[06:48] <kan> hi
[06:49] <kan> legit question: should I go with xubuntu or ubuntu?
[06:49] <munki> kan: depends on what you like the most. I prefer xubuntu - because xfce is more lightweight than unity
[06:50] <kan> munki: but ubuntu 18.04 is gnome based innit?
[06:50] <munki> ye
[06:50] <munki> gnome / unity - potato potato
[06:51] <kan> would i face any problems with xubuntu?
[06:51] <kan> like things breaking?
[06:51] <munki> not more than ubuntu ^^
[06:52] <munki> try it! you can always switch
[06:52] <kan> on the fly
[06:52] <munki> you can install both. but i would prefer reinstalling.
[06:52] <kan> k
[07:42] <walt> One laptop two installs. Kub 14.04 and Xub 18.04.  If Kub owns grub Xub boots fine.  If Xub owns grub then Xub boots in low res mode
[07:42] <walt> Not a big deal but want to know why
[07:44] <pmjdebru1jn> did you compare grub configs
[07:44] <pmjdebru1jn> also, considering 14.04 and 18.04, who "owns" grub also means a very different grub version should be active
[07:45] <walt> haven't looked into it.  I think its the same grub version. But different configs.  Lucked into the solution to the low res xubuntu.  Glad I did.
[07:46] <pmjdebru1jn> 14.04 and 18.04 doesn't have the same grub version
[07:46] <pmjdebru1jn> don't
[07:46] <pmjdebru1jn> walt: what the solution for that then?
[07:47] <walt> OK I accept that.  Will look into when I boot the machine again.
[07:47] <pmjdebru1jn> but I'm curious, what did you need to change for low res?
[07:47] <walt> My solution is to let 14.04 own grub.  I set the xubuntu as the default OS.  Runs fine.
[07:48] <walt> The laptop had the dreaded sis-graphics.
[07:48] <walt> The live cD and install ran at 1024x768 but after that it booted into 640 and was stuck there.  Nothing would help.
[07:49] <walt> Then I updated the other partition with Kubuntu 14.04.  It took grub back and then Xub booted at 1024.  Fantastic but no clue why.
[07:50] <pmjdebru1jn> huh SiS
[07:50] <well_laid_lawn> check the grub config for what resolution it sets - that might be what is influencing things
[07:50] <walt> I posted a question on askubuntu.  Based on this chat I will update it when I check the grub versions.
[07:50] <walt> OK will do.  Maybe during the install of xub it set a low resolution. Thanks all
[07:51] <walt> Yes. "huh" is far too kind! :)
[07:55] <walt> Thanks all.  Heading out.
[08:13] <cabi> hi, cant figure out how to fix some windows behavior, with dual monitor setup some windows open up on primary monitor and others (preferences and settings windows) on my second one. some ideas?
[11:08] <tewa> I like being able to manage all the screens myself via Xrandr. How do I completely disable the display manager in xfce4?
[12:06] <xubuntu36d> hello
[21:06] <frad> im tryiung to upgrade to 18.10, but on the shell I get this: A problem occurred during the update. This is usually some sort of
[21:06] <frad> network problem, please check your network connection and retry.
[21:06] <frad> however, i can connect and browse and chet with you guys...
[21:06] <frad> chats, that is
[21:16] <well_laid_lawn> isn't 18.10 5+ months away
[21:17] <genii> Yes. Releases are every 6 months.
[21:18] <genii> frad: PErhaps you mean 18.04 instead ?
[21:18] <frad> lol true
[21:18] <frad> 18.04
[21:18] <Unit193> That makes a little more sense.
[21:18] <frad> from 17.10
[21:22] <frad> can you help me now that the question has been rewritten?
[21:29] <well_laid_lawn> !upgrade
[21:34] <frad> thx!!
[21:35] <Unit193> Depends on how you're trying to upgrade I'd guess.
[21:38] <frad> E:The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-security Release' does not have a Release file.
[21:38] <frad> wht do I do with that?
[21:44] <well_laid_lawn> see if the second post here helps https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2382845
[21:49] <frad> well_laid_lawn, thanks a lot!!!
[21:57] <well_laid_lawn> cheers