| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:12 |
|---|---|---|
| didrocks | good morning | 06:17 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:21 |
| didrocks | hey oSoMoN | 06:26 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN, didrocks, seb128 | 07:18 |
| seb128 | hey duflu | 07:23 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:23 |
| seb128 | duflu, how are things? thanks for the trello/work summary email! | 07:23 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, re seb128 | 07:24 |
| duflu | seb128, you're welcome I think. Just nervous about that information getting duplicated outside on Trello now. So some of it will soon be out of date | 07:24 |
| seb128 | duflu, I don't think we are duplicating anything? | 07:25 |
| duflu | seb128, only in email, if you count that | 07:25 |
| seb128 | duflu, the emails are just to make sure that everyone is aware of what they have to do and also have an estimate of how much work they think they have/how long each feature will take, the trello isn't good at helping us with that | 07:26 |
| seb128 | that helps me to see if team members could take on extra work or already have more than enough for the cycle | 07:27 |
| duflu | Yes, fair enough. I will stop short of suggesting Gantt charts :) | 07:27 |
| seb128 | haha | 07:28 |
| seb128 | planner is on the list of things to remove since it still uses gconf | 07:29 |
| seb128 | that's the only gantt tool I tried on debian/ubuntu :) | 07:29 |
| duflu | seb128, is the difference between pending and current some smoke tests to pass? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ | 07:35 |
| seb128 | duflu, yes | 07:36 |
| seb128 | I never remember where the log for those test is though :/ | 07:37 |
| didrocks | same | 07:37 |
| duflu | seb128, jibel would know... | 07:39 |
| duflu | ? | 07:39 |
| seb128 | yes | 07:39 |
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| jibel | duflu, logs are there https://platform-qa-jenkins.ubuntu.com/ but I didn't finish enabling smoke tests for cosmic yet | 07:43 |
| duflu | jibel, no worries. I will come back to it at a later date | 07:44 |
| willcooke | duflu, no koza yet - so I assume no BT meeting | 07:45 |
| duflu | willcooke, not sure. Once or twice he went straight into the meeting without logging into IRC. Although my only relevant comments are in the status report | 07:46 |
| willcooke | duflu, I have nothing at this point either. Want to try the bluez snap path again, and heber is lined up to look in to that some more | 07:47 |
| willcooke | until then, nothing from me | 07:47 |
| duflu | willcooke, also I will wait for cosmic smoke tests to pass before confusing the situation with a proposed update | 07:48 |
| duflu | The most vocal users in favor of 5.49 already have it via the PPA, and are happy | 07:48 |
| willcooke | +1 thx | 07:49 |
| duflu | willcooke, in other news upstream PulseAudio fixed BT audio skipping this week (after some years) | 07:49 |
| seb128 | I don't think we need to wait for the iso to be current to update bluez | 07:49 |
| duflu | Will backport that too | 07:49 |
| seb128 | but as you prefer | 07:49 |
| duflu | seb128, I prefer it to be usable before my dev machine uses it :) | 07:50 |
| seb128 | we also have no hurry to update, it's not like cosmic had lot of users and that they needed it | 07:50 |
| seb128 | right | 07:50 |
| duflu | seb128, I should have just said that I won't propose an update to cosmic until I have tested it on cosmic :) | 07:54 |
| seb128 | that makes sense :) | 07:54 |
| didrocks | bluetooth always on on startup while you disable it in the previous boot is a feature/bug? | 07:56 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, those gdm fixes, they seem a bit much for a SRU no? do you think there would be an easier way to fix the issue for bionic? | 07:56 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I would say it's a bug but I'm unsure | 07:57 |
| seb128 | or lack of feature to restore the status | 07:57 |
| didrocks | I would expect the previous enablement state to persist as well | 07:57 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hey, the pure fix is just two lines... Or one. It's in the 1st commit | 07:58 |
| Trevinho | I'll cherry pick them once landed | 07:58 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, good morning :) | 07:58 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, great, thanks! | 07:58 |
| didrocks | hey Trevinho | 07:58 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, how is the hackfest going? | 07:58 |
| Laney | yo | 08:02 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 08:02 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=638117#c36 sounds like it should work | 08:03 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 638117 in general "Remember off/on state between sessions" [Normal,Resolved: notgnome] | 08:04 |
| Laney | salut french | 08:04 |
| Laney | alright, it stopped being nice weather though | 08:04 |
| didrocks | would be great to see if someone else reproduce, to see if it's config related or not | 08:04 |
| didrocks | still unnice weather here | 08:04 |
| Laney | went out for the daily sawfly removal session and it was windy | 08:04 |
| willcooke | Laney, what are the flies eating? | 08:05 |
| Laney | the gooseberry and redcurrant bush leaves | 08:05 |
| Laney | https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=517 | 08:06 |
| Laney | these jerks | 08:06 |
| willcooke | so they strip the leaves and the plant dies? | 08:06 |
| willcooke | little buggers | 08:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8590 | 08:06 |
| ubot5-ng | systemd bug 8590 in systemd "Bluetooth state not respected between reboots (is on even if on previous boot I turned it off)" (comments: 2) [Needs-Reporter-Feedback ❓, Rfkill, Open] | 08:06 |
| ubot5 | bug 8470 in linux-source-2.6.15 (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #8590 Oops caused by ipw2200 driver" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8470 | 08:06 |
| Laney | I never let it get that far enough, but I guess so | 08:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: nice finding foo! :) | 08:06 |
| seb128 | :) | 08:06 |
| Laney | actually this year we caught the first lot quite early on so it's only been a few leaves | 08:06 |
| didrocks | ok, keeping the tab opened | 08:09 |
| didrocks | logged what happens in the journal when shutting down bluetooth | 08:09 |
| didrocks | tomorrow, at next boot, I'll file the rfkill info + anything I can find about bluetooth | 08:09 |
| seb128 | good, I'm going to try that as well/see if it's persistant on my machine, I let you know next time I reboot | 08:23 |
| didrocks | th! | 08:26 |
| didrocks | thx* | 08:26 |
| Laney | back in a bit, got some errands to do </seb128> | 08:49 |
| seb128 | :) | 08:51 |
| Trevinho | seb128: sorry I was walking to the venue... | 08:57 |
| Trevinho | seb128: pretty good, lots of things planned more than done, but we've good plans at least | 08:57 |
| seb128 | nice | 08:58 |
| seb128 | good improvements? | 08:58 |
| Trevinho | hopefully :), a good one which is almost done is the one about killing the g-s on gdm when logged in, so that it won't stay there for no reason | 09:02 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ah, is somebody working on that? | 09:04 |
| seb128 | that would be great | 09:04 |
| seb128 | they start catching up with unity :p | 09:04 |
| ads20000 | 'they' I mean, isn't this pretty much 'we' given Didier is a Board member ;) | 10:40 |
| duflu | Oops. Drank afternoon coffee and missed dinner. | 10:49 |
| duflu | Later all | 10:49 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: by any chance, have you ever tried to POST manually without ubuntu-report to the database? We have 4 records which are a little bit weird. distro is "ubuntu-mate" (and that doesn't exist, as it's the ID in os-release, which is ubuntu whenever flavor you are running), variant is hardcoded "desktop" for now, but it's set to "ubuntu", and version isn't the version id (like 18.04) but "desktop" | 11:38 |
| didrocks | they were ran in a mate session as well :) | 11:39 |
| didrocks | (+ another record with correct variant, but distro still manually set to ubuntu-mate) | 11:41 |
| andyrock | good morning! | 12:01 |
| didrocks | hey andyrock! | 12:02 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you? had a good flight? | 12:03 |
| andyrock | yeah long but all good | 12:03 |
| seb128 | where are you exactly? | 12:04 |
| andyrock | medellin | 12:16 |
| Trevinho | He follows his teacher 😂 | 12:23 |
| andyrock | jbicha, seb128: btw I'm preparing an MP for gnome-control-center 3-28 | 12:25 |
| andyrock | we need a modified (and simpler patch) | 12:25 |
| jbicha | cool, great | 12:25 |
| seb128 | andyrock, thanks | 12:33 |
| seb128 | andyrock, hope you enjoy south america :) | 12:34 |
| Wimpress | didrocks Almost certainly me (the human) dicking around with ubuntu-report but not interaction between Welcome and ubuntu-report | 12:38 |
| andyrock | jbicha: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/49/diffs | 12:40 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 49 in gnome-control-center "night-ligth-dialog: Avoid dereferencing invalid pointer" (comments: 0) [Opened] | 12:40 |
| andyrock | I'm also preparing a new to fix the random warnings | 12:40 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: ok, I think those were some direct curl usage, as in https://BASE_URL/distro/variante/version, you can only change BASE_URL from the tool | 12:40 |
| jbicha | andyrock: ok, I'll wait for that one then :) | 12:41 |
| andyrock | jbicha: and this one https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/merge_requests/50/diffs?commit_id=475548d0c9ea5814d8aabc11317466011146c767 | 12:51 |
| ubot5-ng | GNOME bug (Merge request) 50 in gnome-control-center "night-light-dialog: Ignore G_IO_ERROR_CANCELLED errors" (comments: 0) [Opened] | 12:51 |
| andyrock | the second MP includes both commits to avoid rebasing | 12:52 |
| andyrock | jbicha, seb128 also if you could take care of this: https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/gnome-shell/fix-1768786/+merge/345203 | 13:40 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|lunch | ||
| seb128 | andyrock, I don't know much about this patch but the commit message is confusing "Inhibit suspend if...screen lock on suspend is enabled " | 13:47 |
| seb128 | why would we inhibit suspend? | 13:47 |
| andyrock | to lock before | 13:47 |
| andyrock | once it's locked we unhibit it | 13:48 |
| andyrock | the problem is that if you disable automatic login we still want to inhibit the suspend before | 13:48 |
| andyrock | because in ubuntu the lock on suspend is managed by another gsettings key | 13:48 |
| seb128 | k, so "Inhibit suspend" is "Inhibit suspend until the screen is locked"? | 13:49 |
| seb128 | andyrock, ^ | 13:59 |
| seb128 | andyrock, jbicha, the fix makes sense to me, I'm a bit unsure why we have that patch though. Upstream is not locking the screen on suspend? that seems a bit weird ot me | 14:02 |
| seb128 | or is that about allowing to disable the locking on suspend? | 14:02 |
| jibel | FYI, automated smoke tests for cosmic are activated and first desktop image promoted to cosmic | 14:03 |
| seb128 | nice! | 14:03 |
| jibel | and upgrades from bionic too | 14:03 |
| seb128 | duflu left but maybe he noticed tomorrow :) | 14:03 |
| jibel | I'm sure he will | 14:03 |
| andyrock | seb128: guess we just need to replace or with and: "I"nhibit suspend if automatic screen lock is disabled and screen lock on suspend is enabled | 14:03 |
| andyrock | right now if automatic screen lock is disabled we don't inhibit the suspend | 14:04 |
| andyrock | we should if screen lock on suspend is enabled | 14:04 |
| seb128 | right | 14:04 |
| seb128 | I was just speaking about the wording of the changelog entry | 14:04 |
| seb128 | it's a bit confusing as it is atm | 14:04 |
| andyrock | seb128: so replacing or with and is fine for you? | 14:05 |
| andyrock | that's what I did in the first place and for some reason I changed it later | 14:06 |
| seb128 | andyrock, let me read it again :p | 14:07 |
| Laney | use more words | 14:07 |
| seb128 | andyrock, that patch doesn't inhibit suspend, it only does until the screen is locked no? | 14:07 |
| seb128 | I would stick to what I suggested | 14:08 |
| seb128 | "Inhibit suspend until the screen is locked" | 14:08 |
| seb128 | if that's what it does | 14:08 |
| seb128 | then you can add the context | 14:08 |
| seb128 | "Inhibit suspend until the screen is locked also in the case where <...> is used" | 14:08 |
| seb128 | or something around those lines | 14:08 |
| seb128 | popey, hey, can you approve https://community.ubuntu.com/t/canned-response-to-forwarding-files-bugs-upstream/5829/3? | 14:10 |
| andyrock | seb128: kk | 14:12 |
| seb128 | andyrock, thx | 14:12 |
| kenvandine | anyone know about oem-config-prepare? | 14:18 |
| kenvandine | Laney, ^^ maybe? | 14:18 |
| Laney | bit open ended :-) | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | it's blowing up because there is no oem user, wondering how that should be created | 14:19 |
| seb128 | the question to be more specific, is does anyone know what creates the oem user/session that is used on first boot after installation? | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/default.target → /lib/systemd/system/oem-config.target. | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | sudo: unknown user: oem | 14:19 |
| kenvandine | sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin | 14:19 |
| seb128 | the context is that custom microsoft image, which is not built using ubiquity | 14:19 |
| seb128 | the way it works in the ubiquity workflow is that it boots first into a temp oem user where the prepare icon on the desktop is clicked on after tweaking | 14:20 |
| seb128 | we want to do that in the image build automatically there | 14:20 |
| seb128 | should the build just adduser oem and start the prepare command then? | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | yeah, which prepare seems to be trying to sudo oem | 14:20 |
| seb128 | or is there more magic to set up things? | 14:20 |
| kenvandine | i was surprised there was nothing in livecd-rootfs and ubiquity related to the oem user | 14:21 |
| kenvandine | that i could find | 14:21 |
| Laney | I think ubiquity creates it in oem_config mode | 14:22 |
| Laney | it pilots that page of the installer | 14:22 |
| Laney | one second, let me find the right bit | 14:22 |
| Laney | https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/tree/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-usersetup.py#n219 | 14:24 |
| popey | seb128: done | 14:25 |
| seb128 | popey, thanks | 14:26 |
| kenvandine | Laney, thx | 14:27 |
| kenvandine | so i guess i just need to create the user myself | 14:27 |
| Laney | this thing is using the oem mode somehow? | 14:28 |
| Laney | I thought it was just supposed to boot to a preinstalled desktop | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | Laney, yeah, but we want oem-config to run | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | to setup the user, etc | 14:28 |
| kenvandine | i had it running g-i-s via gdm, which worked well | 14:29 |
| kenvandine | but then we didn't get ubuntu welcome | 14:29 |
| Laney | alright | 14:30 |
| kenvandine | Laney, so the oem user should be a regular user, probably uid 1000 right? | 14:31 |
| kenvandine | then oem-config changes properties on it? | 14:31 |
| Laney | don't think it should be 1000, that's the real user's uid | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | ok | 14:32 |
| Laney | look at ok_handler | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | i see it now | 14:33 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:33 |
| Laney | no problemo | 14:33 |
| === pstolowski|lunch is now known as pstolowski | ||
| jbicha | kenvandine: you could maybe hack g-i-s to still run the welcome wizard after logging in after completing new user mode | 14:45 |
| jbicha | it might be a little annoying for GNOME users but we don't really have GNOME users for the new user mode | 14:46 |
| jbicha | kenvandine: or — I forget if I mentioned it to you — but have you seen bug 1762287? | 14:47 |
| ubot5 | bug 1762287 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Offer Ubuntu customizations in new user mode too" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762287 | 14:47 |
| seb128 | LocutusOfBorg, hey, do you know how much libayatana-appindicator has been tested in other distros/desktops and where? and did they still use a different dbus namespace that libappindicator? if so how do things like unity or the gnome-shell extension handle the mix of client apps using one or the other? | 14:48 |
| jbicha | sunweaver: ^ :) | 14:48 |
| seb128 | jbicha, who is he? | 14:49 |
| Laney | The Debian maintainer | 14:50 |
| jbicha | upstream. He is perhaps the Debian version of flexion (maintainer for Debian MATE) | 14:50 |
| seb128 | k, thx | 14:51 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you know if webkit2gtk strings are being displayed in user facing UIs? seems like we don't have much translations for it/launchpad import didn't work in bionic (https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/webkit2gtk) | 14:52 |
| jbicha | seb128: yes there are user strings. A simple test case is in Settings > Online Accounts and click to add a new Google account. The right-click options aren't translated in French | 14:56 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok, i'm adding that one to my list then :) | 14:57 |
| seb128 | thx! | 14:57 |
| jbicha | no templates available for xenial? | 14:57 |
| seb128 | was that package source/name changed in between series? | 14:58 |
| seb128 | or between xenial and xenial-security? | 14:58 |
| jbicha | not really, but it only entered main in Feb 2016 | 15:08 |
| jbicha | seb128: um, maybe it's as simple as that we don't built it --with translations or --with gnome | 15:11 |
| jbicha | here's the proposed fix for cosmic: https://salsa.debian.org/webkit-team/webkit/merge_requests/1 | 15:20 |
| ubot5-ng | WebKIt bug (Merge request) 1 in webkit "Build with gnome-pkg-tools for Ubuntu language packs" (comments: 0) [Opened] | 15:20 |
| jbicha | ubot5-ng: why do you capitalize webkit like that? | 15:22 |
| ubot5 | jbicha: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 15:22 |
| ubot5-ng | jbicha: Error: "why" is not a valid command. | 15:22 |
| Laney | it's not the bot; the project/team/thing is capitalised in that way | 15:56 |
| jbicha | thanks :) | 16:02 |
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| jibel | tsimonq2, did you try todays lubuntu image? I get bug 1754174 with automated ubiquity tests of Ubuntu. | 16:27 |
| ubot5 | bug 1754174 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[Lubuntu] "Install Lubuntu" fails with several commands not found and permission denied" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754174 | 16:27 |
| tsimonq2 | jibel: That's because Lubuntu no longer uses Ubiquity. | 16:57 |
| tsimonq2 | We use Calamares now. | 16:58 |
| tsimonq2 | jibel: Unless... *please* don't tell me you were testing Bionic... | 16:58 |
| tsimonq2 | If that's present on Bionic, please sound alarms. | 16:59 |
| willcooke | night all | 17:21 |
| jibel | tsimonq2, it's with cosmic and only with automated tests, manually it works fine | 17:40 |
| LocutusOfBorg | seb128, it is used in Debian since a lot of times and nobody reported issues so far, but I don't know.. let me check, did anybody complain so far? it should be a dropin replacement | 18:28 |
| tsimonq2 | jibel: OK | 18:39 |
| oSoMoN | good night all | 18:40 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, how do I show the logout menu in g-s? | 22:38 |
| robert_ancell | I'm on a details page but not seeing any change | 22:39 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: make sure you're running the built plugin (it could try to still load the old snapd plugin) | 22:46 |
| andyrock | mmm it should appear like this: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NxC87T1b/image.png | 22:46 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: btw I fixed all your suggestions | 23:01 |
| andyrock | thx for the quick review | 23:01 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, np | 23:02 |
| robert_ancell | That screenshot says "Sing out" :) | 23:03 |
| andyrock | ops | 23:03 |
| andyrock | yeah | 23:03 |
| andyrock | I just noticed that too | 23:03 |
| andyrock | :D | 23:03 |
| robert_ancell | It should play some opera sound effect when you click on it | 23:03 |
| andyrock | ahaha | 23:04 |
| robert_ancell | I'm guessing the menu isn't showing because I haven't signed in? | 23:04 |
| andyrock | it should show | 23:04 |
| andyrock | but it should allow you to sign in | 23:04 |
| robert_ancell | oh, ok. Must be something else... | 23:05 |
| robert_ancell | ah, I stuffed up my git branch | 23:05 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, was there a discussion about why it only shows on the details page? | 23:07 |
| robert_ancell | because login can also affect searches etc | 23:07 |
| andyrock | nope but gnome-software can have more than one auth | 23:07 |
| andyrock | at least in this way we can handle it defining a default auth | 23:08 |
| robert_ancell | the default auth thing feels a bit odd - can't we just show all logged in accounts there (which will probably only be one in practice) | 23:09 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: that can be an option | 23:10 |
| andyrock | I'll look into that | 23:10 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, something like gs_plugin_get_auths () that returns a GPtrArray (priv->auth_array). | 23:12 |
| robert_ancell | Then you can iterate over that and show each one. | 23:12 |
| andyrock | how do we distinguish one auth from the other? | 23:13 |
| andyrock | e.g. doing like that we're going to have two auths now "snapd" and "ubuntuone" | 23:13 |
| andyrock | I understand that "ubuntuone" is going away at some point | 23:14 |
| andyrock | but for the moment it is still there | 23:14 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, you use gs_app_get_management_plugin which will return the Snap plugin. It only has one auth. | 23:15 |
| andyrock | nope | 23:15 |
| robert_ancell | The Ubuntu One plugin has the other one, and wont be visible. | 23:15 |
| andyrock | they're shared | 23:15 |
| andyrock | all the plugins share the same auth_array | 23:15 |
| robert_ancell | ah | 23:16 |
| sarnold | "sing out", well at least tha tmatches the optimism of the skype screenshot :0 | 23:16 |
| sarnold | :) | 23:16 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: it is this way because e.g. ubuntu-reviews use ubuntuone auth that comes from a different plugin | 23:17 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, would it be an issue to show both accounts in that menu? | 23:17 |
| robert_ancell | Because the U1 login could apply to the results (i.e. if we were using the Ubuntu review server for reviews). | 23:18 |
| andyrock | it would be odd to have something like that: | 23:18 |
| andyrock | Sign in... | 23:18 |
| andyrock | Sign Out | 23:18 |
| andyrock | ---- | 23:18 |
| andyrock | Sign in... | 23:18 |
| andyrock | Sign Out | 23:19 |
| andyrock | in the same popover | 23:19 |
| andyrock | we should at least agree on a way to distinguish the two | 23:19 |
| andyrock | like | 23:19 |
| andyrock | Snap Store | 23:19 |
| robert_ancell | "Sign into Snap Store" | 23:20 |
| robert_ancell | "Sign into Ubuntu One" | 23:20 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: and "Signed into SnapStore as <xxx@xxx.xxx>" | 23:21 |
| andyrock | ? | 23:21 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, I think what flagged this for me is gs_plugin_set_default_auth is adding public API to G-S, and Richard is probably going to scrutinize it. So a more generic solution is probably better. | 23:21 |
| andyrock | robert_ancell: kk that works for me | 23:21 |
| andyrock | my day is almost over | 23:22 |
| andyrock | so I'll likely update it tomorrow | 23:22 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, worst case we can just distro patch out U1 for us, and we'll drop U1 in the near future | 23:22 |
| robert_ancell | andyrock, sure, thanks! | 23:22 |
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