[09:48] <juu> hi all, i'm starting to use the ibus vietnamese ime on Ubuntu.  how can I get to "!" on the keyboard.  it doesn't seem to be anywhere, including on the 'keyboard layout chart'.  currently i'm switching to another ime just to type it in.
[09:48] <SCrab> er
[09:49] <SCrab> don't use vnese keyboard layout
[09:49] <SCrab> just use us qwerty
[09:50] <n0bawk> US querty or PC105 layout works just fine :3
[09:51] <juu> do you mean just use an english ime?  not type tones etc?
[09:51] <juu> i'm selecting 'vi' under the ibus ime list.
[09:52] <SCrab> hmm
[09:52] <SCrab> we use 'ibus-unikey'
[09:53] <juu> hmm.. ok, i'll check the package.
[09:57] <juu> so it looks like i'm using ibus-table-viqr
[09:58] <juu> so will give ibus-unikey a try!
[09:58] <juu> cheers
[09:59] <n0bawk> we often use telex
[10:00] <n0bawk> it means if you want 'á', you will type 'a' and then 's'
[10:00] <n0bawk> 'à': 'a' + 'f'
[10:00] <n0bawk> 'ã': 'a' + 'x'
[10:00] <n0bawk> 'ạ': 'a' + 'j'
[10:00] <n0bawk> 'â': 'a' + 'a'
[10:01] <n0bawk> 'ă': 'a' + 'w'
[10:01] <juu> oh right. that's how it works on my android phone.
[10:01] <n0bawk> and so on
[10:01] <juu> that would be great on the desktop keyboard too.
[10:01] <juu> so it works with unikey hey?
[10:01] <n0bawk> juu: use ibus-unikey or fcitx-unikey
[10:02] <juu> thanks, i;ll try that.
[10:02] <n0bawk> telex should be the default one
[10:03] <n0bawk> no one maintains ibus-unikey; therefore, fcitx is better in my opinion
[10:19] <juu> telex unikey working great. thanks a lot guys.