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OvenWerksHuh, I just figgured out that a package can be both in bzr and in git.05:02
* OvenWerks has uploaded his first git to launchpad...05:02
OvenWerksLets see if it will build05:11
OvenWerkshttps://launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+archive/ubuntu/ppa05:32
OvenWerksshows a -controls package built from a new git package. I am trying to decide if I want this  version in the wild or if I should do a bit more work first. I am in the middle of making more than one usb device work.05:34
OvenWerksthis version does already include the fix to work with ondemand moved to systemd instead of init.d05:35
OvenWerksAs such, the git version will only be set to build for 18.04 and up.05:36
OvenWerksI think I will move things one more step before I move it to -devel05:40
OvenWerksErichEickmeyer: do you know if we have to get rid of the bzr branch right away, or if it is ok to leave it around for a bit. I am guessing the PPA packages will sit as they were last built.05:42
OvenWerksalso I am not sure if the name of the git branch will show as newer than the bzr branch. if not, I will bump the version number with no release ;)05:43
krytarikWe'll go with something that starts with "{debupstream}+git" anyway then, which sorts higher than "{debupstream}+bzr" naturally, so it will be fine.05:52
krytarikJust not quite clear on anything that follows it yet. >_>05:53
OvenWerksjust time... the commit numbers in git are rather long and not in order.05:54
krytarikYes, but we also already use time at the end, in case of history rewrites - which then would make the version string rather long.05:55
OvenWerkstodays was: ubuntustudio-controls_1.5-0~201805121430~ubuntu18.04.1_all.deb which sorts ahead (or lower) than ubuntustudio-controls_1.5+bzr146+201804061516~ubuntu16.04.1_all.deb05:57
OvenWerksthat is in my ppa, so when I move it to -devel I will add +git05:57
krytarikBtw, the proper namespace for your current repo would be this: lp:~len-ovenwerks/ubuntustudio-controls/+git/ubuntustudio-controls05:59
OvenWerksThats what it is.06:00
krytarikNope, look closer.06:00
OvenWerksOh ok... it won't stay long though06:01
krytarikYeah, but for the main one then.06:02
krytarikThen it'll show up here under Git: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-controls - before we switch the project's default VCS, of course.06:03
OvenWerksright now it is: lp:ubuntustudio-controls which is: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-controls/trunk06:03
OvenWerksour git page is https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+git06:03
krytarikThat of the dev team, yes.06:04
OvenWerksI guess I will ask when I get there06:04
OvenWerkskrytarik: this page says the name is right: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git06:08
OvenWerkssee in pushing code.06:08
OvenWerksI could have omitted the /+git/06:08
krytarikWell, it depends on the scope really - in this case it's not.06:08
krytarikYou could change both the owner and set a project here: https://code.launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+git/ubuntustudio-controls/+edit06:10
krytarikFor comparison, look at this: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+git06:11
krytarik* both change06:14
ErichEickmeyerOvenWerks: To answer your question, looks like it should happen as soon as possible. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-May/004455.html14:48
OvenWerksErichEickmeyer: I am not sure what that message says...14:58
OvenWerksThis is talking about seeds in particular, not other packages14:59
ErichEickmeyerI think that's all they want migrated at this point. 14:59
ErichEickmeyer¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:59
OvenWerksit seems to say they should all be done may8... last week.15:00
OvenWerksIt says no work is required of the teams15:00
OvenWerksThat would make me expect that someone else was doing the transition.15:00
ErichEickmeyerThen, I guess we're good, unless we wanna be hipster and migrate before everyone else. That said, I think we should minimize the workload and that it's not a priority.15:01
ErichEickmeyerI can try to get some clarification if you'd like.15:02
OvenWerksI don't think we have done our own meta since 16.10ish15:04
OvenWerksSo I don't know the "tooling" they are talking about.15:05
OvenWerksSo anyway from the wiki page they mention, it seems that all the old seed branches are supposed to end up in one git repo15:06
ErichEickmeyerWell, I just asked tsimonq2 in #ubuntu-flavors what he meant. If you want, I'd join that channel and talk to him directly, he seems to be the one coordinating this.15:06
ErichEickmeyerBasically, if I were you, I'd join that channel and talk to him directly.15:07
OvenWerksOK, I certainly have no problem with dealing with seeds in a git format15:07
OvenWerksErichEickmeyer: I only have so much time. I will probably not be going through everything we use converting them to git.15:08
OvenWerksnew packages like a desktop-plasma will just gets started as git.15:08
ErichEickmeyerOvenWerks: I'd do whatever it takes to minimize the impact on your time. 15:09
ErichEickmeyerAnd, that's not a bad idea. Migrate if you have time, but don't push yourself.15:09
ErichEickmeyerI'd hardly consider it a high priority.15:09
OvenWerksthe making of meta packages... and iso files is very much some dark art using spells and incantations mere mortals were never meant to understand.15:12
ErichEickmeyerJust heard back from tsimonq2. Basically, we're waiting on Adam Conrad (infinity) to make the final decision. Until then, we're in limbo with that project, so don't worry about that.15:19
ErichEickmeyerOvenWerks: ^15:20
OvenWerkscool, that was sort of my reading of things.15:26
OvenWerksgit would make managing seeds easier I think.15:26
ErichEickmeyerI think so too. I know git way better than I know bzr, personally.15:27
OvenWerksin the long run being able to work with only one revision control toolkit would be nice too.15:27
ErichEickmeyerI'm off to take the truck into the shop to have the clutch looked at.15:29
OvenWerkswell, I could "look" at it... fix, maybe not15:29
ErichEickmeyerOvenWerks: Haha! I don't think I could take it across the border. Canada hasn't liked me for about 14 years now. I must've pissed-off a border patrol agent.15:31
OvenWerksit would be a lot of work for me to say "yep, that there is a clutch all right"15:32
* OvenWerks needs to rebuild a clutch too, but the weight of the transmition and transfer case is more than I can deal with... and no lift to use either15:34
ErichEickmeyerhttp://ubuntustudio.org/2018/05/ubuntu-studio-development-news-may-14-201818:49
SlidingHornErichEickmeyer: posted to the subreddit19:27
SlidingHornI'll post it on the mastodon account - just need to know which email address eylul used to create it, as they don't use the username for logins.  (didn't think to ask that they other day, lol_19:27
eylulslidinghorn: it is eylul@ubuntustudio.org but that is temporary but I forgot to bring this up at the meeting, we should probably have a ubuntustudio.org email that everyone responsible for social media gets the forwards from. Not sure if we have such an account at the moment or not. Devel mailing list is not a good place for it, as this account will also be used for password resets etc.19:31
OvenWerksSlidingHorn: did you get that desktop file I left yesterday?21:18
SlidingHornmy laptop (on which I run my IRC) froze up last night.  I'll pull it from the log tonight21:19
ErichEickmeyerSlidingHorn: Thanks!23:02
ErichEickmeyerSlidingHorn: Though, including the link would've been good. :)23:04
ErichEickmeyerSlidingHorn: Also, I don't know if either of those mods are even active. Might be time for /r/ubuntustudio-official.23:08
SlidingHornI meant to - somehow forgot :/23:34
SlidingHornIt's edited w/ the link now23:34
SlidingHornare the mods part of the old dev crew?  We could just see if they'll hand it over23:35
ErichEickmeyerWell, those accounts haven't been active in months if not years. If they hand it over, sure. Otherwise, we'd have to start a new subreddit.23:49

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