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ubptgbot<Sumeet Kumar> Question: Why am i unable to install stuff from terminal like irssi for example on UT00:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> you aren't doing it inside a chroot or libertine00:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> the rootfs is readonly because phones are not PCs00:39
ubptgbotcahyonoabdullah was added by: cahyonoabdullah00:55
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/2bRGtUcU.png05:33
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> unity8 on teh desktop is working again05:35
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> Neat!05:35
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> I'm assuming that's bionic?05:35
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> yep05:35
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> with mir 0.31.205:36
ubptgbot<DanChapman> nice!05:36
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> Ah, is that with the workaround in issue #22 for the desktop install tools?05:38
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> nope, it's with another workaround05:39
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> oh?05:39
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> sudo chown -R $USER /dev/input … $ QML_BAD_GUI_RENDER_LOOP=1 QT_QPA_PLATFORM=mirserver unity805:43
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> hit refresh on #22  issue05:44
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> i followed this work arround05:44
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1039/18-04-desktop-getting-it-working-again05:44
ubptgbot<damaged_i> Hı all … Is thıs panel also for troubleshootıng?07:19
ubptgbot<Flohack> Sure. Shhot!07:24
ubptgbot<Flohack> [Edit] Sure. Shoot!07:24
ubptgbot<damaged_i> I made a lot of use of shutter … Sınce upgradıng to 18, ıt wont work … Is there a fıx, or do ı have to waıt a bıt?07:45
ubptgbot<Flohack> @damaged_i, Are you talking about the phone or the desktopn07:46
ubptgbot<damaged_i> Desktop actually … I understood that thıs was for unıty ın general07:47
ubptgbot<DanChapman> This group is about Ubuntu Touch you would be better off asking in #ubuntu on freenode irc or on askubuntu.com for desktop related questions. We don't really have anything to do with that here07:49
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> @popescu_sorin, Please add a progress note on the forum: https://forums.ubports.com/category/36/unity8 (it's easier for folks to find than scrollback)08:25
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome @cahyonoabdullah !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome09:30
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> @alan_griffiths, done :D09:39
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ubptgbot<Waldbursche> Hi, is there any option, to  get carddav implementation from the UT Interface to use with webdav on my homeserver?12:20
ubptgbot<YougoChats> So I installed UT 16.04 on my Bq m10 out of curiosity. Found libertine is broken? But anbox works👍12:31
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Then went back to 15.04 and found libertine works but anbox doesnt(I knew that).12:32
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Does one of these combinations almost work (either anbox on 15.04 or  preferably libertine on 16.04) or are they both thoroughly broken?12:33
ubptgbot<Flohack> Libertine will be fixed for 16.04 yes13:43
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Flohack I always read your ending 'yes' as 'ja' 😋14:44
ubptgbot<Flohack> hehe14:45
ubptgbot<dohbee> @YougoChats, anbox will not be added to any 15.04 devices at all, as i understand14:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> @YougoChats, If you create a new libertine container based on 16.04 does it work? Your 15.04 container probably isn't working because it's 15.04.14:55
ubptgbot<dohbee> or is your issue just the scope not working?14:56
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Well the container-manager app has no install candidate, which i kind of expected, but also indeed the desktop apps scope was empty, even though apps were reported as installed successfully. I switched back to 15.04 and the scope showed apps, but they wouldn’t start. Then I installed the manager app, removed the container and cre15:49
ubptgbotated a new container and things started to work15:49
ubptgbot<YougoChats> [Edit] Well the container-manager app has no install candidate for 16.04, which i kind of expected, but also indeed the desktop apps scope was empty, even though apps were reported as installed successfully. I switched back to 15.04 and the scope showed apps, but they wouldn’t start. Then I installed the manager app, removed the15:56
ubptgbotcontainer and created a new container and things started to work15:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> the scope doesn't work in 16.04 because it's compiled against 15.04 libs, so it just fails to run (and so you get no results in the UI) (yes, this is known to not be good UI, but it never got fixed)16:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> you should be able to create a 16.04 container under 16.04 though16:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> maybe there's an issue where things break if you've already got a 15.04 container though?16:15
ubptgbot<YougoChats> I think the container was created fine. Just the scope that was broken. After I switched back to 15.04, I guess I had a 16.04 container on 15.04, which also wouldn’t work? Hence the solution to wipe the container and make a new one.16:37
ubptgbot<YougoChats> I guess the only thing really broken then is the scope, which needs to be rebuilt along with all the other user facing GUI stuff16:38
ubptgbot<YougoChats> For which I saw a guide swoop by this morning16:39
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Do I understand it right that scopes aren’t going to be a focus for ubports in the long run?16:40
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Unity 8 eventually getting its own dash and all.16:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> the plan is to remove scopes, as i understand16:45
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't think the app drawer unity8 is in the 16.04 images though16:46
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> No, not yet16:46
ubptgbot<YougoChats> No it isn’t.16:46
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Not yet sounds good16:46
ubptgbot<YougoChats> Was the source code secured? It floated in some silo last time I heard16:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> the app drawer was already in trunk16:49
ubptgbot<dohbee> but it's incomplete16:49
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ubptgbot<gostranger> can any one help me?18:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> with what?18:10
ubptgbot<gostranger> i will pm you18:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> please ask your question in the group18:11
ubptgbot<gostranger> its little embaressing!!18:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> it is something to do with UT right?18:12
ubptgbot<Flohack> Doesnt matter. tell us18:12
ubptgbot<gostranger> Yees18:12
ubptgbot<gostranger> i want to contribute, but seriouslly i dont know where to start!!!18:12
ubptgbot<Flohack> What are your skills18:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> well, surely you have an idea of what type of contribution you'd like to make, no?18:13
ubptgbot<gostranger> yes development18:13
ubptgbot<gostranger> i am an engineering student18:13
ubptgbot<gostranger> but i want to learn18:13
ubptgbot<gostranger> consider me as a novice18:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> my suggestion is to find an issue you want to solve for yourself18:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> contributing for the sake of contribution will likely not help either yourself or the project you're trying to contribute to18:15
ubptgbot<gostranger> not for the sake of contribution18:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> unless that contribution is a monetary donation perhaps18:15
ubptgbot<gostranger> i want to learn how it works18:16
ubptgbot<gostranger> and contribute to it so it grows18:17
ubptgbot<Flohack> What skill sdo you have in terms of programming?18:17
ubptgbot<gostranger> i am a big fan of linux and particular in ubuntu distro18:17
ubptgbot<gostranger> cpp & python18:17
ubptgbot<gostranger> java basics18:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> still that is extremely vague18:18
ubptgbot<gostranger> cause i am still learning18:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> you'll need something more specific. otherwise the only real answer is "read the source"18:19
ubptgbot<gostranger> specific for example?18:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> i mean "i want to learn how it works" is very vague. what it?18:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> there are thousands of it pieces that make up an entire useful system18:20
ubptgbot<Flohack> Plus in our special case a lot of packages are not even maintained by ourselves 😆18:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> well that's true even for a full distro18:21
ubptgbot<Flohack> thats it, So asking for how "Ubuntu" works would be the same aimless effort18:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> how deep the rabbit hole does go18:22
ubptgbot<gostranger> i think i am standing outside the hole18:23
ubptgbot<gostranger> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/CQkbwpb0.webp18:23
ubptgbot<advocatux> @gostranger take a look at "good first issues" and see if you can help with that … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/labels/good%20first%20issue18:31
ubptgbot<gostranger> ok18:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> @gostranger, Do you have a device running UT, or unity 8 running in on ubuntu 16.04 on x86 in a VM?18:46
ubptgbot<gostranger> i am using ubuntu 16.04 as my default desktop!!!18:46
ubptgbot<gostranger> i dont use windows18:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> ok, but that is very different from the UT/phone stack, or unity818:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> or are you asking about contributing more generally to ubuntu itself, rather than to ubports/UT?18:48
ubptgbot<gostranger> no18:48
ubptgbot<gostranger> ubports/UT18:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> do you have any of the supported devices?18:51
ubptgbot<gostranger> No18:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> does your CPU support virtualization?18:52
ubptgbot<gostranger> yes18:56
ubptgbot<gostranger> it supports18:56
ubptgbot<gostranger> supports vmx18:56
ubptgbotVelichin was added by: Velichin18:56
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Velichin, Hi Stanislav, welcome. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started18:57
ubptgbot<Velichin> 👍🏻18:58
ubptgbot<advocatux> How is it going the combat against alien invaders? Are we winning?18:59
ubptgbot<advocatux> [Edit] How is the combat going against alien invaders? Are we winning?19:01
ubptgbot<jonny> @gostranger maybe starting with developing an app would be easier and already help you to understand some things about Ubuntu Touch. But honestly I doubt you will get very far with your ambitions without using Ubuntu Touch yourself. Or at least using Unity8 in a VM.19:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> @gostranger, ok. then first thing i would suggest you do is to install ubuntu 16.04 in a vm, and then install the unity8 stack in that, so you can use it a bit there19:03
ubptgbot<gostranger> ok19:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> then maybe you can find something more specific that you'd like to work on19:06
ubptgbot<gostranger> cool19:07
ubptgbot<gostranger> i will message you after setting it up!!19:08
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Polling the chat: was there ever a problem logged in Mir or QtMir with phantom touches or touches way off from their actual point? While troubleshooting an issue with the keyboard dismissing itself, I've found that we get touch end points that are +/-500 pixels from their physical end20:08
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Sometimes off the bottom of the screen, which is 100% impossible20:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't recall20:09
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> @UniversalSuperBox, @anpok would be the one to asj20:16
ubptgbot<Myrdynsheppard> Is there a dual boot software from ubports or just the single boot installer?20:44
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Myrdynsheppard, dual boot is not supported20:44
ubptgbot<Myrdynsheppard> Is it possible for ubports to use this as reference and create a dual boot installer? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/ubuntu-touch-android-dual-boot-preview-released20:46
ubptgbot<Eida2018> I still have problems with rar archives in Ubuntu Phone.Any help?20:46
ubptgbot<K31j0> @Myrdynsheppard, Not happening20:46
ubptgbot<K31j0> multirom support requires custom buildscripts20:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Eida2018, please elaborate on what 'problems' you are having20:47
ubptgbotRobin algo was added by: Kev20:47
ubptgbot<Eida2018> i dont know to open rar archives in my phone20:47
ubptgbot<Eida2018> I can not to do:unrar x -ppassword like in Gnu/Linux20:49
ubptgbot<Myrdynsheppard> Is ubports ever going to do work with Samsung Devices or are samsung devices a waste of time?20:49
ubptgbot<K31j0> @Myrdynsheppard, They're more troublesome to port, but might work, there was some S7 shown working20:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Eida2018, You need to create a libertine container and install unrar in it, then you can run unrar inside that container20:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> it has nothing to do with "gnu/linux". UT is still gnu/linux20:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's just with a readonly root filesystem20:51
ubptgbot<Eida2018> Ok,thank you20:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Myrdynsheppard, There are people working on ports20:51
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Myrdynsheppard, i am working on a Samsung Galaxy S8+ port :P20:52
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ubptgbot<Myrdynsheppard> @vanyasem Won't that be easy since its sorta been done for the Samsung Dex System?20:54
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Myrdynsheppard, it's not related at all20:54
ubptgbot<vanyasem> it's super complicated and hard20:54
ubptgbotOwnCreatorStudio was added by: OwnCreatorStudio20:57
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @OwnCreatorStudio, Welcome Артур :D20:58
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @OwnCreatorStudio, [Edit] Welcome, Артур :D20:58
ubptgbot<vanyasem> Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get started20:58
ubptgbot<OwnCreatorStudio> Hi! How I can help you and join your team? I'm a UX/UI designer20:58
ubptgbot<vanyasem> also be sure to check out @ubports_ru20:58
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @OwnCreatorStudio, dispatching @UniversalSuperBox20:58
ubptgbot<dohbee> what is it that you wish to dseign?20:59
ubptgbot<OwnCreatorStudio> Interfaces...20:59
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @dohbee, btw my mother has mistaken UBports for iOS today20:59
ubptgbot<gostranger> @dohbee  i am getting error21:00
ubptgbot<vanyasem> i decided to gift her a Nexus 5 :P she has an iPhone now21:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> heh21:00
ubptgbot<gostranger> the following packages have unment dependencies21:00
ubptgbot<gostranger> qtmir-desktop21:00
ubptgbot<K31j0> i want to buy N5 with ubuntu or sfos for my grandma as well >~>21:00
ubptgbot<gostranger> qtubuntu-appmenutheme21:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> @OwnCreatorStudio, nothing specific?21:00
ubptgbot<gostranger> etc21:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> @gostranger, https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to pastebin your errors21:01
ubptgbot<OwnCreatorStudio> @dohbee, What do you mean?21:01
ubptgbot<gostranger> k21:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> @OwnCreatorStudio, have you used UT at all? Or unity8 shell on a PC?21:01
ubptgbot<OwnCreatorStudio> Unity8 on PC, yes21:02
ubptgbot<OwnCreatorStudio> I have not N5 e.g. yet21:02
ubptgbot<OwnCreatorStudio> To check UT on phone21:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> @OwnCreatorStudio, and are there any specific issues you have with the current design? have you documented them?21:03
ubptgbot<OwnCreatorStudio> Maybe. I'm just looking for job in community. And I believe that we can make more modern UI in Ubuntu Touch. I want to try me in this field21:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> the best way to do that is to find something specific you want to work on, do the work, and submit the changes21:09
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> (Photo, 1920x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/CEzAnxV2.png21:35
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> (Photo, 1920x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/pSLvD5nM.png21:35
ubptgbot<vanyasem> (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/UErs1q0g.png21:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> Zoran what was that for?21:39
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> there was a supplent,420 mb...extra21:41
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> supplement..21:43
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> i got the impression that the bq phone did not go far...21:46
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> do you agree..21:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> I don't understand what you're asked by, sorry.21:51
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ubptgbot<mymike00> @OwnCreatorStudio, You can join the UX group @UBports_UX21:52
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> this version is on 15.04 (3). and is now 15.04 (15) bit. beter...22:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Zoran Aleksic, No, that's the old version from canonical I guess. It is old and unsupported22:24
ubptgbotintoxikated was added by: intoxikated22:31
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome @intoxikated !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed23:02
ubptgbotMax Headroom was added by: Max Headroom23:05
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome Max !!! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome23:07
ubptgbot<Max Headroom> I Hope this is the LG Google Nexus 5 Hammerhead Channel, which is Crippled by me in my Failed attempt 2 Uninstall UbPorts, as a Consequence it's Hanging / Stuck on the Google Splash Screen w/ the Unlocked Padlock icon on a Black background. Currently When I Press the Vol. Down Button While I Press the Power On Button I get the23:15
ubptgbotGreen Robot w/ Power Off or Start or Restart Bootloader or Recovery Mode Options. Choosing the Latter brings up UbPorts Recovery which has the following Options, Reboot System Now or Ubuntu Actions or Android Actions or Reboot to Bootloader or Power Down or View Recovery Logs. if I Go 2 Recovery Logs & Select /cache/recovery/last_log etc it brings23:15
ubptgbotup the Orange UbPorts installing update logo / message, But this is just a Parked Up - False Alarm!...23:15
ubptgbot<samzn> @popescu_sorin, tdesktop seems to run fine on mir23:16
ubptgbot<Tedster> @Max Headroom, it's not specifically that, but you're likely close enough23:16
ubptgbot<samzn> or is it the wayland layer of mir now23:16
ubptgbot<Max Headroom> Please Help Me Out of This Nitemare, ideally I'd like 2 get Lineage on this or TWRP or CWM Recovery...23:17
ubptgbot<Max Headroom> I've installed The Magic Device Tool & it Looks like a Great Tool, But because I'd installed UbPorts 15.04 My LG Google Nexus 5 Hammerhead it has UbPorts BootLoader instead of FastBoot, which is what the Magic Device Tool is Looking for or eXpecting, so Consequently the Magic Device Tools returns Device Not found when I attempt23:17
ubptgbot 2 install Ubuntu, OpenStore, Lineage, Maru OS, Sailfish, Factory image, TWRP Recovery, Back Up, Lock / UnLock, Anything!23:17
ubptgbot<samzn> it doesnt have ubports bootloader23:18
ubptgbot<samzn> it still has fastboot23:18
ubptgbot<samzn> the green android is fastboot23:18
ubptgbot<Max Headroom> Oh Yea' Doh!23:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> If you want lineage follow the instructions to flash from bootloader23:28
ubptgbot<Max Headroom> whY won't the Magic Device Tool work Now? & I've SumHow Lost the Webpage Link!...23:30
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Magic Device Tool is mostly abandoned at this point. Follow the instructions on the LineageOS wiki and join their support channels for more help.23:38
ubptgbot<Max Headroom> Thanx All 4 your Help 😃K23:40

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