[01:00]  * keithzg has started to seriously dislike Telegram due to all the spam that comes through it onto IRC channels
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[08:40] <enkeyz> yo
[08:40] <enkeyz> just wanted to say thanks to devs, whose included minimal install in setup of Kubuntu
[08:41] <enkeyz> it's awesome
[08:41] <enkeyz> no more bloated system after install
[08:45] <ikonia> yawn at the fantasy of "bloat"
[08:45] <ikonia> utter nonsense, default install is 2GB, for a feature rich desktop, it's hardly bloat
[08:47] <enkeyz> came from arch, so if I get a settings like that, ofc I like it :D
[08:47] <ikonia> no, that makes no sense at all
[08:47] <enkeyz> which one? :D
[08:47] <ikonia> that kubuntu is a bloated system
[08:48] <ikonia> and beause you've used arch, you should automatically like a minimal install, to which you'll pretty much end up installing the standard desktop install anyway when you realise the depedencies are all linked to functionality
[08:50] <enkeyz> you're so negative
[08:50] <enkeyz> :)
[09:02] <zxq9> ikonia: Minimism is nice when you have time to mess with it. But that's not always the case.
[09:02] <ikonia> zxq9: I don't have a problem with minimal installs
[09:03] <ikonia> I have a problem with people blanketing "minimal as cool" becayse "kubuntu is bloated" when in reality, it's probably just to sound "cool"
[09:03] <zxq9> ^^
[09:03] <ikonia> hence why you'd then drop "I'm an arch user" into conversation as if it's a badge of honour
[09:03] <zxq9> Good way to sum it up.
[10:12] <user|87017> hello guys
[10:13] <user|87017> have a problem installing kubunru 18.4 alongside win10
[10:14] <user|87017> at the end of the first partition (win10),maded first 16gb ext4 /
[10:14] <user|87017> second 50gb /home
[10:14] <user|87017> third 5gb swap
[10:15] <user|87017> but the installer stuck
[10:15] <user|87017> stucking at 0%
[10:15] <user|87017> forever
[10:15] <user|87017> i did desactivate fastboot from bios
[10:16] <user|87017> my specs -asus rog jz750
[10:16] <user|87017> maby rufus fails ?
[10:31] <Roey> hello
[10:33] <Roey> I did a do-release-upgrade and got this error: https://pastebin.com/mDEMnUza  I have 41 GB of space though!! what gives?
[10:47] <G__81> hi i am using kubuntu 18.04 and when i click on show desktop icon on the taskbar i see the windows going up and it looks weird. Is there a way to change it to minimize ?
[10:52] <acheronuk> G__81: in systemsettings under desktop effects, disable the "window aperture" effect
[10:53] <G__81> acheronuk: cool thanks a lot
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
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[12:19] <vasiliy> Всем привет
[12:19] <vasiliy> Hello!
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Hi vasiliy
[12:52] <ikonia> what ??
[13:17] <acheronuk> ikonia: advertising unofficial TG groups. have removed them from our official bridged group
[13:18] <ikonia> ahhh
[19:14] <crmlt> Hi
[19:14] <diogenes_> hi
[19:14] <crmlt> Any GUI deb packages installer available for kde?
[19:15] <diogenes_> try gdebi, no clue about kde
 @crmlt, gdebi-qt
[19:16] <crmlt> good
[19:21] <crmlt> How can I acces desktop wallpaper preferences?
[20:05] <acheronuk> crmlt: as said yesterday, right click desktop and select "configure desktop" in the popup menu
[20:06] <acheronuk> or click the desktop toolbox top right and take that option
[20:08] <crmlt> acheronuk: i dont have properties menu
[20:08] <crmlt> acheronuk: and toolbox hidden too
[20:09] <crmlt> i use app menu instead
[20:09] <acheronuk> crmlt: if you have done both of those, you are a bit stuck
[20:10] <acheronuk> to quote a KDE plasma developer I asked yesterday "and if you removed that too, eh editing config file it is"
[20:11] <acheronuk> which is annoying and a bug to be fixed in plasma IMO
[20:12] <crmlt> acheronuk: yeah its silly
[20:17] <crmlt> i cant reenable the tooblox now [
[20:17] <crmlt> is there way to run dekstop settings binary?
[20:19] <acheronuk> nope. which is stupid
[20:19] <acheronuk> it's part of the shell, not a standalone thing you can run :(
[20:20] <crmlt> sad
[20:21] <acheronuk> you will likely need to find the part in the plasma config where your right click menu is chaged from the default, and remove that. then you would get that option back
[20:21] <acheronuk> then you could use that to enable the toolbox again
[20:22] <acheronuk> I was slightly amaxed the other day that a user could fall down this little trap and not be able to get out again!
[20:22] <acheronuk> *amazed
[20:24] <crmlt> where is the config file?
[20:25] <acheronuk> ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
[20:26] <crmlt> thx
[20:26] <crmlt> brb
[20:30] <crmlt> thre is mentioned ALT+D shortcut in context menu  to open configuration window
[20:30] <crmlt> but it doesn't work on my system
[20:30] <crmlt> does it work for you?
[20:31] <acheronuk> AFAIK it's a shortcut for when the menu is active. not to avoid it if you see what I mean?
[20:32] <acheronuk> umm. or maybe not
[20:32] <crmlt> acheronuk: i've reenabled it
[20:32] <acheronuk> kool
[21:09] <Lucifer_arma> ok, so my computer is freezing up whenever I do any streaming media.  Netflix, Hulu, Youtube all cause it to freeze up, and it's independent of whether or not I use firefox or chrome
[21:09] <Lucifer_arma> Kubuntu 18.04
[21:09] <Lucifer_arma> I've ruled out hardware.  The mobo is new, memtest running for 16 hours didn't show any errors (not even randomly expected errors)
[21:10] <Lucifer_arma> CPU load is low (teens) and temperature is low (37C)
[21:10] <Lucifer_arma> so, everything is pointing at the display system, which, as I understand, is still currently x.org.  Is that correct?
[21:10] <Lucifer_arma> Intel 7th gen video
[21:10] <Lucifer_arma> so, what's left that I haven't checked?  :)
[21:11] <Lucifer_arma> I'm going to fire up some random game and see if it happens there to try to isolate the video system from the network
[21:12] <Lucifer_arma> also, the computer runs fine otherwise.  Basically, as long as I don't watch streaming media, it's fine.  But it's entire reason for existence is to watch streaming media.
[21:14] <valorie> Roey: you might run some commands or filelight or so to see where your free space IS
[21:14] <valorie> it might not be where you need it
[21:14] <Roey> valorie: I'm discussing it in BTRFS
[21:14] <valorie> k
[21:15] <Roey> valorie: it's a BTRFS issue actually
[21:15] <Roey> valorie: *hug* hello!
[21:15] <valorie> ok
[21:15] <valorie> and hello to you too!
[21:24] <designbybeck> Just installed Kubuntu 18.04 on a HiDPI screen laptop, everything is tiny and other than changing the resolution I don't know how to make it bigger
[21:24] <designbybeck> In Ubuntu there was just a scale setting, but in Kubuntu the Scale doesn't seem to do everything
[21:29] <designbybeck> anyone know an easy fix for HiDPI screens in Kubuntu?
[21:31] <Lucifer_arma> designbybeck: I do, but I'm trying to remember what I did :)
[21:32] <Lucifer_arma> I know I changed the font sizes manually
[21:32] <Lucifer_arma> I couldn't find a single configuration widget that adjusted the scale as a whole
[21:32] <designbybeck> heehee! I really want Kubuntu to be my desktop this go around LTS! ... Few things I didn't like about Gnome, and Mate was almost there. But it seems Plasma and KDE are more streamlined to my needs these days.... just not sure what to do on the HiDPI at the mometn
[21:33] <designbybeck> dang! What was the easy thing about Uubntu adjusting everything with one slider
[21:34] <Lucifer_arma> designbybeck: well, honestly, just changing the font sizes fixed 99% of the scale problem for me
[21:34] <Lucifer_arma> this is a computer running on a HDTV in the living room, so we needed bigger stuff to be able to read from the couch
[21:36] <designbybeck> ah yes ok Lucifer_arma, you lil devil you, which font settings did you change
[21:36] <Lucifer_arma> my big kubuntu annoyance was that 18.04 removed a lot of stuff that I liked a lot, like the wallpaper I was using
[21:36] <designbybeck> I have to relearn all of KDE each time I revisit it
[21:36] <Lucifer_arma> there's a widget that adjusts all the font sizes at once.  I'd use that first, then adjust the individual ones as needed.
[21:37] <designbybeck> like a desktop widget?
[21:37] <Lucifer_arma> no, in System Settings->Fonts, there's an "Adjust all fonts" button.
[21:37] <Lucifer_arma> Push that, change the size only, and check your results
[21:39] <Lucifer_arma> you might be able to get something by fiddling with the Compositor settings, in System Settings->Display->Compositor
[21:39] <Lucifer_arma> but I didn't want to potentially screw up videos and stuff by scaling everything painted to the screen
[21:39] <designbybeck> oh that did seem to help most things
[21:40] <Lucifer_arma> there is a scale setting in System Settings->Display, apparently.
[21:40] <designbybeck> yeah that is the main on I tried at first, but it didn't scale the fonts...which is odd! Wish they would have combined that one like Ubuntu did
[21:41] <designbybeck> the main thing I've alwyas hated about KDE is it gave you TO many options!!!!
[21:41] <Lucifer_arma> oh yeah, also, why is kubuntu now a double-click UI?  The entire reason I started with KDE in '01 was because it didn't require double-clicking
[21:41] <designbybeck> I want to make a spin off called KBaeUntu... K Base Untu
[21:42] <designbybeck> clean and streamlined
[21:42] <Lucifer_arma> that's odd, I just tried the Scale Display setting and it scaled the fonts, too
[21:42] <designbybeck> haha i like double click for the most part
[21:43] <designbybeck> let me close out of Firefox to see if it fixed the fonts here
[21:43] <Lucifer_arma> I think it's dumb.  I also think context sensitive menus are dumb.  A button on the mouse shouldn't behave differently depending on where your pointer is, nor on how many times you push it
[21:44] <Lucifer_arma> ok, Kodi isn't causing the freeze either.  Still limited to Firefox and Chrome, and I don't know of another browser I can test with.  I guess I could try Konqueror, but last I heard, it didn't run netflix/hulu
[21:48] <Cryptos> plugin problem?
[21:48] <Cryptos> or codex?
[21:49] <Lucifer_arma> Cryptos: don't know.  Trying to figure it out.  In 17.10, this PC would only occasionally freeze while watching netflix
[21:49] <Lucifer_arma> hulu and youtube were unaffected.  But since the upgrade to 18.04, I can't watch any video for more than 5 minutes from youtube, hulu, or netflix, regardless of web browser
[21:50] <Lucifer_arma> since both firefox and chrome have this problem, it seems safe to say that it's not specific to an app, so now I'm trying to find other apps that replicate the problem
[21:50] <Lucifer_arma> installing extreme tux racer because it's the most intense use of openGL I could think of in 30 seconds that's in the repos
[21:51] <Cryptos> I have no experience with intel video cards. do they offer a propriatary driver?
[21:51] <Lucifer_arma> no.  They maintain an open source driver.
[21:52] <Lucifer_arma> there's a possibility intel offers an updated driver from what's installed by default, but I couldn't find one
[21:52] <Cryptos> I'm guessing dmesg shows nothing of help.
[21:53] <Lucifer_arma> it can't.  When the computer freezes, dmesg isn't available anymore
[21:54] <Lucifer_arma> ok, I can try dmesg -w from a logged in ssh session from another computer, and I'll have whatever dmesg has at the moment of freeze
[21:55] <Lucifer_arma> it'll be a few minutes :)
[21:55] <Cryptos> also thinking RAM. did you create a swap partition?
[21:56] <Lucifer_arma> yes.  I also wrote up a quick script to log ram usage, cpu load, and temperature.  Plenty of available ram, cpuload in the teens, and temperature is steady
[21:56] <Lucifer_arma> I ran memtest for 14 hours and got 0 errors.
[21:58] <Lucifer_arma> ok, started a video and waiting for it to freeze.  I'll see whatever dmesg has when that happens, plus the konsole backbuffer
[21:58] <Lucifer_arma> that was fast.  the video already froze.  system unresponsive, etc.  Nothing in the dmesg output.
[21:59] <Cryptos> also log files. but I have no idea which one to look at.
[22:00] <Cryptos> that's about all i can think of. it sounds like your troubleshooting skills are at least as good as mine. I'm no guru.
[22:00] <Lucifer_arma> yeah, I'm kinda stumped too.  This isn't something that would even show up in syslog.
[22:01] <Lucifer_arma> I want to say it's somewhere in the compositor system, but for that to be true, there has to be another app somewhere that'll have the same problem
[22:02] <Cryptos> You've probably tried this but, if you launch the app from bash, does it give any kind of error before crashing?
[22:03] <Lucifer_arma> actually, now I feel kind of dumb, because I haven't tried that.
[22:03] <Lucifer_arma> I'll have to redirect to a file and tail that from an ssh session to get any results, though
[22:04] <Cryptos> good thinking
[22:04] <designbybeck> thanks for the help Lucifer_arma... I got it at least a little more usable! The Font scale did most everything I needed!
[22:04] <designbybeck> still going to tweak other things as I go
[22:06] <Cryptos> design - you can always hold cntrl and roll mouse wheel up/down while pointing to the window. would that help?
[22:08] <designbybeck> ah yes, i guess that works in some areas too. thanks Cryptos
[22:08] <Cryptos> happy it helps
[22:18] <Lucifer_arma> unfortunately, as expected, there's nothing in the terminal output either
[22:20] <Cryptos> bummer
[22:37] <Cryptos> Lucifer_arma is that card using shared ram, or does it have it's own?
[23:04] <JMichaelX> upgraded to 18.04 a few weeks ago, and am still unable to install the proprietary nvidia driver. when i try, i get this: https://pastebin.com/Si83K8nb
[23:04] <JMichaelX> if anyone has a solution, it would be much appreciated
[23:05] <JMichaelX> maybe i'm one of the few who has encountered this issue
[23:24] <designbybeck> So a Ctrl+Alt+Shift+ arrowleft right, would move the active window to a new workspace in Ubuntu. Where do I set that up in Kubuntu?
[23:46] <Lucifer_arma> well.  I think I correctly disabled the compositor for the browser, and it's still freezing the entire system
[23:56] <designbybeck> How do you install the 3rd party audio/video stuff? I didn't have the internet when I first installed
[23:57] <designbybeck> i've already ran my sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade