| rick_h_ | morning | 12:41 |
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| rick_h_ | does flatpak not have a place folks can stick things? | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | I'm curious on what the actual fallout was. e.g. did the confinement bits do their job? | 12:41 |
| rick_h_ | or were they put in as --classic or something that allowed it to do bad things still | 12:42 |
| jrwren | the prob was a bitcoin miner, so it didn't really have to break confinement, it only needed to use CPU | 13:31 |
| jrwren | and GPU | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: right, but how's that different than what folks can do with any other place to upload software? | 13:33 |
| jrwren | its not. it is snap getting a bad rep for something that could happen anywhere. | 13:34 |
| jrwren | its not likely to happen in core debian or ubuntu because that software is all built from source and reviewed, unlike these new binary distribution mechanisms. | 13:35 |
| jrwren | But really, it just as likely could have been a PPA. | 13:35 |
| jrwren | The difference is that one has to opt into a PPA. Snap is there by default in ubuntu now. | 13:35 |
| rick_h_ | Yea, I'll be curious how folks handle it internally | 13:37 |
| cmaloney | good morning | 13:41 |
| waldo323 | good morning | 13:53 |
| rick_h_ | party | 13:53 |
| jrwren | Good morning. | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: JoDee is experimenting with pour-over coffee | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: hah, fun stuff | 13:58 |
| cmaloney | we didn't go "full Rick" though. Not yet. | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: one tip, I found to really grind fine if possible | 13:58 |
| cmaloney | We didn't get the burr grinder yet | 13:58 |
| rick_h_ | hah ok | 13:58 |
| cmaloney | mostly because finding bean coffee locally is a real PITA | 13:59 |
| dzho | so, I've got this automatic drip coffee maker that takes the cone filters. It has this spring loaded stopper so you can pour from a half-brewed carafe: Remove the carafe and the stopper holds up (most of) the liquid still in the cone. | 13:59 |
| cmaloney | (we have a mill and brew coffee maker and grind in the basket) | 13:59 |
| cmaloney | dzho: you're half-way there | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: http://a.co/6t4rcWt great way to meditate the morning away :P | 13:59 |
| dzho | I do this thing where I wet the grounds the night before to let them soak. | 13:59 |
| rick_h_ | cmaloney: yea, I mail order from peets | 13:59 |
| jrwren | dang, I should try pour over. | 14:00 |
| dzho | Wegmans and Costco carry Peets here. | 14:00 |
| rick_h_ | dzho: cool | 14:00 |
| jrwren | its probably easier than french press. | 14:00 |
| rick_h_ | I find it less bitter since you get more of the smaller ground bits out | 14:00 |
| rick_h_ | the fresh press isn't fine enough and over time the coffee will get worse while it sits in the mug | 14:00 |
| dzho | I was inspired to try this when I tried cold brew and then had a total mess on my hands trying to pour grounds+liquid around to filter it. | 14:00 |
| rick_h_ | and the pour over let's me do iced/cold coffee really well. I make up a pitcher on the weekend and then have a glass of iced coffee each morning | 14:01 |
| rick_h_ | 60g of ground light roast coffee, pour over with 800g of kettle water + 300g of fresh cold water and yummy | 14:02 |
| brousch | The coffee grit is the best part of French press. Who doesn't like to chew their coffee? | 14:04 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 14:04 |
| dzho | heh | 14:05 |
| jrwren | brousch: well, when I grind my own its easy, to make a large grind perfect for french press | 14:05 |
| jrwren | but since preground is always sized for drip, yes, the grit is terrible. | 14:05 |
| brousch | I have had Biggby grind it, but it isn't large enough. The grinder at Meijer is large enough, but there's always residue from other people's grinds in there | 14:07 |
| dzho | hell is other people's grinds | 14:07 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I've never roasted myself but I love grinding myself | 14:08 |
| rick_h_ | I used to pre-grind and keep a bunch in the rv trailer but missed the fresher grind so now have that little hand grinder which works well | 14:09 |
| rick_h_ | but can be a bit of noise/work in the morning lol | 14:09 |
| dzho | we used to visit a friend's cottage. The hand grinder shook the whole place. | 14:10 |
| jrwren | brousch: buy your own grinder? | 14:12 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: oh! i love those little hand grinders! | 14:13 |
| brousch | I have a small one. I guess I could experiment and fine tune it | 14:13 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yea, nice simple and works well | 14:13 |
| jrwren | dzho: that sounds like a big table mount grinder. Those are cool too. | 14:13 |
| dzho | yeah. | 14:14 |
| jrwren | i use this, it is inexpensive enough and does a good job: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000AR7SY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 | 14:16 |
| jrwren | have had it for 7yrs or so, and its still going. | 14:16 |
| rick_h_ | nice, burr is the key. I used a bladed one at first and that was a disaster | 14:16 |
| jrwren | same. | 14:17 |
| rick_h_ | then I went all in http://a.co/8xBpaFt | 14:17 |
| jrwren | nice! | 14:17 |
| dzho | someone got a burred hand grinder to recommend? | 14:17 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it's like the kitchen aid mixers, last one you'll ever buy kind of things | 14:18 |
| rick_h_ | dzho: that one I linked is what I use when camping that's burr hand grinder | 14:18 |
| rick_h_ | http://a.co/6t4rcWt | 14:18 |
| dzho | oh thanks for reposting it I didn't look far enough back | 14:19 |
| rick_h_ | dzho: yea my bad, I realized it was probably more helpful to just link again :) | 14:20 |
| * rick_h_ blames monday | 14:20 | |
| dzho | yes, let's do that | 14:21 |
| waldo323 | I thought there were a few local places that brought beans in, one right by i3detroit | 15:00 |
| jrwren | what do you mean? to roast? there are lots of local roasts. Roos Roast in Ann Arbor for example. | 15:01 |
| cmaloney | I'm talking about selection at Meijer | 15:07 |
| cmaloney | seems they have a hard time not bringing everything in already ground | 15:07 |
| jrwren | 100% agree. | 15:09 |
| jrwren | especially if you are limited to decaf :( | 15:09 |
| cmaloney | Oh you're screwed if you can only drink decaf | 15:09 |
| cmaloney | at that point you're better served by the Keurig | 15:09 |
| cmaloney | which is sad | 15:09 |
| jrwren | I had to give up caffeine. :( I went threw withdrawal. It wasn't pretty. | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I have to remind myself to stick to one in the morning and to skip every so often | 15:10 |
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