/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/05/08/#ubports.txt

ubptgbotLaRugxaKoro was added by: LaRugxaKoro02:06
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Max Headroom??? Sweet name. I approve you.03:21
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> He's 20 minutes into the future03:33
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> the original max headroom short is so good03:34
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> [Edit] the original max headroom short movie thing is so good03:34
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> I love all of it03:34
ubptgbot<Gorsh2> Except the Pepsi ad03:35
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> @samzn, Yep i think it,s using the wayland protocol now along with the changes in mirserver to suport it.  marius, alan are working on xwayland but it,s not ready yet03:48
ubptgbot<samzn> Ought to see tdesktop on a phone, it's really great on Sailfish03:49
ubptgbot<samzn> Only issue is the lack of push03:49
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> Tdeskip = telegram desktop?03:52
ubptgbot<samzn> yes03:52
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> Oh 😃03:53
ubptgbot<samzn> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/s0MSeZMR.png03:54
ubptgbot<samzn> converges super well :D03:54
ubptgbot<Lyokanthrope> it me03:54
ubptgbot<samzn> yes03:55
ubptgbot<samzn> (Photo, 961x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/TqTZmdeZ.png03:56
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> @samzn, Nice03:56
ubptgbotAlex was added by: Alex05:47
ubptgbot<Alex> Hi everyone !05:51
ubptgbot<advocatux> Hi @LaRugxaKoro & Alex welcome. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed05:52
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @OwnCreatorStudio, Can you explain what you mean by 'modern'? Not a very helpful adjective06:07
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Max Headroom, I suggest you join the Welcome Room. Sounds like you are 80% towards Ubuntu Touch install success06:09
ubptgbotKishan_Bhatt was added by: Kishan_Bhatt07:06
ubptgbotFicsrealZ was added by: FicsrealZ07:08
ubptgbot<FicsrealZ> Kind time of day. … Is there a Russian-language chat?07:09
ubptgbot<Kishan_Bhatt> Hello guys, is it possible to flash ubuntu touch in redmi note 4 Snapdragon device!?07:11
ubptgbot<anpok> @UniversalSuperBox, We had device specific issues with power modes in touch drivers..  we had the bottom touch area misbehave wierdly because some drivers map to a key on the bottom of the screen.. but if it is related to the on screen keyboard state ...07:14
ubptgbot<anpok> from mirs point of view qt mir has full screen surfaces07:15
ubptgbot<anpok> I think even when the keyboard is visible..07:15
ubptgbot<anpok> that sounds like some state tracking problem  / race  while enabling  / diabling the keyboard07:16
ubptgbot<Tompla> @Kishan_Bhatt, https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/07:18
ubptgbot<Kishan_Bhatt> Ohk, that means no luck✌️07:20
ubptgbot<advocatux> @FicsrealZ, https://t.me/UBports_Ru07:27
ubptgbotDmitriiKudas was added by: DmitriiKudas07:28
ubptgbotderptester69 was added by: derptester6907:28
ubptgbot<advocatux> Hi @Kishan_Bhatt & @FicsrealZ welcome. Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started07:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> @DmitriiKudas & @derptester69 welcome you too. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome07:30
ubptgbot<advocatux> @Kishan_Bhatt, Just in case you want to help, someone has started a porting to Halium https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/7107:34
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @sverzegnassi hey, would it be possible for you to add to UT Tweak Tool the ability to sort apps by various size categories: app install, data, cache etc?08:04
ubptgbot<thepeter> I may need a bit help - I use bq 5HD with original canonical image, luckily in developer mode but my display connector has broken down ... adb found the device - so can anyone advice how to recover data thrugh PC?08:34
ubptgbot<thepeter> [Edit] I may need a bit help - I use bq 5HD with original canonical image, luckily in developer mode but my display connector has broken down ... adb found the device - so can anyone advice how to recover data through PC?08:35
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> adb allows you to commandline in08:40
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> adb shell for instance08:41
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> also, phablet-shell might work if you have phablet-tools installed08:41
ubptgbot<thepeter> @rogieroudshoorn, Ok so how will I get through unathorized status?08:43
ubptgbot<thepeter> Cause other way is just waiting for the device08:44
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> i think in android you need to approve through developer tools08:44
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> ... which means you're in bad luck if you got no display ...08:44
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> can you get it to bootloader? that might not have that issue08:44
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> "adb reboot bootloader"08:45
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> ... if it's twrp at least ...08:45
ubptgbot<thepeter> well I can try, but it is just original build from canonical08:47
ubptgbot<thepeter> Btw the connector is physically disconnected08:48
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> then i'm not sure, never tried this on canonical image08:52
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> maybe someone else has a good idea?08:52
ubptgbot<thepeter> @rogieroudshoorn, it won't allow me anything, not even restart device08:53
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> there's probably a longpress combo of volume + on/off that does the same08:53
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> but that i also don't know08:53
ubptgbot<thepeter> @rogieroudshoorn, Well i could restart the device by long press power button and so on, but will tgat do any good?08:56
ubptgbot<thepeter> It' asking for vendor key08:57
ubptgbot<rogieroudshoorn> sorry, out of my range now ...09:01
=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun
ubptgbot<advocatux> "my display connector has broken down" … @thepeter what do you exactly mean by that? is the display showing something but doesn't reacto to tapping or it's totally blank and doesn't work at all? If it's the former, have you tried to connect an external mouse?09:24
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @thepeter, You can get a key from BQ09:36
ubptgbot<thepeter> @advocatux, the connector is physically disconnected - display is by that completelly back09:41
ubptgbot<thepeter> @Stereofont, Uhm and how?09:41
ubptgbot<thepeter> @rogieroudshoorn, Thanks for trying anyway09:42
ubptgbot<advocatux> Have you tried to contact BQ support? https://www.bq.com/en/support/09:42
ubptgbot<thepeter> @advocatux, [Edit] the connector is physically disconnected - display is by that completelly black09:42
ubptgbot<thepeter> oh they want to call me ... that would be nice, if just my phone would work09:47
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> https://forums.ubports.com/topic/1218/would-changing-the-unity8-name-be-less-confusing-than-keeping-it09:52
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> @TartanSpartan, Hi there! Sure it's possible but it might take some time. I'd try to make the app available on xenial first :)11:19
ubptgbot<buio63> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/CejHZ04h.mp413:06
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @sverzegnassi, :D13:07
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @buio63, awesome.13:25
=== chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @B0n0b0b has a completely  dead screen on his OPO after trying to repeat UT install by going back to stock Android first.. Outside my knowledge. Anyone any ideas?14:03
ubptgbot<Stereofont> No splashscreen, no response to fastboot14:06
ubptgbot<Christof> Hi, I just wanted to have a quick status upgrade about porting. I know the librem will be available by next year but I doubt that my current phone makes it that long and it is rather expensive. my preferred phone would be the HTC 10. My last info was that ivan semkin has been working on that phone. Will this device be supported?14:15
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Christof, Yes, it will be supported. But not any time soon, it might take half of a year to finish the port14:18
ubptgbot<Christof> great news! many thanks for the info! I guess availability of phones is the only thing keeping ubports usage from increasing _significantly_14:19
ubptgbot<vanyasem> Marius also works on that port, so i am not the only one doing the lifting14:19
ubptgbot<vanyasem> You can actually install and use ubports on htc 10 right now, but not all features are supported yet14:22
ubptgbot<vanyasem> I.e. no camera, no audio, etc14:22
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @vanyasem, You will find the latest images (unofficial) here halium.mynameisivan.ru14:23
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @vanyasem, [Edit] You will find the latest images (unofficial) here halium.mynameisivan.ru/htc-1014:23
ubptgbot<NotKit> @vanyasem, just wonder, do you have latest rootfs running on it?14:25
ubptgbot<NotKit> or only old -caf one?14:25
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @NotKit, This14:29
ubptgbot<vanyasem> Waiting for marius to fix caf14:29
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @NotKit, It's mirrored in the root of that website i gave above14:29
ubptgbot<vanyasem> Exactly for this reason14:29
ubptgbot<NotKit> did you try with new android-caf Mir platform?14:29
ubptgbot<vanyasem> No, been busy irl14:29
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @NotKit, I recommend freshly roasted to fix your problem.14:34
ubptgbot<NotKit> ем?14:34
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @NotKit, Join @CookingOfUbuntu to share that info :P14:36
ubptgbot<NotKit> did @wayneoutthere make a joke then?14:43
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @NotKit, yeah. my statement was also a joke referring to the meaning of "ем" in Russian :P14:43
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @NotKit, i prefer fresh -caf instead of old -caf15:04
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/09xevHiM.mp415:05
ubptgbotbefeather was added by: befeather15:09
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @befeather, Welcome, Никита!  Take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started15:10
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @befeather, [Edit] Welcome, Никита! Take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started15:10
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> (Photo, 934x699) https://irc.ubports.com/ENKfFKs6.png15:17
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> 18.10 ^^15:17
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> Octopus15:23
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> Cuttlefish15:23
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> Cute-l-fish15:27
ubptgbot<befeather> (Photo, 800x530) https://irc.ubports.com/ZxIRhPWg.png Cyanea Capillata15:29
ubptgbot<advocatux> @popescu_sorin, Is that the name for 18.10? I saw Ubuntu using Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic CANIMAL) in the daily builds15:39
ubptgbot<Tompla> @advocatux, Yes15:39
ubptgbot<advocatux> So Cosmic Canimal is a provisional codename?15:40
ubptgbot<Tompla> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/152115:40
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> @advocatux, http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/152115:41
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> hehe @Tompla first :D15:41
ubptgbot<Tompla> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Bxiosc6J.mp415:41
ubptgbot<advocatux> Thank you both :)15:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> Cosmic Cthulhu15:48
ubptgbot<aldolinux80> @dohbee, Nice !!!15:55
ubptgbot<dohbee> surprised it wasn't Cosmic Canine though15:58
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> So if I was to plug a CD/DVD/BRD device into a UT phablet via USB OTG, does anyone think a Libertine program could interface with it?16:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> if you bind mount it, i guess maybe16:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> and presuming it has external power16:33
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> It does yes.16:33
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Would that be along these lines?16:33
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> https://askubuntu.com/questions/256587/how-to-mount-dvd-rw-drive-create-mount-point16:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> it would be like how you forwarded the mount point for your SD card into your container16:34
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Ahhhh16:34
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Ok.16:34
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I guess the first thing to do would be to use CLI-fu to find the USB device's identifiers?16:35
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> lsusb:16:42
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 13fd:3940 Initio Corporation16:43
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> That's the man of the hour.16:43
ubptgbotpaulgiron was added by: paulgiron16:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> well it should already show up as a device to mount, probably sda or something16:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> check dmesg i guess16:47
ubptgbot<Bolly> Welcome @paulgiron !!! Check out this to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome and Install room! https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome16:54
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Hmmm:17:10
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/8raIEQDk.png17:11
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Don't see sr0 or DVD there.17:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> oh, maybe the drivers aren't built into the kernel then17:14
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Could there be a way to implement them into the container?17:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> what does `dmesg` say about it when you connect the drive?17:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, not in the container17:15
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Should I run that command in the UT terminal? Or the container's?17:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> in the root17:22
ubptgbot<dohbee> don't do anything in the container until you can access it in the host system17:22
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I use dmesg and grep for dvd but nothing.17:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> don't grep, just plug in the thing, and then immediately run `dmesg | tail -20` for example to get the last 20 lines17:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> and see if it assigns a device or not17:25
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/6okHjFQH.png17:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> so no, it doesn't assign a block device node to it. probably missing the necessary drivers in the kernel17:29
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Hmmm.17:29
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Is this something which can be implemented for Xenial @mariogrip @UniversalSuperBox17:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> it has nothing to do with vivid or xenial17:30
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Isn't there an upgraded kernel being introduced with Xenial?17:30
ubptgbot<dohbee> no17:30
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Can that be done with subsequent OTAs?17:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> at least, not unless the device in question has a newer kernel released for it17:31
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Ahhhh. Right.17:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> no, it has nothing to do with the kernel version either17:31
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's just that the phone kernels are built differently than you're used to with traditional PC linux installs17:32
ubptgbot<dohbee> the kernels are built with a very limited set of drivers built into the kernel directly (rather than loaded via modules), due to the tighter space and memory constraints of embedded devices17:33
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I see.17:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> also becuase people don't tend to attach arbitrary hardware to them17:33
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Raising the question, could this work on Raspbian or Ubuntu MATE for RPI?17:33
ubptgbot<dohbee> sure it would work17:34
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> It's by no means essential, I have desktops, it's more of a for science thing.17:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> it could work on phones too17:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> but it's not trivial to make work reliably across all devices17:34
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Sounds like that's the case for many Android phablets too according to a web search.17:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes, we use the same kernel as the android version of the device ships with17:35
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Indeed.17:35
ubptgbot<dohbee> and we only make some minor changes, like enabling apparmor or a couple of other small patches17:35
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> It's not like it's super easy to break out this BR player on the train, power it and maintain a stable OTG connection anyway. It's USB 3 standard and sometimes that can be finicky, in my experience anyway.17:37
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Even without that, I would probably have to attempt to rip a movie from the disk, downscale it to 480p with ffmpeg and then play it, because although we have stable video on VLC, the vlc-sdl-output package isn't optimised for HD.17:41
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> @sverzegnassi thank you yes, that would help users to determine which apps are particularly bloated and need to be managed for storage.17:46
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Why the pings though17:49
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Why did I tag you guys you mean?17:49
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Just to learn more about how the kernel works on mobile devices.17:51
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> Question? … I first installed: … VEGETA01A-S23A_BQ_L100EN_1013_160524 … I received advice, that using ubporta, I install a newer ... … I installed 15.04 / 3 and I was offered an upgrade. I upgraded to 15.04 / 15 ... I was told that this is also an old ... … Which version is the latest and suitable for BQ aquarisE5 HD..poz ...17:53
ubptgbotto the whole group17:53
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Afaik 15.04 OTA 3 is still a version by canonical. You still need to use the UBports installer to upgrade to the UBports version.17:55
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> [Edit] Afaik 15.04 OTA 15 is still a version by canonical. You still need to use the UBports installer to upgrade to the UBports version.17:56
ubptgbot<Christof> @vanyasem, Nice!18:00
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> otherwise, in some other variant, a better story with the BQ phone had ... Or, I should look for a better story with another phone, and then what !!!!18:01
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Zoran Aleksic, you want the `ubports-touch/15.04/stable` channel from the `system-image.ubports.com` server. you installed a canonical image that was an older version, and then i guess upgraded to the last version from canonical, as the old server seems to still be up. now that you have ubuntu on it, you need to re-flash using18:02
ubptgbot the ubports-installer18:02
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> @dohbee, how to persuade him to install me a new ... … And how's that new name ...18:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Zoran Aleksic, http://ubuntu-touch.io/install18:06
ubptgbot<andre_buesgen> Anyone using kodimote?18:08
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> @dohbee, Something so easy to use ... that I recommend it to everyone ....18:11
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> @dohbee, version 16.04 is the latest .. as beta18:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes, but if you want your phone to work reliably as a phone, the stable channel is what you want18:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> hmm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Touch really needs some updating in certain areas18:15
ubptgbot<Zoran Aleksic> I love, new ... like desktop..my is Ubuntu 18.04, from the moment of testing to the final .....18:16
ubptgbot<dohbee> well i guess you don't need to make emergency calls from your stationary PC, or receive calls from friends/family on it, or use it for GPS when you get lost in the city, or something :)18:18
ubptgbot<Thomas Wolfanger> @andre_buesgen, Yes...18:50
ubptgbot<andre_buesgen> @Thomas Wolfanger, Does the shutdown command work for you?18:51
ubptgbot<Thomas Wolfanger> Not tried yet. I'm going to test it.18:54
ubptgbot<andre_buesgen> Okay, thanks!18:55
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @dohbee, We have attempted to do that but the 'keeper' is not keen18:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> well it's not supposed to be first party stuff18:58
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> o_O19:13
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Vzuf6Sis.mp419:13
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @popescu_sorin, Looks like ios19:14
ubptgbot<samzn> @popescu_sorin, N9 and Palm were right :D19:14
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> yeah )19:14
ubptgbot<samzn> @PhoenixLandPirate, Android is confirmed the poor man's iPhone confirmed19:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> lol i wish19:14
ubptgbot<samzn> even with swipe gestures they are wasting screen space19:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> pixel is $800 phone19:15
ubptgbot<samzn> @dohbee, And windows phone will still receive updates longer than it...19:15
ubptgbot<K31j0> @samzn, Is that that motorola?19:15
ubptgbot<samzn> ya moto X2, port by @Mister1Magister19:16
ubptgbot<K31j0> kay19:16
ubptgbot<K31j0> is this still on that old tdesktop version?19:16
ubptgbot<samzn> ya19:16
ubptgbot<samzn> tdesktop is a nightmare to compile19:16
ubptgbot<samzn> but seems debian have packages in their repos now19:16
ubptgbot<samzn> for armv719:16
ubptgbot<K31j0> I want to compile that but19:17
ubptgbot<K31j0> google breakpad19:17
ubptgbot<K31j0> and stuff19:17
ubptgbot<K31j0> >~>19:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's not really built to work on UT, even once you do get it compiled19:17
ubptgbot<samzn> It should work beautifully19:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> i mean, yeah, it supports all the newer features, but the UX is not good19:18
ubptgbot<samzn> Only issue is lack of push notifications and UT doesnt have good background scheduling19:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> it shouldn't need background scheduling19:18
ubptgbot<K31j0> that needs libnotify shim19:18
ubptgbot<K31j0> the notification part19:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> it also doesn't deal well with the mic/camera access or other things19:19
ubptgbot<K31j0> or rework of notification pusher for the platform19:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> notifications need reworked, but that's unrelated to anything having to do with telegram-desktop19:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> if things didn't go the way they did a year ago, i might well be working on a better notifications framework right now19:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> alas19:20
ubptgbot<Flohack> @samzn, If you put that on your battery will die with all those desktop apps doing smth ;)19:25
ubptgbot<samzn> @Flohack, SFOS and N9 has a good scheduler that doesn't ruin battery19:26
ubptgbot<alan_morford> Fwd from alan_morford: Hey guys how is PC mode on UT on the n5?19:37
ubptgbot<vanyasem> broken19:37
ubptgbot<vanyasem> that’s my experience with it19:38
ubptgbot<vanyasem> libertine apps are broken, touchpad is broken19:38
ubptgbot<vanyasem> apart from that, it works19:38
ubptgbot<vanyasem> libertine = desktop apps19:38
ubptgbot<alan_morford> Bummer19:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> there is a weird bug that only affects nexus 5, which makes libertine apps not work19:40
ubptgbot<Thomas Wolfanger> @andre_buesgen, Doesn't work for me either. Only kodi is being stopped.19:43
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> No sound using the slimport19:43
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> I mean. It only sounds from the phone speakers19:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> @malditobastardo, this is true on all devices though19:45
ubptgbot<andre_buesgen> @Thomas Wolfanger, Maybe I will have a look at the source next weekend. Thanks for answering20:08
ubptgbot<Thomas Wolfanger> @andre_buesgen, 👍20:15
ubptgbotIvan was added by: Ivan23:05
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Ivan, Welcome Ivan. You have a really nice name23:06
ubptgbot<vanyasem> Take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started23:06
ubptgbot<amolith> @vanyasem, I think you're a little biased 😉23:10

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