[00:11] <kristenbb> hello, i'm using ubuntu 16.04, and the ubuntu launcher doesn't show anymore. I've tried many things on the web, such as apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop and rm -rf ~/.config, but it still doesnt work. any help please?
[00:12] <opiates> hi
[00:23] <p0a> hello
[00:23] <p0a> my free-only install doesn't play music on youtube
[00:23] <p0a> How can I fix that without installing a bundle of non-free stuff?
[00:24] <noway96> hello, I accidentally deleted the first sever MB (< 30 MB) of my disk by writing some data using dd. How do I recover my ubuntu system?
[00:25] <p0a> noway96: I think you should at least know what filesystem you are using
[00:26] <noway96> p0a, it was whatever fs in the default Ubuntu 16.04 install
[00:27] <p0a> noway96: so figure it out
[00:27] <guiverc> p0a, have you tried `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras`  (fyi: it's non-free in the debian sense)
[00:28] <p0a> noway96: https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[00:28] <p0a> guiverc: yeah but it's a bundle
[00:28] <zerabat> useful and essential forensic and recovery software^
[00:28] <p0a> guiverc: I'm wondering if I can just install the relevant bit directly?
[00:29] <zerabat> it doesn't take up much space
[00:29] <p0a> oh well okay
[00:29]  * p0a does it
[00:29] <zerabat> both tools are useful, so why not keeping both?
[00:30] <noway96> yeah I just want my ssh keys from there
[00:31] <zerabat> testdisk saved my life several times with partition table deletion, files accidentally erased, etc...
[00:32] <guiverc> p0a, gstreamer1.0-fluendo-mp3 gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly  and maybe gstreamer1.0-libav (which does video too) - but please note i'm no expert
[00:33] <p0a> guiverc: thank you, still no audio, I'm guessing I forgot the drivers
[00:34] <p0a> `ubuntu-drivers devices' doesn't show up anything
[00:34] <zerabat> guiverc: those are audio codecs to play audio files with certain formats, not audio device drivers
[00:35] <p0a> maybe I'll manually have to figure it out
[00:35] <guiverc> i thought the issue was playing mp3s (ie. codec issue) - sorry
[00:35] <zerabat> what audio device do you have?
[00:35] <zerabat> can you run in a terminal "lspci"?
[00:37] <Mead> does the "system" of a 64 bit ubuntu install use more ram for the system than the "system" of a 32bit ubuntu like a 64 bit windows install uses more ram than 32bit install?
[00:37] <zerabat> or simply lspci | grep "Audio"
[00:37] <zerabat> Mead: I guess yes
[00:38] <Mead> so if I'm gonna run it in a vm with only 1gig of ram, going with a 32bit install would be better?
[00:39] <zerabat> Mead: please add to the VM a few hundred MB more just in case
[00:39] <lapaga> Mead, is that 1g for the vm or 1g total ?
[00:39] <zerabat> It could be to tight due to GNOME
[00:39] <zerabat> if it's another flavour, then 1 GB would be OK
[00:40] <Mead> I'm using "server" without a gui
[00:40] <lapaga> ubuntu with gnome will not run with 1g
[00:40] <zerabat> ^
[00:40] <zerabat> If it's server, I'm not sure, but since it's without a GUI, should be OK
[00:41] <phil42> will not run?  or will not run well?
[00:43] <zerabat> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html
[00:45] <Mead> well I was just wondering if it was worth if there would be an advantage going with a 32bit for ubuntu linux if you have under 4gigs of ram like there is with windows.
[00:47] <zerabat> according to the link above, Ubuntu Server should be OK with 1 GB RAM
[00:51] <Bashing-om> Mead: Keep in mind that 32 bit ISOs are being droped.
[00:51] <zerabat> Is there a 18.04 32 bits version?
[00:52] <zerabat> Anyways... Did anyone try FeralInteractive's Gamemode?
[00:54] <p0a> zerabat: About my Audio device, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[00:54] <p0a>  
[00:56] <Bashing-om> zerabat: One of the 32 bit ISOs : https://xubuntu.org/download availabale here .
[00:57] <eric_lee> zerabat the ubuntu official website have no 32 bits version,but the lubntu,xubuntu,and so on, may continue support
[00:58] <zerabat> p0a: your audio card is certified by ubuntu as capable of working https://certification.ubuntu.com/catalog/component/pci/8086%3A1c20/
[00:58] <zerabat> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1573115
[00:59] <zerabat> in Spanish: https://gutl.jovenclub.cu/solucion-a-problema-con-audio-intel/
[01:04] <zerabat> The post is old, and rely on installing packages alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-utils, and changing a line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf: "options snd-hda-intel model=generic" to "options snd-hda-intel model=auto", but before trying anything... What sound system is used nowadays? ALSA or PulseAudio?
[01:05] <p0a> zerabat: it must be alsa messing things up; I recall many moons ago doing the same thing
[01:06] <p0a> thanks for looking up all that for me
[01:07] <zerabat> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322896&p=13528748#post13528748
[01:09] <zerabat> Did anyone try FeralInteractive's Gamemode?
[01:09] <zerabat> I was waiting for a community maintained repo for it, but as today only Arch and Solus have it in repos, and Debian package seems to be frozen (https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/gamemode).
[01:11] <zerabat> The alternative is to do a manual install, but I don't want it since it's dirtier
[01:21] <Vashy> my ifconfig output doesn't name my interfaces in the standard eth0, wlan0, etc format
[01:21] <Vashy> how can I find out why?
[01:21] <Vashy> enp0s31f6 is my ethernet interface name
[01:21] <bazhang> Vashy, thats a systemd renaming
[01:22] <bazhang> you can go back to the standard previous way iirc
[01:22] <Vashy> I see
[01:22] <Vashy> just found this
[01:22] <Vashy> https://askubuntu.com/questions/704361/why-is-my-network-interface-named-enp0s25-instead-of-eth0#704364
[01:38] <gdi2k> My audio pops from the power save stuff all the time, but the instructions on how to fix it (disable powersave on sound card) no longer apply in 18.04. What is the correct way to do this?
[01:38] <gdi2k> the line options snd-hda-intel power_save no longer exists in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[01:45] <xirg> what's the best way to get files on and off a ubuntu web server?
[01:45] <xirg> do u guys use ftp?
[01:45] <tgm4883> xirg: the best way is <insert your favorite way to do it>
[01:45] <tgm4883> xirg: however, I would urge against FTP since it's insecure
[01:46] <irwiss> it's also slow, scp or ssh mounts are fairly popular
[01:46] <xirg> oh I didn't know ssh mounts were a thing
[01:47] <xirg> i set up a samba file share for another server but that was within a domain on a LAN
[01:47] <xirg> this server is by its lonesome so I can't do samba
[01:48] <xirg> i'll look into the ssh mount
[01:49] <stairway> heh, I just gave up trying to make ubuntu work on my new laptop, so i installed mint
[01:49] <leftyfb> !mint | stairway
[01:51] <etzerd> hello all
[02:04] <vivus> Hello all.
[02:05] <vivus> How do I repair this issue with sudo: sudo: ` no tty present and no askpass program specified` ? searching for an answer yields no results
[02:06] <eric_lee> vivus: vi /etc/sudoers then :abc ALL= NOPASSWD:ALL
[02:07] <vivus> eric_lee: why didn't: `adduser USERNAME sudo` fix it?
[02:07] <leftyfb> vivus: boot with a live cd, mount your root filesystem and undo whatever changes you made to /etc/suoders
[02:15] <jerrysegers> Is there a place where I could learn what options were turned on at compile time Specifically is the joystick option in my QT (bionic mate)
[02:16] <slee> is secure boot recommended or just disable it?
[02:17] <vivus> eric_lee: I tried: `usermod -aG sudo MYUSER` AND I tried your solution and neither worked
[02:20] <irwiss> xirg: you technically can still use samba regardless of which network it's sitting on - just needs a vpn set up, though unless you're using windows i'd say samba is much more hassle than say sshfs
[02:22] <xirg> oh yea i could set up a vpn
[02:22] <vivus> leftyfb: I didn't change anything in /etc/sudoers file
[02:22] <xirg> I use windows... but i'm looking into this sshfs thing
[02:25] <xeth0sx> hey peeps, anyone else having a problem with the typing cursor jumping around on ubuntu 18.04?
[02:26] <xeth0sx> very strange problem but it seems to be rampant on my end lol
[02:27] <slee> jumping around?
[02:27] <xeth0sx> it jumps between apps, between boxes on web pages, etc
[02:27] <slee> ...i just installed 18.04...haven't experiencing anything like that yet
[02:27] <xeth0sx> i can be mid sentence typing
[02:27] <slee> strange
[02:27] <tgm4883> xeth0sx: laptop?
[02:27] <xeth0sx> and the cursor is suddenly in a dfferent place lol
[02:28] <xeth0sx> yes laptop
[02:28] <tgm4883> xeth0sx: Are you hitting your touchpad?
[02:28] <xeth0sx> don't believe so
[02:28] <xeth0sx> but, to check how do i disable touchpad click on ubuntu?
[02:29] <xeth0sx> problem didn't start until i upgraded to 18.04
[02:34] <vivus> don't go disabling hardware if you're already having issues
[02:35] <tgm4883> xeth0sx: I believe in the mouse/touchpad settings there is a "disable while typing" option
[02:36] <phinxy> how great is netplan?
[02:36] <xeth0sx> k it is the tap to click on the touchpad. the heel of my palm is hitting it and the sensitivity seems to much lighter than it used to be
[02:37] <phinxy> I dont know if I like the idea of having yet another config file on top of /network/interfaces
[02:37] <xeth0sx> @tgm4883 looking for that option now
[02:38] <xeth0sx> found it. thx!
[02:39] <xeth0sx> #sucks tobeanoob
[03:11] <Vashy> I have a noob ubuntu/linux question
[03:11] <Vashy> is there a place where the expected output of commands is documented?
[03:11] <Vashy> e.g. if I want to write a parser for `lsusb` or `ifconfig` ?
[03:11] <Vashy> their man pages don't seem to have what I'm looking for
[03:11] <Vashy> I want to know what the expected output should be formatted like
[03:23] <xirg> %m
[03:23] <operator-error> Vashy: you might try "info <command>"
[03:27] <xJeremyCx> on 18.04 I noticed that I dont need the sudo command if Im logged in a root
[03:28] <xJeremyCx> is this intentional or I did something wrong?
[03:29] <krytarik> "logged in as root" → "no need for sudo" → sounds about right...
[03:30] <xJeremyCx> on 16.04 I need sudo for certain commands even if Im root
[03:31] <eric_lee> root can do anything
[03:31] <Guest14202>  The notebook is restarted after I shutdown it.
[03:33] <xJeremyCx> :thinking:
[03:35] <eric_lee> Guest14202:you can try use command 'shutdown -h now' to shutdown the computer
[03:36] <Guest14202> I tryed it. It doesn't work. Also I installed ubuntu to my mother notebook so she don't know about console.
[03:42] <eric_lee> Guest14202:if 'shutdown -h now ' cant work,you can check bios setting
[03:45] <Guest14202> wake on lan is disabled
[03:47] <Guest14202> I found some advice to send "on" to /sys/bus/*/devices/*/power/control
[03:48] <eric_lee> if your notebook dual boot?
[03:48] <Guest14202> no
[03:48] <Guest14202> it's the same problem with last ubuntu, mint, ubuntu-mate
[03:50] <eric_lee> ls -l /sbin/poweroff
[03:51] <eric_lee> reboot or halt
[03:54] <Guest14202> Some guys says it's common problem for acer aspire. Firstly you should turn off a power of all usb/wifi devices and only then shutdown the notebook
[03:54] <ledeni> Guest14202, try to put apci=off in grub and try to shutdown normal
[03:55] <Guest14202> I tryed it. yes, the notebooks is shutdown well, but wifi is not work properly.
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Guest14202: ACPI issues see: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html for your laptop .
[05:16] <eshas> Hi, has ubuntu stopped publishing the root fs tarballs ? I dont find them for bionic
[05:17] <eshas> Is there any plan to publish these or have they been renamed/replaced for bionic?
[05:36] <bgilb> I expanded a virtualbox VDI to add 5GB, rebooted the VM into a ubuntu live cd (16.04), and opened gparted but can't seem to resize the root parition. Any ideas?
[05:42] <bgilb> i'll try the gparted live cd instead
[05:46] <bgilb> yeah that didn't work either.. wtf
[05:46] <guiverc> bgilb, gparted will expand non-mounted partitions easily; if you're having issues its likely because its mounted (in use)
[05:48] <bgilb> theres no lock symbol or anything
[05:49] <bgilb> https://imgur.com/a/O1o2UT5
[05:50] <Flannel> bgilb: You're trying to resize it to what?
[05:51] <bgilb> 6 + 5 so 11
[05:51] <Flannel> Oh, you want to make it bigger?
[05:51] <Flannel> bgilb: So, you can't expand it because sda2 is right next to it.  Luckily, sda2 (and with it sda5) are just swap, so there's no data there.  Which makes it easier.
[05:52] <Flannel> bgilb: You'll need to move sda5 (and sda2) to the end of your disk, which will free up 5GB in the middle (adjacent to sda1), and then you can expand it.
[05:52] <Flannel> bgilb: Another way to do that would be to just remove swap/sda2/sda5, expand sda1, then re-add sda2/sda5
[05:53] <Flannel> bgilb: But since it appears you're using a new-ish version of gparted, you should be able to literally "move" that, instead of having to remove/recreate.
[05:59] <bgilb> thank you! deleting it did the trick
[06:06] <paddy> I've installed zotero by putting it in /opt and then putting the bin into /usr/local/bin. There's a zotero.destop file and I know that desktop files go in /usr/share/applications but what do I do symbolic link, hardlink, cp?
[06:07] <hlion> hello
[06:08] <hlion> nice to meet you
[06:13] <aLeSD_> hi
[06:14] <aLeSD_> how could I remove the shadow of the windows ?
[06:18] <tdn> I have enabled auto updates as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html    however, I want the frequency of updates to be much more frequent. Maybe every 4-6 hours. Because often the machine is only powered on for a short while and thus gets very much behind with updates.
[06:19] <tdn> How do I increase the frequency? Maybe even have it install updates 10 minutes after each bootup
[06:20] <EriC^^> tdn: it should be in some file here /etc/apt/apt.conf.d
[06:23] <maxcell_> can i install older nvidia driver on ubuntu 18.04/ the driver tool only shows the 390 driver.
[06:24] <tdn> EriC^^, if so, I havent been able to find it. I read through the config files in there and read all the comments. It does not appear to be there
[06:31] <maxcell_> hi, i need to install older nvidia prop. driver. Like 380 or 374. The 390 driver aren't working good in my hardware. (tearing and i can't fix already tried). Can i install older drivers, if yes, how/ It doesn't shows on the ubuntu drivers tool. Only shows 390.
[06:32] <EriC^^> tdn: me neither
[06:34] <EriC^^> tdn: maybe it's some cronjob?
[06:34] <soup> are there any ways to get my hardware to run cooler, i am on an old (2012) macbook pro and it just runs abnormally hot in linux, even when under only 2-3% cpu load, disabling the discrete card doesnt do much either
[06:35] <ducasse> tdn: drop a script into /etc/cron.daily, and anacron should pick it up
[06:36] <maxcell_> soup, i think there is an service you can install that allows you to downgrade the CPU Ghz when you it is not fully used
[06:36] <maxcell_> Like Energy saving option
[06:36] <EriC^^> tdn: if you want it run after you boot, you could add a cronjob with @reboot
[06:36] <maxcell_> It is energy saving actually
[06:36] <soup> something like tlp, because it isnt really doing much
[06:37] <maxcell_> downclock
[06:38] <maxcell_> windows has it by default but not on linux. in linux you are using the full capacity everytime. you need to manually install the service that manage that, afaik
[06:38] <soup> something like cpufreq?
[06:38] <maxcell_> exactly
[06:38] <maxcell_> you need that on start-up
[06:38] <soup> i havent really had to deal with this on a laptop, but yeah im not really hurting for processing speed anyway
[06:38] <maxcell_> with systemd
[06:39] <maxcell_> the service i saw long time ago control that, if the kernel demands power, the service let the processor go higher clocks.
[06:40] <soup> i guess it is worth trying, fans going on idle is getting on my nerves
[06:41] <maxcell_> yeah take a look on that info may help you
[06:42] <maxcell_> anyone knows if we can install older nvidia prop. drivers on 18.04/ (default is 390)
[06:42] <Rico> hi
[06:43] <Rico> I have a problem with a network printer, CUPS shows the printer as working, show jobs as completed, but nothing comes out of the printer
[06:45] <maxcell_> nvidia-384/bionic 390.48-0ubuntu3 amd64
[06:45] <maxcell_>   Transitional package for nvidia-driver-390 -> what means Transitional package
[06:45] <eric_lee> maxcell_:you can uninstall the nvidia driver and install the older
[06:45] <maxcell_> this is 384 or 390/ eric_lee
[06:46] <maxcell_> it says 384 but on the description it says "transitional package for nvidia-390"
[06:46] <Flannel> maxcell_: transitional packages are packages that just point to a newer package.
[06:47] <maxcell_> Flannel, so, to have the 384 driver i gotta install this one:
[06:47] <maxcell_> nvidia-375/bionic 384.111-0ubuntu1 amd64
[06:47] <maxcell_>   Transitional package for nvidia-384
[06:47] <Flannel> maxcell_: Their primary purpose is to ease transitions from one version of Ubuntu to another.
[06:47] <maxcell_> understand
[06:48] <maxcell_> so, nvidia-375 = 384
[06:49] <Flannel> maxcell_: nvidia-375 doesn't install anything.  But nvidia-375 will install nvidia-384 for you, which will install 384
[06:49] <maxcell_> but it's saying on apt-get that it will install nvidia-dkms-390 as well
[06:49] <maxcell_> along with nvidida-384
[06:50] <maxcell_> so it will automatically updates to 390/
[06:50] <maxcell_> or not
[06:50] <Flannel> maxcell_: so, it appears that nvidiea-384 is actually a transitional package too, for -390
[06:51] <maxcell_> hmm
[06:51] <maxcell_> i have trouble with 390 driver
[06:51] <maxcell_> screen tearing
[06:55] <swift110> hey all
[06:57] <r15> hello, how do i set hostname in ubuntu18 ? I tried updating /etc/hostname ; using hostnamectl set-hostname NewHostname however changes disappear as soon as reboot the server?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje_> !hostname | r15
[07:00] <r15> lotuspsychje_: That doesn't work, i updated /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts (with old and new hostname) manually, rebooted and server is still pointing to old hostname. I am using 18.04
[07:01] <r15> already applied all the latests updates to the server.
[07:02] <r15> latest*
[07:05] <r15> what could be the issue?
[07:06] <r15> changes to /etc/hostname file disappears as well.
[07:07] <r15> it's working now.
[07:08] <eric_lee> from ubuntu18.04,you can use command 'sudo hostnamectl set-hostname XXXX'
[07:08] <guiverc> r15, try hostnamectl set-hostname
[07:08] <r15> 1) update /etc/hostname with new hostname. 2) update /etc/hosts file with old and new hostname 3) hostnamectl set-hostname NewHostname
[07:08] <r15> guiverc:yes already tried that, it was not persistent
[07:08] <maxcell_> to have access to vulkan api on 18.04 i only need to install mesa-vulkan-drivers/
[07:11] <aLeSD_> is there any long pressed key that will change the behavior of the keyboard ?
[07:20] <soup> well disabling turbo-boost made a pretty big difference
[07:21] <eric_lee> lenovo c200 computer install ubuntu successful ,but not have the video driver, the hardware is 'atom processor'and  'intel GMA 3150 ',if I install the nvidia driver, restart the computer ,the gui is off.
[07:22] <eric_lee> install the intel driver
[07:36] <elichai2>  hey, I have a weird problem.  if I connect my laptop to my Lenovo thunderbolt dock the system almost hangs(I can click CTRL+ALT+F1 and only after 30-40 secs it will open tty) but if I disconnect it goes back in 10 seconds, If I connect and reboot the dock works fine, I have some errors in dmesg but no new ones when I connect and disconnect from the dock, I have this in Xorg.log https://pastebin.com/fL3KwGJx
[07:37] <elichai2>  (these lines gets created every time I plug and unplug the C dock)
[07:37] <elichai2> ideas on what other logs to look at?
[07:41] <auronandace> elichai2: the dock doesn't work when you try to hotplug it but it works fine when booting with it?
[07:43] <elichai2> yeah
[07:44] <elichai2> altough I'm not sure if it's a hot plug issue or it's just works only one time per boot lol, i'll try rebooting wait for it to load and only then connect
[07:44] <auronandace> elichai2: your paste suggests that it can't find a suitable driver but if it works fine from booting there must be something else wrong
[07:48] <elichai2> yeah I just tested and it's not about hot plugging, it just only works once per boot :\
[07:49] <auronandace> elichai2: does the dock have its own graphics card or connects to a monitor?
[07:49] <elichai2> it connects to 2 DP monitors
[07:50] <elichai2> this is the Xorg.0.log now after a boot and the dock works http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3DqhMc43V9/
[07:50] <auronandace> elichai2: that is why you can see modeset in your paste with monitor information
[07:50] <lrb> I'm having troubles with automount on Ubuntu Mate. All of my duplicity backups are on an external disk and now when I try to access them after a fresh install, Caja is telling me I don't have the right permissions to the disk.
[07:51] <lrb> Where can I go to modify the automount permissions?
[07:51] <auronandace> !fstab | lrb
[07:51] <lrb> fstab doesn't manage automount for USB disks, does it?
[07:53] <SlidingHorn> 000000000000000522222222222226666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666660
[07:53] <elichai2> auronandace: ok. how can I debug that?
[07:53] <SlidingHorn> [d[8$
[07:54] <guiverc> lrb, i've used fstab to mount external drives on ubuntu (ext4 fs, up to 16.04 anyway)
[07:55] <lrb> I know there's a config file that manages the default permissions for all automount actions somewhere. I just want to know where it is. fstab is not how automount is managed.
[07:55] <fxnoob> hello, I managed to kill an usb stick, modified it with gparted, now both linux and windows mount it read-only, is any method to fix it? Or I can throw it away? :)
[07:56] <lrb> fxnoob are you familiar with terminal commands at all?
[07:56] <auronandace> elichai2: i'm not too sure sorry. i'm guessing a dock like that isn't designed to be used as a hotplugged device. if it has its own graphics card... usually graphics cards are not hotpluggable devices. this is probably why it only works when you boot with it plugged in
[07:56] <fxnoob> lrb: kinda
[07:57] <lrb> Do you know the path to the device in /dev?
[07:58] <fxnoob> problem is I don't have it right now on me, is at home, but I will ask again when I get out of work
[07:58] <auronandace> elichai2: one thing i can suggest: run lsmod when booted without the dock and do it again when booted with the doc then you can compare the two to see the difference in the kernel modules loaded
[07:58] <lrb> Good idea, fxnoob
[08:01] <fxnoob> another question, is any support for Ryzen cpu's with Vega graphics in 18.04? Support as in accelerated video + hdmi sound. Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G
[08:01] <fxnoob> I tried beta, but it was a fail, basic vga and no sound at all
[08:03] <fxnoob> AMD provides drivers for win 10 x64 only on their site
[08:05] <elichai2> auronandace: sounds weird that there's a gpu inside the dock. and as I said it does works with hot plug but only once per boot
[08:06] <auronandace> elichai2: you can still compare the lsmod outputs to see any difference in drivers
[08:07] <jink> fxnoob: You sure?  https://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064
[08:07] <elichai2> i'll try, I just don't want to reboot right now. any other directions?
[08:08] <auronandace> elichai2: nothing i can think of. sorry i'm not much help
[08:11] <elichai2> ok, If anyone else have ideas it would be great :)
[08:17] <FlameStrike> Is there anyone here who can assit me? I'm having trouble signing into 18.04. When I enter my password, the system just freezes.
[08:20] <gartral> FlameStrike: are you on a secondary computer?
[08:22] <FlameStrike> At the moment, yes
[08:22] <lrb> Perhaps a better question: How do I configure the udisks2 automount options?
[08:25] <empedokles78> Which pdf doc-reader is recommended by ubuntu?
[08:27] <jink> empedokles78: https://askubuntu.com/a/18524
[08:28] <empedokles78> jink, is anyone of them fast? Okular certainly isn't. :)
[08:29] <jink> No clue.
[08:29] <jink> I don't read PDFs on Ubuntu.
[08:30] <vali> hi guys
[08:30] <vali> can anyone take a look at -> https://pastebin.com/eQGpq7z9 pls ?
[08:31] <vali> I'm trying to set the sudo defaults in AD. Using sssd for sudo
[08:31] <vali> and not seing anything when I run sudo -ll
[08:32] <fxnoob> jink: u are joking right? We are talking about 2018 technology
[08:33] <fxnoob> this cpu was released in february 2018, with 0 support for linux
[08:33] <blackflow> surely it's not a brand new ISA...
[08:34] <fxnoob> I was wondering if newer kernels from 18.04 contain drivers for these
[08:34] <blackflow> for what, Ryzen+ ?
[08:34] <fxnoob> Ryzen G, with integrated Vega graphics
[08:35] <blackflow> oh Vega... I wouldn't know about that, sorry.
[08:35] <blackflow> fxnoob: scan through some recent phoronix articles, iirc they did some tests
[08:36] <FlameStrike> I'm having trouble signing into 18.04. When I enter my password, the system just freezes. I can get into recovery mode, but from there I'm lost.
[08:39] <EriC^^> FlameStrike: does /var/log/syslog show anything? or ~/.xsession-errors ?
[08:40] <eric_lee> FlameStrike:you can enter the single mode and change the password
[08:41] <FlameStrike> Let me see if I can access those files
[08:41] <FlameStrike> The password I'm enetring is accurate, that's not the problem
[08:43] <FlameStrike> I'm not able to get a directory list
[08:43] <FlameStrike> I've just gotten three messages
[08:43] <blackflow> FlameStrike: what's the error.
[08:43] <FlameStrike> 1: Timed out waiting for device
[08:44] <FlameStrike> 2: Dependency failed for /dev/disk/by-...
[08:44] <blackflow> FlameStrike: that's when running `ls` ?
[08:44] <FlameStrike> 3: Dependency failed for swap
[08:44] <FlameStrike> I think that was unrelated to my attempt to get a directory listing
[08:45] <blackflow> so what's the error when you type `ls` ?
[08:45] <FlameStrike> "ls" and "dir" give no messages, they just kick me to a new command prompt without listing any directories or files
[08:46] <blackflow> FlameStrike: how about  ls -la  ?
[08:47] <darthrocker> i am not sure if this is the correct chan. i recently reinstalled a fresh copy of bionic and then installed i3wm. I have zero audio. i have run sound-test and the speakers do work. I have Not tried playing anything locally, just through browsers; firefox, chromium and google-chrome.. nada
[08:47] <FlameStrike> that worked, I've got a listing now
[08:48] <blackflow> darthrocker: i3 being a minimalistic tiling wm, and not a whole desktop environment, probably there's no initialization for pulseaudio.
[08:48] <Zajt> How do I make the /tmp folder not writeable by other users? Right now root owns it
[08:49] <FlameStrike> OK, i've found the syslog file, How do I open it?
[08:49] <blackflow> darthrocker: I think you can use 'pavucontrol' program for that, and run some bindsym's in the i3 config if you have a multimedia kbd
[08:50] <EriC^^> FlameStrike: sudo cat /var/log/syslog | nc termview.me 9999
[08:50] <EriC^^> share the link here
[08:50] <blackflow> FlameStrike: for starters, run     journalctl -n -p err | nc termbin.com 9999      -- that should give you an URL you can paste here. that pastebins the journal listing of latest errors
[08:51] <blackflow> or do what EriC^^ just stated, but that's the whole syslog being dumped.... might take a while.
[08:51] <FlameStrike> I can't get online with that machine at the moment. I'm in recovery mode with a command line
[08:51] <darthrocker> thank you backflow, got it
[08:51] <EriC^^> FlameStrike: in recovery mode theres "start networking"
[08:52] <tarzeau> can i have gnome-control-center without whoopsie, aptdaemon, wpasupplicant?
[08:52] <FlameStrike> I tried that, everytime I do, it freezes up at "started update utmp about system runlevel changes"
[08:52] <tarzeau> and without netowrk-manager?
[08:52] <tdn> EriC^^, what to put in the cronjob? I guess it will not go well to just put "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y" ?
[08:52] <tdn> ducasse, what script though?
[08:53] <SlashLife^work> Morning. On 16.04 (Unity, I think), is there a way to execute a GUI app in full screen or maximized?
[08:54] <ducasse> tdn: just create one
[08:54] <spikebike> that's app specific as far I know
[08:54] <blackflow> FlameStrike: do you know if you have a "regular consumer network" there? the IPs being in the 192.168.1.x range or something?
[08:54] <EriC^^> tdn: in general it's not a good idea to dist-upgrade blindly
[08:54] <spikebike> Passing in a geometry for full screen might do it, depending on the window manager you can ask for no decorations
[08:55] <EriC^^> maybe reconsider stuff
[08:55] <FlameStrike> As in my ISP, or my home network?
[08:55] <SlashLife^work> spikebike: Not the answer I wanted to hear; but at least I can stop looking for a generic solution then, thanks! o/
[08:56] <tdn> EriC^^, exactly. That is why I want to use the unattended-upgrades system.
[08:57] <FlameStrike> OK, my home network used those numbers, yeah
[09:00] <blackflow> FlameStrike: perhaps you can then try force a static IP, just to get online. first, do you know the name of the network interface?   something like   enp3s0   or similar?
[09:01] <blackflow> FlameStrike: `ip link show`    the first one will be "1: lo: ..."    so is there a second one?
[09:02] <FlameStrike> Yeah, there is a second one, and I've got the name
[09:03] <blackflow> FlameStrike: which name is it?
[09:03] <FlameStrike> enp2s0
[09:03] <blackflow> FlameStrike: okay, try set a static IP.     ip addr add 192.168.1.123/24 dev enp2s0
[09:04] <blackflow> FlameStrike: that assumes  .123    will be free in your assumingly DHCP network in the 192.168.1.0/24 range
[09:05] <blackflow> FlameStrike: then set up routing:     ip route add default via 192.168.1.1/24              -- and that assumes the gateway is at 192.168.1.1
[09:06] <blackflow> chances are the numbers are correct, if you have a "typical home network" there.  you can test by pinging google, eg.   ping -c 2 8.8.8.8
[09:06] <blackflow> if that works, you've got network and can pastebin that syslog.
[09:07] <FlameStrike> Well, the first one seems to have gone OK, but the second one says "Error: any valid address is expected rather than 192.168.1.1/24
[09:08] <blackflow> FlameStrike: try   ip route add default def enp2s0
[09:08] <blackflow> dev   not def
[09:09] <FlameStrike> "error: device for nexthop is not up."
[09:12] <blackflow> FlameStrike: try      ip route add default via 192.168.1.1 dev enp2s0
[09:13] <FlameStrike> Nexthop has invalid gateway
[09:15] <blackflow> FlameStrike: well then I suppose the addresses ARE wrong after all. You wouldn't know the IP range and gateway in your home network, would you?
[09:15] <blackflow> FlameStrike: have another computer you can check from? like the one you're on now?
[09:16] <interrobangd> hello, can someone say what "m" mean? i.e. "CONFIG_PSTORE_RAM=m"?
[09:16] <blackflow> interrobangd: it means "build it as module"
[09:16] <blackflow> "y" embeds it in the kernel direclty, "m" builds a module and "n" disables the option
[09:16] <FlameStrike> I tried looking that up with this machine, yeah, and I tried plugging in the numbers from what I was told was the gateway address
[09:17] <interrobangd> thx
[09:17] <interrobangd> blackflow, and what are the name of the module?
[09:17] <FlameStrike> I also tried the numbers from the range extender just in case the gateway signal was too weak
[09:18] <NoCode> What's a good reminder/alarm app?
[09:18] <blackflow> interrobangd: no idea, maybe pstore_ram ?
[09:19] <blackflow> interrobangd: some quick google search suggests "ramoops" will be the module name
[09:19] <blackflow> interrobangd: https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/PSTORE_RAM.html
[09:19] <interrobangd> dont find it on lsmod output
[09:20] <blackflow> FlameStrike: maybe I'm overthinkging this. Maybe you could just run    dhclient enp2s0    :)
[09:21] <interrobangd> there are no modules with "oop" or "ram" or "store"
[09:21] <NoCode> "W: Download is performed unsandboxed as root as file '/root/.synaptic/tmp//tmp_sh' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)" -- What the heck is that?
[09:21] <blackflow> interrobangd: so they're not loaded
[09:22] <FlameStrike> Well, that hasn't produced an error message yet. It also hasn't given me a new command prompt either.
[09:24] <blackflow> FlameStrike: it should, after a few seconds. If not, then there's another problem, and you can Ctrl-C the current task.
[09:25] <FlameStrike> I hit Ctrl-C
[09:25] <interrobangd> blackflow, you are right, thank you
[09:25] <interrobangd> its monday^^
[09:25] <FlameStrike> On that note, Ctrl-C is some kind of abort command?
[09:26] <blackflow> FlameStrike: yes, I believe it sends the ABORT signal to the running process.
[09:26] <blackflow> *ABRT
[09:27] <blackflow> no, sorry, INT, SIGINT (interrupt)
[09:27] <FlameStrike> That's a piece of the puzzle I may have been missing. I've hit that button combo a few times, not knowing what it was when it froze on the Enable networking option from the recovery menu
[09:27] <FlameStrike> I'm going to see where it freezes when I try that menu option again
[09:28] <blackflow> FlameStrike: it's also possible that your previous attempts to start the network service have derped something so this attempt at static or running dhclient direclty, is failing.
[09:29] <FlameStrike> Possible, but I hadn't tried anything like that since the last reboot
[09:29] <blackflow> FlameStrike: if you can't get the recovery env with networking enabled, try rebooting and don't enable networking, but try running     dhclient enp2s0    directly.
[09:30] <blackflow> I suspect enabling networkign causes an avalanche of systemd events and services and whatnots being run.
[09:30] <FlameStrike> I'm seeing it freeze up while doing something swap related. I don't know that's the problem or just a coincidence though.
[09:31] <soversuit> alternate on switch
[09:32] <blackflow> FlameStrike: ah.... yes. swap is swapfile now, and the root is readonly in rescue env.
[09:32] <blackflow> FlameStrike: try this then. reboot into rescue mode but don't choose enable networking. when you get the prompt, remount root as rw:     mount -o remount,rw /
[09:32] <FlameStrike> Rebooting now
[09:33] <blackflow> FlameStrike: that makes the root filesystem writeable. THEN try starting the network.      systemctl start network.target        I believe, not sure.
[09:33] <soversuit> systemctl
[09:37] <FlameStrike> Failed to start network.service: Unit network.service not found
[09:37] <FlameStrike> Failed to start target.service: Unit target.service not found
[09:38] <FlameStrike> After that the prompt popped up again, and I immetdiately got [ TIME ] Timed out waiting for device, dev-di...
[09:38] <FlameStrike> [DEPEND] Dependency failed for /dev/disk/by-...
[09:39] <FlameStrike> [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Swap
[09:40] <schnoodles-a> +
[09:40] <blackflow> FlameStrike: target.service?  did you type down     network.target     or     network target    (space instead of dot between them)?
[09:41] <FlameStrike> OK, there was supposed to be a . between them. OK, I couldn't tell
[09:43] <FlameStrike> Failed to start network.target: Operation refused, unit network.target may be requested by dependency only (it is configured to refuse manual star/stop). See System logs and 'systemctl status network.target' for details.
[09:44] <FlameStrike> network-target - Network
[09:45] <FlameStrike> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/network.target; static; vendor preset: en
[09:45] <FlameStrike> Active: inactive (dead)
[09:45] <FlameStrike> Docs: man:systemd.special(7)
[09:47] <blackflow> FlameStrike: sorry, no idea how to proceed. I'd ask you to pastebin the logs but eh... that's teh whole point.    As a last step, I'd reboot and try not using the network service setup, but just run dhclient enp2s0.  It _should_ on its own, be sufficient.
[09:49] <FlameStrike> Will do. I'm starting to suspect, though, that the swap may be a factor in this problem, and I may have to reinstall to try to fix it.
[09:59] <FlameStrike> Thanks for the attempt to help.
[10:07] <deanman> Hi, trying to setup apt-cacher-ng on a locally run container and using a second container to deploy my workflow. Unfortunately when i configure the latter to use the first for apt proxy it always get stuck at "waiting for headers". Any hints what could be wrong ?
[10:13] <sasho199> Hi everyone! Can someone tell me how to edit my boot parameters permanently?
[10:15] <marcbof_> hi
[10:16] <marcbof_> how can i help the community?
[10:16] <marcbof_> i speak english french and spanish
[10:16] <marcbof_> and understand a little of all programing languanges
[10:16] <marcbof_> just a little
[10:16] <marcbof_> ebouggh to translate
[10:17] <blackflow> sasho199: what boot parameters?
[10:18] <sasho199> blackflow: my system boots with nomodeset by default for some reason and I want to remove it
[10:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:19] <blackflow> sasho199: you can edit kernel command line options in /etc/default/grub, variable GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, it's a string taking space separated options, "quiet" and "splash" should be there by default
[10:19] <blackflow> sasho199: don't forget to run `update-grub` after you change that file.
[10:19] <sasho199> blackflow: Can you want me step by step cause Im new to this sort of thing? What is the first thing I have to do?
[10:20] <sasho199> blackflow: walk*
[10:22] <blackflow> sasho199: start a terminal program. run `sudo nano /etc/default/grub` . use cursor keys to position the caret just left of the last " on the line starting with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT.    type in whatever kernel command line option you want to add, then hit Ctrl-X to exit, accept the changes.   then run `sudo update-grub`.
[10:22] <kristenbb> hello, i'm using ubuntu 16.04, and the ubuntu launcher doesn't show anymore. I've tried many things on the web, such as apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop and rm -rf ~/.config, but it still doesnt work. any help please?
[10:23] <blackflow> sasho199: sudo nano.... starts the "nano" text editor as superuser, for the /etc/default/grub file.    sudo update-grub runs the update-grub command, which updates the grub options, as superuser.
[10:24] <blackflow> sasho199: btw, you need to start with a space, when adding stuff to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, as options must be space separated, like   quiet splash    are now.
[10:24] <sasho199> blackflow: ok I see nomodeset, which I want to remove
[10:25] <sasho199> blackflow: Should I delete the whole: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" or just nomodeset?
[10:25] <seni> is it okay when in the output of `lsblk -f` a drive is only listed with a single line? so without a `-sdc1 ...` line beneath it for the drive sdc for example?
[10:25] <blackflow> sasho199: just nomodeset,   leave   =""
[10:26] <blackflow> sasho199: technically I think you can remove the whole line, but I prefer to have some defaults explicitly set, even if empty.
[10:26] <sasho199> blackflow: Ok now its just GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="", how do I exit and save changes now?
[10:26] <blackflow> sasho199: Ctrl-X  and it'll ask you if you want to save the changes, so hit Y or whatever is it, don't remember right now.
[10:27] <sasho199> blackflow: And now "sudo update-grub"?
[10:27] <blackflow> sasho199: yes
[10:28] <seni> is my question poorly phrased or just wrong channel?
[10:28] <sasho199> blackflow: Ok, done anything else?
[10:28] <blackflow> sasho199: that's it, as far as changing the default kernel command line options via grub is concerned.
[10:29] <blackflow> sasho199: you'll have to reboot if you want to boot without that option.
[10:30] <Bugzie> sasho199: How that's the proper way to update grub conrfig
[10:30] <sasho199> blackflow: So far I was removing it before every boot, because my system did not work with it as I recall
[10:30] <blackflow> sasho199: then you don't have to reboot, unless you want to confirm the change :)
[10:30] <sasho199> Bugzie: I don't understand you question?
[10:30] <NoCode> There are zero functioning alarms now in the repository. kalarm won't run in Budgie. alarm-clock's UI is all messed up. there used to be a functioning alarm-clock-ng or something like that, that used to work which is no longer there.
[10:31] <sasho199> blackflow: Thanks for your help!
[10:31] <Bugzie> sasho199: That's how you want to change Kernel line, save, and reboot
[10:31] <NoCode> Gnome clocks doesn't want to minimize to the tray in Budgie.
[10:31] <NoCode> When closed, it doesn't work.
[10:34] <BluesKaj> think nomodeset should have quotation marks
[10:36] <blackflow> BluesKaj: read full backlog on the issue ;)
[10:36] <BluesKaj> can't, got here too late
[10:37] <BluesKaj> blackflow, https://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[10:37] <blackflow> BluesKaj: the user wanted to remove nomodeset from the command line.
[10:37] <BluesKaj> then replace with "quiet splash"
[10:38] <blackflow> BluesKaj: only if quite and splash are a wanted option.
[10:38] <blackflow> *quiet
[10:38] <BluesKaj> not quite , but quiet
[10:38] <blackflow> yah, I corrected myself.
[10:39] <Bugzie> nomodeset doesn't not need question marks
[10:39] <Bugzie> Does not*
[10:40] <sasho199> Is there any way I can make sure that my hardware is working correctly through a terminal command?
[10:40] <blackflow> sasho199: journalctl -n -p err   will list any obvious, logged errors.
[10:40] <Bugzie> sasho199: Why do you assume that the kernel isn't working?
[10:42] <blackflow> sasho199: it lists all things logged as errors, not just hardware issues. hardware issues will be logged through the kernel channel, most likely. so you could also use the   -k    option for journalctl to list just the kernel facility
[10:43] <blackflow> and sometimes stuff is not logged as error, while it in fact is error. so, read them all and see what might be relevant :)
[10:44] <Bugzie> sasho199: TO be clear, Linux kernel, just as Windows 10, have more realibility
[10:44] <Bugzie> sasho199: You need to have sever hardward problem to see a massive problem
[10:45] <BluesKaj> Bugzie, do you know what quotation marks means it's,  "word" for example
[10:45] <Bugzie> sasho199: Did you test your memory?
[10:45] <blackflow> Bugzie: please stop confusing new users with nonsensical advice.
[10:45] <Bugzie> There is no question marks on Grub 2 command line
[10:45] <Bugzie> Not between words
[10:46] <BluesKaj> ? is a question mark
[10:46] <BluesKaj> and as blackflow said stop the interference with your nonsense
[10:46] <BluesKaj> Bugzie,^
[10:46] <sasho199> Bugzie: I dont understand what you are refering to
[10:47] <Bugzie> There is not fucking " between words
[10:47] <sasho199> blackflow: I cant seems to write the command in the correct way
[10:47] <blackflow> sasho199: which command?
[10:47] <BluesKaj> ssh ignore him , he's just interfering
[10:47] <Bugzie> Grub the boot lorder
[10:47] <BluesKaj> sasho199,^
[10:47] <sasho199> blackflow: I tried: journalctl -k err
[10:47] <Bugzie> Dose not respect it
[10:47] <Bugzie> So, "
[10:48] <blackflow> sasho199: "err" was for -p   so:     -k     or     -k -p err
[10:48] <Bugzie> Grub does not respect it
[10:48] <Bugzie> Grub 2
[10:49] <sasho199> blackflow: I get two things: "Bluetooth: hci0: Failed to load rtl_bt/rtl8821a_config.bin" and "tpm_crb MSFT0101:00: can't request region for resource [mem 0xfed40080-0xfed40fff]", I dont understand the second one at all
[10:51] <blackflow> sasho199: the former is a missing firmware binary it seems, and the latter is something about the TPM (trusted computing) chip. probably nothing to worry about.
[10:51] <blackflow> sasho199: do you have any apparent issues you're trying to track down?
[10:53] <sasho199> blackflow: Why I wanted to check is, because I had to do some weird stuff to install and for the system to work(becuase of nvidia driver), now everything seems to work correctly. I read that some grub parameters can turn off important hardware features so I wanted to check
[10:53] <blackflow> sasho199: btw, the `man` command invokes the nice manual pages.    `man journalctl` will give you one for journalctl. you should really  check the manpages of each command you're given and you're not familiar with.
[10:54] <sasho199> blackflow: That is very helpful, I was looking at internet guides until now
[10:55] <blackflow> sasho199: if anything, just throw a glance at the options given. not all advice on the net is.... benevolent.
[10:55] <Bugzie> s/nenevolent/helpful/
[10:56] <Bugzie> s/benevolent/helpful/
[10:56] <blackflow> well there's the occasional rm-rf joker.... :)
[10:57] <sasho199> blackflow: I do try to understand the commands people tell me before writing them mindlessly to the terminal, I also read that I should never write encoded commands
[10:57] <kristenbb> hello, i'm using ubuntu 16.04, and the ubuntu launcher doesn't show anymore. I've tried many things on the web, such as apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop and rm -rf ~/.config, but it still doesnt work. any help please?
[10:57] <blackflow> sasho199: encoded?
[10:58] <sasho199> blackflow: A command that has been fed through an encoding angorithm so a human cannot read it but the terminal still can, I dont know much about it, have seen it only once
[10:58] <lapaga> sasho199, did you not just say everything is working correctly? why mess with things until they break when there is no reason
[10:58] <blackflow> sasho199: ah, definitely :)
[11:04] <sasho199> lapaga, blackflow: Well I dont really know if everything is working correctly, it just seems to me like that. But you are right, I just wanted to check.
[11:07] <sasho199> lapaga, blackflow: To be fair, Im just trying to get into linux and see what I can do on it
[11:14] <BluesKaj> sasho199, well, experimenting is one thing , but asking for support when you muck things up is not a positive learning method and it takes up time from those who have real issues
[11:14] <BluesKaj> oops, too late
[11:22] <kekmeizter> Anyone here familiar with rsyslog and how i can extract a part of the logentry that is "severity"?
[11:24] <blackflow> kekmeizter: for existing log entries, if it's not part of the message, then you can't. for future log entries you can edit the log format. quick googling suggests it's done via "template" directives.
[11:25] <Guest68669> hi
[11:26] <kostkon> Guest68669, hi
[11:26] <Kiriuha_HB6> how are you
[11:26] <Kiriuha_HB6> ?
[11:27] <kostkon> Kiriuha_HB6, i'm ok
[11:37] <yuz> hi
[11:39] <yuz> I want to add another user on my computer as administrator also which mean there will be going to have a two administrator on one computer. But I don't want to see each other files even using a sudo command. What can I do?
[11:39] <kekmeizter> blackflow: It is part of the message (if i understand what message is). I only need to fix it for future log entries, but i would rather parse it differently than change the log format
[11:39] <yuz> I want to add another user on my computer as administrator also which mean there will be going to have a two administrator on one computer. But I don't want to see each other files even using a sudo command. What can I do?
[11:40] <spikebike> encypt your files
[11:40] <spikebike> even then you still have to trust the other admin
[11:41] <TaZeR> yuz: root and sudo by definition override almost every other setting, maybe instead of giving them root access you can give them a highly privilaged set of rules for their user
[11:43] <TaZeR> but yea encryption would work well, try CryFS it expands on the popular encs and is easy to use
[11:43] <TaZeR> encfs*
[11:48] <Squall5668> Someone with full sudo access can easily log the password for your encrypted files. The only solution is to NOT give sudo access to someone you do not trust with your files. That is the only way
[11:49] <kekmeizter> blackflow: Even if i had to change the format how would i need to format the logmessage to make rsyslog pickup on the severity?
[11:49] <spikebike> or create a virtualmachine/container to keep ya seperate
[11:50] <Jazzy_J> yuz, Look at what functions you want that user to perform, and then give him access only to those functions.
[11:51] <Squall5668> The one with access to the physical machine's root, wins. The original question was to "not see each others files". Impossible
[11:56] <Wulf> Hi
[11:56] <anonymip> hi
[11:56] <Wulf> gdm3 starts gnome-shell. gnome-shell crashes with a segfault. How can I enable core dumps?
[12:00] <ioria> Wulf, in theory , you don't need to; look at /var/crash
[12:00] <Wulf> ioria: no such directory
[12:01] <yuz> Squall5668: so there's no way for two administrators to restrict each other?
[12:01] <ioria> Wulf, are you on ubuntu ? if yes, what version ?
[12:01] <spikebike> yuz: gneerally use different machines
[12:01] <Wulf> ioria: xenial
[12:02] <ioria> Wulf, so you have /var/crash
[12:02] <yuz> ok thank you
[12:03] <Wulf> ioria: I now installed apport. /var/crash now exists and I get my core dump. Thanks for the hint :)
[12:03] <ioria> Wulf, ha, ok
[12:03] <yuz> one more question this is different scenario. Let's say there's an account name JKL and someone is using it directly. Can other client access the same account (JKL) using ssh?
[12:03] <yuz> at the same time
[12:04] <Squall5668> yuz: No
[12:05] <yuz> Ok that's it
[12:05] <Squall5668> yuz: wait, no was a reply to the mention. I didn't read your last one, sorry
[12:06] <Squall5668> You can login to the same account multiple times with any method, so yes
[12:07] <gumballpat> Sons of the Eagle
[12:07] <thaxy> Hi, I havent found an answer on the internet but since I upgradtet to 18.04 I can't move around my windows by pressing ctrl+alt and numpad keys. Has anyone an idea how to get this functionality back?
[12:08] <gumballpat> @SearchSons Of The Eagle
[12:08] <yuz> how abount dfferent account? can be ? I mean when someone is using the account JKL directly and another client acces the RTY account name via ssh on the same machine. Is that possible?
[12:09] <Squall5668> yes
[12:09] <mbi_12345> Any archive issues at this moment? seems like dk.archive.ubuntu.com is failing to respond
[12:10] <spikebike> yuz: yes, accounts without root can be seperated
[12:10] <ioria> thaxy, https://askubuntu.com/questions/947188/how-do-i-restore-the-unity-7-ctrl-alt-numpad-combination-behaviour-on-gnome-3
[12:11] <yuz> spikebike: sorry that sounds unclear to me
[12:11] <thaxy> ioria: thanks I will take a look at this
[12:11] <ioria> thaxy, ok
[12:15] <thaxy> ioria: what a cramp, considering to switch back to unity T.T
[12:16] <Drecondius> Do I need to be here or in a different channel for server issues?
[12:16] <ioria> thaxy, you could :þ
[12:16] <thaxy> ioria: Could I? I thought it should be possible, or not?
[12:17] <ioria> !info unity-session | thaxy
[12:17] <ioria> thaxy, but not maintained anymore
[12:18] <gumballpat> @searchSonsoftheeagle
[12:19] <thaxy> ioria: well, then I don't like the idea. I hope the developers of gnome consider to add some default shortcuts. Such a basic functionality should be default.
[12:19] <thaxy> ioria: already spend a hour or so
[12:19] <ioria> thaxy, yes, i think the same
[12:20] <Drecondius> Well here goes, I'm having an issue where I'm getting insane (upwards of 1k ms) latency on a local network server machine that I have setup to run minecraft. Problem being I can connect to and see others machines far easier than I can on my own network. It doesn't produce so much latency on a windows rig ergo it has to be something in the server. any ideas what it could be? because I'm at a loss.
[12:20] <thaxy> ioria: thanks for your help. It seems that I have to bind them all by my own :S
[12:20] <ioria> thaxy,  maybe you find something useful in gnome-tweak-tool  , but really idk
[12:21] <Drecondius> Even my SSH connection to the server times out on occasion.
[12:22] <leftyfb> Drecondius: tried another ethernet cable?
[12:22] <leftyfb> Drecondius: I had a similar issue and turned out I had a CAT3 cable
[12:22] <ledeni> thaxy, check -->https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/KeyboardShortcuts
[12:23] <Drecondius> leftyfb : it is cat 6 for certian. Multiple lines tested even went and bought multiple cables.
[12:24] <leftyfb> Drecondius: what version of ubuntu?
[12:24] <glitchd> having a small issue with 18.04, running xubuntu desktop, is it ok to ask some questions in here?
[12:24] <leftyfb> !ask | glitchd
[12:24] <Drecondius> err, 17.10 i think, lemme check
[12:25] <glitchd> leftyfb, yea i know the montra of dont ask to ask, but im asking about something with xubuntu desktop and didnt want to get flamed for it, but ok.
[12:25] <Drecondius> Yes, 17.10
[12:25] <kekmeizter> Anyone knows what my syslog logentries need to look like to make rsyslog pickup on the severity?
[12:26] <glitchd> so i installed 18.04 on my system, then proceeded to install xubuntu desktop, thats all fine and everything works. my issue is that i installed wine thru the winehq repo, and after it installed it did not appear in the applications menu.
[12:27] <glitchd> any ideas on how to fix that?
[12:27] <Drecondius> I'm going to install 18.04
[12:28] <Drecondius> if it still happens I'll be back to see what else I can try.
[12:29] <paddy> https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/#compilation this are the dependancies for mpv how do I best search for them on ubuntu?
[12:32] <lapaga> paddy I just got here so not sure why you are doing it that way but have you tried synaptic to install?
[12:35] <paddy> no, is synaptic a different package manager?
[12:35] <paddy> lapaga
[12:35] <lapaga> paddy yes it is
[12:36] <paddy> lapaga: trying to build the git version so I can get the latest libmpv so I can build mpc-qt
[12:36] <paddy> will synaptic install dependancies?
[12:37] <lapaga> yes it will but i have no idea which version it has
[12:37] <blackflow> kekmeizter: syslog logs pure text, so unless the already logged lines contain the parseable severity (which afaik it doesn't by default), then you have to create a new logging template that includes severity. exactly how to do that, I don't know, please consult the rsyslog documentation.
[12:37] <paddy> lapaga: okay, answering the original question, what would be the best way to search for the deps?
[12:38] <blackflow> kekmeizter: but since all those logs are going through journald, why just not use the journald's facilities?
[12:39] <Squall5668> because journald cannot send logs
[12:39] <blackflow> afaik it can, if you're talking about remotely fetching. I think it's over http, and you have to pull, not push, the entries.
[12:40] <Squall5668> That won't work for most things. For examle elastic, which is the flavor of the year (or so)
[12:40] <blackflow> I see. I guess changing the syslog format is the only way then. OR, split up messages into multiple files by severity.
[12:41] <raub> So I cannot login from console to my ubuntu box. I can see mouse but it seems to be ignoring keyboard
[12:42] <raub> I can ssh into it and what I see in syslog is lots of
[12:42] <raub> May  7 08:32:05 desktop kernel: [4630623.819247] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fifo: SCHED_ERROR 0a [CTXSW_TIMEOUT]
[12:42] <raub> entries
[12:42] <Squall5668> raub: ah, welcome to my world. Try installing the nvidia driver
[12:42] <raub> Squall5668: New one?
[12:43] <Squall5668> raub: any driver that supports your gpu. Please ping me if that fixes it
[12:44] <raub> Squall5668: I take oyu are talking about https://askubuntu.com/questions/874307/ubuntu-16-04-desktop-hangs-occasionally-during-regular-use#883696 and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93629
[12:45] <Squall5668> raub: Similar issues have been reported multiple times at multiple bugtrackers without a fix other than "install nvidia drivers". I'm trying to find the root cause myself
[12:46] <raub> Squall5668: understood
[12:46] <raub> I will document my findings
[12:46] <raub> Fun that it decided to do that sometime between Friday and today
[12:46] <Squall5668> raub: Please feel free to ping me if you have anything on it
[12:46] <raub> It seems to work fine otherwise; I am remoted into it and its windows vm
[12:47] <Squall5668> Yes, it's usually just the console. On my issue I can't even drop to a tty
[12:47] <Squall5668> magic keys do work though
[12:54] <Mark_444> / list #se
[12:59] <TheEagerPadawan> managed to find a work around for my problem i had during the weekend
[12:59] <TheEagerPadawan> can any body tell me where the opera profile is located?
[12:59] <blackflow> TheEagerPadawan: what was it
[13:00] <TheEagerPadawan> blackflow: https://askubuntu.com/questions/238047/how-do-i-mount-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-another-ubuntu-machine
[13:00] <TheEagerPadawan> now i need to figure out how to get my opera backed up
[13:00] <TheEagerPadawan> which is located under ~/.config/opera
[13:00] <TheEagerPadawan> but it seems to have some special files (ahum)
[13:00] <TheEagerPadawan> oh well can still chmod it :p
[13:01] <TheEagerPadawan> hmm that would probably break it :D
[13:11] <foo2k> Hello in GNU Screen, how do I  send Sysrq key? to reset a remote stuck system?
[13:26] <fofalee> hello
[13:26] <fofalee> gcc -l ; what should be the name of the c library for the required option
[13:26] <fofalee> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lglibc
[13:28] <xirg> Can anyone link me to a guide for mounting ubuntu /var/www directory on a windows sshfs client?
[13:28] <Wulf> fofalee: it's linked to by default.
[13:29] <Wulf> fofalee: and try -lc if you really need to.
[13:40] <rmoore> hey everyone. just upgraded to Bionic and I'm having trouble making a WIndows install USB.
[13:40] <rmoore> I've googled it extensively but so far nothing for doing this in Bionic
[13:43] <EriC^^> rmoore: are you making a uefi compatible windows usb or bios legacy?
[13:43] <rmoore> legacy
[13:46] <JuJUBee> I used to disable my trackpad (System76 Oryx) using Fn+F1 but after the upgrade to 18.04, it is not working.  Tried using synclient trackpaddoff=1 (or 0) but the setting resets itself automatically.
[13:46] <eric_lee> rmoore, you can open windows iso with 'disk image mounter',and then copy the all file to usb driver.
[13:46] <rmoore> how do I set it as bootable from there?
[13:48] <eric_lee> for older bios,you can use 'woeUSB'
[13:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> how does maintenance of e.g. apache2 work?
[13:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> how does ubuntu's package differ from debian's, generally?
[13:50] <xirg> what do the numbers inside parentheses mean in file names
[13:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> presumably the debian maintainers are the ones backporting security fixes, right?
[13:50] <xirg> for example, the sample smb.conf file contains this: "You should read the
[13:50] <xirg> # smb.conf(5) manual page in order to..."
[13:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> do the ubuntu maintainers generally do any additional backports beyond that? or is ubuntu's apache2 basically a repackaging of debian's?
[13:51] <fofalee> Wulf: how do I learn linking if I don't get the opportunity to...
[13:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> the reason i ask is because apache2 2.4.26 introduced a "feature" which is actually a fix for an unexpected breaking change introduced in 2.4.0
[13:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> unfortunately, this feature isn't getting backported to apache2 in trusty or xenial.
[13:53] <JimBuntu> xirg, The number in the parenthesis relates to the section of the man entry
[13:53] <Squall5668> xirg: it's the manpage section. Check man man
[13:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> which maintainer would i need to lobby to get that feature backported? debian's or ubuntu's?
[13:54] <Squall5668> NoImNotNineVolt: You can file a bug report for the package on ubuntu and it will be sent to upstream if needed. Of course, you could check debian's package yourself and see if it's also valid for it
[13:55] <Squall5668> So you can file the report against debian's package
[13:55] <xirg> Thank you
[13:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> Squall5668: it is. it's also valid for upstream upstream vanilla apache.
[13:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> it was a bug in vanilla apache from 2.4.0 through 2.4.25
[13:56] <NoImNotNineVolt> unfortunately, the fix isn't backported because it's technically a new feature, not a security/bugfix.
[13:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> so trusty (2.4.7) and xenial (2.4.18 i think) still have no fix.
[13:57] <aleksander> i have to type „/etc/init.d/amixer-webui start”  on every system boot manually. is there a fast way to have this done automatically?
[13:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> and i believe that's the case for debian as well, on the same grounds.
[13:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> new features aren't backported, because then you're backporting everything, and so you're not really backporting, you're just pushing a new version :P
[13:59] <Squall5668> Try to cat /etc/debian_version for now, to check which upstream is correct if you want to report against that
[14:00] <Wulf> fofalee: link to other libraries.
[14:00] <Wulf> fofalee: -lm would be a good start.
[14:00] <Squall5668> But, if you want to be safe, just report it for ubuntu and ask for opinions on what could be done
[14:06] <virtuosoj> Is there a way to install WineHQ on Ubuntu 18.04?
[14:07] <plasmoduck> virtuosoj, have you tried playonlinux ?
[14:08] <virtuosoj> plasmoduck,  I haven't tried it this install, I've tried it before and it takes so much longer than just normal wine
[14:08] <virtuosoj> I guess I could install from the repository but I'm used to getting the wine-devel package, and repos dont seem to be out yet for 18.04 WineHQ
[14:09] <Squall5668> virtuosoj: There is a wine-development package you could use in 18.04
[14:12] <dekatch> the most recommended software to use windows apps on ubuntu? is it still wine? or are there any better developed alternatives out? need one to try how foobar2000 would work
[14:16] <yeats> dekatch: wine is probably your best bet - or running windows in a VM (if possible)
[14:17] <dekatch> ty yeats
[14:18] <Ezro> Hey everyone. I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 and have installed Sway (0.15.0). How can I launch Sway with sudo permissioning from the login dropdown menu?
[14:18] <yeats> dekatch: I think it's best to just use whatever's available natively though - I used to try to shoehorn Windows apps onto Ubuntu/other Linux, but in the end it's not worth it (unless you have to use a specific app for work or something)
[14:18] <bastien_> OTD
[14:19] <brainwash> Ezro: why sudo?
[14:19] <yeats> Ezro: are you asking how to create a menu item? if so, look into menulibre
[14:19] <Ezro> brainwash: I have a bindsym for my brightness buttons and it's failing to run 'brightnessctl' because it doesn't have permission.
[14:20] <brainwash> Ezro: 1) https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki#login-managers
[14:20] <bastien_> JOIN toto
[14:20] <brainwash> Ezro: 2) https://github.com/Hummer12007/brightnessctl#permissions
[14:21] <dekatch> yeats, i know. just that there was never a music library app on linux with which i could reach the level of convinience as i would use foobar2000. nvm . if it fails ill use that other most recommended one
[14:23] <leftyfb> bastien_: can we help you with something?
[14:23] <leftyfb> bastien_: please do not pm
[14:24] <leftyfb> !support | bastien_
[14:24] <bastien_> I'm trying to understand how to recod an IRC server
[14:24] <bastien_> recode*
[14:24] <bastien_> Then I have to understand how does it works
[14:25] <bastien_> So don't need any help thx
[14:25] <leftyfb> bastien_: ok, this isn't the channel for that. Please do your testing elsewhere.
[14:26] <matic> Anyone else with 18.04 having the 'bash script opens in editor' even when setting as executable is true?
[14:26] <leftyfb> matic: that's not a bug.
[14:27] <leftyfb> matic: Might I suggest creating a .desktop file to run your shell script
[14:28] <Ezro> brainwash: Thanks for the links. I'm still admittedly a bit confused. Since brightnessctl is already installed, would I need to follow the udev route?
[14:29] <brainwash> Ezro: I guess so. copy the 90-brightnessctl.rules over to /etc/udev/rules.d/
[14:31] <matic> leftyfb, thanks, but Im developing a blender game and need terminal output for debugging
[14:31] <matic> this wasnt an issue with 14.04
[14:31] <Cuby96> can someone help me with 3d acceleration not working in the virtual machine? i have ubuntu 18.04 as host and windows 7 as VM
[14:31] <dekatch> yeats look at that. installed wine without hassles and i got prompt even the one application recommended via ubuntu store -> foobar2000 ha
[14:31] <dekatch> the one app i so desperately need !
[14:32] <dekatch> not as polished GUI wise as on windows and not even close GUI wise to other linux players. but still. the best !x
[14:32] <leftyfb> matic: yes it was. If you need to open a shell script by doubleclicking it, then you'll need to set it's file association to open with bash. Why can't you just run the script name in a terminal? Or make a .desktop file?
[14:33] <Bugzie> matic: You can't replicate what you did in 14.04 in future version of ubuntu?
[14:33] <fofalee> Wulf: -lm? wha'ts that
[14:34] <fofalee> no Wulf tell me the full cmd
[14:34] <yeats> dekatch: great! glad it works for you
[14:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> what are the odds that /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_autoindex.so from ubuntu 18.04 will run in ubuntu 14.04?
[14:34] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: I wouldn't
[14:35] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: what's the reason you're trying to do that?
[14:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> or am i risking the wrath of god by even thinking such things?
[14:35] <matic> leftyfb, thanks, just blundered into the nautilus settings (gnome-terminal -e "MESA_GL_VERSION_OVERRIDE=2.1 blender")
[14:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> yeats: there's a mod_autoindex bugfix in apache 2.4.26 for a bug introduced in 2.4.0 but it will never get backported.
[14:35] <Bugzie> very unlikely
[14:35] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: you can probably see what libraries won't work with 'ldd mod_autoindex.so'
[14:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm on ubuntu 14.04 with apache 2.4.7
[14:36] <Bugzie> Apache API/ABI might have changed significantly that will it will fail
[14:36] <Bugzie> Espeacilly 14.04
[14:36] <Ezro> brainwash: I copied the rules file over and restarted but nothing happened. Do I need to run a command to execute the new rules?
[14:36] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: yeah, I wouldn't expect it to work
[14:36] <Bugzie> Unless they back port Apache
[14:36] <xirg> can samba be configured to allow mounting of a share from an outside network
[14:36] <NoImNotNineVolt> they backport security fixes all the time :P
[14:36] <brainwash> Ezro: no
[14:36] <brainwash> Ezro: or wait
[14:36] <Bugzie> Security != features
[14:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> and features that fix bugs != bugfixes
[14:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> i know, i already went through that with upstream :P
[14:37] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: another option might be to seek out a trustworthy PPA that contains the version you want
[14:37] <Bugzie> features don't fix bugz
[14:37] <qwerty_> suggest me good themes for ubunutu gnome?
[14:37] <leftyfb> xirg: samba doesn't mount anything. But yes, you can mount a filesystem onto a samba share and as long as you have proper permissions, it'll work
[14:37] <Bugzie> They introduce a something new
[14:37] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: or install from source
[14:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> yeats: i've already found one.
[14:37] <yeats> ah
[14:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> installing from source would introduce a 24/7 patching burden that i can't afford.
[14:38] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: yeah - it's all about tradeoffs :-)
[14:38] <qwerty_> can u guys name any?
[14:38] <leftyfb> qwerty_: that's not a support question. Please try themes and choose based on your own personal preferences
[14:38] <brainwash> Ezro: is your user in the 'video' group? check with the command "groups"
[14:38] <xirg> leftyfb, that's waht I meant.  I want to mount my /var/www ubuntu directory on a windows machine from another domain
[14:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> but i'm also iffy about using a 3rd party ppa, even a good one.
[14:38] <leftyfb> xirg: that'll be fine, as long as you have the share, mount and permissions set properly
[14:39] <qwerty_> brainwash i just ur suggestion . thats all
[14:39] <Ezro> brainwash: I'm not, it seems.
[14:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> considering setting up a 14.04 dev box, building new apache from source, taking mod_autoindex.so from there and copying it to my prod box.
[14:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> at least the deps will be correct then.
[14:39] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: it would be quicker to just move your site to apache on Ubuntu 18.04
[14:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> not an approved os here yet.
[14:40] <NoImNotNineVolt> we just moved to 14.04 :'(
[14:40] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: then they don't get that feature
[14:40] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: agreed about the PPA wariness... I would definitely proceed with caution
[14:40] <NoImNotNineVolt> to clarify, we just moved to 14.04 and to 2.4.7, which means we just introduced the bug that exists in 2.4.0-2.4.25
[14:40] <brainwash> Ezro: sudo usermod -a -G video <USERNAME>
[14:40] <brainwash> Ezro: then relog
[14:41] <NoImNotNineVolt> so we broke out stuff, and the "feature" that fixes that bug doesn't really look like a "feature" from my point of view :P
[14:41] <NoImNotNineVolt> s/out/our/
[14:41] <Bugzie> To clarify, I am not sure you know what you are doing, features, doesn't fix bugs
[14:42] <leftyfb> Bugzie: don't be rude
[14:42] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: <unsolicited_advice>come up with a couple of viable options with pros and cons and let your bosses decide how they want to proceed - that way it's not your fault :-)</unsolicited_advice>
[14:42] <Bugzie> No, to pretend, does disservice
[14:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> Bugzie: https://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1787525
[14:42] <Ezro> Thank worked brainwash! Thanks for the help
[14:42] <brainwash> Ezro: you're welcome
[14:43] <Bugzie> NoImNotNineVolt: I think, what yeats suggested, compile from source, if you want to remain on 14.04, would be ideal
[14:43] <Bugzie> Although, that would be tough to maintain
[14:43] <leftyfb> FSVO "ideal"
[14:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm talking about building a new version from source and only moving the new mod_autoindex.so to prod.
[14:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> leaving the os-maintained binary apache in place otherwise.
[14:44] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's not clear to me how future updates would impact my custom .so though
[14:44] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: apt updates will probably break that setup, resulting in the same scenario you'd be in building the whole thing from source
[14:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> i can think of a few hackish workarounds there.
[14:45] <yeats> (i.e., something you'd have to patch manually all the time)
[14:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm not sure about that.
[14:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> i think security updates would continue to get applied fine.
[14:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> they might clobber my custom .so every time
[14:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> but i could hack around that.
[14:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed, how does dpkg apply security updates for apache2?
[14:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> presumably it only touches files that changed, right?
[14:46] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: I would think for the most part your custom file would be fine, but as you suggest you may need to replace it. You'd also need to watch fixes that go into it so you can rebuild if necessary
[14:47] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: that said, I'm slightly concerned that your only approved OS is one that ends support in less than a year
[14:47] <Squall5668> NoImNotNineVolt: May I suggest a ppa for apache? Since you said your bug is only up to version 2.4.25
[14:47] <Squall5668> That would be way easier to maintain
[14:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> tgm4883: we just moved from 12.04. i hate my life.
[14:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> Squall5668: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/apache2?field.series_filter=trusty
[14:49] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: why would you go to 14.04? That was released 4 years ago.
[14:49] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: it just clobbers as you thought - I would imagine it clobbers everything
[14:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> leftyfb: by cto decree
[14:49] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: thats terrible. You should already be testing a new version to move to. Whether that is 16.04 or 18.04
[14:49] <yeats> leftyfb: not that uncommon in orgs with tighly-controlled IT
[14:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> yeats: so then i just need a cron job to check the hash of that .so, and if it's not my hash, overwrite with my copy, restart apache, done.
[14:50] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: you have 11 months to move to 16.04 or 18.04
[14:50] <yeats> NoImNotNineVolt: sounds reasonable
[14:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> leftyfb: that's what you think. again, we just moved from 12.04 :P
[14:50] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: or use some form of configuration management for it (eg. puppet/salt/ansible)
[14:50] <yeats> yeah, I manage a box stuck on 12.04 too - we're slowly moving off of it :-/
[14:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> tgm4883: it's enough of a pain to cobble this stuff together without having to then write ansible scripts for it :P
[14:51] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: no, you have 11 months to move or you won't get security patches
[14:51] <Bugzie> tgm4883: That's a good idea
[14:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> tgm4883: welcome to the real world, where valid concerns like security are dismissed in the name of "?!?".
[14:51] <Bugzie> but if I was him, I would quit his job, and go work somewhere else
[14:51] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: The plus side of doing that is it's a hell of a lot easier to move to a new version
[14:51] <tgm4883> Bugzie: +1 on the looking for new employment
[14:52] <NoImNotNineVolt> have you never been in a situation where management prohibits the sane solution? :P
[14:52] <xirg> I'm in vim right now and I have made a few changes to a file I dont want to lose
[14:52] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: lets keep on topic
[14:52] <xirg> but i forgot to open with sudo, and i dont have permission to save righ tnow
[14:52] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: Been in that situation. But generally speaking in those situations when you have a security issue you're going to be the one to blame
[14:52] <xirg> how can I save this without losing changes
[14:53] <tgm4883> NoImNotNineVolt: in any case, as painful as your situation sounds, I have to go to a Dentist appointment. Good luck
[14:53] <Squall5668> NoImNotNineVolt: Explain the cost of maintaining it manually. Do you not have checks by outside authorities wherever you are? How can you have an unmaintained OS?
[14:53] <leftyfb> xirg: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2600783/how-does-the-vim-write-with-sudo-trick-work   first result on google for "vim write sudo"
[14:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> tgm4883: lol
[14:53] <yeats> tgm4883: NoImNotNineVolt: which is why you tell the CTO/whoever the options and let them tell you what to do :-)
[14:53] <Bugzie> "puppet/salt/ansible", never tried salt, but ansible is a good
[14:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed, i'm a master of voicing concerns and then doing what i'm told either way.
[14:53] <NoImNotNineVolt> not my ass.
[14:54] <NoImNotNineVolt> sorry, language.
[14:54] <leftyfb> !ot | NoImNotNineVolt
[14:54] <xirg> leftyfb, thanks
[14:54] <NoImNotNineVolt> but either way, thanks for the advice. i think i have a path forward now.
[14:59] <die7> had strange issue today with rsyslog on ubuntu 14, user sshd was owner of syslog files
[14:59] <die7> in rsyslog was stated user syslog
[14:59] <die7> and adm grp
[14:59] <gpap> hello everybody
[15:00] <EriC^^> hello gpap
[15:00] <dekatch> somebody around with some possible audio problems with older hardware? besides pavucontrol, alsa audio? i am still not able to control each channel of my integrated 5.1 channel alc888 card. its manageable, but just in a weird way. are there any older driver repositorys the default ubuntu sources.list hasnt added by default?
[15:01] <dekatch> some possible audio problem *solutions**
[15:01] <gpap> is anyone here experience problem with nautilus nautilus positioning on to the screen?
[15:01] <Bugzie> die7: OpenSSH runs as root, when a user logs in, they get spawned a new process owned by that user
[15:02] <Bugzie> Although, going far back as 14.04, the mechanics shouldn't change much
[15:02] <gpap> i can not make nautilus stick left or right neither mouse or using tremendous + arrow, I am into my secondary monitor, with closed the main laptop screen, dell laptop
[15:03] <gpap> all the other programs can do that
[15:06] <die7> Bugzie: how far this has with file ownership to do? I mean on the other U 14 I do not have sshd.adm user owenership on syslog, auth.log, kernel.log
[15:07] <dekatch> is it by chance possible to access an external USB drive with windows bitlocker encryption? without creating a vm or such
[15:07] <die7> Bugzie: but on the syslog....since it was as that no messages was written, after correction means changing owenership to syslog it wents again fine
[15:08] <Bugzie> die7: If openSSH is using SysLog facility in your configuration, check your syslogger configuration
[15:08] <jmgb4> Just curious if there is a way to get desktop switching to work for a single monitor when you have dual.
[15:09] <die7> Bugzie: nothing there regarding ssh
[15:09] <die7> Bugzie: but in sshd is normal SyslogFacility AUTH
[15:10] <Bugzie> AFAIK, openSSH uses AUTH for the facility, so what's you configuration for auth.*?
[15:11] <Bugzie> My guess, is, it's not openSSH but rsyslog
[15:11] <die7> Bugzie: auth,authpriv.*                 /var/log/auth.log
[15:12] <die7> Bugzie: *.*;auth,authpriv.none          -/var/log/syslog
[15:12] <Bugzie> sEEMS NORMAL TO ME
[15:13] <Bugzie> Seems normal to me*
[15:13] <lapaga> hi all...when the screensaver is activated I lose the keyboard and the only way to do anything is click switch user...any thoughts?
[15:13] <die7> Bugzie: no way ...it should be a syslog user who is the owner ...not the sshd
[15:14] <Bugzie> die7: openSSH runs as root
[15:14] <Bugzie> die7: I don't know what sshd user you are talking about
[15:15] <die7> Bugzie: I have 2 U 14...on one I have user ownership of the files sshd.adm on the syslog,auth.log,kernel.log and this is wrong
[15:15] <die7> Bugzie: also not working
[15:15] <die7> Bugzie: on the other owner is syslog.adm and this log and work fine
[15:16] <Bugzie> ps aux | grep sshd
[15:16] <Bugzie> What user is it running as?
[15:16] <die7> Bugzie: root
[15:17] <Bugzie> something else set that permission
[15:17] <m47h4r> how can i update from 16.10 to 18.04? is it even possible?
[15:17] <die7> Bugzie: that is what I looking for
[15:19] <kostkon> m47h4r, not recommended yet. You'll be automatically prompted to upgrade when 18.04.1 comes out in a few months. but it is possible to force it, yes
[15:19] <m47h4r> kostkon: Oh! thank you very much
[15:20] <lapaga> from 16.10?
[15:20] <kostkon> oops i thought it was 16.04
[15:21] <m47h4r> kostkon: so i must first update to 17.10? this pc isn't used in years :D
[15:22] <dekatch> put everything into home or onto some external and just do it xd. my philosophy. i cant wait if it comes to updates and such. but from normal to lts i dont know. guess you could wait for 18.10 then?
[15:22] <lapaga> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[15:23] <kostkon> m47h4r, my bad, it's not possible to upgrade from 16.10. 16.10 and 17.04 are eol so you'll have to do two eol upgrades in succession, and then another one from 17.10 to 18.04. it would probably better to just do a cliean install of 18.04
[15:24] <m47h4r> Oh that would be really dangerous, i just lost my laptop through an accident and i can't risk loosing my pc too! i guess i have to wait for now :(
[15:25] <ioria> m47h4r, dangerous why ?
[15:25] <kostkon> m47h4r, there's not waiting in your case. i mean your installation is eol already, you'll have to upgrade eventually, the sooner the better
[15:25] <ioria> m47h4r, you cannot use your yakkety anyways
[15:26] <m47h4r> ioria: risking to loose my current files, i had them both on my laptop and pc, now my laptop is gone, i must not risk anything (my files are all on one HDD and i can't afford buying one now and there isn't enough space to resize and move to another partition)
[15:28] <Jordan_U> m47h4r: Your first goal then, *right now*, is to make good backups.
[15:29] <Jordan_U> m47h4r: You should never have only one copy of any data that you consider important.
[15:29] <ikkuranus> that or get the laptop back from whoever stole it
[15:29] <m47h4r> Jordan_U: how so? backup to what medium?
[15:29] <ioria> m47h4r,  yes, i suggest a backup too
[15:29] <ioria> m47h4r,  sdcard are relatively cheap
[15:30] <Jordan_U> m47h4r: That depends on what you have available, and what you need to back up. If you can't afford an external hard drive large enough for your files right now then at least take all of your important small files, libreoffice documents, text files, etc and back them up to a free googe/dropbox/ whatever account.
[15:30] <m47h4r> i guess there isn't any other solution. i must buy some storage
[15:31] <ioria> m47h4r,  a dvd too
[15:31] <kostkon> m47h4r, depends on the size of the data you want to backup
[15:31] <ioria> m47h4r,  a couples maybe
[15:31] <kostkon> m47h4r, plenty of free cloud storage
[15:31] <m47h4r> Jordan_U: Indeed, i will do that for as much files as i can. how much free space do these services offer?
[15:33] <vivus> hello. how do I fix this error: `sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified` even after my user is added to the sudo list
[15:33] <Jordan_U> m47h4r: Google drive offers 15 GiB for free, Dropbox is 2 GiB for free.
[15:33] <Jordan_U> vivus: Are you trying to run sudo from a script or interactively?
[15:33] <m47h4r> Jordan_U: thank you, that is good
[15:33] <Jordan_U> m47h4r: You're welcome.
[15:34] <vivus> Jordan_U: I am trying "sudo apt-get update" and it gives that error
[15:34] <m47h4r> thanks all of you guys :) must go upload
[15:34] <kostkon> m47h4r, your laptop probably has a card reader. a really cheap 32bg microSD from ebay (they always come with an sd adaptor for computers) would also suffice
[15:35] <dekatch> m47h4r, kinda just expiriences the same problem. my mobo gives me some postcode errors for my cpu or something. had to switch to an older one i had lying around until i figured out whats wrong with my pc. but i atleast  got all my files and music and such on external drives.
[15:36] <dekatch> something to consider in the future. dont mix OS and private data
[15:36] <m47h4r> kostkon: i dropped my laptop this morning, i think the motherboard is damaged. ubuntu boots but right after the gdm it fails to continue and the fan speed reaches max and lots of heat. today was a really bad day for me :/
[15:37] <kostkon> m47h4r, is that the laptop or the desktop
[15:37] <kostkon> oh laptop ok
[15:37] <JimBuntu> m47h4r, sounds like the heatpipe or sink have come loose from the CPU. That's my initial guess
[15:37] <m47h4r> dekatch: well you are one step ahead of me
[15:37] <vivus> Jordan_U: any suggestions to debug this?
[15:38] <dekatch> m47h4r, 2TB mechanical drives are so cheap nowadays. not much to gain to keep up :P
[15:38] <m47h4r> JimBuntu: i opened it up myself, checked everything (visually!) but i couldn't tell what was the matter, so i left it at some Mr. Robot shop :D
[15:39] <m47h4r> dekatch: haha, well i may need to buy a new laptop, that is why i must wait for some days to figure out what happens to my love (laptop)
[15:39] <JimBuntu> m47h4r, Ok. Without removing the pipe/sink, cleaning, replacing compound and putting back together, I don't think a visual would have shown that the connection has come loose. Could be a number of different things, but that would be the first thing I checked.
[15:40] <m47h4r> JimBuntu: no no, i meant i didn't test anything (like ram check or something) i just opened all up, cleaned, and put together again
[15:41] <JimBuntu> m47h4r, Ah. Hopefully the robots treat you well. <fingers-crossed>
[15:42] <m47h4r> JimBuntu: thanks :) i hope so too
[15:44] <m47h4r> hope you all a great day, peace off fellows :)
[15:55] <lapaga> when the screensaver is activated I lose the keyboard.  The mouse still works so have to click on new user and have to log in that way.  Any thoughts on how to fix that?
[16:01] <NoImNotNineVolt> 4.4.0-36-generic vs 4.4.0-92-generic, should that make a difference when cross-compiling? :P
[16:12] <dekatch> hi, im wondering if its possible to set up pavucontrol with pre-sets for different applications. e.g. for vlc i want 5.1 and for clementine i want 2.1?
[16:13] <dekatch> so that if i start either vlc or clementine pavuvontrol will use the pre defined settings automatically without me having to do it manually
[16:15] <matjam> dekatch: I'd make a wrapper script
[16:16] <matjam> though I don't know how I'd script pavucontrol
[16:16] <matjam> maybe it has a cli interface
[16:17] <ikkuranus> I assume you're decoding the audio on that machine otherwise you wouldn't eve need to deal with that
[16:20] <dekatch> ive a crappy old mobo i guess. that soundcard isnt really 100% supported ikkuranus . dont know either how to script pavucontrol. but its possible i guess. some quick google searches at least are promising. matjam
[16:20] <dekatch> perhaps i was looking for a simplier solution  :)
[16:21] <matjam> dekatch: enjoy going down the rabbit hole. I always find, I learn something, even if I don't learn how to do what I want to do :P
[16:22] <ikkuranus> hdmi or even optical to an avr and let it auto pick what is needed
[16:22] <dekatch> matjam, well, i found https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132200 this thread. it explains how to use pulseaudio via command line. but as said. wanted something simplier. i am only on that machine until my mobo+cpu are fixed
[16:23] <dekatch> not an option on this pc ikkuranus
[16:23] <ikkuranus> too small for a cheap gpu?
[16:23] <dekatch> i have an gpu
[16:24] <dekatch> could even connect it to my avr to my living room. but thats not where my pc is :)
[16:24] <ikkuranus> ah so I was correct in assuming the pc was doing the decoding and has analog speakers
[16:25] <dekatch> yep. but i got active speakers
[16:25] <dekatch> some 5.1 system
[16:25] <ikkuranus> well yeah I'd hope it had some kind of amp
[16:26] <matjam> i see
[16:26] <dekatch> id be glad if i could control each channel seperately. pavucontrol can manage that i can listen to all 5.1 channels. but i dont seem to be able to control each channel
[16:26] <dekatch> if i lower the volume on my subwoofer it also lowers the volume overall. kind of messy.
[16:27] <dekatch> tried pavucontrol. alsa. uhm yea. well
[16:28] <ikkuranus> surely the sub has it's own physical control
[16:28] <ikkuranus> its
[16:28] <dekatch> if i go to "settings > sound" my integrated 5.1 card isnt even listed.
[16:29] <ikkuranus> like on the wood or plastic etc
[16:29] <dekatch> yep ikkuranus works very well on my other system
[16:30] <dekatch> i could control each channel on my other asus board. currently i am on some older am2 socket. and ubuntu just doesnt recognize it properly.
[16:30] <dekatch> hoped to be able to get some older drivers. but no luck so far
[16:40] <meatmanek> I'm having an issue with the ubuntu:bionic image where man page files aren't being installed by apt/dpkg
[16:40] <meatmanek> docker image*
[16:41] <meatmanek> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GF5cSSVNVP/
[16:42] <meatmanek> same thing happens if I `dpkg -i` a package
[16:43] <oerheks> meatmanek, i see manpages installed, what makes you think it is not?
[16:43] <oerheks> dpkg -L manpages # gives a list from man1 to man7
[16:43] <oerheks> or wait, man8 even..
[16:44] <meatmanek> right, it's installed, but the man page files themselves are not
[16:44] <meatmanek> (see the last 3 lines of the paste)
[16:44] <meatmanek> root@9f8e46f14544:~# man memusage
[16:44] <meatmanek> No manual entry for memusage
[16:44] <meatmanek> this doesn't just affect the manpages package - seems to affect anything that installs man pages
[16:45] <oerheks> maybe you need to logout/login again to take effect??
[16:45] <oerheks> never seen this issue, and i cannot tell manpages were not installed from your pasebin
[16:48] <Onepamopa> can someone explain why freeradius 2.2.8 installed on xenial is missing radiusd ?
[16:48] <lapaga> any thoughts on the keyboard and screensaver issue from above?
[16:49] <ioria> meatmanek, apt-utils is installed ?
[16:52] <oerheks> Onepamopa, "Note that in Debian-based systems, the server daemon is called freeradius instead of radiusd" https://wiki.freeradius.org/guide/Getting-Started
[16:52] <Onepamopa> oerheks, that must be recent ...
[16:52] <tgm4883> Onepamopa: couldn't be that recent if you're talking about 16.04
[16:53] <oerheks> Onepamopa, not sure it is, glad i found the answer
[16:53] <Onepamopa> tgm4883, actually 15.04, recently updated to 17.xx
[16:53]  * tgm4883 bows out
[16:54] <meatmanek> ioria: no, not installed
[16:55] <ioria> meatmanek, let's try
[16:55] <ioria> meatmanek, but i don't get why you needed to install manpages ...
[16:56] <meatmanek> I don't, it's just an example of a package that contains man pages
[16:56] <ioria> ha
[16:56] <oerheks> maybe docker policy, not sure.. but the story does not fit the pastebin
[16:57] <meatmanek> oerheks: dpkg -L says that the manpages package contains several files in /usr/share/man/man1, but after installing the manpages package there are no extra files in /usr/share/man/man1
[16:59] <Etrigan63> Is there a special command that needs to be typed to allow a snap to send desktop notifications?
[16:59] <meatmanek> aha
[17:00] <meatmanek> a culprit https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TgrXjrm7Bm/
[17:00] <S7R1D3R> Hey
[17:00] <S7R1D3R> Hey
[17:00] <S7R1D3R> sepi
[17:00] <S7R1D3R> exit
[17:01] <ioria> meatmanek, where that file come from ? it's not standard
[17:02] <oerheks> again  think it is a docker policy, no manpages or copyright files ?
[17:02] <oerheks> ( to keep it small )
[17:03] <Dbugger> I have a urgent problem! I cant find the LOCk option in Ubuntu 18.04
[17:03] <Dbugger> How could I enable it?
[17:04] <meatmanek> oerheks: according to https://github.com/tianon/docker-brew-ubuntu-core/issues/122#issuecomment-380517413 it comes from the tarballs published by canonical
[17:04] <ioria> meatmanek, maybe you did it yourself : p https://askubuntu.com/questions/628407/removing-man-pages-on-ubuntu-docker-installation
[17:05] <kiriuha> uoy
[17:05] <kiriuha> you
[17:05] <kiriuha> ?
[17:08] <meatmanek> that excludes file is in the tarball at https://partner-images.canonical.com/core/bionic/20180426/ubuntu-bionic-core-cloudimg-amd64-root.tar.gz
[17:08] <meatmanek> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i can work around it by just removing the excludes file
[17:13] <tgm4883> meatmanek: I'm not a docker pro or anything, but wouldn't needing the man pages inside a docker container be "doing it wrong"
[17:14] <meatmanek> we're using docker to test a package - we build our package, then spin up a new container and install it and make sure everything we expect to be there is there
[17:14] <meatmanek> including man pages
[17:15] <tgm4883> ah
[17:16] <ioria> well, considering that it has 89  packages , you need it to keep it small ... i see
[17:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> what do i have to do on my ubuntu dev box to get things i build there to run on my prod ubuntu box?
[17:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> (without segfaulting)
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> !details | NoImNotNineVolt
[17:18] <ioria> meatmanek, you can check the manifest  https://partner-images.canonical.com/core/bionic/20180426/ubuntu-bionic-core-cloudimg-amd64.manifest
[17:18] <meatmanek> yeah I understand the idea of keeping the core image small
[17:18] <NoImNotNineVolt> lotuspsychje: i have apache2 2.4.7 installed from the ubuntu repos on my 14.04 box (production). i want to build apache from source on my dev box running 14.04 and have it be binary-compatible with the one running in prod.
[17:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> lotuspsychje: specifically, i want to move mod_autoindex.so from my dev box to the prod box and have apache not segfault.
[17:19] <ioria> smaller that mini.iso
[17:19] <meatmanek> but I thought the idea was thaht you could then install whatever you wanted on top of that image
[17:20] <meatmanek> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2018/02/rfc-ubuntu-1804-lts-minimal-images.html
[17:20] <meatmanek> "The Ubuntu Minimal Image is the smallest base upon which a user can apt install any package in the Ubuntu archive."
[17:20] <ioria> meatmanek, that's not mini.iso
[17:20] <ioria> meatmanek, that is core (is different)
[17:20] <t2mkn> is something wrong with ubuntu download ? i m getting 2kbps download speed ?
[17:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> lotuspsychje: the end goal being to backport a specific feature from apache2 2.4.26 to the apache 2.4.7 i have running in production while still letting apt/dpkg handle updates.
[17:21] <kostkon> t2mkn, try the torrent
[17:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> (and yes i know subsequent updates would be likely to clobber my .so, but believe i have workarounds for that)
[17:21] <t2mkn> ok
[17:21] <kostkon> t2mkn, wait, you mean the updates?
[17:21] <dekatch> t2mkn, getting full connection speed
[17:21] <lapaga> since screensaver does not work correctly (it seems) in ubuntu-mate-18.04 is there another way to lock the screen after 5 minutes or so?
[17:22] <t2mkn> kostkon no, a fresh download of 18.04
[17:22] <kostkon> t2mkn, yeah ok, torrent is better anyway
[17:22] <t2mkn> ya seems so
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> NoImNotNineVolt: check #ubuntu-devel they might be able to help you better
[17:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> thanks for the suggestion
[17:23] <dekatch> t2mkn, as said, i am getting my fill connection speed. 5.7 megabyte. its you ! :)
[17:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> yea their topic would suggest otherwise
[17:24] <t2mkn> dekatch no
[17:25] <dekatch> t2mkn, maybe its a region issues. i am in europe
[17:25] <lapaga> try a mirror
[17:25] <d3l3k_> lapaga: you can use any other screensaver software, like gnome-screensaver... mate uses mate-screensaver, which i never had any problems for kind of 1+half year
[17:25] <t2mkn> dekatch m in asia
[17:26] <dekatch> t2mkn, yea maybe you got other mirror preselected.
[17:26] <lapaga> d3l3k_, my keyboard stops working when i try and come out of mate screensaver
[17:26] <dekatch> try dl from europe or torrent
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> lapaga: doesnt mate have energy settings?
[17:27] <d3l3k_> lapaga: but to avoid conflicts you should tweak mate configuration or init scripts (maybe mate-settings-daemon) to use the other screensaver software instead of mate-screensaver
[17:27] <lapaga> lotuspsychje, yes but that just makes the screen come alive when coming back it has no lock
[17:28] <lapaga> i am on a desktop by the way
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> lapaga: poke around in dconf-editor it might have usefull settings there
[17:28] <d3l3k_> lapaga: stupid question but are you using usb keyboard?
[17:28] <lapaga> d3l3k_, no
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> lapaga: dconf-editor has improved nicely on bionic
[17:29] <dekatch> kind of like torrenting. but no matter how hard i try. i hardly get any upload traffic having newest ubuntu releases on seed. but ubuntu got so much better. is there any statistic on how much the ubuntu users base have has grown?
[17:29] <lapaga> lotuspsychje, will give it a try
[17:33] <d3l3k_> lapaga: which keyboard bus are you using?
[17:33] <t2mkn> now i am getting max 3.3MB/s
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> lapaga: org/gnome/desktop/screensaver
[17:33] <oerheks> dekatch, no stats about ubuntu AFAIK, my seeding just went to 7.3 = 124 gb .. and slowing down over the last few days, lots of seeders i guess
[17:34] <xirg> What's a good way to securely send files to a ubuntu server on the web?
[17:34] <ask-ygU5AP56> sftp
[17:34] <lapaga> d3l3k_, not sure just a regular keyboard
[17:34] <xirg> ok
[17:34] <lapaga> lotuspsychje, will look into gnome screensaver
[17:35] <TheEagerPadawan> ok i got a good oldie in regards to questions, how do i install flash for opera and firefox. Yup, you heard me flash - old app is old
[17:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> TheEagerPadawan, in' there an app in apt's sources for it?
[17:35] <ask-ygU5AP56> like, flashplugin-installer or so ?
[17:36] <oerheks> TheEagerPadawan, use the restricted extras package, that includes 'old' flash, but flash is dead, use html5 if you can
[17:36] <ask-ygU5AP56> what oerheks wrote
[17:36] <d3l3k_> lapaga: if you want a more standalone solution you can try xscreensaver too
[17:38] <Slown> Hello gyus
[17:38] <Slown> just a question, how to activate the numeric keypad on the latest version
[17:38] <elfman> hey guys
[17:38] <Slown> the doc is based on unity
[17:38] <Slown> so If someone knows
[17:41] <d3l3k_> Slown: maybe input settings?
[17:42] <Slown> what do you mean ?
[17:42] <xirg> If I'm using ftp to add files to my /var/www directory, should I chown the directory to my ftp user?
[17:42] <xirg> sftp*
[17:44] <d3l3k_> Slown: opening up the settings app and looking for the (probably existing) keypad options inside input section
[17:44] <Slown> no I'm talking abouut enabling numeric keypad on startup
[17:46] <ducasse> Slown: try installing numlockx, then reboot
[17:46] <ducasse> Slown: or log out then back in
[17:47] <d3l3k_> i would recommend it too
[17:47] <d3l3k_> if it doesn't start automatically add this to your ~/.profile
[17:48] <d3l3k_> [ -x /usr/bin/numlockx ] && /usr/bin/numlockx on
[17:48] <Slown> yes, I installed it
[17:48] <Slown> ok, thank you for the answer
[17:48] <Slown> I'll try this
[17:49] <ducasse> it installs a session script, so you shouldn't need to do anything else
[17:49] <Slown> no, it doesn't work
[17:50] <Slown> I need to add the config that d3l3k_ provide me earlier
[17:51] <Molt> Hey everyone. I just installed 18.04 LTS and am having an interesting issue. In my environment (windows server 2012) we usually set a reservation for a machine's MAC with DHCP. For some reason my ubuntu 18.04 machine won't resolve the IP address from the reservation set in DHCP in Server 2012 R2. I've noticed others have had this iss (I can post link). Anyone familiar with this / have a fix?
[17:51] <ducasse> Slown: put it in ~/.xsessionrc instead, better than .profile
[17:52] <wh0ami> good night
[17:52] <Molt> here is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/netplan/+bug/1738998
[17:58] <farstar> how do i update the repos?
[17:59] <farstar> the command
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> farstar: sudo apt update
[17:59] <farstar> ah thanks
[18:00] <vikasAdiwal> this is my first ever irc message
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> vikasAdiwal: welcome, you joined the ubuntu support channel
[18:00] <d3l3k_> farstar: i dunno if it happens only with me, but sometimes sudo apt update doesn't update all repos... in these cases i need to run sudo apt-get update to effectively update them
[18:01] <farstar> no i did not
[18:01] <farstar> i use puppylinux
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> farstar: we only support ubuntu here
[18:02] <farstar> yes i also installed bubtu lately
[18:03] <farstar> buntu*
[18:07] <farstar> thank you lotuspsychje
[18:09] <texla> When will 18.04 be available from the update manager
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | texla
[18:10] <genii> texla: If you mean from 16.04, then yes, after the first point release ( 18.04.1 ) as the bot's factoid indicates
[18:11] <Ezro> Does anyone have a recommendation for a mini pcie wifi + bt card? I'm using the Intel 8260 right now and it's complete trash.
[18:11] <Ezro> I was thinking of going to the Intel 7260, but I was wondering if there was something newer (read: better) out there.
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: you mean good working on ubuntu?
[18:12] <Ezro> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu / linux in general
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: check here: https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[18:14] <Guest70878> hello, someone using ubuntu can tell me if i can install compiz config and pley with it?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Guest70878: are you on unity?
[18:14] <Guest70878> ubuntu 18.04
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> Guest70878: well i didnt test myself yet, so not sure it will work on the 18.04 unity
[18:16] <Jordan_U> Guest70878: You could use Compiz with an XFCE session if you wanted, but in my humble opinion Compiz is no longer very well maintained and is not very reliable. I don't think the eye candy is worth the trouble.
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> Guest70878: we have users reported to have installed unity on 18.04
[18:19] <Guest70878> ok
[18:19] <Guest70878> i just wanted the wobbly effect. :(
[18:19] <d3l3k_> btw will the upgrade from 16.04 with built-in unity to 18.04.1 install gnome env?
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> Guest70878: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2388541
[18:20] <Squarism> I want to upgrade from 17.04 to 18.04. Ive understood that its not trivial as 17.04 is EOL? Or is it simple?
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> d3l3k_: yes
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> Squarism: 17.04 has been eol some time, so i would not trust my system anymore install 18.04 clean?
[18:21] <d3l3k_> lotuspsychje: but unity should keep installed and working won't it? :p
[18:21] <Ezro> lotuspsychje: I can see that it's listed as supported, but the wifi is almost unusable.
[18:21] <Ezro> Would it make sense for me to remove the other iwlwifi firmwares in /lib/firmware that don't correspond to my card?
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> d3l3k_: i dont think so, as 18.04 install unity another way
[18:22] <d3l3k_> i fear lightdm will be replaced with gdm
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: is your system up to date?
[18:22] <pragmaticenigma> d3l3k_: Unity has been removed from the default configuration of Ubuntu starting with 17.10. I would recommend a clean install since an upgrade from 17.04 to 18.04 has not been officially tested
[18:22] <Ezro> Ya. I just updated it yestserday.
[18:22] <ducasse> Squarism: just follow the link i gave you in -discuss, it tells you what to do
[18:22] <Ezro> I actually don't even see the firmware in there: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005511/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking.html
[18:22] <Ezro> iwlwifi-8000-ucode-25.30.13.0.tgz is what I'm looking for.
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: you could test another kernel too, see if it performs better there?
[18:23] <Ezro> I see a bunch of iwlwifi-8000C-13/16/21/22/27/31/34.ucode
[18:23] <Ezro> It's actually been crap on every distro I've tried. I was using Elementary, then Manjaro, and now Ubuntu.
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: define, whats not working properly?
[18:24] <Squarism> ducasse, yeah I read that - but it looked sort of at-your-risk/not-supported?
[18:24] <Ezro> It's barely stable. It'll often disconnect and reconnect.
[18:24] <Ezro> If I move more than 5ft from my WAP, it disconnects.
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> !usn | Squarism when system is eol
[18:24] <Squarism> 404
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: use a cable/ wifi extender?
[18:25] <ducasse> Squarism: that is the official way to do it
[18:25] <bray90820_> How would I upgrade 16.04 to 18.04 from the terminal
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | bray90820_
[18:25] <Ezro> lotuspsychje: My network at home is a regular modem + WAP. Right now I'm trying to connect to my phone's hotspot.
[18:25] <Ezro> I have to keep my phone directly next to my laptop or it disconnects.
[18:26] <Ezro> And even with my phone hotspot next to my laptop, it still underperforms heavily.
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: you sure its not your connection/isp that lags, instead of wifi/ubuntu?
[18:26] <Ezro> 100% positive.
[18:26] <Ezro> I have other laptops / devices that can 1) see networks that this laptop can't see 2) connect and stay connected without issue
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: well if you so sure its your hardware, ubuntu cant make a new one out of it
[18:27] <Ezro> I'm wondering if it's the firmware, though. I can see that the firmware I'm -supposed- to be using (according to intel.com) isn't in my /lib/firmware folder.
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> Ezro: perhaps you can take a look in a tail -f /var/log/syslog and see whats going on exactly?
[18:27] <Ezro> So I'm wondering if it's defaulting to the wrong card.
[18:34] <Squarism> damn "Software & updates" just crashes when i start it
[18:35] <Squarism> oh no it doesnt
[18:36] <erazerazer> hi. What is the name of the ubuntu installer ? it is to fill a bug report against the package
[18:37] <brainwash> !info ubiquity
[18:39] <erazerazer> brainwash: ok. thanks
[18:40] <erazerazer> brainwash: the name has not changed for 18.04 ? I mean is it not a new installer ? I think I read something like that
[18:40] <brainwash> should be the same thing
[18:40] <brainwash> !info ubiquity bionic
[18:44] <erazerazer> ok. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1769724
[18:46] <Squarism> if i do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will it upgrade to 17.10 or 18.04?
[18:47] <Squarism> ..when running 17.04 atm?
[18:47] <leftyfb> no
[18:48] <leftyfb> !eol | Squarism
[18:48] <Squarism> i somehow got some upgrade to 17.10 going
[18:48] <Squarism> see you on the other side ... hopefully
[18:49] <leftyfb> Squarism: if you did nothing other than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, then it is not upgrading to you to 17.10 or 18.04
[18:49] <tgm4883> Squarism: dist-upgrade would never upgrade you to the next release
[18:49] <tgm4883> well, unless you intentionally did some bad things
[18:50] <Squarism> i got some prompt after running that promptin me to upgrade. So i guess its the "sudo do-release-upgrade" part
[18:59] <SoniEx2> so uh how do I run Ubuntu without cgroups?
[19:00] <SoniEx2> and I guess without namespaces as well?
[19:08] <sebsebsebb>  
[19:08] <sebsebsebb> sebsebseb
[19:09] <leftyfb> sebsebsebb: can we help you with something?
[19:19] <bowzzer> heus
[19:20] <NoImNotNineVolt> trusty has apache2 2.4.7, but `apt-get source apache2` on trusty gives me source for 2.4.10. what's up with that?
[19:21] <ioria> is trusty-backports
[19:21] <NoImNotNineVolt> wat
[19:22] <krytarik> I.e. check your sources.
[19:22] <NoImNotNineVolt> aha, yup.
[19:23] <tomreyn> !info apache2 trusty
[19:23] <tomreyn> vs
[19:23] <tomreyn> !info apache2 trusty-backports
[19:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> i see. makes sense.
[19:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> but, i'm not sure what the distinction is between those two repos in this context.
[19:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> does apache2 in trusty not get backported security fixes?
[19:24] <tomreyn> it does
[19:24] <NoImNotNineVolt> so then.. what's the difference? :P
[19:24] <krytarik> !backports
[19:24] <tomreyn> but not features, so you have the option to use the backports instead, which ius a newer version and benefits of newer features
[19:25] <oerheks> .. backports  would be standard enabled
[19:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> but what's in backports is still ancient :P
[19:25] <ioria> NoImNotNineVolt, you need to read the changelog, i guess
[19:25] <oerheks> ancient, in features, not bugfixes
[19:25] <oerheks> :_D
[19:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> i mean, there's a "feature" in 2.4.26 that's actually a bugfix for an issue introduced in 2.4.0
[19:25] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm trying to pull it into my 14.04 box.
[19:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> but i'm considering doing the paperwork to get it backported (the patch is super tiny)
[19:26] <oerheks> i would not do that, 16.04 uses systemd.. that means recompile
[19:26] <NoImNotNineVolt> (this is all 14.04, no systemd)
[19:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> (though i could also do the paperwork to get it backported to 16.04 -- the fix doesn't make it into lts until 18.04)
[19:27] <NoImNotNineVolt> point being, what should i be generating my patches against? trusty? or trusty-backports?
[19:28] <Some_Person> Is there any application for ubuntu that can read texts from a cell phone over Bluetooth MAP?
[19:29] <tomreyn> trusty has less than one year of support left, it's not too likely that much efforts will be spent on backporting changes to it which upstream does not consider bugs.
[19:29] <tomreyn> maybe try with 16.04, but it'd probably help to convince upstream to consider it a bug if they currently dont
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> Some_Person: Not at this time
[19:30] <Some_Person> pragmaticenigma: Ah... shame
[19:39] <thinky> hi there
[19:40] <thinky> how can i upgrade to 18.04 in ubuntu bash on windows?
[19:41] <thinky> version still shows 14.04
[19:42] <BerenErchamion> Are there ubuntu forums that can give you the most up-to-date information about proprietary problems relating to the ubuntu version of the chromium browser?
[19:44] <Lantizia> hey if I install Ubuntu 18.04 on my macbook pro (with macOS on - like it comes as normal)... in terms of booting... will it just work like it might with a PC with windows?  e.g. grub will install as normal and you'll get that bootloader than can just chainload macos?
[19:44] <Lantizia> and p.s. I *want* that to happen - i don't mind grub being the first thing the mac does on power on ... with linux being default - and someone having to pick macos from it
[19:45] <Lantizia> i know on a windows pc it's often easier to put windows on first... the ubuntu on second  ... and bingo it just works and picks it up - is it that easy on a mac?
[19:46] <Bashing-om> !dualboot | Lantizia Does this help ?
[19:47] <Lantizia> the 2nd link might - just reading it now
[19:47] <oerheks> !mac
[19:47] <oerheks> yes, it is as easy
[19:48] <pragmaticenigma> BerenErchamion: There is no "Ubuntu version" of the chromium browser. There is a Chromium Browswer that is packaged and distributed throug the package manager. It is still the same Chromium that can be downloaded from the developers site.
[19:48] <Lantizia> oerheks, so grub will just get straight in there and sort it out essentially?
[19:50] <BerenErchamion> Then why do the people in ##linux say there are Debian and ubuntu versions of the Chromium Browser, if there's only one version of that software?
[19:50] <pragmaticenigma> BerenErchamion: With the question that you asked, they probably aren't sure what you are after either
[19:51] <Lantizia> BerenErchamion, the Chromium team don't package Chromium (unlike Google who does package Chrome)... so there is a Debian packaged one and a Ubuntu packaged one
[19:51] <Lantizia> But since Ubuntu forks Debian, it is very likely what compile options were used on the Debian one - have been used on the Ubuntu one
[19:51] <pragmaticenigma> Lantizia: The "packages" are only builds, they built from the same source code offered on Chromium's developer site
[19:51] <Lantizia> pragmaticenigma, yeah obviously :)
[19:51] <testalf> hi
[19:52] <en1gma> im running ubuntu 18.04 lts on my intel x86_64 laptop. i just added a wifi pci express card and ubuntu recognizes the bluetooth part but not the wifi. well at least the network manager dont understand it anyhow
[19:52] <en1gma> i think it is detected with lspci
[19:52] <testalf> how can enable lz4 initframs in ubuntu 18.04?
[19:52] <BerenErchamion> My concern is that there may be proprietary software downloaded and installed along with the Chromium package without my consent, and the ##linux people say that's not a problem with the Debian package, but may be a problem with the ubuntu package version of the Chromium browser
[19:52] <oerheks> BerenErchamion, build for debian is different indeed, a few changes like package versions and patches .. https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/chromium-browser <> https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/chromium
[19:52] <genii> Extensions on Debian Chromium are disabled by default, for the same reason that they have Iceweasel instead of firefox
[19:53] <Lantizia> oerheks, should I be concerned that this list doesn't contain "14,1" which is apparently my model number? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[19:53] <en1gma> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zdBCcVdpvS/  this is my lspci
[19:53] <oerheks> "there may be proprietary software downloaded "  is a hoax
[19:53] <pragmaticenigma> BerenErchamion: There are additional proprietary components added the Chromium package.
[19:53] <pragmaticenigma> ugh
[19:53] <pragmaticenigma> BerenErchamion: There are *NO* additional proprietary components added the Chromium package.
[19:53] <Lantizia> lol
[19:54] <en1gma> how do i enable my wifi so i can select wifi networks in the network manager
[19:54] <pragmaticenigma> BerenErchamion: Chromium will seek out plugins for playback of proprietary formats, if they are already installed on the computer (i.e. Flash, PDF readers, etc)
[19:55] <pragmaticenigma> Lantizia: The effects of reading chat while trying to reply :-(
[19:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> wow, which deb does apache2's mod_autoindex end up packaging into? didn't realize apache2 had so many subpackages
[19:57] <NoImNotNineVolt> apache2-bin probably, nm.
[19:57] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: $ apt-file search mod_autoindex
[19:57] <leftyfb> apache2-bin: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_autoindex.so
[19:58] <NoImNotNineVolt> clever.
[19:59] <lxq> How to make num lock enabled on LUKS passphrase prompt?
[20:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> hm. still segfaults.
[20:04] <bray90820_> Is there a way I could add a folder or a mounted drive to the gnome side pannel in 18.04
[20:06] <Ezro> Hey everyone. I'm looking into my wifi issue some more, and noticed the following in my /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf:
[20:06] <Ezro> remove iwlwifi \ (/sbin/lsmod | grep -o -e ^iwlmvm -e ^iwldvm -e ^iwlwifi | xargs /sbin/rmmod) \ && /sbin/modprobe -r mac80211
[20:06] <Etrigan63> Can someone reply to this message so I can see if desktop notifications are working?
[20:06] <Ezro> Should I have that if I know that my wifi is supported by iwlwifi directly?
[20:06] <Ezro> Etrigan63: test
[20:07] <Etrigan63> Thanks. They are not working. Is there any trick getting a snap to send desktop notifications?
[20:07] <leftyfb> Etrigan63: try #snappy
[20:09] <Etrigan63> Thanks. I found the problem. Only nofitifes when it lacks focus. Silly me.
[20:16] <brainwash> Ezro: does it cause problems?
[20:20] <Ezro> brainwash: I think so. My wifi is completely unusable. I was just in a meeting and it couldn't even scan my phone hotspot.
[20:20] <Ezro> I tried removing that line completely and my wifi no longer worked at all, so I added it back.
[20:21] <brainwash> which chip is that?
[20:23] <brainwash> usually one gets some solutions when searching the web for "linux + wifi chip name"
[20:24] <oerheks> lspci would tell
[20:24] <lapaga> Additional drivers can help if you have not already
[20:25] <oerheks> so you wonder why the driver changed, and does not work when you remove that line..
[20:30] <enyc> Hrrrrrrrrrrrrrm...  http://packages.ubuntu.com  refers to trusty with (14.04LTS) and xenial with (16.04LTS) but doesn't do the same for bionic....?!?!?
[20:30] <flashmozzg> hello, is there a way to find the last time the apt package was update? Not locally, but in the ppa
[20:31] <kostkon> !details | enyc
[20:31] <kostkon> flashmozzg, which PPA
[20:31] <flashmozzg> Or better: is there a way to install the version of the package that was up before certain dat?
[20:31] <theseb> LVM question.....lvmdiskscan shows /dev/sdb1 but I know how to use lvresize -L 80G --resizefs ??? because it doesn't accept /dev/sdb1 for ???
[20:31] <Ezro> brainwash: 'Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a)' - from lspci
[20:32] <flashmozzg> kostkon: any. But generally the default ubuntu ones
[20:32] <kostkon> flashmozzg, no, only either the latest offered by PPA or the latest from the repos
[20:32] <kostkon> the*
[20:32] <flashmozzg> kostkon: I have a problem when a lib suddenly stopped building for me on both Ubuntu 16.04 and 14.04, while it was building just fine just a few months ago
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> flashmozzg  better contact the owner of the ppa
[20:34] <flashmozzg> It has like 19-20 package dependencies and I'm not sure what to do and how to solve this issue. So I was thinking of at least finding all packages that were updated during that timeframe and trying to revert them to earlier version and see if it helps
[20:34] <kostkon> flashmozzg, ok you might want to try this. a bit manual but might work in your case https://askubuntu.com/a/92021/1651
[20:34] <enyc> kostkon: ok, try  http://packages.ubuntu.com/e2fsprogs  for example... you will see the (18.04LTS) text is missing...?
[20:35] <kostkon> enyc, you mean the package description?
[20:35] <enyc> kostkon: no, literally on that page text you get back, where it refers to multiple distro versions
[20:35] <flashmozzg> MonkeyDust: of what ppa? I don't know what ppa has caused the issue. I'm not 100% it's even caused by PPA, but the lib was definitely working before, and I tried with the latest version and the old ones which were definitely building.
[20:36] <enyc> kostkon: under Exact Hits -> package e2fsprogs -> etc etc...  you will see  trusty (14.04LTS)   xenial (16.04LTS) etc.
[20:36] <enyc> kostkon: whatever magic generaets (.....LTS) text isn't working for 'bionic'
[20:36] <brainwash> Ezro: maybe 11n_disable can help
[20:37] <kostkon> enyc, that's only for e2fsprogs-dbg? it means that it isn't available on newer releases for some reason
[20:37] <enyc> kostkon: it could be any package
[20:37] <brainwash> Ezro: you are on 18.04, right?
[20:37] <Ezro> brainwash: Technically, yes. But I'm running Sway 0.15.0
[20:37] <flashmozzg> MonkeyDust: all packages I use come from default Ubuntu ppas/repos.
[20:37] <enyc> kostkon: http://packages.ubuntu.com/sl  for example ...  NOT in the package description
[20:38] <kostkon> enyc, you might want to delete your web cache and restart your browser
[20:38] <Ezro> brainwash: Also, I tried adding "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 swcrypto=1" and that also didn't help.
[20:38] <brainwash> Ezro: so, you have the latest firmware for that chip already I'd think
[20:38] <enyc> kostkon: its' server-generated text
[20:38] <enyc> kostkon: can you not yourself, see where it is saying (14.04LTS) in the restant text//list you get back?
[20:38] <brainwash> Ezro: I see "11n_disable=8" mentioned on the internet
[20:39] <Ezro> brainwash: Let me try 8
[20:39] <kostkon> enyc, i've lost the plot sorry. i hae no idea what you are talking about lol
[20:40] <brainwash> Ezro: "11n_disable:disable 11n functionality, bitmap: 1: full, 2: disable agg TX, 4: disable agg RX, 8 enable agg TX"
[20:40] <enyc> kostkon: right, can you, yourself load webpage  http://packages.ubuntu.com/dash  ?
[20:41] <kostkon> enyc, i see "bionic" everywhere on that page
[20:41] <brainwash> Ezro: do you see this issue with different wireless networks?
[20:41] <enyc> kostkon: but look where it says trusty and xenial
[20:42] <Ezro> brainwash: Ya. It randomly disconnects form my network at home, and it won't even scan my phone's hotspot anymore.
[20:42] <enyc> kostkon: trusty (14.04LTS)
[20:42] <kostkon> enyc, same text everywhere just different versions
[20:42] <enyc> kostkon: no, can you SEEE where it says (14.04LTS)  specifically ?
[20:42] <brainwash> Ezro: anymore?
[20:42] <kostkon> enyc, yeah so?
[20:42] <enyc> kostkon: it does for xenial (16.04LTS) too
[20:43] <Ezro> brainwash: I had the hotspot briefly (slowly) working earlier today, but it's been very hit or miss.
[20:43] <enyc> kostkon: but the "(18.04LTS)" text is MISSING
[20:43] <Ezro> It just took a bit, but it was able to scan and connect to my hotspot.
[20:43] <kostkon> enyc, oh right. is that really that important though
[20:43] <kostkon> enyc, you can file a bug report, probably
[20:44] <kostkon> enyc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/pkg-website/+filebug
[20:44] <enyc> kostkon: its certainly inconsistenct, the (14.04LTS) etc. text was clearly added for some reason, for clarity presumbly.
[20:45] <Ezro> brainwash: With my phone (and hotspot) directly next to my laptop, I'm pinging google for ridiculously inconsistent times. As low as 64, as high as 950+.
[20:45] <kostkon> enyc, it is i guess. hopefully if you file a report they will fix it
[20:46] <brainwash> Ezro: not too sure what to suggest. I would test with an older ubuntu live cd/usb, and see if that works better. maybe even test with a different distribution.
[20:46] <niranjan> Hi, where can I find the configure settings used by Ubuntu to build squid. I want to build exactly like ubuntu package build is done but with additional flag of --with-openssl
[20:46] <Ezro> brainwash: I've actually tried with ElementaryOS and Manjaro XFCE prior to installing Ubuntu. It's been absolute trash in all of them.
[20:46] <Ezro> That's why I was looking to get a different mini pcie card.
[20:46] <brainwash> Ezro: =S
[20:47] <leftyfb> Ezro: did they all have the same issue?
[20:47] <Ezro> leftyfb: For the most part, ya.
[20:47] <leftyfb> Ezro: then your issue is not ubuntu related. It's upstream driver/kernel related.
[20:47] <Ezro> Very inconsistent WiFi connection, with random disconnects, and extremely weak signal strength when moving a few feet.
[20:47] <leftyfb> Ezro: you should file a bug upstream
[20:48] <nacc> niranjan: see the source package
[20:49] <Ezro> leftyfb: Would that be with Intel? I'm not sure what filing a bug upstream means.
[20:49] <Ezro> Also, I'm still not convinced that I'm using the correct FW for my wifi card.
[20:49] <brainwash> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi/debugging
[20:50] <niranjan> @nacc, thanks, was confused, but google pointed my nose.
[20:50] <leftyfb> Ezro: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=firmware-iwlwifi;dist=unstable
[20:50] <nacc> niranjan: np
[20:51] <mniip> in the ubuntu liveusb, is it possible to overwrite the drive from which the liveusb was booted?
[20:52] <brainwash> leftyfb: wouldn't that require the bug reporter to actually test with debian?
[20:52] <mniip> i.e is the system copied into RAM first or is it read from the drive as needed
[20:52] <leftyfb> brainwash: no. Debian is our upstream.
[20:52] <niranjan> nacc: apt-get source squid3 returns Unable to find a source package for squid3
[20:53] <niranjan> Do i need to install squid first?
[20:53] <nacc> niranjan: you need to setup deb-src lines in your sources.list
[20:53] <nacc> niranjan: our use `pull-lp-source`
[20:54] <nacc> mniip: you mean once you've booted into the installer? why would you want to?
[20:54] <Dbugger> Fellas, is there a way to test the emojis now showing in the terminal? :)
[20:54] <mniip> if I only have on usb drive
[20:54] <dan01> Hi, I want to buy a new laptop, and I'd really like to be as compatible as possible with Linux. When it comes to graphics cards. How is the status of hybrid graphics in Ubuntu? Or should I avoid having a dedicated GPU at all?
[20:54] <mniip> one*
[20:55] <niranjan> @nacc, stackoverflow search - sudo sed -Ei 's/^# deb-src/deb-src/' /etc/apt/sources.list. Something like this?
[20:55] <nacc> niranjan: presuming that's how your sources.list is structured
[20:55] <mniip> I vaguely remember the debian liveusb using overlayfs of a tempfs with a squashfs?
[20:56] <nacc> mniip: so you don't want to install to your HDD?
[20:56] <mniip> and I think squashfs doesn't need the disk after the initial boot process?
[20:56] <mniip> nacc, I'm not using the installer
[20:56] <mniip> rather the liveusb
[20:56] <nacc> mniip: so you just want to use your liveusb once?
[20:56] <mniip> yes
[20:56] <nacc> mniip: never going to reboot, never going to install?
[20:56] <mniip> wondering if it's possible to dd onto the same drive as the liveusb is running from
[20:57] <nacc> mniip: not sure why that would be a use-case, but i'm not confident that it's fully loaded into memory
[20:59] <IntelCore> Hi.. I see Wayland, and tried it on 16.04 Gnome desktop, but it did not load.
[21:01] <IntelCore> Does it need Xfce ?
[21:01] <nacc> IntelCore: Wayland does not need Xfce that's the wrong way around anyways
[21:01] <nacc> IntelCore: did you mean Xorg?
[21:02] <IntelCore> Not sure?  Don't know about Wayland
[21:02] <kostkon> IntelCore, you sure it was on 16.04?
[21:02] <nacc> IntelCore: why are you trying to use Wayland?
[21:04] <Squarism> is it adviseable to install gnome-shell-extensions on 17.10 using wayland?
[21:04] <kostkon> IntelCore, 16.04 is not the best release for testing wayland. 17.10 or 18.04 have a much better support for wayland
[21:04] <nacc> well, tbh, i wouldn't bother using wayland
[21:04] <nacc> it's still a tech preview
[21:04] <nacc> (in 18.04)
[21:04] <kostkon> nacc, that's true as well
[21:04] <theseb> gparted and fdisk -l say /dev/sda1 is 80Gb but when I do "df -h" is says the old 15Gb size from before I resized it in gparted..why?
[21:05] <theseb> (using LVM)
[21:05] <brainwash> "tech preview"
[21:05] <nacc> Squarism: not sure your underlying windowing server should matter for that package
[21:05] <IntelCore> I just did not know what Wayland was. I have -Metacity and Gnome and a Compiz desktop to choose from
[21:05] <Ezro> leftyfb brainwash I'm noticing that I have iwlwifi drivers in /lib/firmware, but I don't have a firmware-iwlwifi package.
[21:06] <nacc> IntelCore: Wayland is a new windowing server, replacing Xorg (eventually)
[21:06] <kostkon> IntelCore, it's much more than just a different DE or compositor as you might have found out already
[21:06] <Ezro> My apt-get doesn't recognize firmware-iwlwifi as a package.
[21:06] <brainwash> Ezro: you have linux-firmware
[21:06] <IntelCore> Where I log-on, I click the icon, and can choose. And Wayland is there now.
[21:06] <nacc> IntelCore: it's a session type
[21:06] <nacc> IntelCore: you can use either Xorg or Wayland in some releases
[21:06] <IntelCore> mmhmm.. yes nacc
[21:06] <nacc> IntelCore: Wayland is not yet feature complete with Xorg
[21:07] <Ezro> brainwash: What does that mean?
[21:07] <IntelCore> oic, nacc.  Wont work in 16.04
[21:07] <brainwash> Ezro: these firmware files are installed by linux-firmware
[21:08] <nickjj> this is going to sound weird but can someone on ubuntu please goto https://code.visualstudio.com/insiders/ and paste a link to download the insiders version of vscode?
[21:08] <NoImNotNineVolt> okay, i have a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 and i can't get apache2's configure script to run.
[21:08] <NoImNotNineVolt> configure: error: No XML parser found!  Please specify --with-expat or --with-libxml2
[21:08] <nacc> IntelCore: i didn't say that, exactly
[21:08] <brainwash> Ezro: also, a brand new file is available "iwlwifi: update firmwares for 7000, 8000 and 9000 series"
[21:08] <NoImNotNineVolt> i have satisfactory versions of expat and libxml installed.
[21:08] <IntelCore> roh, I gotta use Synaptic to remove it
[21:08] <nickjj> it's weird because vscode's home page is broken on windows, the link to download the linux version is just a broken link
[21:08] <brainwash> Ezro: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/linux-firmware.git/tree/
[21:08] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: why are you building apache2 fro source?
[21:08] <kostkon> NoImNotNineVolt, why 14.04 and not 18.04?
[21:08] <brainwash> Ezro: iwlwifi-8000C-36.ucode
[21:08] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: you need the development files, anyways
[21:09] <brainwash> Ezro: download and copy it to /lib/firmware
[21:09] <Ezro> brainwash: Do I just copy that *-36.ucode into my /lib/firmware then restart?
[21:09] <brainwash> Ezro: right
[21:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> nacc: to backport a fix from 2.4.25
[21:09] <IntelCore> nacc, I read where wayland was in 16.04, but I never saw what it was, and wanted to see it.
[21:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> nacc: i have libxml2-dev installed... is there a dev for expat?
[21:10] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: i'm sure there is
[21:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> libexpat1-dev
[21:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed.
[21:10] <brainwash> Ezro: however, it's a binary file, and I don't think that intel tells us what was changed
[21:10] <brainwash> Ezro: unless bugs were fixed
[21:10] <NoImNotNineVolt> kostkon: because the fix is already included in 18.04
[21:11] <Ezro> brainwash: How can I confirm that my Ubuntu is actually using *-36.ucode instead of another FW?
[21:11] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: did you file a bug with Ubuntu?
[21:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> nacc: i'm hoping to contribute backport patches myself
[21:11] <NoImNotNineVolt> upsteam debian won't lift a finger.
[21:11] <bray90820_> Is there a way I could add a folder or a mounted drive to the gnome side pannel in 18.04
[21:11] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: ok, then you should be building a source package
[21:11] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: what does debian have to do with anything?
[21:12] <NoImNotNineVolt> nacc: that's the upstream.
[21:12] <IntelCore> -- Another thing. I want to put the18.04 iso on a usb that has 64GB space. Do I use the current OS to format the USB?  How's that work?
[21:12] <NoImNotNineVolt> or at least that's my understanding.
[21:13] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: I know what Debian is (I'm an Ubuntu developer)
[21:13] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: Debian doesn't have anything to do with lready released with versions of Ubuntu
[21:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> so when debian backports patches, those don't get pulled in to ubuntu?
[21:13] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: no.
[21:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> o_O
[21:13] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: at least, not necessarily
[21:14] <IntelCore> Caniocal
[21:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> i mean, i was just talking to infinity about this earlier, and his initial reaction was to talk to debian also.
[21:14] <brainwash> Ezro: mmh. a simple "dmesg | grep iwlwifi" will tell you probably
[21:14] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: filing a bug with Debian is appropriate
[21:14] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: but fixing something in Debian won't make it magically appear in Ubuntu
[21:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> nacc: indeed, with wishlist priority, which means it wouldn't get backported anyway.
[21:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's not a security fix.
[21:14] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: you just said it was fixed in 18.04?
[21:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's fixed in apache2 2.4.26 and later, which doesn't show up in an lts ubuntu until 18.04, right.
[21:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> but 18.04 isn't an option for me yet, so i'm trying to backport it to 14.04 (and possibly 16.04).
[21:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's a small patch.
[21:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> in any case, this is more a learning experience for me than anything else. i really thought backports in upstream would get pulled in.
[21:16] <IntelCore> With Wayland, this landscape has changed drastically. Now instead there is no X server between clients and GNOME Shell
[21:17] <nacc> IntelCore: who are you talking to?
[21:17] <IntelCore> ME? I am weirding
[21:17] <nacc> IntelCore: please take your 'weirding' elsewhere then
[21:17] <IntelCore> aww
[21:17] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: I see (just read backlog in #ubuntu-devel)
[21:18] <kostkon> IntelCore, http://etcher.io/
[21:18] <nacc> NoImNotNineVolt: infinity said to check that Debian fixes it too, but that is unrelated to your SRU attempts
[21:18] <lapion> does anyone have any idea when lts upgrade kicks in in the updater ?
[21:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed, i talked to some debian folks, and it doesn't really meet their criteria for backporting. which is fine.
[21:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> it's already fixed in vanilla apache, it's just a matter of when that fix gets into repos :P
[21:19] <IntelCore> etcher . kool kostkon
[21:20] <kostkon> IntelCore, kewl
[21:20] <tomreyn> lapion: *roughly* when 18.04.1 releases, maybe aroun djuly
[21:20] <lapion> cool....
[21:20] <zenox> i just installed 18.04 server. why do i see notices about Cloud-init? what is it for and how do i disable it?
[21:22] <nacc> zenox: http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html
[21:22] <nacc> zenox: it doesn't really do much if you're not using it, no need to disable it
[21:24] <zenox> mhh. i saw a load of ssh keys generated and the details whizz by on screen
[21:26] <lapion> thanks tomreyn
[21:26] <cluelessperson> hey, I have a low end pc here, 4GB ram that I'd like to run ubuntu on, but it seems slow
[21:27] <cluelessperson> is there any way to lower the graphics/prettyness of ubuntu?
[21:27] <SlidingHorn> cluelessperson: there are lower-resource versions (xubuntu, lubuntu), also you can use a lighter WM
[21:28] <cluelessperson> SlidingHorn: :/  I like ubuntu how it is though
[21:28] <cluelessperson> I was wondering if I coud turn off pretty things, like transparency or something
[21:28]  * cluelessperson checks that graphics drivers are used
[21:28] <jordino> hi can anyone help me? i just got a new tp link
[21:29] <jordino> usb adapter
[21:29] <cluelessperson> jordino: help with what
[21:29] <jordino> TL-N8200
[21:29] <jordino> BUT IS JUST NOR
[21:29] <jordino> its just not "working"
[21:29] <jordino> like not being active or something
[21:29] <jordino> =(
[21:29] <jordino> dont know what else todo
[21:29] <jordino> =(
[21:31] <jordino> i already tried to install via git hub and so but... dont seems to work
[21:31] <jordino> not wireless networks show up
[21:31] <jordino> so please can anyone please help me?
[21:31] <oerheks> jordino, what details are in 'lsusb' for that device?
[21:32] <oerheks> .. and ubuntu version, and so on
[21:32] <IntelCore> cluelessperson - 16.04 desktop lets me choose Unity, Unity-Gnome, Unity-Compiz, and I just tried Wayland on x11(did not work)
[21:33] <jordino> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mfPZDpXDZ7/ that ones oerheks
[21:33] <jordino> xubuntu 17
[21:33] <IntelCore> cluelessperson - There is a gnmoe-metacity, try it
[21:33] <IntelCore> *gnome
[21:33] <dan01> Anyone here using a laptop with hybrid graphics on Ubuntu? D:
[21:34] <pavlos> jordino: should there be a a W in front of the N8200?
[21:34] <IntelCore> intel?
[21:34] <jordino> yes pavlos it is tl-wn8200nd
[21:34] <SlidingHorn> dan01: just ask your actual question - If someone knows the answer, they'll respond.  Be sure to include as much relevant detail as possible, and on one line :)
[21:34] <pavlos> jordino: much better ...
[21:35] <oerheks> the famous RTL8192EU
[21:35] <jordino> yes i've read no good news about it oerheks
[21:37] <IntelCore> dan01 - not the proprietary ones (nvidia, fglrx)
[21:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> installer removed the option for utc in xenial vs trusty :\
[21:40] <Ezro> brainwash: I copied the 36.ucode into the folder but it's not using it. It's still using 8000C-34
[21:40] <Ezro> I think.
[21:42] <jordino> so... any ideas oerheks pavlos
[21:42] <jordino> ?
[21:43] <D_A_N> Does anyone know what logs I should get if Ubuntu logs me out
[21:43] <D_A_N> It happened once today at work and I wanted to know which logs to get if it happens again so I can put them on stackoverflow
[21:44] <D_A_N> It logged me out and erased all the stuff I had open
[21:44] <Ezro> I'm not 100%, but maybe the syslog: /var/log/syslog
[21:45] <D_A_N> I'll just put everything in /var/log/ in a zip next time it happens
[21:45] <IntelCore> In troubled times, note what was taking place
[21:46] <D_A_N> Hopefully the auto-install knew how much ram to allocate
[21:59] <pixelfog> Has anyone here booted a Thinkpad T480 into the 18.04 "Try Ubuntu" environment? I see it boot into graphical mode *then* a USB disconnect and lots of squashfs errors.
[22:01] <Bashing-om> pixelfog: Did you verify the ISO and " check disk for defects " ?
[22:05] <xyzone[m]> I'm seeing something strange. In mate, the firefox desktop icon is huge? what is this?
[22:05] <IntelCore> wow. got usb, stuck it in laptop, used system to make start-up, and is that all?
[22:07] <pixelfog> Bashing-om: Yes, I did. Stick is good. I verified it with the checksum. And the stick works fine in a T510. Still it's hard to believe it could be hardware when the boot gets that far. I can usually start up a terminal, and starting tailing kern.log, and everything is still happy. And then I start Firefox or something else that's big, and I get a USB disconnect.
[22:07] <IntelCore> oh oh, now the usb drive will not read
[22:09] <IntelCore> the large icon for firefox.. is just their icon.. now
[22:10] <pixelfog> IntelCore: I used a separate system to cp Ubuntu to the USB stick.
[22:10] <xyzone[m]> just their icon?
[22:10] <xyzone[m]> mate shouldn't work that way
[22:11] <IntelCore> well, i can read the usb now
[22:11] <cluelessperson> Why the f does ubuntu minimal have a bunch of non-minimal things?
[22:11] <IntelCore> eh
[22:12] <cluelessperson> Firefox, Pidgin, Sylpheed, Transmission, Audacious, etc
[22:12] <cluelessperson> those are not required utilities by any means
[22:14] <oerheks> it is, by design, if you want a clean kernel, use server
[22:14] <IntelCore> So if I re-boot with this New USB in the slot, then I get to use 18.04 ??
[22:16] <IntelCore> brb
[22:19] <cluelessperson> oerheks: server doesn't have the wifi drivers
[22:19] <cluelessperson> pita
[22:20] <derpingit> hi guys. i am trying to have me and another user be able to access and modify permissions on /var/www/mysite/ . we're both members of the sudo group, but for some reason i cannot upload files into the folder. the way i have to get around is to make him owner of that fodler while he works on it. could you please help? thank you
[22:21] <cluelessperson> derpingit: sudo is for running random commands as a root user, not for giving various users permissions to a directory
[22:22] <derpingit> that is still a group tho
[22:22] <cluelessperson> derpingit: What you'll want to do is create a group, "mysite",  add your users to the mysite group
[22:22] <derpingit> got it ..
[22:22] <cluelessperson> derpingit: then, set the directory to be owned by root:group
[22:23] <cluelessperson> derpingit:   chown -R /var/www/mysite
[22:23] <cluelessperson> derpingit: then set the directory to have rw permissions by that group
[22:24] <cluelessperson> derpingit: chmod -R 775 /var/www/mysite
[22:24] <cluelessperson> ACLs for directories are a bit harder
[22:25] <derpingit> do i really want 775 all around?
[22:25] <oerheks> or make yourself member of www-data
[22:25] <cluelessperson> derpingit: not generally, it's 775 makes the entire directory readable by any user, not writable
[22:26] <derpingit> ok. created used.. changed owner..
[22:26] <derpingit> how about this: sudo find /var/www/computerninjas.net/html/ -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[22:26] <derpingit> and sudo find /var/www/computerninjas.net/html/ -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[22:27] <cluelessperson> derpingit: also add,    www-data to the mysite group
[22:27] <cluelessperson> or don't
[22:27] <derpingit> can you please explain ?
[22:27] <cluelessperson> derpingit: 775 means   owner:group can see and write to the directories,  and everyone else can 5 READ the directories.
[22:28] <IntelCore> live-session ran fine 18.04, then re-start said take the usb out. and 16.04 booted
[22:28] <cluelessperson> derpingit: So, if you don't add www-data (apache's default user) to the mysite group, it will only read
[22:29] <Samuel> my
[22:29] <cluelessperson> Samuel: sup
[22:30] <IntelCore> compdoc nick used to be on another irc
[22:30] <IntelCore> where MrSteve was
[22:37] <rud0lf> do you know how to fix (example) "man --html=x-www-browser cat", which results in "cannot open display :0.0, connection refused"?
[22:37] <rud0lf> i didn't do any significant tweaks to the system
[22:38] <Jordan_U_> rud0lf: Are you running that command from xterm/gnome-terminal/ some other graphical terminal emulator?
[22:38] <rud0lf> from xfce terminal
[22:39] <rud0lf> it worked flawlessly in ubuntu 16.04 (current one is xubuntu 18.04)
[22:39] <rud0lf> is it wrong channel to ask about xfce-related problem?
[22:49] <Roblox> ok then
[22:50] <Roblox> join 8
[22:50] <Roblox> hello anyone
[22:52] <auctus> 18.04 extracts stuff when I click it instead of opening the archiver? How do i turn that off?
[23:01] <Ezro> brainwash: I tried removing the 34 FW, but it ended up loading the 31.560484.0 FW.
[23:02] <Ezro> It seems a bit better, but I'm getting ~20Mbps down / ~11Mbps up, while this laptop on the same network gets ~125Mbps down / ~11Mbps up.
[23:02] <IntelCore> GTG, ty 4 help
[23:03] <Ezro> This laptop also sees 30 SSIDs broadcasting, and my Ubuntu laptop only seems 1 (the one it's connected to).
[23:03] <Squarism> how does one search for installed apps in gnome?
[23:04] <Squarism> like what i used "super key" (or was it alt) for in unity
[23:36] <Plumble> I got a certain path i use often which is quit long,is it possibel to like make an alias for the long path as with long commands in bash? Maybe some export in .profile or so?
[23:37] <Plumble> So i could then do like cd alias instead of cd /long/very/long/path
[23:45] <derpingit> shit.. so i did all the permissions stuff and i'm getting access denied for uploading a file to that folder
[23:47] <derpingit> created group, added me, www-data and the other user to it, chmod -r woot:group /directory
[23:48] <derpingit> lab@iga:~$ ls -lg /var/www/computerninjas.net/
[23:48] <derpingit> total 4
[23:48] <derpingit> drwxr-xr-x 4 webdevs 4096 May 7 15:20 html
[23:48] <derpingit> my apologies for the copy pasta
[23:50] <jrgilman> Hey, I want to "disable" the caps lock functionality of the caps lock key so that I can use it as a free key for something like a VOIP client. Anyone know how I would go about doing something like this?