[00:01] <crimson_king> I'd appreciate a recommendation for a Sound Converter (GTK) alternative written in Qt or for KDE.
[00:03] <crimson_king> Something to convert mp3 to ogg, but that integrates with Qt/KDE
[00:04] <crimson_king> Oh, found one. soundKonverter.
[02:39] <j74> Hi, how I can upgrade my system please?, not upgrade correctly.
 @j74, sudo apt upgrade … sudo apt dist-upgrade
[02:40] <j74> ah, ok
[02:40] <j74> thanx
 @j74, First: sudo apt update
 @j74, Then the other command
[06:05] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:09] <valorie> hi lordievader
[06:09] <lordievader> Hey valorie
[06:09] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:10] <valorie> doing good
[06:11] <valorie> feels great to have the LTS out the door and be planning for 18.10 and forward
[06:11] <lordievader> 👍
[08:18] <mbuettner> gute tag
[08:43] <lordievader> 👋
[09:08] <IrcsomeBot3> Dr4g0nS was added by: Dr4g0nS
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:36] <viewer|61449> Hi There, I would like to create a distro based on Ubuntu or debian. Would you recommend me to create distro from Debian or Ubuntu? I am not that in Tech, so I don't know pros and cons. In addition, I am looking for someone who is good in coding and he or she wants to help. Thanks
[12:38] <viewer|61449> also is possible to create a new distrom from ubuntu or debian and get paid for it? I mean, not having open source, but have it as for commercial...
[12:39] <viewer|61449> I do python coding, but I am more interested in design...
 I think for your level of experience, you might find OpenSuSe a good place to start for a customised distro
 any  one to help me remove  this preferencies to desktop
 (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ySubv011/file_6822.jpg i need remove this preferencies to desktop
 I prefer to have a small team and base is on Debian or Ubuntu and not jumping from one distro to another distro.
[12:48] <viewer|61449> ... of course I can look at OpenSuSe, but as I said,... if I have a team, then I could focus on design, strategy and so on and other could work as a developer.
[12:49] <viewer|61449> to <Sick_Rimmit> btw. do you know where could I find some developers?
[13:22] <Mrokii> viewer|61449: Why would you want to create a new distro in the first place? This isn't meant as an insult, but if you don't even know the pros and cons of one already existing distro from another, how do you know that you *need* to create a new one?
[13:25] <mparillo_> viewer|61449: And as far as not having open source, the short answer is no you cannot.
[13:26] <mparillo_> When you take from a GPL, you may not distribute without it also being GPL.
[13:26] <mparillo_> If you want to close your source, you will need to start with projects with permissive licenses, like BSD, MIT, Apache, etc.
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ambition without the correct knowledge can lead to extreme frustration
[13:33] <viewer|61449> I do research.
[13:33] <viewer|61449> this is a research first and then I will see.
[13:36] <Mrokii> The first thing I would do is to really make sure that what you want to achieve isn't possible with an already established distro. I am just a regular user, but even creating a distro based on another one would most probably be a lot of work, not even mentioning the infrastructure needed, the organisation of such a project, etc.
[13:41] <Mrokii> If it's some apps that you miss or some functionality, the easier way would be to contribute to a project, or, if your ideas aren't accepted, fork the specific app(s).
[13:42] <Mrokii> Just my two cents, of course.
[13:47] <viewer|61449> thanks Mrokii, I will think about it.
[13:48] <Mrokii> viewer|61449: You're welcome.
[14:09] <djordn> Hi everyone
[14:17] <BluesKaj> hi djordn
[14:18] <android6011> I can't for the life of me find how to add an openvpn connection. All guides so go to connection editor and click "add new connection" but there is no button or menu in the connection editor
[14:20] <Mrokii> android6011: For me, there is a "+"-button below the list of available networks.
[14:20] <Mrokii> Which lets me add new connections, including VPN-ones.
[14:20] <android6011> Mrokii: maybe im in the wrong place, im in the "Connections - System Settings Module" and see my wired connection listed but thers no + anywhere near the list
[14:21] <Mrokii> android6011: That's where I am as well.
[14:21] <android6011> https://imgur.com/a/6Zu5o8r
[14:22] <Mrokii> android6011: A possibly silly question, but have you tried heightening the window?
[14:22] <android6011> ugh nvm :/ window wasnt expanded enough
[14:22] <android6011> ty
[14:22] <Mrokii> Yep, that's what I thought. :)
[14:23] <Mrokii> It's kind of silly, as the elements shouldn't be hidden if the window is too small, imho.
[14:23] <android6011> ya, i'd think that the window would fit to the "needed" size if you have high enough resolution
[14:25] <Mrokii> That would be best, yes.
[14:27] <BluesKaj> android6011, openvpn needs the .ovpn files your vpn provider should have available on it's website unless youit also provides an installable gui, also you need to install network-manager-openvpn, unless the provider's installer automatically installs that as well.
[14:29] <BluesKaj> the .ovpn files should be placed in /etc/openvpn
[14:29] <android6011> BluesKaj: ya, I have ovpn and that installed,
[14:29] <android6011> hitting connect doesnt seem to be doing anything though
[14:30] <android6011> is there a log somewhere?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> an did the vpn provider give you access to authorization in form of username and password ?
[14:31] <android6011> BluesKaj: its for work, has users certs + user/pass
[14:31] <android6011> the connection settings look ok, sees all the *.p12, entered username + pass and then dialog disappears
[14:35] <BluesKaj> then check netstat -tapen to see if your client is connecting, or check your browser for new IP which the vpn server shows, like here https://www.ip-tracker.org
[14:37] <android6011> BluesKaj: doesnt look like it's trying. never seeing vpn ip showing up
[14:40] <BluesKaj> make sure you have netweork-manager-openvpn installed
[14:41] <android6011> i do, not sure if I've logged out/in since I had installed it though. does that matter?
[14:42] <BluesKaj> it might
[14:43] <BluesKaj> correction: network-manager-openvpn
[14:43] <enkeyz> y
[15:06] <android6011> BluesKaj: i got it, thanks for the help. the import references the wrong certs + key files, just had to point it to the right ones
[15:06] <android6011> and it didnt like when i pointed it to combined .p12 for ca + user
[15:10] <BluesKaj> android6011, I'm happy you have it working :-)
[18:05] <marty> Hi. I'm searching for dbg packages so I can send useful bug reports. Where can I find e.g. plasma-discover-dbg ?
[18:06] <denza242> should be in muon
[18:06] <acheronuk> marty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[18:07] <acheronuk> -dbgsym for most things now
[18:10] <marty> Thanks for the link. It works :-)
[20:39] <zezalos079> hi
[20:40] <zezalos079> im having a small problem with kubuntu anyone can/want to help?
[20:45] <IrcsomeBot3> Alien was added by: Alien
[20:46] <zezalos079> anyone here?
[20:46] <krytarik> Asking the actual question might work out better.
[20:48] <zezalos079> yeah so im trying kubuntu on a usb
[20:48] <zezalos079> but when i press the meta key the launcher wont show up
[20:49] <zezalos079> 10 minutes ago it worked just fine
[23:50] <earas> hey
[23:50] <earas> am i alone?