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oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:52
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dufluMorning oSoMoN07:19
oSoMoNhey duflu07:23
Laneymoinington08:04
Laneylooks like my vps got rebooted at some point /o\08:04
oSoMoNmorning Laney08:05
willcookeoops, wrong channel by default.  Morning all!08:10
dufluMorning Laney, willcooke08:10
Laneyhey oSoMoN willcooke duflu08:14
jameshso, I got the portal-test app to write a file via the document portal: portal-test opened an out-of-process file chooser, xdg-desktop-portal instructed xdg-document-portal to make the chosen file writable to portal-test, portal-test wrote to the file under $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/doc, and the content appeared in the right location08:15
jameshnow to just get the remaining branches landed08:15
willcookejamesh, woot!  Nice one08:15
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke08:16
oSoMoNhey jamesh08:16
jameshhi oSoMoN08:16
willcookeTrevinho, typo in your forum post: git clone lp:~ubuntu-theam/my-package == git clone lp:~ubuntu-team/my-package ?08:19
willcookehttps://community.ubuntu.com/t/desktop-deb-packages-migration-to-git/574608:19
Nafallowillcooke: oh. no public holiday today? :-)08:44
Nafalloo/08:44
willcookeNafallo, yesterday08:44
Nafalloah. thought it'd be both :-)08:44
willcookeThe Frenchies have today and Thursday08:44
willcooke(and likely others too)08:45
Nafalloheh, and Sweden have Thursday, which means most people will take Friday as well ;-)08:45
Nafalloannoying month this.08:45
willcookeWise :)08:45
Nafallohehe. duflu is still working! :-P08:47
* duflu checks and is still in Western Australia08:48
Nafallooh. it's way earlier than I thought over there :-)08:49
dufluAlso, the future is now: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/pending/08:56
Nafalloso it's actually canimal then :-P08:58
dufluCAPITALS usually indicates that the word is a placeholder for something else09:05
Laneyyes but if you google canimal it shows you a thing that I hope remains the thing09:28
willcooke:))09:29
dufluReminiscent of phone device codenames :)09:30
Nafallopersonally I wouldn't mind a Cosmic Capybara ;-)09:33
Nafallooh. topic should be updated to the new trello board btw :-)09:35
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willcooke:)09:51
jbichawillcooke: are we having a desktop team meeting today without the Frenchies? (I'm fine either way)10:54
willcookejbicha, yeah, I think a quick one is worth doing11:13
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willcookeAnyone got any ideas as to what might be using a Facebook API in Ubuntu?  It's not ubports, so I think it could be either a Unity-online-accounts thing or an old phone thing11:28
willcookeand we're using GNOME for g-o-a now11:28
willcookeFaebook sent a message via IS to say we need to review our app, but afaik we're not using anything like that any more and it can probably die11:28
Nafallohmm. now you made me check Online Accounts, and I keep getting a warning symbol for the Ubuntu One account :-/11:29
willcookeNafallo, yeah, known issue, andyrock is looking at it11:29
Nafallogreat :-)11:29
Nafallowillcooke: hmm. maybe FB could provide some more details? if it's UOA it might still be used in 12.04 and 14.04?11:31
willcookeLooks like Shotwell uses it's own one now too11:33
Trevinhohey11:36
Trevinhowillcooke: oh, right... it was before dinner xD11:36
Laneyhey Trevinho11:36
Trevinhohi Laney11:41
Laneywhat's up11:42
Laneywhere are you now?11:42
Trevinhogood, Lisbon still11:49
Trevinhoi'll be fy to UK next sunday though11:49
Trevinhoflying*11:49
Laneywhattt11:50
Trevinhothere's the hackfest in cambridge11:51
TrevinhoI'll stay in London until 23 though, then11:51
Laneyoh yes this one11:51
TrevinhoLaney: you come a bit to the south one day? :)11:54
Laneyjust been in london for 10 days11:55
Laneyquite enough of that for me11:55
tjaaltonbah, dock disappeared.. how to get it back?11:55
Laneyyou should explore a non london part of england, they do exist you know!11:55
Trevinhooh, lazy! xD11:55
TrevinhoLaney: right... I've already been up tp York, some East. I do miss the center though. I could have done, but a friend (the mozilla guy) invited me to stay in London, so...11:56
Trevinhonext time I'll visit you, promised :-D11:56
willcooketjaalton, there's probably a better way, but install tweaks and reenable it might do the job?12:09
tjaaltonwillcooke: alt-f2; r12:09
tjaaltonthat worked fine12:09
tjaaltonfound it on askubuntu12:10
willcookeah, good to know thanlks12:10
Laneytjaalton: anything in the journal?12:10
tjaaltonstuff like12:13
tjaaltontouko 08 14:53:35 deckard.tyrell gnome-shell[5749]: JS ERROR: TypeError: this._monitor is undefined12:13
jbichawillcooke: account-plugin-facebook was part of Ubuntu 16.04 LTS so it still has 3 years of support remaining (it is part of UOA)12:31
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willcookejbicha, any ideas where the API keys are stored in LP for that?12:35
jbichawillcooke: source account-plugins  in debian/rules12:37
willcookethanks jbicha12:38
willcooketrello playing up for anyone else?13:11
willcookemeh, working now13:11
willcooke..and now it;s not13:12
willcookehttps://www.trellostatus.com/13:17
willcookeits down13:17
sil2100Yeah, just started wondering what happened to the autopkgtest board13:27
Nafallomeetingtime! :-D13:30
jbichao/13:30
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-05-0813:30
meetingologyMeeting started Tue May  8 13:30:58 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.13:30
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willcookeRoll call:  andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks (out), duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)13:31
kenvandine\o13:31
oSoMoNo/13:31
andyrocko/13:32
willcookeLet's get started13:32
willcooke#topic andyrock13:32
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andyrock#1 Fixes proposed upstream for LP: #1759468 (it tooks some time because it was a memory corruption issue)13:32
andyrock#2 Some other fixed proposed upstreams for random warnings in gnome-control-centers13:32
andyrock#3 Fix proposed for LP: #175125213:32
andyrock#4 Fix proposed for LP: #1768786 (no need to upstream it considering that it's a ubuntu specific issue)13:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 1759468 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center (11) gtk_style_context_clear_property_cache → gtk_css_widget_node_update_style → gtk_css_node_ensure_style → gtk_css_node_ensure_style → gtk_css_node_validate_internal" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175946813:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 1751252 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] ubiquity crashed in debconf.py:104 with ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175125213:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 1768786 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Screen is displayed when resuming from suspend" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176878613:32
andyrock#5 Debugged the expiring-after-24h ubuntu sso accounts (opened a bug against snapstore: LP: #1769878)13:32
andyrock#6 Some bug triaging13:32
andyrock#7 Adapting sso dialog in software-properties-gtk according to https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues/6213:32
andyrock#8 Adapting sso dialog in gnome-initial-setup according to https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/desktop-design/issues/6213:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 1769878 in Snap Store "/api/v1/snaps/purchases/customers/me does not ask for refreshed tokens" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176987813:32
andyrockeow13:32
ubot5-ng`CanonicalLtd bug 62 in desktop-design "Authentication in gnome-software using gnome-online-accounts" (comments: 21) [Priority: High, Review: Ux +1, Closed] - Assigned to matthewpaulthomas (Matthew Thomas)13:32
ubot5bug 62 in Launchpad itself "Maintainers can add themselves to the CC: list too" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/6213:32
andyrock*took13:33
willcookethanks andyrock13:33
willcooke#topic dgadomski13:33
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willcookeAre you around?13:33
dgadomskihey13:33
dgadomskisadly nothing desktop-related to share this time13:33
dgadomskieof13:33
willcookethanks dgadomski13:33
willcooke#topic didrocks13:33
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willcookeOne day off (Tuesday)13:33
willcooke* Ubiquity:13:33
willcooke  - more ubiquity debugging and hunting. Fix for shutdown https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/fix-crash-on-reboot/+merge/34421513:33
willcooke  - more and more ubiquity debugging on release day, trying as well to reproduce an issue and a lot of tests/chitchat about those.13:33
willcooke* Communitheme:13:33
willcooke  - made it arch: all, removing the arch-dependent part, so that Travis CI ships in one build for everyone (no option of doing commit build for all archs before). It also drops 1Mb.13:33
willcooke  - fix electron and GTK2 support from the snap: https://github.com/ubuntu/communitheme-snap-helpers/commit/9540454e9bf3e32d5509937fa5527231d0b58b7313:34
willcooke  - move those tools and implements "setting gdm default theme to communitheme" with a new snap communitheme-set-default. Fights some bugs in snapcraft. Now pending on classic mode approval: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/classic-confinement-request-communitheme-set-default/13:34
willcooke  - adapt doc to latest and guide communitheme on how to release the stable snap themselves13:34
willcooke  - last interview published and supports to bugs/questions over the hub.13:34
willcooke  - more discussion with the core communitheme team about workflow, liaisons about interaction with the global community, potential theme names13:34
willcooke  - file some bug reports on latest changes (https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-communitheme/issues/173)13:34
ubot5-ng`ubuntu bug 173 in gnome-shell-communitheme "Transparent top panel when in opaque state creates some mind boggling use case" (comments: 3) [Enhancement, Open]13:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 173 in Baz (deprecated) "Failure to get passphrase right causes "CHECKSUM FILE(S) DISAGREE WITH DIRECTORY LISTING"" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17313:34
willcooke* Ubuntu-report:13:34
willcooke  - implements a classic snap for the CLI, with even shell completion and tests running during snap build. However, stuck on a golang available version, using thus core18 for this, but this triggers a snapcraft bug while building: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/building-on-core18-failure-on-pulling-core18-on-build-snapcraft-io/5204.13:34
willcooke  - add telemetry support for upgrades. Waiting for a review (please review!): https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu-release-upgrader/add_telemetry/+merge/345088. Tested upgrade with those from 17.10 on ubuntu text and graphical mode as well as Kubuntu in graphical mode.13:34
willcooke* Misc:13:34
willcooke  - snapcraft/snapd broke the ubuntu-make snap. Helping as possible the new upstream developers (he tried on the forum and didn't get much help…). https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/ld-library-path-in-classic-snap/13:34
willcooke  - SRU gnome-session migration script https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/172031013:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1720310 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "unity-gnome-shell-migration.18.08.py crashed with signal 5 in g_object_new_valist() due to gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock not installed" [Medium,Triaged]13:34
willcooke  - some sponsoring and reviews (ubiquity and update-manager)13:34
willcooke#topic duflu13:35
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willcooke* 18.04 installer crash regression (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751252)13:35
willcooke  - Fixed the root cause (cairo) and proposed upstream: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98883#c613:35
willcooke  - Also tested and verified andyrock's workaround/fix for ubiquity.13:35
willcooke  - Either one works alone, but both really should be fixed.13:35
willcooke* 18.04 Gnome Shell visual regressions:13:35
ubot5-ng`bugs.freedesktop.org bug 98883 in xlib backend "BadAccess errors in ShmAttach due to thread races with XNextRequest() usage in cairo-xlib-surface-shm.c" [Normal, New] - Assigned to chris13:35
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1751252 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "[regression] ubiquity crashed in debconf.py:104 with ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''" [High,In progress]13:35
willcooke  - Panel and menus are clipped when in zoom (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767648)13:35
ubot5Freedesktop bug 98883 in xlib backend "BadAccess errors in ShmAttach due to thread races with XNextRequest() usage in cairo-xlib-surface-shm.c" [Normal,New]13:35
ubot5bug 98883 in kdebase (Ubuntu) "Crash in KDE inhibits shutdown" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/9888313:35
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1767648 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Top bar and shell dialogs are not displayed properly when zoom is enabled" [Undecided,In progress]13:35
willcooke    . Spent another day on it, with limited progress: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/5213:35
ubot5-ng`GNOME bug (Merge request) 52 in mutter "clutter: Fix clipping of cloned actors with offscreen effects" (comments: 13) [Opened]13:35
willcooke* Gnome Shell performance:13:35
willcooke  - Work in progress: I've been dragged back in to revisit and redesign mipmapping. But the performance improvement is worth it (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/89). More news next week.13:35
willcooke* PulseAudio:13:35
ubot5-ng`GNOME bug (Merge request) 89 in mutter "MetaShapedTexture: Disable mipmapping (emulation)" (comments: 22) [Closed]13:35
willcooke  - There was a recent regression in xenial-updates (nothing to do with me though I did have to clean up some git mistakes): https://launchpad.net/bugs/176778413:35
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1767784 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "[regression] output device not recognized anymore since update 1:8.0-0ubuntu3.9" [High,Fix released]13:35
willcooke* Gnome Control Center:13:36
willcooke  - Fixed a surprising little power button bug (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/39)13:36
ubot5-ng`GNOME bug (Merge request) 39 in gnome-control-center "Rename misleading "Power Off" option." (comments: 4) [3. Expected Behavior, Opened]13:36
willcooke* Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.13:36
willcooke  - Still getting above average bug mail, but lower than expected for an LTS release :)13:36
willcooke  - More good news than bad this week: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive13:36
willcooke* Next week I am away Mon-Tue. Back on Wed.13:36
willcooke#topic jbicha13:36
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jbicha• Synced xdg-desktop-portal 0.11 to bionic with initial preparation for Snap support13:36
jbicha• Uploaded first gnome-initial-setup SRU13:36
jbicha• Uploaded gimp 2.10 to Debian & 18.10. See https://www.gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.10.html13:36
jbicha(But it broke Ubuntu Studio daily images for 18.10. It's being worked on. See ubuntu-release list for details.)13:36
jbicha• Uploaded bolt to Debian. Thanks seb128 for the initial packaging in bionic.13:36
jbicha• Demoting devhelp to universe to avoid a MIR for a new library in its next major release13:36
jbicha• More work on removing gconf from Debian Testing. Blockers are pulseaudio (fixed upstream) and eclipse13:36
jbicha• Some GNOME 3.28.2 updates (this is the final scheduled project-wide GNOME 3.28 release)13:36
jbicha• New fonts-noto-color-emoji release in bionic LP: #176673613:36
ubot5Launchpad bug 1766736 in fonts-noto-color-emoji (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update Noto Emoji to April 2018" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176673613:36
jbicha🔫 (eof)13:37
willcookethanks jbicha13:37
willcookewhile I remember - seb128 and I had a quick think last week the fixes we need in .1 and we figured that we should hold off upgrading GNOME et al in 18.10 until 18.04.1 is out.  WDYT?13:37
jbichawe can talk about that later, that's not really how SRUs work though…13:38
willcookekk13:38
willcooke#topic jamesh13:39
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willcookesnapd - portals:13:39
willcooke- discovered some problems with the document-portal support branch on13:39
willcookesystems without document portal.  Put together a branch to add an13:39
willcooke"ignore if missing" mode for mounts:13:39
willcookehttps://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/512613:39
willcooke- Ran an end-to-end test of file open/save using a snapped version of13:39
ubot5-ng`snapcore bug (Pull request) 5126 in snapd "cmd/snap-update-ns: add support for ignoring mounts with missing source/target" (comments: 1) [Open]13:39
willcookethe portal-test test program.13:39
willcooke   - discovered an AppArmor denial related to the "requests" feature13:39
willcookeused by the file open portal13:39
willcooke   - with that fixed, the file open/save portals work: portal-test13:39
willcookeasks xdg-desktop-portal to show file chooser, xdg-desktop-portal asks13:40
willcookexdg-document-portal to make selected file available to portal-test,13:40
willcookexdg-desktop-portal returns $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/doc/ path back to13:40
willcookeportal-test, which is then readable/writable under confinement.13:40
willcooke   - I'm putting together a forum post about how this is all tied13:40
willcooketogether: will hopefully post it tomorrow.13:40
willcookesnapd - evolution-data-server:13:40
willcooke - started work on some command line utilities that can be used to13:40
willcookeconstruct a spread test for Ken's existing eds snap interface PR.13:40
willcooke#topic kenvandine13:40
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kenvandine* Worked on hyper-v desktop images, we now have a fully functioning desktop image that boots on hyper-v with the enhanced session type using xrdp.  Two issues left before calling it done:13:40
kenvandine  - Quiet a grub warning13:40
kenvandine  - gnome-initial-setup is running with the upstream pages rather than oem-config, which is keeping us from running gnome-initial-setup with our "Ubuntu Welcome" pages on first login.13:40
kenvandine* Sponsoring tkamppeter's fixes for https://bugs.launchpad.net/cups-pk-helper/+bug/93429113:40
kenvandine13:40
ubot5Ubuntu bug 934291 in cups-pk-helper (Ubuntu) "Deleting or stopping print jobs does not work" [Critical,In progress]13:40
willcookethanks kenvandine13:41
willcooke#topic Laney13:41
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Laney• short week this week, previous week was release sprint - some late nights...13:41
Laney• autopkgtest sprint: did some stuff13:41
Laney∘ trained two newbies on how it all works13:41
Laney∘ then we worked on some features, like you can now see the requester on the index page, and soon release team members will be able to reset the status of tests so that it's as if they never passed before (an 'accepted regression')13:41
Laney∘ started rolling out bos01 (new cloud region), which uses a new Openstack API so had to modify stuff to deal with that13:41
Laney∘ using our own cloud images instead of the 'upstream' ones all of the time now - no more race with unattended-upgrades13:41
Laney• then looked at gnome-shell 227 which is looking like a problem in gdm https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/227 waiting for Trevinho or halfline or someone to give their opinion13:41
ubot5-ng`GNOME bug 227 in gnome-shell "Login fails when preceded by incorrect password" (comments: 21) [Opened]13:41
ubot5Error: Gnome bug 227 could not be found13:41
Laney• reviewed / discussed Andrea's perms fix for ubiquity, uploaded to cosmic13:41
Laney• responded to Trevinho's thread on git for packaging, glad to see that underway13:41
Laney🍹13:41
Laneybots are the future13:42
willcookethanks Laney13:42
willcooke#topic oSoMoN13:42
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oSoMoNhey13:42
oSoMoN• firefox13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ fixed a startup crash in the snap caused by the new bindtextdomain preload hook, which was freeing memory a bit too liberally (https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/112)13:42
ubot5-ng`ubuntu bug (Pull request) 112 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "Always free snap_locale_path, and null freed variables to avoid double-free corruption." (comments: 0) [Closed]13:42
oSoMoN• chromium13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ working on a snap built from source13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ fixed various build failures and updated PPAs to the latest upstream releases for stable (66), beta (67) and dev (68) channels13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ chromium 66.0.3359.139 finishing building in stage PPA, will soon be ready for {xenial,artful,bionic}-security, and the corresponding snap is currently in the candidate channel13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ chromium 66 won't build on trusty, upstream continues pushing aggressively for new C++ features that are not supported by the libstdc++ in trusty, and reverting those changes has become too involved and costly. I'm going to talk to the security team to get their perspective, hopefully it's okay to officially stop pushing chromium updates to trusty (chromium is in universe) and focus on the snap instead (which ru13:42
oSoMoNns well on trusty)13:42
oSoMoN• libreoffice13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ tested rebuilding the snap against core18 in a bionic container, and reported issues on the forum (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/core18-issues/5216)13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ built snap for 6.0.4 RC2 (final release scheduled for this week), tested, published to the candidate channel and issued a call for testing (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-6-0-4/5319)13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ ricot_z is preparing the 6.0.4 update for the deb packages in a PPA, thanks!13:42
oSoMoN• snaps13:42
oSoMoN  ∘ started looking into https://trello.com/c/k0BFqgjO/344-gnome-shell-search-providers-from-snaps, wrote a proposal and requested comments from the snapd/security teams (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/gnome-shell-search-providers-in-snaps/5265)13:42
oSoMoN🌻13:43
willcookethanks oSoMoN13:43
willcooke#topic tkamppeter13:43
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tkamppeter- cups-filters: Tested and debugged re-generating cups-browsed-generated queues which got externally overwritten, committed changes to GIT.13:43
tkamppeter- ippusbxd: Tested pull request with major changes from Chrome OS developer David Valleau in USB/Socket communication and reported problems, got fixes and improvements. Shortly before release.13:43
tkamppeter- cups-pk-helper: Submitted debdiffs for using cups-pk-helper system user for SRU.13:43
tkamppeter- Google Summer of Code 2018: Community bonding period, instructed students on preparing for the coding.13:43
tkamppeter- Preparations for OpenPrinting Summit 2018 trip next week.13:43
tkamppeter- Bugs.13:43
willcookethanks tkamppeter, hope you have a good trip13:44
willcooke#topic Trevinho13:44
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Trevinhocoming... :)13:44
jbichaoSoMoN: btw, Debian bug 898116 is an interesting LO-related bug I'm looking at SRUing13:44
ubot5Debian bug 898116 in fonts-liberation "fonts-liberation: font metrics changed in 1:1.07.4-3" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/89811613:44
Trevinho· Debugging for not-logging in bug13:44
Trevinho· Fixes on the GDM launch environment (now it runs in jhbuild too!)13:44
Trevinho  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79588613:44
Trevinho· Fix for libICE to save authority file in xdg-runtime (fixes potential bug13:44
Trevinho  causing login hang, even after restart):13:44
Trevinho  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10643213:44
Trevinho· Fixes for a mutter crash on window destroynotify event13:44
ubot5Gnome bug 795886 in general "Some environment variables are not preserved when launching greeter and apps" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:44
ubot5-ng`bugzilla.gnome.org bug 795886 in general "Some environment variables are not preserved when launching greeter and apps" [Normal, Resolved: Fixed] - Assigned to gdm-maint13:44
Trevinho  https://gitlab.gnome.org/3v1n0/mutter/commit/993a40c13:44
Trevinho· Started some discussion about moving packages to git:13:44
Trevinho  https://community.ubuntu.com/t/desktop-deb-packages-migration-to-git/574613:44
ubot5-ng`bugs.freedesktop.org bug 106432 in Lib/ICE "authutil: save IceAuthFile on XDG_RUNTIME_DIR if set" [Normal, New] - Assigned to xorg-team13:44
Trevinho· Various other errors debugging in mutter and shell mostly13:44
ubot5Freedesktop bug 106432 in Lib/ICE "authutil: save IceAuthFile on XDG_RUNTIME_DIR if set" [Normal,New]13:44
Trevinho· Reproposed Gtk menu fix13:44
Trevinho  https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/merge_requests/14013:44
ubot5bug 793522 in OpenLP "duplicate for #795886 Bible-upgrade wizard keeps running" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79352213:44
ubot5bug 106432 in adept (Ubuntu) "adept package manager keeps refuses to install" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10643213:45
ubot5-ng`GNOME bug (Merge request) 140 in gtk "MenuShell: activate a menu item before deactivating its parent" (comments: 0) [Opened]13:45
Trevinho🍉13:45
willcookethanks Trevinho13:45
oSoMoNjbicha, ack, thanks for taking care of it13:45
willcooke#topic AOB13:46
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willcookeAnyone got anythiing?13:46
willcookeoh, lemme see if I have an update from Robert, I don't think I do13:46
willcookeno13:47
willcookeanyone got anything else?13:47
kenvandinenot me13:47
willcookegoing in 5...13:47
willcooke#endmeeting13:47
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue May  8 13:47:53 2018 UTC.13:47
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-05-08-13.30.moin.txt13:47
willcookethanks everyone13:47
oSoMoNthanks13:47
Nafallothat was 9 ;-)13:48
willcookeNafallo, I was working on something more important at the time.... why can't I get colour emoji in Characters?13:48
Nafallowillcooke: *grin*13:48
Nafalloubot5-ng: wb :-)13:49
jbichawillcooke: do you have fonts-noto-color-emoji installed? are you on bionic?13:49
ubot5-ngNafallo: Error: "wb" is not a valid command.13:49
jbichaubot5-ng: invalid13:50
ubot5-ngjbicha: Error: "invalid" is not a valid command.13:50
Nafallohrm. I think it needs that elisa plugin ;-)13:50
Nafalloeliza maybe?13:51
willcookejbicha, yes and yes.  If I right click I can insert them, but Character Map doesn't sow them13:51
willcookeshow13:51
Laneythat's the old thing13:51
willcookejust realised that, so I manually installed the snap13:52
willcookekenvandine, expected? ^13:52
Laneythat we didn't install it on upgrades?13:52
Laneythat was a decision13:52
jbichawillcooke: maybe you're using the edge channel snap or something? snap info gnome-characters13:52
willcookeahhhh, right13:52
jbichaoh you're talking about gucharmap? that doesn't support color emoji at all, you need gnome-characters13:53
kenvandineindeed13:53
oSoMoNkenvandine, have you seen my last comment on https://github.com/ibus/ibus/issues/1996 ? not sure whether adding your github handle in a comment resulted in a notification13:56
ubot5-ngibus bug 1996 in ibus "ibus_bus_init does an unconditional call to chmod on $HOME/.config/ibus/bus" (comments: 5) [Closed]13:56
ubot5bug 1996 in Launchpad itself ""Upload" link is missing for individual po files" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/199613:56
kenvandineoSoMoN, i saw the notification but was busy13:56
kenvandinelet me look now13:56
oSoMoNkenvandine, no urgency, just a snap that needs rebuilding to pick up a fix in libibus13:57
oSoMoNbut the warning is harmless, so very low priority13:57
kenvandineoSoMoN, gnome-logs was rebuilt recently13:59
kenvandinei wonder if we have a version of ibus in the backports ppa that doesn't have the fix13:59
oSoMoNah, I haven't checked that14:00
kenvandine 1.5.14-2ubuntu114:00
kenvandineoSoMoN, can you upload that same patch to the backports ppa?14:01
kenvandinebasically the same as your SRU14:01
kenvandineoSoMoN, you are in ~ubuntu-desktop now :)14:02
oSoMoNkenvandine, yep, I'll do that nowz14:02
oSoMoN-z14:02
kenvandineoSoMoN, thx14:02
kenvandineonce it's built in the ppa ping me14:02
kenvandinei'll rebuild the snaps in candidate for some testing14:03
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andyrockwillcooke: how much we care about canonical-livepatch and Ubuntu flavours?14:15
andyrockwillcooke: e.g. I guess xubuntu ships software-properties-gtk but not the patched gnome-online-accounts14:16
andyrockwillcooke: or any gnome-online-accounts at all14:16
andyrockwillcooke: should I patch software-properties to hide it if the current desktop is not ubuntu:GNOME?14:17
willcookeandyrock, it's be grand if they could use it.  I'd like us to move as much stuff out of the older app (e.g. Software & Updates, printing settings, etc) in to GNOME Settings this cycle, so something to think about there.  I think for now though, the best thing to do is ask the flavours that use software-properties-gtk what they'd like to do.  I'd like to encourage as many people as we can to use it14:18
andyrockI'm installing xubuntu on a vm to check what they ship14:18
jbichaandyrock: I believe GOA should work for Budgie and Unity too14:18
andyrockjbicha: /join #xubuntu14:21
andyrocksorry14:21
andyrock:D14:21
jbichaI think Cinnamon also implemented a GOA frontend so Xubuntu could do it but it would take some development work14:23
andyrockwillcooke, jbicha they don't even use gnome-control-center14:25
andyrockI think for the moment we should hide it, otherwise we get a lot of reports14:26
jbichagnome-control-center won't work outside GNOME (or Budgie) at a minimum because of the OnlyShowIn keys (it also expects gnome-settings-daemon plugins to be running)14:27
andyrockI'm thinking about the best way to hide the checkbutton without hardcoding it14:32
Laneyandyrock: don't you depend on GOA?14:34
andyrockon the lib yes14:34
andyrocknot on the provider (in this case gnome-control-center)14:34
andyrockin theory we could make software-properties-gtk a provider14:35
andyrockbut that requires to build gir for goa-backend too14:35
andyrockwe really need to start a conversation with gnome upstream to improve the goa api14:38
andyrockthey're too tied to the provider14:38
Laneyyou can look for control-center being dbus activatable14:39
LaneyListActivatableNames14:39
Laneyor load its desktop file and check OnlyShowIn dynamically14:39
Laneyg_app_info_should_show14:40
andyrockLaney: kk thanks14:44
oSoMoNkenvandine, the amd64 build of ibus that I pushed to the gnome-3-26 PPA appears to be hung, it's taking way too long to run the tests14:44
oSoMoNI'll cancel it and rebuild it, if you don't mind14:44
andyrockLaney, willcooke, jbicha I also opened a trello board regarding goa api: https://trello.com/c/iQWtgD1F/83-start-a-conversation-with-gnome-upstream-to-improve-the-gnome-online-accounts-api14:44
Laneyk14:45
Laneywe forgot to review rls bugs in the meeting btw14:45
Laneybrb14:45
tintou@andyrock https://debarshiray.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/goa-why-it-is-the-way-it-is/ that's why we are not using GOA in elementary FYI14:47
ubot5-ngtintou: Error: "andyrock" is not a valid command.14:47
GunnarHjLaney, jbicha: It would be good if we could revisit and finalize bug #1762889. The latest patch I submitted ought to still apply except for the d/changelog part, but then there was some discussion about help-* templates in general.14:47
ubot5bug 1762889 in pkgbinarymangler (Ubuntu) "dh_translations doesn't strip .desktop files when more than 1 pot target with meson" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176288914:47
kenvandineoSoMoN, sure14:50
jbichaGunnarHj: I defer to you and L_aney on that but I would like the change to be SRU'd to bionic14:51
GunnarHjjbicha: Ok. Agree on SRUing.14:54
andyrockLaney: I can also use the desktop file of the online-accounts panel14:59
andyrockLaney: just in case someone is shipping gnome-control-center without that panel14:59
Laneyandyrock: that seems really niche, I'm not sure this is useful at all outside of Ubuntu, but ok...15:19
LaneyGunnarHj: I know about it, and I don't care about SRUing so if one of you wants to do that you can take care of it15:19
Laneybut I'll review soon-ish, honest!15:21
oSoMoNkenvandine, ibus rebuilt with my patch and published in the gnome-3-26 PPA15:30
GunnarHjLaney: Ok. Let's get it in for cosmic first, so we know what to SRU. ;) I'll update the patch with a couple of details, to please wait with reviewing until tomorrow.15:31
kenvandineoSoMoN, thx15:36
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flocculantandyrock: #xubuntu-devel would be a better channel for questions next time :)16:55
andyrockkk17:01
flocculantwillcooke: what did you mean by 'ask flavours using software-properties what they want to do' ? were you referring to canonical-livepatch?17:05
willcookeflocculant, yeah17:05
flocculantwillcooke: okey doke - I'll add that to our list of stuff for 18.10 if you want17:06
flocculantI know it doesn't work :)17:06
willcookeflocculant, it only supports LTSes.17:06
andyrockflocculant: canonical-livepatch only works on lts17:06
* oSoMoN calls it a day17:07
flocculantwell it wasn't working last week for me in 18.0417:07
willcookeflocculant, basically, enable it (install the snap, apply a key - which s-p-gtk can do for you) and sit back and relax17:07
willcookeflocculant, there aren't any live patches available yet17:07
* willcooke checks the time17:07
flocculantwillcooke: couldn't do it - didn't get further than a hanging password entry17:07
tsimonq2The contents of what goes in here is open source, correct? (I know livepatch isn't).17:08
willcookeflocculant, oh, interesting.  Using s-p-gtk?  andyrock might be able to help debug that17:08
tsimonq2(If I wanted to grab the exact things applied, could I?)17:08
andyrockflocculant: on Ubuntu or Xubuntu?17:09
flocculantwillcooke: if it needs a snap - could be why it failed17:09
flocculantandyrock: xubuntu17:09
willcooketsimonq2, not sure I'm afraid - would need to check with the kernel team17:09
andyrockwell xubuntu is not supported17:09
andyrockbecause it does not ship gnome-control-center17:09
andyrockI'll proposed a fix to hide the UI if gnome-control-center is not there17:09
andyrockI'll SRU it too17:09
flocculantaah - so that I assume then is what the conversation about earlier?17:10
andyrockflocculant: yep17:10
willcooketsimonq2, best to ask in #ubuntu-kernel whenever you're back17:10
tsimonq2willcooke: OK17:10
flocculantandyrock: ok - cheers17:10
* tsimonq2 's away message is set for phone notifications...17:10
* flocculant goes back to waiting for the next xubuntu ping from this channel17:11
tsimonq2flocculant: Xubuntu ping. :P17:13
willcookeOh, cuttlefish17:13
willcookehttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/152117:13
* flocculant adds tsimonq2 to his ignore list :p17:15
willcookenight all, planning to be off tomorrow too, but I'll be around if anything crops up18:43
robert_ancelljbicha, how did you generate 0001-Add-Ubuntu-mode-with-special-pages.patch in gnome-initial-setup 3.28.0-2ubuntu7?21:02
jbichait was a bit messier because of the merge commits21:03
jbichanormally I would use gbp pq import ; git cherry-pick  ; gbp pq export21:03
jbichaand then I added the patch filename to d/source/include-binaries21:04
jbichabut I squashed the commits before exporting21:04
robert_ancelljbicha, why squash them?21:09
jbichaprobably the same reason you rebased and force pushed :)21:10
robert_ancelljbicha, and it's stored in debian git?21:11
jbichathe gitlab repo looks better now so I wouldn't need to squash now21:11
jbichait's only stored locally since it was a bit ambiguous where to push since we sort of weren't supposed to be using git officially yet :|21:12
jbichamy git branch isn't much to see here anyway21:13
robert_ancelljbicha, so I'm still confused - can we drop in git patches or do they need to be reformatted to work?21:16
jbichaadd a git remote; run gbp pq import; git cherry-pick what you want ; gbp pq export21:18
jbichaif the patch is a binary patch, it needs to be listed in d/source/include-binaries21:19
jbichano other reformatting or squashing needed21:19
jbichathe squashing was just because the ubuntu-welcome repo was a bit messy21:19

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