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[02:39] <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> Excuse me, how do I set the ubuntu touch camera resolution. Just like the sailfish:https://github.com/CancroSailors/droid-config-cancro/blob/master/sparse/etc/dconf/db/vendor.d/jolla-camera-hw.txt
[02:41] <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> Can ubuntu touch set camera resolution?
[02:55] <ubptgbot> <amolith> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/MjcJk2g8.png
[02:55] <ubptgbot> <amolith> This is the best you'll get AFAIK
[03:02] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @kuailexs, This is the best we have right now AFAIK. You can create a feature request for the camera app asking for it if this isnt' good enough though
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[06:29] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @amolith, And dont forget to tell that the list is scrollable, there might be more resolutions hidden 😆
[07:02] <ubptgbot> <FicsrealZ> Open Store is dead?
[07:09] <ubptgbot> <Waldbursche> @FicsrealZ, OpenStore works here. From time to time Openstore needs close and new open to work.
[07:11] <ubptgbot> <FicsrealZ> I did not update it. Sorry. It works now.
[07:47] <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> @amolith, for xiaomi4 can not svae picture when i choose 16:9
[07:47] <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> For ubuntu touch, where to modify this value?
[07:55] <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> on camera app ,have 2 resolutions, 4:3 (13mp) and 16:9 (13mp)
[07:55] <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> on camera app ,have two resolutions, 4:3 (13mp) and 16:9 (13mp)
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[08:22] <ubptgbot> GiulioAvvi was added by: GiulioAvvi
[08:26] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @GiulioAvvi, Hi Giulio, welcome! You can take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
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[09:24] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @kuailexs, Those are formats, not resolutions
[09:33] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Always choose the native format of the sensor. You can edit later but you can never recover data that has been blanked off for a custom rectangle
[10:04] <ubptgbot> Meindert Osinga was added by: Meindert Osinga
[10:04] <ubptgbot> <kuailexs> @Stereofont, Thanks for correcting
[10:05] <ubptgbot> <Bolly> Welcome Meindert !!! Check this put for more about UBports https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[10:06] <ubptgbot> <Meindert Osinga> 👍
[10:10] <ubptgbot> <matv1> Meindert going by your name, you might also be interested in https://t.me/UBports_NL
[10:23] <T-5> hi everyone!
[10:25] <T-5> I'm running ubuntu touch on my oneplus one. I'd like to compile and install my own kernel. Can someone point me to the kernel sources and some information where the kernel has to be put in order to get it working? i also have a second oneplus one running latest lineage os where i can extract the binary blobs from
[10:34] <ubptgbot> <matv1> Although not strictly speaking Halium, you'd probably get better response in the Halium group on that question. https://t.me/halium
[10:35] <oerheks> T-5, touch runs on top of android, so no go to compile your kernel.. jsuta  kernel config.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/NewPorting#Kernel-1
[10:36] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @oerheks, Of course you can compile your own kernel
[10:36] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> But it must be built with the android tools
[10:36] <T-5> i know that i have to include the android blobs
[10:37] <T-5> i also know how to build an android kernel
[10:38] <T-5> my questions are more like where to get the kernel config used for the currentl running ubuntu touch so it is as similar as possible and second questions is how i would install it
[10:38] <T-5> and not only the kernel config but also the source tree currently in use
[10:45] <T-5> ok, after looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/NewPorting#Kernel-1 I remeber having been there already. I have the impression that the version this talks about is outdated. is this correct?
[11:31] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> T-5, yes, that is outdated. https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html
[11:51] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> wait a sec
[11:51] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> I have no internet right now but I am going there
[12:03] <T-5> does the 16.04 version run on vanilla halium?
[12:10] <ubptgbot> <Eranuzan> @kuailexs, The camera app pull the resolution formats from the underling QCamera API  which my guess it talking to the libHybris (but i don't really know :/)
[12:10] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @Flohack, Thats a good ISP: Stores the whole internet in a cache during downtimes
[12:11] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @T-5, If you install it in the right way probably yes. But we are still unifying Halium boot with UT. Better ask in the Halium group
[12:12] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @wayneoutthere, 😆 I am in a VPN, so no Internet, but Telegram works
[12:13] <T-5> @Flohack thanks, i'll dive deep... :)
[12:15] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @T-5, I am not sure but here are our OPO repos: https://github.com/ubports/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=oneplus&type=&language=
[12:16] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> The device is oneplus-bacon-1 this I know. The kernel has 2 repos, the common and the specific one
[12:17] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> maybe msm8996-1 or msm8994-1
[12:17] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @UniversalSuperBox wasnt ther another Org that held all the ported device stuff?
[12:17] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> On GH
[12:20] <T-5> neither msm8996-1 or msm8994-1 seems right, the bacon uses a snapdragon 801, don't know the msmXXXX code for that
[12:23] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> Ok then try oneplus_one_1 or whats the name, at the beginning
[12:28] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @T-5, I found smth: https://github.com/ubports/build-scripts/blob/master/devices.xml
[12:29] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> This one is used on the build server
[13:13] <T-5> very cool, thanks @Flohack
[13:23] <T-5> so this is a part of the tree needed to build the complete kernel?
[13:43] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Flohack, halium?
[13:46] <T-5> ah, that makes sense.
[13:47] <T-5> i'm in the process of syncing the repo for halium, the next step will be device specific config in the halium howto... so i'm still waiting for this step to happen
[13:47] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> T-5, that is a repo manifest, You'd use that along with ubports/android@ubp-5.1 to build our trees
[13:47] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i'm curious. why do you want to build a custom kernel exactly?
[13:49] <T-5> i want to try a hack that enables me to charge the device while using usb otg
[13:50] <T-5> my oneplus one with the broken display is acting as a small web/mail/mysql/pyramid/nas-server now :)
[13:51] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> that requires a kernel change?
[13:51] <T-5> seems so. http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/kernel-power-otg-host-mod-t3201100
[13:51] <heth> hi! I'm glad touch is alive, horray! is there any official release after cannonical passed the project to UBports?
[13:53] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Well, yeah... a few of them
[13:54] <heth> is convergence working in some form?
[13:54] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Yes, you can connect supported devices to an external display. The Nexus 5 has native slimport out but there's a bug that prevents Libertine from working, so no desktop apps on it.
[13:55] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> Also no touchpad bug
[13:58] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @dohbee, No, there was another "private" org for that 😆
[13:59] <heth> UniversalSuperBox, is that bug complicated?
[13:59] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Well, it's been on the tracker since it was our tracker
[14:01] <heth> can I have a link for it?
[14:02] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/223
[14:11] <heth> UniversalSuperBox, how is that related to convergence?
[14:12] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> That is not what I copied.
[14:12] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/22
[14:15] <heth> I see.
[14:15] <heth> is it (will it be) hard to port 15.04/16.04 to 18.04?
[14:15] <heth> do you have a lot of things to rewrite for the base os to be upgraded
[14:16] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> That progress is tracked here: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestones
[14:16] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Specifically the Backlog and OTA-4 milestones.
[14:17] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> I'm personally more worried about apps being lost due to the upgrade, but we don't have a better option.
[14:21] <ubptgbot> <exar_kun> @UniversalSuperBox, Apps will then be forced to catch up, which is what we need anyway right? As long as the necessity apps are working. And those apps are: … 0. … 1. … 2. … 3. … ...
[14:42] <heth> UniversalSuperBox, what kind of apps are those, the base apps, or one written specifically for uTouch?
[14:46] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Any app which is compiled (AKA, not QML and JavaScript only) will be ABI incompatible
[14:46] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @exar_kun, Core apps will be supported by us, however, any app developed by somebody else might fail
[14:54] <heth> I guess that should be expected. also when the android app container starts working properly people will have no problems with that.
[14:59] <heth> do apps have a mobile binary and a convergence binary, or it's only UI swapping?
[15:00] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It's the same app, more space
[15:00] <heth> sounds good. do people usually code UI for both when they write apps for it?
[15:01] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @heth, it's just apps reacting to the window size being different
[15:01] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @heth, yes, you just handle layout changes in the APP Ui
[15:02] <heth> that's cool
[15:02] <heth> I can't stop imagining stop dragging my laptop/desktop everywhere and just bring my phone and use a monitor/kbd
[15:03] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @heth, well, a 24" monitor is much harder to fit into a backpack
[15:04] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @heth, No it will be the same problem as our apps are not android apps.
[15:05] <heth> dohbee, many places have monitors, no places have my data/os/setup
[15:05] <heth> flohack, I don't have android apps on my laptop and I use it just fine.
[15:06] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @heth, So what was your comment about
[15:07] <heth> UniversalSuperBox, Thanks for the info! I with you this project gets proper traction and people finally start using some proper OS on their devices
[15:07] <heth> s/with/wish/
[15:09] <heth> the top phones now are like 2/3 of the performance of the average laptops, and that margin is only getting slimmer
[15:22] <Beton> so, 16.04 will use snap packages or it will stay on click packages?
[15:27] <ubptgbot> <jonny> @Beton, It stays on click packages
[15:29] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @Flohack, how do we communicate this to all maintainers?  Is there a communication system in OpenStore?
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[17:10] <ubptgbot> <amolith> Does anyone know if UT supports VPN config with IKEv2?
[17:13] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wayneoutthere, e-mail them?
[17:13] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @amolith, is that something that works with OpenVPN?
[17:14] <ubptgbot> <jonny> @dohbee, it would be great to automate that...
[17:15] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @heth, by what measurement is this?
[17:15] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @dohbee, I have no idea. I contacted Windscribe for assistance configuring UT's VPN and the reply I got was as follows: … Hi, … Does your device support IKEv2? If so, it would be much easier to configure through that protocol. … Thank you
[17:15] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> err, by what measurement are phones like 2/3 performance of laptops?
[17:15] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @amolith, what's windscribe? a vpn service?
[17:16] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @dohbee, Yes. Once of the best imo
[17:16] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @dohbee, [Edit] Yes. One of the best imo
[17:16] <ubptgbot> <wayneoutthere> @jonny, this...  i thought that there would be something setup where the 'account holder' of the maintainer of the app on OpenStore would have some way to receive urgent messages.
[17:16] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> routing all your traffic through some single endpoint is not what i would call "best" but ok
[17:17] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> "Config Generator - OpenVPN, IKEv2, SOCKS5"
[17:17] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Tell them to buzz off and give you the config, @amolith ;)
[17:17] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @wayneoutthere, well, there is a way to script it, but i guess it would need a little work to do
[17:18] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> although, maybe open-store doesn't have access to see the e-mail addresses of devs who logged in
[17:18] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @UniversalSuperBox, Where do you see that? In the "Set up VPN" menu, the dropdown menu for "Type" isn't dropping down lol
[17:18] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> @amolith, https://windscribe.com/upgrade
[17:18] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> It's an advertised feature
[17:19] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @UniversalSuperBox, Oh lol
[17:19] <ubptgbot> <amolith> I thought you meant you saw that on UT 😂
[17:20] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> oh i guess ikev2 is on ipsec
[17:20] <ubptgbot> Fermiau was added by: Fermiau
[17:20] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @amolith, so just use their tool to get you the openvpn config, and use that config
[17:22] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @dohbee, I've done that but you can't import a VPN config file. The only way I've found to use a VPN on UT is through the GUI menu system and that isn't normally provided by any VPN provider and I don't know what's what in the .ovpn file that's generated lol.
[17:27] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @amolith, Is it an .ovpn file? There's tools to split it out. Yeah, we need to get support for those added. But it's certainly possible to manually add a config
[17:37] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @amolith, Sounds like they want to have IPSEC - And I doubt this will work out of the box on UT
[17:38] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> it doesn't
[17:47] <heth> ubptgbot, browse any benchmark that reference mobile and x86 like https://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks
[17:48] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> i thought the 835 laptops were equal to the low-level pentium ones
[17:49] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> well ios devices can't run UT anyway
[17:52] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @rogieroudshoorn, seems Snapdragon 845 is roughly equivalent to older and lower end mobile x86 CPUs
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[17:54] <ubptgbot> <advocatux> @Fermiau, Hi Fer, welcome! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
[17:54] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> so yeah, top end phones are close to low end laptops
[20:08] <ubptgbot> <Nic Wow> Except Rasberry Pi's. They are like low end phones.
[20:08] <ubptgbot> <Nic Wow> Or lowish phones
[20:10] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> @dohbee, that's the problem with Snapdragon 845 laptops though - they are priced premium, but have performance of lower end x86 CPUs
[20:11] <T-5>  <UniversalSuperBox> T-5, that is a repo manifest, You'd use that along with ubports/android@ubp-5.1 to build our trees
[20:11] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/android
[20:12] <T-5> i tried to RTFM but i'm still confused :)
[20:13] <T-5> http://wiki.ubports.com/index.php/OnePlus_One_Build points to https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/
[20:13] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> I'm not sure that would have helped anyway...
[20:13] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> So, you need to initialize the repository using https://github.com/ubports/android
[20:14] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> And then place the devices manifest in your local manifests
[20:14] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @NotKit, Are there any such laptops?
[20:14] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> with Windows 10
[20:15] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> I think there are with 835, but not 845 yet
[20:25] <T-5> i initialized the repo with the manifest from https://github.com/ubports/android
[20:25] <T-5> do i have to do "repo sync" now or "repo sync <someproject>" to avoid downloading unised stuff?
[20:26] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> I'd just sync it all
[20:28] <T-5> ok, thanks again!
[20:40] <ubptgbot> Gussi was added by: Gussi
[20:40] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> Hello
[20:40] <ubptgbot> <vanyasem> @Gussi, welcome
[20:41] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> How is everyone doing today hope good
[20:47] <ubptgbot> <amolith> Do you mind if I forward what you asked here, Gussi?
[20:47] <ubptgbot> <amolith> [Edit] Do you mind if I forward what you said here, Gussi?
[20:48] <ubptgbot> <amolith> Or you could lol. Either way
[20:50] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> I'm willing to port UT to the Galaxy Note 3 N9008 (China) and this phone has an unofficial support for both cm5.1 and Los14.1 and found a source at the github on Los but not on cm and was kinda wondering if I should use the 14.1 or the 5.1 .
[20:50] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> Thanks Amolith
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> Second the halium tree source size I'm on limited network here and the unlimited is speed limited(14~30kb/s)  ...so I need to know the exact size so I can get a package to match the needs of the source. Tree
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> many GB
[20:52] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> like somewhere in the 15-20GB range i think?
[20:54] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> OK saw  the 2gb device sources is there anymore downloads needed during the porting phase
[20:55] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> @Gussi, Strange use of the word 'unlimited'. Unlimited water at one drop per hour …
[20:56] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Is there someone in your country who can help you with the downloads and send USB sticks maybe?
[20:56] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> Lol I'm saying what the carrier promoting but agreed
[20:58] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> @Stereofont, You can have it offline ! Nah I'm at Sudan and the only good network went from unlimited at low price to gbs at top dollar
[20:58] <ubptgbot> <amolith> wow
[21:02] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> @Stereofont, Is there anything other than changing directory anything else?
[21:02] <ubptgbot> <Gussi> @amolith, Indeed
[21:29] <ubptgbot> <Stereofont> Much respect to you for being so ambitious in such a difficult place
[22:12] <ubptgbot> bigcat4 was added by: bigcat4
[23:49] <ubptgbot> <amolith> @bigcat4, Welcome, Mark! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started and feel to ask any questions you may have in here or in our Welcome & Install room!