 Can anyone confirm this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-notifyd/+bug/1770304
[04:30] <lynorian> tsimonq2, done
[04:33] <lynorian> I confirmed it
 ACK
 wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1769184
 This bug also needs confirmation.
 How does one fix a bug in lubuntu?
 @coolpolygons, +1
[13:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] lubuntu-lugito created ubuntu/cosmic (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vp1gt
[13:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic 2fbea84 Julien Lavergne: Add informations about Travis builds
[16:02] <wxl> @coolpolygons @alamo18 depends on what you want to fix
[16:02] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i made the artful to bionic upgrade while at lfnw. no probs.
[16:02] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i DID use do-release-upgrade
[16:04] <wxl> @tsimonq2: also OP is on Unity, so i can imagine the chaos it created
 OK
[17:16] <wxl> how do i get xenial to upgrade to bionic? like the normal way. i know i can do-release-upgrade but users don't expect to do that.
[17:16] <wxl> for artful it just came right up
[17:18] <acheronuk> what do you use to upgrade with on lubuntu?
[17:18] <wxl> ubuntu-release-upgrader like anyone else
[17:18] <wxl> with artful it just popped right up
 Xenial -> Bionic isn't enabled until 18.04.1
[17:18] <wxl> oh that's the rub
 So sudo do-release-upgrade -d
 @tsimonq2, wxl wanted a method without that
 Also wxl, what's with the support queries here? XD
 @acheronuk, Dunno.
 But we shouldn't expect it to work yet.
[17:20] <wxl> these are not support queries but questions related to solving development issues, oh ye who doth eat doodoo
 XF
 *XD
[17:21] <wxl> anyways i forgot that LTS->LTS isn't supported until .1
[17:22] <acheronuk> yeah, but it's good to test the upgrades before they get turned on!
[17:31] <krytarik> wxl: "Lubuntu cdimage - 0.87" - wrt your email, that's ratio though, not share.
[17:32] <wxl> krytarik: simon did point that out
[17:32] <wxl> krytarik: stll, it's close to half
[17:33] <krytarik> Yes.
[17:33] <wxl> to me that seems significant
[17:35] <krytarik> Yeah, but we should certainly try harder to convince those who do have 64-bit capable machines to actually use 64-bit too - also wrt the security concerns mentioned there.  But RAM usage does seem to be an issue there still.
[17:36] <wxl> agreed
[18:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] m4sk1n pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vp1pR
[18:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 9c251f8 Marcin Mikołajczak: Update translation files to current sources...
[18:20] <lyn||ian> +1 krytarik 
[19:47] <wxl> tsimonq2: i triaged https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1769184 per your request
 @wxl, Thank you!
[19:56] <wxl> @tsimonq2: suffice it to say in case you didn't notice, i could NOT duplicate
 @wxl, Ah.
[19:58] <wxl> @tsimonq2: and i did test for both xenial and artful. that said, i wouldn't worry about this being an issue for it.
 @wxl, Alright. Cool.
 Thanks again man!
[19:59] <wxl> np
[20:08] <BionicMac> I heard you all don't bite in here. =)
[20:09] <wxl> we don't bite SOME people :)
[20:09] <wxl> btw BionicMac https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1769781
[20:09] <BionicMac> Just when I thought it was safe... 
[20:09] <BionicMac> wxl: there it is... 
[20:10] <wxl> btw tsimonq2 do you have any clarity on what the issue is with calamares?
 @wxl, Not yet.
[20:12] <wxl> @tsimonq2: well if i can help in some way, let me know. it's kind of Not Cool™
[20:12] <wxl> hm surprised it didn't pull in anything from dmesg
[20:13] <wxl> CosmicMac: you still have that Lubuntu vm open by chance?
[20:13] <lyn||ian> wxl I might as well 
[20:13] <CosmicMac> wxl: yes
[20:13] <CosmicMac> looking at dmesg and syslog now
[20:14] <wxl> lyn||ian CosmicMac could you look at see if there's anything useful/informational in logs? 
[20:14] <wxl> there may be an installer-specific log, too. that i'm actually not sure of
[20:14] <wxl> calamres is still new to me
[20:14] <lynorian> same
[20:14] <CosmicMac> It crashes when the step to format is chosen. I will paste the relevant information on pastebin 
[20:14] <CosmicMac> sec...
[20:15] <wxl> the thing i wonder is if it's an issue with the partitioner or with a call to the partitioner if that makes sense
[20:15] <wxl> the thing that i find particularly remarkable is [Errno 30] Read-only file system: 'bash'
[20:16] <wxl> CosmicMac: feel free to me too that bug if you haven't already
[20:17] <CosmicMac> wxl: OK will do. Finishing lunch and I will be on it like a rat on a cheeto.
[20:17] <wxl> CosmicMac: thank you kindly :)
[20:17] <CosmicMac> np sir
[20:17] <lynorian> well dpkg.log in my case is not empty
[20:17] <wxl> oh well that's interesting
[20:18] <lynorian> wxl attach that?
[20:18] <wxl> maybe
[20:18] <wxl> that suggests that the partitioner finished
[20:18] <wxl> what i'd like to find is proof of that
[20:19] <wxl> you know what i think i'm just going to pull out my vm. i think i still have it
[20:19] <lynorian> this has no parman.log that I can see
[20:20] <wxl> if we can't find anything, i can start over, but before launching the installer touch a file and then user file . -newer to see what's changed
[20:20] <wxl> actually i might just do that
[20:21] <lynorian> I wonder if it is trying to rm read only iso stuff when cleaning up
[20:21] <wxl> maybe
[20:21] <wxl> interestingly when i try to run this again it sees a partition
[20:21] <wxl> the partitioner has done something
[20:23] <wxl> ok there is ~/.cache/Calamares/Calamares/Calamares.log
[20:23] <wxl> hahahahaha
[20:25] <lynorian> ok I think we need to document where the log files we need are
[20:25] <wxl> yep
[20:25] <lynorian> and have apport pull in that file for calamares bugs
 Good point.
[20:28]  * lynorian needs to go shopping still but glad I got that point in
 Thanks!
[20:30] <wxl> ok so in addition to that there are changes at /var/log/{journal/some-UUID/system.journal,auth.log,kern.log,syslog}
[20:33] <wxl> journal's binary
[20:33] <wxl> auth is not useful
[20:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: check this out. looks like there is actually a partition being created according to the logs, but when it goes to apparently mount the squashfs, that's where it seems to fail. so that's super weird. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KGhhW8Wctz/
 @wxl, Huh
[21:00] <CosmicMac> wxl: Here are my logs -> https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/swiNPTAcwAHZ7rP
[21:01] <wxl> CosmicMac: from what i can tell all of those logs existed before the installer
[21:01] <CosmicMac> wxl: I haven't gone through them yet, still finishing lunch. But that is a 'grep -ir calamares /var/log/*' , I will try and upload full logs in a bit. thanks
[21:02] <wxl> CosmicMac: i think the Calamares.log i found was the more relevant thing
[21:02] <CosmicMac> wxl: Ok , checking
[21:03] <wxl> @tsimonq2: might want to me too this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1770500
 @wxl, K
[21:27] <CosmicMac> wxl: several logs including Clamares.log -> https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/85zo5WSXNgibQfi  -> Exact link to Calamares.log -> https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/2KDBHPMEGqAYYK2
[22:24] <wxl> CosmicMac: did you intend to make that bug public security?
[23:15] <tsimonq2> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[23:15] <tsimonq2> why
[23:16]  * tsimonq2 finds the existing topic
[23:28] <tsimonq2> wxl: #ubuntu-flavors is now a thing.
 O.o
[23:39] <wxl> ew
[23:39] <wxl> is htop really our replacement for lxtask? that's not cool
[23:39] <tsimonq2> uhm
[23:39] <tsimonq2> no?
[23:40] <tsimonq2> htop is just cool
[23:40] <tsimonq2> :P
[23:40] <wxl> then what we gonna use/
[23:40] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[23:40] <wxl> oh
[23:40] <wxl> qps i guess
[23:40] <tsimonq2> ah
[23:40] <tsimonq2> yeah
[23:40] <wxl> having both is kind of meh
[23:41] <wxl> wait
[23:41] <wxl> it's not flavours?
[23:41] <wxl> isn't that racist?
[23:41]  * wxl ducks
[23:41] <tsimonq2> uhm
[23:41] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[23:41] <tsimonq2> :D
[23:42] <CosmicMac> lxtask is good for a gui task manager
[23:49] <lyn||ian> honestly I don't like qps and much prefer htop but that is my personal prefrence and I of course love htop so I am quite biased
[23:49] <wxl> i'm mainly a terminal sort of guy so me, too, but qps is ncie for a gui
[23:49] <CosmicMac> htop is the best imho, but havinf poin/cilck lxtask is nice.
[23:52] <CosmicMac> i've not tried qps 
[23:52] <wxl> ooook then
[23:52] <wxl> now go fix the seed @tsimonq2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1769781
[23:52] <lyn||ian> I have not tried qps in a long time but it is better than I remember it
[23:57] <wxl> ta da! https://share.riseup.net/#nX5Y5cQvioT-vqhkOqC2AQ
[23:57] <wxl> ^^ maybe a tweet or blog or something about that workaround for testers might be a good idea
[23:58] <tsimonq2> oooh
[23:58] <tsimonq2> OK
[23:58] <wxl> the bug has been corrected btw
[23:58] <wxl> in case you hadn't noticed
[23:58] <tsimonq2> Nah, needs more correcting.
[23:58] <tsimonq2> :P