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lubot<tsimonq2> Can anyone confirm this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-notifyd/+bug/177030403:13
lynoriantsimonq2, done04:30
lynorianI confirmed it04:33
lubot<tsimonq2> ACK04:37
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/176918412:05
lubot<tsimonq2> This bug also needs confirmation.12:05
lubot<coolpolygons> How does one fix a bug in lubuntu?12:07
lubot<alamo18> @coolpolygons, +112:08
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] lubuntu-lugito created ubuntu/cosmic (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vp1gt13:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic 2fbea84 Julien Lavergne: Add informations about Travis builds13:55
wxl@coolpolygons @alamo18 depends on what you want to fix16:02
wxl@tsimonq2: i made the artful to bionic upgrade while at lfnw. no probs.16:02
wxl@tsimonq2: i DID use do-release-upgrade16:02
wxl@tsimonq2: also OP is on Unity, so i can imagine the chaos it created16:04
lubot<tsimonq2> OK16:18
wxlhow do i get xenial to upgrade to bionic? like the normal way. i know i can do-release-upgrade but users don't expect to do that.17:16
wxlfor artful it just came right up17:16
acheronukwhat do you use to upgrade with on lubuntu?17:18
wxlubuntu-release-upgrader like anyone else17:18
wxlwith artful it just popped right up17:18
lubot<tsimonq2> Xenial -> Bionic isn't enabled until 18.04.117:18
wxloh that's the rub17:18
lubot<tsimonq2> So sudo do-release-upgrade -d17:18
lubot<acheronuk> @tsimonq2, wxl wanted a method without that17:19
lubot<tsimonq2> Also wxl, what's with the support queries here? XD17:19
lubot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk, Dunno.17:19
lubot<tsimonq2> But we shouldn't expect it to work yet.17:19
wxlthese are not support queries but questions related to solving development issues, oh ye who doth eat doodoo17:20
lubot<tsimonq2> XF17:20
lubot<tsimonq2> *XD17:20
wxlanyways i forgot that LTS->LTS isn't supported until .117:21
acheronukyeah, but it's good to test the upgrades before they get turned on!17:22
krytarikwxl: "Lubuntu cdimage - 0.87" - wrt your email, that's ratio though, not share.17:31
wxlkrytarik: simon did point that out17:32
wxlkrytarik: stll, it's close to half17:32
krytarikYes.17:33
wxlto me that seems significant17:33
krytarikYeah, but we should certainly try harder to convince those who do have 64-bit capable machines to actually use 64-bit too - also wrt the security concerns mentioned there.  But RAM usage does seem to be an issue there still.17:35
wxlagreed17:36
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] m4sk1n pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vp1pR18:05
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 9c251f8 Marcin Mikołajczak: Update translation files to current sources...18:05
lyn||ian+1 krytarik 18:20
wxltsimonq2: i triaged https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1769184 per your request19:47
ubot93Launchpad bug 1769184 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "I can't seem to upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04 from 17.10.  It can't calculate changes." [Undecided, Invalid]19:48
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Thank you!19:55
wxl@tsimonq2: suffice it to say in case you didn't notice, i could NOT duplicate19:56
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Ah.19:57
wxl@tsimonq2: and i did test for both xenial and artful. that said, i wouldn't worry about this being an issue for it.19:58
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Alright. Cool.19:58
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks again man!19:58
wxlnp19:59
BionicMacI heard you all don't bite in here. =)20:08
wxlwe don't bite SOME people :)20:09
wxlbtw BionicMac https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/176978120:09
ubot93Launchpad bug 1769781 in calamares (Ubuntu) "calamres crashes with an error message when installing lubuntu-next" [Undecided, Confirmed]20:09
BionicMacJust when I thought it was safe... 20:09
BionicMacwxl: there it is... 20:09
=== BionicMac is now known as CosmicMac
wxlbtw tsimonq2 do you have any clarity on what the issue is with calamares?20:10
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Not yet.20:11
wxl@tsimonq2: well if i can help in some way, let me know. it's kind of Not Cool™20:12
wxlhm surprised it didn't pull in anything from dmesg20:12
wxlCosmicMac: you still have that Lubuntu vm open by chance?20:13
lyn||ianwxl I might as well 20:13
CosmicMacwxl: yes20:13
CosmicMaclooking at dmesg and syslog now20:13
wxllyn||ian CosmicMac could you look at see if there's anything useful/informational in logs? 20:14
wxlthere may be an installer-specific log, too. that i'm actually not sure of20:14
wxlcalamres is still new to me20:14
lynoriansame20:14
CosmicMacIt crashes when the step to format is chosen. I will paste the relevant information on pastebin 20:14
CosmicMacsec...20:14
wxlthe thing i wonder is if it's an issue with the partitioner or with a call to the partitioner if that makes sense20:15
wxlthe thing that i find particularly remarkable is [Errno 30] Read-only file system: 'bash'20:15
wxlCosmicMac: feel free to me too that bug if you haven't already20:16
CosmicMacwxl: OK will do. Finishing lunch and I will be on it like a rat on a cheeto.20:17
wxlCosmicMac: thank you kindly :)20:17
CosmicMacnp sir20:17
lynorianwell dpkg.log in my case is not empty20:17
wxloh well that's interesting20:17
lynorianwxl attach that?20:18
wxlmaybe20:18
wxlthat suggests that the partitioner finished20:18
wxlwhat i'd like to find is proof of that20:18
wxlyou know what i think i'm just going to pull out my vm. i think i still have it20:19
lynorianthis has no parman.log that I can see20:19
wxlif we can't find anything, i can start over, but before launching the installer touch a file and then user file . -newer to see what's changed20:20
wxlactually i might just do that20:20
lynorianI wonder if it is trying to rm read only iso stuff when cleaning up20:21
wxlmaybe20:21
wxlinterestingly when i try to run this again it sees a partition20:21
wxlthe partitioner has done something20:21
wxlok there is ~/.cache/Calamares/Calamares/Calamares.log20:23
wxlhahahahaha20:23
lynorianok I think we need to document where the log files we need are20:25
wxlyep20:25
lynorianand have apport pull in that file for calamares bugs20:25
lubot<tsimonq2> Good point.20:26
* lynorian needs to go shopping still but glad I got that point in20:28
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks!20:29
wxlok so in addition to that there are changes at /var/log/{journal/some-UUID/system.journal,auth.log,kern.log,syslog}20:30
wxljournal's binary20:33
wxlauth is not useful20:33
wxl@tsimonq2: check this out. looks like there is actually a partition being created according to the logs, but when it goes to apparently mount the squashfs, that's where it seems to fail. so that's super weird. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KGhhW8Wctz/20:43
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Huh20:45
CosmicMacwxl: Here are my logs -> https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/swiNPTAcwAHZ7rP21:00
wxlCosmicMac: from what i can tell all of those logs existed before the installer21:01
CosmicMacwxl: I haven't gone through them yet, still finishing lunch. But that is a 'grep -ir calamares /var/log/*' , I will try and upload full logs in a bit. thanks21:01
wxlCosmicMac: i think the Calamares.log i found was the more relevant thing21:02
CosmicMacwxl: Ok , checking21:02
wxl@tsimonq2: might want to me too this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/177050021:03
ubot93Launchpad bug 1770500 in calamares (Ubuntu) "calamares lacks apport per-package hook" [Undecided, New]21:03
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, K21:09
CosmicMacwxl: several logs including Clamares.log -> https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/85zo5WSXNgibQfi  -> Exact link to Calamares.log -> https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/2KDBHPMEGqAYYK221:27
wxlCosmicMac: did you intend to make that bug public security?22:24
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tsimonq2grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr23:15
tsimonq2why23:15
* tsimonq2 finds the existing topic23:16
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tsimonq2wxl: #ubuntu-flavors is now a thing.23:28
lubot<alamo18> O.o23:29
wxlew23:39
wxlis htop really our replacement for lxtask? that's not cool23:39
tsimonq2uhm23:39
tsimonq2no?23:39
tsimonq2htop is just cool23:40
tsimonq2:P23:40
wxlthen what we gonna use/23:40
tsimonq2¯\_(ツ)_/¯23:40
wxloh23:40
wxlqps i guess23:40
tsimonq2ah23:40
tsimonq2yeah23:40
wxlhaving both is kind of meh23:40
wxlwait23:41
wxlit's not flavours?23:41
wxlisn't that racist?23:41
* wxl ducks23:41
tsimonq2uhm23:41
tsimonq2¯\_(ツ)_/¯23:41
tsimonq2:D23:41
CosmicMaclxtask is good for a gui task manager23:42
lyn||ianhonestly I don't like qps and much prefer htop but that is my personal prefrence and I of course love htop so I am quite biased23:49
wxli'm mainly a terminal sort of guy so me, too, but qps is ncie for a gui23:49
CosmicMachtop is the best imho, but havinf poin/cilck lxtask is nice.23:49
CosmicMaci've not tried qps 23:52
wxlooook then23:52
wxlnow go fix the seed @tsimonq2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/176978123:52
ubot93Launchpad bug 1769781 in Ubuntu Seeds "Lubuntu Cosmic missing squashfs-tools, causing Calamares to crash" [Undecided, New]23:52
lyn||ianI have not tried qps in a long time but it is better than I remember it23:52
wxlta da! https://share.riseup.net/#nX5Y5cQvioT-vqhkOqC2AQ23:57
wxl^^ maybe a tweet or blog or something about that workaround for testers might be a good idea23:57
tsimonq2oooh23:58
tsimonq2OK23:58
wxlthe bug has been corrected btw23:58
wxlin case you hadn't noticed23:58
tsimonq2Nah, needs more correcting.23:58
tsimonq2:P23:58

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