[03:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: What's the plan re: minimal install?
[03:43] <wxl> tsimonq2: well, it looks like we didn't use it, so you tell me
[03:44] <tsimonq2> wxl: It was in our seed.
[03:44] <tsimonq2> But yet again, our seed was (in an unorthodox way) split in half.
[03:44] <wxl> we should have made a testcase for it
[03:44] <tsimonq2> OH.
[03:44] <tsimonq2> That's a good idea.
[03:45] <tsimonq2> wxl: Do you want to take this on?
[03:45] <tsimonq2> Otherwise I can in the next day or two.
[03:46] <wxl> tsimonq2: i can add the testcase if you can fix it
[03:46] <tsimonq2> wxl: We have to write one, no?
[03:47] <wxl> tsimonq2: that's easy, but it's pointless having it if we don't have something that will actually cause the test to succeed
[03:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: Ah.
[03:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'm willing to put money that it's our irregular seed. :P
[03:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: But, perhaps Steve, Adam, or someone can help tomorrow.
[03:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: Because it's not actually a thing with the ISO as much as it is that list being cowboyed onto the system then Ubiquity reading it.
[03:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: So if it's not our seed, it's Ubiquity, although the two are probably closely related.
[03:54] <tsimonq2> wxl: This is also interesting; Rik linked it here earlier: https://twitter.com/quidsup/status/992835882632863744
[03:55] <wxl> tsimonq2: fwiw i don't see that same error but yeah it's got all the apps
[03:55] <wxl> XD
[03:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: You and your *three* irssi windows. :P
[03:56] <wxl> the other problem we kind of face is the fact that we have always had a minimal install with lubuntu-core
[03:56] <tsimonq2> #ubuntu-release is on 10, #lubuntu-devel is on 4 for me. Come on. :P
[03:56] <tsimonq2> And, right.
[03:56] <tsimonq2> So, the end goal for this is to have stacked squashfses.
[03:56] <wxl> oh?
[03:56] <wxl> huh
[03:57] <wxl> maybe we should disctonue the minimal install documentation or rename it to something else (core instead of minimal?)
[03:57] <tsimonq2> So one core squashfs, and if the user /doesn't/ choose the minimal install, the big squashfs will follow.
[03:57] <tsimonq2> Oh.
[03:57] <tsimonq2> Yeah, that's a thing.
[03:57] <tsimonq2> I'd double-check with others, but ideally, yeah, that should be redone.
[03:57] <tsimonq2> I mean, it still is a "mini ISO" though.
[03:58] <tsimonq2> wxl: If I were you though, interestingly enough, I'd ask the Desktop Team.
[03:59] <wxl> what do you mean?
[03:59] <tsimonq2> They "wrote" the "feature".
[03:59] <tsimonq2> Or Foundations.
[03:59] <tsimonq2> Perhaps it didn't occur to them that the naming is ambiguous.
[04:00] <tsimonq2> Also, I'm postponing the newsletter by a day. Unless you want to crank it out wxl, I don't have the energy for that kind of typing tonight.
[04:01] <wxl> no i'm not into doing that
[04:01] <tsimonq2> OK.
[04:01] <wxl> but i think we should just change our minimal info to core
[04:01] <tsimonq2> No problem.
[04:01] <wxl> no reason to ask
[04:01] <wxl> it is what it is
[04:01] <tsimonq2> Then JFDI.
[04:08] <wxl> tsimonq2: there's also more stuff that should probably be removed.. and i'm not sure we should necessarily remove gnome-software
[04:08] <wxl> also we seem to have both synaptic and gnome-software..
[04:08] <tsimonq2> wxl: OK.
[04:09] <wxl> if we remove system tools (we're removing lxtask, hard info, usb-creator-gtk) there's an even bigger list
[04:12] <wxl> obvious things: audacious, galculator, gnome-mpv, leafpad, simple-scan
[04:14] <wxl> i really don't thnk we should remove any system tools, honestly. certainly not any lx ones.
[04:14] <tsimonq2> OK.
[04:15] <wxl> core should be for the people that really want NOTHING
[04:15] <wxl> i mean relative to desktop, core is lacking things like acpi-support, ca-certificates (really
[04:15] <wxl> ?)
[04:15] <wxl> ffmpegthumbnailer, gvfs
[04:16] <wxl> memtest86+
[04:16] <wxl> network-manager-gnome
[04:16] <wxl> etc. 
[04:16] <wxl> i.e. no one really wants core XD
[05:28] <wxl> tsimonq2: are dailies now lxqt?
[05:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: There's still one more PR that needs merging, but they /should/ be.
[05:28] <wxl> those two clauses seem contradictory XD
[05:29] <tsimonq2> tl;dr figure it out. :P
[15:48] <wxl> here's a wee packaging task we can work on, tsimonq2. i don't even think i remember what to do anymore so could you hold my hand? :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/1769438
 @wxl, Assign the bug to yourself.
 That's the gist.
[15:53] <wxl> then upload the dsc?
[15:54] <wxl> (to a ppa)
 No
 Then give me the patch produced by debdiff
[15:59] <wxl> don't want me to put it in the bug?
 Yeah, so pipe that debdiff to a patch file and attach it to the bug.
[16:48] <wxl> @VikingRedwolf can you look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1760688 please?
 Just Box Things ™
[16:49] <wxl> ?
 @VikingRedwolf That's what you get for writing your own theme and then shipping it in an LTS but then deprecating it right after the LTS. 😐🙃
 How's it coming wxl?
[17:11] <wxl> not there yet @tsimonq2. will do it tonight most likely
 @wxl, OK.
 @tsimonq2, You know that theme is actually Radiance?
 @wxl, I will
[17:23] <wxl> thank you wulfie
 And let me remind you that I planned the switch to the new theme for 18.04
[18:30] <wxl> we going to get a link to the installer on the desktop, @tsimonq2?
[18:32] <wxl> aw bummer. installer fails right out of the gate on "unpackfs"
[18:32] <wxl> also didn't see a download updates option
[18:33] <wxl> and of course it doesn't have the minimal installer..
[18:34] <wxl> ... and i can't install ubiquity
[18:35] <wxl> !ru
[18:48] <wxl> tried removing language packs and fonts and still not enough room for ubiquity