| waldo323 | good morning | 11:20 |
|---|---|---|
| rick_h_ | no, it's definitely not good | 12:00 |
| jrwren | why not? | 12:16 |
| waldo323 | oi :-\ then i hope it improves | 12:21 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: What happened? | 12:25 |
| rick_h_ | sorry, internet issues | 12:28 |
| rick_h_ | got hung up on first tech person | 12:28 |
| rick_h_ | told that "everything is fine" from the second person and when I explain that my cameras show that at 12:57am internet went out and that everything works internally but as soon as a hardwired device attempts to ping a static IP through the gateway it fails... | 12:28 |
| rick_h_ | so now waiting on "Tier 2" support to call me wheeee | 12:28 |
| rick_h_ | business class service at its best | 12:29 |
| cmaloney | Oh that's nice of them | 12:29 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I mean I had to do "put yourself in my shoes. So you say everything is fine I'm explaining how it's not. If we hang up, who am I supposed to call next?" | 12:29 |
| cmaloney | Help me do your job for you because frankly you're not doing a good job of it. ;) | 12:30 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, diagnosing internet issues isn't fun | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | oh look, and now it's magically back without me turning any knobs | 12:31 |
| cmaloney | especially when they require sending someone out. They really don't like to do that | 12:31 |
| rick_h_ | almost as if something was wrong upstream... | 12:31 |
| cmaloney | quelle surprise | 12:31 |
| cmaloney | Did someone @ comcastcares | 12:32 |
| cmaloney | or is it xfinitysaysgofuckyourself? | 12:32 |
| cmaloney | I can't keep up | 12:32 |
| rick_h_ | comcast business | 12:32 |
| rick_h_ | so I get to keep using the C-word for now | 12:32 |
| cmaloney | w00t | 12:34 |
| rick_h_ | lol and everything starts coming through from reminders/etc | 12:34 |
| cmaloney | nice | 12:35 |
| cmaloney | So the Comcast side is the side that doesn't try to upsell you 10 different cable bundles every time you call them? | 12:35 |
| cmaloney | "My internet is busted" "We're here to help you, sire; now, would you like HBO with that?" | 12:36 |
| cmaloney | sire | 12:36 |
| cmaloney | Apparently that's the medieval support person | 12:36 |
| waldo323 | because the support is from the dark ages | 12:38 |
| cmaloney | Wouldnt' surprise me if COmcast / Xfinity built a time machine so they could use peasants from the middle ages for call center support | 12:39 |
| cmaloney | "Now, when you say 'computer' what device are you speaking of, good sir" | 12:39 |
| cmaloney | "Be glad it's a mouse and not a rat; you'll catch the plague from those buggers" | 12:40 |
| cmaloney | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa_hiLXLbTc | 12:40 |
| rick_h_ | so taking bets on if comcast tier 2 actually calls to verify that things are ok or not | 12:45 |
| rick_h_ | or if they just see the traffic graph spike up and run off and go "welp my work here is done" | 12:46 |
| cmaloney | They're waiting to see if the magic beans they sprinked on the router took hold | 12:46 |
| cmaloney | then you'll get the "yup, seems to be working" | 12:47 |
| rick_h_ | heh, got the call from tier 2 person | 13:51 |
| jrwren | did they explain anything? | 13:51 |
| rick_h_ | guess they did maint on a major box that services the area last night and they forgot to configure something that enables all static ip customers | 13:51 |
| rick_h_ | so thousands of business customers in the area knocked out | 13:52 |
| jrwren | damn!!!! | 13:52 |
| jrwren | osunds like business class is second class. | 13:52 |
| rick_h_ | the crazy part is how tier 1 said nothing was wrong in the area | 13:52 |
| rick_h_ | but it sure seems that should come up that hey "every business customer in this area's called to report issues" | 13:53 |
| jrwren | yup, terrible system | 13:53 |
| rick_h_ | anyway, I'll stop my bitching now | 13:54 |
| cmaloney | heh | 14:09 |
| cmaloney | So, telling a recruiter that you feel left behind in the commercial side of computing: good move or great move? :) | 14:10 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 14:12 |
| brousch | Is the recruiter working for you, or for a company? | 15:21 |
| brousch | I have recruiters I would feel comfortable telling that, and they would work with me to get the needed skills | 15:22 |
| cmaloney | For a company ultimately | 15:43 |
| cmaloney | not sure how it is on the west side but most of the recruiters I've experienced here couldn't be bothered to help out | 15:45 |
| brousch | I have cultivated relationships with a couple of them outside of work | 15:45 |
| cmaloney | You usually get about one or two months of a recruiter's attention before they move on to other prospects | 15:45 |
| brousch | handcrafted artisinal recruiters | 15:46 |
| cmaloney | and unless you make it through a company's hiring process and land a job they don't kindle that relationship | 15:46 |
| cmaloney | heh | 15:46 |
| cmaloney | and once you leave a job my experience is there are few recruiters that will continue the relationship | 15:46 |
| cmaloney | there are some that did | 15:46 |
| cmaloney | but I've lost touch with them | 15:47 |
| cmaloney | unlike a realtor that we ran into a long time ago that still calls me | 15:47 |
| cmaloney | (this might also be because i rarely give out my phone number) | 15:47 |
| rick_h_ | so over/under of new chat systems at google i/o this year is set at 2 | 16:43 |
| greg-g | le sigh | 16:46 |
| greg-g | we already had a "make a google chat bot for Wikimedia's Phabricator" task. I ain't going to do it. Been burned too many times already. | 16:46 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: ah ouch | 16:48 |
| cmaloney | I'm sure they'll converge them together in some fashion | 16:48 |
| cmaloney | But yeah, anyone who thought Allo was going to do anything wasn't paying attention | 16:48 |
| cmaloney | Hangouts going to Enterprise only is a real pisser though | 16:49 |
| cmaloney | or Enterprise Focused | 16:49 |
| cmaloney | since that's essentially all of my chat online | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | well that's going to meet | 16:49 |
| rick_h_ | thuogh I wish work work turn it on and migrate it on that account | 16:50 |
| cmaloney | Duo is just silly since it's for phones only | 16:50 |
| greg-g | I think our org won't enable google meet until we have to | 16:50 |
| * rick_h_ still uses hangouts in inbox so he can text his wife from the computer | 16:50 | |
| cmaloney | but then again, anyone complaining about no desktop support for chat is yelling at the kids to get off their lawn | 16:51 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: so far my testing shows it's doing better than hangouts | 16:51 |
| greg-g | cool | 16:51 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: I've set it up on my personal domain and been doing some testing on there. The biggest :( is that the quality slider is gone and you have to go into settings to flip down quality for low bandwidth connections | 16:51 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: or just sits behind a computer by day heh | 16:51 |
| * cmaloney is just going to use Jitsi and Mastodon DMs | 16:52 | |
| cmaloney | screw y'all, I'm going to talk to myself | 16:52 |
| cmaloney | What will likely happen is folks will move completely to Discord | 16:52 |
| cmaloney | and then we'll get to see how awful they are when they have more power over users. | 16:52 |
| * cmaloney is wondering when he started channeling John C Dvorak levels of curmudgeon | 16:53 | |
| greg-g | rick_h_: oh that sucks, I use that all the time on slow connections. | 16:54 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: yea, same here | 16:54 |
| greg-g | and only imagine I'll be doing it more once our travels start :) | 16:54 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: but overall video/audio quality is better so far | 16:54 |
| greg-g | cool | 16:54 |
| cmaloney | The sad thing is I'm starting to think that OwnCloud et al folks are getting it right for the wrong reasons | 16:54 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: I still haven't tried discord... | 16:54 |
| cmaloney | it's not the privacy concerns, it's the deprecation concerns | 16:55 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Honestly it's my least favorite of all of them | 16:55 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCb-WcxO5SU&t=51s | 16:55 |
| cmaloney | it's like IRC / Slack but with less utility and more ways to put garbage in the timeline | 16:55 |
| greg-g | oh goody | 16:56 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: Hah | 16:56 |
| === ColonelPanic002_ is now known as ColonelPanic001 | ||
| waldo323 | one that got me a job offer I didn't accept contacted me today to checkin | 18:22 |
| waldo323 | one = a recruiter in response to earlier comments | 18:22 |
| waldo323 | does slack have audio/video? | 18:28 |
| jrwren | yes | 18:28 |
| Scary_Guy | cmaloney, that video reminds me of Heron's "steam ball" | 18:40 |
| Scary_Guy | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile | 18:40 |
| Scary_Guy | Looks like I'm skipping tonight. Matt bailed to work on other things and I have some stuff to do here anyway. You kids have fun | 18:45 |
| cmaloney | bummer | 18:48 |
| cmaloney | We should be streaming it tonight if you want to play along at home | 18:49 |
| Scary_Guy | you usually stream it anyway, but yeah I'll try to remember to tune in, if not I'll catch the canned stream later | 18:52 |
| cmaloney | np | 19:38 |
| waldo323 | we should even have a working mic :) | 20:02 |
| cmaloney | ideally | 20:02 |
| waldo323 | I'm headed out hope to see everyone (that can make it) at mug | 20:02 |
| cmaloney | Getting wrapped up as well | 20:05 |
| Scary_Guy | I'm kind of surprised the venue doesn't have one you can check out | 21:47 |
| jrwren | all hail Cosmic Cuttlefish | 22:49 |
| cmaloney | woo woo | 22:51 |
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