[11:20] good morning [12:00] no, it's definitely not good [12:16] why not? [12:21] oi :-\ then i hope it improves [12:25] rick_h_: What happened? [12:28] sorry, internet issues [12:28] got hung up on first tech person [12:28] told that "everything is fine" from the second person and when I explain that my cameras show that at 12:57am internet went out and that everything works internally but as soon as a hardwired device attempts to ping a static IP through the gateway it fails... [12:28] so now waiting on "Tier 2" support to call me wheeee [12:29] business class service at its best [12:29] Oh that's nice of them [12:29] yea, I mean I had to do "put yourself in my shoes. So you say everything is fine I'm explaining how it's not. If we hang up, who am I supposed to call next?" [12:30] Help me do your job for you because frankly you're not doing a good job of it. ;) [12:31] Yeah, diagnosing internet issues isn't fun [12:31] oh look, and now it's magically back without me turning any knobs [12:31] especially when they require sending someone out. They really don't like to do that [12:31] almost as if something was wrong upstream... [12:31] quelle surprise [12:32] Did someone @ comcastcares [12:32] or is it xfinitysaysgofuckyourself? [12:32] I can't keep up [12:32] comcast business [12:32] so I get to keep using the C-word for now [12:34] w00t [12:34] lol and everything starts coming through from reminders/etc [12:35] nice [12:35] So the Comcast side is the side that doesn't try to upsell you 10 different cable bundles every time you call them? [12:36] "My internet is busted" "We're here to help you, sire; now, would you like HBO with that?" [12:36] sire [12:36] Apparently that's the medieval support person [12:38] because the support is from the dark ages [12:39] Wouldnt' surprise me if COmcast / Xfinity built a time machine so they could use peasants from the middle ages for call center support [12:39] "Now, when you say 'computer' what device are you speaking of, good sir" [12:40] "Be glad it's a mouse and not a rat; you'll catch the plague from those buggers" [12:40] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa_hiLXLbTc [12:45] so taking bets on if comcast tier 2 actually calls to verify that things are ok or not [12:46] or if they just see the traffic graph spike up and run off and go "welp my work here is done" [12:46] They're waiting to see if the magic beans they sprinked on the router took hold [12:47] then you'll get the "yup, seems to be working" [13:51] heh, got the call from tier 2 person [13:51] did they explain anything? [13:51] guess they did maint on a major box that services the area last night and they forgot to configure something that enables all static ip customers [13:52] so thousands of business customers in the area knocked out [13:52] damn!!!! [13:52] osunds like business class is second class. [13:52] the crazy part is how tier 1 said nothing was wrong in the area [13:53] but it sure seems that should come up that hey "every business customer in this area's called to report issues" [13:53] yup, terrible system [13:54] anyway, I'll stop my bitching now [14:09] heh [14:10] So, telling a recruiter that you feel left behind in the commercial side of computing: good move or great move? :) [14:12] lol [15:21] Is the recruiter working for you, or for a company? [15:22] I have recruiters I would feel comfortable telling that, and they would work with me to get the needed skills [15:43] For a company ultimately [15:45] not sure how it is on the west side but most of the recruiters I've experienced here couldn't be bothered to help out [15:45] I have cultivated relationships with a couple of them outside of work [15:45] You usually get about one or two months of a recruiter's attention before they move on to other prospects [15:46] handcrafted artisinal recruiters [15:46] and unless you make it through a company's hiring process and land a job they don't kindle that relationship [15:46] heh [15:46] and once you leave a job my experience is there are few recruiters that will continue the relationship [15:46] there are some that did [15:47] but I've lost touch with them [15:47] unlike a realtor that we ran into a long time ago that still calls me [15:47] (this might also be because i rarely give out my phone number) [16:43] so over/under of new chat systems at google i/o this year is set at 2 [16:46] le sigh [16:46] we already had a "make a google chat bot for Wikimedia's Phabricator" task. I ain't going to do it. Been burned too many times already. [16:48] greg-g: ah ouch [16:48] I'm sure they'll converge them together in some fashion [16:48] But yeah, anyone who thought Allo was going to do anything wasn't paying attention [16:49] Hangouts going to Enterprise only is a real pisser though [16:49] or Enterprise Focused [16:49] since that's essentially all of my chat online [16:49] well that's going to meet [16:50] thuogh I wish work work turn it on and migrate it on that account [16:50] Duo is just silly since it's for phones only [16:50] I think our org won't enable google meet until we have to [16:50] * rick_h_ still uses hangouts in inbox so he can text his wife from the computer [16:51] but then again, anyone complaining about no desktop support for chat is yelling at the kids to get off their lawn [16:51] greg-g: so far my testing shows it's doing better than hangouts [16:51] cool [16:51] greg-g: I've set it up on my personal domain and been doing some testing on there. The biggest :( is that the quality slider is gone and you have to go into settings to flip down quality for low bandwidth connections [16:51] cmaloney: or just sits behind a computer by day heh [16:52] * cmaloney is just going to use Jitsi and Mastodon DMs [16:52] screw y'all, I'm going to talk to myself [16:52] What will likely happen is folks will move completely to Discord [16:52] and then we'll get to see how awful they are when they have more power over users. [16:53] * cmaloney is wondering when he started channeling John C Dvorak levels of curmudgeon [16:54] rick_h_: oh that sucks, I use that all the time on slow connections. [16:54] greg-g: yea, same here [16:54] and only imagine I'll be doing it more once our travels start :) [16:54] greg-g: but overall video/audio quality is better so far [16:54] cool [16:54] The sad thing is I'm starting to think that OwnCloud et al folks are getting it right for the wrong reasons [16:54] cmaloney: I still haven't tried discord... [16:55] it's not the privacy concerns, it's the deprecation concerns [16:55] greg-g: Honestly it's my least favorite of all of them [16:55] cmaloney: for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCb-WcxO5SU&t=51s [16:55] it's like IRC / Slack but with less utility and more ways to put garbage in the timeline [16:56] oh goody [16:56] greg-g: Hah === ColonelPanic002_ is now known as ColonelPanic001 [18:22] one that got me a job offer I didn't accept contacted me today to checkin [18:22] one = a recruiter in response to earlier comments [18:28] does slack have audio/video? [18:28] yes [18:40] cmaloney, that video reminds me of Heron's "steam ball" [18:40] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile [18:45] Looks like I'm skipping tonight. Matt bailed to work on other things and I have some stuff to do here anyway. You kids have fun [18:48] bummer [18:49] We should be streaming it tonight if you want to play along at home [18:52] you usually stream it anyway, but yeah I'll try to remember to tune in, if not I'll catch the canned stream later [19:38] np [20:02] we should even have a working mic :) [20:02] ideally [20:02] I'm headed out hope to see everyone (that can make it) at mug [20:05] Getting wrapped up as well [21:47] I'm kind of surprised the venue doesn't have one you can check out [22:49] all hail Cosmic Cuttlefish [22:51] woo woo