[06:08] <lordievader> Good morning
 @weltimeister, Can anyone help me with this problem? I am using Kubuntu since 7.10 and never experienced this problem.
[10:26] <hateball> no idea if this weltimeister is still here, but explaining what the problem is usually helps
[10:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:46] <lordievader> hateball: From earlier.
[10:46] <lordievader> > <weltimeister> Baloo goes crazy. I cannot use 18.04 with Baloo switched on. The whole system freezes after a couple of minutes. … But I need a search function as well. … Am I the only one with this problem?
[11:08] <BluesKaj> lordievader, users complained about akonadi's bugs and now that they are solved access to GUI settings is no longer available. How does that make sense?
[11:08] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Err, what?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> that baloo problem
[11:09] <lordievader> I'm just passing a message.
[11:09] <lordievader> I try to stay away from the Akonadi/Baloo mess.
[11:10] <BluesKaj> yeah i saw it yesterday but the user left before I could get an explanation typed
[11:10] <BluesKaj> it's  always been a messy business it seems'
[11:10] <EvilRoey> hi
[11:10] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: haaaaai
[11:10] <EvilRoey> and lordievader too :)
[11:10] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: btw it /was/ a BTRFS issue
[11:11] <BluesKaj> hi EvilRoey
[11:11] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, yeah, mucking about with exotic FSs is dangerous
[11:11] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: even though 'df' listed enough free space, BTRFS's file layout led to having a lot of free space in allocated chunks.  So there wasn't enough unallocated free space.  Or something like that.
[11:13] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: I'm just going to use the (much, much faster) ext4 from now on, considering how the only reason I had installed to BTRFS was (besides the snapshot ability, which proved unuseful for me as tools supporting it are not mature) that adding new devices into the free-space pool is relatively trivial
[11:13] <BluesKaj> I've heard all kinds of good things about ZFS, but after reading about it i didn't see any benefit for my setup
[11:13] <EvilRoey> aye
[11:13] <EvilRoey> well I mean if I want to add more free space, traditionally I would have to move to a bigger device
[11:14] <EvilRoey> and I'd have to copy all the data from the old device to the new device
[11:14] <BluesKaj> dd can do that
[11:14] <EvilRoey> with BTRFS, you just add a new device into the array, then disable the first device, and let BTRFS figure out what to copy
[11:14] <BluesKaj> yeah sure ;-)
[11:22] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: heh
[11:37] <vespertatia> Compositor crashed again. All title bars disappeared. I can't switch virtual desktops. Is it gonna be like this forever? Or mayber there's a fix?
[11:39] <lordievader> Anything in the logs as to why it crashes?
[11:39] <lordievader> If there is enough information it might be worth it to report a bug.
[12:03] <vespertatia> I really don't know what log should i bring up, my logs are filled with ufw
[12:03] <lordievader> Syslog most likely. Though if it is a driver problem it may also go to dmesg.
[12:07] <vespertatia> QDBusArgument: read from a write-only object
[12:07] <vespertatia> oh it was activated successfully, scrolling...
[12:09] <vespertatia> nope nothing unusual :(
[12:10] <vespertatia> This wasn't happening back in 17.10, tbh i'm planning to revert back to 17.10
[12:10] <vespertatia> Next time this happens i'm gonna keep all logs +-10minutes the moment it happen again
 @BluesKaj, I did not leave. I am connected via Telegram messenger.
 Thank you BluesKaj! I really would like to have a solution to this problem.
 And thanks to lordievader, too.
 I already did explain my problem a couple of days ago. But did not get a solution or proper answer.
 Baloo uses all RAM every time I start 18.04. So the desktop freezes after a few minutes.
 I can disable baloo, but I need a search function.
[12:36] <BluesKaj> weltimeister, which kubuntu version are you running?
[12:41] <BluesKaj>  weltimeister try the #kde-baloo chat as well. They may have better info than we can give
[12:43] <BluesKaj>  weltimeister  also this page may help https://community.kde.org/Baloo
 @BluesKaj, 18.04 … I am using Kubuntu since 7.10 and never experienced this problem.
 @BluesKaj, I only use Telegram messenger. Are the connected too?
 @BluesKaj, I'll check out that help site as well.
 Nobody in here has a similar problem?
[12:52]  * lordievader doesn't use Kubuntu nor Baloo.
 I see. But this is an official Kubuntu support, right?
[12:55] <lordievader> Yes.
[12:56] <lordievader> But you don't have to run Kubuntu in order to hang around here 😉
 Hehe. Right. ^^
[13:02] <jbracker> Hi, I have problem with my microphone in kubuntu. Most of the time (not every time) when I try to use it, it just records garbage that sounds as if the sampling rate of the recording is to fast.
[13:02] <jbracker> I tried 2.5.1 to 2.5.5 of this guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting#Static_noise_in_microphone_recording ; but that did not change anything
[13:03] <jbracker> Can someone help me?
 The curreny Kubuntu version incorporates extra tools for Audio
 Do you know about those
 They're available from the Speaker Icon, using the configuration icon ( top right )
 It enables you to assign applications to audio outputs / inputs
 Perhaps the issues are there
[13:16] <MrObvious> Hey
[13:16] <MrObvious> What's the proper command to install kubuntu on ubuntu
[13:17] <MrObvious> If there is one package that would install the whole kubuntu instead of just kde
[13:18] <CoJaBo> I think it's something like kubuntu-desktop
[13:18] <MrObvious> Let me check
[13:19] <MrObvious> CoJaBo, correct! much appreciated
[13:22] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
 @BluesKaj, Unfortunately there was nothing on that side that could help. Do you have more suggestions? … Is here anyone who has experienced the same problem? … Does anyone know how to go on with this?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> weltimeister, how old is your pc and how much RAM and other specs?
 @BluesKaj, It is a pretty new tuxedo book, similar to slimbook. I have a i7 processor and 8 GB RAM.
[14:46] <hateball> weltimeister, is this a brand new install or an upgrade? I've had baloo go crazy so I needed to disable and re-enable it to behave
[14:46] <hateball> like if the indexing db goes corrupt or something
[14:47] <hateball> but maybe you already tried a "balooctl disable" reboot and "balooctl enable" ?
 New install.
 I did not.
[14:47] <hateball> is your ~/ also clean? or if it is full of say... source code
 I don't know what that means.
[14:48] <hateball> weltimeister then you don't have any source code there :D
[14:49] <hateball> basically if you have a lot of source code files baloo takes forever to index them, but by default most of that should be excluded from indexing iirc
[14:49] <hateball> anyhow you can try the disable/enable, doesnt hurt
 I tryed to let baloo index one whole night. It did not help.
 @hateball, I did switch Baloo of in the settings. Is that the same thing?
[15:16] <hateball> weltimeister I am not sure if that just stops it or disables it
[15:16] <hateball> thats why I like to use the cli tool
 Okay. I will try.
 I guess I should enable Baloo for that in the settings first, right?
 Since I need to work now, I will try that later. I will let you know.
[16:18] <graham__> test
[18:07] <R13ose> Hi
[18:08] <R13ose> I am getting this dialog to show up and unsure why. Configuration file "/home/test/.config/ktraderclientrc" not writeable.  What do I do?
[18:21] <genii> R13ose: sudo chown test:test /home/test/.config/ktraderclientrc && chmod 600 /home/test/.config/ktraderclientrc
[18:23] <R13ose> genii: I can't open most applications so this is not the only one.  There is another one kreadconfig5rc
[18:24] <genii> R13ose: Are you trying to run applications in /home/test  from a user with a different name than "test" ?
[18:25] <R13ose> Nope.  I am logged in as test and just click on apps
[18:25] <R13ose> genii: ^
[18:25] <genii> You may also have done something to alter permissions in there, like trying to run applications while root/admin
[18:28] <R13ose> genii: how to fix?
[18:29] <genii> R13ose: To revert permissions back to the user recursively for all the files in their home directory: sudo chown -R test:test /home/test
[18:30]  * genii wanders back to work
[18:30]  * EvilRoey hears that genii does wonders for work
[18:30] <EvilRoey> just interact with genii daily for maximum effect
[18:30] <EvilRoey> hi R13ose
[20:05] <om26er> on 18.04 plasma panel hangs while I resume from suspend until wifi connects
[20:06] <om26er> I think the issue is resolved in latest KDE (tested Neon), so when will that make its way to Kubuntu ?
[20:09] <valorie> R13ose: sudo chown test:test /home/* will take awhile, but that will fix all your $HOME permissions
[20:10] <valorie> and please never run any GUI applications as root/sudo/admin unless the app itself gives you a window asking for your sudo password
[20:13] <acheronuk> om26er: 5.12.5 is in our updates ppa, and will hopefully go into the main archive for testing for updates there shortly
[20:14] <om26er> acheronuk: ok, sounds good.
[21:02] <R13ose> Right.  I will try that
[21:04] <mattfly>  is someone there with nvidia drivers installed able to hibernate? I am not and have reported a bug but Havent found no one else with this issue or up to test it
[21:09] <R13ose> valorie: says chown: changing ownership of '/home/test': read-only file system.
[21:10] <valorie> oh dear
[21:10] <valorie> that sounds more serious and beyond anything I know how to advise about
[21:10] <valorie> that said, I've had the same thing happen
[21:11] <valorie> but my son fixed it for me and I don't recall the detailes
[21:11] <valorie> I believe it's not being mounted correctly
[21:13] <krytarik> Or it's remounted read-only because of file system errors.
[21:13] <valorie> R13ose: you might ask in #ubuntu which is a much larger channel if nobody speaks up here
[21:15] <R13ose> valorie: I did ask there twice and for bad answers
[21:15] <valorie> :(
[21:16] <R13ose> valorie: should I try what genii said?
[21:17] <valorie> https://askubuntu.com/questions/98526/changing-ownership-of-read-only-file-system <--- did you try this?
[21:17] <valorie> dealing with one file at a time won't work if your entire HOME is r/o
[21:18] <genii> "read-only file system" makes me think you booted the system up into recovery
[21:18] <R13ose> genii: how do I know if I did?
[21:18] <valorie> good thought, genii
[21:18] <R13ose> valorie: I didn't try that
[21:18]  * valorie goes afk for awhile
[21:21] <R13ose> genii: I did runlevel and says N 5
[21:23] <genii> Another option then is it was not marked clean
[21:23] <genii> ( and so cannot be mounted )
[21:23] <R13ose> genii: how do we mark this clean?
[21:24] <genii> R13ose: Please use a pastebin website to show us the output of the: mount ...command
[21:25] <genii> The answer to your question depends on what's mounted where
[21:25] <genii> work, afk again 5-7 minutes
[21:27] <R13ose> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6NM5cCN7Wv/
[21:37] <genii> meh LVM
[21:41] <genii> R13ose: You'll need specialized instructions from someone more familiar with LVM than I am for that
[21:42] <genii> ..But it does look like this is the main cause of your larger problem, errors were encoutered and volume was mounted read-only
[21:42] <R13ose> genii: okay, I will wait in here for someone to come.
[21:49] <genii> R13ose: Since process is not dependent on what desktop environment you use, asking in #ubuntu might yield a faster answer than in here
[21:51] <R13ose> genii: can you tell me what to ask?
[21:54] <genii> R13ose:" I use LVM, root is mounting read-only and I need instructions to help me with fsck and mounting it read-write again"   might work
[21:54] <R13ose> genii: thanks
[21:55] <genii> It's probably something like 3-4 commands after booting from a livecd/DVD but some will be commands LVM specific to finding out the names of the volumes on your drive, etc
[21:56] <genii> ( to run fsck on)
[21:57] <R13ose> genii: I can't run live as I don't have cd/dvd drives or a usb key
[22:05] <oerheks> not sure "touch /forcefsck" works for LVM too, but all guides say use a live iso
 @hateball, Hey hateball, unfortunately using balooctl did not help.
 Do you or anyone else have another idea how to stop baloo using all RAM until the system freezes? (While I still want to use a proper desktop search.)