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enkeyzyo08:40
enkeyzjust wanted to say thanks to devs, whose included minimal install in setup of Kubuntu08:40
enkeyzit's awesome08:41
enkeyzno more bloated system after install08:41
ikoniayawn at the fantasy of "bloat"08:45
ikoniautter nonsense, default install is 2GB, for a feature rich desktop, it's hardly bloat08:45
enkeyzcame from arch, so if I get a settings like that, ofc I like it :D08:47
ikoniano, that makes no sense at all08:47
enkeyzwhich one? :D08:47
ikoniathat kubuntu is a bloated system08:47
ikoniaand beause you've used arch, you should automatically like a minimal install, to which you'll pretty much end up installing the standard desktop install anyway when you realise the depedencies are all linked to functionality08:48
enkeyzyou're so negative08:50
enkeyz:)08:50
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zxq9ikonia: Minimism is nice when you have time to mess with it. But that's not always the case.09:02
ikoniazxq9: I don't have a problem with minimal installs09:02
ikoniaI have a problem with people blanketing "minimal as cool" becayse "kubuntu is bloated" when in reality, it's probably just to sound "cool"09:03
zxq9^^09:03
ikoniahence why you'd then drop "I'm an arch user" into conversation as if it's a badge of honour09:03
zxq9Good way to sum it up.09:03
user|87017hello guys10:12
user|87017have a problem installing kubunru 18.4 alongside win1010:13
user|87017at the end of the first partition (win10),maded first 16gb ext4 /10:14
user|87017second 50gb /home10:14
user|87017third 5gb swap10:14
user|87017but the installer stuck10:15
user|87017stucking at 0%10:15
user|87017forever10:15
user|87017i did desactivate fastboot from bios10:15
user|87017my specs -asus rog jz75010:16
user|87017maby rufus fails ?10:16
Roeyhello10:31
RoeyI did a do-release-upgrade and got this error: https://pastebin.com/mDEMnUza  I have 41 GB of space though!! what gives?10:33
G__81hi i am using kubuntu 18.04 and when i click on show desktop icon on the taskbar i see the windows going up and it looks weird. Is there a way to change it to minimize ?10:47
acheronukG__81: in systemsettings under desktop effects, disable the "window aperture" effect10:52
G__81acheronuk: cool thanks a lot10:53
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BluesKajHey folks11:08
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vasiliyВсем привет12:19
vasiliyHello!12:19
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crmltHi19:14
diogenes_hi19:14
crmltAny GUI deb packages installer available for kde?19:14
diogenes_try gdebi, no clue about kde19:15
IrcsomeBot<ccarguelo> @crmlt, gdebi-qt19:16
crmltgood19:16
crmltHow can I acces desktop wallpaper preferences?19:21
acheronukcrmlt: as said yesterday, right click desktop and select "configure desktop" in the popup menu20:05
acheronukor click the desktop toolbox top right and take that option20:06
crmltacheronuk: i dont have properties menu20:08
crmltacheronuk: and toolbox hidden too20:08
crmlti use app menu instead20:09
acheronukcrmlt: if you have done both of those, you are a bit stuck20:09
acheronukto quote a KDE plasma developer I asked yesterday "and if you removed that too, eh editing config file it is"20:10
acheronukwhich is annoying and a bug to be fixed in plasma IMO20:11
crmltacheronuk: yeah its silly20:12
crmlti cant reenable the tooblox now [20:17
crmltis there way to run dekstop settings binary?20:17
acheronuknope. which is stupid20:19
acheronukit's part of the shell, not a standalone thing you can run :(20:19
crmltsad20:20
acheronukyou will likely need to find the part in the plasma config where your right click menu is chaged from the default, and remove that. then you would get that option back20:21
acheronukthen you could use that to enable the toolbox again20:21
acheronukI was slightly amaxed the other day that a user could fall down this little trap and not be able to get out again!20:22
acheronuk*amazed20:22
crmltwhere is the config file?20:24
acheronuk~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc20:25
crmltthx20:26
crmltbrb20:26
crmltthre is mentioned ALT+D shortcut in context menu  to open configuration window20:30
crmltbut it doesn't work on my system20:30
crmltdoes it work for you?20:30
acheronukAFAIK it's a shortcut for when the menu is active. not to avoid it if you see what I mean?20:31
acheronukumm. or maybe not20:32
crmltacheronuk: i've reenabled it20:32
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Lucifer_armaok, so my computer is freezing up whenever I do any streaming media.  Netflix, Hulu, Youtube all cause it to freeze up, and it's independent of whether or not I use firefox or chrome21:09
Lucifer_armaKubuntu 18.0421:09
Lucifer_armaI've ruled out hardware.  The mobo is new, memtest running for 16 hours didn't show any errors (not even randomly expected errors)21:09
Lucifer_armaCPU load is low (teens) and temperature is low (37C)21:10
Lucifer_armaso, everything is pointing at the display system, which, as I understand, is still currently x.org.  Is that correct?21:10
Lucifer_armaIntel 7th gen video21:10
Lucifer_armaso, what's left that I haven't checked?  :)21:10
Lucifer_armaI'm going to fire up some random game and see if it happens there to try to isolate the video system from the network21:11
Lucifer_armaalso, the computer runs fine otherwise.  Basically, as long as I don't watch streaming media, it's fine.  But it's entire reason for existence is to watch streaming media.21:12
valorieRoey: you might run some commands or filelight or so to see where your free space IS21:14
valorieit might not be where you need it21:14
Roeyvalorie: I'm discussing it in BTRFS21:14
valoriek21:14
Roeyvalorie: it's a BTRFS issue actually21:15
Roeyvalorie: *hug* hello!21:15
valorieok21:15
valorieand hello to you too!21:15
designbybeckJust installed Kubuntu 18.04 on a HiDPI screen laptop, everything is tiny and other than changing the resolution I don't know how to make it bigger21:24
designbybeckIn Ubuntu there was just a scale setting, but in Kubuntu the Scale doesn't seem to do everything21:24
designbybeckanyone know an easy fix for HiDPI screens in Kubuntu?21:29
Lucifer_armadesignbybeck: I do, but I'm trying to remember what I did :)21:31
Lucifer_armaI know I changed the font sizes manually21:32
Lucifer_armaI couldn't find a single configuration widget that adjusted the scale as a whole21:32
designbybeckheehee! I really want Kubuntu to be my desktop this go around LTS! ... Few things I didn't like about Gnome, and Mate was almost there. But it seems Plasma and KDE are more streamlined to my needs these days.... just not sure what to do on the HiDPI at the mometn21:32
designbybeckdang! What was the easy thing about Uubntu adjusting everything with one slider21:33
Lucifer_armadesignbybeck: well, honestly, just changing the font sizes fixed 99% of the scale problem for me21:34
Lucifer_armathis is a computer running on a HDTV in the living room, so we needed bigger stuff to be able to read from the couch21:34
designbybeckah yes ok Lucifer_arma, you lil devil you, which font settings did you change21:36
Lucifer_armamy big kubuntu annoyance was that 18.04 removed a lot of stuff that I liked a lot, like the wallpaper I was using21:36
designbybeckI have to relearn all of KDE each time I revisit it21:36
Lucifer_armathere's a widget that adjusts all the font sizes at once.  I'd use that first, then adjust the individual ones as needed.21:36
designbybecklike a desktop widget?21:37
Lucifer_armano, in System Settings->Fonts, there's an "Adjust all fonts" button.21:37
Lucifer_armaPush that, change the size only, and check your results21:37
Lucifer_armayou might be able to get something by fiddling with the Compositor settings, in System Settings->Display->Compositor21:39
Lucifer_armabut I didn't want to potentially screw up videos and stuff by scaling everything painted to the screen21:39
designbybeckoh that did seem to help most things21:39
Lucifer_armathere is a scale setting in System Settings->Display, apparently.21:40
designbybeckyeah that is the main on I tried at first, but it didn't scale the fonts...which is odd! Wish they would have combined that one like Ubuntu did21:40
designbybeckthe main thing I've alwyas hated about KDE is it gave you TO many options!!!!21:41
Lucifer_armaoh yeah, also, why is kubuntu now a double-click UI?  The entire reason I started with KDE in '01 was because it didn't require double-clicking21:41
designbybeckI want to make a spin off called KBaeUntu... K Base Untu21:41
designbybeckclean and streamlined21:42
Lucifer_armathat's odd, I just tried the Scale Display setting and it scaled the fonts, too21:42
designbybeckhaha i like double click for the most part21:42
designbybecklet me close out of Firefox to see if it fixed the fonts here21:43
Lucifer_armaI think it's dumb.  I also think context sensitive menus are dumb.  A button on the mouse shouldn't behave differently depending on where your pointer is, nor on how many times you push it21:43
Lucifer_armaok, Kodi isn't causing the freeze either.  Still limited to Firefox and Chrome, and I don't know of another browser I can test with.  I guess I could try Konqueror, but last I heard, it didn't run netflix/hulu21:44
Cryptosplugin problem?21:48
Cryptosor codex?21:48
Lucifer_armaCryptos: don't know.  Trying to figure it out.  In 17.10, this PC would only occasionally freeze while watching netflix21:49
Lucifer_armahulu and youtube were unaffected.  But since the upgrade to 18.04, I can't watch any video for more than 5 minutes from youtube, hulu, or netflix, regardless of web browser21:49
Lucifer_armasince both firefox and chrome have this problem, it seems safe to say that it's not specific to an app, so now I'm trying to find other apps that replicate the problem21:50
Lucifer_armainstalling extreme tux racer because it's the most intense use of openGL I could think of in 30 seconds that's in the repos21:50
CryptosI have no experience with intel video cards. do they offer a propriatary driver?21:51
Lucifer_armano.  They maintain an open source driver.21:51
Lucifer_armathere's a possibility intel offers an updated driver from what's installed by default, but I couldn't find one21:52
CryptosI'm guessing dmesg shows nothing of help.21:52
Lucifer_armait can't.  When the computer freezes, dmesg isn't available anymore21:53
Lucifer_armaok, I can try dmesg -w from a logged in ssh session from another computer, and I'll have whatever dmesg has at the moment of freeze21:54
Lucifer_armait'll be a few minutes :)21:55
Cryptosalso thinking RAM. did you create a swap partition?21:55
Lucifer_armayes.  I also wrote up a quick script to log ram usage, cpu load, and temperature.  Plenty of available ram, cpuload in the teens, and temperature is steady21:56
Lucifer_armaI ran memtest for 14 hours and got 0 errors.21:56
Lucifer_armaok, started a video and waiting for it to freeze.  I'll see whatever dmesg has when that happens, plus the konsole backbuffer21:58
Lucifer_armathat was fast.  the video already froze.  system unresponsive, etc.  Nothing in the dmesg output.21:58
Cryptosalso log files. but I have no idea which one to look at.21:59
Cryptosthat's about all i can think of. it sounds like your troubleshooting skills are at least as good as mine. I'm no guru.22:00
Lucifer_armayeah, I'm kinda stumped too.  This isn't something that would even show up in syslog.22:00
Lucifer_armaI want to say it's somewhere in the compositor system, but for that to be true, there has to be another app somewhere that'll have the same problem22:01
CryptosYou've probably tried this but, if you launch the app from bash, does it give any kind of error before crashing?22:02
Lucifer_armaactually, now I feel kind of dumb, because I haven't tried that.22:03
Lucifer_armaI'll have to redirect to a file and tail that from an ssh session to get any results, though22:03
Cryptosgood thinking22:04
designbybeckthanks for the help Lucifer_arma... I got it at least a little more usable! The Font scale did most everything I needed!22:04
designbybeckstill going to tweak other things as I go22:04
Cryptosdesign - you can always hold cntrl and roll mouse wheel up/down while pointing to the window. would that help?22:06
designbybeckah yes, i guess that works in some areas too. thanks Cryptos22:08
Cryptoshappy it helps22:08
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Lucifer_armaunfortunately, as expected, there's nothing in the terminal output either22:18
Cryptosbummer22:20
CryptosLucifer_arma is that card using shared ram, or does it have it's own?22:37
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JMichaelXupgraded to 18.04 a few weeks ago, and am still unable to install the proprietary nvidia driver. when i try, i get this: https://pastebin.com/Si83K8nb23:04
JMichaelXif anyone has a solution, it would be much appreciated23:04
JMichaelXmaybe i'm one of the few who has encountered this issue23:05
designbybeckSo a Ctrl+Alt+Shift+ arrowleft right, would move the active window to a new workspace in Ubuntu. Where do I set that up in Kubuntu?23:24
Lucifer_armawell.  I think I correctly disabled the compositor for the browser, and it's still freezing the entire system23:46
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designbybeckHow do you install the 3rd party audio/video stuff? I didn't have the internet when I first installed23:56
designbybecki've already ran my sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade23:57

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