[00:00] <omarv> ledeni:https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6SrNjSS6Z2/
[00:03] <Sven_vB> how do I make tmux divide up my terminal into a top and bottom half, then switch between programs in the half that has the input focus?
[00:05] <remyo> SlidingHorn: Thanks
[00:05] <lapaga> omarv, what Sven_vB ctrl b?
[00:06] <Sven_vB> I found #tmux, I'll ask there
[00:06] <lapaga> ctrl b "
[00:08] <stvn> mathematics
[00:10] <omarv> lapaga: sorry,.. ctrl b in order to do what?.. i missed..
[00:11] <lapaga> omarv that was for someone else
[00:11] <omarv> lapaga:ahh ok
[00:13] <ledeni> omarv, i couldn't find that is touchpad recognize with xinput list try cat /proc/bus/input/devices |grep -i touchpad
[00:15] <omarv> ledeni: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/myTwbspjHD/ ,,. I can see the touchpad Synaptic
[00:16] <omarv> ledeni: can't
[00:18] <omarv> ledeni: something related to synaptics - touchpad input driver ?
[00:19] <lapaga> bug 1686081 maybe
[00:19] <omarv> how could I re-install or update this synaptics - touchpad input driver ?
[00:23] <ledeni> omarv, sorry need to go
[00:23] <ledeni> omarv,maybe later
[00:28] <omarv> ledeni: ok, thanks anyway...
[00:41] <Roey> hey all!
[00:41] <Roey> So success! My system finallly booted to the new kernel and the new install!
[00:41] <Roey> why after my upgrade to 18.04 did my login go from KDE to FVWM???  I mean, I see LightDM and it looks KDE-ish, but then FVWM2 starts, what the heck?  I do have plasma-desktop installed, and I do have a "startkde" command, and kwin is also installed.
[00:41] <Roey> I asked in #kubuntu but no one's responding
[00:46] <fulminator> some recommendation for VPNs for ubuntu? I want to do some torrenting... or then some advices on torrenting?
[00:49] <ThisIsMyName> Ahoy
[00:51] <Roey> hihi
[00:51] <Roey> ThisIsMyName: oh you're a fellow DCer, cool
[00:55] <ThisIsMyName> DCer?
[00:55] <ThisIsMyName> sorry im new lol
[00:56] <ThisIsMyName> ohhh lol im an idiot
[00:56] <Roey> ThisIsMyName: yeah, you're in DC?
[00:56] <Roey> ha
[00:56] <Roey> ThisIsMyName: btw do you know ubuntu well?
[00:57] <ThisIsMyName> nah just got it
[00:57] <Roey> aaaye
[00:59] <jpleau> Anyone have evince running? (pdf / document viewer). I'm getting a segfault here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4pVQ9PYWwj/
[01:01] <SlidingHorn> jpleau: what version & flavor OS?
[01:01] <jpleau> SlidingHorn: 18.04 / gnome
[01:01] <Roey> I can't seem to get nvidia module loaded... I did apt-get install nvidia-384.. and it appears to have loaded (though I didn't see it build a kernel module).. yet when I try "modprobe nvidia", I get: "modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found in directory /lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic"
[01:01] <SlidingHorn> jpleau: are you trying to build a newer version of evince??
[01:02] <jpleau> SlidingHorn: nope, I am trying to run it, I pasted a gdb output I'm installing debugging symbols to get an actual backtrace right now
[01:04] <jpleau> I got this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CkBcj4vNPv/
[01:07] <axisys> I noticed bash history does not get saved..
[01:08] <axisys> doh! permission issue in ~/.bash_history
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Roey: What release and desk top ?
[01:21] <fulminator> guys. how do I torrent? vpn recommendations?
[01:23] <pragmaticenigma> fulminator: This is a support channel for question about Ubuntu. Other topics can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <fulminator> yes. I am on ubuntu. windows VPNs are apps that run on windows. I need ubuntu VPNs
[01:24] <fulminator> lol
[01:26] <pragmaticenigma> fulminator: Again, that's not a topic for this room. If you having difficulty using Ubuntu itself, system crashes, driver issues or similar issues, this is the place to get help
[01:26] <adrian_1908> fulminator: most VPN providers won't tie you to specific operating systems. You should ask in a VPN specific forum.
[01:27] <`whoami`> or set up your own
[01:27] <fulminator> is there a VPN specific forum?
[01:28] <pragmaticenigma> !alis | fulminator
[01:28] <fulminator> ok, thank you!
[01:42] <Pwnna> do people still experience lag with their mouse/touchpad/trackpoint under gnome in 18.04 with Xorg?
[01:42] <Pwnna> because i'm still seeing my cursor jump forward a littlebit after i stop
[01:42] <md_5> anyone else seen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1767932
[01:42] <Pwnna> especially pronounced with my trackpoint
[01:42] <md_5> Driving me nuts
[01:43] <md_5> I wish there was a way to downgrade to the 17.10 nvidia driver, but packaging changed completely and the old package isnt compatible anyway
[01:45] <md_5> hmm I see there is a 384 bionic branch on github, maybe I can build that
[01:49] <j4f-shredder> hey, Iḿ using ubuntu 17.10, I'm using virtualbox hosted on a windows 10...The thing is that ubuntu is recognizing the device but I can't see anything when I go to nautilus, it's empty, I turned off the firewall
[01:49] <j4f-shredder> it's an android device
[01:49] <j4f-shredder> connected through usb
[01:49] <j4f-shredder> do you know if I have to set something up in ubuntu
[01:57] <Roey> Bashing-om: release is 18.04, desktop is KDE (i.e. kubuntu)
[01:59] <Bashing-om> Roey: K; pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ; sudo lshw -C display ' so we see what we have to work with .
[01:59] <Roey> ok;
[02:00] <Roey> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/4abRU8p7
[02:07] <ubuntu1738> heyyyyy wassup bitches
[02:08] <ph88> do-release-upgrade: command not found    --- how can i make this available ?
[02:09] <ubuntu1738> i run arch linux fucktards
[02:10] <oerheks> !language > ubuntu1738
[02:11] <ubuntu1738> spam
[02:11] <ubuntu1738> spam
[02:11] <ubuntu1738> spamspamspam
[02:11] <ubuntu1738> spam
[02:11] <ubuntu1738> spam
[02:11] <ubuntu1738> spam
[02:12] <Bashing-om> Roey: driver conflicts. and the driver you want is 390 : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/132530/en-us . What we do now is ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Let the sytem choose what it thinks is best to install ( will choose 390 ! ) .
[02:13] <Roey> thank you!!!
[02:13] <Roey> ok, I'll bbiab
[02:13] <Roey> (phone)
[02:14] <Bashing-om> Roey: will see ya on the other side, reboot after the driver installs .
[02:28] <Roey> hello again
[02:28] <Roey> Bashing-om: hey hey
[02:28] <Roey> so I checked lsmod and see the nvidia driver loaded now; however, this still started me in FVWM2 instead of in KDE
[02:34] <Bashing-om> Roey: That is a function if the login manager . I do not know KDE so can not give better advise . But I would expect at the password screen to be a cog icon when clicked provides a drop down of which DE to start .
[02:34] <Roey> yeah I don't see one! :(
[02:34] <Roey> I agree with you on that
[02:39] <Roey> Bashing-om: well thank you at least for addressing my nvidia issue
[02:40] <Bashing-om> Roey: It I knew better I would do better .. but in the KDE desktop .. nope, do not know .
[02:41] <Roey> Bashing-om: aye, brother
[02:41] <ph88> when i do do-release-upgrade the upgrade script wants to install glibc 6 first, which gives a message that the kernel is too old. How can i solve this problem ?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> ph88: what is the release ' cat /etc/issue ' ?
[03:00] <Roey> hi
[03:04] <brenster21> hey so i am trying to do install repair with the live USB, and idk how to select the usb drive in grub
[03:06] <Bashing-om> brenster21: re-phrase what you are fixing . Maybe we can come up with a better method .
[03:06] <brenster21> sure
[03:07] <brenster21> my laptop that i run as media server has been stuck in emergency mode. after it lost power.
[03:08] <Bashing-om> brenster21: So what you want to do is to boot the liveUSB and run a file system check on the install's root partition ?
[03:08] <brenster21> So i figured i might as well try to do a repair, 90 percent of my data is on externals
[03:10] <brenster21> Bashing-om pretty much unless you have a better idea
[03:12] <chrysalis> anybody have some spare time to walk me through configuring samba before i killmysef?
[03:12] <brenster21> So how do I do it?
[03:14] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Sounds like a wonderful plan to me. server maybe partitioned as Raid/LVM and then out of my experience range . Boot that liveUSB and pass to a paste site ' sudo parted -l ' . let's see what we have to work with .
[03:14] <brenster21> great, so i am grub and i dont the usb drive. should i go to command line?
[03:16] <Bashing-om> brenster21: No, boot up a live desktop medium . we do need to work from an external source .
[03:16] <brenster21> ok. so try ubuntu?
[03:16]  * brenster21 is noob at ubuntu
[03:16] <Bashing-om> brenster21: yes, try ubuntu will work nicely :)
[03:17] <Bashing-om> brenster21: We all were noobs at one time ... that is a fact !
[03:17] <brenster21> very true
[03:20] <brenster21> pastebin.com/0eNakqT8
[03:20] <eraserpencil1> ello
[03:20] <Styil> yo
[03:20] <Styil> how do I use the network installer
[03:20] <Styil> cant install the normal way, apparently my graphics driver doesnt work by default
[03:21] <brenster21> ^Bashing-om
[03:22] <Styil> or alternatively, how do I force the installer to use AMDGPU by default
[03:23] <Bashing-om> brenster21: :) so we are looking at "  8      294GB   433GB   139GB   ext4 " as the target . I can do that !
[03:25] <nightOwlHash> I want to create an icon for my java application, and insert it into the Global Menu
[03:25] <brenster21> great what do you want me to do
[03:25] <Bashing-om> brenster21: In that try ubuntu terminal what results ' sudo e2fsck -C0 -p -f -v /dev/sda8 '?
[03:25] <nightOwlHash> so if you click on it, you'll get a menu  displayed
[03:25] <nightOwlHash> is that even possible with java?
[03:25] <nightOwlHash> or is C/C++ recommended for this ?
[03:26] <brenster21> its loading
[03:26] <SlidingHorn> nightOwlHash: this isn't the place to ask - try #programming or ##java or something
[03:26] <nightOwlHash> SlidingHorn: thanks
[03:26] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Now if ya get errors with the above, we will step up the aggressivness :)
[03:26] <kfluous> #hey
[03:27] <brenster21> No errors
[03:27] <ledeni> nightOwlHash, what DE you using?
[03:27] <nightOwlHash> Gnome
[03:28] <nightOwlHash> ledeni: Gnome
[03:28] <brenster21> Bashing-om output is pasted same link
[03:28] <Bashing-om> brenster21: try and see then what reults when you boot the server .
[03:31] <brenster21> sure
[03:32] <ledeni> nightOwlHash, read --> https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
[03:32] <ledeni> ops he is gone
[03:35] <mattfly> Hello! Anyone there using nvidia graphic cards has installed nvidia-384 package on ubuntu bionic?
[03:35] <brenster21> Bashing-om in emergency mode
[03:35] <mattfly> is hibernation still working after you do this?
[03:37] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Well that ain't so good :( .. what is the exact prompt you have presently ? We try and boot up the system from grub .
[03:38] <brenster21> Ok this is going to take a while to type, can i send it in PM?
[03:39] <krytarik> !pm
[03:40] <brenster21> I got ACPI error for region, could get size 0x8000000000e, acpi name spae lookup failure, not found.
[03:40] <brenster21> Bashing-om
[03:41] <Bashing-om> brenster21: this a lap top ?
[03:41] <brenster21> yes
[03:41] <brenster21> i thought i mentioned that
[03:42] <Bashing-om> OK, Focus on one issue at a time .. we want to boot up this server . what is the exact prompt you have ? The prompt indicates what we have to do .
[03:44] <brenster21> sure, i was listing off the errors on the top
[03:45] <brenster21> "Welcome to emergency mode! after loging in type journal ct1 -xb"....press enter for maintence
[03:45] <stan7> i would like to learn about system administration, some good book do you recommend? linux system administration
[03:45] <stan7> or ubuntu, i just wanna know deeply how linux and systems, servers works
[03:46] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[03:47] <mahdi_ja> i have a gf 730 graphic card in my pc
[03:48] <mahdi_ja> when i go to additional driver tab i see my graphic card and driver but when i select driver and click apply change driver not installed
[03:48] <brenster21> Bashing-om i am not sure what you mean by prompt. i have a list of errors on the top, then the welcome to em mode message
[03:48] <Bashing-om> brenster21: the ACPI indicators may only be warnings and not errors, for now we ignore and move on to booting , IO got no hearburn to enter into maintence :) .. so what happens when you press enter ?
[03:48] <brenster21> I am root ls only shows desktop
[03:52] <Bashing-om> brenster21: At this root prompt what results ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[03:53] <brenster21> unknown host
[03:53] <brenster21> i should point out, when i was missing with it a while back i had to manually do network drivers
[03:54] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Hummppphh .. how about ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' ?
[03:55] <brenster21> network unreachable
[03:56] <Bashing-om> brenster21: K; we need to enable networking :) what release is this ?
[03:56] <brenster21> https://imgur.com/a/SbWAbAK my screen, phone is missing
[03:56] <brenster21> 16.04
[03:58] <r4u1>  /msg NickServ identify hoyasaxa
[03:58] <jrgilman> Guys, I'm having a problem building a package from source, but it seems that this error shouldn't be happening. It ends up finding intltool >= 0.21, but then fails right after saying it's too old: http://vpaste.net/BE9p6
[03:58] <brenster21> r4ul you just posted that to the channel
[03:59] <guiverc> r4u1, you may wanna change your password -- want me to do it for ya?  :)
[03:59] <brenster21> might want to update it
[03:59] <Bashing-om> brenster21: try ' systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ; systemctl start NetworkManager.service " here "assumming !!" you have network manager installed .
[03:59] <brenster21> ok
[03:59] <guiverc> r4u1, (i was only kidding on my last msg)
[04:00] <r4u1> ok
[04:00] <brenster21> but seriously you should change it
[04:00] <r4u1> why i like it
[04:01] <Bashing-om> brenster21: I can not make out what the phote shows .. sorry, good thought though .
[04:01] <guiverc> r4u1, kidding about the changing it for you, you should change it !
[04:01] <brenster21> its fine, sorry about my crap camera
[04:01] <r4u1> okay, to what
[04:02] <Bashing-om> brenster21: At least you have a camera,,, I do not even have one .
[04:02] <brenster21> webcam
[04:03] <SlidingHorn> r4u1: you should change it because this channel is publicly logged
[04:03] <SlidingHorn> in a few minutes, it will be a matter of public record, essentially
[04:04] <brenster21> bahing-om when i run the command, it goes in to the load ubuntu screen
[04:06] <jrgilman> lol
[04:06] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Humm ,, that is an unexpected happenstance . Can not fathom how the desktop would be effected ny network-manager . But did networking start ?
[04:08] <brenster21> um yeah i used ifconfig and dhclient to do it
[04:09] <brenster21> it work
[04:12] <brenster21> Bashing-om it works
[04:18] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Testing once again // access to the file system ' ls /etc/default/grub ' gives a positive result ?
[04:19] <brenster21> all i got was /etc/default/grub underneath
[04:21] <Bashing-om> brenster21: That is a positive result :) what now ' systemctl isolate graphical.target ' . does the desktop start ?
[04:22] <brenster21> failed to start graphical.target unit may be isolated
[04:22] <brenster21> ^may not be
[04:24] <Bashing-om> brenster21:   Hummmm ! // when you reboot, do you get a grub boot menu ? maybe we approach from a different direction .
[04:24] <brenster21> yes
[04:25] <Bashing-om> brenster21: reboot to grub then, and at the boot menu  'c' key for a command line interface . see what we can do from there .
[04:25] <brenster21> ok
[04:25] <brenster21> i am there
[04:29] <Bashing-om> brenster21: 3 commands to try and boot ' linux (hd0,msdos8)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda8 ro ; initrd (hd0,msdos8)/initrd.img ; boot ' . what results ?
[04:30] <brenster21> all 1 line?
[04:32] <Bashing-om> brenster21: no, 3 commands .. enter key after each .
[04:32] <brenster21> woops give me a sec
[04:32] <brenster21> i fucked up
[04:32] <brenster21> should the live usb be in or out?
[04:33] <Bashing-om> brenster21: watch the language ,, we are very nice people here :)
[04:33] <brenster21> my apoligizes it wont happen again.
[04:35] <brenster21> Bashing-om hd0,msdos8 not found
[04:37] <Bashing-om> brenster21: OUCH ! ,, gimme a sec to verify what I thought .
[04:37] <brenster21> ok, wait should the live usb be plugged in?
[04:38] <Bashing-om> brenster21: GPT partitioning 00 where the instructions I had given was for msdos .. hang on let me craft up for GPT .
[04:39] <brenster21> ok
[04:48] <Bashing-om> brenster21: try like this : ' set prefix=(hd0,gpt8)/boot/grub ; set root=(hd0,gpt8) ; insmod normal ; normal ; insmod linux ; linux (hd0,gpt8)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda8 ro ; initrd (hd0,gpt8)/initrd.img ; boot ' .
[04:49] <brenster21> will do, so press enter every time i get to a ;
[04:49] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Yes, bear in mind we are still fault isolation process .. we do not know where the fualt is .. grub ? drivers ? display manager ? .
[04:50] <brenster21> nppe
[04:51] <Resilience> hello, is anyone here? I got soem question of debian, but it seems there ain't anybody there
[04:52] <cfhowlett> debian is not ubuntu and is not supported here, Resilience
[04:52] <cfhowlett> !debian | Resilience
[04:53] <Resilience> I know it, that's why I warned before asking, but maybe someone has the same problem
[04:53] <cfhowlett> sorry.  please address your queries to the debian irc or forums
[04:53] <Resilience> I know what's ubuntu, I was in linux way before ubuntu existed
[04:53] <Resilience> clowns
[04:57] <Bashing-om> brenster21: "nope" does not help to isolate the fault .. where does the boot sequence fail and what actually happened ?
[05:00] <brenster21> Bashing-om ,sorry about that it failed at linux hd0 gpt8 everything till then ran
[05:04] <Bashing-om> brenster21: think'n how we can get the UUID of sda8 from grub // gimme a bit to research .
[05:04] <brenster21> sure
[05:05] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: ls (hdX,msdosY)
[05:06] <EriC^^> ls (hd0,msdos8)
[05:06] <EriC^^> or gpt8 if you're using gpt
[05:06] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: GPT partitioning .
[05:08] <EriC^^> ls (hd0,gpt8)
[05:08] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: " linux (hd0,gpt8)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda8 ro " valid for grub to boot ?
[05:09] <EriC^^> yup that should work
[05:09] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: brenster21 As it fails . looks like we need to re-install grub .
[05:09] <brenster21> how do i do that?
[05:10] <EriC^^> try pointing to the actual kernel, i havent had much luck with /vmlinuz
[05:10] <EriC^^> brenster21: try "set root=(hd0,gpt8)" then "linux /boot/vmlinuz<hit tab to complete the newest kernel> root=/dev/sda8 ro verbose"
[05:11] <EriC^^> then initrd /boot/initrd<tab and same story> then type boot
[05:11] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Yup, was my thoght to get the UUID and try again :).
[05:11] <brenster21> ok i will give it the old college try
[05:14] <brenster21> Eric^^ when i type linux /boot/vmlinuz and then hit tab, i get a new line with linux boot/vmlinuz on it
[05:15] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: recovery from power outage, fsck done and no errors .
[05:17] <EriC^^> brenster21: do you have a separate boot partition?
[05:17] <EriC^^> try "ls /boot" anything in there?
[05:17] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: partitioning: https://pastebin.com/0eNakqT8 .
[05:18] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: brenster21 Ouch, and it is EFI !
[05:19] <brenster21> huh?
[05:19] <EriC^^> brenster21: try 'ls /boot' please
[05:19] <Bashing-om> brenster21: we got to tell grub it is EFI.
[05:19] <brenster21> Disk 'hd0,gpt8' not found
[05:20] <EriC^^> ah thanks Bashing-om
[05:20] <brenster21> understood
[05:20] <EriC^^> brenster21: type 'ls -l' and look for the one with "ext*'
[05:21] <brenster21> same answer
[05:21] <brenster21> maybe because of the set root command?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: brenster21 I plumb missed that this is not only GPT but also EFI .
[05:22] <brenster21> its fine
[05:22] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: it doesnt matter much that it's efi, once you're in grub you're in grub he could boot from a legacy grub too but wouldnt be able to modify the uefi list thats all
[05:22] <EriC^^> brenster21: ls -l should list all the disks and partitions
[05:22] <EriC^^> try a bunch of "ls (hd0,gpt1)" and ls (hd0,gpt2) til you hit the one that says ext* filesystem
[05:22] <brenster21> i know, but i am getting hd0 not found want me to reboot and retry
[05:23] <EriC^^> brenster21: are you typing ls -1 (one) ? or small l
[05:23] <brenster21> l
[05:23] <brenster21> the letter l
[05:25] <EriC^^> odd, try rebooting maybe
[05:25] <brenster21> ok i have done 1 -14, same message everyyime
[05:25] <EriC^^> what about ls (hd1,gpt1) ?
[05:26] <brenster21> not found, but was listed as hd1,gpt1
[05:26] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: brenster21 "
[05:26] <brenster21> i got boot on
[05:26] <EriC^^> brenster21: try rebooting then hit 'ls -l' and see what comes up
[05:27] <Bashing-om> Disk /dev/sdb: 3881MB >> Partition Table: msdos"
[05:28] <brenster21> Ok here is what i got. Device hd0 no know filesystem detected.
[05:28] <EriC^^> aha that makes more sense
[05:28] <brenster21> gpt9 no known, 8 ext, 7-4 ntfs, 4 no konwn, 2,  fat system, 1 ntfs
[05:28] <EriC^^> but is crappy
[05:28] <EriC^^> aha great!
[05:29] <EriC^^> type 'set root=(hd0,gpt8)'
[05:29] <EriC^^> then 'ls /boot' and tell us approx whats there
[05:30] <brenster21> Ok. so i got efi, grub, vmlinuz-4.13.0-36-generic memtest and alot of vm linux
[05:31] <brenster21> linuz
[05:31] <EriC^^> good
[05:31] <EriC^^> type 'linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.13.0-36-generic root=/dev/sda8 verbose'
[05:32] <EriC^^> if you're not lazy use 'root=UUID=<uuid from ls -l for 8'
[05:32] <EriC^^> then type 'initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.13.0-36-generic'
[05:32] <EriC^^> and type 'boot'
[05:32] <brenster21> enter each one seperately?
[05:33] <EriC^^> yeah linux and initrd and boot are separate
[05:33] <brenster21> wait i meant to type 26 earlier not 36 should i change it?
[05:34] <EriC^^> yeah
[05:34] <EriC^^> are you going to use the uuid?
[05:34] <brenster21> yes, i just type the command "root=UUID=<uuid"
[05:35] <brenster21> right?
[05:35] <EriC^^> no, in the linux line use linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.13.0-36-generic root=UUID=98734x8-389429-3242323-324322 verbose
[05:35] <EriC^^> replacing your uuid instead of the numbers
[05:35] <brenster21> ok
[05:36] <brenster21> so do i keep the numbers?
[05:37] <EriC^^> use yours
[05:37] <EriC^^> type ls (hd0,gpt8) it should show it
[05:38] <brenster21> got them
[05:39] <brenster21> i got the line with everything in it
[05:40] <brenster21> ok now i am in busybox
[05:42] <brenster21> got a cursor blinking initramfas, random crng init done
[05:42] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Absolutly sure that you had the linux kernel and the UUID correct ?
[05:43] <brenster21> 98 percent positive
[05:43] <brenster21> though i am exhausted and a typo could have happened, should i shut it down
[05:44] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: brenster21 Boot the live and re-install grub ? Might be good to try to boot from grub again .. see if the result is the same .
[05:45] <EriC^^> brenster21: what'd it say before the busybox shell?
[05:45] <brenster21> bashing-om and eriC^^ i think i am gonna pass out got to get up at 6am for mother day.
[05:45] <EriC^^> done waiting for device, cant find... blablabla
[05:45] <brenster21> correct
[05:46] <brenster21> mount cant find fstab
[05:46] <EriC^^> brenster21: ah interesting
[05:46] <FunkyBob> is there possibly anyone here who can help me make it so running "python3.6 -m venv ..." on this ubuntu server actually works
[05:46] <FunkyBob> instead ofasking me to install packages that are already installed/
[05:46] <EriC^^> brenster21: in grub if you type 'cat (hd0,gpt8)/etc/fstab'
[05:46] <EriC^^> what happens?
[05:46] <brenster21> let me exit back to grub
[05:48] <brenster21> it pulled up my stab file
[05:48] <brenster21> which is how i automount my external drive to my home folder
[05:49] <brenster21> EriC^^ will you be online tomorrow evening/night?
[05:49] <R13ose> Hi
[05:51] <R13ose> I am getting this dialog to appear: Configuration file "/home/test/.config/kcminitrc" not writeable.  What do I do?
[05:51] <EriC^^> brenster21: yeah very likely
[05:52] <brenster21> mind if we try again tomorrow. promised my family to make breakfast for everyone and i am out of cooking supplies
[05:52] <EriC^^> Bashing-om will be here as well, we'll continue tomorrow if we stay alive
[05:52] <brenster21> please done die, if you die i cant buy you some beer for helping me
[05:52] <EriC^^> lol
[05:53] <EriC^^> :D
[05:53] <brenster21> that or some whiskey, your choice
[05:53] <EriC^^> alright have a good night, ttyl
[05:54] <brenster21> you to, thank you again for all your help
[05:54] <EriC^^> no problem
[05:55] <brenster21> see you tomorrow
[05:55] <brenster21> happy mother day
[05:55] <EriC^^> thanks you too
[05:56] <brenster21> night Bashing-om thank you for your help
[05:56] <Bashing-om> brenster21: NP, bot done til ya booting :)
[05:57] <brenster21> great see you tomorrow around 10?
[05:57] <brenster21> et
[05:57] <brenster21> est
[05:59] <Bashing-om> brenster21: Yeah ,, I be here most likely ,, I be GMT -5 .
[06:29] <kashem> how do i get source code of ubuntu studio-18?
[06:30] <cfhowlett> kashem, please do not cross post
[06:30] <jreginsson> Is wmctrl + zenity optimal way to create workspace init script for Ubuntu 18.4?
[06:35] <EriC^^> kashem: what do you need the source code of exactly?
[06:36] <kashem> i found it.
[06:36] <kashem> @Eric
[06:41] <Shubham> Hello I need help
[06:41] <Shubham> Any one online
[06:42] <Shubham> Please help me solve screen flickers in Ubuntu 18
[06:42] <cfhowlett> new problem?
[06:44] <Shubham> Hello anyone help
[06:44] <cfhowlett> Shubham, is this a new issue?
[06:44] <Shubham> No
[06:44] <Shubham> It's fresh install Ubuntu 18
[06:45] <Shubham> During boot it shows
[06:45] <cfhowlett> and the hardware?
[06:45] <EriC^^> Shubham: did you try the drivers in additional drivers?
[06:45] <Shubham> Then after some time it's fine
[06:45] <Shubham> The thing is I'm unable to connect to internet as well it says no wifi adapter
[06:45] <Shubham> What to do
[06:45] <EriC^^> use wired connection
[06:45] <EriC^^> in the live usb does it work?
[06:46] <Shubham> When I use ethernet I need to login the network page
[06:46] <Shubham> Sadly. Otherwise happening that as well
[06:47] <Shubham> Hey Eric can I contact u in WhatsApp to show images so that u can understand my problem better
[06:48] <Shubham> U there bro
[06:50] <Shubham> Hello
[06:52] <cfhowlett> !patience | Shubham
[06:54] <EriC^^> Shubham: upload to http://imgur.com
[07:17] <Rumen> Hi there I need an advice. When I start application for WINE via terminal with command "wine /path/to/myapplication.exe" it starts. But when I click via the Nautilus - nothing happens. Seems it is not associated with any application. Also when I click to associate I don't see wine in the list of the programs. How to fix that?
[07:24] <JimBuntu> Rumen, so... when you right-click the program, "open with"... then "other application" and then "Show Other Application"... WINE isn't listed?
[07:29] <Randolf> How can I restart the networking in Ubuntu 16.04.4 LTS?  I keep seeing errors when I try to use the "service networking restart" command.
[07:29] <Randolf> What I'm trying to do is support multiple IP addresses to a single NIC.
[07:30] <cfhowlett> Randolf, feel free to actually state the errors   :)
[07:30] <Randolf> Okay...
[07:30] <ben8472> Randolf : https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-restart-network-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus-linux
[07:30] <JimBuntu> Randolf, the service restart is the most proper way that I am aware of.
[07:30] <Randolf> Job for networking.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status networking.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.
[07:30] <ben8472> funny how i found just by typing in your question in google ;)
[07:31] <JimBuntu> ben8472, That is often the case in #ubuntu, lol
[07:31] <Randolf> ben8472:  Using the systemctl method also yields the same error.
[07:31] <ben8472> and if you got errors trying to support multiple IP addresses on a single nic, than you are doing it wrong
[07:31] <Randolf> ben8472:  I've looked through a variety of results in Google already.
[07:31] <ben8472> wrong syntax in your /etc/network/interfaces
[07:31] <Randolf> ben8472:  I've already commented all of that out and I'm just trying to get the interface restarted.
[07:32] <Randolf> I come from a background of using NetBSD which makes this kind of thing very easy.
[07:32] <Randolf> So I think there's a learning curve for me here.
[07:32] <Rumen> JimBuntu - Yes missing in the list
[07:32] <ben8472> Randolf : https://askubuntu.com/questions/313877/how-do-i-add-an-additional-ip-address-to-etc-network-interfaces
[07:33] <ben8472> i googled for "multiple ip addresses network interface ubuntu 16.04"
[07:33] <Randolf> ben8472:  The problem I keep running into is that even with an unmodified "interfaces" file, I still can't restart the networking service without errors.
[07:34] <ben8472> put your config up, paste.ubuntu.com
[07:34] <ben8472> with unmodified you mean fresh installed ?
[07:35] <NaSABag> hi everyone
[07:35] <ben8472> "service networking restart" works fine on my 16.04, it must be having errors in your "unmodified" file
[07:36] <NaSABag> I am trying to install ubuntu and it is stuck in the "Updates and other software" page
[07:36] <NaSABag> I am trying to install the lates LTS version
[07:36] <Randolf> This is my current "interfaces" file:  https://www.pastebin.ca/4025606
[07:36] <cfhowlett> NaSABag, current version?
[07:36] <NaSABag> yeap
[07:37] <Randolf> Even with that, which works fine as it is, the "service networking restart" message yields an error.
[07:37] <cfhowlett> NaSABag, current version?????? as in WHAT IS current version?
[07:37] <NaSABag> uh
[07:37] <NaSABag> Linux ubuntu 4.15.0-20-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Apr 24 06:16:15 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:37] <NaSABag> ubunt 18.04 x64
[07:38] <NaSABag> ^ cfhowlett
[07:38] <cfhowlett> NaSABag, did the installation complete?
[07:38] <NaSABag> nope
[07:38] <NaSABag> It is stuck on "Updates and other software" page
[07:38] <cfhowlett> NaSABag, for how long?
[07:38] <NaSABag> quite a while now
[07:38] <NaSABag> 6 7 minutes
[07:39] <NaSABag> is it internet related?
[07:39] <NaSABag> could it be?
[07:39] <ben8472> Randolf : dont put your netmask like that, put it in an extra line netmask 255.255.255.0 or whatever you need
[07:39] <NaSABag> Cause I have given it, the installation, internet access, this is not offline
[07:39] <cfhowlett> you are trying to download a 2 gb OS - it takes time
[07:39] <Randolf> ben8472:  Why not use CIDR notation?  Is it buggy?
[07:40] <ben8472> Randolf : think i had a problem with that before and using an extra line of netmask fixed it
[07:40] <NaSABag> cfhowlett: my man this is on a live dvd, it doesn't need to download a 2 gb OS. I have already downloaded it, the iso file, before. It is on the dvd that I have booted from. besides, monitor shows 'zero' internet transfer
[07:41] <Randolf> ben8472:  Okay, I'll try that.  If that's the solution, then that's a bug that needs to be fixed.
[07:41] <cfhowlett> NaSABag, ah!  well that is different.  personally, I kill the internet connection, install the OS then do the upgrades.
[07:41] <ben8472> Rondom_ : one of my 16.04 looks like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cN2rhqcFnd/
[07:42] <ben8472> Randolf  i mean
[07:42]  * Randolf is just looking up /27 because he's been using CIDR notation for everything...
[07:43] <NaSABag> ok
[07:43] <NaSABag> it is on now
[07:43] <Randolf> 255.255.255.224
[07:43] <NaSABag> I dunno what happened
[07:43] <NaSABag> solved
[07:43]  * Randolf grumbles...
[07:43]  * NaSABag looks up the word grumbles
[07:43]  * Randolf laughs
[07:43]  * NaSABag too
[07:43]  * NaSABag secretly ofcourse
[07:44] <ben8472> Randolf : on a second look i dont think CIDR directly in your ip adress is a valid way to enter it on ubuntu 16.04
[07:44] <Randolf> Damn, that was an epic failure.  Now the host is down.
[07:45] <Randolf> ben8472:  CIDR is a standard notation.  I'm surprised that it's not supported by Ubuntu, especially when it has been working for me.
[07:46] <Randolf> Okay, the host came back.  Restarting the networking is just very slow.
[07:46] <NaSABag> ok if I am installing onto a usb, to make the usb bootable every where, should I install the bootloader on the usb itself?
[07:48] <Randolf> ben8472:  Even with using the non-CIDR notation, adding multiple IPs doesn't work, although I don't get those errors now.
[07:48] <ledeni> NaSABag, yes
[07:49] <NaSABag> thank you ledeni
[07:49] <ben8472> Randolf : if you just removed the # in your paste than you are still doing it wrong
[07:49] <Randolf> Hang on, it's working now (arp had to catch up).  But it doesn't show up in "ifconfig' output.
[07:49] <ben8472> Randolf : i posted a link for you where its shown how to properly put several IPs ona. nic
[07:49] <Randolf> ben8472:  No.  I mentioned that I'm not using CIDR notation now.
[07:49] <ben8472> Randolf : yes i read that but the paste you showed me still does it wrong
[07:49] <NaSABag> btw would I be able to watch porn on ubuntu like I would on windows as well? or does ubuntu censor stuff out?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> ubuntu doesn't censor
[07:50] <Randolf> ben8472:  I'll set up a new one for you to look at that's the current incantation.
[07:50] <NaSABag> cfhowlett: then it is my favorite OS
[07:50] <NaSABag> It seems to run faster than windows
[07:50] <ben8472> Randolf : say you got eth0 with IPv4 #1, you will need to setup eth0:0 with address and netmask
[07:50] <ben8472> Randolf : again the link: https://askubuntu.com/questions/313877/how-do-i-add-an-additional-ip-address-to-etc-network-interfaces
[07:51] <ben8472> Randolf : actaully there is a new method it seems (sorry) https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Multiple_IP_addresses_on_one_Interface
[07:51] <ben8472> ymmv
[07:52] <Randolf> ben8472:  Updated file:  https://www.pastebin.ca/4025611
[07:52] <Randolf> ben8472:  I'll take a look at your link...
[07:52] <NaSABag> my IT friend told me to go for OpenBSD, if I wanted more security, however ubuntu was more customizable and more user friendly
[07:52] <SlidingHorn> I have Ubuntu Studio 18.04 (XFCE) & to make my urxvt prettier, I adjusted ~/.Xresources and ran xrdb to refresh it. This caused the font in urxvt to be unreadably small. To "fix" this, I ran xrandr --dpi 96x96 (what nvidia-settings reports my dpi to be) and now my primary monitor is unresponsive, doesn't load the panel, and dragging windows to it makes them disappear. This continues if I log out &
[07:52] <SlidingHorn> back in.  Any tips?
[07:52] <NaSABag> Windows 10 Enterprise is just too expensive
[07:53] <Randolf> ben8472:  It appears that I'm using the "iproute2" method.
[07:53] <NaSABag> other windows editions limit the crap out of you
[07:53] <Randolf> NaSABag:  OpenBSD uses the "pf" firewall, which can also be compiled into the NetBSD kernel (which is the BSD that I've been using for hundreds of servers over the past 15+ years).
[07:54] <Randolf> NaSABag:  I found that using "nftables" made for an easy transition from pf.
[07:54] <NaSABag> Randolf: you mean I should try OpenBSD if I wanted better firewall?
[07:55] <Randolf> NaSABag:  I'm finding that Ubuntu with the "nftables" package seems to work just as well.
[07:55] <NaSABag> uuh
[07:55] <NaSABag> thank you for the information
[07:55] <Randolf> NaSABag:  The thing about OpenBSD is that it has a well-earned reputation for high security.
[07:56] <NaSABag> Is it really that secure?
[07:56] <Randolf> NaSABag:  The reason I've been recently moving to Ubuntu is that I'm finding it a lot easier to keep things updated than NetBSD and OpenBSD.
[07:56] <Randolf> NaSABag:  Well, out of the box it's very good, but ultimately it also depends on the administrator's skill.
[07:56] <NaSABag> Randolf: why is that?
[07:56] <NaSABag> I mean why is it hard to keep it updated?
[07:56] <JimBuntu> I don't think you need to move to NetBSD to get the same kind of firewall.
[07:57] <NaSABag> is it not 'sudo apt update' ?
[07:57] <Randolf> NaSABag:  In NetBSD I'm finding that updating packages can often result in other packages breaking.  Ubuntu seems to have that all figured out very well.
[07:57] <NaSABag> great
[07:57] <NaSABag> Then I better stay at ubuntu
[07:57] <Randolf> NaSABag:  No, on NetBSD there is no "apt" but rather it uses the pkgsrc system and "pkgin" for binary packages (that would be comparable to "apt").
[07:57] <NaSABag> is what I understand from your hints
[07:58] <Randolf> NaSABag:  I really like NetBSD, and the community has been wonderfully supportive, but I'm finding that a lot of software these days is written for Linux.
[07:59] <NaSABag> the game can change any minute.
[07:59] <Randolf> NaSABag:  I still have more than 50 servers running NetBSD in corporate environments (so that we don't need to waste time with Windows so-called "servers") and also various internet servers.
[07:59] <NaSABag> superb
[07:59] <Randolf> NaSABag:  Any minute is right, although I've been noticing this trend gradually moving toward favouring Linux for the last 10+ years.
[07:59] <NaSABag> :)
[08:00] <Randolf> NaSABag:  I'm also finding that this #ubuntu channel has a community that's helpful like in the #netbsd channel, and that was a major factor in my decision to choose Ubuntu specifically.
[08:01] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  Correct.  One can use OpenBSD or NetBSD.  I just happen to be using NetBSD mostly because OpenBSD doesn't support nearly as much hardware as NetBSD does.
[08:01] <NaSABag> people in *nix are generally very helpful and seem to teach you stuff that at times would probably cost you a thousand bucks if you wanted to lear em on your own.
[08:01] <NaSABag> unlike windows which always want remote access
[08:02] <Randolf> NaSABag:  Yeah, these communities are truly wonderful.
[08:02] <NaSABag> Freenode rocks!
[08:02] <ben8472> mostly yes, unless you ask on the wrong channels ;P
[08:02] <Randolf> NaSABag:  I've been /kicked from the #windows channel so many times I've lost count, and it's always because some Microsoft Apologist suffering from Redmond Syndrome doesn't like my question about Windows not running properly (and they /kick others who ask questions that they feel attacks Windows as
[08:03] <ben8472> try asking something on #pfsense you might aswell not
[08:03] <JimBuntu> Randolf, PF has also been ported to debian and there are a fair number of alternative firewalls within the Ubuntu repos. apf-firewall is an exacmple if someone doesn't want to use the front-end of UFW for iptables.
[08:03] <NaSABag> ben8472: that depends fully on how you ask, even in the wrong sectors they endup helping you if you ask nicely.... we are getting offtopic here
[08:03] <NaSABag> thank you all
[08:03] <Randolf> ben8472:  The #pf channel is particularly interesting that way -- answers can take a long time, but they're definitely worth the wait.
[08:03] <Randolf> well).
[08:04] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  I didn't know about apf-firewall.  I've been using nftables, and I'm liking it a lot.
[08:04] <Randolf> NaSABag:  You're welcome.
[08:04] <ben8472> i spend quite some time on sophos community support, the question that often come up are often like total beginner stuff, if you consider that companys pay few thousand dollars they might aswell put it a few hours of consultant labor
[08:05] <JimBuntu> Randolf, use whatever tool you prefer, that's the joy of Linux (and Unix-like alternatives such as *BSD). If using Ubuntu, and serious about security, learning how to master iptables is a must.
[08:05] <ben8472> i also like the broad community of ubuntu, you can look up everything and 100 other people usually have the same problems
[08:06] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  It's on my list of things to learn.
[08:06] <Randolf> ben8472:  Folks, such as yourself, have been very helpful to me here.
[08:07] <ben8472> i am not sold on having firewalls on ubuntu to be honest, i think its only for very specific usecases, i would always use a stand alone firewall in front or reverse proxy for security
[08:07] <Rumen> Reinstalled WINE couple of time ... same problem
[08:08] <Randolf> ben8472:  I've been compiling pf into NetBSD kernels for years, and using that as the front end firewall.  I do the same with Ubuntu now, and it satisfies all my tests.
[08:08] <ben8472> having a patched up system helps more than having 100 iptable rules when your apache installation has an exploit
[08:08] <ben8472> or using ssh key instead of password, iptables wont help there either
[08:09] <Randolf> ben8472:  Not having to have another piece of hardware between my servers and the internet is something I prefer because it's one less potential point of failure, and it also equates to lower overall operational costs.
[08:09] <ben8472> if you secure that box well enough sure, if you got a dozen boxes on the internet i like it more having one central doorkeeper
[08:09] <Rumen> After I reinstall wine still same problem.  When I start application for WINE via terminal with command "wine /path/to/myapplication.exe" it starts. But when I click via the Nautilus - nothing happens. Seems it is not associated with any application. Also when I click to associate I don't see wine in the list of the programs. How to fix that?
[08:09] <Randolf> ben8472:  Well, actually, limiting which IP addresses can connect to TCP port 22 is an important way that firewalls can help.
[08:10] <ben8472> Randolf : yes, that is a valid usecase of course
[08:11] <Randolf> ben8472:  I understand that argument, and I'm not going to engage it.  This is a matter of administrative style, and what it boils down to is that there are many correct ways to accomplish things in computers.  And what's really wonderful about it is that Linux and Unix support nearly all of them
[08:11] <Randolf> well.
[08:11] <ben8472> yes of course
[08:11] <Randolf> :)
[08:11] <ben8472> i often face situations where there are linux, windows and legacy systems (old novell servers for example) on a network that all need secure internet access
[08:12] <ben8472> opnsense came a long way since forking, really nice (free and opensource) solution
[08:12] <Randolf> The worst firewall implementation I've encountered is VMware ESXi 6.5's -- it's even more atrocious than Microsoft Windows' firewall (which is like a yellow snowball that refuses to melt in Hell).
[08:13] <Randolf> I'm a Novell NetWare CNA.
[08:13] <Randolf> I can still remember how to install, configure, and administer NetWare versions 2.x (which required compilation), 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, and 6.x.
[08:14] <ben8472> Randolf : my collegue is the novell guy, we had one major issue where printing (iprint) and dns stopped working a few times a week at almost the same time
[08:14] <ben8472> its very hard to diagnose let alone google for it
[08:14] <Randolf> One company I was at began downgrading to Windows NT (they called it "upgrading" for some reason), and it felt like we were going "one step forward and two steps back."
[08:14] <ben8472> i am not a novell fan to be honest
[08:14]  * cfhowlett is confused.  checks the channel topic ...
[08:15] <Randolf> I don't like iPrint.  It's terrible.
[08:15] <ben8472> i see what they did back in the 90s but not sure they are up to their game
[08:15] <Randolf> Novell eventually abandoned NetWare and moved over to SuSE Linux.
[08:15] <Randolf> I used to host over 500 internet sites on NetWare 4.x then 5.x.
[08:15] <ben8472> ya, open enterprise sles
[08:15] <ducasse> this is getting pretty offtopic, guys...
[08:15] <Randolf> Sorry.
[08:16] <Randolf> Novell should have moved to Ubuntu.
[08:16]  * Randolf smirks
[08:16] <ben8472> ya, make ubuntu great again (snickers) jk
[08:16] <Randolf> ben8472:  That will require a Spiritual Advisor though.  ;P
[08:17] <ben8472> having added a few ubuntu vms recently i am thinking about how i want to control updates for them, centralized admin, i admit i haven't really had the time or will to look into it yet (i know there are some options)
[08:17] <Randolf> ben8472:  By the way, I'm back to using CIDR notation and it's working without errors now for restaring the networking service.
[08:17] <Randolf> So it seems that it works just fine.
[08:18] <JimBuntu> Randolf, Novel Netware, there's a blast from the past.
[08:18] <ben8472> ok odd, should have worked before
[08:18] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  ...and it was a stable blast indeed.
[08:19] <ben8472> not as stable as ubuntu ;)
[08:19] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  I used to program NLMs in machine language for it just for fun ... because someone told me that it was impossible.
[08:19] <JimBuntu> Randolf, I have not interacted with anything Novell related in probably 20 years, but I used to admin a network with a bunch of netware on it... mixed with Linux and WAY TOO MANY Windows machines, lol.
[08:19] <Randolf> ben8472:  Yes, I'm finding Ubuntu to be completely stable.  Even moreso than NetBSD.
[08:19] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  NDS/eDirectory made managing Windows machines a dream-come-true.
[08:20] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  It would be great to get this working from Ubuntu.
[08:20] <JimBuntu> The most assembler I have ever done was very specific to the Dragonball Z processor used in mobile devices long ago. I used to need to debug and re-write assembly on them in real-time (as close to real-time as human time can be anyway)
[08:20] <Randolf> But that would be one heck of a major undertaking.
[08:21] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  Do you remember the Commodore 64?  Before I finished elementary school I was cracking copy protection on games and writing 6502 machine language programs.
[08:21] <JimBuntu> Randolf, I do remember it, got mine when I was about 6 years old.
[08:21] <fddsafsd> hi, is magic trackpad2 supported on Ubuntu ?
[08:21] <Randolf> Nice!
[08:21] <fddsafsd> anybody know ?
[08:21] <fddsafsd> or should I switch to macOS
[08:21] <Randolf> I wished I got started at that age, but I was 10 when my parents got mine for me.
[08:22] <Randolf> fddsafsd:  Is that some sort of a USB mouse?
[08:22] <ben8472> that is a trackpad for desktops
[08:22] <fddsafsd> its a USB trackpad
[08:22] <fddsafsd> it can be a bluetooth trackpad too
[08:23] <ben8472> macos has one of the best user desktop experiences, so might aswell switch, i would never use it for server stuff (hugs ubuntu)
[08:23] <Randolf> fddsafsd:  You may find this to be of interest:  https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/332
[08:23] <Randolf> It appears that someone has added support for that device in Ubuntu.
[08:23] <Randolf> I don't know if you'll have to add it manually though.
[08:24] <fddsafsd> yes I know both git pages for 2 relevant PRs, both ends discussions with "Oh it's not working anymore"
[08:24] <ben8472> i support a local refugee group, we give them old computers and i always install ubuntu on them, no complains so far
[08:24] <Randolf> ben8472:  The problem with MacOS is that there's no "Save" or "OK" or "Apply" button on most dialogues -- you have to use the "X" in the corner to Save, which is counter-intuitive because that normally means Cancel.
[08:24] <Randolf> But on Apple they like to "Think Different."
[08:24] <fddsafsd> I guess we just can't do it since 2016
[08:24] <fddsafsd> we must be incapable
[08:25] <ben8472> Randolf : there is, i think what you refer to is textedit when using icloud
[08:25]  * JimBuntu prefers to use Ubuntu on Apple hardware, lol.
[08:25] <ben8472> lol
[08:25] <Randolf> ben8472:  I'll take your word for it because I don't use any Apple products.
[08:25] <fddsafsd> it was worth a try !
[08:25] <Randolf> They're way over priced.
[08:25] <Randolf> fddsafsd:  Have you tried to get it working?
[08:26] <fddsafsd> it does work for cursor movement only
[08:26] <ben8472> Randolf : i use them 24/7, but i dont agree with their hardware decisions in the last few years when it comes to notebooks or desktops
[08:26] <Randolf> fddsafsd:  So it's partially working.  Bummer that it's not 100%.
[08:26] <ben8472> i have ubuntu on a vm on my mbp and desktop but thats it
[08:26] <JimBuntu> ben8472, find the joy of rEFInd and multi-boot
[08:27] <fddsafsd> ben8472: yes macbook pros look like my ass since 2016+ if thats what you mean
[08:27] <fddsafsd> I used to like them
[08:27] <regrd> Does anyone here have the microcode issue?
[08:27] <ben8472> fddsafsd : not only by look ... i have the last 2015 model which still has the old keyboard and regular usb ports
[08:27] <fddsafsd> now they have a touch bar and rainbows on keyboard
[08:27] <fddsafsd> ben8472: that's the best
[08:27] <Randolf> ben8472:  I bought a MacBook Pro over 15 years ago, and it certainly has a smooth user interface, but I also felt like I was wearing a straight jacket when using it because there was no command prompt and customization options were very limited.
[08:28] <ben8472> fddsafsd : when this machine dies ill switch to a regular notebook + some linux
[08:28] <JimBuntu> fddsafsd, lol, they do. Enough people don't like the new ones that the previous models carry a premium.
[08:28] <fddsafsd> I'd do the same lol
[08:28] <Randolf> ben8472:  And typing always sucked on Apple's products -- I type ~140 WPM and it loses many of my keystrokes.  That made it pretty useless, and Apple's response to me on technical support was that the keyboard was going the way of the Dodo Bird so I should just get more used to using the mouse.
[08:29] <ben8472> fddsafsd : i can still get the same money for my 2015 machine that i payed (i bought it used 1 1/2 years ago)
[08:29] <ben8472> Randolf : it depends on what machine you used. There were ALOT of bad apples (pun intended) out and still are
[08:29] <Randolf> Ha ha ha.
[08:29] <Randolf> I know that they don't lose keystrokes nowadays.
[08:29] <ben8472> i have a 2000 pismo (fully upgraded), too bad i never had the money for it when it wa new
[08:29] <Randolf> But most of the keyboards are horrible to type on, even when used with a PC.
[08:30] <fddsafsd> magic keyboard is the best though <3
[08:30] <ben8472> the best keyboard has been my g910, i used to buy 1 keyboard/year because of wear and tear, now i have it for 2 1/2 years and it just needs a proper cleaning
[08:30] <ben8472> fddsafsd : if you want carpel tunnel get yourself a magic mouse and play some games
[08:30] <Randolf> fddsafsd:  Magic keyboard?  Do you have a link to a picture of it?
[08:31] <Randolf> ben8472:  I like many of Logitech's products a lot.  They make some great keyboards, but nothing beats IBM's PS/2 keyboard.
[08:31] <fddsafsd> Ive used a lot of keyboard and this is my fav product of all times
[08:31] <ben8472> fddsafsd : magic mouse would be something the devil would hand out in it-hell next to a windows vista machine
[08:31] <fddsafsd> I like the tactile feedback
[08:31] <fddsafsd> i hate the magic mouse
[08:31] <Randolf> ben8472:  Fun fact:  If you type "Developers
[08:31] <fddsafsd> and dont mind the trackpad, without gestures its shit lol
[08:31] <Randolf> ben8472:  Fun fact:  If you type "Developers!  Developers!  Developers!" in the #windows channel, you'll probably get /kicked in less than 10 seconds.
[08:31] <JimBuntu> KB going the way of the dodo?! lol, how do they think their people WRITE macOS?
[08:32] <ben8472> fddsafsd : i used to HATE trackpads until i used my current 2015 mbp, now i never carry a mouse with me
[08:32] <ben8472> but a trackpad on a desktop, naaaah
[08:32] <Randolf> JimBuntu:  Yeah, I literally told them to fuck off on that phone call.  That was it for me with Apple.
[08:32] <JimBuntu> Trackball > trackpad > mouse
[08:33] <fddsafsd> https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQ052LL/A/magic-keyboard-with-numeric-keypad-us-english-silver?fnode=9d
[08:33] <fddsafsd> the dark one is noice
[08:33] <ben8472> wow only 130 bucks
[08:33] <fddsafsd> Space Gray
[08:33] <Randolf> fddsafsd:  For me, that keyboard is mostly useless at my typing speed.
[08:33] <Randolf> fddsafsd:  It is a popular model though.
[08:34] <fddsafsd> you could get the smaller one your palms will be closer
[08:34] <fddsafsd> once you get used to it you'll find yourself at 220 wpm
[08:34] <Randolf> fddsafsd:  Smaller doesn't work for me.
[08:34] <Randolf> Do you type 220 WPM?
[08:34]  * JimBuntu thinks many users can't even *think* at 220 wpm.
[08:34] <fddsafsd> nah just exaggarating :p
[08:34] <Randolf> That's what I thought.  Heh.
[08:35] <ben8472> has anyone had any success using transmission on ubuntu to share a file from user a to user b
[08:35] <SlidingHorn> I have Ubuntu Studio 18.04 (XFCE) & to make my urxvt prettier, I adjusted ~/.Xresources and ran xrdb to refresh it. This caused the font in urxvt to be unreadably small. To "fix" this, I ran xrandr --dpi 96x96 (what nvidia-settings reports my dpi to be) and now my primary monitor is unresponsive, doesn't load the panel, and dragging windows to it makes them disappear. This continues if I log out &
[08:35] <SlidingHorn> back in.  Any tips?
[08:35] <ben8472> i tried that last night and it didnt really work for me (had hoped that ipv6 would take care of connection)
[08:40] <ben8472> Randolf : i read that ubuntu + samba4 might be a useable option against novell (dont want to 1:1 compare it but you basicly get a DC vs. nds)
[08:40] <nait-sirhcx> x
[08:42] <Randolf> ben8472:  SMB is a terrible protocol.  I really can't emphasize enough how utterly awful and inefficient it is.  When you compare Samba with Novell NetWare's network file system protocol, you're basically comparing it to the baggage-overloaded Windows version of it.
[08:42] <Randolf> ben8472:  But compared to Microsoft's Windows-based implementation of SMB, Samba kicks the crap out of it with ease.
[08:43] <ben8472> Randolf : so what would you use in 2018 to manage a windows client network with printers?
[08:43] <regrd> Hey, can anyone help with my kubuntu install problem? Can't seem to find help in the #kubuntu channel.
[08:43] <Randolf> ben8472:  And Microsoft's "Active Directory" is still inferior to Novell's eDirectory.
 Hi, I have an issue with instaling Kubuntu 18.04 LTS. The issue is that when I start Kubuntu from my USB, an error is displayed which says "[Firmware Bug]: TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata; please update microcode to version: 0xb2". I tried updating my BIOS, and installing the latest microcode, but that doesn't work. What do I do?
[08:43] <Randolf> ben8472:  You'd be better off with LDAP.
[08:43] <ben8472> regrd : just ask away
[08:43] <Randolf> Manage a Windows client network?  Ha ha, have fun.  I'd rather try to do that with Samba than with anything Microsoft produces.
[08:44] <nait-sirhcx_> 806x
[08:44] <regrd> ben8472, when I boot up to the LiveCD(on a USB), the error mentioned occurs.  "[Firmware Bug]: TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata; please update microcode to version: 0xb2"
[08:44] <JimBuntu> hmmm. launchpad bug 1724650
[08:44] <regrd> Yes, the fix is a microcode update
[08:44] <regrd> But I've already done that and the problem persists
[08:45] <Randolf> ben8472:  For printers, my preference is to set them up as their own hosts on the network and just have client machines print purely over IP to them.  I find that even yields better performance than printing over USB (at least from Windows).
[08:45] <JimBuntu> How did you update the micro-code, via 'sudo apt-get install intel-microcode' ?
[08:45] <regrd> There's a windows method, using the VMWare tool
[08:45] <regrd> http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/how-to-update-microcode-from-windows.787152/
[08:46] <regrd> I don't have linux installed on my laptop at all.
[08:47] <JimBuntu> regrd, are you able to boot the live USB and then use the command above?
[08:47] <Rumen> any idea how to fix the error with wine? run only from terminal and eve then give =s some errors
[08:47] <Rumen> reinstalled couple of times ... same errors
[08:48] <regrd> No, JimBuntu, I can get up to the 3 option menu of Start Kubuntu, OEM install, and check for defects.
[08:48] <regrd> Going through the Start Kubuntu option causes the error above
[08:50] <Guest14199> ???
[08:50] <Guest14199> ???
[08:50] <Guest14199> ?
[08:50] <regrd> Just tried going through the OEM install option, the same error appears.
[08:50] <JimBuntu> regrd, Ok, sorry, hopefully someone with more experience on this will chime in.
[08:50] <ben8472> Rumen : you are on 18.04 or ?
[08:50] <regrd> No problem, JimBuntu
[08:52] <zero0000> regrd, have you tried with UEFI off (bios settings)?
[08:52] <zero0000> regrd, it sounds unrelated but wouldn't be the first time ive seen it cause odd errors?
[08:53] <Rumen> Yes ben8472
[08:54] <regrd> zero0000, is that disabling secure boot?
[08:57] <zero0000> regrd yes
[08:58] <zero0000> regrd, I will admit if that stops the error I am not sure how to get it working with UEFI but it gives us more info
[08:59] <regrd> There's no option to disable secure boot here, but I'll see if there's an ASUS utility
[09:05] <ducasse> disabling uefi mode and disabling secure boot are two different things
[09:15] <kashem> how do i check os version from terminal
[09:15] <kashem> ?
[09:15] <ben8472> uname -a
[09:15] <kostkon> kashem, also lsb_release -a
[09:16] <ducasse> kashem: 'lsb_release -a'
[09:16] <ducasse> uname only tells you the kernel version
[09:17] <ben8472> and lsb_release doesnt
[09:17] <ben8472> so need both i'd say ;P
[09:20] <ducasse> they asked for os version, which is what lsb_release tells you.
[09:21] <ducasse> but nvm
[09:21] <ben8472> fair enough
[09:24] <regrd> ducasse, how do I disable UEFI then? I'm still unable to disable secure boot, the BIOS doesn't have the option
[09:26] <ducasse> regrd: look for an option to enable legacy or csm mode, but i doubt this will solve your problem
[09:26] <regrd> Enabling CSM does exist, yes
[09:26] <regrd> What do you suggest, then?
[09:27] <ducasse> you sure you have the latest bios version?
[09:29] <Rumen> I have also problem with missing icons in the top bar. Dropbox, Mega and weather indicator missing always and classic menu indicator, skype, HP and VirtualBox Indicator sometimes appeares sometimes missing (most of the times missing. When I change different logins like Ubuntu --> Community Theme or the opposit sometimes VirtualBox indicator appear) any idea how to fix that?
[09:30] <regrd> I'm not sure, actually
[09:31] <regrd> Going to the page for my device shows the one I have as the latest
[09:31] <regrd> But other sources show that v303(mine's 300) exists too
[09:33] <regrd> zero0000, just in case you're there, I did boot without UEFI, and it's still broken
[09:35] <tomreyn> regrd: which hardware do you have there exactly, whats the model?
[09:35] <regrd> asus gl552vx, with the 6700hq
[09:35] <pi_> banana pi
[09:36] <tomreyn> regrd: so the latest firmware listed is v300, i concur. https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ROG-GL552VX/HelpDesk_BIOS/
[09:36] <regrd> Yep, that's my source
[09:37] <regrd> It looks like I won't be able to get 18.04 any time soon
[09:37] <tomreyn> regrd: if you still have warranty on this system, i'd contact them and ask for a newer bios.
[09:37] <regrd> Would they be able to supply it just for one model?
[09:38] <tomreyn> maybe
[09:38] <jez> Hi, I'm in need of a bit of help, is this the right place to ask?
[09:38] <tomreyn> they may already have it under their desk, but just didnt spent the effort to test it thouroughly.
[09:39] <tomreyn> jez: if it's about help with using ubuntu, yes!
[09:39] <regrd> I don't think I'm still under warranty, it's been over a year. That said, thanks for the help! I'll try contacting them.
[09:39] <jez> Ok, I had to add nomodeset to the grub start up commandline in order to stop a black screen bug
[09:40] <jez> However, when I have successfully booted into linux, the screen display is very slow
[09:41] <jez> I read up a bit about it and apparently it delays something at start, I was wondering if I had to start whatever it is that is delayed at boot in order to fix this
[09:41] <tomreyn> regrd: the asus warranty form states "This  warranty  applies  for  the  period  defined  on  the  label  sticker  at  the  back  of  the  Product  (“Warranty  Period”).  For  example:  24M  means  24  months,  and  36M  means  36  months  from  the  warranty  started  date.  This  warranty  commences on the date the Product was first purchased by an end-customer (“Date of Purchase”)"
[09:43] <regrd> Nice! Thanks for that info, I'll go check. I think it should still be under warranty, that's great!
[09:43] <tomreyn> jez: which graphics card do you have there?
[09:43] <jez> nvidia 960m
[09:43] <jez> I have the driver installed, is there any way to force it to run?
[09:43] <tomreyn> jez: and which ubuntu version are you trying to make work?
[09:44] <jez> I am using Linux Mint 18.3
[09:45] <tomreyn> well, this channel says "ubuntu", as you may have noticed. that's not mint
[09:45] <tomreyn> !mint
[09:45] <jez> Sorry, I thought that because mint is based off ubuntu then the solution might work as well
[09:46] <jez> I'll go ask in that channel then, thanks for help.
[09:46] <tomreyn> it might, but we don't support mint here
[09:46] <tomreyn> welcome, good luck
[09:47] <samgoody> Hi. I have SSL certs that I want readable by node and nginx.
[09:48] <samgoody> It is my understading that to do this, I should create a user for node, and then a group that includes root and nodeuser
[09:48] <samgoody> And then apply that group to the certs, since nginx runs as root.
[09:48] <samgoody> Is that correct?
[09:48] <samgoody> I mean, is that the correct way to setup permissions
[09:49] <JimBuntu> I wouldn't want node to run with root permissions, nor do I even want nginx to.
[09:51] <samgoody> Well, node is run a s a regular user. But node always has the master process run as root, even though the other processes (that handle incoming requests) as www-data by default
[09:51] <JimBuntu> samgoody, correct
[09:52] <JimBuntu> The same should be said of nginx, starts as root, so it can listen to port <1024, mainly functions as nobody/etc
[10:00] <tomreyn> samgoody: so you can probably just have those certificates accessible by root only.
[10:02] <blackflow> you can run nginx as unprivileged user, no need for root master process. Just make sure you enable the caps in the service unit file: CapabilityBoundingSet=CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE
[10:02] <samgoody> @tomreyn Node is unable to access them when it is not a root user.
[10:02] <blackflow> pretty much the same goes for any other daemon you don't want to run as root, unless that daemon has to spawn processes as several different users
[10:03] <blackflow> samgoody: put the service in a "ssl" group or whatever, then give the group read rights on the certs.
[10:03] <tomreyn> samgoody: i see, i have little experience with node.
[10:03] <samgoody> @blackflow is there any downside, since I imagine that is a big plus, considering that NGINX connects to the.. web
[10:04] <blackflow> samgoody: the only downside I've seen is that you can't use nginx' in-place upgrade feature (the USR2 singal dance)
[10:04] <samgoody> Also, the user I created for node is a system user (I had done adduser --system --no-create-home nodeserver)
[10:04] <blackflow> otherwise, none. the master process would anyway spawn workers as the non-root uid
[10:05] <samgoody> Was that wise, or should I create another user with a higher PID? And will there be an issue adding the system user to a group?
[10:05] <tomreyn> the master process should never access the web anyways, though?
[10:05] <blackflow> tomreyn: it has to accept() incoming connections
[10:05] <blackflow> that's why you need the caps to bind to port <1024
[10:07] <tomreyn> blackflow: ok, right, but if it then just passes that on, i guess it's not much of a risk.
[10:07] <tomreyn> dpened son code complexity
[10:07] <tomreyn> *depends
[10:07] <blackflow> tomreyn: sure, but running it as non-root has less to do with being available over the net. say there's a vuln in the worker, and the worker manages to escalate to root, through the master process. that way, if your master process is non-root, you've eliminated a whole class of vulns.
[10:09] <blackflow> conceptually the same thing as not having suid bins, which are sometimes used to escalate an unprivileged user to root.
[10:09] <tomreyn> blackflow: right, i uznderstand where you're coming from. i'm just saying it is designed to have a small attack surface there, and this is probably why it's the default configuration on ubuntu.
[10:10] <blackflow> tomreyn: I guess so. Still, if you can run stuff as non-root, by all means should do so :)
[10:11] <tomreyn> sure, it's always a matter of security vs. usability.
[10:11] <blackflow> btw it also eliminates the need to run user NS containers (because you don't have a root process in the container, you don't need user NS to namespace it), and user NS is a notoriously weak spot in the kernel.
[10:12]  * tomreyn doesn't use containers for isolation
[10:36] <sazawal> I am not sure if this is the right channel, but I have a small question. I want to extract all the thumbnails of the image files in a particular folder. I am trying with exiftool but it is not working. Can anyone help?
[10:43] <tomreyn> sazawal: i'm not familiar with exiftool, it should work with the "exif" command from the "exif" package.
[10:44] <tomreyn> running "exif -e Pictures/my_image.jpg" will create a thumbnail file at Pictures/my_image.jpg.modified.jpg"
[10:44] <tomreyn> running "exif -e Pictures/my_image.jpg" will create a thumbnail file at Pictures/my_image.jpg.modified.jpg
[10:44] <sazawal> tomreyn, Is exif a different package than exiftool?
[10:45] <tomreyn> sazawal: yes
[10:45] <tomreyn> sazawal: do you need to / prefer to do it with exiftool?
[10:46] <sazawal> tomreyn, thanks, let me try. No I don't have a preference. It is just that I already have exiftool installed and I have used it before for other purposes. Also, I found on google that exiftool can do it. But doesn't matter.
[10:48] <tomreyn> exiftool(1p) line 1126 states:
[10:48] <tomreyn>        exiftool -b -ThumbnailImage image.jpg > thumbnail.jpg
[10:48] <tomreyn>             Save thumbnail image from "image.jpg" to a file called "thumbnail.jpg".
[10:50] <sazawal> tomreyn, I tried the exif command "exif -e xyz.bmp" you wrote, it says "Corrupt data The data provided does not follow the specification. ExifLoader: The data supplied does not seem to contain EXIF data.
[10:50] <sazawal> "
[10:50] <tomreyn> sazawal: .bmp? do those contain an exiv structure at all?
[10:51] <sazawal> tomreyn, well, this could be a problem. But I can see the thumbnails on my nautilus, aren't those the exif thumbnails?
[10:52] <tomreyn> sazawal: i would think not. see "extended from" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exif
[10:57] <sazawal> tomreyn, You are right, wikipedia says that exif is only for jpeg, tiff and wav files. What could be an alternative for bmp? The problem is that I have 1000s of big size bmp images and it takes time to view them and arrange them. I only need useful bmp images from them.
[10:59] <JimBuntu> sazawal, ffmpeg
[11:00] <JimBuntu> ImageMagik's mogrify should work too
[11:01] <sazawal> JimBuntu, I thought ffmpeg deals with video files. I thought of mogrify to resize them. But I only found the command which replaces the original file. This means I have to make a backup of 20 GB of bmp files and then resize them. Well, now this is what I am thinking to do.
[11:02] <JimBuntu> sazawal, nope, both can be used for thumbnails
[11:03] <sazawal> JimBuntu Do you have know an alternative command for "mogrify -resize 256x256 *.bmp" which will make a copy and not replace?
[11:03] <JimBuntu> there is a -thumbnail parameter
[11:06] <kashem> is it possible to know if anyone pinging me?plz...Help
[11:06] <JimBuntu> sorry sazawal , perhaps you want to use the 'convert' program from the same package
[11:06] <sazawal> JimBuntu I tried "mogrify -thumbnail 200x200 *.bmp" but it replaces the original file. Can I modify it so that it creates file_thumb.bmp from file.bmp, or something like that?
[11:08] <MonsieurBon> On ubuntu-server, how do I make iptables configuration persistent over a reboot? Ideally the rules would be loaded before any network interfaces come up.
[11:09] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: install iptables-persistent
[11:09] <JimBuntu> blackflow, iptables-save ?
[11:10] <blackflow> JimBuntu: and then?
[11:10] <JimBuntu> I believe that's it. Now they are saved and auto-loaded next time
[11:11] <blackflow> iptables-save and -restore are just commands. you need a service that actually runs them on boot. write one manually or use the iptables-persistent, part of netfilter-persistent, group of tools.
[11:11] <zZzZzZ> you also need iptables-restore @bootup afaik, also activate iptable in sysctl
[11:11] <blackflow> what's "iptable in sysctl"
[11:11] <JimBuntu> blackflow, I presumed you already had the service, since you are using iptables
[11:12] <blackflow> JimBuntu: yup.
[11:12] <blackflow> JimBuntu: oh, wait, no. afaik you don't, without iptables-persistent package installed.
[11:12] <sazawal> JimBuntu convert did that same as "mogrify -thumbnail 200x200 *.bmp"
[11:12] <blackflow> but then.... I install ubuntu from debootstrap so I mgiht be totally off on what's default these days.
[11:13] <JimBuntu> are you against installing iptables-persistent ?
[11:13] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, I'll give iptables-persistent a go and see what's happening
[11:13] <blackflow> JimBuntu: no.   and I just checked the "iptables" package, doesn't install a service unit
[11:13] <JimBuntu> I'm sorry blackflow , I confused your name with MonsieurBon
[11:14] <JimBuntu> You can add the restore to /etc/rc.local if a very simple solution is desired
[11:15] <blackflow> if your ubuntu comes with systemd, then writing an actual service unit file is even more simpler and better.
[11:16] <JimBuntu> or iptables-presistent OR write a simple init that has a runlevel immediately below or equal to networking
[11:16] <JimBuntu> heck, default start 2 3 4 5
[11:17] <JimBuntu> MonsieurBon, don't forget the ip6tables if using IPv6
[11:19] <MonsieurBon> Ok, blackflow, JimBuntu, what's the recommended way? :-D To install iptables-persistent sounds pretty simple.
[11:20] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, I'm using 18.04 so systemd is there
[11:21] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: iptables-persistent. iirc it will ask you, upon installation, if you want to store the current iptables  settings. choose yes. then edit /etc/iptables/rules.{v4,v6} as you wish. use iptables-restore (check the manpage) to apply changes immediately. and that's it.
[11:21] <blackflow> iptables-restore and ip6tables-restore
[11:23] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, installation is done by ansible, so no asking my upon installation... do I need to enable anything in systemctl?
[11:25] <yx_> yx
[11:25] <yx_> help
[11:25] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: the netfilter-persistent.service is activated automatically upon installation
[11:25] <lenny> hi, having problem with external HDD under ubuntu 16.04 error mounting /dev/sdb1 at /media/.../Expansion Drive: Command-line mount-t"ntfs"-o
[11:25] <lenny> "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000""/dev/sdb1""/media/.../Expansion Drive"exited with non-zero exit status 13:$MFTMirr does not match $MFT(record 0)
[11:25] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: note that iptables-persistent is a plugin of netfilter-persistent toolset.
[11:25] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, Ok great. I'll install the package and reboot and see what happens
[11:26] <EriC^^> lenny: try booting in windows and run chkdsk
[11:26] <lenny> EriC^^, i don't have win
[11:26] <yx_> dislog
[11:27] <lenny> EriC^^, is external HDD
[11:27] <EriC^^> lenny: you could try ntfsfix in ubuntu
[11:28] <yx_> uptime
[11:29] <lenny> EriC^^, thanks, Ill have a look ...
[11:30] <EriC^^> lenny: it can fix mft issues
[11:30] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g && sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb1
[11:34] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, perfect, works like a charm. It made me wonder though, should I change the policies in rules.v6 to drop?
[11:34] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: that's your choice, no? :)
[11:35] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, of course, yes! :-) I'm not using any ipv6, but having the policies on ACCEPT basically leaves the ipv6 firewall wide open, right?
[11:38] <tomreyn> MonsieurBon: if you don't want ipv6, then don't assign ipv6 addresses to your NICs. and set the defaul policies to deny for ipv6.
[11:38] <tomreyn> s/and/or/
[11:39] <MonsieurBon> tomreyn, how do I make sure that no ipv6 addresses are assigned to the NICs?
[11:40] <MonsieurBon> tomreyn, /etc/netplan/50-cloud-init.yaml has no ipv6 addresses, but ifconfig still shows them
[11:40] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: yeah, if you don't have an IPv6 set up (other then the automatic link local one) then it probably doesn't matter. My OCD would have a rule for ipv6 with everything DROP'ed anyway, though. :)
[11:40] <tomreyn> MonsieurBon: you don't manually assign any (remove any static assignments from configuration files, if any), and don't do DHCP for IPv6.
[11:42] <tomreyn> huh, right, you'd want to drop, not deny.
[11:42] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: fe80:....   addresses are link local, there's always one, if your kernel supports the ipv6 stack and it does. do you have any other ipv6 addrs assigned?
[11:45] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, how about 2001:: addresses?
[11:45] <blackflow> that's a public one, it'd appear
[11:46] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, I have two such entries on my external interface
[11:46] <tomreyn> you can also disable the ipv6 stack using sysctl https://askubuntu.com/questions/440649/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-14-04
[11:47] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: hmm, maybe. Had to look it up. that belongs to ipv6 over ipv4 tunneling, so it may or may not be a public one
[11:47] <blackflow> routed publicly, I mean
[11:47] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, but the configuration in /run/systemd/network/ shows only ipv4 addresses.
[11:48] <blackflow> MonsieurBon: well if you're not using ipv6, it won't hurt to DROP all packets in rules.v6.
[11:48] <fotonzade> fellas what do we do when there's just a grub command line on boot
[11:48] <fotonzade> after installing ubuntu
[11:49] <blackflow> usually we flip the table.
[11:49] <fotonzade> aye I've already tried that though
[11:49] <fotonzade> I need something more productive
[11:51] <tomreyn> fotonzade: if i knew how to boot it manually, i'd do that. alternatviel i'd boot from a live / installer usb stick (with the same ubuntu verison on it) and mount the file systems of the persistent installation and then chroot to them, running update-grub and grub-install again.
[11:51] <fotonzade> tomreyn, well it happened on someone else's computer and I don't have direct access to it
[11:51] <MonsieurBon> blackflow, I'll just DROP them. I guess that's the quickest way.
[11:52] <fotonzade> should I tell him to just reinstall? would that possibly fix it
[11:54] <tomreyn> fotonzade: not if they'll reinstall the same way. also they will loose data in case they already stored / created some
[11:55] <fotonzade> there's no data stored
[11:55] <fotonzade> but you may be right
[11:55] <fotonzade> https://askubuntu.com/questions/616811/gnu-grub-terminal-instead-of-ubuntu-login-screen
[11:55] <fotonzade> trying this
[11:57] <tomreyn> fotonzade: a possible cause for this issue is when the user (permanently) changes boot order to put the installer first to make the computer boot it. they should instead use the BIOS' temporary boot order override option.
[11:58] <fotonzade> hmm
[12:04] <NaSABag> hi there again everybody
[12:05] <NaSABag> I have installed ubuntu on my system, there is a problem though. In windows I could choose and configure how much CPU utilization the system could use. Reducing my over all wattage, electricity cost and heat. How can I do that in ubuntu?
[12:05] <NaSABag> It seems my cpu is being fully used to the brink which is not desired?
[12:06] <NaSABag> btw I want this to eba  system wide setting not per executable setting
[12:09] <carlos> hey ppl
[12:09] <carlos> someone who can help me with my ethernet connection? just installed ubuntu 18.04...
[12:11] <BangDef> hello
[12:12] <tomreyn> NaSABag: https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling
[12:12] <tomreyn> NaSABag: you may also be able to do it on your bios.
[12:13] <NaSABag> I have checked the bios thing, it seems like it is disregarded by the system magically
[12:13] <NaSABag> very odd
[12:13] <NaSABag> I have set it to never go beyond 3.3 GHz but it does
[12:13] <NaSABag> it goes up to 4
[12:14] <NaSABag> considering the user to be non existence. having a mind of its own
[12:15] <tomreyn> i'm afraid we cannot help you debug your mainboard firmware here.
[12:17] <tomreyn> for intel cpus you can also use thermald https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_frequency_scaling#CPU_frequency_driver
[12:20] <NaSABag> thank you tomreyn
[12:20] <NaSABag> huge help
[12:23] <tomreyn> welcome ;)
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:33] <phablet> -=()
[12:41] <rafay> Hello everyone
[12:44] <dedze> Hi, how suspicious is it if about 4 hours is missing from sys.log, auth.log and ufw.log? Is it possible that nothing happened while the laptop was suspended?
[12:46] <operator-error> dedze: there's nothing suspicious.  If the laptop is suspended then the laptop is suspended.
[12:46] <blackflow> dedze: suspended? well yeah. the cpu halted, so nothing could've happened.
[12:47] <dedze> operator-error: blackflow Oki thanks guys, I'm still learning a lot hehe :) have a nice day
[13:25] <bslkd> hello
[13:29] <V7> hey all
[13:31] <V7> Can I use a rule in fstab like "defaults,iocharset=utf8,nofail" ?
[13:31] <V7> So, defaults has already iocharset, but ... can I override it or I should rewrite all rule manually ?
[13:41] <freakyy> hi all. i have a question. i got a new laptop. now i wanna boot ubuntu beside win10. but i want ubuntu to also use the fast bootup possibility of the ssd. now how can i use as few space on the ssd but still boot very fast. i have only 20GBs free on the ssd so the whole ubuntu wont fit on it anyway. but i need some space for windows too. is putting only /boot enough to make ubuntu boot fast?
[13:42] <freakyy> would be nice if someoen could help me
[13:42] <freakyy> ;D
[13:48] <ryan_> Hey guys, my trackpad stopped working for about 30min after login
[13:51] <brainwash> freakyy: I assume that having /boot on the ssd will only help slightly
[13:59] <ghi> Hello
[14:01] <ryan_> how do i use journal to display trackpad logs
[14:01] <ghi> hello I just want to know what is the purpose of "/?q=test&t=canonical&ia=web" everytime I search on my browser ?
[14:03] <brainwash> ryan_: journalctl
[14:03] <s-falken> quick question: is LXDE worthy of consideration if it's planning to be end-of-life'd by LXQt?
[14:04] <brainwash> s-falken: shouldn't you ask that in the lxde/lxqt channel?
[14:04] <ryan_> sorry i meant journalctl
[14:04] <s-falken> will do, sorry
[14:04] <ryan_> journalctl | grep trackpad does nothing
[14:04] <brainwash> ryan_: run journalctl, and scroll down to the bottom
[14:05] <brainwash> ryan_: check the recent lines
[14:05] <ryan_> hmmm the trackpad died on its own, i didnt do anything. sometime like after 20minutes from boot. always.
[14:06] <brainwash> so, no related messages in the log?
[14:07] <ryan_> nope
[14:07] <ryan_> is grep trackpad right?
[14:07] <Thedarkb-X40> I'm using lubuntu
[14:07] <Thedarkb-X40> It seems filter keys are turned on.
[14:07] <brainwash> ryan_: probably not if it does not give you any results
[14:07] <Thedarkb-X40> I never turned them on and can't find how to turn them off.
[14:08] <Thedarkb-X40> I had a look on the forums but no luck.
[14:08] <ryan_> anyidea what i should grep for?
[14:09] <Thedarkb-X40> What's your problem?
[14:09] <Menzador> In Lubuntu it should be under the keyboard options someplace, don't remember where exactly
[14:09] <brainwash> ryan_: nothing, like I said
[14:09] <brainwash> ryan_: open the whole thing and scroll down to the very bottom
[14:10] <brainwash> ryan_: alternatively, run "dmesg"
[14:10] <Thedarkb-X40> Menzador, There's a forum post about it but it says he found another thread but didn't say where
[14:11] <Thedarkb-X40> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2375029
[14:11] <kraghot> hi guys, I have a question. When debugging my app I get the application is not responding popup which seems to disable all mouse clicks to qtcreator (which I'm using for debugging) and other applications such as hexchat or firefox. What can I do about this because it is very annoying? Google wasn't helpful at all
[14:13] <Menzador> Thedarkb-X40: Yeah, I used to use Lubuntu on lower-spec hardware before CloudReady was a thing
[14:15] <R13ose> Hi
[14:17] <R13ose> This dialog appears: Configuration file "/home/test/.config/kreadconfig5rc" not writeable.
[14:17] <R13ose> What do I do?
[14:54] <mray> When using disc encryption: can I install over an old installation and not lose content of /home?
[14:57] <SwedeMike> mray: not if you want to encrypt /home as well.
[14:58] <BluesKaj> mray, afaik only if you have separate / and /home partitions and install to / and set the mountpoint for /home during the manual partitoninmg phase.
[14:58] <mray> where can I see how my partitions are set up?
[14:59] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> mray, gparted
[15:02] <mray> there is only one big encrypted ubuntu-vg partition - i can't see inside that with gparted I think.
[15:02] <pavlos> R13ose: you may need sudo to do some things ... which release are you running?
[15:03] <R13ose> Pa
[15:03] <R13ose> pavlos: 18.04
[15:03] <pavlos> doug16k: as user test? I assume KDE
[15:05] <pavlos> doug16k: using your file manager, you can get a detailed view and see permissions for that file
[15:05] <doug16k> are you sure you have the right person? which file?
[15:06] <R13ose> pavlos: yes user test and KDE.  There are many files not just one
[15:06] <nicofrand> Hi! How can I know to which device/disk "ata2" refers to here : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bNGpMS4mRx/ ? None of the solutions in the following link are working : https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/103334/given-a-kernel-ata-exception-how-to-determine-which-physical-disk-is-affected. It looks like there is no ata2 device/disk (but the error st
[15:06] <nicofrand> ill appears)
[15:08] <enissay2> where's the weechat.config file located please ?
[15:10] <rypervenche> mray: Are you trying to reinstall over an existing LUKS container?
[15:10] <rypervenche> enissay2: In ~/.weechat
[15:18] <kashem> is it possible to know if anyone pinging me?plz...Help
[15:19] <R13ose> pavlos: any other thoughts?
[15:20] <enissay2> rypervenche: btw, which one is the custom config file: weechat.config or irc.conf ?
[15:21] <rypervenche> enissay2: You should go through all of the files in there. They are all custom configurations, although some of them get changed by what you type inside of weechat.
[15:21] <rypervenche> enissay2: What are you trying to do, exactly?
[15:23] <enissay2> just set up default values: default channels to join by default, default nicknames per server & psw
[15:23] <enissay2> rypervenche: ^
[15:24] <rypervenche> enissay2: I would set up the server with: "/server add"
[15:24] <rypervenche> enissay2: https://weechat.org/files/doc/devel/weechat_quickstart.en.html
[15:25] <enissay2> rypervenche: thx :-)
[15:29] <pavlos> doug16k: I dont have KDE but check if there is a process ... ps -ef | grep dolphin
[15:31] <R13ose> pavlos: yes there is
[15:32] <pavlos> doug16k: quit dolphin and try again. What program causes this message?
[15:35] <doug16k> pavlos, I think you mean R13ose, not me
[15:35] <pavlos> doug16k: sorry doug
[15:35] <doug16k> no problem :)
[15:37] <R13ose> pavlos: I did that but still dialogs come up
[15:39] <pavlos> R13ose: please give some details ... I cannot see your screen. Tell me what you do and maybe, I or others, can help
[15:41] <R13ose> pavlos: I killed the dolphin processes like you said to do.
[15:42] <pavlos> R13ose: you exited dolphin so all you may have is a terminal on screen. Now, what do you do and see that error message?
[15:43] <R13ose> pavlos: I did nothing and the dialog box comes up again
[15:44] <pavlos> R13ose: if one has KDE experience they can jump in ...
[15:54] <BluesKaj> R13ose, /home/user/.config/kreadconfig5rc doesn't exist here. Open Viwe>hidden files in Dolphin>.config ...pehaps that  "kreadconfig5rc" file exists on your machine, but not mine
[15:54] <BluesKaj> er View
[15:54] <fddsafsd> ttp://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-updates Release
[15:54] <fddsafsd>   404  Not Found
[15:54] <fddsafsd> why ????
[15:55] <fddsafsd> is there a command line parameter for apt install so I install from default U.S urls ?
[15:57] <jrgilman> Alright, I have an issue, I'm trying to build glabels 3.4.1 from source on 16.04. I'm trying to run the configure portion but it's complaining that I'm missing librsvg-2.0. The only thing that shows up for ubuntu is librsvg2 (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librsvg). I tried installing librsvg2-bin, but the issue persists. I was wondering if this is because the configure script is looking for it by a different name?
[15:57] <test1337> i am having troubles installing ubuntu on fedora.
[15:57] <BluesKaj> fddsafsd, if you chose your location as US during the install then the package manager will defualt to the US mirrors
[15:58] <ducasse> fddsafsd: zesty is eol, you need to upgrade
[15:58] <ducasse> !eolupgrade
[15:58] <BluesKaj> zesty uhhmm
[15:59] <fddsafsd> oh ok
[15:59] <fddsafsd> so I have to move on to 18.04 now
[15:59] <fddsafsd> ok, thats fine
[16:00] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I don't see that there but also can't open dolphin as the service error comes up but with dolphinrc
[16:02] <BluesKaj> R13ose, eeuww, not good
[16:04] <BluesKaj> R13ose, does dolphin open with, dbus-launch dolphin
[16:04] <BluesKaj> in the konsole
[16:06] <R13ose> BluesKaj: both ways work after I click ok on dialogs
[16:13] <BluesKaj> R13ose, ok in the dolphin addreesbar paste this: /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kf5-settings/dolphinrc, if the file opens in kate or kwrite make sure it contains these lines: [IconsMode] and below that,  IconSize=64...64 is the size I use due to my large monitor , it could be any number from16 up  , and it could be totally irrelevant , not sure
[16:20] <mustafa> The /var/log is taking all my disk space after updating Ubuntu to latest LTS, is there something I can do to clear it?
[16:23] <kiokoman> mustafa: is logrotate working ?
[16:24] <mustafa> kiokoman: Not sure, let me check how I can check :D
[16:26] <mustafa> kiokoman: How can I do that?
[16:26] <kiokoman> mustafa: first check if it's installed -> apt install logrotate
[16:28] <brenster21> great. l
[16:28] <mustafa> kiokoman: It is installed
[16:31] <kiokoman> mustafa: which file is the most big inside /var/log ?
[16:32] <mustafa> kiokoman: I don't know, I opened disk usage in Ubuntu but it needs to run in super permissions and I don't know the command to run it with sudo from terminal
[16:33] <kiokoman> open the terminal -> cd /var/log -> ls -la
[16:34] <mustafa> Xorg.0.log
[16:35] <mustafa> almost 39 Gigs!
[16:35] <kiokoman> well u can delete it
[16:35] <kiokoman> sudo rm Xorg.0.log
[16:36] <mustafa> kiokoman: I did now, and I did that a couple of days ago but it keeps on showing up
[16:36] <kiokoman> of course, but why is that big idk
[16:36] <kiokoman> i use only terminal i don't know nothing about window manager
[16:39] <Rumen> Anyone can help with the icons in the top bar?
[16:42] <Iarla> On 18.04, the command:  apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop, fails with: "E: Unable to locate package". Do I have the right package?
[16:44] <flux242> what would be the mime type (name) for a directory? I can't seem to find it. For some reason firefox opens mousepad instead of the download folder in thunar
[16:46] <blackflow> Iarla: do you have universe enabled? it's in universe now.
[16:47] <tgm4883> kiokoman: You'd have to look at what's in the log to determine why it's getting so big
[16:48] <tgm4883> ugh, I apparently fail at reading
[16:50] <freakyy> brainwash: ok umm, is there any way i can make it all fast? without using too much space?
[17:01] <MikeRL> Ugh. Malware was found on the snap store.
[17:01] <MikeRL> Does Ubuntu come with AppArmor or SELinux enabled by default?
[17:02] <MikeRL> And is there a way to enable them?
[17:02] <Rumen> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5410  @ 2.33GHz (2,33GHz) • Memory: Physical: 15,3 GiB Total (7,0 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 0 bytes / 0 bytes (0 bytes Free) • Uptime: 8h 59m 58s
[17:04] <crimson_king> MikeRL: AppArmor yes
[17:04] <crimson_king> by default
[17:05] <MikeRL> I'm wondering if future releases will have more security features enabled by default. With Mark Shuttleworth speaking on 18.10 focusing on security.
[17:05] <MikeRL> They need to do stuff like this and test it before an LTS drops.
[17:05] <crimson_king> not so aggressive like SELinux, but causes less trouble for users. More convenient.
[17:05] <MikeRL> Is there any way to extend AppArmor?
[17:06] <MikeRL> I think there's a package in the default repos that does that.
[17:06] <ducasse> MikeRL: extend to do what?
[17:06] <MikeRL> More packages.
[17:06] <MikeRL> Does it protect the web browser by default?
[17:07] <ucc> Hi there any idea how to refresh the top bar? I have missing icons ...
[17:07] <ducasse> MikeRL: iirc, there is a firefox profile
[17:07] <Iarla> blackflow: I have universe enabled, yes. Or at least, according to the Software & Sources application it is.
[17:08] <MikeRL> ducasse, Good.
[17:08] <MikeRL> Anyone else here about a crypto miner on the snap store?
[17:08] <MikeRL> Something needs to be done to prevent that from repeating itself again.
[17:09] <Guest84935> @search presentations
[17:10] <Iarla> Has anyone else installed Unity desktop on 18.04 that could share how they did it?
[17:11] <MikeRL> *hear
[17:11] <MikeRL> Darn my spelling.
[17:12] <Iarla> There's a package just called 'unity'. Maybe the package has been renamed?
[17:13] <brainwash> freakyy: not sure
[17:15] <ubuntu-mate> s
[17:15] <ubuntu-mate> hi gays
[17:16] <brainwash> freakyy: a simple ubuntu installation shouldn't consume that much space. you can put /home on the hdd
[17:16] <loeqie> he
[17:16] <gebruiker_> he
[17:17] <gebruiker_> hallo
[17:17] <gebruiker_> dawoed dit is cool
[17:17] <loeqie> lloeqie
[17:17] <loeqie> heet ik
[17:17] <loeqie> kom we gaan ergens anders
[17:18] <gebruiker_> ok
[17:18] <mikhael_k33hl> Anyone using rxvt-unicode in Ubuntu? Are you able to make the url-select(no mouse) work?
[17:18] <brainwash> mikhael_k33hl: isn't that explained in the man page?
[17:25] <mikhael_k33hl> brainwash: yep, but it isn't working. I have this in my .Xresources https://gist.github.com/marzdgzmn/d5c5badd94d3b941712eff7796dfe656 however, displaying a file with urls in it doesn't highlight it
[17:27] <brainwash> mikhael_k33hl: does it load the url-select script?
[17:27] <mikhael_k33hl> brainwash: where can I determine that?
[17:27] <mikhael_k33hl> brainwash: I have the url-select perl script under /usr/lib/urxvt/perl/
[17:29] <Iarla> When upgrading from 16.04 -> 18.04, the Unity packages get upgraded anyway so no need to install anything :)
[17:29] <brainwash> mikhael_k33hl: did you load the .Xresources? or, do other urxvt customization work?
[17:29] <brainwash> mikhael_k33hl: just making sure
[17:29] <pavlushka> any site like termbin (seems down)  to paste from terminal?
[17:31] <brainwash> mikhael_k33hl: I cannot spot anything wrong with your shared snippet
[17:34] <mikhael_k33hl> brainwash: this is my .Xresources file: https://gist.github.com/marzdgzmn/848fa7cb551635a09dad2ab803dda85f
[17:35] <mikhael_k33hl> yup, did xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
[17:38] <brainwash> mikhael_k33hl: which version of rxvt-unicode is that?
[17:38] <brainwash> starting with 9.21 there is the "matcher" extension which replaces url-select
[17:38] <brainwash> in this case you could test with matcher instead
[17:38] <mikhael_k33hl> rxvt-unicode (urxvt) v9.21 - released: 2014-12-31
[17:39] <mikhael_k33hl> matcher doesn't support vi like keys
[17:39] <brainwash> well, I suggest asking in the rxvt-unicode channel then
[17:40] <salamanderrake> how would I find out why 'do-release-upgrade' wouldn't pick up on ubuntu 18.04 release?
[17:41] <mikhael_k33hl> brainwash: okay thanks
[17:41] <brainwash> salamanderrake: are you on 17.10?
[17:41] <salamanderrake> yes brainwash
[17:42] <brainwash> that is odd then
[17:43] <ioria> salamanderrake,  set to normal or lts ?
[17:43] <salamanderrake> where at?
[17:43] <ioria> salamanderrake,  grep Prompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:44] <salamanderrake> ok, no such file
[17:45] <ioria> salamanderrake,  ls /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:45] <doug16k> salamanderrake, this is what mine looks like: https://gist.github.com/doug65536/aae467e6d131403ae29343f4fe6f621a
[17:45] <salamanderrake> ioria: normal
[17:46] <ioria> salamanderrake,  have you tried the -d flag ? do-release-upgrade -d
[17:47] <salamanderrake> Upgrades to the development release are only
[17:47] <salamanderrake> available from the latest supported release.
[17:48] <ioria> salamanderrake,  ok, try to change 'normal' to 'lts' and try again without the -d flag
[17:48] <salamanderrake> no luck
[17:49] <ioria> salamanderrake,  revert to norma
[17:49] <salamanderrake> I did
[17:49] <ioria> salamanderrake, are you using wayland or xorg ?
[17:49] <salamanderrake> xorg
[17:52] <salamanderrake> I will just figure it out later or just do a new install
[17:53] <ioria> salamanderrake, are you fully updated ?
[17:53] <ioria> salamanderrake, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:59] <sere_> for some reason im only get 60 fps with glx gears.. i have the correct repo install for my card. any ideas why its going so slow
[18:00] <sere_> OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.1 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5
[18:00] <sere_> OpenGL renderer string: AMD KABINI (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.15.0-21-generic, LLVM 6.0.0)
[18:02] <sere_> glxinfo shows the driver as a extended renderer too and has mesa as the driver.. dunno if thats normal
[18:04] <brainwash> sere_: run "vblank_mode=0 glxgears"
[18:05] <AlexPortable> How do I make my external disk actually stay spinned down after removing it in 'Computer' ? I click on 'safely remove', then it'll spin down for 2 seconds, and then spin up again and get mounted again..
[18:05] <sere_> brainwash: ok now thats alittle better 7966 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1593.125 FPS
[18:06] <sere_> brainwash: should i be worrieed whats that vblank?
[18:06] <brainwash> sere_: it's vsync
[18:07] <sere_> brainwash: ok i will check it out thank you :)
[18:07] <brainwash> you're welcome
[18:08] <brainwash> AlexPortable: maybe it's bug 792085
[18:09] <brainwash> which is a quite old report with many comments and duplicates
[18:10] <brainwash> AlexPortable: are you still on 14.04 (trusty)?
[18:10] <sere_> AlexPortable: i might be wrong but something could be automounting it in nautilus or gvfs
[18:11] <mray> ever since the upgrade vom 17.10->18.04 my nvidia drivers don't work despite bing installed - what can I do?
[18:11] <sere_> i think there might be a way to blacklist it so it wont automount but you could still mount it
[18:16] <astronaut_> Does anyone know a simple way to control my cpu fan speed?
[18:18] <Gegsite> bios
[18:20] <`whoami`> or fancontrol
[18:21] <`whoami`> or pwm_config or whatever it's called
[18:22] <asdafdsasd> hello, is magic trackpad2 working with ubuntu 18.10 ?
[18:22] <asdafdsasd> or any version of kernel
[18:23] <asdafdsasd> and whats the channel # for unity ?
[18:23] <asdafdsasd> the desktop environment
[18:23] <asdafdsasd> is gnome the default desktop environment 18.10+ onwards?
[18:23] <brainwash> 17.10+ I think
[18:24] <brainwash> 18.10 is the current development release
[18:24] <brainwash> unity questions can be asked in this channel
[18:27] <ph88> Bashing-om, ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04
[18:28] <ph88> how can i figure out why this kernel doesn't install ?   https://bpaste.net/show/601bfe2c8a98
[18:29] <ph88> hhmm maybe it's too old .. i will try a newer one first
[18:30] <brainwash> ph88: I would try this https://askubuntu.com/a/916283
[18:33] <brainwash> ph88: after doing that the next installation attempt should skip that particular hook script
[18:35] <gambl0re> xkill isnt doing anything. what should i do?
[18:35] <ioria> gambl0re, maybe you're on wayland
[18:35] <AlexPortable> brainwash: yes
[18:36] <AlexPortable> brainwash: is it fixed in 18.04 ?
[18:36] <brainwash> AlexPortable: it should be
[18:36] <gambl0re> whats wayland
[18:37] <brainwash> AlexPortable: also in 16.04
[18:37] <ph88> thx brainwash
[18:37] <AlexPortable> why does the bugtracker show 	Confirmed
[18:37] <AlexPortable> and not resolved
[18:40] <Osmodivs> Hello, I have Ubuntu-GNOME 16.04.4 64bits. When I type make to compile Blender the machine starts to compile but after a few seconds the machine will freeze and I need to reset, it's been 3 times now this past minutes, How can I find what's wrong? is it a hardware issue or software issue?
[18:41] <matjam> i'd suspect bad ram
[18:41] <matjam> maybe a bad disk
[18:42] <Osmodivs> matjam, the RAM and SSD are only a few months old...
[18:42] <matjam> that doesn't really matter
[18:42] <brainwash> AlexPortable: it shows resolved for ubuntu versions released after 14.04
[18:42] <matjam> hardware can and does fail before it's MBTF.
[18:43] <Osmodivs> matjam, Is there to review a log to maybe find out the root?
[18:43] <matjam> there's the magic sysreq key thing that might be able to get you a kernel dump if kernel is able to still intercept keyboard interrupts
[18:44] <AlexPortable> brainwash: okay thanks
[18:44] <matjam> Osmodivs: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html its for server but should work the same on desktop install
[18:44] <Osmodivs> matjam, Is it not available after reboot?
[18:44] <brainwash> AlexPortable: I don't feel like reading through the whole report, so I don't know the details
[18:45] <SporkWitch> Getting a bit stuck on doing initial upload to a new ppa.  Is i debuild -sa it rejects for mixed binary/source, but if i debuild -s it complains that it doesn't have an orig.tar.gz
[18:45] <AlexPortable> brainwash: well when i search for 'resolved' i cant find it
[18:45] <matjam> if something has crashed, you kind of need to debug it while it's crashed
[18:45] <brainwash> AlexPortable: maybe installing a newer kernel version could fix it
[18:45] <matjam> you might see something in /var/log/syslog if you go through it and look for the last message printed before reboot
[18:46] <matjam> but it sounds like something is locking the system up hard
[18:46] <brainwash> AlexPortable: look at the "affected packages" list at the top. it shows "fix released"
[18:46] <matjam> I've seen that behavior when the CPU goes over temp, but usually thats accompanied by a screaming speaker
[18:47] <matjam> Osmodivs: are you overclocking the system at all?
[18:47] <matjam> Osmodivs: sometimes if you go into the bios and choose "safe defaults" and boot with that configuration, it can reset a bad bios option that is causing issues.
[18:48] <User_____> Hi, I would like to know how to enable compositing in Ubuntu 18.04 using GNOME Flashback(Metacity)
[18:49] <matjam> Osmodivs: Hhttps://www.memtest86.com/ I'd give that a shot too.
[18:51] <Pavel> Hi all, I want to use the new "Ubuntu mate 18.04" in persistent mode (but it requires a default account and password) https://prnt.sc/jhbthd
[18:52] <Pavel> Does anyone know the default account and password?
[18:54] <ph88> i installed kernel 3.2.68 but my server still boots from 2.6.32 ... how can i change booting kernel ?
[18:59] <asdafdsasd> hi
[18:59] <asdafdsasd> howw do I write a MacOS dmg image to a pendrive
[18:59] <asdafdsasd> brainwash: so trackpad works out of the box for 17.10+ ?
[18:59] <asdafdsasd> great thanks
[19:00] <itsfemme[m]> I'm on bionic and I get consistent kernel crashes on bootup unless I use special kernel flags, I reported a bug but there was no followup really. I'm using ryzen so I don't think it's all that obscure. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1747463
[19:02] <ph88> how can i find out what is the oldest kernel for each ubuntu version ?
[19:02] <brainwash> asdafdsasd: did I claim that?
[19:03] <brainwash> asdafdsasd: not sure if having gnome DE as default makes your trackpad magically work ootb
[19:04] <brainwash> itsfemme[m]: best to head over to #ubuntu-kernel
[19:05] <ioria> itsfemme[m], have you tried 4.16 ?
[19:05] <brainwash> ph88: as in the version which was available initially after release?
[19:07] <phablet> hey
[19:08] <itsfemme[m]> ioria: yes i did try 4.16
[19:09] <ioria> itsfemme[m], and ?
[19:09] <itsfemme[m]> and it did not work otherwise I would have said that in the bug report
[19:11] <ioria> itsfemme[m],  no mention of 4.16 in the bug report ...
[19:12] <ioria> itsfemme[m],  and 4.17 rc is available now
[19:16] <phinxy> Bionic; I know /etc/network/interfaces but there is some other layer on top I dont recognize.
[19:16] <phinxy> How do I specify a static IP-address on eth0?
[19:17] <Sven_vB> what would be a good approach to enforce a typing speed limit on USB keyboards, and ideally disable ("float" in xinput terms) it when it tyoes too fast?
[19:17] <ioria> phinxy, /etc/netplan
[19:18] <phinxy> ioria• Thats it
[19:18] <ioria> yep
[19:24] <Sven_vB> I could of course make a keylogger that listens to all keyboards it can find, but maybe there's a more efficient way to measure typing speed. I just decided I'd prefer to monitor total typing speed anyway, independent from which keyboards are involved.
[19:27] <Markdown1_> is this a third party site or related to Ubuntu? https://ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker.org/
[19:31] <SlidingHorn> Markdown1_: third party, I believe
[19:46]  * skatetensor salutes
[19:46] <brenster21> r
[19:52] <Styil> yo
[19:52] <Styil> how do I update my kernel to a release candidate
[19:52] <Styil> could really use a feature that is in one of them
[19:53] <yeats> !mainline | Styil
[20:07] <Menzador> Are the Ubuntu developers considering a vanilla GNOME option at install time?
[20:09] <ph88> i ran a command with    runuser -l user -c "myCommand"    but myCommand does a sudo .. now i enter my root password and it doesn't accept it .. is that to be expected ?
[20:09] <ikonia> what's not vanilla about the default gnome install Menzador ?
[20:09] <ikonia> ph88: "doesn't accept" ?
[20:09] <ikonia> what's the error
[20:10] <Styil> hmm
[20:10] <Styil> for installing the mainline kernels
[20:10] <ph88> ikonia, it just prompt me for the password again and gives up after 3 tries
[20:10] <Styil> do I need to install the modules as well?
[20:11] <ikonia> ph88: what user are you actually executing the "runuser" command as (not what user is -l)
[20:11] <ph88> ghost
[20:11] <ph88> eh ghostserver
[20:11] <ikonia> ph88: is that the same user as the -l $user ?
[20:12] <Menzador> ikonia, did 18.04 revert to vanilla GNOME?
[20:12] <ph88> ikonia,  i am logged in as root and i execute:   runuser -l ghostserver -c "myCommand"
[20:12] <ikonia> Menzador: as in unity gone ?
[20:12] <ikonia> ph88: ok, so "root" is the user running runuser
[20:12] <ph88> yes
[20:12] <Menzador> ikonia, well, 17.10 was skinned to look like Unity with the shell extensions and all
[20:12] <ikonia> ph88: can you paste the exact line you run please
[20:12] <ikonia> lets have a look at the syntax
[20:12] <ikonia> Menzador: it has a theme, colours etc
[20:12] <ikonia> not seen it looks specifically like unity though
[20:13] <ph88> ikonia,    runuser -l $GHOST_USER_NAME -c "cd /var/www/ghost; ghost install"
[20:13] <Menzador> I mean, 17.10 used a fork of Dash to Dock that wasn't easily able to be disabled...
[20:13] <ikonia> ph88: there is no "sudo" in that command
[20:13] <ikonia> Menzador: interesting, I dind't know that
[20:14] <ph88> ikonia, "ghost install" will execute some stuff and then    sudo adduser blabla
[20:15] <ikonia> ph88: so that will be spawning a seperate shell
[20:15] <ph88> ok
[20:15] <Menzador> ikonia, Yeah, as a user of both GNOME *and* Dash to Dock I didn't really like that behaviour much :P but having just upgraded to Pop!_OS 18.04 LTS we don't have that
[20:16] <dchapman> while upgrading, apt will sometimes give me recommended packages. Any way to find out why it's recced, to make a decision on whether or not to install it?
[20:21] <ardnew> hi, whenever i search apt for a package that turns out to be a virtual package (e.g. "apt show ctags"), it tells me it cant give me details because it isnt a real package. how can i see what -real- packages will be installed if i install a virtual package (e.g. "apt install ctags") ?
[20:21] <SlidingHorn> dchapman: I don't believe there's any mechanism that specifically gives the reason, however, you can go to packages.ubuntu.com to read about the recommended package and make your inferences from there
[20:22] <Styil> hmm
[20:22] <Styil> when installing the mainline builds, I get the following error
[20:22] <Styil> linux-image-unsigned-4.17.0-041700rc4-generic depends on linux-modules-4.17.0-041700rc4-generic; however:
[20:22] <Styil>   Package linux-modules-4.17.0-041700rc4-generic is not installed.
[20:22] <Styil> should I install the modules as well?
[20:23] <SlidingHorn> ardnew: that's also a good use for packages.ubuntu.com   --   also you can   sudo apt install -s package_name to simulate the installation without actually making changes
[20:23] <dchapman> SlidingHorn: Ok, thanks.
[20:24] <ardnew> SlidingHorn: ok thanks, also it looks like 'apt-cache showpkg ctags' gives me the info underneath the "Reverse Provides:" section
[20:26] <ph88> when i login as another user with    su - other    how do i go back to the previous user ?
[20:26] <SlidingHorn> ph88: exit
[20:27] <Styil> or alternatively su (username), since that is apparently a thing now
[20:28] <thorsten__> hello,i use the new LTS 18.4 the Problem the Streamtuner 2 is not working ????
[20:31] <SlidingHorn> !details | thorsten__
[20:34] <FishPencil> Does DD handle partitioning of a drive? If I write an iso with dd to a usb drive, will the drive be bootable in a BIOS system
[20:34] <ikonia> it's block level
[20:34] <ikonia> it has no knowledge of the data
[20:35] <Random832> FishPencil, the image may already be partitioned (also I don't think USB drives have to be partitioned to be bootable)
[20:35] <rypervenche> FishPencil: It will if the image was created with USB booting in mind.
[20:35] <Random832> but not all ISOs are bootable as USB images
[20:35] <FishPencil> Does the drive need to be cleared first?
[20:35] <skatetensor> FishPencil: If you are trying to create a live usb , take a look at etchet :)
[20:35] <skatetensor> etcher*
[20:35] <Random832> well, you'll want to make backups of anything important that was on the drive
[20:36] <rypervenche> FishPencil: Nope. The file systems before will get overwritten.
[20:36] <Random832> more importantly if the iso you downloaded didn't *say* you can write it to a usb drive, it might not work.
[20:36] <Random832> you should really look at higher level tools for making bootable usb drives from any iso
[20:36] <FishPencil> I want to learn how USB booting works. How is it that I can burn a CD/DVD with an iso and it will boot every time without modification, but I generally need to use software if I want to boot from USB if I'm not doing EFI
[20:37] <Random832> USB booting works more or less the same way as hard drive booting
[20:37] <FishPencil> If the CD and USB drive had the same data, why is it that one will boot and one wont? What is the CD drive providing extra
[20:37] <Random832> the problem is that CD/DVD booting is different.
[20:39] <skatetensor> FishPencil: basically booting from usb is like booting from a ssd drive
[20:39] <FishPencil> What exactly is different? What is the BIOS looking for that it doesn't find it I try to load a block exact DD->usb
[20:40] <ikonia> how does this sit in an ubuntu channel ?
[20:43] <skatetensor> how is it everytime an interesting conv comes us someone will say smt like this
[20:44] <SlidingHorn> skatetensor: there is always #ubuntu-offtopic for "interesting conv"
[21:00] <Guest94984> qwll i juar got a sony vaio laptop for my birthday and have put ubuntu studio on it and it rocks.  Thanks dudes;.
[21:08] <astronaut__> When I run sudo pwmconfig I get a message "Operation not permitted". Does anyone have a clue how to fix this?
[21:14] <mattfly> anyone there was able to install nvidia dirvers?
[21:16] <SporkWitch> so i've managed to get my package uploaded to my ppa, tried to build, fails due to missing build deps.  No problem, added the ones I forgot to list, but now when it tries to check the Gtk version it fails with "namespace 'Gtk' not available"; i'm at a loss as to what specifically i need to include to get the build environment to specify gtk 3.0 so that step passes
[21:16] <SlidingHorn> !details | mattfly
[21:17] <mattfly> because after installing it im not able to hibernate anymore
[21:17] <mattfly> ive reported this bug but no feedback: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/1770491
[21:17] <SporkWitch> so you're not really asking about being to install the drivers, but about hibernation :)
[21:17] <SlidingHorn> SporkWitch: might be better off asking in #ubuntu-packages?  (though responses there are pretty sparse)
[21:17] <mattfly> maybe someone else could test it any prove it is a bug
[21:18] <SporkWitch> SlidingHorn: nature of the beast; program i use needs an 18.04 maintainer so i've been trying to figure it out, since no one else wants to deal with "arcane debuild black magic" lol  I can repackage and install fine locally, but that doesn't help the rest of the non-technical community lol
[21:19] <SporkWitch> SlidingHorn: that channel doesn't exist, apparently, heh
[21:20] <SporkWitch> and it looks like ubuntu-dev is invite only
[21:20] <SlidingHorn> SporkWitch: sorry - #ubuntu-packaging (not packages...my bad)
[21:20] <SporkWitch> was just about to search alis lol
[21:21] <Shmam> Hi I can't boot into my ubuntu 16.04 partition anymore. It just goes to a grub command line instead. The windows partition is totally fine and everything works there so it's definitely a software, not hardware issue.
[21:22] <swift110> hey all
[21:22] <SlidingHorn> Shmam: that's not how one determines something is hardware or not
[21:23] <Shmam> right, theres a few other factors that I already determined but didn't include to keep it concise
[21:23] <Shmam> I should say that it's unlikely a hardware issue
[21:24] <Apachez> for those who missed https://news.slashdot.org/story/18/05/12/2140252/malware-found-in-the-ubuntu-snap-store
[21:25] <SlidingHorn> Apachez: that's not relevant to the conversation here - everything from the author was removed, also
[21:25] <Apachez> its relevant since people in here trust snap
[21:25] <SlidingHorn> Shmam: https://askubuntu.com/questions/695165/cant-boot-ubuntu-shows-grub-command-shell
[21:26] <SlidingHorn> Apachez: this is a support channel, not discussion.  Feel free to talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[21:26] <Shmam> I am slightly concerned tho because it was working fine until I used Ark to unzip an archive and then the hard drive went into read only mode
[21:26] <Shmam> so maybe something is wrong deeper into the os
[21:27] <Apachez> SlidingHorn: that was support for ubuntu users using snap
[21:27] <SlidingHorn> Apachez: no, it's not.  please drop it.
[21:29] <Apachez> SlidingHorn: your bad behaviour doesnt belong to a support channel,  Feel free to talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[21:29] <SlidingHorn> !ot > Apachez
[21:29] <oerheks> Apachez, it is just proof that snap security works, there is an audit. but feel free to join -discuss
[21:30] <SlidingHorn> Shmam: I recall working on this the other day...what was the archive you were unpacking?
[21:30] <Apachez> !ot > SlidingHorn
[21:31] <Apachez> oerheks: not really but we can take it in -discuss
[21:31] <Shmam> I believe it was arduino ide but I'm not 100% sure
[21:32] <SlidingHorn> Shmam: that could be important, you should find out what the archive was and where exactly you got it
[21:34] <Shmam> im pretty sure that's what it was. Linux 64bit install from here: https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/Software
[21:35] <Shmam> it was a tar.xz which I thought was a tad strange. Usually they are tar.gz
[21:39] <ikonia> Shmam: just different compression
[21:39] <Shmam> yeah and it should work fine with Ark
[21:41] <ikonia> do you have xz utils installed
[21:41] <Shmam> I didn't specifically install it but if it came with KDE Neon 5.12 then I would have
[21:42] <Shmam> But I cant get into my system rn so I cant check
[21:42] <ikonia> kde neon is a desktop
[21:42] <Shmam> built on 16.04
[21:42] <ikonia> not compression tools
[21:42] <Shmam> it also includes some utilities like ark
[21:42] <Shmam> so i didnt know if it also included xz utils
[21:43] <ikonia> so that's what you need to check
[21:43] <Shmam> I cant get into the system tho
[21:44] <ikonia> why can't you "get into the system" ?
[21:44] <Shmam> it just boots into a grub shell
[21:45] <Shmam> while extracting the package, the partition went into read only mode and then when I rebooted, I was taken to the grub shell
[21:45] <ikonia> so that suggests it can't read the disk where either the root file system is to boot it, or it can't read where the config is so drops into a shell
[21:45] <ikonia> the partition went into read only.....something went wrong with your file system and probably disk then, from what you've said
[21:46] <swift110> So I boot into Ubuntu Mate and it doesn't boot up normally. It comes up as a desktop with only a few options. Those being shut down, text size and desktop environment. Nothing else shows up on the screen
[21:46] <Rumen> Hi there
[21:47] <Shmam> ok so what can I check with the grub shell to maybe get this fixed?
[21:47] <Rumen> is there a way to refresh the top bar after copmauter was suspended, because most of the icons missing
[21:47] <ikonia> Shmam: you can manually input the grub commands to try to boot it, or boot from live media to check the disk
[21:47] <Rumen> missing  - Skype, VirtualBox indicator, DropBox, Mega, Weather, HP
[21:49] <Rumen> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           E5410  @ 2.33GHz (2,33GHz) • Memory: Physical: 15,3 GiB Total (10,1 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 0 bytes / 0 bytes (0 bytes Free) • Uptime: 13h 46m 25s
[21:49] <ikonia> Rumen: we don't need system stats please
[21:49] <Shmam> ikonia: so if I list the partitions in grub, all of them say "no known file system detected" besides hd0,gpt2 which is type fat - Label: `SYSTEM'
[21:50] <ikonia> Shmam: I suspect you'll find it easier to see what's happened from live media
[21:50] <Shmam> ok 1 sec, i"ll boot from a usb
[21:50] <Rumen> OK noted
[21:50] <oerheks> Rumen, logout/login perhaps? suspend can be fun sometimes ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[21:52] <Rumen> Many times I try to login and change the different login options Ubuintu / Community theme / Cnome Destop .... same
[21:53] <Rumen> Sometimes only HP, Classic menu indicator and Virtual Box indicator appears (not every time)
[21:54] <nafg>  Hi, after upgrading ubuntu to 18.04 it won't boot (into graphics anyway). How can I troubleshoot linux not starting?
[21:54] <Shmam> ok I am now running ubuntu from the usb stick. `lsblk -f` shows a vfat partition with label 'SYSTEM'. How can I check the size of this partition to ensure that its the right one?
[21:55] <Shmam> nvm im dumb
[21:55] <Shmam> so the ubuntu partition is nvme0np7 which has no information from lsblk -f. No file system or label specified
[22:01] <Shmam> ikonia: so with parted, it looks like the partition is the right one and has an unrecognized disk label error, unknown partition table, unknown model, and a sector size of 512B/512B
 After the restart and login I got HP, Classic Menu indicator and Virtual box indicator icons in the top bar, but still missing DropBox, Mega, Skype and Weather
[22:04] <Shmam> cant you just add them back onto the sidebar?
[22:04] <Shmam> or wherever. you want them
[22:05] <Rumen> how?
[22:05] <Shmam> Maybe this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/224004/how-to-add-programs-to-the-launcher
[22:06] <oerheks> did dropbox start at all?
[22:06] <Rumen> Yes it works
[22:07] <Rumen> Shnam I don't need them in the side bar, but in the status bar (top bar)
[22:08] <Shmam> oh they should go up there whenever they are running in the background. So you should just need to launch them and they should appear in the status bar
[22:09] <Shmam> if that doesn't work then try this: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583050
[22:09] <Rumen> https://ibb.co/jRyFFd
[22:10] <oerheks> " ... some of the tray icons (Skype, Dropbox and OwnCloud in my setup) become transparent"
[22:10] <oerheks> is this happening to you too ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/789306/some-tray-icons-disappear-after-shutdown-overlay
[22:11] <markiee> hi, im having trouble with booting ubuntumate on my hp stream, im booting from usb, i tried disabling secure boot, i put legacy on etc, i tried several boot usb installers but not working
[22:12] <markiee> i tried yumi too,then it recognized but it said boot image will not authenticate
[22:12] <markiee> any ideas
[22:12] <oerheks> Rumen, what ubuntu version exactly?
[22:13] <GrandPa-G> Any idea why a program in rc.local would run the first time and then not run after the next reboots? Any ouput is missing from syslog and nothing seems to happen
[22:13] <lagbox> would anyone be able to perhaps point me in the right direction on trying to figure out why f.lux and redshift both have random color flickering (as though they turn off and back on again, instantly) since the 18.04 upgrade? currently running cinnamon
[22:13] <Rumen> 18.04
[22:13] <Rumen> no the icons are not transparent, because when I clickl with the mouse nothing happens
[22:13] <Shmam> GrandPa-G: Try source rc.local to see if it works
[22:14] <oerheks> Rumen, that is also said there, transparant and unclickable
[22:14] <Shmam> GrandPa-G: Also make sure to use an absolute file path in there
[22:15] <Shmam> Rumen: Those indicators are not really for launching the app. They will show up when there is something happening. Why do you need them visible?
[22:15] <oerheks> same solution here, "If I do ALT+F2; type "r" , app icons (such as slack, skype, etc.) reappear back on the top bar. " 21 days ago , https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/75
[22:16] <oerheks> they should reappear after suspend, Shmam
[22:16] <GrandPa-G> Shmam:If I do it, it kills my ssh session
[22:16] <oerheks> but suspend can be tricky
[22:16] <Shmam> oh, I use KDE so I'm not too familiar with unity
[22:16] <oerheks> gnome-shell
[22:16] <Rumen> After the instructions from here https://askubuntu.com/questions/789306/some-tray-icons-disappear-after-shutdown-overlay  with Alt+F2    and Enter the DropBox and Mega appeaared, just Weather and Skype missing now
[22:17] <oerheks> Shmam, what session are you in? wayland or Xorg?
[22:17] <Shmam> GrandPa-G: what's in there? can you cat rc.local. I dont think it should kill the session
[22:17] <oerheks> err Rumen ^^
[22:17] <Shmam> oerheks: Right now I'm in stock 16.04
[22:18] <Shmam> trying to fix my broken kde neon partition
[22:18] <GrandPa-G> shmam: of course I can cat rc.local
[22:18] <oerheks> it could be a wayland thingy ..
[22:18] <Shmam> GrandPa-G: Right but what did you add to it?
[22:19] <GrandPa-G> Shmam:I am eliminating all and adding back one at a time.
[22:19] <Rumen> Hey thanks a lot that works now I miss only Skype ....   but that works Alt+F2 and enter  .... https://ibb.co/ip2d1J
[22:20] <oerheks> :-)
[22:20] <oerheks> Rumen, what session are you in? wayland or Xorg?
[22:20] <Rumen> Xorg
[22:21] <Rumen> I don't see wayland
[22:21] <Rumen> should I install it separate?
[22:21] <oerheks> no wayland session, then you have Nvidia drivers installed i guess
[22:21] <GrandPa-G> Shmam:simple issue for the ssh bye-bye. There is an exit at the end of the rc.local. I commented it out.
[22:21] <Rumen> Yep Nvidia
[22:22] <oerheks> oke, that is fine
[22:22] <Shmam> uhh dont comment that out
[22:22] <oerheks> You could confirm that fix works for you, and add nvidia + xorg session
[22:23] <Shmam> read the comment at the top
[22:24] <GrandPa-G> Shmam:I will put it back when I figure out my real issue.
[22:24] <Shmam> k
[22:26] <Rumen> I can't understand how ... sorry first time. Saw thw wiki but couldn't find anything for "Confirm issue solved" or something like that. How to do it?
[22:33] <oerheks> Rumen, the bugreports i find say it should be fixed .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/1712866 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/1719192
[22:33] <oerheks> or write to github https://github.com/ubuntu/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/issues/75
[22:34] <Rumen> OK noted thanks a lot!
[22:35] <oerheks> any data is appreciated to bug this bug :-)
[22:42] <Rumen> Done!
[22:44] <swift110> hmm
[22:54] <oerheks> Rumen, perfect. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/+bug/1712866/comments/26
[22:55] <oerheks> now wait and see
[22:59] <michel> #ubuntu
[23:02] <lamder> If I 'su myuser' and then 'exit' from that user, it doesn't ask me password for root. Can't a malicious program just run 'exit' and get root access?
[23:03] <tgm4883> lamder: no
[23:04] <lamder> why?
[23:04] <tgm4883> lamder: it would kill itself in the process
[23:04] <lamder> Oh
[23:04] <lamder> lol
[23:05] <lamder> Thanks
[23:05] <Random832> tgm4883, what if it forked, the parent exited, and the child process forged input to the terminal with TIOCSTI
[23:06] <Random832> (for all i know su takes care of that with sessions or process groups or whatever, but it's not as straightforward as you're suggesting)
[23:07] <sere_> how can i list packages installed by there disk space used or size
[23:07] <jpleau> sere_: I keep a script that runs this:  dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size}: ${Package}\n' | sort -h
[23:08] <tgm4883> Random832: that would be easy enough to test, but maybe a first stop should be 'man exit'
[23:09] <sere_> jpleau: i like that alot. ty :)
[23:11] <Random832> as it turns out
[23:12] <Random832> lamder, as it turns out, it is possible. don't run potentially malicious programs on the same terminals as root shells.
[23:12] <lamder> wow
[23:13] <lamder> I was thinking this is too easy
[23:13] <SlidingHorn> Random832: link to proof of concept or something?
[23:13] <Random832> (it's not as simple as "just run exit", but it is possible for any program that can write to a terminal to forge input to that terminal)
[23:14] <Random832> SlidingHorn, https://bpaste.net/show/ceb7f6efb230
[23:15] <lamder> It works? Jesus
[23:15] <Random832> (i just checked, turns out the sleeps aren't necessary)
[23:17] <lamder> Hm
[23:17] <Random832> More or less this same vulnerability is acknowledged at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=628843
[23:18] <lamder> 2011
[23:21] <MrHall> Hello, i want use noip2 without sudo, is a good idea add to my group
[23:21] <MrHall> ?
[23:21] <MrHall> i want say that: sudo groupadd noip2
[23:22] <MrHall> because i want create an script to start it with linux but ç
[23:22] <SlidingHorn> MrHall: Why do you want to run noip2 without sudo?
[23:23] <MrHall> SlidingHorn: i need to this
[23:23] <SlidingHorn> MrHall: that doesn't answer my question...
[23:24] <MrHall> because else i need start manualy the service for each reboot
[23:24] <MrHall> i want create a .sh and put into init.d
[23:24] <SlidingHorn> MrHall: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:24] <MrHall> im using raspbian
[23:25] <SlidingHorn> !raspbian
[23:25] <SlidingHorn> guess that's not a command...anyway...
[23:25] <MrHall> raspberry pi OS
[23:25] <SlidingHorn> MrHall: raspbian isn't supported here.
[23:25] <SlidingHorn> MrHall: try asking in #raspbian
[23:26] <MrHall> thanks
[23:36] <sere_> i just ran bleachbit in $user mode and it freed up 8G from /root? How is this possible whem there is no rw to /
[23:37] <lamder> Random832: so I should be safe from that if I login to myuser directly?
[23:37] <Random832> yeah
[23:37] <lamder> Thank you
[23:38] <Random832> though you probably shouldn't be running programs that you seriously suspect of being malicious
[23:38] <lamder> Yeah, I am running all official builds
[23:39] <lamder> I should probably restart all the services I already started by using new shell
[23:41] <lamder> I thought I would be safe if I su to myuser but apparently I'm not
[23:43] <ph88> hey guys i need some help installing ubuntu 18.04 .. when i boot from usb my screen looks like this https://imgur.com/a/Zi7Bo4j  it's like the screen is duplicate and the office icon is stretched to the bottom .. i can only use the mouse in the upper left section of the screen
[23:52] <jswagner> ph88: share your hardware details
[23:52] <ph88> amd 2400g
[23:52] <ph88> asrock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
[23:53] <ph88> 960 evo 250gb
[23:53] <jswagner> what video
[23:53] <ph88> amd 2400g
[23:53] <jswagner> apu or pcie?
[23:53] <ph88> apu
[23:53] <ph88> hdmi connected
[23:53] <jswagner> i know it's fairly recent
[23:53] <ph88> ya
[23:53] <jswagner> i'd immediately suspect it's not fully supported by the 18.04 kernel
[23:54] <ph88> i have 4.15.0-20 kernel
[23:56] <ph88> i don't see 4.16 in the repo
[23:57] <ph88> i shall try to download the kernel from the kernel website
[23:58] <SlidingHorn> ph88: you may want to make sure it's supported first before randomly installing kernels
[23:58] <ph88> it's ok .. i'm running "try ubuntu" from the usb stick
[23:59] <SlidingHorn> !mainline | ph88 ok - check this out too
[23:59] <ph88> thx