[00:05] <vern> jrgilman: this seems like it might be helpful: http://www.noah.org/wiki/CapsLock_Remap_Howto
[00:12] <rud0lf> interesting.. it says to add "setxkbmap -option caps:none" to startup entry
[00:12] <rud0lf> .xprofile ?
[00:16] <derpingit> ok so i set all the directories 775 recursively and all files 644 . how can i let other people in the group overwrite files?
[00:16] <jrgilman> also another question, I can't seem to find an answer but is there a way to move the current fullscreen application to my other monitor? I can't seem to find a shortcut for it
[00:20] <oerheks> systemsettings > keyboard > shift super left/right
[00:28] <FishPencil> Is it possible to write an iso to a SATA hard drive (not a flash drive)? I'm curious if the machine would see it as a valid boot option and launch the iso.
[00:29] <FishPencil> I happen to have a spare hard drive, but no disk drive. I need to boot an iso that isn't supported by USB methods
[00:30] <oerheks> FishPencil, you can, if you have grub installed already
[00:30] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[00:31] <FishPencil> oerheks: using something like DD wouldn't take care of the bootloader?
[00:32] <MzrE> I think I've done the same trick that makes a USB bootable on a spare hard drive like you're saying
[00:32] <MzrE> But if you're intending to install the OS onto the same drive maybe oerheks link would be more appropriate
[00:33] <FishPencil> No
[00:33] <FishPencil> one drive to another
[00:35] <eric_lee> grub can boot the iso file if you appoint the path of iso
[00:36] <oerheks> the outcome would be interesting
[00:36] <oerheks> :-D
[00:36] <FishPencil> I'm looking to boot the iso just like as if it was a valid disk drive. Can a HDD be used like DVD drive if the data is identical
[00:36] <oerheks> try it and let us know if you can boot from a dd-ed iso to hdd
[00:37] <FishPencil> will do
[00:37] <oerheks> make sure you use sdb and not a partition sdb1 i guess
[00:37] <FishPencil> Do I have to do anything to clear what is already on the HDD?
[00:38] <FishPencil> or will DD take care of that
[00:38] <oerheks> no, the 2st 2 gb will be used, the rest is unavailable, if you want to make that part read/write, casper rw
[00:38] <oerheks> persistence part.. but i think that would be too much to test for now
[00:40] <oerheks> your next issue will be; if you can boot, while installing, where to put grub bootloader..
[00:40] <FishPencil> oerheks: it isn't a Unix iso
[00:41] <oerheks> oh boy
[00:42] <MzrE> what is it?
[00:42] <oerheks> the outcome would be  ̶i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶e̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ more predictable
[00:43] <FishPencil> I'm just mainly curious if the BIOS of a machine will handle a DVD drive differently than a HDD
[00:43] <FishPencil> Or if it'll still boot to it
[00:43] <oerheks> it is not an ubuntu issue.
[00:44] <FishPencil> Well I'll be using Ubuntu to do the iso->HDD
[00:44] <tgm4883> lol
[00:44] <tgm4883> That doesn't make it a Ubuntu issue
[00:44] <FishPencil> I agree
[00:45] <FishPencil> Just saying why I asked if DD would work here
[00:45] <tgm4883> FishPencil: IIRC, dd will take care of anything
[00:45] <oerheks> you might want to lok for docs of your vendor howto prepare an OEM hdd, like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[00:50] <iork> ey guys
[00:50] <iork> i just bought a new TP-Link TL-WN8200N but available networks are not shown
[00:51] <iork> does anyone knows why is so?? im under new xubuntu 17
[00:51] <iork> please
[00:51] <iork> any answer or guidance is MUCH apreciated
[00:52] <xamithan> Maybe you didn't turn it on ?
[00:52] <iork> oh jaja well it does not have any switch xamithan
[00:52] <xamithan> The switch is in the OS
[00:54] <xamithan> If you can see it using lsusb,  run rfkill list all to see if it is blocked
[00:55] <iork_> i got my TP-Link TL-WN8200N plugged but not "enable wifi" option is shown
[00:55] <xamithan> This might be relevant too: https://askubuntu.com/questions/904698/tp-link-tl-wn722n-cant-connect-on-17-04
[00:55] <iork_> if you guys can help me aĺl be very thankfull
[00:55] <iork_> i'll be very very thankful
[00:59] <oerheks> the famous RTL8192EU
[01:00] <iork> already did that but stills no work xamindar
[01:00] <iork> ups i meant xamithan
[01:03] <xamithan> Welp,  you might need to change the driver then.  I have no idea which one to point you to as I don't have that card
[01:04] <iork> ok thank you
[01:04] <iork> i'll be here
[01:04] <iork> maybe somebody else
[01:04] <xamithan> There is this post I saw it has one for 16.04:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/849958/install-driver-for-tl-wn8200nd-wireless-adapter-in-ubuntu-16-04/978875#978875
[01:05] <iork> done that before
[01:05] <iork> but no
[01:05] <iork> it seems like a good challenge
[01:05] <iork> :/
[01:05] <xamithan> Looks like a problematic card,  should have got an atheros chipset
[01:05] <oerheks> http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?105523-Can-t-use-TL-WN8200ND-with-Ubuntu their answer ...
[01:06] <iork> but... if it works fine with windows there must be a way im sure
[01:06] <iork> is just a matter of patience and time =)
[01:06] <oerheks> sure, but the vendor refuses to write a driver, nor gives proper info
[01:07] <iork> yes i know like many other times with so many other products i think
[01:07] <oerheks> grab a cheap intel N card, and it will work OOTB
[01:07] <oerheks> not, the RTL chips are famous in Linuxland..
[01:08] <iork> yes i've read
[01:17] <Jeff_> Hi, there
[01:20] <backnforth> Hi, I'm trying to get php-fpm installed and configured on 18.04 with apache.
[01:21] <backnforth> and I need help
[01:22] <donofrio_> backnforth, unless I'm incorrect, I'd say #php and #httpd.
[01:24] <sancron> Hello fellows, i've struggled in a small problem with 18.04 Server. I want to setup a vServer and won't get netplan configured, because my Broadcast Adress is the same as my Gateway but this two are different from my assigned IP. Can someone point me how to setup manually broadcast adress on netplan?
[01:24] <xamithan> Try #ubuntu-server
[01:24] <xamithan> They know more about netplan
[01:24] <backnforth> donofrio_,  they recommended to come here to see how it's configured for my distro
[01:24] <donofrio_> lol k I'll goto mute
[01:25] <backnforth> #php did sorry, not #httpd
[01:25] <backnforth> I'll try #httpd then
[01:27] <xamithan> What trouble you having with it backnforth ?  There looks to be plenty of guides: https://websiteforstudents.com/how-to-run-apache2-with-php7-2-fpm-on-ubuntu-16-04-17-10-18-04/
[01:27] <backnforth> thanks xamithan, I couldn't find any
[01:28] <backnforth> xamithan,  is it OK to use a drupal with:
[01:28] <backnforth> ebsiteforstudents.com/how-to-run-apache2-with-php7-2-fpm-on-ubuntu-16-04-17-10-18-04/
[01:28] <backnforth>  xamithan xamindar xandowsk xar- xatr0z XenophonF xet7 Xionaba xit xMopx xoke_ xsacha xtr_ xttraces XXCoder xyzone[m]
 thanks xamithan, I couldn't find any
[01:28] <backnforth> * d9k_ (~d9k@net109207189018.pskovline.ru) has joined
[01:28] <backnforth> * brownrecluse (~brownrecl@50.235.172.130) has joined
[01:29] <backnforth> sorry about that
[01:30] <xamithan> It should work fine with drupal
[01:30] <backnforth> Oh good
[01:30] <xamithan> Not sure why you want to use apache over nginx though
[01:30] <backnforth> xamithan,  good question. But work wants Apache.
[01:32] <donofrio_> xamithan, that link doesn't resolve
[01:32] <backnforth> it does forme
[01:33] <backnforth> the websiteforstudents one does
[01:33] <donofrio_> "Error resolving 'ebsiteforstudents.com': Name or service not known"
[01:33] <donofrio_> oh
[01:33] <xamithan> It cut out that we
[01:33] <carlos> ¿alguien habla español?
[01:33] <backnforth> petito
[01:33] <xamithan> !es carlos
[01:33] <oerheks> !es
[01:34] <carlos> gracias, entonces no hay chat en español, ok buscaré ayuda allá
[01:34] <carlos> Thanks
[01:42] <jeffguorg> Hi, there. The java cacerts is broken on 18.04. Java clients cannot connect to https certs due to java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
[01:44] <jeffguorg> I find a post saying purging and reinstalling openjdk may fix and it helped me. but I'm thinking whether it can be fixed when upgrading the packages
[01:44] <jeffguorg> how can i help?
[01:47] <oerheks> oh, sounds like this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-9/+bug/1743139
[01:47] <oerheks> and this discussion, https://askubuntu.com/questions/971059/17-10-openjdk-and-oracle-jdk-8-and-9-the-trustanchors-parameter-must-be-non-empt
[01:48] <oerheks> you might want to add yourself to that bugreport
[01:50] <jeffguorg> looks like it's similar but not sure it is the exact same problem with the one i met...checking for it
[02:00] <pythonandthesnak> whois pythonandthesnak
[02:01] <oerheks> !rootirc
[02:17] <cluelessperson>  How do you completely disable ubuntu's wifi?
[02:18] <cluelessperson> I don't want to disable wifi on boot, I want to prevent it from loading at boot at all
[02:21] <Randolf> cluelessperson:  "interface down" sort of option?
[02:22] <Randolf> I know that in NetBSD it's possible to set the state of a NIC to "down" (or "up") in the relevant configuration file (e.g., /etc/ifconfig.wm0), and I'm guessing that it's probably very much the same in Ubuntu.
[02:22] <jeffguorg> are u using gnome and network manager? have you tried to uncheck the 'Connect to this network automatically when available' remove wifi's profile in network manager? or disable NetworkManager?
[02:22] <xamithan> Blacklisting the wifi driver will make it not load O.o
[02:23] <Randolf> cluelessperson:  I just checked, and all I'd have to on NetBSD is add "down" (without the quotation marks) on a line all by itself in the /etc/ifconfig.wm0 file.  I think Ubuntu should be very much like that?
[02:23] <jeffguorg> to <oerheks>: thanks.
[02:31] <Miguel2013> Why is ubunto disabling irq11
[02:31] <Miguel2013> And ruining my nic connection
[02:51] <marcelo_> oi
[02:51] <marcelo_> sou novo no mundo linux
[02:52] <marcelo_> quero aprender as coisas
[02:53] <SlidingHorn> !es | marcelo_
[02:55] <brownrecluse> portugues (:
[02:55] <SlidingHorn> oh...well ubottu isn't responding anyway
[02:55] <marcelo_> hello
[02:56] <brownrecluse> do we have separate channels for non-english convo?
[02:57] <brownrecluse> oh well. they left. nvm.
[02:57] <SlidingHorn> brownrecluse: for most...portuguese is #ubuntu-pt I believe
[03:00] <hggdh> brownrecluse: usually #ubuntu-pt for the Portuguese community, #ubuntu-br for help
[03:00] <ikkuranus> well this is odd I'm getting read only filesystem errors for / after a power outage
[03:01] <ikkuranus> but the thing is that system is on a working ups and it didn't power off
[03:01] <ikkuranus> only thing that did power off was a different volume which I'm not currently talking about
[03:06] <Bashing-om> ikkuranus: Were me, run a file system check :)
[03:16] <ikkuranus> do I need to reboot into some recovery mode or something
[03:19] <guiverc> ikkuranus, me I'd boot a live thumb drive (eg. install media) then fsck  (it should be umounted; so in my eg. i'm using live as my mounted fs)
[03:24] <Bashing-om> ikkuranus: ^^ fron a live environmentL my 1st check is ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sdXY ' where XY -> X is the drive. Y is the partition .. find our from ' sudo parted -l ' what the target is .
[03:30] <ikkuranus> well the install media for ubuntu server 16x is worthless
[03:31] <ikkuranus> went to rescue mode then opened a terminal and it has none of the tools
[03:31] <ikkuranus> fsck lsblk etc
[03:32] <Miguel2013> Why is ubuntu disabling irq11 disabling my network connection
[03:32] <fishcooker> i have internet access on remote server i want to tunnel sock proxy using firefox how to ssh to setting the purpose?
[03:33] <guiverc> ikkuranus, okay i was thinking of desktop images
[03:37] <Miguel2013> sock proxy sounds cool
[03:40] <Miguel2013> anybody knows how to stop my computer to disable irq 11
[03:41] <Miguel2013> its a lentium 3 laptop
[03:42] <fishcooker> is GatewayPorts yes on sshd_config should be enabled Miguel2013
[03:46] <Miguel2013> Com ports and serial and parallel are disabled
[03:48] <fishcooker> i always get Secure Connection Failed Miguel2013
[03:48] <fishcooker> https://unfettered.net/node/1332
[03:49] <Miguel2013> Update firmware/check drivers
[03:51] <Miguel2013> im typing fro a ecured bluetooth conection
[03:51] <Miguel2013> its a tiny keboard
[03:53] <jwinterm> hi all, I just upgraded to 18.04, and now my headphones are crackly and kinda slow I think whether plugged in to front or rear port
[03:54] <jwinterm> speakers on hdmi work fine tho
[03:54] <jwinterm> I've tried some random alsa-tools and pulseaudio fixes, but nothing seems to fix
[03:54] <jwinterm> not sure if should open bug, don't see anything exactly the same
[03:54] <jwinterm> lspci
[03:55] <Miguel2013> anybody knows why ubuntu diales irq 11
[03:55] <Miguel2013> disables *
[03:55] <jwinterm> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio (rev 31)
[03:55] <jwinterm> ^is the offender
[03:55] <Guest14> hi
[03:56] <Miguel2013> hi
[04:03] <NathanLundholm> Hi, can someone help me with something?
[04:04] <NathanLundholm> I have an image I want to use as the background for my grub bootloader but it won't show.
[04:06] <NathanLundholm> Just wondering, is this thing working?
[04:07] <ZangetsuMX> Grub Customizer
[04:07] <NathanLundholm> I tried Grub Customizer.  The problem is with the image file.
[04:07] <NathanLundholm> It shows up in Gimp though.
[04:08] <Bashing-om> NathanLundholm: Within: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaintenanceFreeCustomGrub2Screen is a great guide to setting grub's background .
[04:09] <ZangetsuMX> The image loads well with gimp, but it is not seen when you use it in the grub?
[04:09] <ZangetsuMX> Sorri for my English
[04:10] <NathanLundholm> Zanget, correct.  Bashing, that page says it HAS TO be the same size as screen resolution, is that correct?
[04:10] <Bashing-om> NathanLundholm: Be aware there is a limited number of formats for the image that grub accepts .
[04:10] <NathanLundholm> If so then it has to be 1280x1024 I guess.  So I need to convert it to png and resize it.
[04:11] <NathanLundholm> Right now it's a JPG
[04:11] <ZangetsuMX> If it should be the same size as the resolution, but I would change the format also to .PNG
[04:11] <kroanvor> Doesnt the format have to be .png
[04:11] <ZangetsuMX> Use a PNG image
[04:11] <Bashing-om> NathanLundholm: best I recall JPG is acceptable .
[04:12] <NathanLundholm> Right now it's 752x470.  Making it the size of the screen (1280x1024) would pixelate it.  Guess I'll find a different picture.
[04:12] <NathanLundholm> Gotta be Vienna Boys Choir.
[04:15] <ZangetsuMX> just change the PNG format if it does not work then if you have to change the size or the image, greetings.
[04:15] <Miguel2013> just change the size of the image;
[04:15] <Miguel2013> pixel away;
[04:15] <ZangetsuMX> Ok everyone, goodbye
[04:23] <NathanLundholm> Ok hopefully that works.  It's a png now.
[04:23] <Bashing-om> NathanLundholm: I do not see that the image has to be as the sccreen resolution: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays .
[04:25] <NathanLundholm> It also says it has to be non-indexed.
[04:25] <NathanLundholm> How do I check if it's indexed or not?
[04:26] <Bashing-om> NathanLundholm: I too do not recognize the term. sorry can not say here .
[04:26] <NathanLundholm> Ok thank you.  Time to reboot and see if it works.
[04:27] <Bashing-om> NathanLundholm: :)
[04:29] <NathanLundholm_> It didn't work.
[04:29] <NathanLundholm_> Grub sucks.
[04:31] <NathanLundholm_> https://askubuntu.com/questions/105369/why-cant-i-see-the-image-changed-with-grub-customizer Here it says it does have to match screen size.
[04:34] <n-iCe> I moved my laptop and the screen is no in vertical, what the hell happened!!!
[04:36] <n-iCe> xxheeeeeeeeeeeeelo
[04:36] <n-iCe> heeeeeeeeelp
[04:36] <ledeni> NathanLundholm_, can you give us 'cat /etc/default/grub |  nc termbin.com 9999'
[04:37] <ledeni> ops he is gone
[04:47] <blaster> What's best practice for assigning nginx/php-fpm write permissions on a project uploads directory?
[04:48] <blaster> Without just chmod 777 it?
[04:51] <ikkuranus> well that was a failure
[04:52] <ikkuranus> wrote an ubuntu desktop image to usb and when you go to try it without installing it just hangs at the ubuntu logo after 4 dots change to orange
[04:53] <SlidingHorn> ikkuranus: did you verify the download?
[04:53] <ikkuranus> nope
[04:54] <ledeni> ikkuranus, and how you wrote an ubuntu desktop image to usb
[04:54] <ikkuranus> rufus
[04:57] <NathanLundholm> Okay, got it working!
[04:57] <NathanLundholm> Now the other issue... I have Ubuntu and Android installed.  Ubuntu works fine.  When I tell Grub to boot Android, Android begins to boot and then reboots the computer.  Do you know what causes this?
[04:58] <NathanLundholm> Thanks for the help with the background picture issue.
[05:00] <edward__> hola
[05:00] <edward__> alguien que hable español?
[05:01] <NathanLundholm> Now the other issue... I have Ubuntu and Android installed.  Ubuntu works fine.  When I tell Grub to boot Android, Android begins to boot and then reboots the computer.  Do you know what causes this?
[05:01] <NathanLundholm> zZzZzZ can you help me?
[05:02] <n-iCe> Why is the screen doing a rotation when I move the laptop?
[05:02] <n-iCe> My laptop is not touch screen I think.
[05:04] <NathanLundholm> I'm trying to dual-boot Ubuntu and Android, but when I tell Grub to boot into Android, it starts booting and then the whole computer reboots.  Does anyone know what causes this?
[05:04] <SlidingHorn> !patience | NathanLundholm
[05:05] <NathanLundholm> I checked all of those.
[05:05] <SlidingHorn> NathanLundholm: okay, well the first part still applies :)
[05:06] <NathanLundholm> I thought Android was compatible with a PC but I guess it can only function on phones.
[05:08] <ikkuranus> yes the sha1 matches
[05:11] <NathanLundholm> For the new joiners: I'm trying to dual-boot Ubuntu and Android, but when I tell Grub to boot into Android, it starts booting and then the whole computer reboots.  Does anyone know what causes this?
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> NathanLundholm: stop that please, you have been told to patient and you do it again
[05:13] <NathanLundholm> I am being patient but if I don't repeat once in a while new joiners didn't see what was typed before they joined.
[05:13] <Buzzard> ubuntu is booting x64 hardware properly is your statment?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> NathanLundholm: once in a while doesnt mean repeat every few user joins
[05:14] <NathanLundholm> Okay... I guess once in a while means once every 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 human lifetimes right?
[05:15] <NathanLundholm> That's total bullshit.  If I had an IRC chat room asking for help wouldn't be against the rules.
[05:15] <Buzzard> NathanLundholm?
[05:15] <NathanLundholm> Yes Buzzard?
[05:15] <Buzzard> your x64 hardware is working for ubutnu?
[05:16] <NathanLundholm> Yes.
[05:16] <Buzzard> the other os is emulation?
[05:16] <SlidingHorn> !language | NathanLundholm
[05:16] <NathanLundholm> The other OS is dual boot via Grub.
[05:17] <Buzzard> andriod hardware is not x64 hardware
[05:17] <NathanLundholm> android-x86-7.1-r2.iso is the image I burned.
[05:18] <NathanLundholm> So how do I make it work, Buzzard?
[05:21] <Buzzard> i think you need to use the 64 bit one
[05:21] <Buzzard> for your hardware
[05:21] <NathanLundholm> I tried that one and it just froze.
[05:21] <NathanLundholm> I guess Android won't work on PCs at all.
[05:22] <Buzzard> i have seen it work but as emulation running under ubutnu
[05:22] <NathanLundholm> It doesn't work on PC's.
[05:22] <NathanLundholm> It's impossible.
[05:22] <Buzzard> on a pc
[05:22] <NathanLundholm> If it was possible someone in this room would know how.
[05:23] <Buzzard> have you tried emulations that did not work?
[05:23] <NathanLundholm> It didn't work.
[05:23] <NathanLundholm> That's why I decided to dual boot.
[05:24] <Buzzard> there are many of those
[05:24] <NathanLundholm> I think Android can't run on a PC.  Only on a phone.
[05:24] <NathanLundholm> I've spent three weeks trying everything.
[05:24] <Buzzard> i know that it can be done, i have done that myself
[05:25] <NathanLundholm> Which Android file did you use?
[05:25] <Buzzard> there has been two andriod emulations that i have been able to boot
[05:26] <Buzzard> and run those without issues
[05:26] <NathanLundholm> Then it's just that Android can't possibly run on MY computer.
[05:26] <NathanLundholm> HP sucks.
[05:27] <Buzzard> did you try anbox?
[05:27] <NathanLundholm> Yes.
[05:27] <NathanLundholm> Didn't work.
[05:28] <Buzzard> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NxlvbjfVyM
[05:28] <Buzzard> it seems to work really well with ubutu
[05:28] <NathanLundholm> I tried it.  It doesn't work.
[05:29] <NathanLundholm> Probably because my PC is HP
[05:29] <NathanLundholm> HP computers don't do anything well.
[05:29] <Algebr> Which package for xenial installs lspci? pciutils doesn't install anything for me
[05:30] <Buzzard> i have not seen others with that issue you claim about HP x64 computers
[05:30] <enyc> Algebr: I think pacages.ubunutu.com  lets you search for packages containing paritcular file
[05:31] <NathanLundholm> I'll just give up.  I was going to put FreeDos on next so I'll format the Android partition and put FreeDos on that.
[05:31] <NathanLundholm> I'm over trying to run Android on a PC.  If something's impossible it's not worth any more time.  And I believe it's impossible.
[05:32] <Buzzard> it seems for you that is true
[05:33] <n-iCe> NathanLundholm: there are android os
[05:34] <SlidingHorn> Algebr: how did you manage to remove lspci?
[05:34] <NathanLundholm> n-iCe: None of them work
[05:34] <Buzzard> also there is an #android channel on this server, you might find better help about that there
[05:34] <NathanLundholm> Ever... at all
[05:35] <kostkon> !find lspci
[05:35] <kostkon> hmm
[05:35] <NathanLundholm> Thanks Buzzard, I'll try there
[05:36] <n-iCe> remixos does not work?
[05:36] <n-iCe> it is really popular
[05:37] <krytarik> !find lspci
[05:37] <gogeta> remixos is dead
[05:38] <n-iCe> did not know that
[05:40] <gogeta> NathanLundholm, if you dont mind a vm thers a few
[05:42] <keyi_> has anyone experienced abnormal Bluetooth connection that wakes up machine seconds after suspend?
[05:43] <NathanLundholm> Gogeta, I tried like 20 or 30
[05:43] <NathanLundholm> They don't work
[05:43] <keyi_> the problem appears after I upgraded to 18.04 from 17.10
[05:44] <gogeta> NathanLundholm, note first boot of andorid takes a long time like 5 minuts
[05:44] <gogeta> Nothing4You, also use 32bit not 64
[05:59] <natten> I'm using the docker syslog driver to log stuff from my application to syslog -> rsyslog -> loggly. However whenever i log an error. "journalctl -o verbose" and rsyslog/loggly detects it as "Informational" severity.
[05:59] <natten> Anyone knows anything i can try?
[06:01] <Haris> hello all
[06:01] <Haris> what does this mean ---> kernel: [474089.030686] audit: type=1400 audit(1525759159.180:46648): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld" name="/proc/37477/status" pid=37477 comm="mysqld" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=113 ouid=113 <--- ?
[06:01] <Haris> can't start mysql 5.7 without it on xenial
[06:01] <gjap> hi
[06:02] <gjap> Does it need to have virtualization support on cpu for running docker?
[06:08] <SlidingHorn> Haris: see the answer here:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/916009/mysql-wont-start-because-of-apparmor
[06:10] <keyi_> I have experienced a similar problem to this one: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030155/youtube-video-lag-on-18-04
[06:11] <keyi_> any ideas? dmesg etc looks all normal
[06:15] <m2_teknix> I have a shell script that log into a remote machine via ssh and sources bashrc from of the remote machine. I am getting "PS1: unbound variable"
[06:18] <Nothing4You> gogeta: i am using 64 bit
[06:23] <SlidingHorn> m2_teknix: you need to set your prompt variable.  default looks something like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/z864xJx7y8
[06:42] <zenox> is there a command that's chgrp and chown in one? i'm lazy!
[06:42] <Haris> got it done
[06:42] <Haris> https://askubuntu.com/questions/916009/mysql-wont-start-because-of-apparmor
[06:42] <EriC^^> zenox: chown user:group file
[06:43] <Haris> why hasn't this been put in updates in xenial yet ?
[06:43] <zenox> EriC^^, nice! thanks that's saved me a few keystrokes!
[06:43] <EriC^^> :D
[06:44] <taaher13> hi
[06:44] <EriC^^> hello
[06:44] <taaher13> how can I install tor-broser?
[06:44] <oerheks> !tor
[06:45] <Hannibal> sudo apt-get install tor
[06:45] <taaher13> can everybody help me?
[06:45] <Norux> !tor | taaher13
[06:46] <taaher13> tnx a lot friends
[06:47] <servidor1> hi
[06:47] <zenox> i thought tor stopped being "anonymous" years ago
[06:51] <`whoami`> not sure why you're saying this
[07:09] <TheEagerPadawan> hi gents, as mentioned yesterday i'm trying to get flash (yeah 'ye oldie flash) working in opera and/or firefox. I know HTML5 is better but old web app is old
[07:09] <TheEagerPadawan> i installed the ubuntu-restricted-packages but that didn't seem to do the trick
[07:11] <ducasse> TheEagerPadawan: install adobe-flashplugin
[07:11] <Norux> TheEagerPadawan: doesn't pepperflash work?
[07:16] <TheEagerPadawan> yeah forgot about good old pepperflash :)
[07:16] <TheEagerPadawan> thanks gents ^^
[07:16] <TheEagerPadawan> so now that works i can safely deinstall the ubuntu-extra-packages right?
[07:17] <oerheks> sure, that uninstalls adobe-flashplugin safely
[07:18] <oerheks> restart your browser after that *
[07:18] <TheEagerPadawan> yup been there done that
[07:23] <jink> The cleanup after do-release-upgrade removes old packages, if you want to, but it doesn't actually purge them; it just removes them.  Should I remove the packages in " dpkg -l | grep ^r "  It's just configuration files, really.
[07:28] <Haris> can we upgrade php from 5.5.9 to 5.6.x on 14.04  ?
[07:29] <oerheks> Haris, not, unless you are willing to use a PPA
[07:32] <zenox> mhh just build my first docker image... the others i have are like 80mb, i build it on ubuntu:latest added mysql, nginx, php inside the image (for code testing purposes only) and it's at 801MB!
[07:42] <Anticom> Hi. How is this package called again offering alternative system settings which also include cloud storage accounts like google?
[07:42] <Anticom> (I'm on xenial)
[07:42] <Anticom> I know i've got it installed but i can't identify it anymore. A friend was asking for it
[07:49] <Norux> Anticom: not sure what you're referring to, but there's `gnome-tweak-tool` (and `unity-tweak-tool`, prior to 17.10)
[07:51] <SSMAdmin> Hi all.  I investigate how to make a VirtualBox VM autostart at system boottime in Ubuntu 18.04 (as a system service).  It can be ran headless, but I prefer to also be able to control this vm in the VirtualBox GUI. Asking in #virtualbox and reading the manual does not provide definite answers https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#autostart-linux  Anyone able to help?
[07:52] <SSMAdmin> Or is there a better way to do it, using something else than virtualbox?
[07:52] <Norux> Anticom: oh there's also `gnome-control-center`
[07:55] <Norux> SSMAdmin: I don't know about the autostart, but I know there is KVM, which also can be used for virtualization.
[07:56] <Norux> SSMAdmin: apparently, it has a `virsh autostart vmName` command
[07:56] <Anticom> gnome-control-center was the one i was looking for
[07:56] <Anticom> cheers Norux
[07:56] <Norux> !yay | anticom
[07:57] <Anticom> btw are there any major issues when upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 known yet?
[07:57] <SSMAdmin> Norux, thank you, i check out KVM
[07:57] <Anticom> e.g. what am i supposed to do with red shift? unistall it manually or does ubuntu this during the distro upgrade for me?
[07:58] <Norux> SSMAdmin: maybe this will be helpful too: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-centos-linux-kvm-virtualization-start-virtual-machine-guest/
[07:58] <Anticom> damn, gotta go. Till later o/
[07:58] <Norux> bye :)
[08:14] <sliddis> Any macOS theme for ubuntu gnome 1804 out there?
[08:17] <SysGhost> sliddis: previous themes should work. Gnome themes isn't specifically made for one distribution version
[08:32] <Norux> ubottu: dumb bot
[08:42] <Peter2> is that use  OpenCV in the example of the video recognition in Nivida jetson TX1?
[08:51] <Peter2> Could someone tell me about the IRC of nvidia?
[08:54] <Norux> Peter2: /join #nvidia
[08:55] <Peter2> thanks
[09:03] <rangergord> Let's say I have package D which is a base dependency for many packages. I want to install new package N. Can I apt install N without also updating D?
[09:03] <rangergord> N depends on D in this example
[09:05] <blackflow> rangergord: depends if the dependency is such that N doesn't need to be built against specific version of D, due to ABI changes.
[09:06] <blackflow> eg, if N can use that specific version of D without being specifically built against it, or IS built against that version of D.
[09:07] <Triffid_Hunter> rangergord: if you have D-0.7 but N needs >=D-0.9, no.
[09:07] <rangergord> that's not the case
[09:08] <rangergord> I'm certain the app will work on the slightly older Python 2.7, even if there's a new patch release
[09:08] <Doow> Hi, I'm trying to figure out what the best keyring would be to install on a headless machine. gnome-keyring seems to have lots of dependencies.
[09:08] <Triffid_Hunter> rangergord: that specific build of the package, or the package in general?
[09:10] <rangergord> the package in general. I'm pretty sure the package hasn't actually been updated, it's just that the base dependency (Python) gets non-stop security updates I don't care about.
[09:34] <pmjdebru1jn> hey, does anybody know how the official ubuntu images are generated
[09:34] <pmjdebru1jn> live-build still uses genisoimage while the official images are generated with xorriso IIRC
[09:34] <pmjdebru1jn> is there a scripts that wraps around live-build ?
[09:35] <pmjdebru1jn> as live-build doesn't seem to support EFI compatible ISOs
[09:38] <Lin-Buo-Ren> pmjdebru1jn: I have the exact same question
[09:38] <Lin-Buo-Ren> pmjdebru1jn: Maybe ask in #ubuntu-installer ?
[09:45] <u0_a119> ls
[09:45] <u0_a119> hi
[09:45] <u0_a119> ?
[09:45] <miguel2013> does ubuntu sends info about all the packages on my computer unencrypted?
[09:46] <u0_a119> zn
[09:46] <u0_a119> wuit
[09:46] <Norux> !ask | u0_a119
[09:46] <u0_a119> ls
[09:46] <u0_a119> sl
[09:46] <miguel2013> I  read apt tool doesn't use https
[09:47] <Lin-Buo-Ren> miguel2013: APT maintains a local cache of what's in the software source and don't sent info about the packages installed in your system
[09:48] <geirha> miguel2013: the package lists are signed though, so it doesn't matter if the transfer is encrypted or not
[09:48] <brainwash> miguel2013: https://whydoesaptnotusehttps.com/
[09:48] <brainwash> geirha: privacy?
[09:49] <geirha> paranoia?
[09:50] <miguel2013> geirha: it doesn't!
[09:51] <miguel2013> geirha: what does means that package list signed
[09:51] <geirha> miguel2013: they are signed with a pgp-key, so once they are downloaded, apt checks that the signature is a trusted one
[09:52] <miguel2013> the pacvkage list or aeach packagfet?
[09:52] <brainwash> the linked site explains it all, but why even bother reading it..
[09:53] <miguel2013> is it a real site
[09:53] <geirha> all of them
[09:53] <brainwash> it is miguel2013
[09:53] <miguel2013> okey
[09:53] <brainwash> because people keep asking this question over and over again
[09:54] <brainwash> that why someone made a site about it
[09:54] <miguel2013> bad name
[09:54] <miguel2013> ugly
[09:59] <geirha> at least it uses https though
[10:13] <miguel2013> hey I installed a package via source code and no longer need it apt-get doesn't allow me to remove it
[10:13] <miguel2013> how to get it off
[10:14] <geirha> read the instructions bundled with the source code, if any
[10:14] <geirha> there's no single answer
[10:15] <EriC^^> !checkinstall | miguel2013 for future reference
[10:15] <geirha> if you had made a deb-package of the source code, you could uninstall it again with apt, but if you didn't, you might have a hard time uninstalling it
[10:15] <Lin-Buo-Ren> miguel2013: APT doesn't manage software that isn't installed via APT, you have to refer to the installer program to find out how to remove it
[10:16] <Lin-Buo-Ren> Some makefiles doesn't even provide an 'uninstall' target
[10:18] <miguel2013> EriC^^: thanks friend
[10:23] <simonh> Hi, I'm having trouble configuring a tp-link TL-WN881ND PCI woreless card with netplan on Ubuntu-Server 18.04.
[10:23] <simonh> Can anyone help with some ideas?
[10:24] <simonh> networkctl says "no-carrier configuring" and I'm not sure if my problem is netplan (which I've not used beee modeulfore) or the rtl8192
[10:25] <simonh> oops: rtl8192ee module
[10:25] <simonh> How do I debug netplan?
[10:28] <asphyxia> haha I've been jumping around pcs the last few months and keep getting google sign in notifications/warnings
[10:29] <asphyxia> this time I signed in from a ubuntu os and I got a notification telling me it's a linux device! :0
[10:29] <asphyxia> On the other devices (win, osx) pretty sure it didn't specify the operating system
[10:29]  * asphyxia is going to check
[10:30] <blackflow> UA string.
[10:30] <hateball> asphyxia: it does
[10:30] <asphyxia> oh yeah it does
[10:31] <asphyxia> nothing special then
[10:40] <Burkeburke> Heya, I'm on 14.04 and Unity and I am missing a clock in my upper panel. How can I restore the clock without losing the current session?
[10:44] <EriC^^> Burkeburke: it should be somewhere in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-datetime
[10:44] <EriC^^> Burkeburke: what does 'locate indicator-datetime' show you?
[10:44] <EriC^^> !paste | Burkeburke
[10:52] <Burkeburke> EriC^^, it seems to be there. Its just that it wasn't loaded in this session. I would return if I log out and back in but I cannot terminate this session
[10:53] <blackflow> Burkeburke: sure it's not something as trivial as re-enabling it in settings or gnome-tweaks (if that's even a thing on 14.04)?
[10:53] <Burkeburke> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nVVggrP49F/
[10:54] <Burkeburke> blackflow, I'll try gnome tweak tool, I afaik dis/enabling the clock there does not change the problem. I had this before a couple of weeks ago
[10:55] <Burkeburke> Right now I might just restart unity if that is possible without losing the session
[10:57] <EriC^^> Burkeburke: you can run one of those files and it will appear 1 sec
[10:57] <EriC^^> Burkeburke: i'm on 16.04 unfortunately, i used to do it in 14.04 though, try "indicator" and press tab a couple times
[10:59] <EriC^^> Burkeburke: try "restart indicator-datetime"
[10:59] <Burkeburke> EriC^^,  thats it! cheers for that. I didn't know that I can start those indicators separately
[11:00] <Burkeburke> very neat, thank you
[11:00] <EriC^^> no problem
[11:09] <sud0x3> Does anyone know if the ubucon europe talks were recorded?
[11:12] <netochka> Hey. How can i fix nouveau error that comes down like a flood when i want to shutdown the laptop. sometimes it crashes with this error. ubuntu 18.04
[11:12] <netochka> I searched about it and some seem to suggest that installing bumblebee can fix it. but i donno how to do that
[11:12] <netochka> and also, i donno how to "add nouveau.modeset=0 to the kernel parameters"
[11:13] <sud0x3> netochka: Your description of your problem is strange, flood?, what error?
[11:14] <sud0x3> kernel parameters can be added in grub config or added upon boot by editing a boot entry
[11:14] <EriC^^> !bumblebee | netochka
[11:17] <netochka> sud0x3, when i want to shutdown. there is this error message that comes down like flood and it seems that it is never going to stop.
[11:17] <netochka> i actually have to hold power button to make laptop shutdown completely
[11:18] <netochka> it's something like nouveau dropped fifo sched_error 20 .. something like that. they come down really fast.
[11:18] <netochka> last night laptop crashed with this error, while working and not when i was shutting down
[11:18] <netochka> ty EriC^^
[11:20] <netochka> sud0x3, how can i edit grub config. /etc/default/grub ?
[11:21] <sud0x3> You could try using the prop drivers from nvidia, i dont advise you edit the grub config if you dont know what your doing.
[11:22] <netochka> i actually worked with grub once before. on 16.04. i editted the grub file to boot linux on older kernel.
[11:22] <netochka> but ok
[11:23] <kiriuha> you
[11:23] <kiriuha> ?
[11:23] <kiriuha> hi
[11:23] <sud0x3> If you want to try it just boot your pc and when grub is shown look along the bottom there is a list of shortvuts one is to edit and entry
[11:23] <kiriuha> ?
[11:23] <kiriuha> gf
[11:23] <sud0x3> netochka: well its the same deal if you did it before then just do what you did last time, grub hasnt changed
[11:23] <kiriuha> !?!?!?!?!
[11:24] <kiriuha> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[11:24] <kiriuha> axaxaxaxax
[11:24] <kiriuha> hxhxhxh
[11:24] <kiriuha> fxfxfxxxxfxfxxxxxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxfxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxffxfxfxfxfxfxfxf
[11:24] <kiriuha> tpr=\
[11:24] <sud0x3> kiriuha: wtf?
[11:25] <kiriuha> tor=46 resberry ip emu ubuntu you deltree no yes ? htop tor=100 top=1200 ntop
[11:26] <sud0x3> netochka: e to edit and entry in grub
[11:26] <kiriuha> tor=46 resberry ip emu ubuntu you deltree no yes ? htop tor=100 top=1200 ntop tor itop vtop boot http://boot.com
[11:27] <kiriuha> tor=46 resberry ip emu ubuntu you deltree no yes ? htop tor=100 top=1200 ntop tor itop vtop boot http://boot.com/demo/ntop.php/boot.php/root.img/linux.php
[11:27] <Lagair> I take it there are no mods on right now.
[11:27] <sud0x3> Drone: Can you kick kiriuha
[11:27] <netochka> on a not totally unrelated subject. how would i know which options should i mark in the Software and Updates / Other Softwares ? shall i just select them all ?
[11:27] <kiriuha> tor=46 resberry ip emu ubuntu you deltree no yes ? htop tor=100 top=1200 ntop tor itop vtop boot http://boot.com/demo/ntop.php/boot.php/root.img/linux.php ls linux ubuntu 12.04 linux mint linux tor
[11:28] <Norux> !ops | kiriuha
[11:29] <sud0x3> netochka: if your just a regular user of the desktop and dont depend on specific versions of software then you should be fine updating all applications.
[11:32] <solsTiCe> hi. I never done that before for privacy reason. What do I gai in login in y google account in gnome-control-center ?
[11:33] <root> re
[11:41] <PCatinean> How does one do sed -i using env variables?
[11:47] <EriC^^> PCatinean: sed -i 's@$SOMETHING@...@'
[11:49] <hiiggy> Hey folks, if I want to set a static IP for my wired connections on my LAN, what should I use for netmask and gateway? I'm not too familiar with either. I've already reserved the IP addresses necessary and tied them to my MAC addresses in the router config, but I've got no idea what to do with those two other values.
[11:50] <sud0x3> hiiggy: what is your local ip?
[11:50] <hiiggy> I've reserved 192.168.1.2 on my router for the computer I'm currently typing on
[11:51] <hiiggy> Or did you mean what my current one is under DHCP?
[11:51] <sud0x3> if its something like 192.168.1.x then your gateway will be 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0
[11:52] <geirha> PCatinean: sed doesn't do variables at all. Only way is to inject it into sed, but then you must be careful to sanitize it first. You may prefer gawk for this instead
[11:53] <hiiggy> sud0x3: If I'm seeing a pattern correcly here, does that mean a gateway would simply be the first three values of the IP? What would the 255 signify?
[12:01] <blackflow> sud0x3: uh no, there's no rule that the gatway is .255 in the subnet. it's usually .1 actually, but it can be anything, depending on the actual CIDR of the subnet
[12:01] <JimBuntu> I use the IP of my router as the gateway and the x.x.x.255 as my broadcast address.
[12:02] <blackflow> and yeah, .255 is broadcast
[12:02] <sud0x3> hiiggy: take a look at the wikipedia entry on subnets
[12:03] <sud0x3> blackflow: no there is no rule but this is the way most home routers are setup
[12:03] <JimBuntu> of course, if they already reserved the IP on the router... then I wouldn't expect they *need* to go static on the machine... they can let DHCP grab the reserved address from the router.
[12:04] <xirg> normally .255 is used for broadcast, amirite?
[12:04] <blackflow> sud0x3: no, .1 is the most common setup, for /24 subnets
[12:04] <blackflow> .255 is broadcast by design
[12:04] <JimBuntu> xirg, in all of the /24 networks I have seen
[12:05] <sud0x3> blackflow: not on the routers i have used, or the one i am currently using.
[12:05] <blackflow> sud0x3: then it's set up against all the standards
[12:05] <JimBuntu> sud0x3, you should really prove it to them and pastebin a `sudo route -n`
[12:07] <sud0x3> JimBuntu: lol i dont need to prove anything just sharing what i have experianced, and seems hiiggy got it working, no?
[12:07] <blackflow> JimBuntu: no need to prove, that setup is not impossible, just crazy.
[12:08] <za1b1tsu> If I have a package installed with apt and there is a newer version on snapd. It is better to uninstall it and then install it again from snapd. Can there be conflicts?
[12:08] <JimBuntu> I don't know about hiiggy, the dropped out. I was joking about proving it, although I would expect more like x.x.x.254 from telco equipment and x.x.x.1 from common consumer equipment.
[12:08] <sud0x3> blackflow: its the ISP default, im not saying it isnt crazy but its the way it is.
[12:08] <blackflow> sud0x3: and have you seen that in any other network?
[12:09] <sud0x3> blackflow: only UK ISP routers
[12:09] <blackflow> all of them? or just yours?
[12:09] <u0_a119> you
[12:11] <impi> hello
[12:11] <impi> i want to run varnish on my laptop on a second ip - i only have a wifi card in atm. do you know of a tutorial of how i can add this alias ip address?
[12:12] <sud0x3> blackflow: I thought i had seen it before on other company routers other than the one i have but i may be wrong
[12:12] <u0_a119> hello
[12:12] <blackflow> sud0x3: well it's not impossible, just not a standard.
[12:13] <sud0x3> blackflow: not much is standard here :) Us brits like to quote and make standards but rareley adhere to them
[12:14] <sud0x3> were the ubucon europe talks recorded?
[12:14] <JimBuntu> Oddly enough, in a /24 where the router IP is x.x.x.255... then the router is sharing the broadcast address.
[12:15] <SwedeMike> why would you put the router on the subnet broadcast address?
[12:15] <JimBuntu> SwedeMike, you will need to ask the high-tier at sud0x3's ISP
[12:16] <SwedeMike> sud0x3: if your ISP configures the router to listen to x.x.x.255/24 (and not other address), tell them their setup is broken and they need to think again.
[12:16] <JimBuntu> This is off-topic, so I'm done, but very interesting.
[12:19] <nathdwek> Hello
[12:19] <nathdwek> I just upgraded to 18.04
[12:19] <nathdwek> and I do not have a desktop environment anymore?
[12:20] <JimBuntu> nathdwek, Please describe / pastebin / imgurl what is happening.
[12:21] <nathdwek> Yeah I was trying to word it/solve it at the same time sorry
[12:21] <nathdwek> I get straight to tty1 rather than the login screen
[12:21] <nathdwek> ctrl alt f7 doesn't go to graphical ui
[12:22] <nathdwek> I had cinnamon as default DE, I just did startx in tty1 and now I get gnome-initial-setup UI
[12:22] <Gargravarr> nathdwek: Ctrl+Alt+F1 now
[12:22] <nathdwek> Gargravarr: doesn't do anything
[12:22] <Gargravarr> do you use a diaply manager (e.g. GDM) or just run X from the command line?
[12:23] <Gargravarr> *display manager
[12:23] <nathdwek> I think I had wayland on 17.10
[12:23] <eric_lee> nathdwek:you can try from ctrl+alt+f1 to f9
[12:24] <Gargravarr> okay, i had some problems with Cinnamon too. did you install Cinnamon from a PPA (newer versions) or from the official Ubuntu repos?
[12:24] <nathdwek> Aha
[12:24] <nathdwek> Gargravarr: smart thinking
[12:24] <nathdwek> I think I played a bit with more recent versions at some points
[12:24] <nathdwek> and it must have gotten uninstalled during the upgrade
[12:25] <Gargravarr> yeah, i used the Embrosyn repos on Xenial. had to fall back to the official repos after upgrading
[12:26] <Gargravarr> the official packages work great and it's a current version
[12:26] <nathdwek> Yeah its not that
[12:26] <nathdwek> I don't have it in my sources.list.d
[12:27] <Gargravarr> nathdwek: apt-cache policy cinnamon-desktop[-environment]?
[12:27] <Gargravarr> will show you where it's looking for it
[12:27] <nathdwek> I just did install --reinstall cde
[12:27] <nathdwek> well see
[12:28] <xirg> in order to grant FTP write access to /var/www for someUser what should I do?
[12:28] <xirg> or is that the wrong way to do things
[12:29] <Gargravarr> xirg: if you're serving web content out of that folder, does the site need to write to disk?
[12:29] <xirg> the site only needs to write to /var/www nowhere else
[12:29] <nathdwek> gdammit
[12:30] <JimBuntu> xirg, I would add the user to the group ownership of that directory, and make sure that the group has RW access
[12:30] <graingert> what was that tool used to install development tools in ubuntu called?
[12:30] <Gargravarr> xirg: okay, so both the httpd and your user need to write to it. that means it's easier to add someUser to the www-data group
[12:30] <JimBuntu> graingert, build-essentials ?
[12:30] <Gargravarr> with usermod -aG www-data someUser
[12:30] <graingert> no, it let you install intellij too
[12:30] <JimBuntu> graingert, sorry, unsure.
[12:31] <Gargravarr> xirg: then chgrp www-data /var/www && chmod g+w /var/www
[12:31] <graingert> https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make
[12:31] <graingert> just found it
[12:31] <xirg> ok i will read usermod man thank you
[12:31] <nathdwek> so
[12:32] <nathdwek> cde is from the official repos
[12:32] <nathdwek> anyway that wouldn't have explained why I got nothing on ctrl-alt-f7
[12:32] <Gargravarr> nathdwek: yeah, i just re-read. seems like your display manager isn't running
[12:33] <nathdwek> Yeah I wonder if X being the default again is responsible for it
[12:33] <Gargravarr> if you log in from the TTY and run 'service [gdm|lightdm] status', is it running?
[12:33] <nathdwek> knowing myself I was probably running wayland on 17.10
[12:33] <JimBuntu> nathdwek, in 18.04, the GUI is found on CTRL+ALT+F1 now
[12:33] <Gargravarr> JimBuntu: we tried that
[12:33] <ducasse> nathdwek: cinnamon does not run on wayland afaik
[12:33] <JimBuntu> Gargravarr, right, I'm saying that this is why CTRL+ALT+F7 didn't work though
[12:34] <nathdwek> Just a sec
[12:34] <Gargravarr> ducasse: interesting, didn't know that. not sure if that would affect the display manager though
[12:34] <nathdwek> ducasse: didn't know either
[12:34] <nathdwek> I'm pretty sure I was excited for wayland in 17.10 tho
[12:35] <Gargravarr> nathdwek: wayland is still present in 18.04, it's just not enabled by default
[12:35] <nathdwek> so
[12:35] <nathdwek> oh wait I can still use IRC on the other compyte
[12:36] <nathdwek> would make it easier to copy paste stuff
[12:36] <Gargravarr> all you need is text, IRC is just multiplayer notepad anyway :D
[12:36] <natdw> ok
[12:37] <Gargravarr> natdw: i did exactly this when Cinnamon sessions broke on my machine
[12:37] <natdw> wait how do I copy from one tty to another
[12:37] <Gargravarr> natdw: use screen
[12:37] <Gargravarr> or tmux
[12:39] <nathdwek> Anyway it says lightdm  active(exited)
[12:39] <nathdwek> gdm inactive(dead)
[12:42] <Gargravarr> okay, so neither are working
[12:43] <Gargravarr> nathdwek: are there any clues in the log messages that get printed under the status?
[12:44] <nathdwek> none for gdm
[12:44] <xirg> compgen -g
[12:44] <nathdwek> for lightdm I have "starting LSB: starting lightdm"
[12:44] <xirg> whops meant that for putty
[12:44] <Gargravarr> xirg: E_NOT_A_TERMINAL
[12:45] <xirg> LOL
[12:45] <xirg> that's what i get for using the same color theme
[12:45] <nathdwek> and started LSB: start lightdm
[12:46] <Gargravarr> nathdwek: next stop, /var/log/syslog then
[12:46] <Gargravarr> hopefully something at the bottom
[12:47] <Gargravarr> question for y'all, what bluetooth daemon actually works these days? i seem to have a choice of bluez, blueman and blueberry (using Cinnamon on 18.04)
[12:52] <nathdwek> I still have  a systemd: reached target graphical interface
[12:54] <xirg> if I add someUser to www-data, will I need to change the folder automatiaclly chown new files to www-data?
[12:54] <xirg> automatically*
[12:56] <brainwash> Gargravarr: blueman and blueberry (both frontends) depend on bluez
[12:57] <nathdwek> wtf is this now
[12:58] <nathdwek> ffs ureadahead
[12:59] <brainwash> nathdwek: maybe you should share yous terminal output(s)
[12:59] <brainwash> your
[13:00] <Gargravarr> brainwash: figures :) i just threw caution to the wind, installed 'gnome-bluetooth' which then pulled in bluez. surprisingly, it connected immediately, so i guess i'll stick with that
[13:00] <nathdwek> make fun of me all you want but I am not exactly used to having a tty and nothing else to try and debug sometg
[13:00] <Gargravarr> nathdwek: we're not making fun of you, we're trying to help you
[13:01] <Gargravarr> posting your frustrations, we can understand, but if you share the output, we can try to help relieve those frustrations
[13:01] <brainwash> ranting adds unneeded noise
[13:02] <Gargravarr> and yes, ureadahead does that on my laptop as well, log entries a mile long
[13:02] <eric_lee> I have the blueman and obexd.
[13:02] <nathdwek> brainwash: sorry I am not frustrated, just trying to explain in a light mood why I am not copy pasting logs all over the place
[13:02] <nathdwek> If I find something interesting in syslog I'll try to upload it despite the difficulties
[13:03] <nathdwek> But I don't think you would be interested in me dumping 1e6 lines of ureadahead spewing garbage
[13:03] <nathdwek> Still parsing syslog...
[13:03] <nathdwek> Ah there we go
[13:03] <brainwash> could be filtered
[13:04] <brainwash> you could disable/remove ureadahead also
[13:04] <d3l3k_> Hi there, is there any way to boot Ubuntu without graphical login/X? I followed these instructions (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/NonGraphicalBoot) but didn't work, I think they're outdated
[13:04] <nathdwek> I have a "started terminate plymouth boot screen"
[13:04] <nathdwek> d3l3k_: seems like you and me should exchange computers :p
[13:04] <blackflow> d3l3k_: just once or permanently?
[13:05] <d3l3k_> hahah
[13:05] <d3l3k_> just once
[13:05] <nathdwek> I have "received sigrtmin+21 from plymouthd"
[13:05] <blackflow> d3l3k_: you can add 3 at the end of the kernel command line, via grub, on boot
[13:05] <blackflow> just number 3
[13:05] <d3l3k_> hmm will try that
[13:05] <blackflow> that's the old "runlevel 3", that systemd apparently still acknowledges
[13:07] <Gargravarr> blackflow: systemd? backwards-compatible? what is this??
[13:09] <eric_lee> sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target
[13:09] <blackflow> Gargravarr: well don't bump your quotas for the export of heaters into Hell yet. This is one of very rare glimpses of ligth at the end of a very long, dark tunnel.
[13:09] <nathdwek> Ok so for some reason I get starting terminate Plymouth boot screen
[13:09] <blackflow> eric_lee: "just once"
[13:09] <Gargravarr> blackflow: duly noted. i run Devuan wherever possible anyway ;) i'm one of Those People
[13:09] <d3l3k_> wow impressive... number 3 at boot params worked flawlessly
[13:10] <blackflow> Gargravarr: join the club :)
[13:10] <nathdwek> Any idea on why systemd would terminated plymouth boot screen?
[13:11] <eric_lee> modify the grub
[13:11] <d3l3k_> blackflow: what if systemd stops acknowledging runlevel 3 in the future?
[13:11] <eric_lee> sudo vi /etc/default/grub
[13:12] <blackflow> d3l3k_: then it's time to migrate to Devuan or something else because it's hit the fan.
[13:12] <eric_lee> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[13:12] <blackflow> d3l3k_: but jokes aside, I _think_ there's a way to instrument systemd targets via that command line, not sure
[13:13] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm trying to build a binary (an apache module .so) on one box and drop it into an os-managed install of apache on another box and have it run without segfaulting... and it's not working.
[13:13] <blackflow> d3l3k_: basically you want it to boot into multi-user, and not graphical target, which is the default.
[13:13] <blackflow> d3l3k_: so the worst case is you systemctl set-default, rboot, and then again when you want to reboot into graphical.
[13:14] <xirg> I used: "usermod -aG www-data someUser", but I still cannot write to /var/www with someUser without sudo
[13:14] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: no surprise there.
[13:14] <NoImNotNineVolt> lol.
[13:14] <d3l3k_> blackflow: thank you :)
[13:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> https://bpaste.net/show/2e17f1127688
[13:15] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's the ldd -- is that the problem?
[13:16] <t2mkn> what's lvmetad ?
[13:17] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: you used apxs?
[13:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> i doubt it.
[13:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> https://bpaste.net/show/fe1a425ea23b
[13:17] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/programs/apxs.html
[13:17] <NoImNotNineVolt> that's what i did to build the .so
[13:18] <JimBuntu> xirg, /var/www is not group writable by default
[13:18] <JimBuntu> xirg, `sudo chmod g+w /var/www`
[13:18] <Gargravarr> xirg: i sent you a second instruction
[13:19] <Gargravarr> ^ that
[13:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> apxs seems like a more surgical way of doing what i did.
[13:19] <xirg> o sry Gargravarr
[13:19] <xirg> thx JimBuntu
[13:19] <NoImNotNineVolt> i figured i'd just follow the same process as the official package hoping to avoid issues.
[13:24] <iodev> is this channel also for WSL?
[13:24] <nathdwek> Ok Gargravarr I can upload part of syslog if you want
[13:25] <nathdwek> What slice would you like to take a look at (if possible on your side)?
[13:29] <NoImNotNineVolt> blackflow: no comment? :P
[13:30] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: none whatsoever :)
[13:31] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: other than afaik they should all be built in unison, and the mods are then separated into their specific packages. I wouldn't place a bet on that being the requirement, just a hunch.
[13:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'm starting to suspect our prod 14.04 box, since it was provisioned by our "brilliant" IT guy, may not be a normal 14.04 box :\
[13:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> blackflow: indeed, that's what happens. a dozen differenet apache2* packages are generated.
[13:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> then i extract apache2-bin* and pull the .so out of there.
[13:31] <NoImNotNineVolt> but moving it to the prod box segfaults the apache there :\
[13:32] <xirg> So I added write permissions to /var/www but I still cannot write there with someUser.  I checked ls -l and the group of /var/www is root, not www-data, is that normal?
[13:32] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: move all the packages built in that run, that's my point.
[13:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> but then the prod box won't be running an os-managed apache anymore.
[13:32] <xirg> group-write permissions*
[13:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> and then i'll need to handle all security updates myself.
[13:32] <NoImNotNineVolt> which is exactly what i'm trying to avoid :P
[13:33] <xirg> do I need to chown root:www-data /var/www ?
[13:33] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: well you already have at least one package that's not OS managed there, so what's the difference?
[13:33] <NoImNotNineVolt> blackflow: i do?
[13:33] <blackflow> "OS" managed... .you mean official repo managed.
[13:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> i mean apt/dpkg-managed.
[13:34] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: well the mod_autoindexwhatwasit that you're building?
[13:34] <nathdwek> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029509/no-gui-after-kubuntu-18-04-lts-upgrade-from-17-10
[13:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> blackflow: that's not a package, it's a module :P
[13:34] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: uhm.... but it's taken out of a package that you built locally
[13:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> and indeed, i understand that if i shoehorn my own .so in there, any subsequent updates will clobber it. that's not a problem for me, as i have a workaround for it.
[13:34] <nathdwek> yay
[13:35] <NoImNotNineVolt> the problem i'm having is just getting the shoehorned .so loaded without segfaulting apache :P
[13:35] <xirg> Gargravarr, JimBuntu, should me /var/www be owned by root:www-data?  right now it's root:root
[13:36] <Kon-> nathdwek: I looked at that question and noticed the question and answer are both talking about Light DM, but KDE uses SDDM
[13:36] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: I'm not exactly sure how the linkage is done, especially if PIE is involved. But, there's obvioously a problem there, so I'd start by using both the main apache and the mod(s) that came from the same build.
[13:36] <Kon-> It *is* possible to use Light DM with Kubuntu, but SDDM is the default
[13:37] <blackflow> so if that fixes the thing, the easiest way to handle this is to build those packages yourself, on each update. You can even have a custom repo.
[13:37] <nathdwek> don't know about the particular of the asker
[13:37] <nathdwek> but it saved my cookie
[13:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> presumably it's all -fpic since i'm using the same build files as the official trusty repo.
[13:37] <JimBuntu> xirg, I would expect it to be someUser:www-data
[13:37] <Kon-> Well, if it worked for you, I suppose there's no problem :)
[13:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> i can't build them myself on each update, though. i'm a dev, not an IT guy. i'm not taking on a 24/7 maintenance burden.
[13:37] <NoImNotNineVolt> i'd sooner use a third party ppa :P
[13:38] <Actionparsnip> Hi guys
[13:38] <Actionparsnip> I've a server with an NFS share
[13:38] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: jeeze, you're still on about this? That amount of time you have been and will continue to spend on this, you could probably have ported whatever you have running to 18.04
[13:38] <syntaxfr1e> so I'm using spectrwm and I'd like to add my wi-fi strength to the status bar.
[13:38] <NoImNotNineVolt> leftyfb: there's nothing to port, everything runs fine on 18.04.
[13:39] <syntaxfr1e> I've already added battery levels, temperature, etc. anything that returns text in a terminal can be put there.
[13:39] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: make sure you let your superiors know the amount of money they're wasting then
[13:39] <NoImNotNineVolt> leftyfb: if you're suggesting i could've already successfully lobbied to change corporate policy to allow 18.04 on prod boxes, then i'll respectfully disagree :p
[13:39] <syntaxfr1e> but. google tells me of two recipes for getting wi-fi strength numbers.
[13:39] <Actionparsnip> I had to switch the disk in VMware for a new one. It's in the same mount point but the clients still only see the old size and not the new one. Is there something I have to restart to read the new size please?
[13:39] <syntaxfr1e> I've already added battery levels, temperature, etc. anything that returns text in a terminal can be put there.to jut get numbers once.
[13:41] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: well you have conflicting demands there then :) You want to modify the official software but at the same time you dont't want to modify the official software :)
[13:41] <blackflow> ain't gonna work.
[13:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> i want to modify only a single .so in the official software, to clarify.
[13:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> because that .so isn't impacted by security updates.
[13:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> whereas other parts of the official software may be.
[13:42] <jerichowasahoax> syntaxfr1e: be with you soon, trying to come up with what the sed script would be
[13:43] <syntaxfr1e> jerichowasahoax: wow, thanks.
[13:43] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: the file might not be impacted, but the package it lives in will be.
[13:43] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: well then, good luck :)  if I were you, I'd just _try_ to see if that fixes th eproblem. Then at least you'll know that building all as one unit is a requirement.
[13:43] <NoImNotNineVolt> leftyfb: which is why i want to leave the package it lives in untouched, and modify only the .so
[13:43] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: that's not at thing
[13:44] <syntaxfr1e> jerichowasahoax: if you get bored just tell me what command you are running and I can try to munge it with awk.
[13:44] <syntaxfr1e> it's just that I don't know what to run that doesn't require sudo.
[13:44] <NoImNotNineVolt> blackflow: that would imply that it's not possible to generate reproducible builds, which would be concerning.
[13:44] <jerichowasahoax> syntaxfr1e: nmcli dev $WLAN_INTERFACE | grep -i $SSID
[13:44] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: that has nothing to do with reproducible build
[13:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> if parts of two builds cannot be interchanged freely, then those builds are not reproducible.
[13:45] <jerichowasahoax> syntaxfr1e: assuming you're using networkmanager, but that would be surprising
[13:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> by definition.
[13:45] <jerichowasahoax> er, surprising if not
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> NoImNotNineVolt: That is true if both builds were derived from the same source code. You're proposing a change to part of the source. the resulting build may not work
[13:46] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: no that's not reproducible build. Reproducible build is when each build, from the same source, produces exactly the same binary.
[13:46] <pragmaticenigma> or be interchangable
[13:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> i... i don't think you've seen the patch i'm applying.
[13:46] <NoImNotNineVolt> the code change is immaterial, and i'm confident it has nothing to do with the issues i'm seeing.
[13:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> however, i have no issues spending another 15 minutes generating a vanilla build to demonstrate that even _that_ .so will segfault my apache.
[13:47] <NoImNotNineVolt> i strongly suspect the issue is with mismatched versions of deps.
[13:48] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: well yeah. I was assuming you were building for Trusty, ON Trusty.
[13:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed, i am.
[13:48] <blackflow> then all the versions should be the same?
[13:48] <blackflow> assuming both the systems are up to date.
[13:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> they are, and they have the same sources.list
[13:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> different uname -a output, though
[13:49] <PsychoBoB> Hey
[13:49] <PsychoBoB> How I can restart the php-fpm automatically when the service is busy?
[13:50] <blackflow> PsychoBoB: what's a "busy service"?
[13:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> 4.4.0-92-generic #115~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP vs 4.4.0-31-generic #50~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP
[13:50] <PsychoBoB> service is 100%
[13:50] <NoImNotNineVolt> and i'm not sure if the differing ldd output for both .so files is something to be concerned about. not sure what those addresses are.
[13:51] <jerichowasahoax> PsychoBoB: high resource usage typically indicates the process is trying to do something; restarting the service in the middle of its work doesn't seem wise
[13:52] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: that's the PIE - they all load up on different addrs
[13:52] <PsychoBoB> I need to reboot to not stop the system for other users
[13:52] <Chryzo> Good morning, what is the one liner that needs to be added to a desktop so that the login screen allows for ldap authenticated users ?
[13:52] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: that's the part I'm not sure about PIE linkage, wheter you need build-time info. If you do, then you _have_ to use all the components coming out of the same build of apache2 source.
[13:53] <tncki> hi all
[13:53] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: and that's why I'm suggesting you to try exactly that. Use httpd and the mod coming from the same build.
[13:58] <NoImNotNineVolt> that would suck :\
[13:58] <NoImNotNineVolt> so then my only chance at getting this fixed without incurring an unreasonable maintenance burden would be to work with the maintainers to get this patch into backports.
[13:59] <NoImNotNineVolt> which i was planning on doing later this week anyway, but was hoping to get it fixed in my end before then.
[14:02] <dekatch> hi, which app would be the most known simple iso mounter for ubuntu? something pre-installed even? need to mount an iso and copy paste all of it to an usb
[14:03] <dysonnnn> o.o
[14:03] <dysonnnn> hello
[14:03] <dysonnnn> exit
[14:05] <tncki> Is anyone here
[14:06] <dekatch> i am
[14:06] <dekatch> tncki,
[14:06] <tncki> hello
[14:06] <tncki> Nice to meet you
[14:06] <dekatch> hi
[14:07] <tncki> where  r u from
[14:07] <dekatch> lol, thats not ubuntu-offtopic :) no chit chat xd
[14:07] <tncki> ic
[14:07] <tncki> sorry
[14:08] <dekatch> just saying. thought you had an ubuntu relatd question.
[14:10] <tncki> I have just installed ubuntu 18.04, for 1 hour , and it seems good eough. I will work with it.
[14:11] <dekatch> yea, ubuntu is fine. if i wouldnt play games id use ubuntu only i guess
[14:12] <tncki> that's right.
[14:13] <tncki> Is there a stock app?
[14:13] <tncki> I want to trade stocks
[14:15] <IntelCore> i have 16.04 right, so the GDM available say 'Gnome on Wayland' but it won't run, and returns to the login.
[14:15] <IntelCore> missing something?
[14:16] <NoImNotNineVolt> tncki: casual traders use web-based trading interfaces.
[14:17] <IntelCore> i only gnome. no weston.. and do not know why the intel 500 graphics can't do wayland
[14:17] <tncki> thank you
[14:18] <tncki> thank you
[14:19] <IntelCore> mutter?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:19] <Eloi_> Hello! I've a small (but important for me) problem with chroot.
[14:20] <pragmatic_enigma> !ask | Eloi_
[14:20] <Eloi_> I'm chrooting into a raspbian system from my Ubuntu computer and I'm trying to install a xxx.deb file (dpkg -i xxx.deb) but
[14:20] <Eloi_> it tells me than /usr/bin/cmake cannot be found
[14:21] <Eloi_> even though if I do ls /usr/bin/cmake cmake is just fine.
[14:21] <IntelCore> where
[14:21] <pragmatic_enigma> Eloi_: Does it exist if you ls for it within the chroot environment?
[14:22] <Eloi_> Yes it does
[14:22] <Eloi_> but doing /usr/bin/cmake throw the bash: /usr/bin/cmake: No such file or directory
[14:23] <Eloi_> If I flash the image from my folder on my raspberry I can do the dpkg -i just fine
[14:23] <Eloi_> but I need to automate the creation of the image
[14:24] <pragmatic_enigma> Eloi_: This might be a better question to ask in the Raspberry PI community
[14:24] <geirha> the binary has a different architecture
[14:24] <geirha> you probably need a vm for this
[14:24] <Eloi_> pragmatic_enigma: I thought about it but it works perfectly on the raspberry it self
[14:25] <pragmatic_enigma> Eloi_: Yes, but you are building something for the Raspberry Pi, commonity members are going to be more familiar with setting up an environment for that purpose
[14:25] <Eloi_> geirha: Yeah, doing make on the chroot environment for a different architecture is stupid ?
[14:25] <Eloi_> I'm not familiar enough with compilation
[14:26] <jmgb4> Hey fellas, I tried to run the upgrade to bionic notification. It said my box was unable to upgrade and said something about dkpg. I hit ok thinking it would run that command but I dont thikn it did. I am just worried my box wont boot back up now... Anybody know what that command is off the top of their head?
[14:26] <geirha> I don't think you can run a binary built for arm on an x86_64 arch
[14:26] <Eloi_> I can use apt-get just fine
[14:26] <pragmatic_enigma> geirha: you can, it's just not as simple as take code, tell it to compile for different CPU arch
[14:26] <IntelCore> jmb4 - upgrade from 17.10/ or what
[14:26] <Eloi_> Ok, I'll find an alternative
[14:27] <tncki> goodbye all
[14:27] <Eloi_> Thank you for your help.
[14:27] <jmgb4> IntelCore, Yes
[14:28] <IntelCore> yes, July get the down 18.04 jmgb4
[14:28] <jmgb4> IntelCore, ?
[14:28] <IntelCore> or burn live-session on usb stick
[14:29] <jmgb4> IntelCore, What?
[14:30] <pragmatic_enigma> IntelCore: You need to include more complete thoughts to your suggestion. They make absolutely no sense
[14:32] <jmgb4> So anybody know if I just hosed my install by trying to do the upgrade?
[14:32] <IntelCore> Where and what where cmake, what cmake make
[14:33] <jmgb4> ?
[14:33] <pragmatic_enigma> IntelCore: That isn't helpful. Please stop
[14:34] <IntelCore> why wont gnome on wayland work on 16.04, pls
[14:36] <pragmatic_enigma> jmgb4: In the meantime... I'd back up any important files. Which you should have done before starting the upgrade. Then try and reboot and see what happens. There is no way to know what stage the upgrade got to existing. dpkg is required to perform installs, and if it wasn't compatible, it is unlikely anything actually changed.
[14:36] <jmgb4> Yeah thats what I am working on
[14:36] <jmgb4> Looks like ubuntu failed to do a proper upgrade script. Heh
[14:38] <pragmatic_enigma> jmgb4: That's unlikely. The script doesn't do a whole lot.. it boils down to changing the package repositories to point at the new release, and running apt dist-upgrade.. There are a few more operations than that, but that essentially is what the upgrade tool does
[14:39] <jmgb4> pragmatic_enigma, Well it failed ;)
[14:39] <jmgb4> Alright going down for a reboot
[14:40] <IntelCore> but, i will wait for July
[14:41] <IntelCore> except on this wayland
[14:42] <pragmatic_enigma> IntelCore: This is not a chat channel... if you have a valid support question, please ask it. If you would like to have general discussion, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:42] <jmgb4> here goes nothin
[14:46] <IntelCore> trying to find log to see the gdm error, when tried wayland
[14:47] <IntelCore> dat wrong. need sudo
[14:53] <jorvis> Does anyone know how to disable gnome's new On-Screen Keyboard (OSK) in Ubuntu 18.04?  I'm on a desktop and the thing pops up every single time I click in a terminal.
[14:55] <IntelCore> Onboard?
[14:56] <jorvis> Sorry, I'm not sure what that means
[14:56] <IntelCore> Onboard, in mine is application.
[14:56] <SimonNL> my menu shows onboard and onboard-settings
[14:57] <IntelCore> yes, that
[14:57] <jorvis> which onboard-settings and which onboard both return nothing
[14:58] <pragmaticenigma> onbaord is for Unity. Gnome has a different application for the onscreen keybaord
[14:58] <pragmaticenigma> I think
[14:59] <alwyn> Hi
[14:59] <jorvis> Yes, gnome rewrote the on screen keyboard completely in 3.28.  It's just called OSK
[14:59] <jorvis> Replaces Caribou
[14:59] <IntelCore> open activities overview.. universal access .. switch to screen keyboard.
[14:59] <alwyn> Against my better judgment I upgraded my "new" developer edition xps 13 to 18.04
[14:59] <alwyn> There were errors during the upgrade
[15:00] <alwyn> Restarted, now cannot log in at all
[15:00] <alwyn> anyone had similar issues?
[15:00] <jmgb4> Alright it didnt hose anything but apt is running super slow, same with su
[15:00] <jorvis> IntelCore:  Screen Keyboard is already in OFF position.  Putting it ON of course didn't help either.
[15:00] <IntelCore> gack
[15:01] <jmgb4> IntelCore, Whats interesting is it still upgraded even after the error
[15:01] <IntelCore> this with terminal
[15:01] <alwyn> Shows the ubuntu dot load screen, then blank screen.  Go to console, type in username, login loop with no password prompt
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> jmgb4: You could try "sudo apt-get autoclean" I suspect aptitude is reoptimizing the package caches
[15:02] <jmgb4> pragmaticenigma, Just ran an autoclean
[15:02] <jmgb4> Pulled some things
[15:02] <jorvis> IntelCore: Should I make a screencap video and file a bug?
[15:04] <jmgb4> pragmaticenigma, Any guess about the su taking forever?
[15:04] <IntelCore> jorvis - did u see terminal, E, and edit pref. to see if a setting can be changed?
[15:04] <jmgb4> brb
[15:06] <jorvis> IntelCore:  I can look, but it happens anywhere there is input.  Here, in xchat, for example.  When I type in this box the keyboard appears and shifts all my windows up.
[15:08] <IntelCore> There is Keyboard accessibility on Terminal window
[15:08] <IntelCore> need to be turned off
[15:09] <pragmaticenigma> jmgb4: I wouldn't know about su, I've never had to use it
[15:09] <IntelCore> on my Ctrl+Alt+T, I read help, and find the topic
[15:10] <jmgb4> pragmaticenigma, Ive never understood sudo. Seems like a waste of time for me
[15:10] <IntelCore> i will do if i am a super user?
[15:11] <jmgb4> Sudo doesnt prevent you from making a mistake. Its just another command to type out. Its the same concept as punching yourself in the face or better yet taking a second to read what you type before smashing the enter key.
[15:12] <IntelCore> a asking question. required to do. gives access.
[15:12] <IntelCore> are u sure? then sudo me
[15:12] <jmgb4> IntelCore, What?
[15:13] <IntelCore> and sudo offers one to do.. over any other
[15:13] <pavlos> jmgb4: you can read this, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudo
[15:14] <jmgb4> pavlos, I have. I understand why its there. As I said before it doesnt prevent you from making a mistake (ie rm -rf / as root is the same as sudo rm -rf /))
[15:14] <jorvis> IntelCore:  I made a video showing the issue:  https://youtu.be/dWMAaIcvHCQ
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> jmgb4: That's an opinion and doesn't belong in the support channel. What each persons personal preference is, is their own. And debate on that belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:15] <rdias002> can anybody help me, how do i uninstall MITMf from my Ubuntu 18 system? I installed it via the instructions at: https://github.com/byt3bl33d3r/MITMf/wiki/Installation
[15:15] <pavlos> jmgb4: I read earlier that you wrote "seems a waste of time" ... sure, you can mess up a system with sudo.
[15:16] <jmgb4> pavlos, try sudo su for me. How long does it take
[15:16] <IntelCore> su subs user
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> rdias002: First, we are unable to help with that. If the software isn't installed via Ubuntu's package management, we don't have the documenation on how to remove it. Second, at the top of that page, did you see the: "Install this in a virtual environment" if you had, you could just remove the vm.
[15:17] <jmgb4> IntelCore, Just sudo su will work.
[15:17] <pavlos> jmgb4: I did, took me 1 second.
[15:17] <pragmaticenigma> rdias002: Otherwise, you will have to reach out the developer or their support community for help
[15:17] <IntelCore> can i root ubuntu 16.04
[15:17] <jmgb4> pavlos, Yeah mine is taking like 5-10 seconds to even display a password: prompt
[15:18] <pavlos> jmgb4: verify that your hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname match
[15:18] <rdias002> pragmaticicenigma, oh snap, my bad. thank you. will be more careful next time
[15:19] <IntelCore> htop let me see, like all running on my pc.
[15:19] <jmgb4> pavlos, Beat me to it. I was reading the article on it. That was it, somehow my hostname file was empty.
[15:20] <pavlos> jmgb4: glad it works now
[15:23] <jmgb4> Now my hosts file is also hosed. Even though I told the upgrade to not touch it, it still did
[15:23] <jmgb4> Good thing for the backup
[15:26] <IntelCore> su root in 16.04 giving Authentication failure.
[15:28] <alwyn> Any help on the XPS 13 login loop issue?
[15:31] <IntelCore> alwyn - is it a Dell?  Is it Ubuntu 17.10?
[15:31] <alwyn> Dell XPS 13 shipped with 16.04 LTS
[15:31] <alwyn> tried to dist-upgrade to 18.04
[15:31] <alwyn> Latest XPS 13
[15:32] <alwyn> It mentioned some packages failed, but I didn't expect it to completely hose the system
[15:33] <alwyn> ubuntu loading splash comes up, eventually goes black.  Difficult to get to console with Ctrl-Alt-F3, but when I get there it just loops on username prompt
[15:34] <IntelCore> k, cas gnome-session barfs
[15:36] <IntelCore>     the default wayland and x11 sessions, but to no avail: it is a login loop for both.
[15:36] <alwyn> ok recovery mode in grub seems to come up
[15:36] <alwyn> will check if that takes me anywhere
[15:36] <IntelCore> yes, it ask if u can access grub, safe
[15:37] <alwyn> ok, I'm in as root on console, what do you propose as next step to fixing it
[15:37] <IntelCore> need x11 session
[15:38] <alwyn> weird, started showing boot up log, then kicked me out of root and now irresponsive
[15:38] <IntelCore> lightdm?
[15:38] <alwyn> that's what it was configured for yes
[15:39] <IntelCore>  mine do this. on 16.04 wayland on gnome
[15:40] <IntelCore> the gdm say 'gnome on wayland' but it won't, it loop
[15:41] <alwyn> I was using lightdm with i3
[15:41] <alwyn> Doing recovery kernel now and picked dpkg, maybe reconf will haelp
[15:42] <IntelCore> gnome 4, will fix
[15:45] <alwyn> 4k console not fun
[15:45] <IntelCore> wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/wayland#Requirements
[15:51] <IntelCore> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[15:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> so indeed, it seems that i can't take an .so from one build and stick it into another build without segfaulting.
[15:51] <NoImNotNineVolt> even on the same box.
[15:52] <pragmaticenigma> NoImNotNineVolt: As was mentioned earlier, it won't work. Also, your topic isn't for support, it should be in a developer channel
[15:54] <qwrd> hey, quick question. How do you move /tmp folder to RAM? On some systems I hear you're supposed to set the RAMTMP=y in /etc/default/tmpfs file, but that file does not exist in ubuntu. Should I use fstab instead or is there another "correct" was of doing it?
[15:54] <NoImNotNineVolt> just needed to see it for myself. thanks.
[15:54] <alwyn> Ok, can see login page now, but cannot enter password, getting somewhere
[15:55] <pragmaticenigma> qwrd: For what reason are you attempting to do that?
[15:55] <qwrd> pragmaticenigma: SSD lifespan
[15:55] <ask-ygU51P56> qwrd, /var/log I think is worth thinking about too
[15:55] <pragmaticenigma> qwrd: The tiny amount of extended life you will find with that tactic is not worth the system stability issues you will have
[15:55] <ask-ygU51P56> qwrd, at least in such manner that it will get saved upon boot cycle
[15:56] <ask-ygU51P56> qwrd, make sure to drop swap too
[15:56] <qwrd> I did drop swap partition already and the /swapfile
[15:57] <ask-ygU51P56> yeah; if you're open to messing about w/ internal settings mayhap ubuntu is not the distro of choice
[15:57] <qwrd> also, noatime,commit=600 to my rootfs
[15:58] <chan201> hi
[15:58] <chan201> i want to upgrade to ubuntu 18 LTS, right now i have 16.4 LTS is it safe now to upgrade, Ubutnu 18 ui is soo good i got tempted to update.
[15:58] <ask-ygU51P56> works over here
[15:58] <longword> Works For Me but Your Mileage May Vary
[15:58] <ask-ygU51P56> w/ lubuntu tho, lack knowledge how pure ubuntu flavour is atm
[15:59] <longword> I'm on the purest of Ubuntu LTS
[15:59] <ask-ygU51P56> longword, serveR?
[15:59]  * ask-ygU51P56 likes ubuntu textmode
[15:59] <chan201> is it safe to switch to ubuntu 18 LTS.
[15:59] <ask-ygU51P56> chan201, it's released, concidered stable
[16:00] <ask-ygU51P56> chan201, some issues are present
[16:00] <blackflow> qwrd: with modern SSDs (bought in the past year or two), you'll sooner hit the age limit than the LBAs written. Plus they all have th wear leveling tech so, its's pointless to try shave those few bytes off.
[16:00] <ask-ygU51P56> chan201, check release notes, check bugs
[16:00] <ask-ygU51P56> chan201, if none affect you, try
[16:00] <ask-ygU51P56> if you so desire
[16:00] <ask-ygU51P56> this is free software
[16:00] <ask-ygU51P56> there's always a chance to get an error
[16:00] <lapaga> chan201, you can not do a standard upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 yet
[16:01] <ask-ygU51P56> despite the work put in by people from across the globe
[16:01] <chan201> Lapaga i know tha.
[16:01] <IntelCore> pragmaticenigma?  is this what I'm talking about Gnome on Wayland
[16:01] <IntelCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1695872
[16:01] <qwrd> blackflow: intersting. so I'll probably want to do just the basic stuff then i.o. remove swap and set the disk schedules to deadline
[16:01] <IntelCore> ty bot
[16:02] <blackflow> qwrd: let me put it this way. I have Samsung EVO750. 1.5yr old according to SMART data. a bit less than 10TB written in that period. That's a gentoo box that does very frequent (re)builds, way more than typical desktop usage.
[16:02] <chan201> i work with nginx,php ,mysql,linux every day on linux(ubuntu)any dependencys issues i will not upgrade it for now, I will wait.
[16:03] <blackflow> qwrd: and these things are rated for many dozens of TBs and many years. This is an interesting read too: https://techreport.com/review/27909/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-theyre-all-dead
[16:03] <qwrd> samsung SSD's are of the top quality
[16:05] <qwrd> there are some shitty ones to i.e. I read the crucial had some firmware bug that corrupted the filesystem when the wear leveling mechanism was activated
[16:05] <blackflow> qwrd: yeah, so putting /tmp into RAM or removing swap, all that is gonna save nothing.
[16:05] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy | qwrd
[16:06] <blackflow> qwrd: no hardware is 100% failsafe. Have frequent backups and don't waste your time trying to shave off a few bytes written to a disk that's passing hundreds of TB of writes :)
[16:07] <qwrd> okay, maybe I got a bit too paranoid after reading all those things you're *supposed* to do to save your SSD.
[16:07] <blackflow> qwrd: clickbait journalism, or very old advice. SSDs these days are pretty solid.
[16:07] <qwrd> no swap, use tmpfs, leave 10% unallocated disk space, mofe Firefox cache to ram, enable cron fstrim, etc...
[16:08] <qwrd> move*
[16:08] <qwrd> alright then, I'll just leave the device as is.
[16:08] <blackflow> qwrd: if you're really concerned with that, monitor the LBAs written, it should be part of every SSDs S.M.A.R.T data, and check for how many TBs is your disk rated.
[16:09] <blackflow> qwrd: then after a few years you'll see that it's been a few years and you're nowhere near the rated writes :)
[16:10] <qwrd> perhaps I should add a Conky entry that displays the lifespan on-screen
[16:10] <zenox> i've killed part of my ssd...
[16:10] <IntelCore> ha, count to death
[16:11] <zenox> i've been scraping some 30 million pages which just happened to be a single file.... that's a lot of disc access! tarring it up / even processing them all to merge them together is slow and a lot more reads
[16:11] <IntelCore> video is disk intense
[16:12] <alwyn> IntelCore: Black screen after login sound familiar?
[16:12] <zenox> the ssd suddenly became really slow, like, slower than my mechnical hdd... so i removed all these files, did a repair which fixed a few things (and took about a day + 1/2 btw) and since them things are back to normal
[16:13] <xika> hi everyone! I've tried setting up an encrypted ubuntu with uefi next to a windows installation. following the guides on ubuntusers. the system is installed and can be accessed via change root. two issues 1) boot loader does not show windows (may be solved later) 2) the encrypted volumes are not beeing mounted (my main issue)
[16:13] <xika> fstab shows the encrypted volumes, grub installs without errors
[16:13] <IntelCore> alwyn gir1.2-lightdm-1 in 16.04 has a prob. bug reported, and you need to run x11, or x.org, and put 16.04, or 17.10 back together, from pieces.
[16:14] <xika> (i am currently on live and in the system via chroot)
[16:14] <IntelCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1695872
[16:16] <IntelCore> it is either gdm, or lightdm, but no, the entry is on my 16.04. not working, and loops
[16:16] <blackflow> alwyn: have you checked the system logs for any obvious problems?  I think this issue has been mentioned a few times here, along iwth nouveau going titsup
[16:16] <94KAAADA7> STOP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:17] <zenox> now dance!
[16:17] <blackflow> hammertime!
[16:17] <alwyn> anyone know what I need to remove to get rid of Braille support?
[16:17] <zenox> your eyes
[16:17] <IntelCore> brtlly
[16:17] <alwyn> blackflow: I'm still trying to get to be able to read the system logs :)
[16:17] <zenox> oh, get rid of it... i read "get braille support"
[16:18] <IntelCore> gnome calls it activity
[16:18] <zenox> if a docker image uses a service like e.g. mysql, does it have to write data to a volume, even if it's just for testing and can be lost without hassle
[16:19] <comet23> does ubuntu mate come with vnc preinstalled?
[16:19] <IntelCore> i think what we are seeing is a sort of change, unity and 18.04 gnome
[16:19] <comet23> i don't have a monitor
[16:19] <blackflow> alwyn: reboot into non-graphical mode?
[16:20] <alwyn> blackflow: trying to, the only why I can get in at the moment is with recovery kernel
[16:20] <blackflow> alwyn: well that's good too. you should be able to check /var/log/syslog
[16:20] <alwyn> :blackflow I suspect the cylance service is working against me, going to stop it before running dpkg --configure -a again
[16:21] <alwyn> I hate cylance, it's only crapped up my system since they started using int
[16:21] <alwyn> it
[16:21] <blackflow> I have no idea what that is.
[16:21] <alwyn> AI meets malware checking
[16:21] <alwyn> match made in hell
[16:22] <blackflow> sounds like snake oil.
[16:22] <alwyn> yes, with all they right buzzwords for non-techy types
[16:23] <comet23> does ubuntu come with vnc preinstalled?'
[16:23] <streaky> technically plausible, i'd be impressed if it actually worked well though
[16:24] <alwyn> it keeps on killing anything opera related
[16:24] <streaky> i'd expect more like that :p
[16:25] <streaky> i'd imagine it's behaviour-based and you can't rely on user data because the data sets would get poisoned
[16:26] <alwyn> blackflow: For some reason when I'm dropped into root shell, something forces me out after some time
[16:28] <mdlpe> hi, after restoring my backup with tar, I got a lot of folders "paxheaders.2715" I don't remember see this before
[16:33] <IntelCore> 'Cosmic' 18.10
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> mdlpe: Did you use an application other than tar to create your tar archives>
[16:34] <pragmaticenigma> !cosmic
[16:34] <mdlpe> pragmaticenigma: absolutly not
[16:34] <yokowka> hello every soul!!!! is viber loads on ubuntu 18.04?
[16:35] <IntelCore> cosmic canimal
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> mdlpe: Explination: https://stackoverflow.com/a/34688582
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: can we help you?
[16:35] <IntelCore> got a billion?
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | IntelCore
[16:36] <analyser> Hello! The module for my ethernet adapter is not being loaded in boot time anymore (r8169). Any idea how to fix it ? (ubuntu 16.04)
[16:37] <IntelCore> lotuspsychje - I have been here looking for help, why gnome on wayland session loopback and wont run on 16.04
[16:37] <yemmit> hey everyone, i did an upgrade to 18.04. (do release upgrade). Now i am booting into a kernel panic. Am i at the right adress here to get help ?
[16:37] <ioria> analyser, i'd start with dmesg | grep -i myinterface or grep r8169
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> yemmit: from wich release did you upgrade mate?
[16:38] <IntelCore> lotuspsycheje - uhm, so i see a bug on lauchpad, to do with lightdm?
[16:38] <ioria> IntelCore, maybe because there is no wayland on xenial ?
[16:38] <mdlpe> pragmaticenigma: thanks,
[16:38] <yemmit> lotuspsycheje 17.10 perhaps i should mention its a dual bott system
[16:38] <kostkon> yemmit, you are
[16:38] <IntelCore> ioria, i got wayland, an it made a entry 'gnome on wayland
[16:39] <analyser> ioria: the unique records that I was ablet to retrieve comes from when I loaded the module manually
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> yemmit: can you still enter grub, perhaps try to load a previous kernel?
[16:40] <ioria> analyser, lspci -k | grep -i Ether -A 2
[16:40] <yemmit> tried that same result in VFS: unable to mount root fs on unkown
[16:41] <IntelCore> I found wayland using synaptic
[16:41] <ioria> really
[16:41] <NoImNotNineVolt> pragmaticenigma: though, beyond "that's not going to work", can you provide more information? it seems like it's not because of PIE, since that would have more to do with runtime than entry points being different in the actual binary, no?
[16:41] <IntelCore> it aughta work
[16:41] <analyser> ioria: that displays correclty the adapter and module that I had loaded
[16:41] <IntelCore> bbiab.. if u can help post
[16:42] <yemmit> lotuspsychje. and yeah i can enter grub
[16:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> or blackflow, as you were the one who originally suggested it wouldn't work
[16:42] <ioria> analyser,  paste it, please
[16:42] <pragmaticenigma> NoImNotNineVolt: This isn't the correct channel for that topic
[16:42] <NoImNotNineVolt> pragmaticenigma: for understanding why i can't get reproducible builds of ubuntu packages?
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> yemmit: try to boot another kernel, or on your current kernel, catch the errors on your kernel panic
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> yemmit: can you also tell us wich kernel version, panics?
[16:43] <BriggsE> Is there a chance someone could help me with setting pointing speed on a pointing stick?
[16:43] <ioria> IntelCore, 1) you need gnome as de 2) only oss drivers 3) it's just experimental
[16:43] <BriggsE> I have a dell precision. And i do not have the deceleration option in xinput
[16:44] <yemmit> lotuspsychje i gonna check brb
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> yemmit: F1 at boot, to see text booting
[16:44] <gabboman> where can I report a bug?
[16:44] <analyser> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PDR3HRF7Zq/
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> gabboman: ubuntu-bug yourpackage
[16:45] <gabboman> thanks
[16:45] <gabboman> but how can I add details
[16:45] <gabboman> like an screenshot
[16:45] <pragmaticenigma> NoImNotNineVolt: Discussion about builds and the like belong in #ubuntu-app-devel
[16:45] <analyser> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2RW8Bk5rVF/
[16:45] <NoImNotNineVolt> thanks
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> gabboman: perhaps you can share your issue here first, maybe its a known bug?
[16:46] <gabboman> the emojis at thunderbird take too much space sometimes
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> gabboman: ubuntu 18.04?
[16:46] <gabboman> in my email list its wrong, and also in the irc thing, just joined to a chanel and was with a huge emoji
[16:46] <gabboman> yes
[16:46] <ioria> analyser, looks perfect
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> analyser ioria got an existing from not long ago too on customer machine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1769386
[16:48] <analyser> ioria: indeed... but for some reason the module is not being loaded at boot time
[16:48] <analyser> ioria: :/
[16:48] <ioria> analyser, then reboot, and grep again ...
[16:48] <ioria> analyser, we need the error
[16:48] <vinno> Hey guys, I pressed ctrl+a then esc to buffer scroll in BYOBU, is there a way to escape this mode so i can type again??
[16:48] <ioria> lotuspsychje, checking ...
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> gabboman: can you see if screenshot is like you? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1178430
[16:49] <gabboman> lotuspsychje: yes! thats exactly
[16:50] <gabboman> also when I type an account password it feels really laggy
[16:50] <gabboman> but I will try the font thing, thanks!
[16:50] <IntelCore> ioria. back. got plain gnome. it runs on 16.04 unity
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> gabboman: known bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1761844
[16:51] <IntelCore> ioria 18.04 live from usb booted
[16:51] <gabboman> I see. thanks a lot
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> gabboman: add yourself affected and help yourself and the community, perhaps add your screenshot?
[16:51] <analyser> ioria: I still have the full dmesg from the booting time. There's no more leads here :/ BTW, I've just booted. I gotta work. Thanks for trying =)
[16:52] <IntelCore> lotuspsycheje - also firefox
[16:52] <IntelCore> large icon
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: can you stop random chat in here please
[16:53] <xika> I've manually installed encrypted ubuntu 18.04 on an computer with UEFI and Windows 10. The bootloader loads but the encrypted lvm-partitions are not beeing mounted and booting fails.
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> xika: can you explain what you mean by "manually installed"
[16:59] <PCatinean> How do I replace an instance of "*/build/*" with something else in a file and also append with a newline another information after a last parameter in an ini file?
[16:59] <xika> @pragmaticenigma i first created the encrypted partions in the command line and then started the installer
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | xika see also
[17:00] <xika> thank you, will read those and report back @lotuspsychje & @pragmaticenigma
[17:01] <yemmit> lotuspsychje: i was wrong the kernelpanic just happens with 4.15.0-20-generic
[17:01] <yemmit> lotuspsychje: with 4.13 for example the booting works
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> yemmit: great to hear!
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> yemmit: i recently tested lubuntu 18.04 on 4.15 kernel like you, got the same issue, 16.04 runs fine on same machine
[17:03] <yemmit> lotuspsychje: ok can i downgrade again somehow or is a new installation needed?
[17:03] <alwyn> could login for a moment and then went all haywire again
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> yemmit: well booting kernels isnt really up or downgrading
[17:04] <ioria> lotuspsychje, what issue you had with lubuntu 18.04 ?
[17:04] <alwyn> What is [nm]odemanager service?
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> ioria: didnt wanna boot, panic before login like yemmit
[17:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> is it a terrible idea to have gcc/ld/etc on an apache httpd server?
[17:05] <ioria> lotuspsychje, you checked the media installer ?
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> ioria: yes, the usb stick works didnt test md5 though..
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> ioria: tryed xubuntu 18.04 right after, same panic at boot
[17:07] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i just installed it on Pentium4 in bios mode , no problem , you're using uefi ?
[17:07] <pragmaticenigma> NoImNotNineVolt: Not really
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> ioria: no, it was a real old machine
[17:08] <ioria> lotuspsychje, weird, installed and not booting or not installing at all ? (or with errors)
[17:08] <pragmaticenigma> NoImNotNineVolt: If the system holds sensitive information and is exposed to the web, it might not be best practice. But without GCC, it'd be difficult to install some applications
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> ioria: installed fine, tryed minimal, normal and xubuntu, all got stuck before login
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> ioria: same machine runs lubuntu xenial fine
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ioria: so i presume kernel doesnt like
[17:09] <blackflow> NoImNotNineVolt: it's an old myth that having the compiler around on a production machine makes it less secure in any way.
[17:09] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i see
[17:09] <NoImNotNineVolt> indeed, but i'm an old man :P
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ioria: want me to check exact error?
[17:09] <xika> @lotuspsychje & @pragmaticenigma i guess i followed most of these, but some parts seem to be outdated. i have loged into the installed system via chroot, added the lvm to the crypttab, fstab contains the partitions, grub installs without problems and shows the ubuntu installation, but the drives are not beeing mounted. is there a way to access the log of the last bootprocess? then i could show you those lines
[17:09] <gogeta> NoImNotNineVolt, WONDERFULL!!!
[17:09] <ioria> lotuspsychje, if you have time, yes
[17:10] <xika> this is the guide i used to set it up (german): https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/System_verschl%C3%BCsseln/#Ins-verschluesselte-System-wechseln
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> ioria: lol..what the..it just boots into desktop now
[17:15] <ioria> lol
[17:15] <PCatinean> How can one replace (x number of whitespaces) content with (x number of whitespaces) content \n (x number of whitespaces) some other content?
[17:15] <PCatinean> basically adding a new line to a ini file more or less
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> ioria: seems like 4.15.0-20 :p
[17:15] <xirg> PCatinean, what interface?
[17:15] <PCatinean> xirg, bash, or what are you refering to?
[17:15] <ioria> lotuspsychje, ok
[17:15] <xirg> oo ok bash I dont know.  I could spew out some python tho
[17:15] <pragmaticenigma> xika: Was there a purpose for encrypting the partition before installation? Ubuntu can do disk encryption as part of the installation
[17:16] <xirg> im still learning ubuntu
[17:19] <xika> pragmaticenigma as far as i understood this does not work next to an existing windows installation
[17:19] <pragmaticenigma> xika: Oh, I did not know that
[17:19] <xika> but i can start from scratch if it does
[17:19] <ioria> in dual boot it's a bit more complicated, yes
[17:19] <pragmaticenigma> xika: I'm not sure, I haven't done much with dual booting configurations
[17:20] <ioria> xika, the question is : How strong is your Linux-fu?   :)
[17:20] <xika> usually good, but i've spent 3h on this problem now
[17:21] <xika> i think 90% is in place. it just doesnt prompt me to unlock the encrypted lvm
[17:22] <ioria> xika, you know 'evil maid' ?
[17:23] <xika> no
[17:24] <ioria> xika,  and in efi mode (with a shared partition) it 's even worst
[17:25] <xika> ioria: yeah, i could disable efi, but I'm not sure what consequences this will have on the windows installation
[17:26] <ioria> xika,  i guess they are on the same disk ?
[17:26] <xika> yes they are
[17:27] <ioria> xika,  so, you have to install ubuntu in  efi mode too
[17:28] <xika> yes, i followed the extra steps for efi in the guide
[17:30] <ioria> xika,  if i may, a separate hard drive for Ubuntu would be better
[17:30] <xika> i only have one drive available at the moment
[17:30] <ioria> xika,  with no common Grub.
[17:32] <xika> ioria: i dont understand your last statement. is the an alternative to grub?
[17:33] <ioria> xika,  ust manually boot either from BIOS
[17:33] <ioria> xika,  *just
[17:33] <alwyn> Ok, dpkg is finally upgrading the kernel, I might be totally screwed soon
[17:34] <xika> ioria: but i still need to de-crypt the volumes and that is not happening right now
[17:35] <ioria> xika,  with a separate disk (and no shared efi) you can use the Automatic partioning
[17:35] <xika> yes, but i only have on drive available
[17:40] <impi> hello
[17:40] <impi> on 18.04 with gnome - when i rightclick on a window bar to keep it above others the window keeps resizing
[17:40] <xika> ok, well it seems i need to get another drive. i can then move the /-partition over to the ssd once it is set up and only have /home /boot ... on the non-ssd. thanks for your time ioria
[17:41] <impi> in the past i had a menu to select keep above others
[17:41] <ioria> xika,  ok, good luck
[17:41] <impi> do you perhaps know how to do it now?
[17:41] <PCatinean> sed '/^\([[:blank:]]*\)\*__manifest*/a x' .coveragerc
[17:41] <PCatinean> I got this far into getting the line and appending after it, now I just have to preserve the newlines, anyone know how to ?
[17:47] <alwyn> blackthrow: Ok, after running dpkg a zillion times in recovery mode, all is well
[17:49] <ubuntu> Hello
[17:49] <Guest3622> Hi
[17:50] <blackflow> alwyn: doing what?
[17:58] <alwyn> blackflow: I just kept on using dpkg to fix the install in recovery boot until things returned to normal
[18:02] <alwyn> Where are snaps installed on disk?
[18:02] <leftyfb> alwyn: /snap/
[18:08] <alwyn> leftyfb: any way you can add files to a snap?  I have some dark theme css for slack
[18:09] <leftyfb> alwyn: ~/.snap/
[18:09] <leftyfb> er
[18:09] <leftyfb> alwyn: ~/snap/
[18:09] <alwyn> thanks
[18:09] <alwyn> leftyfb: ah, that's cool
[18:13] <RoadRunner> Want to switch video card from Nvidia to AMD on an existing Xubuntu 16.04 install. This is the driver that's currently installed: https://imgur.com/a/EClJjtn
[18:13] <RoadRunner>  Do I need to uninstal this nvidia driver first before swaping cards or will xubuntu do the driver switch automaticaly on next reboot? If need to uninstall manually, then how?
[18:13] <xirg> why is ufw constantly blocking stuff on my server?
[18:13] <xirg> are these hackers / bots / both?
[18:14] <xirg> this server isn't even advertised anywhere and it's basically brand new
[18:14] <brainwash> RoadRunner: I would uninstall it beforehand
[18:14] <RoadRunner> brainwash: then how, and will the screen not go blank if I do?
[18:15] <brainwash> via terminal "sudo apt purge nvidia* "
[18:15] <brainwash> why would it go blank?
[18:16] <andrew09> Why does VLC always start without the title bar in the corner of the screen? https://i.imgur.com/znvjb4g.png
[18:16] <brainwash> I mean you want to switch the gpu
[18:16] <brainwash> RoadRunner: so, I don't expect you to boot into the system with the nvidia one still in there
[18:17] <RoadRunner> brainwash: so, once the nvidia driver loads into ram it is safe to remove it from HD without loosing the screen?
[18:18] <brainwash> I guess
[18:18] <hardcore_vaughan> hi!
[18:18] <RoadRunner> brainwash: its the "guess" part that concerns me :)
[18:20] <brainwash> RoadRunner: you could logout first, and do the uninstallation via console
[18:21] <RoadRunner> brainwash: but even without gui, I am still using the screen, right?
[18:22] <alwyn> Anyone ever mounted a snap squash image as rw?
[18:23] <brainwash> RoadRunner: are you trying to say that there is no way to remove the nvidia driver?
[18:23] <andrew09> Why does VLC always start without the title bar in the corner of the screen? https://i.imgur.com/znvjb4g.png
[18:23] <NoImNotNineVolt> because you didn't press ctrl-h
[18:24] <kostkon> andrew09, how did you install it
[18:24] <hardcore_vaughan> andrew09: try mpv
[18:25] <hardcore_vaughan> andrew09: and you shouldn't need to worry about corners
[18:25] <RoadRunner> brainwash: no, I am just thinking that after purging the driver, unless its in ram, I may loose the image; at least, as you can see from my paste, there doesn't seem to be a gui way to remove it from "Software & Updates"
[18:27] <brainwash> RoadRunner: switching to option #2 should be the equivalent I'd think
[18:27] <andrew09> kostkon: from the terminal
[18:28] <andrew09> hardcore_vaughan: I need to move it to the right down corner but without the title bar I have no idea how to
[18:29] <hardcore_vaughan> andrew09: press and hold down ALT and drag&drop it with the mouse
[18:29] <RoadRunner> brainwash: I seem to recall xamithan saying that the driver in option 2 is actually more likely to create a black screen in a card switch...
[18:30] <kostkon> andrew09, try the various option in preferences → interface  or remove it and install the snap version with  sudo snap install vlc
[18:30] <kostkon> options*
[18:31] <kostkon> andrew09, i'm guessing you are not able to access vlc's preferences
[18:31] <kaili> Hello everyone
[18:32] <kaili> My ubuntu 18.04 is getting a bit craze when I connect my android phone on USB. Sometimes it's stable, sometimes it connects / disconnects a few time before disconnecting it until I plug again
[18:32] <kaili> But there is more, each time it seems to create a new mounting folder in /media/username/
[18:32] <RoadRunner> brainwash: assuming that I do get a black screen, power down, switch cards and power back on: For xubuntu to install the AMD driver, does the comp need to have an internet connection or is the driver already present in some kernel "extras" package that's already on the hard drive?
[18:32] <andrew09> kostkon: I tried the snap package and while I didn't face this problem it also didn't seem to remember my prefrences
[18:32] <kaili> I'm already at 47 folders o_o
[18:32] <kostkon> andrew09, hmm strange
[18:33] <hardcore_vaughan> kaili: check the usb cable first :D
[18:33] <brainwash> RoadRunner: the open source driver should be present
[18:34] <Es0teric> anybody use digitalocean here? i am having a small authentication problem to ssh into the server
[18:34] <kaili> hardcore_vaughan: there is no problem using on my other mac or if I reboot on Windows on the same machine
[18:34] <kaili> It connects and it's stable
[18:34] <andrew09> hardcore_vaughan: it worked, but when I reopen it it comes back to the same position in the corner
[18:34] <RoadRunner> brainwash: so internet isn't needed for the switch for sure?
[18:35] <hardcore_vaughan> andrew09: is it XFCE ?
[18:36] <andrew09> hardcore_vaughan: LXDE
[18:36] <intenso> hi
[18:37] <intenso> just installed xubuntu on my pc but my headphone jack dont have sound? any help
[18:38] <hardcore_vaughan> andrew09: from the picture you've sent, I'm not sure you are using any window manager.
[18:40] <hardcore_vaughan> andrew09: "The default window manager used is Openbox, but one can configure a third-party window manager for use with LXDE, such as Fluxbox, IceWM or Xfwm." via wikipedia
[18:41] <hardcore_vaughan> intenso: https://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[18:41] <intenso> thanks
[18:41] <hardcore_vaughan> intenso: ywc i hope you can fix it
[18:42] <alwyn> intenso: run alsamixer and check if it is muted
[18:42] <brainwash> RoadRunner: maybe. I assume that xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu are already present on your system
[18:42] <hardcore_vaughan> Es0teric: what errror message do you get?
[18:43] <intenso> alwyn,   i have this Item: Auto-Mute Mode [Enabled]
[18:44] <intenso> but i cannot disable it by pressing M
[18:44] <alwyn> intenso: does your headphone also say MM?
[18:44] <intenso> no
[18:45] <alwyn> I have auto-mute enabled too
[18:45] <intenso> headphone says 100 100
[18:45] <intenso> ss
[18:45] <alwyn> and master is not 0?
[18:46] <intenso> master  97
[18:46] <intenso> ss
[18:46] <alwyn> maybe you blew it :)
[18:46] <alwyn> PCM?
[18:46] <na2s> Since updating from 16.04 to 18.04, I have no sound.  Pulseaudio lists all the right cards, but only the dummy sink.  Any idea how to correct?
[18:47] <intenso> mine is 18.04 too
[18:47] <dnegreira> if you run pulseaudio --start --exit-idle-time=-1
[18:47] <dnegreira> does it fix it ?
[18:47] <Es0teric> hardcore_vaughan nvm... i fixed it by changing PasswordAuthorization to yes
[18:47] <Es0teric> temporarily
[18:48] <hardcore_vaughan> Es0teric: good! ssh-copy-id then
[18:49] <Es0teric> yep
[18:57] <Allanis> I'm needing dpkg-deb any idea where I can grab it? I couldn't find a package it seems.
[18:59] <leftyfb> Allanis: dpkg-deb is a binary included with dpkg which you should already have installed
[18:59] <Allanis> Oh I do. Sorry didn't even check! Mkay, the installer that needs it just can't find it then. This is annoying.
[19:00] <Allanis> Trying to Get AdobeAir installed, I'm most way there. Just need it to find dpkg-deb somehow.
[19:00] <RoadRunner> brainwash: btw, why purge nvidia rather then rm?
[19:00] <trofen> Hey guys! Wassup?
[19:01] <trofen> Looks like youre all dead
[19:02] <kab0m> trofen: Living dead over here :D
[19:03] <trofen> What hardware do you use, guys?
[19:03] <trofen> Where are you from?
[19:03] <trofen> Im from Orange Pi PC from Russia
[19:05] <genii> trofen: If you have a support question then this is the correct area to ask, but for more general talk the #ubuntu-offtopic channel is probably better
[19:06] <trofen> genii: Oh, sorry, my bad
[19:12] <brainwash> RoadRunner: you want to keep some nvidia config files?
[19:17] <TBotNik> All; Having issues with MySQL! Will not start!  When I run "service mysql start" I get the error "start: Job failed to start"! I ran some recovery BASH scripts I had from before and was, when running the cmd "mysqld -u root -p --skip-grant-options" getting the error: "mysql error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'" but after running the scripts now getting the error: "180508 13:
[19:17] <TBotNik> 51:37 [Warning] Ignoring user change to 'root' because the user was set to 'mysql' earlier on the command line"!
[19:18] <TBotNik> So then ran the cmd: "mysqld -u mysql -p --skip-grant-options" it says it started and gives a process number, but running "ps -A | grep mysql" or "ps -A | grep mysqld" nothing shows. and even running "ps -A | grep procnumber" shows no process.  What do I need to fix this?
[19:18] <xirg> if a web app is supposed to send an email but I'm not receiving an email or errors, what can I do next?
[19:19] <xirg> I've checked apache errors & the app's errors but didn't see anything relevant
[19:21] <TBotNik> xirg: What SMTP service are you using and what are the settings?
[19:21] <RoadRunner> brainwash: I was thinking, in case the amd card I got is not going to pan out, and I'll have to, at least temporarily, go back to the nvidia one, maybe, having configs for now wouldn't be bad and if all will be ok, purge later?
[19:22] <andrew09> hardcore_vaughan: yes, it's openbox. any idea on how to make vlc start at a specific position?
[19:23] <xirg> TBotNik, i installed postfix
[19:25] <xirg> it looks like it's configured to use tls
[19:25] <gpap> Hello everybody
[19:27] <xirg> here's my postfix config
[19:27] <xirg> https://pastebin.com/zLSFSFfi
[19:29] <iresf> hi
[19:30] <RoadRunner> RoadRunner: does apt purge remove only config files or packages AND their associated configs?
[19:30] <iresf> i can not delete http_proxy in ubuntu terminal   i used unset http_proxy but  after run printenv   it showed http_proxy  again
[19:31] <gpap> i have faced an odd problem with Nautilus and external monitor.  My external monitor is an 19 inches Eizo Nanao. Onto this monitor Nautilus couldn't stick onto the right or left side, only maximize or unmaximize was possible.   I am happy to inform the community that i solved the problem by just changing the monitor. I connected a 24 inches LG monitor, so the problem disappeared. Look like that software couldn't handle the 19 inches external mon
[19:31] <gpap> itor.
[19:32] <TBotNik> xirg: Did you also install FetchMail?
[19:33] <xirg> nope
[19:33] <xirg> TBotNik, nope i did not
[19:34] <TBotNik> xirg: You need that as companion to PostFix!
[19:34] <ioria> dovecot maybe
[19:34] <xirg> OO I installed something like mail-utils or something that was described as "everything" postfix needs to run, i guess my sauce was worng :(
[19:35] <ioria> xirg, postfix = send ; dovecot = recieve
[19:35] <TBotNik> xirg: If I remember right there is also another SMTP addon for PostFix.  Fetchmail does the IMAP or POP3 to get emails into PostFix.
[19:36] <xirg> Oh okay
[19:37] <TBotNik> All: Anyone have an answer to my mysql issue?
[19:37] <xirg> i'm having problems sending mail, I have no desire to receive mail on this server... as of yet
[19:38] <xirg> it's a web app that wants to send mail, let me paste the app's mail.php file (the mail config file)
[19:39] <ioria> xirg, as web-app, you mean a webmail client ?
[19:39] <TBotNik> xirg: What are you trying to do?  I had huge problems configuring PHPlist, because was using google smtp and PHPlist is the auto emailer that Constant Contact and others use
[19:39] <xirg> nope, it's a password reset form for a login to firefly-iii
[19:41] <xirg> here's the config file for the app: https://pastebin.com/91gB7cfV
[19:42] <malwar3hun73r> i'm seeing the error "mount: /dev/loop0: can't read superblock" when trying to mount an NTFS image in ubuntu. Been searching for a while now and can't find anything that helps.
[19:44] <leftyfb> malwar3hun73r: why are you using loop0?
[19:45] <xirg> sorry you're having mysqsl problems, TBotNik, mine fired right up
[19:45] <leftyfb> malwar3hun73r: is it an image of a drive with multiple partitions or is it an image of an NTFS partition?
[19:47] <malwar3hun73r> it is an image with multiple partitions on it, one of which is ntfs
[19:47] <ioria> xirg, possibly, those financial  apps want lts/ssl encryption running on a different port than 25 (465)
[19:48] <malwar3hun73r> leftyfb, it is an image with multiple partitions on it, one of which is ntfs. i'm not specifying loop0 in the mount command
[19:50] <malwar3hun73r> sudo mount -o ro,offset=65802240 000035.001 /mnt/windows_mount
[19:51] <flask-> Hey guys. I'm running Kubuntu 18.04 -- if I ran apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, would that be enough to safely switch back and forth between KDE and the GNOME Shell based default Ubuntu desktop?
[19:51] <leftyfb> malwar3hun73r: when using losetup, try a different loop. Like loop7
[19:51] <pragmaticenigma> flask-: effectively, yes... when you're in the login screen you will see the option to select between the two desktop environments
[19:52] <xirg> ioria, thanks I'll look into that
[19:52] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: use sudo partprobe /dev/loopX
[19:53] <EriC^^> so it reads the partitions, then use what names you get under lsblk for the /dev/loopX
[19:53] <EriC^^> /dev/loopXp1 for instance
[19:53] <flask-> @pragmaticenigma: Okay and if I wanted to switch the login manager?
[19:54] <pragmaticenigma> flask-: Do you know what login manager Kubuntu is using?
[19:55] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[19:55] <xirg> Okay thanks for all the help guys i gotta go home nows
[19:55] <xirg> later
[19:56] <dbugger> I am having trouble installing ruby with rbenv, under 18.04. Does anyone know why I get this error? "BUILD FAILED (Ubuntu 18.04 using ruby-build 20180424"
[19:56] <pragmaticenigma> flask-: if you install ubuntu-desktop, it will change it to gdm... I don't know what Kubuntu uses by default
[19:56] <genii> Kubuntu uses sddm by default
[19:57] <pragmaticenigma> thanks genii
[19:57] <genii> np
[19:59] <jeffree> I just did an apt upgrade and rebooted, now sound doesn't work from line out but does from hdmi. How should I debug?
[19:59] <malwar3hun73r> EriC^^, leftyfb "sudo losetup -f -v /media/sf_Images/000035.001" works
[20:00] <malwar3hun73r> sudo losetup -a ==> /dev/loop0: [0045]:2 (/media/sf_Images/000035.001)
[20:00] <malwar3hun73r> but, then
[20:00] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: type 'sudo partprobe /dev/loop0'
[20:00] <malwar3hun73r> and then?
[20:00] <malwar3hun73r> $ sudo mount -o ro,offset=65802240 /dev/loop0 /mnt/windows_mount
[20:00] <malwar3hun73r> mount: /dev/loop1: can't read superblock
[20:00] <EriC^^> then mount the partition you want, get the list from 'lsblk'
[20:01] <malwar3hun73r> it's not shown in lsblk, all i have is loop0
[20:01] <malwar3hun73r> loop0    7:0    0  149G  1 loop
[20:01] <EriC^^> even after sudo partprobe /dev/loop0 ?
[20:01] <malwar3hun73r> yes
[20:02] <EriC^^> sounds like the disk's partition table is screwed up or something?
[20:02] <malwar3hun73r> i would agree, but i can open it with ftk imager no problem
[20:02] <malwar3hun73r> the images were created as dd images from with ftk
[20:03] <RoadRunner> does 'apt purge' remove only config files or packages AND their associated configs?
[20:03] <malwar3hun73r> not sure if that dorks something or not
[20:03] <EriC^^> RoadRunner: both packages and configs
[20:03] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: are you sure about the offset?
[20:04] <EriC^^> it's the byte or sector?
[20:04] <malwar3hun73r> 003:  000:001   0000128520   0312496379   0312367860   NTFS / exFAT (0x07)
[20:04] <malwar3hun73r> output of mmls on the file shows a start of 128520
[20:04] <malwar3hun73r> 128520 * 512 = 65802240
[20:05] <EriC^^> maybe it's a 4096 block?
[20:05] <malwar3hun73r> mmls says units are in 512-byte sectors
[20:06] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: try testdisk
[20:06] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[20:06] <malwar3hun73r> it's already installed
[20:06] <malwar3hun73r> run analyze?
[20:06] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:07] <malwar3hun73r> it shows a different number of partitions
[20:08] <malwar3hun73r> but, there are more numbers than columns... not sure how to read this output yet
[20:08] <TBotNik> xirg: Even did apt-get remove on all of it and it still won't work.  Had a similar issue b4 when there was a conflict between mysql 6 and mysql 7.  Had to remove the mysql7, but completely forgot how I did that.
[20:09] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: upload it somewhere
[20:10] <malwar3hun73r> EriC^^, https://pastebin.com/tmzZgL8m
[20:11] <TBotNik> xirg: Did you find the SMTP addon for PostFix?
[20:12] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: xirg left awhile ago
[20:13] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: xirg's id is still showing!
[20:13] <omarp> Hi all,could someone help me with the following issue? : Trying to run nvidia-docker2 in ubuntu18.04 I get an error: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F2JWJtP8fS/
[20:13] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: <xirg> Okay thanks for all the help guys i gotta go home nows
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[20:14] <ikonia> omarp: you can't start the container, so it's pointless to try to connect to it
[20:14] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: try with offset=410112
[20:15] <malwar3hun73r> no luck
[20:15] <malwar3hun73r> same error
[20:15] <malwar3hun73r> mount: /dev/loop1: can't read superblock
[20:16] <TBotNik> Anyone have an answer for my MySQL problem?
[20:16] <omarp> I got the prerequisites done : https://github.com/NVIDIA/nvidia-docker/wiki/Installation-(version-2.0)#prerequisites
[20:17] <ikonia> omarp: right, but you can't start it
[20:17] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: Could you please repeat your question?
[20:17] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: Having issues with MySQL! Will not start!  When I run "service mysql start" I get the error "start: Job failed to start"! I ran some recovery BASH scripts I had from before and was, when running the cmd "mysqld -u root -p --skip-grant-options" getting the error: "mysql error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'" but after running the scripts now getting the error:
[20:17] <TBotNik>  "180508 13:51:37 [Warning] Ignoring user change to 'root' because the user was set to 'mysql' earlier on the command line"!
[20:18] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: So then ran the cmd: "mysqld -u mysql -p --skip-grant-options" it says it started and gives a process number, but running "ps -A | grep mysql" or "ps -A | grep mysqld" nothing shows. and even running "ps -A | grep procnumber" shows no process.  What do I need to fix this?
[20:18] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: what version of Ubuntu
[20:18] <TBotNik> 14.04 lts
[20:19] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: odd, are you specifying /dev/loop0 in the command or /dev/loop1 ?
[20:19] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: in testdisk pressing "p" over the partition should list the files
[20:19] <pragmaticenigma> What was the last change made to MySQL before it stopped working? System update, config change, something else?
[20:19] <malwar3hun73r> neither
[20:19] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: What was the last change made to MySQL before it stopped working? System update, config change, something else?
[20:19] <Flavio> ciao
[20:20] <TBotNik> I install "seopanel"
[20:20] <pragmaticenigma> !it | Guest85319
[20:20] <malwar3hun73r> EriC^^, i'm just doing "sudo mount -o ro,offset=410112 /media/sf_VBoxShare/Images/000035.001 /mnt/test/"
[20:20] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: I installed "seopanel"
[20:20] <impi> hello
[20:21] <impi> how do i install a lower version of a package in apt?
[20:21] <asdf_movies> HELP, i'm not able to connect to the internet in my VM in virtmanager
[20:21] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: is seopanel a package provided through Ubuntu software channels
[20:21] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: try with the loop device
[20:21] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: does it work in testdisk?
[20:21] <ikonia> asdf_movies: you'll need to provide more detail
[20:21] <ikonia> you can't just say HELP
[20:22] <malwar3hun73r> EriC^^, with the command i pasted, i get the error for /dev/loop0
[20:22] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: It installed and was working, then I rebooted and everything went south.  Thought it was part of that install, but then could not login to phpMyAdmin, so started cmd line checking and totally toast!
[20:22] <malwar3hun73r> if i use losetup and then specify /dev/loop0 in the mount command i get the error with /dev/loop1
[20:22] <malwar3hun73r> EriC^^, and, 'p' works within testdisk
[20:23] <malwar3hun73r> i can see the files
[20:23] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: that doesn't answer my question
[20:24] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: I'm checking, had to install php5-curl, which I think is supported, cause in Snaptic Package Manager
[20:24] <asdf_movies> uhh, i am running lubuntu 18 in qemu. i am able to ping the host and vice versa. but it is not able to connect to the internet. the interface used is virbr0
[20:24] <ikonia> define not able to connect
[20:24] <ikonia> explain the network, is the libvirt network setup as a routed or nat network
[20:25] <tgm4883> asdf_movies: can you ping 8.8.8.8
[20:26] <asdf_movies> oh yea. sorry, it's a nat network. the vm is unable to ping any address outside network such as google.com
[20:26] <pragmaticenigma> asdf_movies: please make sure you include the full version number when referencing your Ubuntu/Lubuntu installation. There is no version 18, it is 18.04. It will help identify the fall Ubuntu release when it comes out
[20:26] <ikonia> asdf_movies: what is the gateway of the guest
[20:26] <bn_work> how does one determine the source repo of an installed package given the following output from `dpkg -S /usr/bin/unzip`? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/29jQVpW7/dpkg_-S_usr-bin-unzip.txt
[20:27] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: you can copy them off testdisk
[20:27] <asdf_movies> oh ok. gateway is 192.168.122.1
[20:27] <malwar3hun73r> yeah, i know, but i need to be able to mount th eimage
[20:27] <ikonia> asdf_movies: and what is that ?
[20:27] <bn_work> `Priority`, `Section`, `Origin` doesn't match any of the fields in `/etc/apt/sources.list` or repos in `/etc/apt/sources.list.d/`
[20:28] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: SEO Panel is not a package found in Ubuntu software channels. It was the last thing you did before your MySQL instance failed. You will need to reach out to the developer of SEO Panel for assistance, as I would assume it is their changes that broke your install
[20:28] <asdf_movies> host os is Ubuntu 18.04 and guest os is lubuntu 18.04
[20:28] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: I sent their support and email this AM!
[20:29] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: Checking 4 response now!
[20:29] <bn_work> oops, I mean based on the above output from `apt show unzip`.  `dpkg -S /usr/bin/unzip` shows that it is from the `unzip` package but what repo?
[20:31] <asdf_movies> gateway of guest is 192.168.122.1
[20:31] <ikonia> and what is that ip
[20:32] <pragmaticenigma> TBotNik: Another think you can do is setup another install of Ubuntu 14.04 with MySQL, and install SEO Panel there and see if you end up with the same result.
[20:32] <bn_work> anyone?
[20:32] <ikonia> anyone what ?
[20:33] <ikonia> saying "anyone" is pointless
[20:33] <tgm4883> bn_work: 'apt policy <packagename>'
[20:33] <asdf_movies> tgm4883, no i can't ping 8.8.8.8
[20:33] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | Also, bn_work
[20:34] <pragmaticenigma> bn_work: https://askubuntu.com/a/8567
[20:35] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: Exactly, doing on my server now!  I found errors in their "seopanel.sql" file, which I fixed.  Was going to dump that file and replace on the server install, when I found myself totally dead on MySQL
[20:36] <asdf_movies> correction, in my host os, network ip 192.168.122.0 belongs to virbr0 and in guest os the same ip belongs to ens2 interfaces respectively
[20:37] <ikonia> hljca
[20:37] <ikonia> you can't have the same ip
[20:37] <ikonia> what is the device that gateway device is attached to
[20:38] <asdf_movies> i guess the gateway is my host device, that would be interface virbr0
[20:38] <ikonia> don't guess
[20:38] <bn_work> tgm4883: thanks!
[20:38] <ikonia> check
[20:39] <asdf_movies> affirmative. it is the host device
[20:39] <ikonia> so what error do you get if you try to connect to an internet resource from the guest
[20:39] <bn_work> pragmaticenigma: thanks, started google searching after I had asked the question.  it seemed like a fairly easy enough task but after reading through 3-4 man pages of apt commands it wasn't obvious
[20:40] <bn_work> asdf_movies: did you create the asdf movies? :)
[20:40] <pragmaticenigma> !ot | bn_work
[20:40] <bn_work> tgm4883: would have never guessed policy, that will be a hard one to remember
[20:41] <tgm4883> bn_work: "man apt", but generally you shouldn't need to worry about where packages are from
[20:41] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: maybe try restarting and start from a fresh losetup -f?
[20:42] <asdf_movies> ikonia. it's just stuck on loading.
[20:42] <ikonia> asdf_movies: explain, what are you doing ?
[20:42] <malwar3hun73r> EriC^^, ok
[20:42] <dbugger> Hi everyone
[20:43] <dbugger> I got a weird issue. I have "Workspace Grid" installed but I keep getting the same linear workspace system I had before.
[20:43] <dbugger> Why could that be?
[20:43] <malwar3hun73r> EriC^^, losetup -f shows /dev/loop0, but same errors
[20:44] <bn_work> tgm4883:  `man apt` doesn't actually have anything about `policy` (since it presumably invokes `apt-cache` in the backend I guess),  `man apt-cache` does though :)  only reason I'm trying to figure this out is because I am being forced to work in a stripped down docker ubuntu image that has most sources removed
[20:45] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: does it still mention loop1?
[20:45] <asdf_movies> i just logged in to my vm through virtmanager and tried to access the internet, which failed. i have two vm's 1) lubuntu 18.04 and 2) windows 8.1   both aren't able to connect to any internet website
[20:45] <andras> bn_work: hi! what is your exact problem?
[20:45] <TBotNik> pragmaticenigma: I think they're in the UK or Europe, so no response yet!
[20:47] <ikonia> asdf_movies: so you're opening them websites in a browser on the guest ?
[20:47] <asdf_movies> yes
[20:47] <andras> bn_work: if you have problem with apt, try to use apt-get while building your docker image (it works for me)
[20:48] <bn_work> andras:  tgm4883 already resolved it for me, I was just giving tgm context :)
[20:48] <ikonia> asdf_movies: ok, so remove the browser, try some basics, do an nslookup of google.com from the guest, does that work
[20:51] <Guest87849> Looking for a way to make data history sheet for Blood Pressure. Haven't used this op sys. where can I find a template that would work? Just need 6 or 7 collums.
[20:51] <asdf_movies> oh, it worked
[20:51] <malwar3hun73r> EriC^^, if i try to mount from /dev/loop0 after losetup, yes
[20:53] <slawek> Hi.
[20:53] <slawek> Kanal ubuntupl?
[20:53] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: you could try to bruteforce the location
[20:53] <Fuchs> slawek: /join #ubuntu-pl
[20:55] <asdf_movies> that's strange because ping doesn't provide any output
[20:55] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: for i in {0..600000}; do sudo mount -o ro,offset=$(($i * 512 )) /path/to/image /mnt 2>/dev/null && echo offset worked at sector $i; done
[20:56] <EriC^^> malwar3hun73r: for i in {0..600000}; do sudo mount -o ro,offset=$(($i * 512 )) /path/to/image /mnt 2>/dev/null && echo offset worked at sector $i && break; done
[20:56] <slawek> #ubuntupl
[20:56] <invasor-zim> Hello all. Just did the ui upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04. When it finished and rebooted, no gui, just black screen.
[20:57] <invasor-zim> After getting upset at this happening in 2018, I digged and realized what happened: I used the previous recommended encrypt /home partition, and now ecryptfs is deprecated.
[20:57] <invasor-zim> I don't know how to easily switch to the new full disk encryption or anything.
[20:57] <invasor-zim> gdm3 won't auto start because it can't auth.
[20:58] <ikonia> asdf_movies: what EXACTLY happens when you ping an address
[20:58] <leftyfb> malwar3hun73r: don't use loop0 as I told you. Try: sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 ; sudo losetup /dev/loop7 -f -v /media/sf_Images/000035.001
[20:58] <invasor-zim> When I bash login, it complaints about keys not on keyring.
[20:58] <invasor-zim> Anyone?
[20:58] <ikonia> bash login ?
[20:58] <ikonia> what ??
[20:58] <ikonia> please try to be speicifc
[20:59] <ikonia> and give details
[21:00] <andras> It was quite obvious I think.
[21:00] <ikonia> andras: you're welcome to answer and solve the riddle then
[21:00] <comet23> what is the default login for ubuntu server?
[21:01] <asdf_movies> ikonia, nothing. literally nothing. not even a Destination Host Unreachable. the cursor is just stuck in the next line.
[21:01] <leftyfb> comet23: the one you setup at install
[21:01] <invasor-zim> ikonia: when I try to login at the terminal, this is the error:
[21:01] <leftyfb> comet23: there is no "default login"
[21:01] <comet23> i haven't though
[21:01] <invasor-zim> [   53.487117] Could not find key with description: [xxx] [   53.487144] process_request_key_err: No key [   53.487145] Could not find valid key in user session keyring for sig specified in mount option: [xxx]
[21:01] <ikonia> asdf_movies: leave it, see if it times out
[21:01] <ikonia> asdf_movies: do you have a firewall running on the guest
[21:01] <andras> ikonia: it looks like he is not able to unlock his home folder
[21:01] <comet23> i installed the ubuntu server raspberry pi image
[21:01] <invasor-zim> [xxx] edited out
[21:01] <leftyfb> comet23: if you installed ubuntu server from an iso downloaded from ubuntu.com, then you or someone or a preseed file specified a username and password.
[21:01] <ikonia> andras: it's clear the host is forwarding some requests, such as the dns lookup
[21:02] <asdf_movies> on pressing ctrl+c it shows number of number of packets transfered with 100% loss
[21:02] <leftyfb> comet23: then go to #raspberrypi since that's not an official install of ubuntu
[21:02] <ikonia> andras: certainly does now with the extra output
[21:02] <jpleau> Question: My gnome sessions runs on vt2, and vt1 has a login screen from GDM. Both are running at the same time... is that normal?
[21:02] <leftyfb> comet23: also, try ubuntu/ubuntu or pi/raspberry
[21:02] <comet23> thank you
[21:02] <invasor-zim> gdm3 never loads on boot... if I manually try to start it, it asks for authentication... it then loads... I need it to auto start on boot because that's normal behavior. It can't because of ecryptfs deprecating on 18.04
[21:02] <comet23> i see what i forgot to do, i have to setup a username and password manually
[21:02] <comet23> i have to go into my sd card and edit some files
[21:03] <leftyfb> comet23: that's not true ... at least not the last time I tried ubuntu server on the pi
[21:03] <comet23> https://medium.com/a-swift-misadventure/how-to-setup-your-raspberry-pi-2-3-with-ubuntu-16-04-without-cables-headlessly-9e3eaad32c01
[21:03] <leftyfb> comet23: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi#Username.2FPassword
[21:03] <comet23> according to that it is
[21:04] <nacc> jpleau: are you on 18.04?
[21:04] <jpleau> nacc: yes
[21:04] <asdf_movies> ikonia, no firewall
[21:04] <ikonia> asdf_movies: lets see if it times out
[21:05] <ikonia> asdf_movies: no output is far from the norm, and I can only think of a few reasons to get that
[21:05] <ikonia> asdf_movies: on the host are you running any sort of port forwarding ?
[21:05] <asdf_movies> ikonia, ok. the browser has timed out by the way
[21:05] <comet23> leftyfb: thank you so much :D
[21:05] <comet23> i got in
[21:06] <asdf_movies> no port forwarding. atleast i haven't enabled any, explicitly. is there a way to check if that is enabled?
[21:06] <leftyfb> comet23: thank whoever wrote the documentation that was found by googling "raspberry pi ubuntu"
[21:07] <comet23> thank you for telling me what you googled too
[21:07] <comet23> now i know what to google for :D
[21:08] <nacc> jpleau: then yes
[21:08] <jpleau> nacc: Strange, do you know the reasoning behind it?
[21:09] <jpleau> nacc: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=747339 found this, will look at it, thanks :)
[21:12] <asdf_movies> i have very little idea of what more information must i give to help with this situation. please let me know what else must i do. sorry for the inconvenience
[21:12] <tnss> hey
[21:12] <tnss> anyone having problems with Steam in 18.04
[21:13] <asdf_movies> tnss, describe your problem. others will be able to help you out better that way
[21:21] <asdf_movies> ikonia. i have to get some sleep now. good bye. it's 3 am here
[21:32] <sonicwind> So I just learned about debconf and debconf-show ... I'm curious though why debconf-show doesn't show any results for xserver-xorg, xorg and compiz. It showed them for lightdm. Anyone know? I'm still on 16.04.
[21:37] <Mateja> Is this an ip script? http://www.thedubber.altervista.org/ip/
[21:40] <|Night|> hey have ubuntu detrusted digicert? i keep getting root ca error on wget
[21:40] <|Night|> "certificate, issued by ‘CN=DigiCert SHA2 Secure Server CA,O=DigiCert Inc,C=US’:
[21:40] <|Night|> Unable to locally verify the issuer's authority.
[21:40] <|Night|> To connect to plex.tv insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'."
[21:44] <badsekter> no more unity in the new ubuntu?
[21:45] <sonicwind> nope, you can add it though
[21:45] <blip99> hi all. I can get the date/time that packages were installed from dpkg.log, but how can I use that info to find out when I upgraded my ubuntu system? (to 18.04).  IS there something specific to look for
[21:45] <badsekter> what is the default DM? gnome 3?
[21:46] <sm0rux> Where can I read about snap? I guess I have to set it up in some way as I use Swedish localization and get a lot of extra folder in ~ as soon as I try to install a snap package.
[21:46] <sonicwind> gdm
[21:46] <badsekter> sonicwind: i mean DE, sorry... gnome 3?
[21:47] <sonicwind> yes... with some customization. Ubuntu has its own dock.
[21:48] <omarp> ikonia: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VzhPfcTD2F/  , docker.service: Service has more than one ExecStart, I edited file /etc/systemd/system/docker.service.d/override.conf
[21:49] <omarp> ikonia: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CxPcBnzSrg/
[21:57] <nacc> sm0rux: see #snappy
[21:57] <sm0rux> nacc: Thanks!
[21:57] <nacc> omarp: why are there two ExecStart lines? that's a syntax error
[21:57] <nacc> sm0rux: np
[22:19] <omarp> nacc: docker.service has more than one ExecStart= setting, which is only allowed for Type=oneshot services. Refusing. please see: https://gist.github.com/gyliu513/db71915dc475c183aa94dc1f184a113f
[22:24] <azdacha> hi guys, i've an issue with NPM where it installs webpack-dev-server unproperly ; anyone has this issue as well ?
[22:36] <Battle> hello all, so i'm trying to setup a little website or two using ispconfig (hopefully someone is familiar with this?), i installed it, few errors, fixed those, everything was basicallly working fine.. and I wanted all to be prety secure, so i started researching what are the 'normal' things to do to secure a web server e.t.c. i found a few websites that scan yourwebsite for any obvious signs of weaknesses like and things that 
[22:37] <Battle> I followed some guides, and made some changes, nothing too heavy..things like enabling SSL with better ciphers? and removing version from visibility, things like that
[22:37] <xamithan> Is that a question?
[22:37] <Battle> no im explaining, question is coming XD
[22:38] <Battle> all was fine and working, however the following day, i tried to access the website, and the main website was fine, however going to the ISPConfig contrl panel, triggers this warning about the SSL being insecure
[22:38] <Battle> I've tried a ton of things including re-creating the SSL cert, but it refuses to stop telling me its "invalid" and thus insecure..
[22:39] <Battle> chrome literally wont allow me to go forward...but firefox lets me accept the risk and proceed... I found that "Common Name mismatch"  was showing apparently, so i fixed that, but still same issue
[22:39] <xamithan> You sure it just isn't saying it is insecure because it is self-signed ?
[22:40] <Battle> it did say this initally (first time I went tot he site) and it did specfically state, self signed being the reason
[22:40] <Battle> however, now its an entirely different message, ill get a screenshot 1 sec
[22:40] <xamithan> I'd throw certbot and letsencrypt on it with a real cert before doing anything else,  but thats just me.
[22:41] <xamithan> No reason not to have one,  they are free
[22:41] <Jordan_U_> Battle: Is there a message about HSTS? Is your site using HSTS?
[22:42] <Battle> http://prntscr.com/jfhmq0
[22:42] <Battle> yes Jordan_U, thats exactly it
[22:42] <Battle> it tells me that its using that, which was fine yesterday too....but suddenly its not today? XD
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Battle: Because it's likely that your control panel is using a self signed certificate, where the rest or your website is using a letsencrypt certificate which is actually associated with a trusted root certificate.
[22:43] <Battle> oh I see
[22:43] <Battle> so if I were to create a letsencrypt cert for ISPConfig, that should solve it?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Battle: I belive it would need to use the same certificate used for the rest of the domain, though possibly you could just make the certificate used on your public site associated with just bob.com and not any subdomains, so that it doesn't encompass your ispconfig.bob.com subdomain you're using for ISPconfig. (I've never used ISPconfig, so I don't know if you access it by using a different subdomain).
[22:46] <Battle> its using a different port
[22:46] <Battle> but same identical domain as the main website
[22:46] <xamithan> so use the same cert
[22:46] <Battle> www.bob.com and www.bob.com:8080
[22:46] <Battle> oh i didnt know i could do that, so literally just copy the files XD
[22:47] <xamithan> or symlink it.  I wouldn't use multile files because it has to renew every 60-90 days or so
[22:47] <Jordan_U> Battle: The problem is that by using HSTS you're telling every browser that visits your website: "Hey, I am a security concious website and I'm never going to not use https with a valid certificate. If you ever visite my site again and there isn't a valid certificate, don't even think about letting the user access the page because it's definitely not really us."
[22:47] <Battle> oh I seeeee
[22:47] <Battle> would you suggest disabling hths?
[22:47] <Battle> HSTS*
[22:48] <Jordan_U> Battle: Firefox probably is allowing you to continue with an invalid / self signed certificate because you haven't visited your public facing website with Firefox before.
[22:48] <blackflow> plus all subsequent requests are always https even if you don't specify it.
[22:48] <Battle> It was one of many recommendations, so i figured i should do it... but if its like super overkill ?
[22:48] <blackflow> no, HSTS is good.
[22:49] <Battle> okay, so its beter to just fix it , alright
[22:49] <Battle> thanks ill give this a go XD
[22:49] <Jordan_U> Battle: I would recommend that you make sure that the certificate for your public website doesn't encompass the subdomain you're using for ISPconfig. I'm guessing that right now you're using a wildcard certificate that applies to all *.bob.com subdomains.
[22:49] <xamithan> It uses a different port, same domain
[22:50] <Jordan_U> Battle: Or if it does encompass ISPconfig, make sure that ISPconfig is using a valid certificate associated with a trusted root. I have no idea how hard that would be and since I know nothing about ISPconfig it's possible that doing it wrong could make you accidentally vulnerable to some other security issue, so do your homework before making any change.
[22:50] <Battle> Jordan_U I was using a specific www.bob.com
[22:50] <Battle> cert originally
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Battle: I need to leave now unfortunately.
[22:51] <Battle> after the mismatch errors , i read about wildcard support, so i tried that..., it didn solve the issue
[22:51] <Battle> so i reverted it to: bob.com
[22:51] <Battle> and no problem Jordan_U thanks :)
[23:01] <adalbert>  Hi, after upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 my named server keeps spitting out : resolver priming query complete, - to the syslog. Any idea what's causing this ?
[23:02] <Battle> okay that appears to have resolved it
[23:02] <Battle> no logner have the HTST message/untrusted cert, however, it's super slow
[23:02] <Battle> like 5-6 seconds of page loading before it loads...o.O
[23:04] <aloo_shu> I'm trying to support somebody with ubuntustudio 18.04, until now, when he started jack through qjackctl, the pulse-jack bridge came up automatically, i.e pulse kept running, loaded the Jack Sink and -Source - modules, which became visible in jack and connected to system capture and playback. Now it seems like the bridge is missing, the user claims not having changed anything, so it could have been an update. anyhow, how to fire up the bridge man…
[23:04] <aloo_shu> …ually,or how to get a good config back?
[23:05] <Battle> hmmm speed issue seems to be isolcated to chrome, so the websever appears fixed and fine
[23:05] <Battle> thanks guys :D
[23:10] <rocketeer> How can I run a snap package as root? I'm looking to get spotify to change the directory it stores downloaded songs to to an external drive, but that for some reason requires it to have superuser privileges
[23:11] <rocketeer> I get the following error when I try "sudo spotify" or "gksudo spotify":  No protocol specified  (spotify:5466): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[23:14] <Skaface82> dont run it as root, change the permissions of the directory you wish to save to
[23:14] <sonicwind> I don't know if its the same issue rocketeer, but I got some stuff to work like that with snaps by installing with the --classic confinement
[23:15] <sonicwind> so sudo snap install --classic vlc    for example
[23:15] <rocketeer> I'm trying to save to an external hard drive, and the only way to get there via the spotify file selection dialogue is to go via /media/username/drive
[23:16] <rocketeer> Let me try the classic install
[23:16] <rocketeer> snap spotify is already installed
[23:16] <sonicwind> it is supposed to loosen up the restrictions in saving
[23:17] <sonicwind> I think you need to uninstall and reinstall to try it then
[23:17] <rocketeer> ah that makes sense
[23:19] <sonicwind> I had the same problem with vlc and that worked for me
[23:19] <Skaface82> can you save anything to your external drive as your regular user?
[23:19] <Skaface82> copy files to it?
[23:20] <case`> rocketeer: try chown (spotify-dir) user
[23:21] <case`> or as Skaface82 points out.. check write permissions of ext drive
[23:23] <Skaface82> especially if its a windows formatted drive, youll need to change the owner of the files in the mount options in fstab
[23:23] <Skaface82> maybe theres an easier way to do it in ubuntu, but thats how ive always done it
[23:25] <rocketeer> Skaface82: It's a windows formatted drive, but I can save to it normally
[23:25] <rocketeer> I have no problems telling non-root transmission to save there
[23:25] <Skaface82> did you create the spotify director in windows?
[23:25] <Skaface82> directory
[23:25] <sonicwind> did you try classic confinement?
[23:25] <Skaface82> ok cool
[23:26] <case`> rocketeer: what are permissions of spotify dir?
[23:26] <case`> ownership*
[23:26] <rocketeer> The directory I'm trying to save to or the permissions of the directory spotify the application is in?
[23:26] <rocketeer> My user is the owner of the directory I'm trying to save things to
[23:26] <case`> the spotify dir
[23:29] <rocketeer> It seems that /snap/bin/spotify belongs to root
[23:31] <case`> chown the dir to your user "sudo chown /snap/bin/spotify yourusername" that should give you permissions
[23:32] <xirg> hello
[23:33] <case`> hello xirg
[23:34] <ubuntunoob> Hi everyone. First time here. I'm a noob ubuntu user and somehow i just broke up my ubuntu installation.. I had dual boot win10 + ubuntu 16.04. I tryed a couple of commands to upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04 and now I can't get ubuntu to start. it just boots to a black screen with a stucked cli cursor at the upper left corner. Can someone point me in the right direction to try to recover my ubuntu partition?
[23:35] <xamithan> You probably just need to reinstall your video drivers ubuntunoob
[23:35] <xamithan> !nomodeset
[23:35] <xamithan> Try that then install them
[23:35] <ubuntunoob> Hi xamithan, thanks for your reply.
[23:36] <ubuntunoob> I tryed <e> on grub screen and replaced quiet splash for no splash
[23:36] <ubuntunoob> and even tryed that nomodese
[23:36] <ubuntunoob> and still cant get it to boot
[23:37] <case`> ubuntunoob, you could try reinstalling grub, or even run update grub
[23:38] <sonicwind> ubuntunoob - this "canonical" thread on askubuntu might help with ideas - https://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[23:38] <xamithan> If you can't ctrl + alt + f2 and get a tty then reinstall grub would be best
[23:39] <case`> if you have a spare disk or usb key, a small iso boot repair can be created which will purge your grub config then reinstall
[23:39] <ubuntunoob> i already tryed the boot repair. but will try once more.. maybe i didnt get it right
[23:40] <ubuntunoob> I appreciate you all for the input. I'll check the link too
[23:40] <case`> very handy to have a boot repair disk
[23:40] <xamithan> Personally I've never had that boot repair program work
[23:41] <RoadRunner> xamithan: Want to switch video card from Nvidia to AMD on an existing Xubuntu 16.04 install. This is the driver that's currently installed: https://imgur.com/a/EClJjtn
[23:41] <RoadRunner>  Do I need to uninstal this nvidia driver first before swaping cards or will xubuntu do the driver switch automaticaly on next reboot? If need to uninstall manually, then how?
[23:41] <case`> has come to my rescue a few times
[23:43] <case`> i would personally uninstall current driver first, driver manager can aid with uninstall through gui
[23:45] <linux_noobian> Ubuntu says I don't have enough free space to restore a deleted file. Where does it store deleted files if it's not on my main drive?
[23:47] <RoadRunner> my concern is not to end up with a black screen if I uninstall nvidia driver manually
[23:47] <case`> noobian: where are you trying to restore file from?
[23:48] <case`> Roadrunnner: if you use a driver manager gui, there should be an option to revert driver
[23:50] <RoadRunner> case`: i run xubuntu 16.04; does it have a driver manager?
[23:50] <linux_noobian> case`: C: drive trash to C: drive
[23:52] <aloo_shu> ubuntustudio 18.04 : if jack is started, pulse should load Jack Source and Jack Sink modules automatically to provide desktop applications a bridge into the jack audio connection kit and hence alsa. How to get that behaviour back if for reasons unknown (pkg upgrade, e.g), it is broken and the pulse-jack bridge doesn't appear in jack anymore?
[23:52] <case`> RoadRunner: sry.. gui is "additional drivers" system settings/hardware
[23:53] <case`> noobian, can you see file in trashcan?
[23:54] <linux_noobian> case`: yes, i see it in the trashcan
[23:55] <linux_noobian> it's taking up most of the space on my SSD, 74gb. but i can't restore it to its original location 'not enough space'
[23:55] <Skaface82> does ubuntu automatically run pulse-jack bridge?
[23:56] <aloo_shu> Skaface82: I think it should, yes
[23:56] <case`> check file properties.. if is too large try compressing it archive manager
[23:56] <aloo_shu> probably in the jack pkg
[23:56] <Skaface82> aloo_shu: cause i know with debian the pulse-jack stuff wasnt supported and had to manually run commands
[23:56] <aloo_shu> using jack and pulse together is supposed to work ootb in ubuntusudio
[23:56] <Skaface82> not sure about ubuntu though
[23:56] <RoadRunner> case`: that is exactly where my paste from above came from; but regardless of whether I remove a driver through gui or terminal (sudo apt remove nvidia*) if the screen goes black - I will not be able to revert
[23:56] <Skaface82> ohh ok
[23:57] <aloo_shu> it worked and works generally, but broke for someone I'm trying to assist, Skaface82
[23:57] <SlidingHorn> aloo_shu: I'm right here you know.... xD
[23:58] <aloo_shu> Skaface82: and I am on an android tablet and cannot look up documentation, Skaface82
[23:58] <aloo_shu> hi SlidingHorn. :)
[23:58] <RoadRunner> case`: and more importantly: For xubuntu to install the AMD driver, does the comp need to have an internet connection or is the driver already present in some kernel "extras" package that's already on the hard drive?
[23:58] <aloo_shu> I'm trying to bring it up every 1/2 hr or s
[23:58] <SlidingHorn> aloo_shu: my understanding is that the next version of UbuntuStudio-controls is going to have most of this worked out, and cadence seems to work perfectly, so I'm all set for now
[23:59] <aloo_shu> SlidingHorn: got cadence now?
[23:59] <case`> RoadRunner:Is there not an option to revert back to the basic X driver before the nvidia was installed? Not sure of the name begins with n
[23:59] <SlidingHorn> aloo_shu: yes...that and Catia solved my problem immediately
[23:59] <aloo_shu> cool