[14:15] <tdaitx> hi, could someone please set LP: #1771363 importance to High and also create a bionic task with High importance for both LP: #1771363 and LP: #1739631?
[17:24] <tedge> Hi, I filed a StableReleaseUpdate bug a few days ago for pikopixel.app (pixel-editing app in the universe repo), but there's been no response so far.
[17:24] <tedge> Can someone please take a look, and let me know if I did it right?
[17:24] <tedge> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pikopixel.app/+bug/1770777
[17:26] <teward> tedge: patience is a virtue, SRUs take time to review
[17:26] <teward> and there's a bunch of them
[17:28] <teward> not to mention someone has to download the updated source code, adjust the package, test the package, etc. typically to make sure it all works.
[17:28] <rbasak> teward: you should ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu. This channel is for bug triage only. I don't see prepared packaging for Bionic though?
[17:28] <teward> tedge: ^
[17:28] <teward> i was about to say that as well
[17:28] <rbasak> Uh yeah sorry.
[17:28] <teward> rbasak: No problem :)
[17:29] <rbasak> tedge: you can't just "update Bionic to Cosmic's version". It will need a rebuild, and thus a new version number. Therefore updated packaging. Usually sponsors expect this to already be prepared and tested.
[17:30] <tedge> Thanks, teward. This is the first time I've filed a SRU, so I didn't know what to expect in terms of timeframe.
[17:30] <teward> tedge: rbasak is right though
[17:30] <teward> *is operating on no coffee right now >.<*
[17:35] <tedge> rbasak: Thanks. I'm the upstream developer, not a packager. Would -devel or -motu be the appropriate place to ask for help rebuilding the package, or should I go to ubuntu-packaging?
[17:35] <teward> tedge: i think you need someone who knows packaging to volunteer to work on the patching.
[17:36] <teward> either -devel or -motu would work, but the core question is "Who will prepare the packaging"
[17:36] <teward> if you don't know how then someone needs to step up to help with that step
[17:36] <teward> or the SRU goes nowhere.
[17:36] <rbasak> tedge: given it's for Ubuntu itself, I think people in -devel and/or -motu would be happy to answer questions. But yeah, it needs someone to be prepared to do the packaging side.
[17:43] <tedge> unfortunately, it hasn't been packaged specifically for Ubuntu before (it's only been inherited directly from Debian), so I don't know anyone yet.
[17:43] <teward> *yawns from boredom*
[17:43] <teward> i could use a break, let me see how difficult patching it would be
[17:43] <tedge> I'll ask around in -devel/-motu, thanks for the tip!
[17:44] <tedge> teward: that would be great! let me know if I can answer any questions about the sources.
[18:22] <teward> provided of course I don't get killed by work :P
[18:26] <teward> rbasak: making tedge's code work would need an MRE
[18:26] <teward> since there's no visible upstream VCS repo where the package code can be nitpicked
[18:26] <teward> so any 'patch' is going to basically be a full MRE
[18:28] <tedge> The Debian GNUstep team has a VCS repo for the package, with a mirror of the upstream sources: https://salsa.debian.org/gnustep-team/pikopixel.app
[18:28] <teward> well
[18:28] <teward> kinda
[18:28] <teward> but not really
[18:28] <teward> they're just importing the tarballs
[18:28] <teward> and the taking that source and putting it in the repos
[18:28] <teward> I'm asking if *you* have a nitpicked patch that doesn't require a full version bump to fix *just* this one issue
[18:29] <teward> which judging by your changelogs sounds like "more than one issue" at play
[18:29] <teward> we can continue this discussion in a more valid channel though
[18:32] <tedge> what channel do you want to go to?
[18:50] <augeus> teward, wrt yesterday's thing, I also wrote a trivial patch that enables my system to process emoji domains
[18:51] <teward> augeus: nice, I'd share that on some page so that others can benefit, even if it's in a gist.
[18:51]  * augeus uploaded it to launchpad (attch. on the bugreport)
[18:52] <teward> i've got 50 bugreports on my screen from today and yesterday, mind reminding me which bug report?
[18:52] <augeus> #1771109
[18:53] <augeus> It's a *very* trivial patch, and it's most probably not the way to do things, but, hey, it works for me :)
[20:07] <augeus> teward, So, what do you think? Am I handling this correctly?
[20:21] <rbasak> augeus: has that patch been accepted upstream?
[20:21] <rbasak> augeus: if not, I'm not sure it's appropriate for Ubuntu to diverge from upstream behaviour on this.
[20:22] <augeus> I see
[20:22] <rbasak> Especially for stuff like IDN because that's very security sensitive.
[20:22] <augeus> Thanks for the info -- I will bring this up upstream
[20:22] <rbasak> I'll comment that on the bug.
[20:22] <augeus> I'm not really familiar with the procedures involved
[20:22] <augeus> Sorry if I'm pestering you :)
[20:23] <rbasak> No problem. We're always looking for volunteers to help with getting changes landed, and so we're usually quite happy to explain (and take feedback on) procedures.
[20:24] <rbasak> Please try to use #ubuntu-devel though. This channel isn't really appropriate, and you're more likely to readily get help there.
[20:24]  * augeus does not know much about distro politics
[20:25] <augeus> Never had to submit a bug report/patch to a distribution -- I am fairly cautious when choosing hardware and software, so I usually don't run into issues
[20:25] <augeus> So, even though I can code, I never had to go through this
[20:26] <augeus> Imagine, I've been in this ride for some time, too
[20:27] <augeus> So, yeah. I'll be asking upstream, see what they think about this
[20:28] <rbasak> I'm not sure this is really about politics. More about which way patches flow through the ecosystem.
[20:29] <augeus> Well, it's a form of formal bureaucracy, which exists for a good reason, but it helps if one obtains some help in navigating it :)
[20:48] <teward> rbasak: i replied to your PMs, by the way.  I may need to do some heavy-duty grinding down to find the specific fixes...
[20:48] <teward> ... after dinner and voting.  *gone*