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wxl@tsimonq2: i'd like to do that sooner than later, honestly. people are still filing bugs against it and it kind of sucks.00:21
wxl@tsimonq2: are we listing anywhere that people should file against lubuntu next?00:21
lubot2<tsimonq2> No.00:21
lubot2<tsimonq2> I can JFDI.00:21
wxlor i can00:21
wxljust need the ok and how we should do it00:21
wxli think just turn off bugs00:21
wxlthoughts?00:22
wxli'm gonna clean up the bugs00:24
lubot2<tsimonq2> Yeah JFDI.00:31
wxl@tsimonq2: done, with a note in the description. might want to do something with https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-next, too. i don't have access01:03
tsimonq2Roger that.01:04
tsimonq2wxl: Any luck on the slideshow?01:04
wxl@tsimonq2: haven't left work yet so no :)01:04
tsimonq2wxl: Ah, k.01:04
wxlbut i made you some nice cards on the workboard01:04
wxlbut you didn't make me one...........01:04
tsimonq2wxl: What's with bug 1764399?!?!?! I really really REALLY hope that doesn't affect Bionic.01:04
ubot93Bug 1764399 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "running apport in terminal doesn't work, as python3-launchpadlib is not installed by default in Lubuntu Bionic" [Critical, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176439901:04
tsimonq2Yeah yeah, I'll make you one now. :P01:05
wxli found another bug while trying to figure out another one so i have that to deal with too01:05
tsimonq2Alright.01:05
tsimonq2Thanks man!01:05
wxlnp01:05
wxljust so you know: can't use apport in cosmic or bionic right now :(01:05
tsimonq2waaaaaaaaaaaaaaat01:06
wxlcosmic's calling for qupzilla and i'm trying to figure out where the problem is. i changed it in the default settings everywhere and it's still not launching falkon for whatever reason01:06
wxlbionic is missing the py3-launchpadlib01:06
tsimonq2aaaaaaaaaaargh01:07
tsimonq2wxl: Can you fight that fire?01:07
tsimonq2ofc you probably need me to sponsor a lubuntu-meta update, aye?01:07
wxlprolly yes01:07
tsimonq2Speaking of that, you have indirect push access to the seed.01:08
tsimonq2So, JFDI.01:08
wxloh01:08
wxljust to be clear, i add that to core?01:08
tsimonq2wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2701:08
tsimonq2mhhh01:08
tsimonq2yeah01:08
tsimonq2Sounds good to me.01:08
wxlthx01:08
tsimonq2np01:09
tsimonq2wxl: Adding it to the seed automatically pulls it in on all new image builds but a lubuntu-meta update needs to be pushed through, and fast, for existing users.01:09
tsimonq2wxl: Give me an upload that you're *absolutely* sure about, then poke whoever is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Publishing01:10
wxlum wait there's core now XD01:10
tsimonq2On *bionic*01:10
tsimonq2lol01:10
wxlderpy derp derp derp01:10
tsimonq2wxl: And as backup, I'd personally poke Adam and/or Steve01:11
tsimonq2They both can push buttons.01:11
tsimonq2But yeah.01:11
tsimonq2Let's get it solved. :D01:11
wxlcore core or core share?01:11
wxlomg this seed is going to make me pull my hair out01:12
tsimonq2core share core core share core01:12
tsimonq2XD01:12
wxlpushed01:13
tsimonq2OMG YOU BROKE EVERYTHING AAAAHHH01:13
wxlOH NO WHAT01:13
tsimonq2loljk XD01:13
wxljesus, man.01:13
tsimonq2XD01:13
tsimonq2wxl: Nah but in all seriousness it looks good01:14
wxlso will the bug report get auto updated with the bug number mentioned?01:14
tsimonq2It won't, unfortunately.01:14
tsimonq2Wanna create a task for someone to write a script that does that? XD01:14
wxlnot it :)01:15
tsimonq2C'mon, just create the task. :)01:15
tsimonq2Assign it to me, whatever01:15
wxlfiiiiiiiiiiiine01:15
wxlbut you better fix lubuntu-meta01:15
tsimonq2Yeah yeah01:15
tsimonq2wait01:15
tsimonq2You want my name on the Bionic lubuntu-meta upload?01:15
wxli don't care01:16
tsimonq2alright01:16
tsimonq2JFDI'ing01:16
wxli mean it SHOULD be me but XD01:16
wxlis that script only required for the seeds?01:16
tsimonq2Nah, for all of our Git repos01:16
tsimonq2There's a regex *somewhere* we can grab01:16
tsimonq2If the commit message has matching text, trigger some launchpadlib happiness to DTRT.01:17
wxlOUR git repos or git repos in general?01:17
tsimonq2For ours.01:17
tsimonq2Although people can prolly use it for theirs too.01:17
wxlwouldn't it make more sense to have launchpad provide the fix?01:18
wxli mean they do the same for bzr01:18
wxlright? or do i not understand something01:18
tsimonq2I *think* they called "won't fix" on it01:18
wxlreally??01:18
wxlthat seems silly01:18
tsimonq2Something along the lines of "what if you push a whole Git repo?"01:18
wxlbut they do it with bzr!!!!01:18
tsimonq2Anyway, wxl, I call not it on updating bug 1764399 with a SRU template.01:19
ubot93Bug 1764399 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "running apport in terminal doesn't work, as python3-launchpadlib is not installed by default in Lubuntu Bionic" [Critical, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176439901:19
tsimonq2¯\_(ツ)_/¯01:19
tsimonq2Ask Colin.01:19
wxloh mannnnnnnnn01:19
wxlcome on01:19
tsimonq2hehe, love ya wxl 01:19
wxlwell you're going to have to help me with it so there01:21
wxlyou might want to jfdi if you don't want constant pings from me :)01:21
tsimonq2SRU bug template or LP thing?01:21
wxlSRU01:21
wxli'm on the LP thing01:21
tsimonq2ah01:22
tsimonq2on it01:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] lubuntu-lugito pushed 1 new commit to bionic: https://git.io/vpdqN01:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/bionic 9f594e9 Walter Lapchynski: added python3-launchpadlib to bionic for apport; fixes LP: #176439901:25
wxl@tsimonq2: diffusion seems to be quite a bit behind01:27
tsimonq2wxl: link?01:28
wxlhttps://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/repository/bionic/01:28
tsimonq2ah01:28
* tsimonq2 adds to the bottom of the long list01:28
wxlthat's from 2-13 :/01:28
tsimonq2YeAH01:28
wxland there have been many commits since then01:28
wxlso something's broken01:29
tsimonq2riiiight01:29
tsimonq2well01:29
tsimonq2OHHHHHHHHHHH01:29
tsimonq2I know01:29
tsimonq2sec01:29
wxlok now you broke the world @tsimonq2 01:37
tsimonq2oh?01:37
wxlUnhandled Exception ("DiffusionRefNotFoundException")01:37
wxlRef "bionic" does not exist in this repository.01:37
wxland in fact01:38
wxlNo Default Branch01:38
wxlThis repository is configured with default branch "bionic" but there is no branch with that name in this repository.01:38
wxland now we're 404ing @tsimonq2 01:43
wxlyou're nuking everything :)01:43
tsimonq2SHUSH01:43
tsimonq2:)01:43
wxldid you delete it? if so all refs to R3 are going to break01:44
wxloh jeez now the other repos end up in 502 Bad Gateways O_O01:45
wxlWHAT ARE YOU DOING MAN01:45
tsimonq2wxl: UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH01:49
wxldon't blame me01:49
tsimonq2I can't figure out WHAT I'm doing wrong.01:49
wxlthat's weird because you set it all up!01:49
wxldid you try copying the config of the other ones/01:49
tsimonq2wxl: HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY OMG LOOK https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/01:58
tsimonq2Importing now.01:58
tsimonq2I FIXED IT YAY01:58
wxlphew01:59
wxldocument that in case it happens again01:59
tsimonq2k now I need to prod the others01:59
wxlyeah01:59
wxlsomething's funky with the others01:59
wxlhttps://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/01:59
tsimonq2I might nuke and pave those repos...01:59
tsimonq2That's what I had to do with the seed.01:59
tsimonq2Besides, that needs reworking anyway.02:00
wxlsad cuz as i said the ref names get messed up02:00
tsimonq2Got an example?02:00
tsimonq2wxl: Now that Phab is saved, let's get that SRU out of the way.02:01
wxlit's called a callsign02:03
wxlso if we make sure that the callsigns are set by us, then it's all good02:03
tsimonq2OK02:03
wxlif we go with the default (R#) then it can lead to problems if we re-add the repo02:03
tsimonq2right02:03
tsimonq2wxl: Does cosmic have python3-launchpadlib now too?02:04
wxlyep02:04
tsimonq2BTW, your name is on this bionic upload02:05
tsimonq2kthxbai02:05
wxluhhh02:06
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.94 => 0.94.1] (lubuntu)02:06
wxlunaapproved02:06
tsimonq2Yeah02:07
tsimonq2sooooooooooooo02:07
tsimonq2Remember that chart I linked?02:07
wxlno02:07
tsimonq2Go poke.02:07
tsimonq2uhh02:07
tsimonq2https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Publishing02:07
tsimonq2wxl: ^02:07
wxlthere's no bionic branch on the seed02:07
tsimonq2uh what?02:08
wxlthere's only cosmic and master it seems02:08
tsimonq2HAH because I cloned the wrong thing02:08
tsimonq2Fixing...02:09
wxloh all the repos are gone now?02:11
tsimonq2Yep, I nuked.02:12
wxlsee how the callsign URI works? https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26#45502:12
tsimonq2oooooh02:12
tsimonq2nice02:12
wxlso if you ever delete something, just revert the callsign back to the way it was02:13
tsimonq2Right02:13
wxlusing things that make sense ("SEED" not "R3") will probably help with mnemonics02:13
tsimonq2wxl: I need to take Phab down for an hourish to do Artful -> Bionic.02:13
tsimonq2Right.02:13
wxlthat said, anything else left to do?02:13
tsimonq2Not right now, just setting up additional repos.02:13
tsimonq2Phab's now down, but this is expected.02:23
tsimonq2Maintenance is done.02:53
tsimonq2wxl: So, Raf hasn't been around today and Julien hasn't voiced an opinion.03:21
tsimonq2I'd like to clean up lubuntu-artwork.03:21
tsimonq2I'm thinking the right solution might be the same as what I did with the default settings, and that is, move old stuff to a different repo.03:22
tsimonq2I'll go ahead with that unless you object.03:22
wxli think structural changes are fine as long as there are no functional changes03:22
tsimonq2OK.03:22
wxlthat's my 2¢03:22
wxlor 2€ for those two :)03:22
tsimonq2I mean, it's not "functional" changes, but it does need some finagling with the binary packages and adding of Breaks/Replaces03:23
wxlwell i'd still consider that structural03:24
tsimonq2Yeah.03:24
tsimonq2OK, cool.03:24
wxlthose are changes required to support the structure03:24
tsimonq2Right.03:24
wxlalso can we get an SRU to get rid of the Qt session in Bionic? it's a freaking mess.03:25
tsimonq2Throw me a task.03:25
wxlk03:25
tsimonq2I THINK it's a metapackage issue.03:25
wxli'll give you some fodder03:25
tsimonq2Because in order to get the Qt session, you need a binary package in Bionic.03:25
tsimonq2For Cosmic, I've reworked that.03:26
wxlwait huh. i think the Qt session is there in default Bionic.03:26
wxlyep03:27
wxland it's broken because it calls /usr/bin/startlxqt which doesn't exist03:28
tsimonq2And the reverse happened with "Lubuntu" in Cosmic. startlxde didn't exist.03:29
wxlwell, lxsession03:29
tsimonq2yeah that03:29
wxl@tsimonq2: i've got everything carved out of ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu. where do you want me to go from here? should i edit the changelog and push it and create a merge proposal?03:36
tsimonq2wxl: Please.03:37
wxldch -i, right?03:37
tsimonq2dch -r03:37
wxlyou sure about that? not a new version number?03:38
tsimonq2Well, first you need to do just "dch" to create the changelog entry. XD03:38
wxlkk03:39
tsimonq2ll03:39
wxlbut i thought dch -i did both03:39
* wxl shrugs03:39
wxluh do i need to make the branch before pushing to it?03:47
wxli didn't think i did03:47
tsimonq2No, you don;t.03:47
wxlwth then03:47
tsimonq2Share with the class03:47
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.94.1]03:52
tsimonq2wxl: Adam accepted lubuntu-meta. ^^^^03:56
tsimonq2wxl: Just needs verification, and we can argue for waiving the aging period.03:56
wxlnice03:57
tsimonq2So, verify it. .)03:57
wxli got an upload of the slideshow finally03:57
tsimonq2*;)03:57
tsimonq2\o/03:57
tsimonq2Link?03:57
wxl1s03:57
wxlyou don't want a merge proposal?03:57
tsimonq2I want that03:57
tsimonq2Yeah03:57
tsimonq2That's what I'm asking for. :P03:57
wxlthen shush it03:57
wxlhttps://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/delete-lubuntu/+merge/34563703:58
wxlhuh i thought we were unreleased until released04:01
wxlshall i re-push04:01
wxl?04:01
tsimonq2Well TECHNICALLY yeah. But I always finalize it so it's easy for them to upload.04:02
tsimonq2Yeah, just make another commit.04:02
wxli forgot do i need to make a new mp?04:03
tsimonq2no04:03
wxlk04:03
tsimonq2l04:03
wxlok now let me know when lubuntu-meta is available and i'll test that for you04:04
tsimonq2It is available.04:05
wxldid i tell you about mk-sbuild and development releases? 04:13
tsimonq2Let me guess: one of debootstrap or distro-info-data wasn't updated.04:15
tsimonq2wxl: amirite?04:15
wxlif not `ll /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts | grep gutsy`04:15
Unit193tsimonq2: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/1.0.97ubuntu104:16
tsimonq2Unit193: He's running Bionic.04:17
tsimonq2Unit193: I was thinking that perhaps the SRU for that didn't go through yet.04:17
tsimonq2And, it didn't...04:17
tsimonq2sigh04:17
Unit193Clearly not.04:17
wxli don't think you're right about the cosmic seed, tsimonq2 04:19
tsimonq2Oh?04:19
wxli think it works fine (py3-lplib)04:19
wxland nothing good is showing up in proposed......04:19
tsimonq2I'm about to fire off that lubuntu-artwork update.04:20
wxlhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gg4NXGpgW404:21
wxlthat's what i got from proposed04:21
tsimonq2Right, because lubuntu-default-settings isn't installable yet.04:21
wxlhm?04:22
tsimonq2http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#lubuntu-default-settings04:22
tsimonq2http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt04:22
tsimonq2RTFM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration04:22
tsimonq2:)04:22
wxlok well let me know when i can test this thing then :/04:23
tsimonq2Soon.04:24
wxlget me all hot and bothered for nothing04:24
tsimonq2Love ya wxl. ;)04:24
wxluhhhhh huh04:24
tsimonq2XD04:24
tsimonq2wxl: Metapackage update running locally.04:33
tsimonq2When it's done, I'll throw it at Cosmic.04:33
wxluh how do i snag source for a package again?04:44
wxlnevermind04:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] lubuntu-lugito pushed 1 new commit to cosmic: https://git.io/vpdCv04:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/cosmic 3ac401e Simon Quigley: Adjust the seed for the Lubuntu-specific package rework.04:55
lubot2<coolpolygons> That was long07:07
lubot2<coolpolygons> Heheheheh07:07
wxlthat's what happens when you're getting stuff done07:09
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, I'm one of the admins. Not the only one though.09:41
lubot2<tsimonq2> wxl: k so with this default settings bug...19:16
lubot2<tsimonq2> Someone needs to log in and see what the XDG variables are set to.19:16
lubot2<tsimonq2> That can tell us exactly what's wrong almost immediately.19:16
wxlgimme a bit. i've got a long list right now19:19
lubot2<tsimonq2> Same here.19:19
wxl@VikingRedwolf who else?19:56
lubot2<tsimonq2> wxl: Phab cleaned up.20:01
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, You are. Simon is too.20:06
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> All the FBs20:07
wxli'm done with facebook, @VikingRedwolf20:07
lubot2<tsimonq2> Same.20:08
wxl@tsimonq2: here's `env | grep XDG` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4X3hdbGxCT/20:09
wxluh20:09
wxlwell hold on20:09
wxlthat's using the openbox one20:10
wxlthe lxqt one is kind of unusable20:10
wxlthere's no panel or nothing20:10
lynorianwxl control alt t work?20:10
lynorianin lxqt?20:10
lynorianor does alt f2 with runner not work20:11
lynorianwhich you can then get a terminal up20:11
wxlgood call @lyn||orian 20:11
wxlum20:11
wxlyou get the idea XD20:11
wxlhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cgbyPXK2hq/20:11
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, And I'm done with many things I can't attend. I warned you.20:17
wxl@VikingRedwolf fine with me. could you by chance make an announcement that we're disabling the Facebook groups and then do so and I'll remove the website?20:18
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> There's no need for that. I can't take care of the website so far20:19
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> And the FB groups can run themselves20:19
wxli'm not sure that's true since some of them are closed groups20:19
wxland SOMEONE needs to admin them20:19
wxlinevitably, there's going to be issues20:20
lubot2<tsimonq2> wxl: I'll look later. Thanks, love ya, kthxbai20:20
wxl@VikingRedwolf am i missing something?20:28
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> No, that I know :)20:39
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> It's just I'm busy in the middle of a forest with almost no internet20:39
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Until I move to the civilisation (a normal city) my digital life is being affected (not that I complain)20:40
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, I'll check it out20:41
wxl@VikingRedwolf i'm happy to help out. i just don't want to touch facebook anymore :( maybe i should post on the list to see if someone wants to play admin?20:42
wxllynorian: do i seem to remember you doing some XFS stuff?20:53
lubot2Alien was added by: Alien20:59
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> Nice. I tend but to visit any social network anymore. They're useless to me. But I can keep an eye on the FB groups. Anyways I'll ensure you both are admins.21:08
wxl@tsimonq2: did you do something between yesterday and today that makes falkon work where otherwise the system was trying to run qupzilla? if so, good job21:17
lynorianwxl yes?22:01
lynorianI do run xfs on stuff is there anything you are wondering about22:02
wxllynorian: can you look into this? https://phab.lubuntu.me/T1322:05
wxlfeel free to assign it to yourself if so22:05
lyn||orian@vikingredwolf did you know that the first splash where it says try lubuntu still has the swallow and not the hummingbird?22:20
lyn||orianwxl xfs does not appear to be an option on calamares22:22
lyn||orianit does not fail it is that xfs is not an option in clamares in the GUI menu22:23
wxllyn||orian: i'm not surprised about that. we'll probably need to add all sorts of options (including encryption) to calamares *sigh*. what about bionic?22:23
lyn||orianwxl for LXDE I will test soon22:24
wxlthx22:24
lyn||orianwxl ugh the daily fails right now or is that what floccuant was on about earlier22:34
wxllyn||orian: yeah, that's it. if you want in, set openbox as the wm (/usr/bin/openbox) and then you'll probably want to ctrl-alt-t to a terminal and run everything from there.22:34
lyn||orianwxl I am getting it ot  install though on gpt disk22:35
lubot2<VikingRedwolf> @lyn||orian, Yup. Artwork must be fixed for the new theme. And logo.22:37
wxlhuh? i don't think that's a theme issue 22:37
lyn||orianno I got a failure to install 22:38
lyn||orianthat is seperate for the theme issue22:38
wxla failure to install is interesting. 22:38
lyn||orianbug 177169322:53
ubot93Bug 1771693 in calamares (Ubuntu) "clamares fails to install on a vm with gpt partition table and ext4" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177169322:53
wxlthat's uefi right lynorian ?22:59
lyn||orianum no I don't think so23:01
lyn||orianI can try again with uefi 23:02
lyn||orianwxl no it is bios23:02
lyn||orianwxl I have used gpt disks with bios installs before23:03
lyn||orianI thought that was mainly if you were dual booting for windows23:03
wxli just did gpt/ext4 on a vm23:04
wxlbios/gpt/ext4 to be clear23:04
lynorianstrange23:04
lynorianwxl did you manual partition the disk23:05
lynorianor entire disk?23:05
wxlyup23:05
lynorian??? now I am confused23:05
wxlcan't gpt unless you manual partition because the defaults are all mbr/ext423:05
lynorianyeah23:05
wxljust just fdisk'd to confirm it's gpt23:06
lynorianwxl bionic with xfs seems to be working23:06
wxlthank god something works! :)23:06
wxlwhat vm did you use lynorian ? maybe try virtualbox if not23:07
* lyn||orian was using virt-manager like always23:08
lyn||orianwait this might just be I did not test uefi vms enough23:09
wxlwell again i did not use uefi23:10
lyn||orianyeah23:10
lyn||orianit tried to install the signed version of grub23:10
wxl@tsimonq2: do we really want to support the openbox session??? :/ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/177169623:44
ubot93Ubottu bug 1771696 in Lubuntu Artwork "Openbox Apps menu causes error in obamenu" [Undecided, New]23:44
tsimonq2wxl: We kinda have to.23:45
wxldo we though?23:45
lubot2<tsimonq2> @wxl, There's no way to remove it without a kitten sacrifice.23:47
wxlharumph23:47
wxlit would seem we could just remove the session file in default settings23:49
lubot2<tsimonq2> The Openbox package provides that.23:49
lubot2<tsimonq2> We don't.23:49
wxlright but we could remove it....23:50
lubot2<tsimonq2> So therefore to do that, we kill kittens by making anyone who just wants Openbox unable to use it.23:50
lubot2<tsimonq2> If you wanna do that, your name goes on it, not mine. XD23:50
wxli'm talking in lubuntu-default-settings23:50
wxlnot in openbox23:50
lubot2<tsimonq2> No, we don't provide an Openbox session file in Lubuntu's settings.23:51
lubot2<tsimonq2> We can't remove it using our settings alone23:51
wxlbah23:51
lubot2<tsimonq2> Although...23:51
lubot2<tsimonq2> There is one REALLY HACKY way to do it.23:52
lubot2<tsimonq2> Split the session file into another binary package within openbox and make the default settings package conflict with it.23:52
lubot2<tsimonq2> Then you'd need to provide a goofy virtual package and then have openbox depend on its session binary with the virtual package as an alternative.23:53
lubot2<tsimonq2> Then, voila23:53
lubot2<tsimonq2> SUPER HACKY tho23:53
wxlfiiiiiiiiine23:53
lubot2<tsimonq2> Bbiab23:54

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