[00:00] <troozers> Yep, definitely weird. I can move the VM window if I sneak up on it from another window focus.  However if the VM window has focus, I can't move it O_o
[00:01] <mindloop> Hallway monitors abound.
[00:01] <bg2032> troozers, it's a haunting
[00:02] <troozers> it's a nnoying
[00:02] <bg2032> yes, you seem very nnoyed. Have you tried using a different window manager?
[00:03] <troozers> No.  I've had this working on another computer using the same version of Ubuntu and the same WM
[00:04] <bg2032> could it have to do with your graphics driver?
[00:04] <troozers> Intel i915
[00:05] <troozers> are there any known issues with it? ...and it's only happening with the window containing the VM.  All other windows are fine
[00:05] <bg2032> I'm not sure whether the modesetting driver works with it
[00:06] <troozers> Will try with a seperate VM running
[00:06] <mindloop> bg2032, Thanks, I think your command got it
[00:07] <drew09> If I'm installing a package A that also contain a package B, when I use --no-install-recommends will that work only on A or also the other included packages?
[00:33] <pylearner> i need to user logger command to send syslog to remote server via tcp
[00:33] <Summerstorm> How is everybody doing with Ubuntu 18.10 ? It's working well for me.
[00:33] <pylearner> i am having trouble making certain i have the correct command sequence down
[00:36] <xamithan> It isn't released until october,  how is it working for you?
[00:41] <Summerstorm> Oops, sorry. 18.04
[00:46] <kran> Got a question: Ubuntu was installed on a system. Motherboard died (ASUS 1156) and will be replaced with a Dell motherboard (also 1156). Will it work with the old SSD/installation?
[00:47] <matjam> kran: most likely
[00:47] <matjam> in fact I'd give it an almost definitely
[00:47] <kran> matjam: what about a more radical change like to a 755 chipset?
[00:47] <pragmaticenigma> kran: I
[00:48] <matjam> the only issue might be if your old mobo was not uefi and the new one is
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> kran: I've transplanted harddrives between many different systems and it always has just worked. As long as the install doesn't have too many kernel customizations it will work
[00:48] <matjam> but generally speaking the kernels installed are the same
[00:48] <matjam> they autoconfigure devices as needed and load whatever kernel modules are required for the current hardware
[00:48] <pragmaticenigma> for uefi, need only disable that and go to legacy boot
[00:49] <kran> OK, good. This is that problem I was talking about before. I tried a different GPU and it looks like whatever broke in the MOBO broke really bad because even when not using the integrated GPU it still crashes after a while.
[00:50] <kran> pragmaticenigma matjam what about taking that SSD and plugging it into a dell laptop? My main concern is I don't want to screw up the installation. This is temporary.
[00:50] <matjam> nah should be fine mate
[00:51] <kran> matjam OK thanks guys.
[00:51] <matjam> you might have to do some config to get the video working for X but thats reversable
[00:51] <matjam> it will most likely just boot straight into X fine.
[00:51] <pragmaticenigma> I'm confident you're going to be just fine kran ... at worse, you might have to reach out for a little help
[00:58] <kran> i got invalid extent
[00:58] <kran> entering grub rescue mode
[00:58] <shijie> test
[01:02] <pragmaticenigma> kran: bad extent is probably from the previous machine failing to shutdown properly.
[01:03] <kran> pragmaticenigma OK. btw this is in a Dell e6410 now. Before it was on an 1156 PC using a p7h55 m pro MOBO (that's where it was installed and where it worked).
[01:04] <kran> Only thing I found so far is this: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=243498
[01:13] <kran> OK fixed it, had to change BIOS from SATA to ATA.
[01:34] <UngaBunga> #raspberrypi
[01:41] <egc> has anybody successfully run a vncserver from a headless box on ubuntu 18.04?
[01:43] <SlidingHorn> egc: I'm sure they have - what's your actual question, though?  That will help someone help you more :)
[01:44] <egc> SlidingHorn: Right - more specifically, I wonder which software they have used successfully.  I would like to run tigervnc as the server on ubuntu, and realvnc as a client on mac os
[01:45] <egc> and I've been playing with that, but haven't quite gotten it to work
[01:47] <egc> i followed this tutorial for CentOS 7 once and it worked really well:  https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-remote-access-for-the-gnome-desktop-on-centos-7
[01:48] <egc> and I'd like to do the same with Ubuntu instead of CentOS.  I figure now that the desktop is Gnome-based, maybe it'll work better
[01:49] <xamithan> I don't like installing all that extra desktop stuff.  x2go works just as good if you only need certain programs in X
[01:50] <egc> xamithan: exactly... I'd like something that works with the default desktop.  The problem with the screen sharing options from the settings app is that it doesn't work for headless (easily)
[01:51] <egc> that may be a way to go though... just fake out a connected display in X
[01:51] <egc> anyways - whatever thoughts people have are welcome
[02:21] <altendky> i am able to run ccstudio (TI's eclipse) headless in my debian install (and previously in ubuntu) but in an ubuntu 17.10 docker image it just sits there for 7 seconds and silently quits.  i'm guessing a missing dependency...  maybe?  is it possible to run a program and list all files it loads so I could figure out what packages it needs?  i've also got an strace if you have suggestions with that.
[02:24] <R13ose> altendky: did you try running it in terminal and see what messages appear?
[02:24] <shpingrlde> i'm having trouble with apt-cacher preventing me from doing apt update. if I comment out apt.conf.d/01proxy, i can apt update, and then i can uncomment it when i apt upgrade, but that's really inconvenient. it says:
[02:24] <shpingrlde> Err:14 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu artful-security/main DEP-11 64x64 Icons 403 Sorry, not allowed to fetch that type of file: icons-64x64.tar
[02:25] <altendky> R13ose: in the docker?  yes.  nothing appears.  if i run it without specifying headless (-noSplash) i immediately get `Ccstudio: Cannot open display:` and then it still sits for the 7 seconds before quitting.
[02:27] <R13ose> altendky: okay but in terminal
[02:28] <altendky> R13ose: i was at a terminal in the docker image.  do you mean outside of the docker image where it works?
[03:05] <pookie> hello
[03:10] <metrum_> hi! I tried to update my nvidia driver on 16.04, but since then I got "the system is running in low-graphics mode". I looked for solutions on the internet, but in recovery mode, i cant use apt-get use apt-get to reinstall gdm, ubuntu-dekstop, because the network isn't working. Any idea?
[03:12] <Bashing-om> metrum_: At the login screen, key combo ctl+alt+f2 to gain a console interface; from here one can do some investigating to see what the issue is .
[03:13] <metrum_> but why cant i use the apt-get for example if i want to reinstall the desktop, nvidia driver or gdm? It cant connect to the servers to get the packages.
[03:15] <Bashing-om> metrum_: in the root console from recovery, networking is not enabled by default .
[03:16] <metrum_> yeah, i tried to enable the network, but it says /etc/resolv.conf, no such file or directory :D
[03:17] <superguest> .w retinue
[03:18] <superguest> .w retinue
[03:21] <hpardis> if im running 17.10, should i be upgrading to 18.04 or wait until 18.10?
[03:23] <Bashing-om> hpardis: 18.04 to upgrade to. 17.10 will be EOL before 18.10 is released .
[03:24] <hpardis> thanks
[03:24] <Bashing-om> !lts | hpardis
[03:28] <JoeD> Quick question with sed command
[03:28] <JoeD> I'm trying to remove the last bracket: how to replace foo('bar'}) to foo('bar') with sed?
[03:29] <JoeD> I'm trying to use grouping because the 'bar' is variable
[03:30] <deww> JoeD: maybe sed -e s/}//
[03:30] <deww> did you already try that?
[03:31] <JoeD> What does the -e parameter does?
[03:31] <deww> edit
[03:31] <JoeD> K, will try it. Hold on!
[03:31] <deww> no, it means expression
[03:31] <deww> woop
[03:36] <JoeD> deww: Noop
[03:36] <deww> What did you do?
[03:37] <JoeD> deww: I have some lines, for example: "optAddonSettings_Get_('ScreenResolution'});" and "optAddonSettings_Get_('FinancialYear'});". I've already used "find . -iname \*.gs -exec sed -i "s/optAddonUserSettings('get', {select:/optAddonSettings_Get_(/g" {} \;"
[03:37] <JoeD> deem: Now I just need to remove the last bracket"
[03:37] <SlidingHorn> JoeD: sed -i 's/foo\}/foo/g'
[03:38] <JoeD> SlidingHorn: But it sometimes is foo} and other times bar}
[03:38] <JoeD> so I tried /(.*)}/$1/
[03:39] <deww> hmm
[03:39] <JoeD> deww: :D
[03:40] <deww> JoeD: is it always } or are there some cases of } you want?
[03:40] <Claire235> Hiya SlidingHorn :-)
[03:40] <JoeD> No exceptions. I'm replace foo({a:b}) to foo(b)
[03:41] <deww> JoeD: not sure why you can't just match a single }, does it error out?
[03:41] <JoeD> Lol there are other parts of the code with }
[03:41] <JoeD> deww: So it would screw up with everyting
[03:42] <deww> mmhmm
[03:42] <JoeD> deww: Would you like to see the code?
[03:42] <deww> what about '} ? is that always part you'd want to replace?
[03:42] <deww> my regex foo is pretty bad
[03:43] <JoeD> deww: Try regexone.com
[03:43] <JoeD> deww: The only problem here is that I can't figure out how to use grouping
[03:47] <JoeD> deww: Ooh, I think '&' will do the trick
[03:47] <JoeD> Nop
[03:49] <deww> i just broke my installation of things
[03:49] <JoeD> Lol
[05:20] <halpmeplz> hello
[05:21] <halpmeplz> can anyone help me make my 4x blu ray player turn into a 10x?
[05:56] <Wulf> ThisWeekInLinux: install a faster motor?
[05:57] <douggle> so quick question how would i resolve this error? awk: /tmp/.mount_rpcs3-wQy1gC/usr/lib/libtinfo.so.5: no version information available (required by /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libreadline.so.7)?
[05:58] <SlidingHorn> douggle: what version & flavor OS?  Also what command is giving the error?
[05:59] <douggle> Ubuntu mate 18.04, and opening rpcs3
[05:59] <douggle> the ps3 emulator
[06:01] <SlidingHorn> douggle: ah...not sure - you might have better luck asking on their forum or in their discord
[06:09] <Two_Dogs> douggle: i see a mismatch of versions in your error msg
[06:44] <rangemonger> installing xinit from apt after a minimal/net install doesnt result in a working startx command with 18.04
[07:01] <nobnoob4> hello
[07:01] <nobnoob4> so i just set up a dual boot of win 10 and 18.04 on a single ssd
[07:02] <nobnoob4> now i have an hdd i want shared by both
[07:02] <nobnoob4> what would be the best file system to use?
[07:02] <Wulf> nobnoob4: fat32
[07:02] <nobnoob4> windows can read encrypted partitions?
[07:02] <nobnoob4> isint fat32 limited to 4gb file sizes?
[07:03] <Wulf> no, it's not limited
[07:03] <Wulf> or got a higher limit
[07:03] <nobnoob4> hmmm
[07:03] <Wulf> I don't think you can encrypt fat32
[07:03] <nobnoob4> i meant a ext4
[07:03] <ducasse> fat is limited to 4gb files, yes
[07:03] <rangemonger> why not ntfs?
[07:04] <nobnoob4> linux reads those with no problem?
[07:04] <Wulf> rangemonger: gives trouble on linux
[07:04] <rangemonger> never has for me
[07:04] <nobnoob4> id like to have it encrypted
[07:04] <nobnoob4> but windos
[07:04] <ducasse> ntfs should work well enough, but you can't encrypt the partition
[07:05] <ducasse> you could use something like veracrypt to make encrypted volumes, i guess
[07:05] <nobnoob4> on ubuntu is there an easy way to encrypt folders? not entire drives?
[07:05] <rangemonger> cant imagine an encrypted partition playing nicely with both, no matter what fs it uses
[07:06] <nobnoob4> i think im better off, splitting the drive
[07:06] <nobnoob4> then
[07:06] <rangemonger> the meta packages are becoming a mess
[07:06] <nobnoob4> encrypted ext4 and ntfs possible on same drive?
[07:07] <nobnoob4> sorry, im noob
[07:07] <rangemonger> installing lxdm gets lightdm -_-
[07:07] <ducasse> nobnoob4: yes, that's possible
[07:08] <rangemonger> what about that thing for windows that lets you access ext drives? does that work with encrypted ext?
[07:09] <ducasse> no
[07:11] <janat08> could somebody help with: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/443270/how-to-fix-boot-into-initramfs-with-root-not-found
[07:12] <EriC^^> janat08: can you boot a live usb?
[07:13] <janat08> ye, we actually talked yesterday
[07:13] <janat08> i was trying to install grub
[07:13] <EriC^^> i know
[07:17] <EriC^^> so?
[07:22] <janat08> EriC^^: I launched it
[07:22] <janat08> but without internet
[07:30] <PurrrfectKitty> guten tag
[07:30] <PurrrfectKitty> my right click is now not working on 18.04 :(
[07:30] <PurrrfectKitty> I have a thinkpad one button touchpad
[07:42] <Godoshian> PurrrfectKitty, can you please try clicking with touching 2 fingers
[07:44] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[07:44] <rainbowwarrior> hi, i am running windows 10 with ubuntu 17.10 and i am using an msi ge 60 2qd apache laptop, my problem is its loading straight into windows and not linux, how do i swap to linux please?
[07:48] <janat08> rainbowwarrior: did you look a BIOS boot order
[07:55] <PurrrfectKitty> Godoshian: Nope
[07:55] <PurrrfectKitty> Godoshian: I even enabled that option! Clickinrg in the bottom right des not work eithe
[07:55] <PurrrfectKitty> grrrrr stupid ubuntulu
[07:56] <PurrrfectKitty> Does thelinux not support right click or something?
[07:57] <Godoshian> PurrrfectKitty, linux supports right clicking
[07:57] <PurrrfectKitty> Godoshian: That is not my experience so far!!
[08:00] <rangemonger> the trick is supporting a complete, 100% lack of any and all bugs :P
[08:03] <PurrrfectKitty> Did you just suggest the linux is very buggy?
[08:04] <rangemonger> every os is
[08:05] <rangemonger> atleast every one within the last 20 years or so
[08:11] <JimBuntu> PurrrfectKitty, Have you tried using the previous kernel (the one where your right-click was working) ?
[08:12] <PurrrfectKitty> Feels a little advanced for me
[08:12] <PurrrfectKitty> I am on the latest ubuntu LTS, stock
[08:12] <ducasse> or try in a guest session?
[08:13] <PurrrfectKitty> I will try that
[08:13] <JimBuntu> PurrrfectKitty, you could try holding the SHIFT key while booting, if you get the Brub menu, then you can selected 'Advanced' and choose the 2nd newest kernel
[08:13] <JimBuntu> s/Brug/Grub  (what the heck is Brub?!)
[08:13] <PurrrfectKitty> JimBuntu: That easy? Interesting. I'll try it
[08:13] <JimBuntu> k
[08:14] <PurrrfectKitty> I get away with it because I don't do much on this machine.. Some browsing, plex, irssi
[08:14] <JimBuntu> Well, if this solves it, then it IS most likely a bug. A quick bug report and I suspect the fix will be quick.
[08:15] <JimBuntu> FWIW: This has been an ongoing thing, back and forth between working or not, for a few touchpads
[08:15] <PurrrfectKitty> It was fine on 16.04 :(
[08:15] <PurrrfectKitty> It was fine for a day or two on 18 as well, then it just stopped
[08:15] <JimBuntu> PurrrfectKitty, yeah, with 18.04, I suspect your kernel was updated too...
[08:16] <davidrsmorris> Hi, I'm setting up a Win7/18.04 dual boot, so that's probably not UEFI.  Is there a supported way to do that or should I use Wubi (which was the stack overflow answer)?
[08:16] <JimBuntu> Oh. Hmmm. Could still be the kernel, may be something else if it was a sudden change from working to not-working though
[08:16] <PurrrfectKitty> I formatted entirely. I may not have a previous kernel?
[08:16] <PurrrfectKitty> Maybe I can keep going with it and then just format in a few months
[08:16] <JimBuntu> Grub 2, legacy mode davidrsmorris
[08:17] <PurrrfectKitty> davidrsmorris: are you british?
[08:17] <JimBuntu> PurrrfectKitty, could be... depends on if unattended updates is enabled and/or if you allowed the update program to run.
[08:17] <davidrsmorris> PurrrfectKitty: I downloaded the image from Germany, could that be the issue?  (am american)
[08:18] <PurrrfectKitty> Silly common names ;p
[08:18] <JimBuntu> Oh, no. The Americans are waking up! lol (take no offense)
[08:21] <davidrsmorris> JimBuntu: I'm having difficulty finding a description of legacy mode on Ubuntu sites.  Is there a disk image, or do I invoke the install from the livecd differently?
[08:22] <JimBuntu> davidrsmorris, I have not installed 18.04, I don't remember there being any issues with non-UEFI based installs in the past.
[08:23] <JimBuntu> davidrsmorris, are you running into an issue?
[08:23] <EriC^^> davidrsmorris: you boot the usb in legacy mode from the pc
[08:23] <EriC^^> you should get a menu instead of the black & white grub screen
[08:25] <davidrsmorris> JimBuntu: EriC^^ : I can start the LiveCD, the issue is that there isn't a GUI option to install a dual boot, even after I've used gparted to free 200gigs in the middle of the disk.
[08:25] <EriC^^> davidrsmorris: can you pastebin your 'sudo parted -ls' output?
[08:26] <EriC^^> davidrsmorris: does the partition table appear if you click on 'something else' in the installer?
[08:42] <davidrsmorris> EriC^^: Yes, but I don't see a way to use the unallocated partition.  Should I format it ext before invoking the installer?
[08:47] <davidrsmorris> Also, is there a political reason I'm unaware of that it's no longer easy to set up a dual boot on BIOS systems as a beginner?  There used to be a "install side by side" option which would resize disks as default.
[08:48] <PurrrfectKitty> Is this the right place to discuss Slipknot's Iowa album?
[08:49] <mancman3> political ???
[08:51] <physkets> Hi!
[08:51] <physkets> What virtual machine on Windows 10 is best fro running Ubuntu?
[08:51] <physkets> *for
[08:53] <physkets> Is the Oracle VirtualBox okay?
[08:53] <mancman3> physkets: i like virtualbox, but there are others.
[08:53] <mancman3> doesn't windows have something built in?
[08:53] <tomreyn> there's ##windows for discussing windows software
[08:54] <tomreyn> ubuntu works fine in any proper HVM
[08:55] <physkets> mancman3: yes, there is the "windows susbsystem for linux", but that is a set of tools
[08:56] <physkets> I want the full OS and experience, to get a Windows user used to it
[08:56] <physkets> (and hen eventually make the shift)
[08:56] <mancman3> virtualbox
[08:56] <mancman3> vmware
[08:56] <mancman3> others
[08:57] <physkets> okay, I'll use virtualbox, then
[08:58] <mancman3> just read the docs first and install guest additions too
[08:59] <pabs3> when/where are EOL dates for future releases (like cosmic) announced?
[09:01] <mancman3> ubuntu wiki... do a search for ubuntu schedule
[09:04] <guiverc> pabs3, 9 months for regular releases; 5 years for LTS releases (main Ubuntu).  it's not hard to know (16.04 = 2016.April release)
[09:06] <someone235> Hi, I want to add a new language to a fesh installed Ubuntu 18.04
[09:06] <keep_learning> Hi Everyone, I am running a program on Ubuntu system which involves some cryptographic jar files.
[09:06] <someone235> But when I click "language support" the window jumps for a second, and then disappears
[09:07] <keep_learning> real    841m31.739s
[09:07] <keep_learning> user    0m22.504s
[09:07] <keep_learning> sys    0m14.788s
[09:07] <someone235> someone has an idea how to solve this?
[09:07] <keep_learning> It runs for more than 10 hours but the cpu usage is 14 seconds!
[09:08] <ikonia> keep_learning: no it's not
[09:08] <ikonia> keep_learning: are you doing "time" in front of it by any chance ?
[09:08] <keep_learning> ikonia Yes
[09:08] <ikonia> someone235: a good way to debug it is to launch the interface from the command line
[09:08] <ikonia> keep_learning: right, so that is not 14 seconds of cpu
[09:09] <brainwash> someone235: does the same thing happen if you open Settings and then switch to Region & Language?
[09:09] <keep_learning> ikonia You mean time is not good way to measure the cpu time.
[09:10] <someone235> ikonia: I'm not sure how. I usually use Xubuntu. How can I know which command I should use?
[09:10] <keep_learning> If I run the same Java code on Mac book then it runs in less than a second.
[09:10] <ikonia> keep_learning: it's not "cpu"
[09:10] <ikonia> keep_learning: it's resources, not "cpu"
[09:10] <ikonia> and look at the output, it's 14 seconds of sys resource
[09:11] <ikonia> not 14 seconds of resource
[09:11] <someone235> ikonia: I clicked "Show Details" but it opens a page in "Ubuntu Software". I don't find the location of the file I should execute
[09:11] <ikonia> someone235: I don't know the command for the language dialog, I never use it, sorry
[09:12] <keep_learning> ikonia Thanks for clarification.  The jarfiles involved are https://github.com/mukeshtiwari/EncryptionSchulze/tree/master/code/javacryptocode/jarfiles
[09:12] <keep_learning> It's basically a crypto library, jni and jnigmp
[09:13] <keep_learning> Any idea about why it's slow on Linux machine but very fast on Mac.
[09:13] <ikonia> keep_learning: what version of ubuntu are you doing this on ?
[09:14] <keep_learning> Linux newport 3.13.0-144-generic #193-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 15 17:03:53 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:14] <someone235> brainwash: "Region & Language" works, but I need "Manage Installed Languages"
[09:14] <ikonia> keep_learning: no, thats a kernel
[09:14] <ikonia> keep_learning: what version of ubuntu are you using
[09:15] <mpo> Hellooo!
[09:15] <keep_learning> 	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS, trusty
[09:16] <someone235> ikonia: if I find an application in "Show Applications", is there a way to see which command I should run to use it in cli?
[09:17] <ikonia> keep_learning: is this in a vm by any chance ?
[09:17] <ikonia> or physical resource ?
[09:17] <keep_learning> physical resource
[09:17] <someone235> brainwash: when I click "Manage Installed Languages" it appears for a second, and then disappears
[09:18] <ikonia> keep_learning: so I would strace the process, I'd monitor the cpu to see if it's fighting for resouce, I'd look at other resouces, such as disk / ram to see if that is causing a wait on cpu
[09:18] <ikonia> keep_learning: I'd also look at the jvm params that are being used
[09:19] <keep_learning> ikonia Thank you.
[09:20] <mpo> I have a problem that I'd like to seek support for. Somehow I have managed to tweak the settings in such a way that whenever I try to open an html file, including URLs, the file is opened in an epub reader. I'd like to change this extra-ordinary behaviour, so that html files and every other HTTP resources will be opened in a web browser. Thanks in advance.
[09:21] <mpo> I think I made that epub reader the standard application for .html
[09:26] <brainwash> someone235: gnome-control-center
[09:26] <brainwash> someone235: that may still be the cli command
[09:57] <janat08> could somebody help with: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/443270/how-to-fix-boot-into-initramfs-with-root-not-found
[09:57] <janat08> im in live image
[09:57] <janat08> *cd
[09:58] <hopala> imige boot
[09:58] <untoreh> hello help problem network-manager: creating a pppoe connection doesn't work, I can setup everything fine and the entry appears in the connections editor, but it doesn't get listed from the nm-applet, HOWEVER if I create the connection from nmcli it somehow appears in the nm-applet dropdown and I can connect to it, BUT if I restart network-manager the connection disappears again, ALTHOUGH if I disconnect from ether the p
[09:58] <untoreh> is automatically initialized. wtf?
[09:58] <hopala> burn
[09:59] <ledeni> untoreh, 18.04?
[10:00] <untoreh> ledeni: y
[10:00] <Gegsite> ahoy
[10:01] <ledeni> untoreh, try 'nm-connection-editor' in terminal
[10:01] <Gegsite> I have a strange problem. after updating 17.10 to 18.04 the X dont starts automaticly
[10:02] <untoreh> ledeni: what would that accomplish? its the same if I start it from the nm-applet
[10:03] <hopala> Gegsite:   use clean install
[10:03] <Gegsite> I thought I could simply write something into  init.d or so
[10:05] <untoreh> ledeni: it simply prints connection validates and can be saved.
[10:05] <Gegsite> cause after I login in konzole startx starts, tho I have to wait pretty long, compare what it should be
[10:21] <ledeni> Gegsite, can you give us 'sudo systemctl list-unit-files | termbin nc 9999'
[10:32] <thinky> hi there
[10:33] <Roey> hello, I did a do-release-upgrade and got this error: https://pastebin.com/mDEMnUza  I have 41 GB of space though!! what gives
[10:33] <Roey> ?
[10:34] <thinky> is there repository for gnome tweak tool?
[10:34] <jatt> Roey: what does df -h say?
[10:36] <Roey> /dev/sda1       879G  833G   46G  95% /
[10:36] <Roey> jatt: that
[10:36] <Roey> on BTRFS
[10:36] <EriC^> Roey: 5% is full, the last 5% is reserved for root
[10:37] <EriC^> Roey: nevermind
[10:38] <Roey> EriC^: ahh, thanks for letting me know.. so now I have:
[10:38] <Roey> /dev/sda1       879G  819G   60G  94% /
[10:38] <Roey> after removing 15 GB
[10:38] <Roey> 6%
[10:38] <jatt> and df -i?
[10:38] <Roey> /dev/sda1              0      0         0     - /
[10:38] <Roey> er.
[10:38] <Roey> uh-oh.
[10:39] <stvn> bionic beaver.........
[10:39] <Roey> heh
[10:39] <stvn> bionic beaver.........
[10:39] <Roey> so what do I do to re-start the do-release-upgrade from where it left off?
[10:40] <Roey> stvn: Furry Force!
[10:40] <stvn> i'm at a loss for words
[10:40] <jatt> that's the output of df -i for /dev/sda1?
[10:40] <Roey> ya
[10:40] <Roey> and everything else on this BTRFS filesystem
[10:40] <Roey> like /home
[10:40] <Roey> and /arch (my media)
[10:41] <Roey> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:41] <Roey> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[10:41] <Roey> so, ok I guess..
[10:42] <jatt> I see, might be btrfs related
[10:42] <Roey> yeah
[10:42] <jatt> looks like df says something but btrfs thinks the disk is full
[10:42] <Roey> ok
[10:43] <Roey> thanks btw
[10:43] <jatt> try the sudo dpkg --configure -a thing and see if it goes further
[10:43] <Roey> in dpkg --configure -a, I get tons of these: dpkg: error processing package libavahi-client3:i386 (--configure):
[10:43] <Roey>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[10:44] <Hamilton> I want to dual boot win7 and ubuntu...I plan to install embedded toolchain utilities in ubuntu (GCC/vim/make) and things like Eclipse ...How much space should I allocate to it
[10:44] <Roey> jatt: can I reboot (hopefully it will reboot) and do dpkg --configure -a again?
[10:44] <Roey> jatt: maybe that will fix the remaining issues with the aboev?
[10:44] <Roey> above*
[10:45] <Roey> residual errors: https://pastebin.com/YWbP50dh
[10:46] <jatt> not sure, but you can try, to me the filesystem looks hosed. have you always used btrfs on that machine?
[10:46] <Roey> jatt: just as of the past few years
[10:47] <Roey> jatt: btw now I am doing "sudo apt --fix-broken install
[10:47] <Roey> "
[10:48] <lapaga> Roey, what version did you have?
[10:48] <Roey> 17.10
[11:05] <dsuch> Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. I'm diagnosing a certain situation with ssh and I'm unable to make the daemon to log anything anywhere. LogLevel is DEBUG3, SyslogFacility is AUTH, I can see in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf that auth should go to /var/log/auth but there is nothing about ssh there. I did restart ssh and rsyslog services. In general, this is a stock Ubuntu system, I have never customized anything wrt logging / syslog.
[11:06] <dsuch> Does someone perhaps have an idea how to deal with it? Thanks.
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:10] <tomreyn> dsuch: maybe the ssh server your client is talking to isn't the one you've reconfigured?
[11:11] <tomreyn> i.e. a different sshd on the same system, or a different sshd on a different system
[11:11] <tomreyn> you can also run sshd in foreground and strace it.
[11:11] <dsuch> tomreyn: It is the one, I already run ssh -vvv on client end, it is only about logging, the background is that I can connect for exactly 10 seconds and then the connection is dropped, I can repeat it alright each time. I want to check sshd debug logs and then send a ticket to networking people if it is they who drop the connections somehow or work on it on my end.
[11:11] <Roey> BluesKaj: oh hi!
[11:11] <tomreyn> lsof -i :22 to see incoming connections (if it's on port 22)
[11:11] <dsuch> tomreyn: I understand all what you say but it is only about logging, really.
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hi Roey
[11:12] <Roey> jatt, lapaga: so I (begrugingly) liberated many gigabytes and re-ran all the commands
[11:12] <Roey> *begrudgingly
[11:13] <Roey> argh! I still get no space left on device!
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Roey, df -H | pastebinit
[11:14] <tomreyn> dsuch: well then the only other explanation i can think of is a typo in sshd_config
[11:15] <tomreyn> (or a non ubuntu sshd)
[11:15] <dsuch> tomreyn: A typo?
[11:15] <tomreyn> dsuch: you might have mistyped some instructions in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[11:15] <dsuch> tomreyn: I have not :)
[11:16] <dsuch> tomreyn: It trully, really only is about logging, nothing else.
[11:16] <dsuch> tomreyn: sshd is actually quite nice and refuses to start in case of such typos.
[11:16] <dsuch> tomreyn: But I have an idea, I will run a separate sshd daemon on another port in foreground.
[11:17] <Sven_vB> what's a good tool to decode hex tuplets into octets? like reverse hexdump. for small data I usually use printf and insert lots of \x, but now I'd need that as a stream like base64 --decode but for base16.
[11:18]  * Sven_vB reads about xxd
[11:19] <Roey> cfhowlett: I'd paste it but firefox isn't working because of the broken install.  So I liberated (errg) yet more dozens of GBs
[11:19] <Roey> and re-ran dpkg --configure -a and apt --fix-broken install and apt-get dist-upgrade.. it's running now, let's see it finish successfully
[11:19] <cfhowlett> Roey, then do df -H          and see what partition is at 100% use.  If it's boot *as I suspect) you need to clean kernels
[11:20] <Roey> Preparing to unpack .../06-libkf5grantleetheme-plugins_17.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ...
[11:20] <Roey> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[11:20] <Roey>  unable to install updated status of 'libkf5grantleetheme-plugins': No space left on device
[11:20] <Roey> cfhowlett: it's not that though
[11:20] <cfhowlett> OK ,,, I tried
[11:20] <Roey> thanks :) :)
[11:21] <dsuch> tomreyn: sshd -t -f /path/to/config will validate it (as an aside)
[11:22] <sg90> Hi, I have a broken symlink that I am struggling to fix/remove. It can't be chown'ed or chmoded. Trying to point it to a new directory with "ln -s latest new" doesnt work https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JycBJC37ZQ/
[11:23] <Sven_vB> anyone else who needs base16 --decode: xxd -revert -plain
[11:29] <Roey> dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
[11:29] <Roey>  unable to install updated status of 'gtk-update-icon-cache': No space left on device
[11:29] <Roey> such BS!  df -h says: /dev/sda1       879G  772G  107G  88% /
[11:30] <Roey> cfhowlett, jatt, lapaga, BluesKaj: ^
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Roey, separate / and /home partitions?
[11:31] <cfhowlett> Roey, sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt purge                           if you haven't done so already
[11:31] <Roey> BluesKaj: btrfs
[11:31] <Roey> sudo apt purge: E: Problem renaming the file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin.uDmlDu to /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - rename (28: No space left on device)
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Roey, sorry , no experience with those exotic FSs
[11:32] <Roey> BluesKaj: BTRFS swallows up all the different volumes into one filesystem
[11:32] <cfhowlett> same same
[11:33] <Roey> cfhowlett: ok
[11:33] <Roey> thanks anyway :)
[11:33] <BluesKaj> no matter Roey, dunno how to help, I'm an ext4 user
[11:33] <Roey> ok
[11:33] <Roey> the solution is move from a 1 TB device to a 2 TB device
[11:33] <jatt> Roey: http://marc.merlins.org/perso/btrfs/post_2014-05-04_Fixing-Btrfs-Filesystem-Full-Problems.html
[11:33] <Roey> or (wooo) *TWO* 2TB devicews
[11:33] <jatt> maybe that helps?
[11:33] <Roey> thank you, jatt
[11:33] <Roey> I'll take a look at it
[11:34] <Roey> (when I can usefirefox)
[11:34] <jatt> and https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Problem_FAQ#I_get_.22No_space_left_on_device.22_errors.2C_but_df_says_I.27ve_got_lots_of_space
[11:34] <blackflow> Roey: srsly? I'd think the solution would be to stop using that garbage fs.
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !btrfs | Roey
[11:34] <Roey> ah
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Roey, stop fooling around with stuff that's edgy, you end up regretting it
[11:36] <Roey> btrfs edgy? pffft.  But point well taken.  I'll use ext4 from now on.
[11:36] <tomreyn> there's also df -i
[11:36] <BluesKaj> unless of course you havea astable backupo system
[11:36] <blackflow> which isn't also btrfs :)
[11:36] <BluesKaj> er stable backup system
[11:37] <blackflow> Roey: assuming you used btrfs for its advanced features, ZFS works mighty fine, so take a look at that.
[11:38] <BluesKaj> blackflow, don't encourage him, he''l just be back with more issues :-0
[11:40] <Roey> blackflow: I did
[11:40] <Roey> blackflow: also, for the ability to add more space (iroically) easier
[11:41] <blackflow> BluesKaj: far less than with btrfs, if any, actually.
[11:47] <BluesKaj> blackflow, i don't see any advantages to ZFS for ordinary home users like me. I run a simple media server off an outboard drive thru this pc to a HT system. Otherwise everything else is very ordinary and straight forward.
[11:48] <Sven_vB> the btrfs wiki page should get a section about risks and gotchas.
[11:48] <blackflow> BluesKaj: snapshots, compression, data checksumming.
[11:49]  * BluesKaj shrugs, dunno how that can help me :-)
[11:50] <jatt> ubuntu shouldn't even ship btrfs as option, is simply not mature enough
[11:50] <blackflow> BluesKaj: zfs snapshots rpool@before-backup;   apt upgrade ; .... (system breaks) ;  zfs rollback ...
[11:50] <blackflow> BluesKaj: also using zfs send|recv is simple and very powerful backup system
[11:51] <blackflow> and compression, i'm getting 2GB extra "free" RAM on filesystem cache due to it.
[11:51] <Sven_vB> BluesKaj, checksums can tell you whether your files still have the data they shall have. it's a good thing to check before replacing a good backup with broken data. ;) that said, git-annex will do that for you anyway.
[11:52] <Sven_vB> blackflow, does "free" mean you pay for it with CPU cycles?
[11:52] <blackflow> and what Sven_vB said about checksums. Unless you have redundancy, it will only tell you where the problem is (unlike having no checksums at all), but if you ahve redundancy, even if using copies=2 on single disk, it will heal automatically.
[11:52] <blackflow> Sven_vB: no
[11:52] <blackflow> lz4 is very efficient
[11:52] <blackflow> (okay, technically yes, but it's insignificant)
[11:52] <Sven_vB> especially with redundancy, you'd want checksums to know which copy not to rely on.
[11:53] <Sven_vB> yeah ok git-annex can only tell you whether the file as a whole is broken, not where.
[11:54] <nicofrand> Hi. I have those errors when tailing /var/log/syslog : https://code.nicofrand.eu/?8952fe23ef6f50ce#sS696Zsn85cS9+YmQPiVZnRC7FQRWwwxUxuP1zpAaG0=. Does that mean I have an issue with one of my disks?
[11:55] <conjo> hi all will i need to do anything special to enable dcc acceptence when runing hexchat on ubuntu
[11:55] <BluesKaj> blackflow, I do have redundancy with data backups on 2 other computers on my network
[11:56] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, I won't let your site render JavaScript in my browser, but if you doubt your disks, it's always a good idea to review their SMART data and run selftests.
[11:56] <blackflow> BluesKaj: but in case of bitrot or other kind of corruption, how can you tell it occurred?
[11:56] <blackflow> do you regularly run hash checks on all your files?
[11:57] <`whoami`> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8iupdz/caution_the_are_malware_snaps_in_ubuntu_snaps/
[11:57] <nicofrand> Sven_vB I can't. My disks are in a ICY BOX and it seems self-tests are not supported
[11:57] <Sven_vB> what's an Icy Box?
[11:57] <vasanth> xenial - trouble with display - cannot set max resolution permissible on my display - help? tips?
[11:58] <Sven_vB> anyway, if you can't run SMART self tests, I'd consider that in itself a serious problem with your disks.
[11:58] <`whoami`> So it seems ubuntu doesn't have some kind of security team checking what's put in their 'repository' ?
[11:58] <nicofrand> Sven_vB an external USB box where I put my disks
[11:58] <blackflow> `whoami`: well now, that's a "well duh" kind of thing, innit :) it'll only happen more.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> blackflow,  why would I worry about bit rot?
[11:58] <nicofrand> Sven_vB would pastebin.com be ok ?
[11:59] <blackflow> BluesKaj: because it's more prevalent than people think
[11:59] <`whoami`> blackflow: sorry, what's a "well duh" and what does "innit" mean ?
[11:59] <`whoami`> sorry, english isn't my mother tongue
[11:59] <conjo> lol
[11:59] <conjo> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:59] <nicofrand> Sven_vB https://pastebin.com/w8eyJrs4
[11:59] <blackflow> `whoami`: it means, that's not unexpected.
[11:59] <conjo> init init
[11:59] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, would be acceptable, but I'd prefer http://paste.ubuntu.com/ or any other pastebin that can just give plain text files without captchas.
[12:00] <`whoami`> blackflow: ah :/
[12:00] <nicofrand> Sven_vB https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TccDDRQ8tb/
[12:01] <Sven_vB> so the syslog message in quesion is "SError: { DevExch }"… my gut doesn't think that's an error at all
[12:01] <nicofrand> oh
[12:01] <nicofrand> I really don't understand what it says
[12:02] <Sven_vB> "Device presence has changed" https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Libata_error_messages
[12:02] <Sven_vB> if it occurrs repeatedly, I'd suspect a loose cable
[12:02] <nicofrand> ah thanks, nice link
[12:02] <Sven_vB> if it only occurrs a few times at startup, I'd think the device changed its mode and re-registered
[12:02] <nicofrand> it occurs repeatedly indeed
[12:04] <nicofrand> the cable to the box is OK, that might be an issue with the box itself then?
[12:05] <Sven_vB> I suspect cables inside the box, since the change of presence occurs only on SATA level, not in USB.
[12:05] <`whoami`> blackflow: so is it safe to believe snaps are pretty much "insecure" ?
[12:06] <`whoami`> if so, it should be some kind of red blinking text on the homepage stating so
[12:06] <nicofrand> Sven_vB there are actually no (visible) cables :/
[12:07] <lapaga> hard disk controller?
[12:07] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, independent, monitor whether the change in presence causes partitions to dis-/reappear at about the same time: inotifywait --monitor /dev/disk/by-id/
[12:08] <Sven_vB> lapaga, an "icy box"
[12:09] <Sy-0> z
[12:09] <nicofrand> lapaga https://www.amazon.com/Raidsonic-System-eSATA-BOX-20621-SINGLE/dp/B00I3M72HG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1526126973&sr=8-1&keywords=Icy+Box+IB-RD3620SU3 but I don't use the RAID
[12:11] <conjo> how do i make hexchat run with elevated permissions eg to accept xdcc dcc lists
[12:12] <conjo> ubuntu 16.04
[12:12] <conjo> is it gksudo hexchat?
[12:12] <nicofrand> Sven_vB I launched the inotifywait command. Nothing appears after "Watches established" for now. How long should I wait? It does not need further user action, right?
[12:12] <Sven_vB> wow. for that price I'd expect a lot more product description. and why would it not be able to forward SMART when even my cheap (price of 1.5 burgers) USB SATA adapter can do it.
[12:13] <conjo> at present get a window pop up saying insufficent permissions
[12:13] <nicofrand> Sven_vB maybe I don't use smartmontools as expected. I could not find the device on https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices#idVendor0x1500 so I used "d sat" which returned something but might be incomplete
[12:14] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, if it's convienient to unplug the USB, you could do so to see how disappearing partitions will look like. then wait for the next SError: { DevExch } and see if partitions went away at the same time.
[12:15] <lapaga> hmmm item weight 5.4 pounds shipping weight 4.06 pounds guess shipping makes it lighter
[12:15] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, btw be warned the device paths you might see changing in inotify will probably contain your disk serial number after the model name, so you might want to replace that in case you share it.
[12:16] <Sven_vB> lapaga, :D they probably wrap it in helium-filled bubble wrap
[12:16] <nicofrand> Sven_vB https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s8bJ2GX2Vf/ unplugging it worked for inotifywait
[12:16] <nicofrand> oops
[12:16] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, that looks generic enough to just try smartctl --all /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WDC_WD30_EFRX-68AX9N0_0000000009BE-0:0
[12:16] <nicofrand> read you too late
[12:17] <nicofrand> Sven_vB "/dev/disk/by-id/usb-WDC_WD30_EFRX-68AX9N0_0000000009BE-0:0: Unknown USB bridge [0x152d:0x0569 (0x104)]"
[12:17] <Sven_vB> ok :(
[12:17] <nicofrand> and if I add "-d sat" I get  "SMART Self-test Log not supported"
[12:18] <Sven_vB> on a side note, what features do you use from that controller if not the RAID?
[12:18] <nicofrand> so, I don't really notice any issue, and inotifiywait does not seem to warn me, maybe that's ok? I am just afraid by the logs
[12:19] <nicofrand> Sven_vB I have a small computer where I can't put the disks. And the idea was that if I change of computer, I just have to plug it on the new one (or my laptop for example)
[12:19] <conjo> does anyone know why in ubuntu 16.04 i cant accept dcc lists with hexchat it wont let me save the files
[12:19] <nicofrand> and I'll eventually use the RAID, but that would require buying two new big disks
[12:20] <vasanth> Any help - my display switches to low resolution and i am unable to switch it.
[12:20] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, you could also do software raid on two cheap USB SATA adapters, one per disk
[12:21] <Sven_vB> vasanth, check whether proprietary graphics drivers are available in software update settings. also tell us which ubuntu version and which graphics card you use.
[12:21] <paul_> hello
[12:22] <Sven_vB> conjo, #hexchat
[12:22] <vasanth> Sven_vB: i am running 16.04(xenial) - and graphics: Intel® HD Graphics 620 (Kaby Lake GT2)
[12:23] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, as long as inotify doesn't see your partitions disappear, you can probably ignore the "presence changed".
[12:23] <nicofrand> Sven_vB I did not paid 300$ btw, but 88€ at the time
[12:23] <nicofrand> Sven_vB ok, thank you a lot
[12:23] <Sven_vB> you're welcome :)
[12:24] <vasanth> Sven_vB: there are no additional drivers listed in Software & Updates
[12:24] <nicofrand> one last question: is it still ok to see the partitions disappear from time to time (with several days between each notification) or not at all?
[12:24] <Sven_vB> nicofrand, if any of my disk partitions disappear w/o a good reason (like me unplugging a USB cable), I'd be horrified.
[12:25] <Sven_vB> and backup immediately because I'd expect the disks to fail any minute.
[12:25] <shiki> hai
[12:25] <nicofrand> ok
[12:25] <shiki> salam kenal
[12:26] <nicofrand> I now wonder if it could not be a driver issue or something like that, I never notice it before and I only upgraded to ubuntu 18.04 a few days ago
[12:26] <shiki> i am from indonesia
[12:26] <nicofrand> noticed*
[12:27] <Sven_vB> shiki, welcome!
[12:28] <conjo> uppah kupburrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:28] <shiki> sven_vB, speak indo?
[12:29] <conjo> saya chinta kamul
[12:29] <conjo> scully scully
[12:29] <shiki> saya benci kamu hahaja
[12:29] <ikonia> conjo: shiki English only please
[12:29] <shiki> ok
[12:29] <Sven_vB> !id @shiki
[12:29] <ikonia> thanks
[12:29] <conjo> saya ugut suka dior
[12:29] <Sven_vB> !id |shiki
[12:29] <shiki> My greetings from Indonesia
[12:30] <shiki> later I join there
[12:31] <shiki> saya masih ingin disini
[12:31] <conjo> i will never join you cant box me in neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[12:31] <Sven_vB> ChanServ can't make up its mind :D
[12:35] <shiki> hai hehe
[12:35] <shiki> quit
[12:36] <shiki> hai
[12:37] <shiki> i am indonesia
[12:37] <ikonia> shiki: enough
[12:37] <ikonia> stop
[12:37] <shiki> kaga ada alamat indonesia kah?
[12:38] <sonu_nk> dpkg: error processing package phpmyadmin (--configure):
[12:38] <sonu_nk>  this will kill me.. i am facing this in every package install
[12:38] <ikonia> sonu_nk: you're probably not for eveyr package, it just can't finish one package so blocking the rest
[12:39] <sonu_nk> ikonia, ya i knw. my system accidently off..
[12:39] <sonu_nk> so how to remove this issue ?
[12:39] <ikonia> I'm not sure what you just said
[12:39] <ikonia> try removing the unconfigured package
[12:39] <sonu_nk> ikonia, can you help me in command.. i am not much familer
[12:40] <ikonia> apt-get remove $package
[12:40] <ikonia> (or apt if you want to be new and trendy)
[12:40] <ikonia> or just use the gui
[12:41] <sonu_nk> thatt same i did lot of time.. let me share with you result
[12:41] <sonu_nk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/khjBPvKgHn/
[12:41] <sonu_nk> ikonia,
[12:41] <ikonia> so you have a lock file
[12:42] <ikonia> fuser -fuc /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !aptlock
[12:42] <ikonia> it's not an apt-lock by the look of it
[12:42] <ikonia> probably a debconf process
[12:42] <ikonia> it's a hung install holding the file open
[12:42] <ikonia> if the machine powered off
[12:43] <sonu_nk> ok got it..
[12:44] <sonu_nk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ykz9C49yY4/ ikonia
[12:45] <ikonia> sonu_nk: so those number are process numbers holding the file open
[12:45] <ikonia> kill those processes
[12:45] <ikonia> there is a scary ammount
[12:45] <ikonia> you may want to look at what they are
[12:46] <ikonia> (a reboot would also quickly fix them)
[13:01] <Cryterion> .
[13:02] <kiokoman> .
[13:02] <kiokoman> good, the dot on your keyboard is working fine
[13:03] <sonu_nk> ikonia, still i am in this issue.. its not getting solve..
[13:03] <ikonia> sonu_nk: that's ok - pastebin the error you currently get ?
[13:04] <sonu_nk> should i remove /var/cache folder ?
[13:05] <sonu_nk> and /var/crash folder ?
[13:10] <kiokoman> sonu_nk pls don't
[13:10] <ikonia> sonu_nk: sorry - I wasn't watching
[13:11] <ikonia> sonu_nk: can you pastebin the current error again please as I asked
[13:15] <troozers> Hoping somebody can help with a weird issue.  I have installed Ubuntu 18.04 on my laptop along with Virtualbox. Everything works OK, apart from when you launch a Virtual Guest. If the VM Guest window has focus I can't move it.  If another window has focus and I grab the VM Guest window.. I can move it.  This only happens with the VM Guest Window
[13:17] <hehehe> hi
[13:17] <hehehe> what is the way to install lubuntu on lenovo 100s?
[13:17] <hehehe> their bios wont allow usb boot..
[13:17] <ikonia> !install | hehehe
[13:18] <cfhowlett> hehehe, install virtualbox > ubuntu
[13:19] <hehehe> no
[13:19] <hehehe> it will be slow and mad
[13:19] <ikonia> looks like you can boot from usb on the 100s
[13:20] <hehehe> ikonia: how?
[13:21] <hehehe> I have got custom 32 iso it still wont boot
[13:21] <ikonia> looks like the efi impliemntation only supports 32bit installer
[13:21] <hehehe> i have 32 bit installer
[13:21] <hehehe> :)
[13:21] <ikonia> it's pretty well documented on the lenovo forums from lenovo staff
[13:21] <hehehe> but bios itself is crippled by lenovo
[13:21] <ikonia> no it's not
[13:21] <ikonia> it's not a great setup, but it's far from "crippled"
[13:22] <hehehe> ikonia: when I select booting device it show hdd only
[13:22] <hehehe> no usb
[13:22] <ikonia> yes, I understand that
[13:22] <hehehe> to boot from usb it have to boot from usb...
[13:22] <ikonia> if you READ the lenovo docs, it explains that
[13:22] <hehehe> emmm
[13:22] <hehehe> hates docs lol
[13:23] <ikonia> I don't find it funny
[13:23] <ikonia> read the docs
[13:23] <cfhowlett> this !  ^^^
[13:23] <ikonia> I just did to help you
[13:23] <hehehe> i will try to tread
[13:23] <ikonia> so if I can scan through it in 5 minutes to get the answer at a basic level and read, you should be able to get the more detailed answer in 30 minutes
[13:23] <hehehe> pls understnd I did read them before
[13:23] <hehehe> there is only 1 type of anser
[13:23] <hehehe> answer
[13:24] <hehehe> working one
[13:24] <hehehe> :)
[13:24] <hehehe> fine I will read mega crap lenovo docs
[13:27] <troozers> Anyone experience issues with moving Virtualbox VM guest window on Ubuntu 18.04?  Only happens on my laptop, doesn't happen on my main desktop pc
[13:33] <Sy-0> /mode Sy-0 +x
[13:37] <omarv> Hi All, Could someone help me with an issue ?: The mouse touchpad not working, it used to works,,but now I don't know what happens..
[13:38] <omarv> I'm using ubuntu 18.04
[13:40] <rakhanreturns> Hello all! I told Ubuntu 18.04 to remember the passphrase for my private SSH key but I want to make it so that I have to type it in each time. How can I change this?
[13:41] <tarzeau> i couldn't manage to change the top bar font of ubuntu 18.04 gnome shell :( even though i found two tutorials
[13:41] <rakhanreturns> I'm also getting this weird issue with "Permission denied (publickey)" but I'm still searching the internet for that one; this one has me stumped
[13:43] <feye> a little help here please
[13:44] <cfhowlett> feye, complete details please
[13:44] <brainwash> tarzeau: looks straightforward to me. what did you do exactly?
[13:49] <ben8472> ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com no longer working :(
[13:59] <Sven_vB> omarv, is there a touchpad in the output of "xinput --list"?
[14:02] <apache2notworkin> hello im using ubuntu linux and i have set up apache2 exactly as the manuals say. i have set up a crossover ethernet cable between the server and the client , like so, server 192.168.2.2, mask 24 and client 192,168.2.1 mask 24. no gateways or routes are set.
[14:03] <apache2notworkin> i can ping both machines and all firewalls are off
[14:03] <apache2notworkin> the client cant access the server
[14:03] <ikonia> apache2notworkin: what version of linux and what manual
[14:04] <Sven_vB> apache2notworkin, try whether netcat can connect: on the server, netcat -vvvvvlp 8080, on the client, netcat -vvvvv 192.168.2.2 8080
[14:04] <apache2notworkin> ubuntu 18.04
[14:04] <ikonia> apache2notworkin: what guide ?
[14:04] <ikonia> (or docs)
[14:04] <Sven_vB> apache2notworkin, after connect, lines typed into either netcat should show up in the other
[14:05] <ikonia> Sven_vB: why are you saying to hit it on 80 80
[14:05] <ikonia> 8080
[14:06] <Sven_vB> ikonia, I just made it up because hopefully port 80 is in use
[14:06] <ikonia> Sven_vB: yes, but you said 8080
[14:06] <apache2notworkin> netcat: connect to 192.168.2.2 port 8080 (tcp) failed: Connection refused > output from  the client
[14:06] <apache2notworkin> Listening on [0.0.0.0] (family 0, port 8080) > output from server
[14:07] <ikonia> apache2notworkin: use 80, not 8080
[14:07] <Sven_vB> apache2notworkin, I hope the messages were in reverse order :)
[14:07] <apache2notworkin> Connection to 192.168.2.2 80 port [tcp/http] succeeded!
[14:07] <apache2notworkin> thats what i get
[14:07] <Sven_vB> nice
[14:07] <Sven_vB> then what makes you think Apache doesn't work?
[14:08] <apache2notworkin> i cant view the webpage from server
[14:08] <ikonia> apache2notworkin: what docs are you following ?
[14:08] <apache2notworkin> when i type the server's ip on server browser i get the page but not on client side
[14:09] <apache2notworkin> ikonia a moment
[14:09] <Sven_vB> apache2notworkin, try printf '%s\r\n' 'GET / HTTP/1.1' 'Host: 192.168.2.2' 'Connection: close' '' | netcat -vvv 192.168.2.2 80 -q 3
[14:09] <apache2notworkin> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-16-04
[14:10] <apache2notworkin> https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_17.04&p=httpd&f=1
[14:10] <ikonia> so you're using 16.04 and 17.04 guides for 18.04 hosts ?
[14:11] <apache2notworkin> the configuration files are the same, so i figured they should work
[14:11] <ikonia> apache2notworkin: what do you see in your browser when you put the server IP into it
[14:12] <apache2notworkin> Sven_vB: sorry a moment please
[14:14] <apache2notworkin> okay i ran the command in client and i get a long output, it shows the html code for the welcome index page on host
[14:14] <omarv> Sven_vB: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GhC8sQbrKf/
[14:14] <Sven_vB> apache2notworkin, looks like your apache is working then.
[14:14] <Sven_vB> apache2notworkin, maybe your browser profile is broken?
[14:15] <Sven_vB> apache2notworkin, anyway, you can test vHosts by modifying the Host: header in that request, and the path part of the URL behind the GET.
[14:18] <apache2notworkin> my irc client froze for a moment there. Sven_vB  i have no idea what you just said, could you please rephrase perhaps
[14:18] <dedze> Hello, I am trying to do a fresh Ubuntu Install with CD (16.04) and wipe my current ubuntu install. I put the CD in my laptop and now I am on a menu (GNU grub version 2
[14:18] <dedze> 2.02), and I have three choices, *Ubuntu, Advanced options for Ubuntu and System setup. How to go from there to reinstalling Ubuntu from scratch?
[14:19] <dedze> I have tried to google for guides but all I can find is to do a first install, of ubuntu from windows
[14:20] <Sven_vB> apache2notworkin, looks like your apache is working then. your browser might be broken, but you can test vHosts with netcat, too. just modify the Host: header in the command from earlier, and if required also the path part of the URL behind the GET.
[14:20] <sonu_nk> ikonia, hi. sorry again thunderstrom and power gone.. i am looking at this issue again.. :)
[14:22] <Sven_vB> dedze, are you trying to install the regular desktop version of ubuntu?
[14:22] <apache2notworkin> Sven_vB:  oh okay ithink i get what you mean. thanks anyway
[14:22] <apache2notworkin> i may try a different browser then
[14:22] <dedze> Sven_vB: Yes, downloaded a while ago from the official ubuntu website
[14:23] <sonu_nk> ikonia, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XyNHhPvm8q/ here it is
[14:23] <Sven_vB> dedze, choose just Ubuntu then. that should start a live session (my grub calls that "Try Ubuntu") and on the desktop in the live session there should be an icon to start the installer.
[14:24] <Sven_vB> dedze, you can also install gparted and use that to arrange disks if you like. I prefer to do so because gparted shows me disk labels.
[14:25] <Sven_vB> partition labels rather
[14:25] <dedze> Sven_vB: Oki, I chose that, it asked me for the first password (cryptsetup thing), then ubuntu started normally, now I can see my useraccount and can login if I want
[14:25] <dedze> Sven_vB: I just want to wipe all data and reinstall ubuntu from scratch hehe
[14:26] <Sven_vB> dedze, if you needed a cryptsetup password, you probably ended up booting from hard disk instead of from the CD.
[14:26] <Sven_vB> dedze, do you have a spinning disk or a SSD?
[14:26] <dedze> Sven_vB: spinning disk I guess? The laptop cost 350€ hehe
[14:28] <dedze> Sven_vB: I tried system setup and it brings me to the BIOS
[14:28] <dedze> Sven_vB: I guess it has to be in Advanced options for Ubuntu
[14:28] <omarv> Sven_vB: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GhC8sQbrKf/
[14:28] <Sven_vB> dedze, it's important to make sure, because wiping methods for mag disks and SSDs are inefficient and/or insecure if tried on the other. you'll probably want to ask smartctl about your disk report, then see whether the disk reports its type (e.h. Media type: solid state disk) or something that sounds like "spin-up time" (in which case it probably spins).
[14:29] <ioria> dedze, your live cd it's not booting
[14:29] <Xard> snap version of gnome-calculator doesn't provide gnome shell search answers :(
[14:29] <Xard> i already wondered why the shell search didn't support quick calculation operations
[14:31] <dedze> Sven_vB: The harddisk is hdd, IDK what that means, is it relevant?
[14:31] <dedze> Sven_vB: I checked on the specs on amazon
[14:32] <Sven_vB> dedze, as said, I'd rather rely on the SMART report.
[14:32] <Sven_vB> dedze, background details: a spinning HDD might not support the Secure Erase command. no problem, you can just overwrite data. with a SSD, an attempt to overwrite data is likely to write in the wrong places and leave old data intact because the SSD lies about how big it is. it will also waste time and device lifespan, where as secure erase would have been really fast and have a much better chance to actually erase the old data.
[14:34] <Sven_vB> maybe not actually erase, but make it reeeeally expensive, and error prone, to recover.
[14:34] <sonu_nk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xCDBWc8h3m/ i am not getting wht to do with this issue..
[14:34] <ikonia> sonu_nk: told you - remove the package
[14:35] <Sven_vB> sonu_nk, alternatively, you could try and manually configure phpmyadmin.
[14:35] <sonu_nk> ikonia, what was the command.. when i am killing the process then my system giving black screen.. and then i need to restart else it not working..
[14:35] <Sven_vB> (and then remove it in order to manually install it onto your webspace because that's much easier. :D)
[14:35] <ikonia> sonu_nk: I told you to check the processes that where holding that file open
[14:38] <omarv> Sven_vB: file xorg.conf should be in directory /etc/X11 , /etc/X11/org.conf.d , or in /usr/share/X11 ??
[14:38] <qaz> how to read sqlite2 (the second, 2.1) file?
[14:39] <ioria> sonu_nk, sudo apt-get remove --purge phpmyadmin   gives the same error ?
[14:40] <Sven_vB> omarv, I've no idea. last time I tried to modify it, I discovered my ubuntu didn't seem to need that file anymore.
[14:40] <dedze> Sven_vB: You were right, it was not booting for the CD, I found how to boot from it :p
[14:45] <omarv> Sven_vB:What is the way to troubleshoot this issue?, not have working touchpad mouse, britghness & volume functionskeys either ...all seems to be related with X11
[14:46] <Sven_vB> omarv, I've no idea, maybe someone else can help.
[14:46] <kk4ewt> omarv,  what Desktop environment
[14:47] <omarv> ubuntu 18.04 , ubuntu environment
[14:47] <kk4ewt> which is gnome correct?
[14:48] <kk4ewt> look at the libinput driver
[14:51] <tle_> Hey everyone. I'm trying to setup an rsync backup script using the exclude-from option and a file containing a list of directories to exclude. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be working correctly. Here is the command: "rsync -av --delete --exclude-from '/home/tle/Scripts/rsyncbackup-exclude-list.txt' /home/tle /media/tle/backup" where the rsyncbackup-exclude-list.txt contains a line containing ".Skype". The problem is the .Skype
[14:51] <tle_> directory under /home/tle/ still gets copied to the backup. What am I doing wrong?
[14:53] <omarv> kk4ewt:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rqGqyt2JDF/
[14:54] <dedze> Sven_vB: I'm going, have a nice day
[14:56] <kiokoman> rsync -av --delete --exclude-from '/home/tle/Scripts/rsyncbackup-exclude-list.txt' --exclude /home/tle /media/tle/backup
[14:58] <kiokoman> omarv: do u have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed?
[14:59] <qwefytuiityty> android os on virtual machine this slow down, why? In virtual machine no gpu acceleration, i hope with wayland with ubuntu no on virtual machine this it won't be
[15:00] <diogenes74> guys im stuck in login loop
[15:00] <diogenes74> any easy fixes
[15:02] <diogenes74> nvm fixed it
[15:03] <diogenes74> for some reason it backed up my user directory and then cleared it
[15:06] <omarv> kiokoman: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is already the newest version (1.9.0-1ubuntu1)
[15:10] <kiokoman> omarv: some for xserver-xorg-input-libinput ?
[15:10] <kiokoman> same?
[15:17] <tle_> kiokoman: unfortunately that didn't work. it just resulted in more errors
[15:18] <Akuw> i am getting this when try to add new repos
[15:18] <Akuw> El repositorio «http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety Release» no tiene un fichero de Publicación.
[15:22] <pr3c0g> hey all, is there any free software to use windows and linux pcs with same keyboard/mouse? like synergy
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> pr3c0g: To the best of my knowledge, Synergy is the only cross platform tool for that purpose
[15:25] <yeats> !17.04 | Akuw
[15:25] <yeats> Akuw: sorry
[15:25] <yeats> !16.10 | Akuw - this is what I meant
[15:26] <Akuw> then what repo can i use?
[15:26] <yeats> Akuw: so if you're running 16.10, you need to upgrade to a supported release
[15:26] <omarv> kiokoman:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pR3fHNs6v3/
[15:29] <pragmaticenigma> Akuw: there are no repos that will support 16.10. You can attempt to run "sudo do-release-upgrade" to see if your system can update to the next/latest supported version. which will udpate the repos to supported versions.
[15:29] <Akuw> ok
[15:30] <Akuw> An upgrade from 'yakkety' to 'artful' is not supported with this
[15:30] <Akuw> tool.
[15:30] <Akuw> damm
[15:31] <fddsafsd> hi
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> Akuw: Unfortunately when an installed version of Ubuntu gets too far behind, the best option is to back up your data and install fresh
[15:31] <fddsafsd> how do I configure apple trackpads for ubuntu 17.10 ?
[15:31] <fddsafsd> no tapping, no gestures or anything work. I have libinput and xorg options apparently but it doesn't work
[15:32] <Akuw> hehehehe i guess that
[15:32] <kiokoman> tle_: rsync -av --delete --exclude-from '/home/tle/Scripts/rsyncbackup-exclude-list.txt' --exclude '/home/tle' /media/tle/backup
[15:32] <fddsafsd> and it doesnt show up in the system settings
[15:32] <kiokoman> tle_: tle_: it's working for me, what error do u have ?
[15:32] <fddsafsd> do I have to format my computer
[15:32] <fddsafsd> or ?
[15:33] <tle_> kiokoman: I found a suggestion elsewhere to not save the exclusion file as UTF8 and that seemed to make it work? really strange.... Thanks for your help though!
[15:33] <pragmaticenigma> fddsafsd: Please try to post everything on line, it will make it easier for everyone to read. also, if someone has an answer, they will respond, if no one knows, no one will answer. Please be patient and avoid repeating your question too frequently
[15:35] <kiokoman> omarv: how about /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> fddsafsd: Apple products are supported; however, the newer the machine or device, the less likely a component will work out of the box. Is this for a macbook? is it the apple magic trackpad?
[15:37] <Akuw> back to Debian :)
[15:38] <fddsafsd> it's for a magic trackpad, I see the devices getting recognised and in the log it says it's using libinput for these devices
[15:38] <pragmaticenigma> fddsafsd: 1st edition or 2nd edition
[15:40] <fddsafsd> 2nd
[15:40] <fddsafsd> I've configured the xorg conf files with correct matchers and I've logged out and back, nothing changed though \
[15:41] <fddsafsd> afaik that doesn't restart the Xorg, maybe I should restart PC instead ?
[15:41] <omarv> kiokoman:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JSRbsK35bG/
[15:41] <pragmaticenigma> fddsafsd: logging out and back in usually triggers a refresh of X, but a reboot is worthy of a try.
[15:42] <fddsafsd> ok thanks
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> fddsafsd: Otherwise I'm not certain, all the information I can find is for older versions of Ubuntu
[15:42] <pragmaticenigma> darn
[15:44] <fddsafsd> that didn't work at all...
[15:44] <pragmaticenigma> fddsafsd: Otherwise I'm not certain, all the information I can find is for older versions of Ubuntu :-/
[15:44] <fddsafsd> hmm ok
[15:44] <ioria> i don't think it's usable out of the box atm
[15:45] <pragmaticenigma> ioria: some day hopefully
[15:45] <ioria> yes
[15:46] <BionicMac> fddsafsd: I believe you are out of luck on that Magic Trackpad 2. I have one and I can provide you with some links, but it is not straight-forward.
[15:46] <ioria> for wired only there is https://github.com/rozza/magictrackpad2-dkms/tree/artful
[15:47] <BionicMac> fddsafsd: If you get gestures working.. let me know please. =) Let me find those links for you. give me a few minutes please.
[15:47] <fddsafsd> sure, any link appreciated
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> The good news is there is enough interest that people are working on it
[15:48] <ahri> on ubuntu 18.04 is there some way to change my default WM? I'm looking for a "Login" configuration but not finding one; I wantt o switch it back to i3 after an upgrade
[15:57] <matjam> ahri: it should be on the login screen
[15:57] <matjam> a cog icon
[16:01] <omarv> kiokoman:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JSRbsK35bG/
[16:02] <BionicMac> fddsafsd: I call the file trackpadhell.txt -> https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/SbZQeiMXaFK3wge <- I haven't had time to try all the hacks. Let me know please. Good luck.
[16:03] <BionicMac> fddsafsd: forgive me, the txt file is ugly, straight out of bookmarks-manager.
[16:09] <BionicMac> fddsafsd: It's actually a kernel thing. Here the bloody truth: Magic Trackpad *not* recognized as trackpad. -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/852480/magic-trackpad-2-is-not-recognized-as-synpatic-touchpad - there is a kernel patch on github you will find in that link and others I sent.
[16:10] <BionicMac> fddsafsd: May the force be with you.
[16:13] <BionicMac> fddsafsd: Here is a direct link to wht I think is your best bet: https://github.com/robbi5/magictrackpad2-dkms
[16:22] <omarv> Hi all. could someone help me with this issue : Mouse touchpad not working anymore, as well as functions keys that control brightness and volume. It used to worked when Ubuntu 18.04 was installed last week. There is any way to follow a troubleshouting ?
[16:22] <omarv> need I to reinstall Ubuntu, or is possible to fix it ?
[16:23] <BionicMac> omarv: You may look at Xorg.0.log to get a hint. Or Ubuntu GUI settings.
[16:23] <jswift> omarv: you could list your ~/.config and ~/.local files, and sort them by date modified. to see what setting got changed and when. or maybe a rogue update killed some driver config. dunno.
[16:25] <BionicMac> jswift: good thought. If worse comes to worse make a new clean user and login as nwe user at graphical login. If it works as the new user, no need to reinstall. Look at the files suggested by jswift. <- omarv
[16:26] <omarv> ok, I will check it..
[16:33] <unkn-error> HELLO !!! CAN SOMEONE HELP ME INSTALL THE VGA DRIVERS FOR MY LAPTOP?
[16:33] <lakori>    
[16:34] <unkn-error> HERE IS THE PASTEBIN FOR lspci OF MY LAPTOP
[16:34] <unkn-error> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/dYWvCBwfhb/
[16:35] <unkn-error> THE SECOND MONITOR WORKS ONLY IN 1078X784 RESOLUTION, I GUESS BECAUSE OF ATI/AMD MISSING DRIVERS
[16:35] <matjam> unkn-error: could you turn off caps lock please?
[16:35] <unkn-error> ok
[16:35] <unkn-error> it is harder to read if text is small, but ok.
[16:36] <unkn-error> my uname -a is " https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/dYWvCBwfhb/ " / it is a ubuntu Mate
[16:36] <unkn-error> Bionic
[16:36] <matjam> ok
[16:37] <matjam> if you open software & updates, is there any additional drivers you can install there?
[16:37] <matjam> in the "additional drivers" tab
[16:37] <unkn-error> nope - none
[16:37] <matjam> the main display is working ok though?
[16:37] <unkn-error> " no proprietary drivers are in use. "
[16:38] <unkn-error> mmm it seems to be fine, but let me chech the resolution
[16:38] <unkn-error> yes it is okay, it starts with 1366
[16:38] <unkn-error> the laptop display - which is 15 or 16 inch - smaller
[16:39] <metrum> Hello! How can I reinstall 16.04 from the terminal? I got the 'system is running on low graphics mode' and I cant fix it.
[16:39] <unkn-error> the big screen instead - secondary display is bigger - 22 inch I guess, but the resolution is smaller
[16:39] <matjam> can you do "sudo apt -i install inxi; sudo inxi -tcm10 -v7 -z -c0 -r apt | pastebinit"
[16:40] <matjam> it will generate a system report that is sanitized with no personal information
[16:40] <fotonzade> fellas can we install ubuntu on a disk that we partition and keep the data on it?
[16:40] <matjam> and paste the url here
[16:40] <matjam> fotonzade: yes
[16:41] <matjam> fotonzade: the installer can resize partitions
[16:41] <fotonzade> matjam, the pc has an ssd and an hdd, the ssd has windows and is p full, the hdd just has random data
[16:41] <fotonzade> ah cool
[16:41] <unkn-error> matjam, apt -i install inxi; sudo inxi -tcm10 -v7 -z -c0 -r apt | pastebinit
[16:41] <unkn-error> E: Command line option 'i' [from -i] is not understood in combination with the other options.
[16:41] <unkn-error> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vzNm337s2W/
[16:41] <matjam> ah, sorry it was -y
[16:41] <unkn-error> apt -y install inxi; sudo inxi -tcm10 -v7 -z -c0 -r apt | pastebinit
[16:41] <unkn-error> ^^ like that?
[16:42] <matjam> yeah
[16:42] <unkn-error> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cjG2wnZXJJ/
[16:42] <unkn-error> done
[16:42] <matjam> ta
[16:42] <matjam> gimme a bit
[16:42] <unkn-error> take your time & thank you for help
[16:43] <matjam> ah its one of those dual video laptops
[16:43] <matjam> onboard integrated plus a discrete ATI Radeon chip
[16:44] <unkn-error> it is this one https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-G510-Notebook-Review.117221.0.html
[16:45] <matjam> it looks like it's choosing to use the radeon chip for the display, but its using the built-in radeon driver
[16:45] <matjam> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-latest-amd-radeon-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[16:46] <matjam> I would use the PPA approach
[16:46] <matjam> on that page
[16:46] <matjam> ahhh no proprietary driver has been released for 18.04 yet
[16:46] <matjam> thats why
[16:47] <matjam> so yeah I wouldn't install that PPA
[16:47] <unkn-error> hmmzzz :)
[16:47] <matjam> https://support.amd.com/en-us/download/linux has a pre-release driver for you
[16:47] <matjam> so you could follow that page I linked before, on linuxconfig.org, and use that driver
[16:47] <unkn-error> should I use the driver from ati / amd webpage which is for a older ubuntu? (14.04 - I guess)
[16:48] <unkn-error> Distributions supported:  Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS, 14.04.2
[16:48] <oerheks> unkn-error, use this wiki for adding radeon to grub, so it loads > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.modeset=1" >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[16:48] <oerheks> no need for external drivers, those are unsupported
[16:48] <unkn-error> ok
[16:48] <matjam> good to know, thatns oerheks
[16:48] <matjam> *thanks
[16:48]  * matjam is rusty with radeon stuff
[16:49] <oerheks> you might want to check your bios too, to set AMD as primairy ..
[16:49] <unkn-error> oerheks, so what do I do with grub exactly?
[16:49] <unkn-error> in bios I have only 2 settings - enable or disable amd
[16:49] <unkn-error> if I disable amd will go very slow in windows
[16:50] <unkn-error> I am dual booting
[16:50] <unkn-error> mbr hdd + csm enabled
[16:51] <matjam> unkn-error: in /etc/default/grub find GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and add radeon.modeset=1 to the end, then run update-grub
[16:51] <matjam> as root
[16:51] <matjam> try that first you may not need to modify bios settings
[16:55] <unkn-error> matjam, https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/yYrSZSyfYP/
[16:55] <unkn-error> ok done
[16:56] <unkn-error> I will reboot, if it will boot I will come back on chat to confirm. If it dose not boot up, I will NOT come back on freenode chat
[16:56] <matjam> cool, after you run update-grub, give it a reboot, and then see how you go
[16:56] <matjam> lol what does that mean
[16:56] <matjam> "i'm done with ubuntu!" haha
[16:58] <laptop> anyone know how to dual boot android x86 and ubuntu
[16:59] <bosphus2> trying to install bitwarden snap with command "sudo snap install bitwarden" per instructions and get "snap 'bitwarden' not found"
[16:59] <unkn-error> matjam, it is like before.
[17:00] <unkn-error> So I guess I will need to downgrade the ubuntu
[17:00] <matjam> ah you might need to do the bios thing then, sorry. Or that.
[17:00] <matjam> You could try the proprietary drivers but as oerheks said, they're not supported.
[17:01] <matjam> those hybrid graphics notebooks are tricky beasts
[17:01] <unkn-error> yep, just that they might break the system down, as AMD say ubuntu 14 and this ubuntu is 18
[17:01] <matjam> I try to avoid them if I'm running linux.
[17:01] <unkn-error> : )) tricky beast
[17:01] <unkn-error> it was cheap
[17:01] <unkn-error> and works on games
[17:01] <unkn-error> that was the reason
[17:02] <matjam> tweak the bios before you boot windows/linux
[17:02] <matjam> if you're not switching constantly its no big deal
[17:02] <matjam> I wonder if there's other options but you've exhausted my knowledge there I'm afraid.
[17:02] <unkn-error> ok, I will try that first then, I will try to see if the old drivers will break the new operating sys
[17:02] <unkn-error> thank you for support
[17:02] <unkn-error> bye bye :)
[17:04] <oguz> hey, so i'm going to install ubuntu with windows -and keep windows also-. I have a 128 ssd and an hdd. the windows is on the ssd and it is almost full so I need to install linux in the hdd but there are files there as well. How do I go about doing this without damaging the files in the hdd?
[17:05] <matjam> oguz: you should make a full backup before you start anything
[17:06] <oguz> okay, good idea
[17:06] <matjam> oguz: installing linux on an almost full drive will probably be difficult unless you can free some of that space
[17:06] <matjam> oguz: the ubuntu installer can do resize using gparted
[17:07] <oguz> matjam, i want to install linux on hdd which is mostly empty. sdd is full which has windows in it
[17:07] <matjam> oh I see
[17:07] <matjam> well, take a full backup anyway
[17:08] <matjam> then use gparted to resize the partition on the hdd, and you can install there
[17:08] <oguz> alright. I read something about windows updates corrupting files when gparted is used, anything I should do regarding that? matjam
[17:09] <matjam> as you're not touching your system partition, I wouldn't think that's an issue
[17:09] <oguz> cool, thanks a lot
[17:09] <matjam> also I dual boot windows, and I've never had an issue.
[17:09] <matjam> dont think I resized though
[17:09] <oerheks> "windows updates corrupting files when gparted is used" ... not true
[17:11] <stashingbucks> I want a VPN so I was thinking of just buying a linode and using htat
[17:11] <stashingbucks> Is it difficult to setup openvpn on ubuntu?
[17:12] <ikonia> no more / less than any other distro
[17:13] <axisys> which pkg gives me gnome-extensions?
[17:14] <axisys> under gnome-tweak -> Extensions I see only two extensions in default install of 18.04
[17:16] <SlidingHorn> axisys: the browser extensions?  If so, obviously install the add-on for your browser, then   sudo apt install chrome-gnome-shell
[17:18] <stan7> i cant open my usb in ubuntu i dont know why
[17:19] <SlidingHorn> stan7: version & flavor of ubuntu?
[17:19] <stan7> error mounting /dev/sdb.......
[17:19] <axisys> SlidingHorn: no .. there is a gnome-extension pkg I installed earlier.. but this is a new build and I forgot the name.. there are a few.. but I want the right one .. I need to bring in few features similar to unity. and someone either here on in #gnome channel gave me the pkg name.. did not same that discussion :-(
[17:21] <stan7> 	Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS
[17:21] <stan7> how can i open my usb?
[17:21] <vital> -hi
[17:21] <stan7> USB flash drive
[17:22] <existence> Hello. I'm new to MAAS/conjure-up but have managed to get some nodes deploying. I'm trying to reduce the amounts of nodes openstack deploys to, and ideally specify which nodes share which services. When using conjure-up to deploy openstack-kvm I see an advanced option for "units" but unsure how changing this affects the deployment or how services are allocated to nodes in MAAS?
[17:22] <SlidingHorn> axisys: sudo apt install gnome-shell-extensions
[17:23] <SlidingHorn> stan7: what is the full error?  (use a pastebin if it's more than one line please)
[17:25] <stan7> i havent used pastebin, wich one do you recommend?
[17:25] <SlidingHorn> existence: my understanding is that MAAS for ubuntu is a paid-support thing - I'm not saying you won't find someone to help, but it may be unlikely
[17:25] <SlidingHorn> stan7: paste.ubuntu.com
[17:27] <ledeni> axisys, check with sudo apt-cache gnome-shell-extension-* for gnome-shell-extensions
[17:28] <existence> Thanks, SlidingHorn. You can still use MAAS without support but any sort of support, Landscape management or HA are paid extras.
[17:28] <stan7> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VwmPdHbNXt/
[17:28] <ducasse> existence: you can try #maas
[17:28] <existence> Magic! Thanks ducasse.
[17:29] <stan7> SlidingHorn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VwmPdHbNXt/
[17:29] <existence> I think it's a conjure-up question to be honest but i'll give it a go.
[17:29] <SlidingHorn> stan7: sudo apt-get install exfat-fuse exfat-utils
[17:31] <stan7> thanks a lot, i already can enter to my usb flash drive, what did you do with that? i would like to understand how it works for next time
[17:33] <SlidingHorn> stan7: exfat is a proprietary filesystem that's not supported by default, so you have to install the package to use it
[17:35] <axisys> SlidingHorn: that was it! thank you and ledeni
[17:35] <bosphus2> trying to install bitwarden snap with command "sudo snap install bitwarden" per instructions and get "snap 'bitwarden' not found"
[17:35] <bosphus2> it doesnt say I need to enable some PPA or anything
[17:36] <stan7> SlidingHorn: thanks a lot
[17:37] <kostkon> bosphus2, what release are you on
[17:38] <bosphus2> 16.04 all updated
[17:40] <kostkon> bosphus2, snap info bitwarden  gives you the same?
[17:40] <bosphus2> error: no snap found for "bitwarden"
[17:42] <RustyShackelford> trying to install ubuntu server 18.04
[17:42] <kostkon> bosphus2, is it a 64bit install?
[17:42] <RustyShackelford> this desktop is not plugged into ethernet. I'm trying to install the OS in a different room and then once installed, I'll move it next to the router
[17:42] <bosphus2> no 32bit old laptop...is that the issue?
[17:43] <SlidingHorn> bosphus2: I believe so - only packages I see on their website are 64 bit
[17:43] <kostkon> bosphus2, uname -a
[17:43] <bosphus2> ah ok thanks...
[17:43] <RustyShackelford> I just want to install, then plug into ethernet and use it over ssh. Don't have a monitor near the router. Is it possible to skip the network connections step of the install?
[17:44] <ikonia> RustyShackelford: the default is dhcp
[17:44] <ikonia> RustyShackelford: so if your network has dhcp there is no network setup needed
[17:45] <RustyShackelford> so when I click Done, it times out waiting for a connection
[17:45] <RustyShackelford> I want this install to be performed offline
[17:45] <ikonia> click done where ?
[17:45] <RustyShackelford> Network connections page of the installer
[17:45] <ikonia> RustyShackelford: what install media are you using ?
[17:46] <RustyShackelford> ubuntu-18.04-live-server-amd64.iso
[17:46] <ikonia> live-server ?
[17:46] <ikonia> I've never seen that media
[17:46] <ikonia> thats the name or it, wow
[17:46] <ikonia> RustyShackelford: that shouldn't "need" the network
[17:47] <ikonia> the network is only if you want to get updates as part of the install
[17:47] <dedze> Hi, I just reinstalled ubuntu and I found this in my ufw.logs https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sghscyQzdg/  Is it normal that the firewall blocks things coming from other computer on the network or could it be an attack?
[17:48] <RustyShackelford> ikonia: yeah thats what I thought. But it won't let me proceed from this page after the network times out
[17:48] <dedze> BTW the other computer using the local ip : 192.168.1.4 is used by me too
[17:48] <ikonia> dedze: looks like a zeroconf network probe, it's fine
[17:48] <ikonia> RustyShackelford: there is an option that says "get updates" or something like that
[17:48] <dedze> ikonia: Oki thank you
[17:48] <ikonia> make sure thats not checked
[17:49] <RustyShackelford> I might try a different installer
[17:49] <RustyShackelford> this is just ncurses, not the full fledged UI installer
[17:49] <ikonia> I understand that
[17:56] <RustyShackelford> not finding any helpful advice on google
[18:00] <eraser> wake up Fleetwood
[18:00] <janat08> how to fit root not found in initramfs
[18:00] <janat08> fix*
[18:00] <kostkon> !details | janat08
[18:00] <RustyShackelford> ikonia: I don't see any options to download updates
[18:01] <ikonia> eraser: ?
[18:01] <RustyShackelford> I wonder if there's a like an advanced menu
[18:01] <janat08> i boot into initramfs with error that root isn't found in "etc/something"
[18:02] <janat08> i'm currently on live cd
[18:04] <janat08> in fstab
[18:05] <SlidingHorn> janat08: The exact error would make things easier for us to diagnose the issue
[18:07] <sere_> is there a way to port .deb packages over to use for android.
[18:08] <RustyShackelford> in the docs "If no network is found, the installer can continue anyway, it just won't be able to check for updates. You can always configure networking after installation."
[18:08] <RustyShackelford> so WHY CAN'T I PROCEED?
[18:09] <ioria> RustyShackelford, how did you do the usb media ?
[18:09] <sere_> RustyShackelford: is it just stuck like its loading? are you using usb?
[18:09] <RustyShackelford> created it with dd
[18:09] <RustyShackelford> sere_: when I press done, it tries to connect to the network and then fails
[18:09] <RustyShackelford> (its not plugged into ethernet, trying to do this offline)
[18:10] <RustyShackelford> and then I can't move beyond this page. Pressed done again will try to connect again, and then fail
[18:10] <ioria> RustyShackelford, it's a desktop ?
[18:11] <RustyShackelford> yeah its a desktop
[18:11] <ioria> RustyShackelford, ethernet integrated or pci ?
[18:11] <sere_> RustyShackelford: i had the same issue installing from usb and reformatting the usb and installing again worked.. but if your using a dd image i dunno
[18:12] <SlidingHorn> sere_: in short, no.  You'd have to compile from source and package it for android itself
[18:12] <janat08> SlidingHorn: root isn't found in etc/fstab, kick me into initramfs
[18:13] <RustyShackelford> ioria: integrated
[18:13] <RustyShackelford> it sees the device, thats not the problem
[18:13] <janat08> SlidingHorn: if i must I can try and choot into it again
[18:13] <RustyShackelford> although IIRC theres some extra firmware to install
[18:13] <sere_> SlidingHorn: oh ok thats what i thought.. i imagine snapd will be ported in a future or something.. thanks :)
[18:13] <ikonia> doubt it
[18:13] <sere_> i can wish though :)
[18:14] <janat08> SlidingHorn: prior to the boot to the initramfs it just gives me grub with "minimal bash-like..." without error
[18:14] <SlidingHorn> janat08: can you pastebin the /etc/fstab file?
[18:14] <RustyShackelford> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-server?_ga=2.83408213.297558350.1526147383-2081722532.1521951000#6
[18:14] <RustyShackelford> docs are no help
[18:14] <ioria> RustyShackelford, can you disable it in bios ? (sounds silly, i know)
[18:14] <RustyShackelford> probably. then try to go through the installer with no network devices available?
[18:15] <ioria> RustyShackelford, for now ... but as i said it's silly
[18:15] <RustyShackelford> its crazy enough to work
[18:16] <RustyShackelford> i'm still searching for some hidden menu maybe?
[18:16] <ioria> advanced
[18:16] <ioria> or expert mode idr)
[18:17] <sere_> RustyShackelford: you could maybe try a server install but choose desktop or whatever.. i believe it uses a console installer and it might give you a different outcome
[18:18] <RustyShackelford> sere_: i'm using the 18.04 server installer
[18:18] <sky887> Hello
[18:18] <RustyShackelford> i'm gonna try ioria's idea I guess
[18:20] <janat08> SlidingHorn: I don't actually have internet on live CD, but it says "/ was on /dev/mmcblk1p1 during installation followed by UUID, ext4, errors-remount-ro, 0, 1
[18:21] <RustyShackelford> ioria: same problem with no devices
[18:21] <RustyShackelford> the docs lied!
[18:22] <SlidingHorn> janat08: what kind of drive is this?
[18:22] <janat08> SSD, the grub/swap is on /dev/mmcbklk1p*
[18:22] <ioria> RustyShackelford, sorry about that
[18:23] <RustyShackelford> at this point I could have moved all the equipment closer to the router
[18:24] <ioria> RustyShackelford, i might suggest to dd again (with sync  at the end)
[18:24] <SlidingHorn> janat08: that doesn't sound right.  mmcblk* devices are SD cards usually
[18:24] <RustyShackelford> seems like a stab in the dark. the media seems to work fine
[18:24] <RustyShackelford> worth a shot I suppose
[18:24] <sere_> RustyShackelford: i second ioria suggestion.. it sounds like bad media
[18:24] <RustyShackelford> really? sounds like a bug in the installer
[18:25] <janat08> SlidingHorn: I suppose manufacturer calls that SSD
[18:25] <ioria> RustyShackelford, i know that the server installer got issues for years ... yes
[18:25] <sere_> RustyShackelford: yea maybe so
[18:26] <RustyShackelford> docs say I can proceed without configuring the network but I'm not seeing how
[18:27] <ioria> RustyShackelford, true, only mini.iso requires a connection
[18:28] <SlidingHorn> janat08: what kind of machine is it?
[18:28] <RustyShackelford> should I try the alternate installer maybe?
[18:29] <ioria> RustyShackelford, i might also suggest (if it fails again) the 16.04 iso .... what is the alternate installer  ?
[18:29] <janat08> SlidingHorn: 2-in-a
[18:29] <janat08> *1
[18:29] <SlidingHorn> ?
[18:29] <SlidingHorn> (was looking for something a little more specific
[18:30] <RustyShackelford> ioria: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04/release/?_ga=2.89243224.297558350.1526147383-2081722532.1521951000
[18:30] <janat08> SlidingHorn: switch 10 acer
[18:31] <ioria> RustyShackelford, sy, i don't see alternate  (i think it was dropped years ago, and only available for lubuntu)
[18:31] <krytarik> RustyShackelford: Yes, I would.
[18:33] <ikonia>   /win 10
[18:33] <ikonia> oops
[18:37] <SlidingHorn> ikonia: did ubuntu drop 32-bit for Bionic or is that Cosmic?
[18:37] <ioria> the last 32bit is xenial
[18:37] <SlidingHorn> janat08: That may be your problem - Everything I'm reading says that the switch 10 doesn't have a 64-bit UEFI
[18:38] <SlidingHorn> janat08: you could give it a try with Xenial (16.04) to see if you have more luck.  That's supported til 2021
[18:40] <janat08> SlidingHorn: I installed efi/grub 32bit
[18:45] <RustyShackelford> sweet
[18:45] <RustyShackelford> alternate installer lets me skip network config
[18:49] <janat08> would it be possible to just instal 64 bit eufi?
[18:50] <R13ose> I get this dialog showing up: Configuration file "/home/user/.config/kreadconfig5rc" not writeable.  What do I do?
[18:53] <pepebotella> hi
[18:53] <Bradski> Team. I'm trying to migrate from W7 to Ubuntu server but when I try and install on the old Windows SSD I get an error on install for invalid partition data
[18:53] <SlidingHorn> R13ose: are you logged in as "user"?
[18:54] <R13ose> SlidingHorn: yes
[18:54] <Bradski> I've tried wiping the partition with diskpart on a W7 install media USB, I've tried killing it with gpartd, I've even tried swearing and yelling at it. At this point any help/pointers/tips would be appreciated
[18:54] <SlidingHorn> R13ose: navigate to ~/.config and    ls -l | pastebinit     please
[18:55] <RustyShackelford> so now I'm configuring storage
[18:56] <RustyShackelford> I have an assortment of drives. Really I only need to separate /srv from /
[18:56] <RustyShackelford> maybe home also
[18:56] <RustyShackelford> should I congfigure something like zfs?
[18:58] <RustyShackelford> also wondering, do I have to set up all this stuff now, or can I install / on one drive and then partition everythng the way I like later?
[18:59] <gracious1>  /join #palemoon
[18:59] <gracious1> well that was stupid
[18:59] <Bradski> irc happens...
[19:00] <R13ose> SlidingHorn: the user I am using is test.  Output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gnfxDVMqQX/
[19:03] <SlidingHorn> R13ose: the error is looking in the /home/user/.config/  directory, not /home/test/.config/
[19:08] <R13ose> SlidingHorn: yes but I changed that by accident.  Should be test not user
[19:11] <Bradski> I have the install log here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KdCkkV2DHQ/
[19:14] <mindloop> VLC media player breaks when I try to use it: https://pastebin.com/CSM1NPmy
[19:16] <R13ose> SlidingHorn: still there?
[19:16] <ioria> mindloop, what version of ubuntu ?
[19:17] <mindloop> Bionic.
[19:17] <vavkamil> hello
[19:17] <SlidingHorn> R13ose: in a meeting at the moment
[19:18] <R13ose> Sorry
[19:18] <sere_> mindloop: is your sound configured?
[19:18] <mindloop> yes
[19:19] <vavkamil> I accidentally deleted "Downloads" folder and now I wan't it back in nautilus quick menu
[19:19] <ioria> mindloop, apt-cache policy vlc
[19:20] <janat08> how do i list partitions?
[19:20] <mindloop> ioria, https://pastebin.com/xkHQkwYF
[19:20] <janat08> I've done a reinstall, and trying to mount installed efi grub back into /boot/efi
[19:20] <sere_> vavkamil: mkdir /home/$USER/Downloads then just drag over
[19:21] <vavkamil> it was in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[19:21] <ioria> mindloop, do you have opencv  installed ?
[19:21] <vavkamil> drag and drop will create bookmark, but thank you
[19:23] <mindloop> ioria, what is the exact name of the package, i get: E: Unable to locate package opencv
[19:24] <sere_> mindloop: was it working before? you can reset the configs with: vlc --reset-config --reset-plugins-cache
[19:26] <ioria> mindloop, or try sudo apt install --reinstall vlc
[19:28] <mindloop> ioria, https://pastebin.com/GM2aptbA
[19:29] <mindloop> I did those things, but still get a crash
[19:29] <Bashing-om> janat08: Maybe like ' sudo parted -l ' .
[19:29] <ioria> mindloop, did you try  ' --reset-config --reset-plugins-cache' ?
[19:30] <mindloop> ioria, yes.
[19:30] <ioria> mindloop,  sudo apt install --reinstall vlc
[19:30] <RustyShackelford> I should just throw this computer away
[19:30] <RustyShackelford> I think the graphics card overheats? causing it to shut down while i'm trying to run the ubuntu installer
[19:30] <mindloop> ioria, yes, i did that too
[19:30] <oerheks> mindloop,  why starting vlc from terminal ??
[19:30] <ioria> he did
[19:30] <mindloop> oerheks, to see why it breaks
[19:31] <sere_> mindloop: its not gonna fix your problem but you could try to use snapd:  sudo snap install vlc
[19:31] <ioria> mindloop,  bumblebee or optimus ?
[19:32] <mindloop> ioria, AMD GPU PRO
[19:32] <ioria> ah
[19:32] <ioria> mindloop,  did it work before ?
[19:33] <mindloop> ioria, The install is recent, so no
[19:33] <mindloop> reinstal?
[19:34] <kostkon> mindloop, you could try the snap version as suggested
[19:34] <ioria> mindloop,  sy, i can only image that the AMD GPU PRO is the culprit ..
[19:34] <mindloop> kostkon, i did, still crashes
[19:34] <kostkon> mindloop, oh ok
[19:34] <ioria> mindloop,  why you needed it ? opensource not working ?
[19:35] <mindloop> ioria, No, opensource does not work, nor can it.
[19:35] <ioria> i see
[19:35] <mindloop> ioria, I am trying to do video editing on Linux
[19:35] <vtnt> Hi all
[19:35] <mindloop> ioria, To do that, you need the proprietary drivers
[19:35] <fddsafsd> ok after a long research I've found comments on github that magictrackpad2 is not working on ubuntu, any version of kernel
[19:36] <oerheks> mindloop, and what linux version are you on? bionic gives vlc 3.0.1-3build1 ...not 3.0.1-0-gec0f700fcc)
[19:36] <fddsafsd> there is only a few stale meaningless commits into the kernel to support the device but it only lets you move cursor, no support for gestures and anything
[19:36] <oerheks> looks like manjaro to me
[19:37] <mindloop> oerheks, I updated so that is the only version I get
[19:37] <vtnt> I have a really bugging issue with Ubuntu 18.04 & Macbook Pro. I can't seem to disable the "tap dragging"-feature no matter what I do. It's killing my productivity and probably me slowly in the process. Could someone please help me? I've battled with this ever since 18.04 came out..
[19:37] <vtnt> Here's an Ask Ubuntu -thread for my q aswell, with no replies: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032459/how-to-disable-the-tap-dragging-feature-in-ubuntu-18-04-libinput-without-dis
[19:38] <fddsafsd> vtnt: apparently nobody can help you, returning to osx will be the best solution
[19:38] <vtnt> Much appreciated if someone could help me, I am stuck :(
[19:38] <fddsafsd> linux is useless
[19:38] <vtnt> fddsafsd: for sure
[19:38] <ioria> mindloop, weel, in this case ; boot the livecd and install vlc
[19:38] <vtnt> I think it's called MacOS now, though, meaning if you return to OSX you're going to get rooted quite quickly.
[19:39] <fddsafsd> macOS then
[19:39] <vtnt> What's your problem though?
[19:39] <vtnt> :P
[19:39] <fddsafsd> I just wanted to use vertical scrolling or simply tapping with my awesome magic trackpad 2
[19:40] <matjam> macs have always been difficult to run linux on
[19:40] <fishcooker> i want to Print Two Pages on One pages in pdf
[19:40] <vtnt> Just sayin' I have a macbook because it just might be something Macbook+libinput -specific and now my money maker hurts because of you. Y U SO CRUEL :(
[19:40] <matjam> I gave up years ago.
[19:40] <vtnt> matjam: It actually works really great outta the box now with 18.04. With 16.04 not so great.
[19:41] <matjam> interesting
[19:41] <vtnt> It's my main OS and main computer now, a ~4 year old macbook
[19:41] <fishcooker> 2:40 AM <matjam> macs have always been difficult to run linux on
[19:41] <fishcooker> why not on virtual
[19:41] <matjam> I am talking natively
[19:41] <vtnt> I think Canonical and whoever was involved put some macbook-love in 18.04
[19:42] <sere_> vtnt: does 18.04 still use xorg.conf.. i think you might be able to do that through gnome or whatever you use
[19:42] <matjam> powermanagement was never as good as what osx could do.
[19:42] <vtnt> sere_: can you check out my thread at https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032459/how-to-disable-the-tap-dragging-feature-in-ubuntu-18-04-libinput-without-dis - I tried the conf and AFAIK it *should* work but does not :O
[19:43] <janat08> how do i look up partitions in initramfs
[19:43] <vtnt> matjam: I guess one must always remember that Apple has the upper hand when they only have to optimize their OS to a bunch of hardware
[19:43] <sere_> vtnt:  ok ill check it out.. give me a few minutes a gotta go do something
[19:43] <fishcooker> vtnt:  is apple ignore the old macbook
[19:43] <vtnt> fishcooker: What you mean?
[19:44] <vtnt> sere_: sure no hurry at all, been trying to get this fixed for some time already
[19:44] <fddsafsd> does that mean magictrackpad2 is working on ubuntu 18.04
[19:44] <oerheks> mindloop, so how did you install a manjaro/arch version of vlc in your bionic?
[19:45] <mindloop> oerheks, "sudo apt-get install vlc"?
[19:45] <mindloop> I did not do anything special
[19:45] <kus_ubuntui686> so apparently ubuntu:latest image does not ship with rsync anymore?
[19:45] <fddsafsd> its just some damn touchpad u are tearing me apart lisa why why
[19:45] <janat08> after reinstall kicks me out into initrafms, complaining with possible causes, one more likely being that /dev/sda1 doesn't exist
[19:46] <oerheks> mindloop, well, the version number is completely unknown to ubuntu, so you are hiding something.
[19:46] <janat08> fddsafsd: did you check settings !?!?!
[19:46] <ioria> mindloop, cat /etc/issue
[19:46] <mindloop> oerheks, I am hiding it so well that even I don't know what you are talking about
[19:47] <janat08> fddsafsd: have you considered ditching gnome in favour of KDE that will likely let you do unholy things like use trackpad
[19:47] <kus_ubuntui686> so apparently ubuntu:latest image does not ship with rsync anymore? anyone know why this changed? are we going for a smaller image size?
[19:47] <mindloop> ioria, Ubuntu 18.04 LTS \n \l
[19:47] <ioria> mindloop, did you try the livecd ?
[19:48] <mindloop> ioria, No, I am going to the VLC website to see if I can just try to install from there
[19:48] <ioria> mindloop, ok, why don't you try mpv ?
[19:49] <janat08> how to check partitions, I think I passed wrong one as root in initramfs
[19:50] <janat08> said /dev/sda1 didn't exist
[19:52] <Bashing-om> janat08: 'sudo parted -l ; sudo blkid ; cat /etc/fstab' insure that all UUIDs agree with what blkid reports .
[19:54] <janat08> Bashing-om: can i do tthis from inintramfs instead
[19:54] <Bashing-om> janat08: Need to work from a live environment if the install fails to boot .
[19:55] <kus_ubuntui686> just in case someone reads the irc logs, turns out this was intentional http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2018/02/rfc-ubuntu-1804-lts-minimal-images.html
[19:55] <janat08> i passed in wrong partition
[19:55] <janat08> says dev/sda1 doesn't exist
[19:56] <kus_ubuntui686> you mean /dev/sda1?
[19:56] <janat08> yes
[19:56] <kus_ubuntui686> ok
[19:57] <Bashing-om> janat08: "i passed in wrong partition" when, where ?? Is this an install attempt ?
[19:57] <R13ose> Hi
[19:58] <wojtek> hi - I have problem installing ubuntu 18.04 - after selecting "Install Ubuntu" it loads, but only displays the 18.04 wallpaper and nothing else - screen is empty
[20:00] <janat08> Bashing-om: I don't really know what it is, it puts me into grub shell on boot
[20:00] <janat08> what do I pass instead of /dev/sda1
[20:00] <janat08> im aiming for hd0,gpt1
[20:01] <vtnt> wojtek: just taking a shot in the dark, but have you tried alt+tabbing to see if the installer is just minimized for some reason?
[20:03] <wojtek> yes - no reaction, I can switch to terminal by Ctrl+Alt+F1, but nothing else
[20:03] <vtnt> something is not working properly for sure
[20:04] <wojtek> any clue how could I debug it? I don't see anything wrong in syslgo
[20:04] <Bradski> I need to jet but I asked my question on AskUbuntu. Any help would be appreciated. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1035442/invalid-partition-data-when-installing-over-w7
[20:05] <TrueEarth> hi
[20:06] <Bashing-om> janat08: What is it that you are attempting ?
[20:07] <ledeni> wojtek, did you check iso with shasum265
[20:09] <janat08> Bashing-om: fix error with root not found in /etc/btrfs stopping at error with /dev/sda1 not existing
[20:10] <wojtek> @ledeni no, but it sucessfuly created USB installer and it tries to boot - it's just the wizard is not starting, so I guess ISO is fine
[20:10] <janat08> Bashing-om: after having reinstalled linux, and mounting previous /boot/eufi into new installation
[20:10] <Bashing-om> janat08: Sorry, I know nothing of  BTRFS .
[20:11] <janat08> ***fs something
[20:11] <ledeni> wojtek, did you try 'try ubuntu'
[20:11] <janat08> fstab
[20:12] <wojtek> yes, and the effect is the same - it displays empty wallpaper and nothing else
[20:12] <pavlos> wojtek: what graphics card do you have?
[20:12] <bugzie> janat08: Me neither, I don't know too much of BTRFS
[20:13] <janat08> *fstab
[20:13] <bugzie> janat08: Why did you choose to use BRTFS?
[20:13] <ledeni> wojtek, see that is indication that your iso isn't right
[20:13] <p0a> Hello I want to install some software from source because the repos are outdated
[20:13] <p0a> How should I do this?
[20:13] <janat08> bugzie/Bashing-om: what do you know about fstab not finding root
[20:14] <p0a> or should I have two installations, a local and the apt-get one?
[20:14] <janat08> or like why passint /dev/sda1 doesn't pass
[20:14] <pavlos> p0a: probably get the tarball (tar.gz) and follow their instructions (configure, make, make install)
[20:14] <ledeni> wojtek,  check iso with shasum265
[20:14] <Bashing-om> janat08: Boot up the liveUSB, and run ' sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 ' Pass the resulting link back here so we know what it is that you are working with.
[20:15] <wojtek> I have Intel - integrated "VGA compatible controller"
[20:15] <p0a> pavlos: yeah but should I replace the software from apt-get or should I have two installations?
[20:15] <janat08> Bashing-om: can't, no internet
[20:16] <pavlos> p0a: you could install the newer version in /usr/local/bin ... if this is not in your path, it would look for the old version
[20:16] <p0a> pavlos: awesome! thanks
[20:16] <pavlos> p0a: or you could install in /homep0a/bin and again fix the $PATH
[20:16] <Bashing-om> janat08: With out that ^^ // there is no help I can offer ,... find a way to piggy back the output to the interface you are now using .
[20:17] <p0a> pavlos: I have /usr/local/sbin only in my path
[20:17] <wojtek> I just checked sha sum and it's fine - a55353d837cbf7bc006cf49eeff05ae5044e757498e30643a9199b9a25bc9a34
[20:17] <p0a> pavlos: nevermind, I just found /usr/local/bin as well
[20:17] <p0a> pavlos: what is the purpose of /usr/local/bin ?
[20:17] <platz> after updating to bionic, i notice that 'sudo prime-select nvidia' instead of instant takes ~30s to regenerate a grub config - is this expected?
[20:18] <pavlos> p0a: for your own local apps instead of apt stuff. I think apt puts apps in /usr/bin
[20:18] <ledeni> wojtek, that how you burn iso to usb
[20:19] <pavlos> p0a: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4186/what-is-usr-local-bin
[20:20] <p0a> pavlos: thank yuo
[20:20] <pavlos> p0a: np
[20:20] <wojtek> I used "startup disk creaotor" on other machine with ubuntu 18.04
[20:21] <bugzie> janat08: Finding root, during boot?
[20:22] <janat08> no
[20:22] <janat08> im not even passing right argument atm
[20:22] <bugzie> What do you mean, you not passing the right argument, fstab doesn't matter when it comes /
[20:23] <janat08> says /dev/sda1 doesn't exist
[20:23] <ledeni> wojtek, than try sudo dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M
[20:23] <janat08> which is what I pass for root partition
[20:23] <bugzie> janat08: That doesn't matter either
[20:23] <bugzie> janat08: Is your Grub2 setup properly
[20:24] <janat08> likely not
[20:24] <janat08> I did manual install
[20:24] <bugzie> What is MANUAL install?
[20:24] <janat08> grub-install
[20:24] <wojtek> @ledeni - ok I'll try and let you know in a while
[20:25] <bugzie> janat08: I don't understand the problem you are having so I can't pin point where to start to help
[20:25] <bugzie> janat08: Explain your mistakes and what exactly is not working
[20:27] <janat08> bugzie: I don't know what mistakes, but as I said started with me installing grub with grub-install, then it not finding root in fstab, then be reinstalling OS and mounting old grub-install on /boot/efi into new install, and then it saying dev/sda1 doesn't exist
[20:28] <bugzie> janat08: Why did you want to use grub-install?
[20:28] <oerheks> janat08, paste your disklayout please, sudo blkid # to see why there is no sda1
[20:28] <janat08> 32bit eufi on 64bit only CPU
[20:28] <oerheks> uh oh, 32 bit uefi
[20:28] <janat08> in live usb or initramfs
[20:29] <bugzie> oerheks: I like to know why that person wanted to use grub-install in the first place
[20:29] <bugzie> oerheks: You just ruined part of diagnositic
[20:31] <janat08> lol I know why sda1 doesn't exist, i got freaking memory card for main HDD
[20:32] <ntd> keeping /boot (and /efi) on removable storage
[20:32] <ntd> good
[20:32] <janat08> bugzie: 32bit eufi needs 32bit grub which doesn't come on 64bit os which 64bit os needs
[20:32] <renn0xtk9> I have dual boot KDE NEon and ubuntu
[20:32] <renn0xtk9> (18.04)
[20:32] <oerheks> bugzie, see, solved :-)
[20:32] <janat08> lol no, I only have memory card and no HDD
[20:32] <bugzie> I don't know, you know what you talking about
[20:32] <renn0xtk9> on kde neon I have two screen vga an dvi
[20:32] <renn0xtk9> works well
[20:32] <renn0xtk9> install ubuntu as dual boot
[20:32] <renn0xtk9> login
[20:33] <renn0xtk9> two screeen works well
[20:33] <renn0xtk9> restart the computer
[20:33] <renn0xtk9> no more signal on dvi
[20:33] <renn0xtk9> both in ubuntu and kde neon
[20:33] <renn0xtk9> what did they brok again ?
[20:33] <bugzie> When does grub UEFI need 32bit grub?
[20:34] <bugzie> I mean, efi stub loader is 32 bit
[20:34] <janat08> I meant 64bit only cpu
[20:34] <bugzie> Once you pass the phase of bootloader, where Grub 32 and 64 matters
[20:35] <bugzie> No
[20:35] <bugzie> The CPU understand, old school, I believe was 386 instrcutions
[20:35] <renn0xtk9> is there anyway to tell force scan the connected screens?
[20:36] <bugzie> instructions*
[20:36] <oerheks> 32 bit uefi, some cheap laptops come with that version, despite a 64 bit cpu .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#General_principles
[20:37] <bugzie> oerheks: UEFI aka BIOS, is 32Bit
[20:37] <bugzie> AFAIK
[20:38] <bugzie> oerheks: The stub loader, is 32bit code
[20:38] <bugzie> AFAIK
[20:38] <bugzie> oerheks: But from the stub loader, it moves on
[20:39] <bugzie> There isn't a disctinction between 32bit and 64bit on and x86 processor
[20:40] <Doow_> Hi, I'm trying to run a vpn client from a gnome .desktop file. in 17.10 I used gksudo, which has been removed in 18.04. I see that the recommended way to replace most gksudo calls is to use admin:///path/to/system/file but that doesn't really apply here since all that is handled internally in the app. Any recommendations?
[20:42] <janat08> bugzie: i'm following a guide that exists because of that: https://gist.github.com/franga2000/2154d09f864894b8fe84
[20:49] <bugzie> I hate people who blindly follow instructions what the do exactly and wonder why it doesn't work
[20:50] <bugzie> I don't blame them, I blam the open source community is not teaching instead of being arseholes
[20:50] <janat08> i suppose that increaing root delay helped
[20:51] <bugzie> Those instructions are fucking horrible
[20:52] <janat08> yes
[20:52] <leftyfb> !language | bugzie
[20:52] <janat08> anyway on restart it just throw me into grub
[20:53] <oerheks> bugzie, stop your rant, there *is* a difference between 32 and 64 uefi, get your facts right ( i posted the wiki )
[20:53] <bugzie> UEFI specs
[20:53] <oerheks> i do nothing about 32 bit uefi, ask your vendor for a proper 64 bit uefi update
[20:54] <oerheks> oe just install 32 bit
[20:54] <bugzie> oerheks: Point to where before you feel like you want to point that out
[20:54] <bugzie> It's a horrible fucking instructions, those instructions can be better written
[20:55] <bugzie> oerheks: Where in UEFI spec, and Links
[20:55] <janat08> At least they don't require you to use linux to compile a thing that makes EUFI even detect ur live USB on linux
[20:55] <leftyfb> !language | bugzie
[20:57] <oerheks> useless, leftyfb
[20:57] <leftyfb> as usual
[20:58] <bugzie> Don't be a cancer
[20:59] <oerheks> !ops | please remove bugzie -> c.o.c.
[20:59] <eraser> lol
[20:59] <eraser> there are bots
[20:59] <eraser> to trigger ops
[20:59] <eraser> wtf
[20:59] <bugzie> LOL
[20:59] <eraser> just use
[20:59] <eraser> a highlight script
[21:00] <eraser> i mean
[21:00] <eraser> it's not hard
[21:00] <leftyfb> !op | please remove bugzie -> c.o.c.
[21:00] <eraser> or
[21:00] <oerheks> eraser, drop it.
[21:00] <eraser> rara
[21:00] <eraser> rr
[21:00] <leftyfb> hm, was it removed?
[21:00] <eraser> here
[21:00] <eraser> i'll even write the script for you
[21:00] <eraser> sec
[21:01] <eraser> simple python script
[21:01] <oerheks> eraser, totally offtopic, and unwanted, thanks
[21:01] <eraser> what was the topic oerheks ?
[21:01] <eraser> i read the bugger
[21:01] <eraser> there doesn't seem to be any topic of conversation atm
[21:01] <eraser> so
[21:01] <eraser> trying to generate
[21:01] <eraser> and help out
[21:01] <SlidingHorn> !ot
[21:02] <DalekSec> eraser: Ubuntu support, and it doesn't change to other things just because it's quiet here.
[21:02] <eraser> ok so python isn't related to ubuntu?
[21:02] <BionicMac> leftyfb: =) ha.. I needed that laugh. remove bugzie (no offense bugzie, It could have been anyone)
[21:02] <wojtek> @ledeni - I recreated the USB installer and it didn't help - still the same - empty wallpaper
[21:02] <eraser> jus tryin to understand
[21:03] <renn0xtk9> Anyone knows why ubunut killed off my DVI interface?
[21:03] <eraser> before i "break the rules" am i allowed to help wojtek
[21:03] <eraser> renn0xtk9: what version ubuntu
[21:03] <eraser> are you runnin
[21:03] <renn0xtk9> 18.04
[21:03] <leftyfb> eraser: it's a support channel for Ubuntu . #ubuntu-offtopic is for other discussions and general chat
[21:03] <eraser> did it work before
[21:03] <eraser> on
[21:03] <renn0xtk9> I installed it and since then DVI interface is nowhere detected anymore
[21:03] <eraser> 16.04
[21:03] <renn0xtk9> yes
[21:04] <eraser> is dvi firmware up to date
[21:04] <eraser> also
[21:04] <renn0xtk9> now even when I enter the bios, dual screeen is not working anymore
[21:04] <eraser> may need to go back to 16.04
[21:04] <eraser> until 18.04.1 is out
[21:04] <renn0xtk9> eraser that would not explain why in bios mode it is killed off
[21:04] <SlidingHorn> eraser: try not to use "Enter" as punctuation please & thanks :)
[21:04] <eraser> true
[21:04] <renn0xtk9> and why on a 16.04 based KDE Neon (dual boot) is is killed off as well
[21:04] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: if you're having similar issues in the BIOS, that's not an Ubuntu problem
[21:04] <eraser> wait
[21:04] <eraser> is dual boot
[21:04] <eraser> next to windows 10?
[21:05] <renn0xtk9> no no
[21:05] <eraser> ok
[21:05] <eraser> is it a dell
[21:05] <eraser> ?
[21:05] <renn0xtk9> leftyfb if the problem appear right after installation, login and shutdown of 18.04, it is definitely a ubunut problem
[21:05] <renn0xtk9> no
[21:05] <`whoami`> is ubuntu a debian fork ?
[21:05] <renn0xtk9> GA-B250M-DS3H motherboard
[21:05] <leftyfb> "now even when I enter the bios, dual screeen is not working anymore"
[21:06] <eraser> ^
[21:06] <eraser> renn0xtk9: the option is gone from bios
[21:06] <eraser> or
[21:06] <eraser> the dual screen isn't working
[21:06] <eraser> ?
[21:06] <SlidingHorn> !enter > eraser
[21:06] <bugzie> eraser: Stop
[21:06] <bugzie> Thanks
[21:06] <renn0xtk9> leftyfb : which raise for instance the question  could it be that ubunutu unintantionally made a firmware update  .. < ubunut problem
[21:06] <bugzie> I like reading you
[21:06] <bugzie> eraser: But stop
[21:06] <eraser> huh
[21:06] <renn0xtk9> it is not an option, so far if I connected two screen and then entered the bios I would simply see it on both screeen
[21:07] <`whoami`> is ubuntu a debian fork or is it "something else" ?
[21:07] <bugzie> eraser: You are the best, I like it
[21:07] <eraser> yeha that makes 0 sendse
[21:07] <eraser> s/sendse/sense
[21:07] <bugzie> LOL
[21:07] <eraser> heh
[21:07] <bugzie> Yeah, I get what you fucking doing
[21:07] <el> bugzie: stop the abusive language.
[21:07] <leftyfb> bugzie: you just don't care anymore do you? You just do whatever you want
[21:08] <eraser> ok let's do this
[21:08] <el> leftyfb: stop engaging him
[21:08] <eraser> who actually runs this channel
[21:08] <bugzie> Welll, I care helping the open source community
[21:08] <leftyfb> El: please remove bugzie . This is a constant problem and we keep asking you for help
[21:08] <bugzie> That's more important than you opinion leftyfb
[21:09] <el> leftyfb: stop engaging him
[21:09] <`whoami`> meh, instead of crying about eraser's broken keyboard and bugzie's language, could someone answer my question ?
[21:09] <eraser> now now now
[21:09] <eraser> `whoami`: i did
[21:09] <eraser> it's not
[21:09] <sere_> ban leftyfb ban leftyfb :)
[21:09] <`whoami`> ah, didn't see that. Too much noise. Thanks tho :)
[21:09] <eraser> no prob
[21:09] <eraser> any reason you were asking??
[21:09] <sere_> was jk
[21:10] <eraser> ban eraser!
[21:10] <eraser> oh wai
[21:10] <eraser> +t
[21:10] <`whoami`> eraser: I had some "arguments" about that on another network.  Figured out it was the best place to ask :p
[21:10] <eraser> someone said ubuntu is a fork of debian?
[21:10] <eraser> based on??
[21:10] <leftyfb> Ubuntu is based on Debian
[21:10] <`whoami`> well 'cause it's based on debian...
[21:11] <eraser> built on debian
[21:11] <eraser> but diff entity
[21:11] <eraser> it's like saying iOS is linux
[21:11] <oerheks> * build on debian-unstable
[21:11] <`whoami`> yeah, just as joomla was a fork of mambo. Still different entities, but it was a fork
[21:11] <wojtek> anyone having problems with installing ubuntu 18.04 - installation wizard doesn't shop up and only empty wallpaper is shown?
[21:12] <eraser> wojtek: does rest of UI come up?
[21:12] <eraser> dock etc
[21:12] <renn0xtk9> is there anyway to force detect the dvi interface?
[21:12] <bugzie> I use Ubuntu Budgie
[21:12] <wojtek> no, there is no UI - however I can switch to terminal by Ctrl+Alt+F5
[21:12] <`whoami`> renn0xtk9: have you tried arand ?
[21:12] <eraser> renn0xtk9: call me crazy, but try this cause i just ran into a similar issue that i solved by accident
[21:12] <bugzie> I have mixed feelings
[21:12] <eraser> plug any device into usb port
[21:12] <eraser> if you haven't already
[21:12] <`whoami`> maybe you can force the detection
[21:13] <bugzie> may be offensive is not offensive
[21:14] <`whoami`> Is there any statement from ubuntu about this snap backdoor ?
[21:14] <bugzie> I will read
[21:14] <`whoami`> s/backdoor/malware or whatever you call it/
[21:14] <bugzie> When I available
[21:15] <renn0xtk9> `whoami` eraser I dont know how to interpred this https://pastebin.com/APVtyXm7 being given that my motherboard has HDMI + DVI + VGA
[21:15] <renn0xtk9> dont' understand why it gets me two HDMI and two DP
[21:15] <`whoami`> can't access pastebin :(
[21:15] <eraser> renn0xtk9: let me read
[21:15] <eraser> hold
[21:15] <eraser> !hold | pastebin
[21:16] <eraser> lol
[21:16] <eraser> 17:15:59| <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hold
[21:16] <eraser> rr
[21:16] <renn0xtk9> `whoami`: https://paste.opensuse.org/97209392 ?
[21:16] <`whoami`> yep, reading
[21:17] <bugzie> Yeah, I like to know who new fucking people are
[21:17] <bugzie> But, I am starting to get concern
[21:17] <`whoami`> and my answer is: i don't know (sorry)
[21:18] <platz> noobs
[21:19] <renn0xtk9> eraser I plug in and out a USB key no effect
[21:20] <renn0xtk9> Being given how serious they seem to be (see snap malware thing) it would not surprise If ubuntu 18.04 was downgrading the firmware of the motherboard without telling you (of course..) as matter of secutiry (of course)
[21:20] <Flannel> `whoami`: technically, that'd be statements from Canonical, not Ubuntu.  But I don't think there's a statement on it yet.
[21:21] <eraser> this is why a lot of people were waiting for 18.04.1
[21:21] <eraser> which drops.... when?
[21:21] <eraser> renn0xtk9: you needed to keep it plugged in during boot
[21:21] <Flannel> eraser: 3 months after 18.04
[21:21] <eraser> unless you did that and it didn't work
[21:22] <eraser> there were a lot of issues with compatability the first months after 16.04
[21:22] <`whoami`> Flannel: yes sorry. From Canonical. excuse my wording
[21:22] <renn0xtk9> okay i try see you soon
[21:24] <renn0xtk9> okay rebooted and noeffect
[21:24] <Flannel> `whoami`: but it's certainly confusing for people who don't understand the nuances between Canonical and Ubuntu (which isn't their fault).  But this is why you shouldn't be using snaps, only the real repository stuff!
[21:26] <firippu> I gotta say, ubuntu saved my computer. motherboard incompatible with drivers in windows update, aging video card wasn't working well either. ubuntu 18.04 working great
[21:27] <`whoami`> Flannel: it seemed the only way to install vlc (for example). But maybe I'm lacking something... 'apt install vlc' returned "no candidate version available", but I was able to install it from snap
[21:27] <oerheks> great, have fun, firippu!
[21:27] <`whoami`> again, I probably need to learn more about ubuntu and ppa or something
[21:27] <renn0xtk9> seriously how can it be that it does not even work anymore in the bios
[21:27] <sere_> firippu: check out lubuntu
[21:27] <renn0xtk9> it must have downloaded some kind of microcode or whatever
[21:28] <oerheks> renn0xtk9, maybe it is a FN + screen/ext screen issue ?
[21:28] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: that's a hardware problem, not ubuntu. If you have Windows on it, it will be the same problem.
[21:28] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: check your cables
[21:28] <oerheks> some laptops even have 4 modes, internal/external/int + ext/ both off
[21:29] <renn0xtk9> leftyfb cable already check several times they did not. and yes, it is an ubuntu problem ;)
[21:29] <Flannel> `whoami`: VLC is in universe: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/vlc
[21:29] <renn0xtk9> If ubuntu break somehting, the problem is not cause by what is broken but by what breaks ;)
[21:29] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: Remove the hard drive. Boot into the BIOS. If you have the same problem, it is 100% not an ubuntu problem
[21:29] <renn0xtk9> If I kill you, you are dead, not the murderere
[21:30] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: I doubt Ubuntu caused your DVI port to stop working in the BIOS
[21:30] <Flannel> `whoami`: So, you must not have universe enabled (which means you're missing out on a good chunk of software opportunities).  You should probably enable it!
[21:30] <renn0xtk9> leftyfb unless ubunut unintentionally download some firmware/ whatsoever, not telling me ;)
[21:30] <renn0xtk9> dont underestimate those guys ;)
[21:31] <renn0xtk9> oerheks this is a desktop, not laptop
[21:31] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: the firmware Ubuntu uses is loaded into memory at boot. Ubuntu does not automatically flash devices with new firmware
[21:31] <vlt> Hello. I just installed Ubuntu 18.04 on an HP tablet/notebook thing with an Intel Atom x5 CPU. Any idea what I need to make the onboard audio chip work?
[21:31] <`whoami`> Flannel: I will check that ! thanks :)
[21:31] <renn0xtk9> " Ubuntu does not automatically flash devices with new firmware" I strongly doubt that it would be technically impossible for them to do that if they wanted to
[21:31] <`whoami`> I'm not running ubuntu rn, but I'll keep that in some corner of my brain :p
[21:32] <Flannel> `whoami`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories  tells you what the four are, and links to how to configure when you're ready
[21:33] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: they don't do that. That's not your issue
[21:33] <`whoami`> noted :)
[21:35] <renn0xtk9> leftyfb are you working at canoncial ?
[21:35] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: not anymore
[21:35] <renn0xtk9> after one and half years of good working it cease to work on the day I install 18.04. that is kind of a coincidence no ?
[21:36] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: could be. Won't know until you start troubleshooting. Like I said, remove the HDD and try to go into the BIOS
[21:37] <renn0xtk9> And what should I do in the bios ?
[21:37] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: confirm the issue. Maybe try booting a USB/CD and reflash your BIOS
[21:38] <renn0xtk9> "reflash your BIOS" why reflash if it has not been flashed over by ubuntu ?^^
[21:39] <renn0xtk9> than I install 18.04 again which will refalsh again ?
[21:41] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: Ubuntu did not modify your BIOS in any way
[21:41] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: and again, you don't know either way until you troubleshoot
[21:43] <renn0xtk9> I don't uinderstand the logic behind it
[21:43] <Speed_> Hai, idk if this is the right place but I’m having trouble connecting to my router on my desktop for some reason, it was working just fine nor months if not years and now all of a sudden I’m not getting an ip v4 adress and rebooting the router did not help
[21:43] <Speed_> My phone can use it tho
[21:43] <renn0xtk9> apprt from defending ubuntu
[21:44] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: what course of action would you like to be taken at the moment?
[21:44] <leftyfb> Speed_: what version of ubuntu?
[21:44] <Speed_> 16.04
[21:45] <renn0xtk9> leftyfb ideally we should be able to look at a log of every actions ubuntu took to modify the system but if they did somehting bad they probably did not log it anyway ..
[21:45] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: the lowest level issue you have right now is a lack of DVI detection/support in your BIOS. That is the place to start troubleshooting. If it were me, I would remove the HDD and do everything I could to regain that functionality regardless of what OS was running.
[21:46] <oerheks> did you check out the FN + screen/ext screen key?
[21:46] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: Again, Ubuntu did not and does not modify your BIOS, especially without your knowledge. If all you are going to do is to continue with that mindset, then you aren't going to get very far here as far as support goes.
[21:47] <renn0xtk9> After I install ubuntuu I had to sudo update-grub from KDE-neon
[21:48] <renn0xtk9> that must be the setp that has killed it
[21:48] <Speed_> Wait, it’s working now. I’m not entirely sure what I did I just connection information and all of a sudden I got an adress
[21:48] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: that does not modify your BIOS, nor anything that will affect your video.
[21:49] <Speed_> Clicked connection information *
[21:49] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: update-grub only updates the grub config based on your config files and existing kernels
[21:49] <`whoami`> Speed_: are you using a wired connection or are you using wifi ?
[21:49] <renn0xtk9> leftyfb I could mess up things with UEFI / trusted computing/ whatsoever the NSA invented to spy us
[21:49] <Speed_> Wired
[21:49] <renn0xtk9> I got too HD
[21:49] <leftyfb> renn0xtk9: ok, we're done here. Good luck.
[21:49] <`whoami`> maybe it's an issue with the cable. Check if it correctly plugged in. On both ways (computer and router)
[21:49] <renn0xtk9> one is KDE neon  the other is ubuntu
[21:49] <`whoami`> or it also might be something else. Don't know
[21:50] <Speed_> Ok, thnx
[21:50] <`whoami`> np happy to help when I can ^^
[21:50] <renn0xtk9> I don't know exactly how ti works, but I guess the role of the UEFI is to define what starts in which order etc.
[21:51] <renn0xtk9> oh shit (he left Canonical for the NSA and reacted allergic ^^ )
[21:51] <leftyfb> !language > renn0xtk9
[21:52] <renn0xtk9> ridiculous
[21:53] <troozers> Anyone have experience with mouse button mapping with .xbindkeysrc?  I've a weird issue where it's stopping me moving a QT window when it has focus
[21:56] <erebel55> lo
[21:59] <erebel55> Does anyone know why my `journalctl -u omnibot` call would only be returning logs from a day ago?
[22:00] <erebel55> system has been up for 93 days
[22:00] <erebel55> and the service has been running for a long time too
[22:00] <EriC^> maybe it's capped at a certain size?
[22:02] <oerheks> try journalctl with  --since= and --until=
[22:06] <sum1_> hello! I am trying to figure out if my ubuntu install is working correctly. I'm trying to get "vim -x" to work, but I can't seem to install anything. It says "vim has no installation candidate"
[22:06] <sum1_> yet "vi" works.
[22:07] <Bashing-om> !info vim
[22:08] <Slade> is there a good way to remove all the old kernels/etc from /boot?
[22:09] <Bashing-om> Slade: ' sudo apt autoremove ' does that function .
[22:09] <Slade> i thought so as well, but its leaving a few there
[22:10] <w4|k3r> sum1_: Did you do sudo apt install vim?
[22:10] <sum1_> When I try "vim" it suggests all the packages with that "installation candidate". Yet, when I try to install it with "apt install" or "apt-get install" it says "no installation candidate".
[22:10] <w4|k3r> sum1_: Which version of Ubuntu are you working with?
[22:10] <oerheks> Slade, you would end up with 2 kernels, one to boot, one previous for recovery
[22:11] <sum1_> It's a sort of hacked together ubuntu 16.04 I think... its from http://acerium.ru/english/
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Slade: Real old ones or broke ones ? show us ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in a pastebin .
[22:11] <sum1_> oh its 16.10
[22:12] <Bashing-om> !16.10 | sum1_
[22:12] <leftyfb> sum1_: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/apt-autoremove-old-kernels
[22:12] <SlidingHorn> sum1_: you'd have to contact that website for support.  We cannot provide support for altered versions of Ubuntu from third parties (also, as ubottu said, 16.10 is EOL)
[22:12] <Slade> oerheks, yea got 3 for some reason
[22:13] <leftyfb> Slade: why do you need to remove them?
[22:13] <Slade> leftyfb, diskspace
[22:13] <leftyfb> Slade: kernels are MB in size
[22:13] <johnnydoo> can i add morel screen savers to mate
[22:13] <sum1_> Slade: I think this was directed at you:  http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/apt-autoremove-old-kernels
[22:13] <Slade> leftyfb, ok?
[22:14] <Slade> sum1_, ah :)
[22:14] <leftyfb> sorry, yes
[22:14] <sum1_> :)
[22:14] <leftyfb> Slade: you're only going to free up under 100MB per kernel
[22:14] <w4|k3r> sum1_: If you are still inclined to install Vim, I would suggest cloning the official repository and then building from the source
[22:15] <leftyfb> Slade: if you're late low on space, time to get a bigger HDD since logs files and other things are going to fill it up regardless
[22:15] <sum1_> cloning it and adding it as a ppa or something?
[22:15] <w4|k3r> sum1_: In this way, you can configure the languages which should have support built in in Vim. Also, you will be having the latest version of Vim
[22:15] <w4|k3r> sum1_: No, not adding it as a ppa. You will have to issue the configure and then use the generated makefile to compile Vim itself
[22:16] <leftyfb> sum1_: Neither Ubuntu 16.10, nor the distro you are running which is based on it are supported here. you'll need to seek further support from the place where you got it.
[22:16] <Slade> Bashing-om, https://nopaste.xyz/?f94c6b4c51a04dbc#jB8rELgkuIsofc+hcMXFJqKl7gBKsAIDpG7U6LTDJX0=
[22:16] <sum1_> ok thanks for the help :) ill figure something out. thanks yall!
[22:16] <w4|k3r> sum1_: As leftyfb said, I can only provide this as the final help : https://github.com/Valloric/YouCompleteMe/wiki/Building-Vim-from-source
[22:17] <Slade> leftyfb, wont help.
[22:17] <sum1_> thank you!
[22:17] <leftyfb> Slade: what won't help?
[22:17] <SlidingHorn> johnnydoo: What do you mean?
 Slade: if you're late low on space, time to get a bigger HDD since logs files and other things are going to fill it up regardless
[22:18] <leftyfb> Slade: how will a bigger HDD not help you gain more space? If you have less than 1GB of space at the moment, cleaning kernels out isn't your solution
[22:19] <leftyfb> Slade: Also, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:19] <Slade> Bashing-om, anyhow, not sure why i have 3
[22:19] <w4|k3r> leftyfb: What about checking the large files in the user directory?
[22:20] <w4|k3r> /home/<user_name> - that might have files which can be moved out elsewhere
[22:20] <leftyfb> Slade: why can't you run the script I gave you?
[22:21] <leftyfb> :/
[22:21] <Bashing-om> Slade: well, could be so old that autoremove was not then appkicable, or could be broken such that the package manager can not remove it .
[22:21] <Bashing-om> applicable*
[22:21] <leftyfb> people don't seem to actually won't help anymore
[22:21] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: they left
[22:22] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: :) .. Impatience - huh .
[22:27] <remyo> Do recent versions of Ubuntu still come with Amazon integrated into desktop search? And if so, what was the last version pre-Amazon integration?
[22:31] <Slade> whee
[22:33] <SlidingHorn> remyo: that "feature" has been disabled by default since 16.04.  If you decide to go with 18.04, I'm sure (judging by your question) that you would care to know that you'll have opt out of usage data collection in the install process.
[22:34] <doug16k> I have 4626 instances of 'do_IRQ: 0.33 No irq handler for vector' in my dmesg output
[22:35] <doug16k> never did that before upgrading to 18.04
[22:37] <doug16k> I can't hook up my USB 3.0 hub either. I get tons of USB errors and plugging in my headset (to a root port) isn't even detected
[22:39] <doug16k> I find people with ridiculous "solutions" like pci=nomsi. yeah right
[22:39] <doug16k> msi worked fine in 17.10
[22:40] <oerheks> doug16k, i read some post too, that gives 'pci=nomsi,noaer'  as solution, or disable vt-d(2) .. you might want to check for a bios update
[22:40] <oerheks> still those lines are warnings, not an error
[22:46] <pavlos> doug16k: what hardware do you have?
[22:58] <cheguacamole> hi there. When I try and see what is installed in lxterminal, the tabs as in indents to start next column seem to overlap each other. have zoomed out and looked online for ways to change this view, but no joy so far
[22:58] <cheguacamole> from doing the command dpkg -l i think
[23:00] <jemadux> i am archlinux user ..should i move to 18.04
[23:01] <oerheks> jemadux, "no" as that is the answer you did not want to read
[23:01] <tgm4883> !ot | jemadux
[23:02] <Bashing-om> jemadux: Sunjective question - make up a few liveUSBs and see what "you" like .
[23:02] <w4|k3r> jemadux: No is the answer you are looking for
[23:03] <cheguacamole> how can i just make the indent tabs movable or set them further apart from the start?
[23:03] <jemadux> i dont know.. i like both ubuntu (debian) and archlinux ..
[23:03] <w4|k3r> jemadux: dual boot then
[23:05] <Trel> I installed KDE Neon (Ubuntu based) and I set multi-user.target as default, but it boots to TTY7 which is blank, and I still have to ctrl+alt+f1 to get to TTY1. Any idea what I may need to do additionally to make it boot to a login?
[23:06] <oerheks> sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target >> sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target
[23:06] <cheguacamole> has anyone here managed to adjust the display of lxterminal? or, is there another way to see the full name of what is installed without it being cut off by the version #
[23:06] <JMichaelX> upgraded to 18.04 a few weeks ago, and am still unable to install the proprietary nvidia driver. when i try, i get this: https://pastebin.com/Si83K8nb
[23:06] <JMichaelX> if anyone has a solution, it would be much appreciated
[23:07] <cheguacamole> because dpkg -l really isn't cutting it
[23:08] <Trel> oerheks: I think you misread what I asked
[23:08] <cheguacamole> can i install another terminal alongside lxterminal for the same set up perhaps?
[23:08] <Trel> I did 'sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target' but it's NOT booting to a login screen on TTY1, which is what I want
[23:09] <Trel> It's booting to a blank TTY7
[23:09] <SlidingHorn> JMichaelX: what method are you using to install the drivers?
[23:09] <Trel> (to clarify, my goal is to boot to a text based login on tty1)
[23:11] <SlidingHorn> cheguacamole: there is a character limit for what dpkg will display.  Unfortunately I don't believe there is a way to alter that.  What exactly are you trying to figure out?  Maybe there's another way we can find the full package name for you
[23:11] <JMichaelX> SlidingHorn: i am using ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[23:12] <cheguacamole> slidinghorn i am just trying to see what i have installed - the names in their entirety, as i need to remove some things before the OS freezes up completely
[23:12] <cheguacamole> it's running off a USB drive and i don't want to give up on linux again:(
[23:13] <cheguacamole> i was just about to buy a new box and stop running off a pendrive but i keep smashing my head against these brick walls
[23:14] <JMichaelX> SlidingHorn: i currently have the graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa installed, but the result before adding that ppa was the same
[23:15] <Peyam> hi. I just installed ubuntu 18.04. I made a ext4 parition one swap and one efi 1Gb. I choose to put the bootloader on efi partition but when i restart the computer this comes up: https://imgur.com/TGRndfS
[23:15] <Peyam> please help me
[23:16] <omarv> Hi all, I just re-installed Ubuntu 18.04 because I had an issue with mouse touchpad, and fn brighness and volume keys that not working. An I realized after re-install Bionic Beaver that I have the same problem. No touchpad, and keys nor working..so any idea what happens ?
[23:20] <Peyam> no one?
[23:21] <SlidingHorn> !patience | Peyam
[23:24] <Peyam> SlidingHorn: cool
[23:26] <ledeni> omarv, check you install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics like sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[23:27] <SlidingHorn> cheguacamole: uninstalling random applications isn't going to speed up your system.  A few questions:  1)  What version & flavor OS are you using  2) What are the specs of this machine?
[23:28] <cheguacamole> it's just running off a pendrive, the max i could allocate is 4 GB
[23:28] <cheguacamole> i'm not trying to uninstall random apps just the ones i installed this morning
[23:28] <cheguacamole> for an online game
[23:29] <cheguacamole> it's lubuntu and currently i have 1364 MB of 1936 MB used
[23:29] <SlidingHorn> cheguacamole: how did you install them?
[23:29] <SlidingHorn> what version of lubuntu?
[23:29] <cheguacamole> various ways, 17.10
[23:29] <cheguacamole> some were off the runescape website and others were fixes for that
[23:30] <cheguacamole> including flatpak
[23:30] <cheguacamole> so came to more and more errors with no obvious solutions from more and more geeky people so decided to try and turn back time
[23:30] <doug16k> pavlos, ryzen 2700, Asus Prime B350 plus MB, hub is USB 3.0 multi-TT
[23:31] <doug16k> 2700X*
[23:31] <omarv> ledeni:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZRzz4HZQZC/
[23:31] <omarv> ledeni: need I to restart ?
[23:32] <ledeni> omarv, log out
[23:32] <cheguacamole> if i could just see a list of system changes in the last 12 hours?
[23:33] <SlidingHorn> cheguacamole: no idea bout how to look @ flatpak history, but anything installed using apt/apt-get can be seen in /var/log/apt/
[23:33] <cheguacamole> wow cool
[23:33] <cheguacamole> feels like progress
[23:43] <cheguacamole> thanks very much slidinghorn thanks to your info managed to uninstall the flatpak.  on this first code on the RuneScape>download>linux page:https://www.runescape.com/download , would anything much have installed up to the line "apt-get install -y ..." or not really? might just leave it alone now, but great to get those apt-get logs tyvm
[23:44] <omarv> ledeni: I did logout, and same thing. touchpad not work, fn brightness and volume keys neither.
[23:44] <cheguacamole> been thinking for ages they must be there, just didn't know how to ask the question properly
[23:46] <lapaga> cheguacamole, mistakes and problems are the best way to learn with help
[23:46] <ledeni> omarv, check --> Settings -- Devices -- Mouse & Touchpad
[23:47] <cheguacamole> i know but i've killd so many OSes and it's very disheartening, when i get a bit emotional I always get kicked off all the forums:/
[23:47] <SlidingHorn> cheguacamole: for future reference, runescape is available in the repos.  You don't need to go to their site and download a package.  Also, I would advise against blindly entering instructions from outside sites without knowing what they are.
[23:48] <SlidingHorn> cheguacamole: the more you stick to the official sources, the better off you'll likely be
[23:48] <cheguacamole> wow, never thought it wo uld be in synaptic. Yes i  know this is true to stay official but am not very patient. Have learnt at least 3 things today though so ty both very much
[23:49] <omarv> ledeni: just general settings, primary button, speed and scrolling. but no where to enable touchpad mouse,
[23:50] <omarv> ledeni: I'm using external mouse
[23:50] <ledeni> omarv,ok me too
[23:51] <omarv> hardware is ok. I'm using MSI QE62 Apache Pro laptop for gamers
[23:52] <ledeni> omarv,install 'sudo apt-get install gnome-twaek-tool'
[23:52] <omarv> ledeni:already installed
[23:53] <ledeni> omarv,you have option for mouse & touchpad
[23:53] <ledeni> omarv,maybe there
[23:54] <lapaga> omarv, i probably missed what brand you are using?
[23:55] <omarv> ledeni: mouse acceleration, pointer location, and mouse click emulation . all seem work fine.
[23:55] <omarv> ledeni: MSI
[23:57] <Claire235> wine or vm... just in general
[23:58] <ledeni> omarv, sudo 'xinput list | nc termbin 9999'