=== raj` is now known as raj [00:11] hello, i'm using ubuntu 16.04, and the ubuntu launcher doesn't show anymore. I've tried many things on the web, such as apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop and rm -rf ~/.config, but it still doesnt work. any help please? === SimonTam is now known as luckybunny [00:12] hi [00:23] hello [00:23] my free-only install doesn't play music on youtube [00:23] How can I fix that without installing a bundle of non-free stuff? [00:24] hello, I accidentally deleted the first sever MB (< 30 MB) of my disk by writing some data using dd. How do I recover my ubuntu system? [00:25] noway96: I think you should at least know what filesystem you are using [00:26] p0a, it was whatever fs in the default Ubuntu 16.04 install [00:27] noway96: so figure it out [00:27] p0a, have you tried `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras` (fyi: it's non-free in the debian sense) [00:28] noway96: https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec [00:28] guiverc: yeah but it's a bundle [00:28] useful and essential forensic and recovery software^ [00:28] guiverc: I'm wondering if I can just install the relevant bit directly? [00:29] it doesn't take up much space [00:29] oh well okay [00:29] * p0a does it [00:29] both tools are useful, so why not keeping both? [00:30] yeah I just want my ssh keys from there [00:31] testdisk saved my life several times with partition table deletion, files accidentally erased, etc... [00:32] p0a, gstreamer1.0-fluendo-mp3 gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly and maybe gstreamer1.0-libav (which does video too) - but please note i'm no expert [00:33] guiverc: thank you, still no audio, I'm guessing I forgot the drivers [00:34] `ubuntu-drivers devices' doesn't show up anything [00:34] guiverc: those are audio codecs to play audio files with certain formats, not audio device drivers [00:35] maybe I'll manually have to figure it out [00:35] i thought the issue was playing mp3s (ie. codec issue) - sorry [00:35] what audio device do you have? [00:35] can you run in a terminal "lspci"? [00:37] does the "system" of a 64 bit ubuntu install use more ram for the system than the "system" of a 32bit ubuntu like a 64 bit windows install uses more ram than 32bit install? [00:37] or simply lspci | grep "Audio" [00:37] Mead: I guess yes [00:38] so if I'm gonna run it in a vm with only 1gig of ram, going with a 32bit install would be better? [00:39] Mead: please add to the VM a few hundred MB more just in case [00:39] Mead, is that 1g for the vm or 1g total ? [00:39] It could be to tight due to GNOME [00:39] if it's another flavour, then 1 GB would be OK [00:40] I'm using "server" without a gui [00:40] ubuntu with gnome will not run with 1g [00:40] ^ [00:40] If it's server, I'm not sure, but since it's without a GUI, should be OK [00:41] will not run? or will not run well? [00:43] https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html [00:45] well I was just wondering if it was worth if there would be an advantage going with a 32bit for ubuntu linux if you have under 4gigs of ram like there is with windows. [00:47] according to the link above, Ubuntu Server should be OK with 1 GB RAM [00:51] Mead: Keep in mind that 32 bit ISOs are being droped. [00:51] Is there a 18.04 32 bits version? [00:52] Anyways... Did anyone try FeralInteractive's Gamemode? [00:54] zerabat: About my Audio device, 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) [00:54] [00:56] zerabat: One of the 32 bit ISOs : https://xubuntu.org/download availabale here . [00:57] zerabat the ubuntu official website have no 32 bits version,but the lubntu,xubuntu,and so on, may continue support [00:58] p0a: your audio card is certified by ubuntu as capable of working https://certification.ubuntu.com/catalog/component/pci/8086%3A1c20/ [00:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1573115 [00:58] Launchpad bug 1573115 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "No Speakers Sound in Ubuntu 16.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:59] in Spanish: https://gutl.jovenclub.cu/solucion-a-problema-con-audio-intel/ [01:04] The post is old, and rely on installing packages alsa-base alsa-tools alsa-utils, and changing a line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf: "options snd-hda-intel model=generic" to "options snd-hda-intel model=auto", but before trying anything... What sound system is used nowadays? ALSA or PulseAudio? [01:05] zerabat: it must be alsa messing things up; I recall many moons ago doing the same thing [01:06] thanks for looking up all that for me [01:07] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322896&p=13528748#post13528748 [01:09] Did anyone try FeralInteractive's Gamemode? [01:09] I was waiting for a community maintained repo for it, but as today only Arch and Solus have it in repos, and Debian package seems to be frozen (https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/gamemode). [01:11] The alternative is to do a manual install, but I don't want it since it's dirtier [01:21] my ifconfig output doesn't name my interfaces in the standard eth0, wlan0, etc format [01:21] how can I find out why? [01:21] enp0s31f6 is my ethernet interface name [01:21] Vashy, thats a systemd renaming [01:22] you can go back to the standard previous way iirc [01:22] I see [01:22] just found this [01:22] https://askubuntu.com/questions/704361/why-is-my-network-interface-named-enp0s25-instead-of-eth0#704364 === leion1 is now known as leion [01:38] My audio pops from the power save stuff all the time, but the instructions on how to fix it (disable powersave on sound card) no longer apply in 18.04. What is the correct way to do this? [01:38] the line options snd-hda-intel power_save no longer exists in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:45] what's the best way to get files on and off a ubuntu web server? [01:45] do u guys use ftp? [01:45] xirg: the best way is [01:45] xirg: however, I would urge against FTP since it's insecure [01:46] it's also slow, scp or ssh mounts are fairly popular [01:46] oh I didn't know ssh mounts were a thing [01:47] i set up a samba file share for another server but that was within a domain on a LAN [01:47] this server is by its lonesome so I can't do samba [01:48] i'll look into the ssh mount [01:49] heh, I just gave up trying to make ubuntu work on my new laptop, so i installed mint [01:49] !mint | stairway [01:49] stairway: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) === luckybunny is now known as SimonTam [01:51] hello all [02:04] Hello all. [02:05] How do I repair this issue with sudo: sudo: ` no tty present and no askpass program specified` ? searching for an answer yields no results [02:06] vivus: vi /etc/sudoers then :abc ALL= NOPASSWD:ALL [02:07] eric_lee: why didn't: `adduser USERNAME sudo` fix it? [02:07] vivus: boot with a live cd, mount your root filesystem and undo whatever changes you made to /etc/suoders [02:15] Is there a place where I could learn what options were turned on at compile time Specifically is the joystick option in my QT (bionic mate) [02:16] is secure boot recommended or just disable it? [02:17] eric_lee: I tried: `usermod -aG sudo MYUSER` AND I tried your solution and neither worked [02:20] xirg: you technically can still use samba regardless of which network it's sitting on - just needs a vpn set up, though unless you're using windows i'd say samba is much more hassle than say sshfs [02:22] oh yea i could set up a vpn [02:22] leftyfb: I didn't change anything in /etc/sudoers file [02:22] I use windows... but i'm looking into this sshfs thing [02:25] hey peeps, anyone else having a problem with the typing cursor jumping around on ubuntu 18.04? [02:26] very strange problem but it seems to be rampant on my end lol [02:27] jumping around? [02:27] it jumps between apps, between boxes on web pages, etc [02:27] ...i just installed 18.04...haven't experiencing anything like that yet [02:27] i can be mid sentence typing [02:27] strange [02:27] xeth0sx: laptop? [02:27] and the cursor is suddenly in a dfferent place lol [02:28] yes laptop [02:28] xeth0sx: Are you hitting your touchpad? [02:28] don't believe so [02:28] but, to check how do i disable touchpad click on ubuntu? [02:29] problem didn't start until i upgraded to 18.04 [02:34] don't go disabling hardware if you're already having issues [02:35] xeth0sx: I believe in the mouse/touchpad settings there is a "disable while typing" option [02:36] how great is netplan? [02:36] k it is the tap to click on the touchpad. the heel of my palm is hitting it and the sensitivity seems to much lighter than it used to be [02:37] I dont know if I like the idea of having yet another config file on top of /network/interfaces [02:37] @tgm4883 looking for that option now [02:38] found it. thx! [02:39] #sucks tobeanoob === leion1 is now known as leion [03:11] I have a noob ubuntu/linux question [03:11] is there a place where the expected output of commands is documented? === sauvin_ is now known as Sauvin [03:11] e.g. if I want to write a parser for `lsusb` or `ifconfig` ? [03:11] their man pages don't seem to have what I'm looking for [03:11] I want to know what the expected output should be formatted like [03:23] %m [03:23] Vashy: you might try "info " [03:27] on 18.04 I noticed that I dont need the sudo command if Im logged in a root [03:28] is this intentional or I did something wrong? [03:29] "logged in as root" → "no need for sudo" → sounds about right... [03:30] on 16.04 I need sudo for certain commands even if Im root === root_ is now known as Guest14202 [03:31] root can do anything [03:31] The notebook is restarted after I shutdown it. [03:33] :thinking: [03:35] Guest14202:you can try use command 'shutdown -h now' to shutdown the computer [03:36] I tryed it. It doesn't work. Also I installed ubuntu to my mother notebook so she don't know about console. [03:42] Guest14202:if 'shutdown -h now ' cant work,you can check bios setting [03:45] wake on lan is disabled [03:47] I found some advice to send "on" to /sys/bus/*/devices/*/power/control [03:48] if your notebook dual boot? [03:48] no [03:48] it's the same problem with last ubuntu, mint, ubuntu-mate [03:50] ls -l /sbin/poweroff [03:51] reboot or halt [03:54] Some guys says it's common problem for acer aspire. Firstly you should turn off a power of all usb/wifi devices and only then shutdown the notebook [03:54] Guest14202, try to put apci=off in grub and try to shutdown normal [03:55] I tryed it. yes, the notebooks is shutdown well, but wifi is not work properly. [04:02] Guest14202: ACPI issues see: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html for your laptop . === s0lar1s_ is now known as s0lar1s === Jochen_wvdT is now known as Schlawiner [05:16] Hi, has ubuntu stopped publishing the root fs tarballs ? I dont find them for bionic [05:17] Is there any plan to publish these or have they been renamed/replaced for bionic? [05:36] I expanded a virtualbox VDI to add 5GB, rebooted the VM into a ubuntu live cd (16.04), and opened gparted but can't seem to resize the root parition. Any ideas? [05:42] i'll try the gparted live cd instead [05:46] yeah that didn't work either.. wtf [05:46] bgilb, gparted will expand non-mounted partitions easily; if you're having issues its likely because its mounted (in use) [05:48] theres no lock symbol or anything [05:49] https://imgur.com/a/O1o2UT5 [05:50] bgilb: You're trying to resize it to what? [05:51] 6 + 5 so 11 [05:51] Oh, you want to make it bigger? [05:51] bgilb: So, you can't expand it because sda2 is right next to it. Luckily, sda2 (and with it sda5) are just swap, so there's no data there. Which makes it easier. [05:52] bgilb: You'll need to move sda5 (and sda2) to the end of your disk, which will free up 5GB in the middle (adjacent to sda1), and then you can expand it. [05:52] bgilb: Another way to do that would be to just remove swap/sda2/sda5, expand sda1, then re-add sda2/sda5 [05:53] bgilb: But since it appears you're using a new-ish version of gparted, you should be able to literally "move" that, instead of having to remove/recreate. [05:59] thank you! deleting it did the trick [06:06] I've installed zotero by putting it in /opt and then putting the bin into /usr/local/bin. There's a zotero.destop file and I know that desktop files go in /usr/share/applications but what do I do symbolic link, hardlink, cp? [06:07] hello [06:08] nice to meet you === arceus is now known as Guest93925 [06:13] hi [06:14] how could I remove the shadow of the windows ? [06:18] I have enabled auto updates as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html however, I want the frequency of updates to be much more frequent. Maybe every 4-6 hours. Because often the machine is only powered on for a short while and thus gets very much behind with updates. [06:19] How do I increase the frequency? Maybe even have it install updates 10 minutes after each bootup [06:20] tdn: it should be in some file here /etc/apt/apt.conf.d === dinasty1 is now known as dinasty [06:23] can i install older nvidia driver on ubuntu 18.04/ the driver tool only shows the 390 driver. [06:24] EriC^^, if so, I havent been able to find it. I read through the config files in there and read all the comments. It does not appear to be there [06:31] hi, i need to install older nvidia prop. driver. Like 380 or 374. The 390 driver aren't working good in my hardware. (tearing and i can't fix already tried). Can i install older drivers, if yes, how/ It doesn't shows on the ubuntu drivers tool. Only shows 390. === zZzZzZ_ is now known as zZzZzZ [06:32] tdn: me neither [06:34] tdn: maybe it's some cronjob? [06:34] are there any ways to get my hardware to run cooler, i am on an old (2012) macbook pro and it just runs abnormally hot in linux, even when under only 2-3% cpu load, disabling the discrete card doesnt do much either [06:35] tdn: drop a script into /etc/cron.daily, and anacron should pick it up [06:36] soup, i think there is an service you can install that allows you to downgrade the CPU Ghz when you it is not fully used [06:36] Like Energy saving option [06:36] tdn: if you want it run after you boot, you could add a cronjob with @reboot [06:36] It is energy saving actually [06:36] something like tlp, because it isnt really doing much [06:37] downclock [06:38] windows has it by default but not on linux. in linux you are using the full capacity everytime. you need to manually install the service that manage that, afaik [06:38] something like cpufreq? [06:38] exactly [06:38] you need that on start-up [06:38] i havent really had to deal with this on a laptop, but yeah im not really hurting for processing speed anyway [06:38] with systemd [06:39] the service i saw long time ago control that, if the kernel demands power, the service let the processor go higher clocks. [06:40] i guess it is worth trying, fans going on idle is getting on my nerves [06:41] yeah take a look on that info may help you [06:42] anyone knows if we can install older nvidia prop. drivers on 18.04/ (default is 390) [06:42] hi [06:43] I have a problem with a network printer, CUPS shows the printer as working, show jobs as completed, but nothing comes out of the printer [06:45] nvidia-384/bionic 390.48-0ubuntu3 amd64 [06:45] Transitional package for nvidia-driver-390 -> what means Transitional package [06:45] maxcell_:you can uninstall the nvidia driver and install the older [06:45] this is 384 or 390/ eric_lee [06:46] it says 384 but on the description it says "transitional package for nvidia-390" [06:46] maxcell_: transitional packages are packages that just point to a newer package. [06:47] Flannel, so, to have the 384 driver i gotta install this one: [06:47] nvidia-375/bionic 384.111-0ubuntu1 amd64 [06:47] Transitional package for nvidia-384 [06:47] maxcell_: Their primary purpose is to ease transitions from one version of Ubuntu to another. [06:47] understand [06:48] so, nvidia-375 = 384 [06:49] maxcell_: nvidia-375 doesn't install anything. But nvidia-375 will install nvidia-384 for you, which will install 384 [06:49] but it's saying on apt-get that it will install nvidia-dkms-390 as well [06:49] along with nvidida-384 [06:50] so it will automatically updates to 390/ [06:50] or not [06:50] maxcell_: so, it appears that nvidiea-384 is actually a transitional package too, for -390 [06:51] hmm [06:51] i have trouble with 390 driver [06:51] screen tearing [06:55] hey all [06:57] hello, how do i set hostname in ubuntu18 ? I tried updating /etc/hostname ; using hostnamectl set-hostname NewHostname however changes disappear as soon as reboot the server? [06:58] !hostname | r15 [06:58] r15: Use hostname to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. [07:00] lotuspsychje_: That doesn't work, i updated /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts (with old and new hostname) manually, rebooted and server is still pointing to old hostname. I am using 18.04 [07:01] already applied all the latests updates to the server. [07:02] latest* [07:05] what could be the issue? [07:06] changes to /etc/hostname file disappears as well. [07:07] it's working now. [07:08] from ubuntu18.04,you can use command 'sudo hostnamectl set-hostname XXXX' [07:08] r15, try hostnamectl set-hostname === tom is now known as Guest99161 [07:08] 1) update /etc/hostname with new hostname. 2) update /etc/hosts file with old and new hostname 3) hostnamectl set-hostname NewHostname [07:08] guiverc:yes already tried that, it was not persistent [07:08] to have access to vulkan api on 18.04 i only need to install mesa-vulkan-drivers/ [07:11] is there any long pressed key that will change the behavior of the keyboard ? [07:20] well disabling turbo-boost made a pretty big difference [07:21] lenovo c200 computer install ubuntu successful ,but not have the video driver, the hardware is 'atom processor'and 'intel GMA 3150 ',if I install the nvidia driver, restart the computer ,the gui is off. [07:22] install the intel driver [07:36] hey, I have a weird problem. if I connect my laptop to my Lenovo thunderbolt dock the system almost hangs(I can click CTRL+ALT+F1 and only after 30-40 secs it will open tty) but if I disconnect it goes back in 10 seconds, If I connect and reboot the dock works fine, I have some errors in dmesg but no new ones when I connect and disconnect from the dock, I have this in Xorg.log https://pastebin.com/fL3KwGJx [07:37] (these lines gets created every time I plug and unplug the C dock) [07:37] ideas on what other logs to look at? [07:41] elichai2: the dock doesn't work when you try to hotplug it but it works fine when booting with it? [07:43] yeah [07:44] altough I'm not sure if it's a hot plug issue or it's just works only one time per boot lol, i'll try rebooting wait for it to load and only then connect [07:44] elichai2: your paste suggests that it can't find a suitable driver but if it works fine from booting there must be something else wrong [07:48] yeah I just tested and it's not about hot plugging, it just only works once per boot :\ [07:49] elichai2: does the dock have its own graphics card or connects to a monitor? [07:49] it connects to 2 DP monitors [07:50] this is the Xorg.0.log now after a boot and the dock works http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3DqhMc43V9/ [07:50] elichai2: that is why you can see modeset in your paste with monitor information [07:50] I'm having troubles with automount on Ubuntu Mate. All of my duplicity backups are on an external disk and now when I try to access them after a fresh install, Caja is telling me I don't have the right permissions to the disk. [07:51] Where can I go to modify the automount permissions? [07:51] !fstab | lrb [07:51] lrb: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions [07:51] fstab doesn't manage automount for USB disks, does it? [07:53] 000000000000000522222222222226666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666660 [07:53] auronandace: ok. how can I debug that? [07:53] [d[8$ [07:54] lrb, i've used fstab to mount external drives on ubuntu (ext4 fs, up to 16.04 anyway) [07:55] I know there's a config file that manages the default permissions for all automount actions somewhere. I just want to know where it is. fstab is not how automount is managed. [07:55] hello, I managed to kill an usb stick, modified it with gparted, now both linux and windows mount it read-only, is any method to fix it? Or I can throw it away? :) [07:56] fxnoob are you familiar with terminal commands at all? [07:56] elichai2: i'm not too sure sorry. i'm guessing a dock like that isn't designed to be used as a hotplugged device. if it has its own graphics card... usually graphics cards are not hotpluggable devices. this is probably why it only works when you boot with it plugged in [07:56] lrb: kinda [07:57] Do you know the path to the device in /dev? [07:58] problem is I don't have it right now on me, is at home, but I will ask again when I get out of work [07:58] elichai2: one thing i can suggest: run lsmod when booted without the dock and do it again when booted with the doc then you can compare the two to see the difference in the kernel modules loaded [07:58] Good idea, fxnoob [08:01] another question, is any support for Ryzen cpu's with Vega graphics in 18.04? Support as in accelerated video + hdmi sound. Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G [08:01] I tried beta, but it was a fail, basic vga and no sound at all [08:03] AMD provides drivers for win 10 x64 only on their site [08:05] auronandace: sounds weird that there's a gpu inside the dock. and as I said it does works with hot plug but only once per boot [08:06] elichai2: you can still compare the lsmod outputs to see any difference in drivers [08:07] fxnoob: You sure? https://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu%20x86%2064 [08:07] i'll try, I just don't want to reboot right now. any other directions? [08:08] elichai2: nothing i can think of. sorry i'm not much help [08:11] ok, If anyone else have ideas it would be great :) [08:17] Is there anyone here who can assit me? I'm having trouble signing into 18.04. When I enter my password, the system just freezes. [08:20] FlameStrike: are you on a secondary computer? [08:22] At the moment, yes [08:22] Perhaps a better question: How do I configure the udisks2 automount options? [08:25] Which pdf doc-reader is recommended by ubuntu? [08:27] empedokles78: https://askubuntu.com/a/18524 [08:28] jink, is anyone of them fast? Okular certainly isn't. :) [08:29] No clue. [08:29] I don't read PDFs on Ubuntu. [08:30] hi guys [08:30] can anyone take a look at -> https://pastebin.com/eQGpq7z9 pls ? [08:31] I'm trying to set the sudo defaults in AD. Using sssd for sudo [08:31] and not seing anything when I run sudo -ll [08:32] jink: u are joking right? We are talking about 2018 technology [08:33] this cpu was released in february 2018, with 0 support for linux [08:33] surely it's not a brand new ISA... [08:34] I was wondering if newer kernels from 18.04 contain drivers for these [08:34] for what, Ryzen+ ? [08:34] Ryzen G, with integrated Vega graphics [08:35] oh Vega... I wouldn't know about that, sorry. [08:35] fxnoob: scan through some recent phoronix articles, iirc they did some tests [08:36] I'm having trouble signing into 18.04. When I enter my password, the system just freezes. I can get into recovery mode, but from there I'm lost. === shann_ is now known as shann [08:39] FlameStrike: does /var/log/syslog show anything? or ~/.xsession-errors ? [08:40] FlameStrike:you can enter the single mode and change the password [08:41] Let me see if I can access those files [08:41] The password I'm enetring is accurate, that's not the problem [08:43] I'm not able to get a directory list [08:43] I've just gotten three messages [08:43] FlameStrike: what's the error. [08:43] 1: Timed out waiting for device [08:44] 2: Dependency failed for /dev/disk/by-... [08:44] FlameStrike: that's when running `ls` ? [08:44] 3: Dependency failed for swap [08:44] I think that was unrelated to my attempt to get a directory listing [08:45] so what's the error when you type `ls` ? [08:45] "ls" and "dir" give no messages, they just kick me to a new command prompt without listing any directories or files [08:46] FlameStrike: how about ls -la ? [08:47] i am not sure if this is the correct chan. i recently reinstalled a fresh copy of bionic and then installed i3wm. I have zero audio. i have run sound-test and the speakers do work. I have Not tried playing anything locally, just through browsers; firefox, chromium and google-chrome.. nada [08:47] that worked, I've got a listing now [08:48] darthrocker: i3 being a minimalistic tiling wm, and not a whole desktop environment, probably there's no initialization for pulseaudio. [08:48] How do I make the /tmp folder not writeable by other users? Right now root owns it [08:49] OK, i've found the syslog file, How do I open it? [08:49] darthrocker: I think you can use 'pavucontrol' program for that, and run some bindsym's in the i3 config if you have a multimedia kbd [08:50] FlameStrike: sudo cat /var/log/syslog | nc termview.me 9999 [08:50] share the link here [08:50] FlameStrike: for starters, run journalctl -n -p err | nc termbin.com 9999 -- that should give you an URL you can paste here. that pastebins the journal listing of latest errors [08:51] or do what EriC^^ just stated, but that's the whole syslog being dumped.... might take a while. [08:51] I can't get online with that machine at the moment. I'm in recovery mode with a command line [08:51] thank you backflow, got it [08:51] FlameStrike: in recovery mode theres "start networking" [08:52] can i have gnome-control-center without whoopsie, aptdaemon, wpasupplicant? [08:52] I tried that, everytime I do, it freezes up at "started update utmp about system runlevel changes" [08:52] and without netowrk-manager? [08:52] EriC^^, what to put in the cronjob? I guess it will not go well to just put "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y" ? [08:52] ducasse, what script though? [08:53] Morning. On 16.04 (Unity, I think), is there a way to execute a GUI app in full screen or maximized? [08:54] tdn: just create one [08:54] that's app specific as far I know [08:54] FlameStrike: do you know if you have a "regular consumer network" there? the IPs being in the 192.168.1.x range or something? [08:54] tdn: in general it's not a good idea to dist-upgrade blindly [08:54] Passing in a geometry for full screen might do it, depending on the window manager you can ask for no decorations [08:55] maybe reconsider stuff [08:55] As in my ISP, or my home network? [08:55] spikebike: Not the answer I wanted to hear; but at least I can stop looking for a generic solution then, thanks! o/ [08:56] EriC^^, exactly. That is why I want to use the unattended-upgrades system. === mquin is now known as Guest54612 [08:57] OK, my home network used those numbers, yeah === Guest54612 is now known as mquin [09:00] FlameStrike: perhaps you can then try force a static IP, just to get online. first, do you know the name of the network interface? something like enp3s0 or similar? [09:01] FlameStrike: `ip link show` the first one will be "1: lo: ..." so is there a second one? [09:02] Yeah, there is a second one, and I've got the name [09:03] FlameStrike: which name is it? [09:03] enp2s0 [09:03] FlameStrike: okay, try set a static IP. ip addr add 192.168.1.123/24 dev enp2s0 [09:04] FlameStrike: that assumes .123 will be free in your assumingly DHCP network in the 192.168.1.0/24 range [09:05] FlameStrike: then set up routing: ip route add default via 192.168.1.1/24 -- and that assumes the gateway is at 192.168.1.1 [09:06] chances are the numbers are correct, if you have a "typical home network" there. you can test by pinging google, eg. ping -c 2 8.8.8.8 [09:06] if that works, you've got network and can pastebin that syslog. [09:07] Well, the first one seems to have gone OK, but the second one says "Error: any valid address is expected rather than 192.168.1.1/24 [09:08] FlameStrike: try ip route add default def enp2s0 [09:08] dev not def [09:09] "error: device for nexthop is not up." [09:12] FlameStrike: try ip route add default via 192.168.1.1 dev enp2s0 [09:13] Nexthop has invalid gateway [09:15] FlameStrike: well then I suppose the addresses ARE wrong after all. You wouldn't know the IP range and gateway in your home network, would you? [09:15] FlameStrike: have another computer you can check from? like the one you're on now? [09:16] hello, can someone say what "m" mean? i.e. "CONFIG_PSTORE_RAM=m"? [09:16] interrobangd: it means "build it as module" [09:16] "y" embeds it in the kernel direclty, "m" builds a module and "n" disables the option [09:16] I tried looking that up with this machine, yeah, and I tried plugging in the numbers from what I was told was the gateway address [09:17] thx [09:17] blackflow, and what are the name of the module? [09:17] I also tried the numbers from the range extender just in case the gateway signal was too weak [09:18] What's a good reminder/alarm app? [09:18] interrobangd: no idea, maybe pstore_ram ? [09:19] interrobangd: some quick google search suggests "ramoops" will be the module name [09:19] interrobangd: https://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/PSTORE_RAM.html [09:19] dont find it on lsmod output [09:20] FlameStrike: maybe I'm overthinkging this. Maybe you could just run dhclient enp2s0 :) [09:21] there are no modules with "oop" or "ram" or "store" [09:21] "W: Download is performed unsandboxed as root as file '/root/.synaptic/tmp//tmp_sh' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)" -- What the heck is that? [09:21] interrobangd: so they're not loaded [09:22] Well, that hasn't produced an error message yet. It also hasn't given me a new command prompt either. [09:24] FlameStrike: it should, after a few seconds. If not, then there's another problem, and you can Ctrl-C the current task. [09:25] I hit Ctrl-C [09:25] blackflow, you are right, thank you [09:25] its monday^^ [09:25] On that note, Ctrl-C is some kind of abort command? [09:26] FlameStrike: yes, I believe it sends the ABORT signal to the running process. [09:26] *ABRT [09:27] no, sorry, INT, SIGINT (interrupt) [09:27] That's a piece of the puzzle I may have been missing. I've hit that button combo a few times, not knowing what it was when it froze on the Enable networking option from the recovery menu [09:27] I'm going to see where it freezes when I try that menu option again [09:28] FlameStrike: it's also possible that your previous attempts to start the network service have derped something so this attempt at static or running dhclient direclty, is failing. [09:29] Possible, but I hadn't tried anything like that since the last reboot [09:29] FlameStrike: if you can't get the recovery env with networking enabled, try rebooting and don't enable networking, but try running dhclient enp2s0 directly. [09:30] I suspect enabling networkign causes an avalanche of systemd events and services and whatnots being run. [09:30] I'm seeing it freeze up while doing something swap related. I don't know that's the problem or just a coincidence though. [09:31] alternate on switch [09:32] FlameStrike: ah.... yes. swap is swapfile now, and the root is readonly in rescue env. [09:32] FlameStrike: try this then. reboot into rescue mode but don't choose enable networking. when you get the prompt, remount root as rw: mount -o remount,rw / [09:32] Rebooting now [09:33] FlameStrike: that makes the root filesystem writeable. THEN try starting the network. systemctl start network.target I believe, not sure. [09:33] systemctl [09:37] Failed to start network.service: Unit network.service not found [09:37]