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tdaitxhi, could someone please set LP: #1771363 importance to High and also create a bionic task with High importance for both LP: #1771363 and LP: #1739631?14:15
ubot5Launchpad bug 1771363 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu) "ca-certificates-java: convert PKCS12 cacerts keystore to JKS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177136314:15
ubot5Launchpad bug 1739631 in ca-certificates-java (Ubuntu) "Fresh install with JDK 9 can't use the generated PKCS12 cacerts keystore file" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173963114:15
tedgeHi, I filed a StableReleaseUpdate bug a few days ago for pikopixel.app (pixel-editing app in the universe repo), but there's been no response so far.17:24
tedgeCan someone please take a look, and let me know if I did it right?17:24
tedgehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pikopixel.app/+bug/177077717:24
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1770777 in pikopixel.app (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Bionic: PikoPixel 1.0 BETA9b can crash when resizing a document window" [Undecided,New]17:24
tewardtedge: patience is a virtue, SRUs take time to review17:26
tewardand there's a bunch of them17:26
tewardnot to mention someone has to download the updated source code, adjust the package, test the package, etc. typically to make sure it all works.17:28
rbasakteward: you should ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu. This channel is for bug triage only. I don't see prepared packaging for Bionic though?17:28
tewardtedge: ^17:28
tewardi was about to say that as well17:28
rbasakUh yeah sorry.17:28
tewardrbasak: No problem :)17:28
rbasaktedge: you can't just "update Bionic to Cosmic's version". It will need a rebuild, and thus a new version number. Therefore updated packaging. Usually sponsors expect this to already be prepared and tested.17:29
tedgeThanks, teward. This is the first time I've filed a SRU, so I didn't know what to expect in terms of timeframe.17:30
tewardtedge: rbasak is right though17:30
teward*is operating on no coffee right now >.<*17:30
tedgerbasak: Thanks. I'm the upstream developer, not a packager. Would -devel or -motu be the appropriate place to ask for help rebuilding the package, or should I go to ubuntu-packaging?17:35
tewardtedge: i think you need someone who knows packaging to volunteer to work on the patching.17:35
tewardeither -devel or -motu would work, but the core question is "Who will prepare the packaging"17:36
tewardif you don't know how then someone needs to step up to help with that step17:36
tewardor the SRU goes nowhere.17:36
rbasaktedge: given it's for Ubuntu itself, I think people in -devel and/or -motu would be happy to answer questions. But yeah, it needs someone to be prepared to do the packaging side.17:36
tedgeunfortunately, it hasn't been packaged specifically for Ubuntu before (it's only been inherited directly from Debian), so I don't know anyone yet.17:43
teward*yawns from boredom*17:43
tewardi could use a break, let me see how difficult patching it would be17:43
tedgeI'll ask around in -devel/-motu, thanks for the tip!17:43
tedgeteward: that would be great! let me know if I can answer any questions about the sources.17:44
tewardprovided of course I don't get killed by work :P18:22
tewardrbasak: making tedge's code work would need an MRE18:26
tewardsince there's no visible upstream VCS repo where the package code can be nitpicked18:26
tewardso any 'patch' is going to basically be a full MRE18:26
tedgeThe Debian GNUstep team has a VCS repo for the package, with a mirror of the upstream sources: https://salsa.debian.org/gnustep-team/pikopixel.app18:28
tewardwell18:28
tewardkinda18:28
tewardbut not really18:28
tewardthey're just importing the tarballs18:28
tewardand the taking that source and putting it in the repos18:28
tewardI'm asking if *you* have a nitpicked patch that doesn't require a full version bump to fix *just* this one issue18:28
tewardwhich judging by your changelogs sounds like "more than one issue" at play18:29
tewardwe can continue this discussion in a more valid channel though18:29
tedgewhat channel do you want to go to?18:32
augeusteward, wrt yesterday's thing, I also wrote a trivial patch that enables my system to process emoji domains18:50
tewardaugeus: nice, I'd share that on some page so that others can benefit, even if it's in a gist.18:51
* augeus uploaded it to launchpad (attch. on the bugreport)18:51
tewardi've got 50 bugreports on my screen from today and yesterday, mind reminding me which bug report?18:52
augeus#177110918:52
augeusIt's a *very* trivial patch, and it's most probably not the way to do things, but, hey, it works for me :)18:53
augeusteward, So, what do you think? Am I handling this correctly?20:07
rbasakaugeus: has that patch been accepted upstream?20:21
rbasakaugeus: if not, I'm not sure it's appropriate for Ubuntu to diverge from upstream behaviour on this.20:21
augeusI see20:22
rbasakEspecially for stuff like IDN because that's very security sensitive.20:22
augeusThanks for the info -- I will bring this up upstream20:22
rbasakI'll comment that on the bug.20:22
augeusI'm not really familiar with the procedures involved20:22
augeusSorry if I'm pestering you :)20:22
rbasakNo problem. We're always looking for volunteers to help with getting changes landed, and so we're usually quite happy to explain (and take feedback on) procedures.20:23
rbasakPlease try to use #ubuntu-devel though. This channel isn't really appropriate, and you're more likely to readily get help there.20:24
* augeus does not know much about distro politics20:24
augeusNever had to submit a bug report/patch to a distribution -- I am fairly cautious when choosing hardware and software, so I usually don't run into issues20:25
augeusSo, even though I can code, I never had to go through this20:25
augeusImagine, I've been in this ride for some time, too20:26
augeusSo, yeah. I'll be asking upstream, see what they think about this20:27
rbasakI'm not sure this is really about politics. More about which way patches flow through the ecosystem.20:28
augeusWell, it's a form of formal bureaucracy, which exists for a good reason, but it helps if one obtains some help in navigating it :)20:29
tewardrbasak: i replied to your PMs, by the way.  I may need to do some heavy-duty grinding down to find the specific fixes...20:48
teward... after dinner and voting.  *gone*20:48

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