| OvenWerks | Maybe I should take out the functionallity Cadence covers and just add the extras. | 00:12 |
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| BionicMac | OvenWerks: Leave the US-controls as is please. =) | 02:31 |
| ErichEickmeyer | BionicMac: what do you mean? | 02:33 |
| BionicMac | ErichEickmeyer: I was just kidding around in responding to OvenWerks comment: OvenWerks | Maybe I should take out the functionallity Cadence covers and just add the extras. | 02:35 |
| BionicMac | Because I prefer US over KXstudio in general. | 02:36 |
| BionicMac | I had a few problems with the kx suite of tools not nehaving with my jack connections. I removed them all. | 02:37 |
| BionicMac | s/nehaving/behaving/ | 02:37 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Ah. Well, there's some great stuff coming down the pike for -controls: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2018-April/008591.html | 02:37 |
| BionicMac | I see! That is what I am referring to. DO not remove functionality becaue of Cadence/Catia. There are folks like me that need the functionality of US-controls. =) | 02:38 |
| BionicMac | ErichEickmeyer: ok thanks for the link. | 02:38 |
| ErichEickmeyer | np | 02:38 |
| ErichEickmeyer | We're just trying to figure out what would be a decent replacement for Patchage since it's unmaintained. Carla, though it's a plugin host, seems to be the most logical solution since it has a really nice patchbay. | 02:39 |
| ErichEickmeyer | I don't think we'd ever consider remove functionality from -controls. | 02:40 |
| ErichEickmeyer | *removing | 02:41 |
| BionicMac | I actually dig the interfaces of the Cadence suite. Easy on the eye, and it works, except for 2 things: | 02:41 |
| BionicMac | 1) It doesn't behave with my jack connectiosns and it has to do with 'ladishd' | 02:41 |
| BionicMac | I will have my connectiosn setup nice and pretty and bam, all my connections are magcially re-arranged by the Cadence suite. Very bad deal, I've had it almost blow my speaker sout making those auto-connections. | 02:42 |
| ErichEickmeyer | 1) - definitely a shortcoming of Ladish. Even Gladish has the same problem (Claudia is the Ladish frontend, not Catia). | 02:42 |
| BionicMac | right, I just think of zcadence because that is where I watch my connections of course, ladishd was the actual culprit, correct. | 02:43 |
| BionicMac | 2) I do *not* like having kxstudio repos on my system because I have to set priorities or it tries to upgrade apps all the time. | 02:44 |
| ErichEickmeyer | Yeah. I don't even bother with Claudia or Ladish. Messes things up for me. | 02:44 |
| ErichEickmeyer | 2) THIS I can agree with! | 02:44 |
| BionicMac | speaking of 2) .. I always know that Ubuntustudio will be nice to my system as a whole in that regard. | 02:44 |
| BionicMac | I use non-mixer for my plugin host. | 02:50 |
| BionicMac | I wish the non-* suite was in UbuntuStudio. | 02:51 |
| BionicMac | That was the only reason I installed KXStudio repos in the first place. | 02:51 |
| BionicMac | I've been studying how to build packages the Ubuntu-way. I think I may build the non-* packages for Ubuntu and put them on Launchpad. | 02:53 |
| BionicMac | Hello SlidingHorn | 02:54 |
| ErichEickmeyer | BionicMac: That would be great. I'm learning packaging myself. Nobody is upgrading the Calf plugins to the latest version, and it's been out since November. Might have to do it myself. | 03:15 |
| OvenWerks | the non-stuff is not hard to build... last time I tried it went well. Used to be a lot of people used NTK for GUI libs too. | 03:43 |
| BionicMac | only thing I have issue with non apps is the nano-font-size. they don't follow my system-wide fonts in Kde. I can literally barely read the text. I assume it has something to with NTK. | 04:04 |
| OvenWerks | Hmm, I hadn't noticed but then, my screens are relatively low rez | 04:06 |
| OvenWerks | FLTK seems to be fine (NTK is built on FLTK) | 04:06 |
| BionicMac | my displa is high-res but I scale my desktop and set system-wide fonts that non doesn't honor. | 04:06 |
| OvenWerks | Thinking about that a bit more, it seems to me that I ended up with a dual rezolution commandline switch in mcpdisp (FLTK) so you are probably right. | 04:10 |
| BionicMac | I read an article about font size issues with FLTK (for another app) and the person changed the source code to overcome it. | 04:12 |
| BionicMac | and here it is: https://www.oyranos.org/2016/01/high-dpi-with-fltk/index.html | 04:14 |
| OvenWerks | I wonder is AVTK is any better. | 04:14 |
| BionicMac | on another topic, I installed Clementine and am really diggin' it. So nice. | 04:17 |
| OvenWerks | He seems to have forgottne how old FLTK (AKA forms) really is. | 04:18 |
| OvenWerks | it is from the original Motif era | 04:19 |
| BionicMac | I've never been able to settle on the bloaty-type music players on linux. I always go back to mplayer cli. It plays everything and I like it. But it is handy having a power-gui music player. Clementine is doing it for me personally. VLC is pretty dang nice too. | 04:19 |
| BionicMac | Oh, motif era is old school. | 04:19 |
| OvenWerks | I like VLC except it never stops once started. | 04:20 |
| Unit193 | "never stops"? | 04:20 |
| cfhowlett | ??? | 04:20 |
| BionicMac | OvenWerks: Never stops? I'm not ctching your meaning. | 04:20 |
| BionicMac | catching* | 04:20 |
| Unit193 | Eg, I had this: vlc -f --audio-visual visual --effect-list spectrum --run-time 21600 --play-and-exit http://peridot.streamguys.com:5550/live | 04:20 |
| BionicMac | Unit193: nice line... let me try that | 04:21 |
| Unit193 | You're gonna want to adjust some of that at least. | 04:21 |
| cfhowlett | killed it with a single click ... | 04:21 |
| BionicMac | cfhowlett: vlc never gives me issues either | 04:22 |
| BionicMac | Unit193: That line was wicked cool. worked perfect "as-is" | 04:23 |
| Unit193 | Plays for that duration and quits. | 04:24 |
| OvenWerks | Ya that is what I mean. if you use context menu from filemanager to play a video with VLC, the video ends but VLC stays in memory | 04:25 |
| BionicMac | Nice, shift+A toggles audio output source | 04:27 |
| OvenWerks | The reason people use FLTK in audio things like plugins and plugin hosts is because the whole thing ends up in the binary un like QT/gtk | 04:27 |
| BionicMac | The it has to be way to correct the fonts, surely? | 04:27 |
| OvenWerks | you pointed to it. | 04:28 |
| OvenWerks | the dev has to detect and adjust. | 04:28 |
| BionicMac | The that article gives the answer. | 04:29 |
| BionicMac | Then* | 04:29 |
| Unit193 | OvenWerks: ...There's an option in the file menu to quit. | 04:29 |
| Unit193 | "Quit after playback" | 04:29 |
| OvenWerks | I'll remember that... beats killall stuff | 04:30 |
| Unit193 | ..There's also the 'X' where you don't have to killall.. | 04:30 |
| OvenWerks | the window decoration X doesn't seem to be that X | 04:31 |
| OvenWerks | window goes away... vlc is still around | 04:32 |
| BionicMac | OvenWerks: ah, ok, I see what you mean now. | 04:33 |
| OvenWerks | huh, can't even test it right now, I haven't installed it in 18.04 yet :) | 04:33 |
| OvenWerks | BionicMac: the reason I noticed it was that if VLC didn't like a video and I went to trysome other player... VLC was blocking the other player. | 04:35 |
| OvenWerks | kill vlc and the other player would work. | 04:35 |
| OvenWerks | Anyway, I am off till tomorrow... g'nite | 04:37 |
| BionicMac | nite | 04:39 |
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