[07:46] <Ocean22> Hi guys. Just installed ubuntu 18.04 and find that image scan for linux is not identifying my epson printer anymore. It worked fine on earlier versions of ubuntu. Did a bit of googling but no much help. it says sane change has brken soem thrid party scanner drivers on launchpad. Can  some one guide me in the right directions. thanks
[08:28] <AuroraAvenue> Ocean22 found this for epson V200, perhaps it shall halp ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3PD1zY0aZ0
[08:36] <AuroraAvenue> but I believe you have posted this before .
[08:36] <AuroraAvenue> you could also try VueScan. (which sorts out all driver issues)
[08:36] <AuroraAvenue> https://rockynook.com/shop/photography/the-vuescan-bible/
[08:41] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:54] <zmoylan-pi> o/
[08:58] <brobostigon> o/
[12:38] <DJones> Ugh, hexchat installed by snap is so badly broken
[12:39] <DJones> can't download any files, no permissions etc.  If thats the average standard for snap installs, it needs to go
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> how big is it as a snap versus native installation?
[12:40] <DJones> No idea, I hadn't realised it was a snap install, ubuntu software doesn't seem to give a clue when installing, won't be making that mistake again
[12:41] <zmoylan-pi> install synaptic and use that to get the unsnap version?
[12:41] <DJones> Already done through Ubuntu software
[12:42] <DJones> Just disappointed that "snaps" are hailed as the way forward and the first one I use (by accident) is badly broken
[12:46] <Nafallo> popey: ^-- snappy snap :-)
[12:57] <penguin42> I think the snaps is they're supposed to have some protection to isolate the app - but then you have to explicitly say if you want them to be able to write/download/save stuff
[12:59] <Nafallo> I'd go as far as saying it's not the average standard, as well.
[12:59] <Nafallo> trevino's telegram snap works well out of the box here, including downloads.
[19:34] <daftykins> wow drupal continues to get the RCEs
[19:49] <zleap> hi
[19:49] <zleap> just installing server 18.04 looks rather different installer to 16.04
[19:50] <daftykins> yes subiquity - and it's an absolute mess riddled with bugs
[19:56] <zmoylan-pi> ...an adventure game... :-)
[20:02] <popey> (the old debian installer is still available)
[20:03] <daftykins> via a function key on boot, or some other method?
[20:03] <popey> different iso
[20:03] <daftykins> ah reet, good to know
[20:04] <popey> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[20:04] <popey> "This release uses our new installer, Subiquity. If you require advanced networking and storage features, such as RAID and LVM, please use the traditional installer found on the alternative downloads page."
[20:04]  * daftykins doesn't tend to use the main site to get images
[20:05] <daftykins> you'd be pleased though, this time i even contributed to bugs! ;)
[20:05] <daftykins> but then i saw too many and stopped ;x
[20:05] <popey> \o/ bugs ftw
[20:05] <daftykins> couple of examples were that if a disk wasn't already blank, subiquity failed - aaaand some settings it just plain wasn't applying to the install
[20:06] <daftykins> s/some/most/
[20:10] <brobostigon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1767603 did my bit to identify a pretty bad bug.
[20:13] <daftykins> good ol' broadcom kit ;)
[20:13] <brobostigon> yep.
[20:14] <daftykins> though 4.14 is only wrapped up in older releases now huh? may've changed?
[20:15] <brobostigon> i tried 4.17 and the bug is still there. tried 4.13, not an issue.