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lordievader | Good morning | 06:08 |
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IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @weltimeister, Can anyone help me with this problem? I am using Kubuntu since 7.10 and never experienced this problem. | 09:02 |
hateball | no idea if this weltimeister is still here, but explaining what the problem is usually helps | 10:26 |
BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 10:40 |
lordievader | hateball: From earlier. | 10:46 |
lordievader | > <weltimeister> Baloo goes crazy. I cannot use 18.04 with Baloo switched on. The whole system freezes after a couple of minutes. … But I need a search function as well. … Am I the only one with this problem? | 10:46 |
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BluesKaj | lordievader, users complained about akonadi's bugs and now that they are solved access to GUI settings is no longer available. How does that make sense? | 11:08 |
lordievader | BluesKaj: Err, what? | 11:08 |
BluesKaj | that baloo problem | 11:09 |
lordievader | I'm just passing a message. | 11:09 |
lordievader | I try to stay away from the Akonadi/Baloo mess. | 11:09 |
BluesKaj | yeah i saw it yesterday but the user left before I could get an explanation typed | 11:10 |
BluesKaj | it's always been a messy business it seems' | 11:10 |
EvilRoey | hi | 11:10 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: haaaaai | 11:10 |
EvilRoey | and lordievader too :) | 11:10 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: btw it /was/ a BTRFS issue | 11:10 |
BluesKaj | hi EvilRoey | 11:11 |
BluesKaj | EvilRoey, yeah, mucking about with exotic FSs is dangerous | 11:11 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: even though 'df' listed enough free space, BTRFS's file layout led to having a lot of free space in allocated chunks. So there wasn't enough unallocated free space. Or something like that. | 11:11 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: I'm just going to use the (much, much faster) ext4 from now on, considering how the only reason I had installed to BTRFS was (besides the snapshot ability, which proved unuseful for me as tools supporting it are not mature) that adding new devices into the free-space pool is relatively trivial | 11:13 |
BluesKaj | I've heard all kinds of good things about ZFS, but after reading about it i didn't see any benefit for my setup | 11:13 |
EvilRoey | aye | 11:13 |
EvilRoey | well I mean if I want to add more free space, traditionally I would have to move to a bigger device | 11:13 |
EvilRoey | and I'd have to copy all the data from the old device to the new device | 11:14 |
BluesKaj | dd can do that | 11:14 |
EvilRoey | with BTRFS, you just add a new device into the array, then disable the first device, and let BTRFS figure out what to copy | 11:14 |
BluesKaj | yeah sure ;-) | 11:14 |
EvilRoey | BluesKaj: heh | 11:22 |
vespertatia | Compositor crashed again. All title bars disappeared. I can't switch virtual desktops. Is it gonna be like this forever? Or mayber there's a fix? | 11:37 |
lordievader | Anything in the logs as to why it crashes? | 11:39 |
lordievader | If there is enough information it might be worth it to report a bug. | 11:39 |
vespertatia | I really don't know what log should i bring up, my logs are filled with ufw | 12:03 |
lordievader | Syslog most likely. Though if it is a driver problem it may also go to dmesg. | 12:03 |
vespertatia | QDBusArgument: read from a write-only object | 12:07 |
vespertatia | oh it was activated successfully, scrolling... | 12:07 |
vespertatia | nope nothing unusual :( | 12:09 |
vespertatia | This wasn't happening back in 17.10, tbh i'm planning to revert back to 17.10 | 12:10 |
vespertatia | Next time this happens i'm gonna keep all logs +-10minutes the moment it happen again | 12:10 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @BluesKaj, I did not leave. I am connected via Telegram messenger. | 12:18 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> Thank you BluesKaj! I really would like to have a solution to this problem. | 12:19 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> And thanks to lordievader, too. | 12:20 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> I already did explain my problem a couple of days ago. But did not get a solution or proper answer. | 12:21 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> Baloo uses all RAM every time I start 18.04. So the desktop freezes after a few minutes. | 12:23 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> I can disable baloo, but I need a search function. | 12:23 |
BluesKaj | weltimeister, which kubuntu version are you running? | 12:36 |
BluesKaj | weltimeister try the #kde-baloo chat as well. They may have better info than we can give | 12:41 |
BluesKaj | weltimeister also this page may help https://community.kde.org/Baloo | 12:43 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @BluesKaj, 18.04 … I am using Kubuntu since 7.10 and never experienced this problem. | 12:45 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @BluesKaj, I only use Telegram messenger. Are the connected too? | 12:45 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @BluesKaj, I'll check out that help site as well. | 12:46 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> Nobody in here has a similar problem? | 12:46 |
* lordievader doesn't use Kubuntu nor Baloo. | 12:52 | |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> I see. But this is an official Kubuntu support, right? | 12:55 |
lordievader | Yes. | 12:55 |
lordievader | But you don't have to run Kubuntu in order to hang around here 😉 | 12:56 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> Hehe. Right. ^^ | 13:00 |
jbracker | Hi, I have problem with my microphone in kubuntu. Most of the time (not every time) when I try to use it, it just records garbage that sounds as if the sampling rate of the recording is to fast. | 13:02 |
jbracker | I tried 2.5.1 to 2.5.5 of this guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Static_noise_in_microphone_recording ; but that did not change anything | 13:02 |
jbracker | Can someone help me? | 13:03 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <Sick_Rimmit> The curreny Kubuntu version incorporates extra tools for Audio | 13:13 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <Sick_Rimmit> Do you know about those | 13:13 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <Sick_Rimmit> They're available from the Speaker Icon, using the configuration icon ( top right ) | 13:14 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <Sick_Rimmit> It enables you to assign applications to audio outputs / inputs | 13:14 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <Sick_Rimmit> Perhaps the issues are there | 13:14 |
MrObvious | Hey | 13:16 |
MrObvious | What's the proper command to install kubuntu on ubuntu | 13:16 |
MrObvious | If there is one package that would install the whole kubuntu instead of just kde | 13:17 |
CoJaBo | I think it's something like kubuntu-desktop | 13:18 |
MrObvious | Let me check | 13:18 |
MrObvious | CoJaBo, correct! much appreciated | 13:19 |
BluesKaj | !kubuntu | 13:22 |
ubottu | Kubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces. See https://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde | 13:22 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @BluesKaj, Unfortunately there was nothing on that side that could help. Do you have more suggestions? … Is here anyone who has experienced the same problem? … Does anyone know how to go on with this? | 13:35 |
BluesKaj | weltimeister, how old is your pc and how much RAM and other specs? | 13:36 |
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IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @BluesKaj, It is a pretty new tuxedo book, similar to slimbook. I have a i7 processor and 8 GB RAM. | 14:46 |
hateball | weltimeister, is this a brand new install or an upgrade? I've had baloo go crazy so I needed to disable and re-enable it to behave | 14:46 |
hateball | like if the indexing db goes corrupt or something | 14:46 |
hateball | but maybe you already tried a "balooctl disable" reboot and "balooctl enable" ? | 14:47 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> New install. | 14:47 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> I did not. | 14:47 |
hateball | is your ~/ also clean? or if it is full of say... source code | 14:47 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> I don't know what that means. | 14:48 |
hateball | weltimeister then you don't have any source code there :D | 14:48 |
hateball | basically if you have a lot of source code files baloo takes forever to index them, but by default most of that should be excluded from indexing iirc | 14:49 |
hateball | anyhow you can try the disable/enable, doesnt hurt | 14:49 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> I tryed to let baloo index one whole night. It did not help. | 15:12 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @hateball, I did switch Baloo of in the settings. Is that the same thing? | 15:15 |
hateball | weltimeister I am not sure if that just stops it or disables it | 15:16 |
hateball | thats why I like to use the cli tool | 15:16 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> Okay. I will try. | 15:16 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> I guess I should enable Baloo for that in the settings first, right? | 15:23 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> Since I need to work now, I will try that later. I will let you know. | 15:24 |
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graham__ | test | 16:18 |
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R13ose | Hi | 18:07 |
R13ose | I am getting this dialog to show up and unsure why. Configuration file "/home/test/.config/ktraderclientrc" not writeable. What do I do? | 18:08 |
genii | R13ose: sudo chown test:test /home/test/.config/ktraderclientrc && chmod 600 /home/test/.config/ktraderclientrc | 18:21 |
R13ose | genii: I can't open most applications so this is not the only one. There is another one kreadconfig5rc | 18:23 |
genii | R13ose: Are you trying to run applications in /home/test from a user with a different name than "test" ? | 18:24 |
R13ose | Nope. I am logged in as test and just click on apps | 18:25 |
R13ose | genii: ^ | 18:25 |
genii | You may also have done something to alter permissions in there, like trying to run applications while root/admin | 18:25 |
R13ose | genii: how to fix? | 18:28 |
genii | R13ose: To revert permissions back to the user recursively for all the files in their home directory: sudo chown -R test:test /home/test | 18:29 |
* genii wanders back to work | 18:30 | |
* EvilRoey hears that genii does wonders for work | 18:30 | |
EvilRoey | just interact with genii daily for maximum effect | 18:30 |
EvilRoey | hi R13ose | 18:30 |
om26er | on 18.04 plasma panel hangs while I resume from suspend until wifi connects | 20:05 |
om26er | I think the issue is resolved in latest KDE (tested Neon), so when will that make its way to Kubuntu ? | 20:06 |
valorie | R13ose: sudo chown test:test /home/* will take awhile, but that will fix all your $HOME permissions | 20:09 |
valorie | and please never run any GUI applications as root/sudo/admin unless the app itself gives you a window asking for your sudo password | 20:10 |
acheronuk | om26er: 5.12.5 is in our updates ppa, and will hopefully go into the main archive for testing for updates there shortly | 20:13 |
om26er | acheronuk: ok, sounds good. | 20:14 |
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R13ose | Right. I will try that | 21:02 |
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mattfly | is someone there with nvidia drivers installed able to hibernate? I am not and have reported a bug but Havent found no one else with this issue or up to test it | 21:04 |
R13ose | valorie: says chown: changing ownership of '/home/test': read-only file system. | 21:09 |
valorie | oh dear | 21:10 |
valorie | that sounds more serious and beyond anything I know how to advise about | 21:10 |
valorie | that said, I've had the same thing happen | 21:10 |
valorie | but my son fixed it for me and I don't recall the detailes | 21:11 |
valorie | I believe it's not being mounted correctly | 21:11 |
krytarik | Or it's remounted read-only because of file system errors. | 21:13 |
valorie | R13ose: you might ask in #ubuntu which is a much larger channel if nobody speaks up here | 21:13 |
R13ose | valorie: I did ask there twice and for bad answers | 21:15 |
valorie | :( | 21:15 |
R13ose | valorie: should I try what genii said? | 21:16 |
valorie | https://askubuntu.com/questions/98526/changing-ownership-of-read-only-file-system <--- did you try this? | 21:17 |
valorie | dealing with one file at a time won't work if your entire HOME is r/o | 21:17 |
genii | "read-only file system" makes me think you booted the system up into recovery | 21:18 |
R13ose | genii: how do I know if I did? | 21:18 |
valorie | good thought, genii | 21:18 |
R13ose | valorie: I didn't try that | 21:18 |
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R13ose | genii: I did runlevel and says N 5 | 21:21 |
genii | Another option then is it was not marked clean | 21:23 |
genii | ( and so cannot be mounted ) | 21:23 |
R13ose | genii: how do we mark this clean? | 21:23 |
genii | R13ose: Please use a pastebin website to show us the output of the: mount ...command | 21:24 |
genii | The answer to your question depends on what's mounted where | 21:25 |
genii | work, afk again 5-7 minutes | 21:25 |
R13ose | genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6NM5cCN7Wv/ | 21:27 |
genii | meh LVM | 21:37 |
genii | R13ose: You'll need specialized instructions from someone more familiar with LVM than I am for that | 21:41 |
genii | ..But it does look like this is the main cause of your larger problem, errors were encoutered and volume was mounted read-only | 21:42 |
R13ose | genii: okay, I will wait in here for someone to come. | 21:42 |
genii | R13ose: Since process is not dependent on what desktop environment you use, asking in #ubuntu might yield a faster answer than in here | 21:49 |
R13ose | genii: can you tell me what to ask? | 21:51 |
genii | R13ose:" I use LVM, root is mounting read-only and I need instructions to help me with fsck and mounting it read-write again" might work | 21:54 |
R13ose | genii: thanks | 21:54 |
genii | It's probably something like 3-4 commands after booting from a livecd/DVD but some will be commands LVM specific to finding out the names of the volumes on your drive, etc | 21:55 |
genii | ( to run fsck on) | 21:56 |
R13ose | genii: I can't run live as I don't have cd/dvd drives or a usb key | 21:57 |
oerheks | not sure "touch /forcefsck" works for LVM too, but all guides say use a live iso | 22:05 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> @hateball, Hey hateball, unfortunately using balooctl did not help. | 22:42 |
IrcsomeBot3 | <weltimeister> Do you or anyone else have another idea how to stop baloo using all RAM until the system freezes? (While I still want to use a proper desktop search.) | 22:43 |
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