| oerheks | Cosmic Chihuahua | 01:40 |
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| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 04:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Hai. | 04:24 |
| lotuspsychje | hey tsimonq2 | 04:24 |
| krytarik | Hy! | 04:24 |
| lotuspsychje | hey krytarik | 04:24 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:06 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:18 |
| lordievader | Hey ducasse | 06:19 |
| lordievader | How are you doing? | 06:20 |
| ducasse | i'm good, thanks - how about you, lordievader? | 06:20 |
| lordievader | Doing good here :) | 06:20 |
| lotuspsychje_ | morning lordievader ducasse | 06:45 |
| lordievader | Hey lotuspsychje_ How are you doing? | 06:50 |
| lotuspsychje_ | fine tnx lordievader | 06:54 |
| lotuspsychje_ | enjoyed a very sunny weekend | 06:54 |
| lordievader | Yes, was very nice weather 😁 | 06:55 |
| ducasse | morning lotuspsychje_ - all going well? | 06:58 |
| lotuspsychje_ | yeah tnx ducasse and you? | 06:58 |
| ducasse | all good here, quiet morning | 07:00 |
| lotuspsychje_ | great :p | 07:03 |
| lotuspsychje_ | bbl worktime | 08:11 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 10:18 |
| LtWorf | hey BluesKaj | 10:37 |
| BluesKaj | Hi LtWorf | 10:38 |
| LtWorf | there is a blues band here called folks | 10:38 |
| BluesKaj | really? | 10:38 |
| LtWorf | yeah | 10:38 |
| LtWorf | stupid choice of course | 10:39 |
| LtWorf | can't find a single hit on google :D | 10:39 |
| LtWorf | since it's a common word in swedish too | 10:39 |
| BluesKaj | lots of bands aren't found on google | 10:40 |
| LtWorf | well https://billetto.se/en/e/the-howling-owl-releasefest-folks-the-abyss-tickets-278353 | 10:41 |
| LtWorf | u can buy tickets for the next gig :D | 10:41 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, my family language was Swedish...after a few yrs it became English after emigrating to Canada | 10:41 |
| LtWorf | BluesKaj: i guessed, i have a friend here who moved here from USA, named Kaj. He did because he is a swedish citizen even though he had never lived here. And here he could study for free | 10:42 |
| BluesKaj | from Finland...family is Swedish- Finn | 10:42 |
| LtWorf | hehe like linus torvalds | 10:42 |
| BluesKaj | yup | 10:43 |
| LtWorf | italy gives citizenship if you have 1 italian grandparent | 10:43 |
| LtWorf | some brazilians get it to come to study/live in europe | 10:43 |
| EriC^^ | i make a mean pizza, i want citizenship! | 10:45 |
| LtWorf | hehehehehe, once i met a swedish guy claiming that only in naples they are capable of producing proper pizza | 10:46 |
| lordievader | Do they ship from Naples to here? | 10:48 |
| LtWorf | i don't know where here is | 10:48 |
| LtWorf | i'm italian btw, living in sweden | 10:48 |
| lordievader | Holland. | 10:48 |
| LtWorf | i would imagine it might be a bit cold and soggy by the time it reaches | 10:50 |
| BluesKaj | I feel for those guys who don't investigate before buying an Optimus equipped laptop | 10:51 |
| lordievader | Hmm, yes... How about express-express delivery? 😋 | 10:51 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: If you want a bit of performance you quickly end up with such a dual-video card setup... unfortunately. | 10:52 |
| JanC | I'm sure there are good pizza places in The Netherlands | 10:53 |
| BluesKaj | laptops aren't meant for video performance IMO | 10:53 |
| JanC | and obviously they only make Napoli-style pizzas in Napoli | 10:54 |
| JanC | I'm pretty sure Sicilian style pizzas are best in Sicily, etc. ;) | 10:56 |
| lordievader | JanC: There are. But now I'm curious as to how good those Naples ones are 😉 | 10:57 |
| LtWorf | JanC: pizza siciliana is deep fried and enclosed like calzone, but with different dough, i don't know why they call it pizza at all :D | 10:59 |
| JanC | because it's pizza | 11:00 |
| LtWorf | http://blog.giallozafferano.it/passioneperilcibo/la-siciliana/ | 11:00 |
| LtWorf | or, it can also be a regular pizza with capers and anchovies on top | 11:01 |
| LtWorf | going to eat, btw :D | 11:02 |
| LtWorf | i went to eat and it became silent… | 13:05 |
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| BluesKaj | yeah, just finished an onion, mushroom and cheese omelette with toasted multi grain bread | 13:44 |
| JimBuntu | GM BluesKaj ... and NOM NOM NOM | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning JimBuntu, still teaching myself how to cook tho | 13:56 |
| BluesKaj | omelettes are easy ...been doing them for a while now | 13:57 |
| JimBuntu | Ever tried cloud eggs? | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | not familiar with that term | 13:58 |
| JimBuntu | crack your eggs, isolate whites from yolks. Whip the whites for a few minutes on low with mixer. Put some dollops of the whites on bread as though they were mashed potatoes. | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | ok , googled, looks good | 14:00 |
| JimBuntu | yeah, google will answer faster than I can, lol | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | dunno how good I would be at yolk separation | 14:03 |
| JimBuntu | It is pretty easy and there are "hacks" for ways to do it with things like a plastic water bottle... using it as a suction-bulb. I simply cradle the yolk in my hand and change the gap sizes between my fingers until that white+gravity pull it all off the yalk | 14:05 |
| LtWorf | JimBuntu: i use the egg shell itself to do it | 14:06 |
| JimBuntu | That's another way, especially if you don't want to waste the egg that sticks to your hands. | 14:06 |
| EriC^^ | i usually put it in a glass, then remove the yolk with a spoon | 14:12 |
| lotuspsychje | good evening to all | 17:03 |
| kostkon | gOoD eVeNiNg SiR | 17:03 |
| lotuspsychje | hey kostkon | 17:04 |
| kostkon | ħey | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | hey krytarik | 17:10 |
| krytarik | Howdy! | 17:10 |
| ducasse | evening all | 17:11 |
| ducasse | heyup, lotuspsychje | 17:11 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse how was your day :p | 17:11 |
| lotuspsychje | 30 degrees in belgium...why o why did i have to work :p | 17:12 |
| ducasse | great day here, did some housework and took a nap :) | 17:13 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: sound great :p | 17:18 |
| lotuspsychje | !info limnoria | SlidingHorn | 17:24 |
| ubot5 | SlidingHorn: limnoria (source: limnoria): robust and user-friendly Python IRC bot. In component universe, is optional. Version 2017.08.18-1 (artful), package size 553 kB, installed size 4364 kB | 17:24 |
| Squarism | how do I upgrade from ubuntu 17.04 to 18.04? | 17:57 |
| ducasse | !eolupgrade | 17:58 |
| ubot5 | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:58 |
| ducasse | but support is in #ubuntu | 17:59 |
| lotuspsychje | aha !usn has changed to https | 18:29 |
| Squarism | generally speaking, what are the most common type of bugs for a new LTS release? Driver problems or just ubuntu/linux core functionality? | 20:06 |
| daftykins | in server edition, a new installer is being developed - and that has many issues right now | 20:07 |
| Squarism | when did the unity -> gnome switch happen? I mean in what release | 20:08 |
| wirehunter | Squarism, I think the LTS releases are not really new releases. Like: | 20:08 |
| daftykins | unity has always been gnome based technically | 20:08 |
| wirehunter | 18.04 is not LTS yet, that will be 18.04.1 right? | 20:08 |
| daftykins | wrong | 20:08 |
| xangua | wirehunter: it is | 20:08 |
| daftykins | it's LTS from the outset, once it hits the first point release - direct upgrades from 16.04.x will be enabled | 20:09 |
| daftykins | that's how it usually works | 20:09 |
| wirehunter | Ah, okay | 20:09 |
| oerheks | the .1 release triggers the global upgrade | 20:09 |
| oerheks | so yes, current 18.04 users are beta testers :-D | 20:10 |
| Squarism | It sure sounds like that | 20:11 |
| oerheks | i am still on 17.10, seeding | 20:12 |
| xangua | 16.04/unity for ever 🤘 | 20:12 |
| wirehunter | I never liked Unity | 20:12 |
| Squarism | wish me luck. Upgrade from EOL 17.04->17.10 completed apart from restart. Now i just hope machine will come back up. | 20:12 |
| wirehunter | I was a ubuntu-gnome user :) | 20:12 |
| xangua | Or at least some more years | 20:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | Unity to Gnome switch started in 17.10 I believe | 20:13 |
| xangua | I was a gnome 2 user | 20:13 |
| wirehunter | I used to be one too | 20:13 |
| wirehunter | Before I switched to mac for a while :p | 20:13 |
| Squarism | *I survived!* | 20:14 |
| * pragmaticenigma hands Squarism a t-shirt | 20:15 | |
| wirehunter | Squarism, Even your Xorg started again? | 20:15 |
| daftykins | now upgrade again (: | 20:15 |
| oerheks | started @ KDE .. | 20:15 |
| JimBuntu | !cookie | Squarism | 20:15 |
| ubot5 | Squarism: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 20:15 |
| wirehunter | My X server didn't start after upgrading to 18.04 | 20:16 |
| wirehunter | Always something | 20:17 |
| Squarism | wirehunter, how do i tell? "ps auxf | grep Xorg" shows nothing | 20:19 |
| Squarism | JimBuntu, pragmaticenigma - thanks. Its really ducasse who deserves credit though | 20:19 |
| Squarism | must say i like gnome better than unity | 20:20 |
| JimBuntu | Squarism, but I have ducasse on a treat diet... do you know how many cookies they would get?! It would be a lot :-D | 20:20 |
| daftykins | xD | 20:21 |
| wirehunter | Squarism, Basically, if you can log into your desktop, your x server is running fine. | 20:21 |
| JimBuntu | I would expect your command to have returned that there was an Xorg running though... | 20:21 |
| wirehunter | Squarism, My login shell didn't load and could only go into a tty to fix things :) | 20:21 |
| wirehunter | Or you're on Wayland? | 20:23 |
| Squarism | wirehunter, i dont think so. Just logged in wo configuring anything | 20:23 |
| Squarism | hmmm.. | 20:24 |
| Squarism | gdm 1146 0.0 0.0 194856 5508 tty1 Ssl+ 22:13 0:00 | \_ /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session gnome-session --autostart /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart | 20:24 |
| Squarism | gdm 1233 0.0 0.1 566536 52584 tty1 Sl+ 22:13 0:00 | | \_ /usr/bin/Xwayland :1024 -rootless -terminate -core -listen 4 -listen 5 -displayfd 6 | 20:24 |
| Squarism | maybe i am? | 20:24 |
| wirehunter | Squarism, You don't really have to. You can switch from the login-shell using the gear icon | 20:24 |
| Squarism | does above imply im on wayland? | 20:25 |
| wirehunter | I think so | 20:25 |
| wirehunter | Ah apparently 17.10 defaults to Wayland | 20:26 |
| wirehunter | Forgot about that | 20:26 |
| Squarism | so is it recommended to run wayland? | 20:27 |
| Squarism | thought it was in a very beta state | 20:27 |
| wirehunter | It's missing a lot of features that you might not be using | 20:27 |
| oerheks | depends, on your GPU mostly | 20:28 |
| Squarism | oerheks, in what way? Does it require more of the GPU? | 20:29 |
| oerheks | Fedora runs it for years now, since 2015 | 20:29 |
| wirehunter | I had to switch back to xorg to do stuff like screen capture | 20:30 |
| oerheks | no, depending on open drivers, openradeon/ open AMDgpu are pretty good | 20:30 |
| wirehunter | I couldn't add screen resolutions for my ultra wide screen monitor | 20:30 |
| oerheks | downside are some tools that do not work well @ wayland, synaptic for example | 20:31 |
| Squarism | oerheks, hmm that feels kind of imporant | 20:32 |
| Squarism | important | 20:32 |
| oerheks | i would like to see that integrated in softwarecenter, metapackage <> detailed view | 20:32 |
| Squarism | oerheks, you mean the UI isnt working properly or that "apt" command? | 20:33 |
| oerheks | UI | 20:34 |
| oerheks | there is a trick to get around, but i refuse to do that. maybe this si fixed in 18.04 now.. | 20:34 |
| oerheks | 17.10 not | 20:34 |
| Squarism | i mostly use apt so i hope ill manage | 20:35 |
| Squarism | So what features should one check out? New window manager, new xserver | 20:36 |
| oerheks | "Wayland does not allow gui applications to run in superuser mode like Synaptic." http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2017/10/ubuntu-17-10-tip-graphical-apps-doesnt-launch-via-root-sudo-gksu/ | 20:36 |
| Squarism | what can i do that i couldnt do before? | 20:36 |
| Squarism | ah ok | 20:36 |
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| Squarism | damn, 17.10 with pop theme. Im in love. Ubuntu has never looked this awsome | 21:05 |
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| nacc | Squarism: ... you do know you need to upgrade in hte next few months, right? | 21:07 |
| Squarism | nacc, im gonna wait for 18.04.1 i think. Dont wanna be some beta tester =D | 21:08 |
| daftykins | given the OS you use, you always will be ;) | 21:09 |
| nacc | Squarism: no, 17.10 goes EOL in July | 21:09 |
| nacc | Squarism: so it doesn't really make sense (to me) to fall in love with something you have to upgrade :) | 21:26 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:28 |
| Bashing-om | sneak peek for UWN : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2391254 . Publishing now . | 21:55 |
| Squarism | nacc, well I assume i wont get less in 18.04. Its not like we are backgrading to ubuntu 12.10 right | 22:13 |
| nacc | Squarism: you are using wayland, right? | 22:28 |
| nacc | default is not wayland in 18.04 | 22:28 |
| nacc | that will be 'less' | 22:28 |
| nacc | hence my point :) | 22:28 |
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