[00:21] @tsimonq2: i'd like to do that sooner than later, honestly. people are still filing bugs against it and it kind of sucks. [00:21] @tsimonq2: are we listing anywhere that people should file against lubuntu next? [00:21] No. [00:21] I can JFDI. [00:21] or i can [00:21] just need the ok and how we should do it [00:21] i think just turn off bugs [00:22] thoughts? [00:24] i'm gonna clean up the bugs [00:31] Yeah JFDI. [01:03] @tsimonq2: done, with a note in the description. might want to do something with https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-next, too. i don't have access [01:04] Roger that. [01:04] wxl: Any luck on the slideshow? [01:04] @tsimonq2: haven't left work yet so no :) [01:04] wxl: Ah, k. [01:04] but i made you some nice cards on the workboard [01:04] but you didn't make me one........... [01:04] wxl: What's with bug 1764399?!?!?! I really really REALLY hope that doesn't affect Bionic. [01:04] Bug 1764399 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "running apport in terminal doesn't work, as python3-launchpadlib is not installed by default in Lubuntu Bionic" [Critical, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764399 [01:05] Yeah yeah, I'll make you one now. :P [01:05] i found another bug while trying to figure out another one so i have that to deal with too [01:05] Alright. [01:05] Thanks man! [01:05] np [01:05] just so you know: can't use apport in cosmic or bionic right now :( [01:06] waaaaaaaaaaaaaaat [01:06] cosmic's calling for qupzilla and i'm trying to figure out where the problem is. i changed it in the default settings everywhere and it's still not launching falkon for whatever reason [01:06] bionic is missing the py3-launchpadlib [01:07] aaaaaaaaaaargh [01:07] wxl: Can you fight that fire? [01:07] ofc you probably need me to sponsor a lubuntu-meta update, aye? [01:07] prolly yes [01:08] Speaking of that, you have indirect push access to the seed. [01:08] So, JFDI. [01:08] oh [01:08] just to be clear, i add that to core? [01:08] wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T27 [01:08] mhhh [01:08] yeah [01:08] Sounds good to me. [01:08] thx [01:09] np [01:09] wxl: Adding it to the seed automatically pulls it in on all new image builds but a lubuntu-meta update needs to be pushed through, and fast, for existing users. [01:10] wxl: Give me an upload that you're *absolutely* sure about, then poke whoever is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Publishing [01:10] um wait there's core now XD [01:10] On *bionic* [01:10] lol [01:10] derpy derp derp derp [01:11] wxl: And as backup, I'd personally poke Adam and/or Steve [01:11] They both can push buttons. [01:11] But yeah. [01:11] Let's get it solved. :D [01:11] core core or core share? [01:12] omg this seed is going to make me pull my hair out [01:12] core share core core share core [01:12] XD [01:13] pushed [01:13] OMG YOU BROKE EVERYTHING AAAAHHH [01:13] OH NO WHAT [01:13] loljk XD [01:13] jesus, man. [01:13] XD [01:14] wxl: Nah but in all seriousness it looks good [01:14] so will the bug report get auto updated with the bug number mentioned? [01:14] It won't, unfortunately. [01:14] Wanna create a task for someone to write a script that does that? XD [01:15] not it :) [01:15] C'mon, just create the task. :) [01:15] Assign it to me, whatever [01:15] fiiiiiiiiiiiine [01:15] but you better fix lubuntu-meta [01:15] Yeah yeah [01:15] wait [01:15] You want my name on the Bionic lubuntu-meta upload? [01:16] i don't care [01:16] alright [01:16] JFDI'ing [01:16] i mean it SHOULD be me but XD [01:16] is that script only required for the seeds? [01:16] Nah, for all of our Git repos [01:16] There's a regex *somewhere* we can grab [01:17] If the commit message has matching text, trigger some launchpadlib happiness to DTRT. [01:17] OUR git repos or git repos in general? [01:17] For ours. [01:17] Although people can prolly use it for theirs too. [01:18] wouldn't it make more sense to have launchpad provide the fix? [01:18] i mean they do the same for bzr [01:18] right? or do i not understand something [01:18] I *think* they called "won't fix" on it [01:18] really?? [01:18] that seems silly [01:18] Something along the lines of "what if you push a whole Git repo?" [01:18] but they do it with bzr!!!! [01:19] Anyway, wxl, I call not it on updating bug 1764399 with a SRU template. [01:19] Bug 1764399 in lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "running apport in terminal doesn't work, as python3-launchpadlib is not installed by default in Lubuntu Bionic" [Critical, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1764399 [01:19] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [01:19] Ask Colin. [01:19] oh mannnnnnnnn [01:19] come on [01:19] hehe, love ya wxl [01:21] well you're going to have to help me with it so there [01:21] you might want to jfdi if you don't want constant pings from me :) [01:21] SRU bug template or LP thing? [01:21] SRU [01:21] i'm on the LP thing [01:22] ah [01:22] on it [01:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] lubuntu-lugito pushed 1 new commit to bionic: https://git.io/vpdqN [01:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/bionic 9f594e9 Walter Lapchynski: added python3-launchpadlib to bionic for apport; fixes LP: #1764399 [01:27] @tsimonq2: diffusion seems to be quite a bit behind [01:28] wxl: link? [01:28] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/repository/bionic/ [01:28] ah [01:28] * tsimonq2 adds to the bottom of the long list [01:28] that's from 2-13 :/ [01:28] YeAH [01:28] and there have been many commits since then [01:29] so something's broken [01:29] riiiight [01:29] well [01:29] OHHHHHHHHHHH [01:29] I know [01:29] sec [01:37] ok now you broke the world @tsimonq2 [01:37] oh? [01:37] Unhandled Exception ("DiffusionRefNotFoundException") [01:37] Ref "bionic" does not exist in this repository. [01:38] and in fact [01:38] No Default Branch [01:38] This repository is configured with default branch "bionic" but there is no branch with that name in this repository. [01:43] and now we're 404ing @tsimonq2 [01:43] you're nuking everything :) [01:43] SHUSH [01:43] :) [01:44] did you delete it? if so all refs to R3 are going to break [01:45] oh jeez now the other repos end up in 502 Bad Gateways O_O [01:45] WHAT ARE YOU DOING MAN [01:49] wxl: UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [01:49] don't blame me [01:49] I can't figure out WHAT I'm doing wrong. [01:49] that's weird because you set it all up! [01:49] did you try copying the config of the other ones/ [01:58] wxl: HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY OMG LOOK https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/ [01:58] Importing now. [01:58] I FIXED IT YAY [01:59] phew [01:59] document that in case it happens again [01:59] k now I need to prod the others [01:59] yeah [01:59] something's funky with the others [01:59] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/ [01:59] I might nuke and pave those repos... [01:59] That's what I had to do with the seed. [02:00] Besides, that needs reworking anyway. [02:00] sad cuz as i said the ref names get messed up [02:00] Got an example? [02:01] wxl: Now that Phab is saved, let's get that SRU out of the way. [02:03] it's called a callsign [02:03] so if we make sure that the callsigns are set by us, then it's all good [02:03] OK [02:03] if we go with the default (R#) then it can lead to problems if we re-add the repo [02:03] right [02:04] wxl: Does cosmic have python3-launchpadlib now too? [02:04] yep [02:05] BTW, your name is on this bionic upload [02:05] kthxbai [02:06] uhhh [02:06] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.94 => 0.94.1] (lubuntu) [02:06] unaapproved [02:07] Yeah [02:07] sooooooooooooo [02:07] Remember that chart I linked? [02:07] no [02:07] Go poke. [02:07] uhh [02:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Publishing [02:07] wxl: ^ [02:07] there's no bionic branch on the seed [02:08] uh what? [02:08] there's only cosmic and master it seems [02:08] HAH because I cloned the wrong thing [02:09] Fixing... [02:11] oh all the repos are gone now? [02:12] Yep, I nuked. [02:12] see how the callsign URI works? https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26#455 [02:12] oooooh [02:12] nice [02:13] so if you ever delete something, just revert the callsign back to the way it was [02:13] Right [02:13] using things that make sense ("SEED" not "R3") will probably help with mnemonics [02:13] wxl: I need to take Phab down for an hourish to do Artful -> Bionic. [02:13] Right. [02:13] that said, anything else left to do? [02:13] Not right now, just setting up additional repos. [02:23] Phab's now down, but this is expected. [02:53] Maintenance is done. [03:21] wxl: So, Raf hasn't been around today and Julien hasn't voiced an opinion. [03:21] I'd like to clean up lubuntu-artwork. [03:22] I'm thinking the right solution might be the same as what I did with the default settings, and that is, move old stuff to a different repo. [03:22] I'll go ahead with that unless you object. [03:22] i think structural changes are fine as long as there are no functional changes [03:22] OK. [03:22] that's my 2¢ [03:22] or 2€ for those two :) [03:23] I mean, it's not "functional" changes, but it does need some finagling with the binary packages and adding of Breaks/Replaces [03:24] well i'd still consider that structural [03:24] Yeah. [03:24] OK, cool. [03:24] those are changes required to support the structure [03:24] Right. [03:25] also can we get an SRU to get rid of the Qt session in Bionic? it's a freaking mess. [03:25] Throw me a task. [03:25] k [03:25] I THINK it's a metapackage issue. [03:25] i'll give you some fodder [03:25] Because in order to get the Qt session, you need a binary package in Bionic. [03:26] For Cosmic, I've reworked that. [03:26] wait huh. i think the Qt session is there in default Bionic. [03:27] yep [03:28] and it's broken because it calls /usr/bin/startlxqt which doesn't exist [03:29] And the reverse happened with "Lubuntu" in Cosmic. startlxde didn't exist. [03:29] well, lxsession [03:29] yeah that [03:36] @tsimonq2: i've got everything carved out of ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu. where do you want me to go from here? should i edit the changelog and push it and create a merge proposal? [03:37] wxl: Please. [03:37] dch -i, right? [03:37] dch -r [03:38] you sure about that? not a new version number? [03:38] Well, first you need to do just "dch" to create the changelog entry. XD [03:39] kk [03:39] ll [03:39] but i thought dch -i did both [03:39] * wxl shrugs [03:47] uh do i need to make the branch before pushing to it? [03:47] i didn't think i did [03:47] No, you don;t. [03:47] wth then [03:47] Share with the class [03:52] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.94.1] [03:56] wxl: Adam accepted lubuntu-meta. ^^^^ [03:56] wxl: Just needs verification, and we can argue for waiving the aging period. [03:57] nice [03:57] So, verify it. .) [03:57] i got an upload of the slideshow finally [03:57] *;) [03:57] \o/ [03:57] Link? [03:57] 1s [03:57] you don't want a merge proposal? [03:57] I want that [03:57] Yeah [03:57] That's what I'm asking for. :P [03:57] then shush it [03:58] https://code.launchpad.net/~wxl/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/delete-lubuntu/+merge/345637 [04:01] huh i thought we were unreleased until released [04:01] shall i re-push [04:01] ? [04:02] Well TECHNICALLY yeah. But I always finalize it so it's easy for them to upload. [04:02] Yeah, just make another commit. [04:03] i forgot do i need to make a new mp? [04:03] no [04:03] k [04:03] l [04:04] ok now let me know when lubuntu-meta is available and i'll test that for you [04:05] It is available. [04:13] did i tell you about mk-sbuild and development releases? [04:15] Let me guess: one of debootstrap or distro-info-data wasn't updated. [04:15] wxl: amirite? [04:15] if not `ll /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts | grep gutsy` [04:16] tsimonq2: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap/1.0.97ubuntu1 [04:17] Unit193: He's running Bionic. [04:17] Unit193: I was thinking that perhaps the SRU for that didn't go through yet. [04:17] And, it didn't... [04:17] sigh [04:17] Clearly not. [04:19] i don't think you're right about the cosmic seed, tsimonq2 [04:19] Oh? [04:19] i think it works fine (py3-lplib) [04:19] and nothing good is showing up in proposed...... [04:20] I'm about to fire off that lubuntu-artwork update. [04:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gg4NXGpgW4 [04:21] that's what i got from proposed [04:21] Right, because lubuntu-default-settings isn't installable yet. [04:22] hm? [04:22] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#lubuntu-default-settings [04:22] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_output.txt [04:22] RTFM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration [04:22] :) [04:23] ok well let me know when i can test this thing then :/ [04:24] Soon. [04:24] get me all hot and bothered for nothing [04:24] Love ya wxl. ;) [04:24] uhhhhh huh [04:24] XD [04:33] wxl: Metapackage update running locally. [04:33] When it's done, I'll throw it at Cosmic. [04:44] uh how do i snag source for a package again? [04:44] nevermind [04:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] lubuntu-lugito pushed 1 new commit to cosmic: https://git.io/vpdCv [04:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/cosmic 3ac401e Simon Quigley: Adjust the seed for the Lubuntu-specific package rework. [07:07] That was long [07:07] Heheheheh [07:09] that's what happens when you're getting stuff done [09:41] @wxl, I'm one of the admins. Not the only one though. [19:16] wxl: k so with this default settings bug... [19:16] Someone needs to log in and see what the XDG variables are set to. [19:16] That can tell us exactly what's wrong almost immediately. [19:19] gimme a bit. i've got a long list right now [19:19] Same here. [19:56] @VikingRedwolf who else? [20:01] wxl: Phab cleaned up. [20:06] @wxl, You are. Simon is too. [20:07] All the FBs [20:07] i'm done with facebook, @VikingRedwolf [20:08] Same. [20:09] @tsimonq2: here's `env | grep XDG` https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4X3hdbGxCT/ [20:09] uh [20:09] well hold on [20:10] that's using the openbox one [20:10] the lxqt one is kind of unusable [20:10] there's no panel or nothing [20:10] wxl control alt t work? [20:10] in lxqt? [20:11] or does alt f2 with runner not work [20:11] which you can then get a terminal up [20:11] good call @lyn||orian [20:11] um [20:11] you get the idea XD [20:11] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cgbyPXK2hq/ [20:17] @wxl, And I'm done with many things I can't attend. I warned you. [20:18] @VikingRedwolf fine with me. could you by chance make an announcement that we're disabling the Facebook groups and then do so and I'll remove the website? [20:19] There's no need for that. I can't take care of the website so far [20:19] And the FB groups can run themselves [20:19] i'm not sure that's true since some of them are closed groups [20:19] and SOMEONE needs to admin them [20:20] inevitably, there's going to be issues [20:20] wxl: I'll look later. Thanks, love ya, kthxbai [20:28] @VikingRedwolf am i missing something? [20:39] No, that I know :) [20:39] It's just I'm busy in the middle of a forest with almost no internet [20:40] Until I move to the civilisation (a normal city) my digital life is being affected (not that I complain) [20:41] @wxl, I'll check it out [20:42] @VikingRedwolf i'm happy to help out. i just don't want to touch facebook anymore :( maybe i should post on the list to see if someone wants to play admin? [20:53] lynorian: do i seem to remember you doing some XFS stuff? [20:59] Alien was added by: Alien [21:08] Nice. I tend but to visit any social network anymore. They're useless to me. But I can keep an eye on the FB groups. Anyways I'll ensure you both are admins. [21:17] @tsimonq2: did you do something between yesterday and today that makes falkon work where otherwise the system was trying to run qupzilla? if so, good job [22:01] wxl yes? [22:02] I do run xfs on stuff is there anything you are wondering about [22:05] lynorian: can you look into this? https://phab.lubuntu.me/T13 [22:05] feel free to assign it to yourself if so [22:20] @vikingredwolf did you know that the first splash where it says try lubuntu still has the swallow and not the hummingbird? [22:22] wxl xfs does not appear to be an option on calamares [22:23] it does not fail it is that xfs is not an option in clamares in the GUI menu [22:23] lyn||orian: i'm not surprised about that. we'll probably need to add all sorts of options (including encryption) to calamares *sigh*. what about bionic? [22:24] wxl for LXDE I will test soon [22:24] thx [22:34] wxl ugh the daily fails right now or is that what floccuant was on about earlier [22:34] lyn||orian: yeah, that's it. if you want in, set openbox as the wm (/usr/bin/openbox) and then you'll probably want to ctrl-alt-t to a terminal and run everything from there. [22:35] wxl I am getting it ot install though on gpt disk [22:37] @lyn||orian, Yup. Artwork must be fixed for the new theme. And logo. [22:37] huh? i don't think that's a theme issue [22:38] no I got a failure to install [22:38] that is seperate for the theme issue [22:38] a failure to install is interesting. [22:53] bug 1771693 [22:53] Bug 1771693 in calamares (Ubuntu) "clamares fails to install on a vm with gpt partition table and ext4" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771693 [22:59] that's uefi right lynorian ? [23:01] um no I don't think so [23:02] I can try again with uefi [23:02] wxl no it is bios [23:03] wxl I have used gpt disks with bios installs before [23:03] I thought that was mainly if you were dual booting for windows [23:04] i just did gpt/ext4 on a vm [23:04] bios/gpt/ext4 to be clear [23:04] strange [23:05] wxl did you manual partition the disk [23:05] or entire disk? [23:05] yup [23:05] ??? now I am confused [23:05] can't gpt unless you manual partition because the defaults are all mbr/ext4 [23:05] yeah [23:06] just just fdisk'd to confirm it's gpt [23:06] wxl bionic with xfs seems to be working [23:06]