[00:02] <SlidingHorn> inb4 Rixter comes back in an hour complaining that Opera isn't installed after reboot
[00:15] <oerheks> wait, it does not stick ...
[00:15] <oerheks> SlidingHorn, we just blame nacc
[00:20] <nacc> :)
[01:17] <SlidingHorn> simonizer is one of the contributors in a linux users' discord server - can't remember which one
[01:17] <leftyfb> SPM?
[01:18] <leftyfb> https://github.com/simoniz0r/spm
[01:18] <leftyfb> oh, linux users
[01:18] <SlidingHorn> same guy though
[01:19] <leftyfb> yep
[01:19] <SlidingHorn> I actually left that discord a couple days ago by accident and couldn't find a link to get back :/
[01:21] <leftyfb> I tried discord, too millennial for me :)
[01:21] <SlidingHorn> I needed a discord server for my Twitch stream
[01:22] <oerheks> i see lots of bugreports about certificates..
[01:22] <daftykins> isn't that only once you get popular :>
[01:23] <SlidingHorn> well, define "popular"  lol - got to being an affiliat
[01:23] <daftykins> hrmm dunno, 100 viewers regularly?
[01:24] <SlidingHorn> that's pretty rare, honestly
[01:24]  * oerheks is populair by birth
[01:24] <daftykins> i know some minor folk with maybe 40+ regularly
[01:25] <SlidingHorn> I haven't been able to stream at all lately so my server's dropped in population quite a bit...was regularly around 50 folks online
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:07] <EriC^^> morning all
[05:10] <SlidingHorn> morning EriC^^
[05:57] <lordievader> Good morning
[05:58] <daftykins> \o
[05:59] <lordievader> Hey daftykins
[05:59] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:00] <daftykins> not too bad thanks :D all well with yourself?
[06:03] <SlidingHorn> interesting thing re: the Skype snap situation in main - In my software center (using 18.04 Studio) the version he ended up installing is what's available.  On the snapcraft.io website, the 8.20... version he originally installed is what's listed.
[06:03] <daftykins> which is newer? i can't follow along :>
[06:04] <SlidingHorn> the one in my software center is 8.22....
[06:04] <lordievader> Doing good here 😁
[06:05] <daftykins> i'm currently still amused by having taken a pair of scissors to my previously long hair, just earlier
[06:05] <lordievader> Sometimes it is good to cut it short.
[06:05] <ducasse> good morning
[06:06] <daftykins> \o
[06:06] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[06:06] <lordievader> How are you?
[06:10] <ducasse> hi daftykins, lordievader - all well here, thanks. you too, i hope?
[06:11] <SlidingHorn> mornin ducasse
[06:11] <ducasse> i shaved my hair off yesterday, daftykins - ready for summer :)
[06:11] <daftykins> o rly
[06:11] <ducasse> hi SlidingHorn - all well?
[06:11] <daftykins> how much did you have?
[06:11] <daftykins> yip yip all well here, debating what to do for breakfast
[06:12] <SlidingHorn> so far, so good
[06:12] <lordievader> ducasse: Yes, doing good :)
[06:13] <ducasse> daftykins: a few cm, i shave it regularly
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse lordievader
[06:57] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[06:57] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> fine here received an email about gpdr from my banker lordievader
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> new privacy law
[06:58] <lordievader> Yeah, you almost get a daily gpdr email these days.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: you understand whats it about in short?
[06:58] <ducasse> morning lotuspsychje
[06:59] <ducasse> how are you?
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[07:00] <lordievader> In short: more control to the user about his data. Sending out privacy data needs to have a valid cause.
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> i see
[07:00] <lordievader> Oh, and lots of stuff is now personal data. If you are able to relate a piece of data back to a person, it is personal data.
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> jesus
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: so i have a blogger with customers database for newsletter, how would this influence me?
[07:01] <lordievader> As a company you need to document what you are storing and why you are storing it.
[07:02] <lordievader> If you can defend why you store something (it is necesary to save an email address for a newsletter, for example) it is okay.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> if not= big fines
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: so the backdoor out of this, hiding your customers data from online?
[07:03] <lordievader> Don't think that will happen very soon. This new law has been in effect for quite some time... just now they are starting to actually enforce the rules.
[07:04] <lordievader> Hiding? The whole point of gpdr is to make this sort of thing more transparent.
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> right
[07:06] <daftykins> nah GDPR comes into force in a few days
[07:08] <lordievader> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation#Timeline
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> yeah saw the wiki lordievader but seems real complicated
[07:10] <daftykins> ah i should've qualified that with my home being outside of the EU so choosing to do it later, but at the same time as England
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: tnx for the explain
[07:13] <daftykins> pretty horrifying it took 6 years xD
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> i dont like anything european
[07:14] <lordievader> No problem. However, do be sure to read the more official documents if you need a real answer. This might be  half my own interpretation 😋m
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> this always fits in a big brother plan
[07:14] <EriC^> heh
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> they got us first with the euro currency
[07:16] <daftykins> €_€
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> everything 4 times more expensive
[10:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:16] <SlidingHorn> mornin BluesKaj
[10:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning SlidingHorn
[10:26] <BluesKaj> was busy doing some banking for a few mins
[10:29] <SlidingHorn> no worries
[10:58] <JimBuntu> morning BluesKaj
[10:59] <BluesKaj> up early as usual
[11:01] <BluesKaj> if I sleep past 6AM it's a bonus :-)
[11:03] <JimBuntu> I woke up at 4, I normally get up by 5 so I didn't see any point in going back to sleep.
[11:04] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:04] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu, what do you mean by the  <TAB> in that line?
[12:04] <JimBuntu> press the TAB key
[12:05] <JimBuntu> That's why I added the next line with what it would look like, just in-case.
[12:09] <BluesKaj> ok thanks
[12:57] <BluesKaj> lordievader, funny how some users don't think of a reboot ...if it was windows they probly would since they're so used to having to do so
[12:58] <lordievader> Usually  a reboot ain't necesary in Linux. That said, some computers are strange with their usb ports. Nothing connected at boot means they won't use it or something.... No idea what they are thinking.
[13:10] <leftyfb> lordievader: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/BbRw5ty5ft/
[13:11] <lordievader> leftyfb: Luckily I don't often see those kind of machines 😉
[14:08] <SlidingHorn> pragmaticenigma: really? (about the clock thing)  I found an answer on StackExchange (it *was* for Fedora though..but under gnome)
[14:10] <pragmaticenigma> SlidingHorn: I've seen that same support article, last person I recommended it to, it had no effect on their install.
[14:11] <SlidingHorn> pragmaticenigma: guess it worked for them :/
[14:12] <pragmaticenigma> yep... weird
[14:20] <pragmaticenigma> I'll update my notes :-)
[14:39] <leftyfb> kiriuha has been joining and posting garbage for a while now
[14:39] <leftyfb> since the beginning of the month
[14:41] <leftyfb> also, what's this client? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8bXXpyCRMx/
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> what client leftyfb ... I see what appears to be a list of handles.. not user agents
[14:43] <leftyfb> look at the idents and a good portion of the nick names
[14:43] <leftyfb> ~u0_XXX
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> A reason that the #ubuntu channel should really start requiring nick registration is what I think it means
[14:44] <leftyfb> actually, ~u0_aXXX
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> possibly their all masked?
[14:44] <pragmaticenigma> *they're
[14:45] <leftyfb> that would cut down on the garbage, but it would also exclude a lot people legitimately looking for help
[14:45] <leftyfb> if they're masked, they're all masked the same way, I'm assuming the same client
[14:46] <pragmaticenigma> I guess I don't know enough about IRC to make an educated guess. If that's from the main room... I would assume one of the freenode servers is doing something odd
[14:47] <leftyfb> nope
[14:47] <leftyfb> Freenode doesn't do tha
[14:47] <leftyfb> that*
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> magic and voodoo then
[14:50] <leftyfb> this is the only thing anyone with the nick u0_a* has ever said https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DTQfxM7sSD/
[14:50] <leftyfb> it's all garbage
[14:50] <pragmaticenigma> what channel are you in that you see that?
[14:51] <pragmaticenigma> i don't see any of those handles
[14:51] <leftyfb> it's all #ubuntu
[14:51] <leftyfb> look at the timestamps
[14:52] <leftyfb> they're all sinch the beginning of the year
[14:52] <leftyfb> since*
[14:52] <pragmaticenigma> ah... starting to piece things together... I'm scanning the current list up and down and not seeing any of those
[14:53] <pragmaticenigma> now it makes sense when I have a date to associate with the capture
[14:57] <leftyfb> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/QzCzNBHN83/
[14:57] <leftyfb> that's every nick that has had u0_a in it's nick/ident and everything they've ever said
[14:57] <leftyfb> looks like they might all be from Russia
[14:58] <leftyfb> ok, maybe not just Russia
[14:58] <leftyfb> but certainly mostly have issues with English
[15:05] <SlidingHorn> leftyfb: there's another one... :/
[15:05] <leftyfb> :)
[15:06] <JimBuntu> great, now they are learning new commands. I was tempted to !ru > them
[15:07] <leftyfb> sorry
[15:07] <SlidingHorn> they're freakin evolving  D:
[15:07] <JimBuntu> pretty slowly though.
[15:08] <SlidingHorn> I mean...they're bots right?  What's their purpose?
[15:08] <leftyfb> they're not bots
[15:09] <SlidingHorn> hm...I don't see the "fun" in just posting random gibberish in a chat several times a day
[15:11] <JimBuntu> You are SOOOO boring SlidingHorn, such a buzzkill, lol
[15:11] <JimBuntu> I don't get it either, some people actually have fun causing trouble. I guess that it makes them feel powerful or important or something
[15:12] <SlidingHorn> well, I mean...I get trolling, just not that brand, I guess...
[15:13] <leftyfb> it's just dumb kids with nothing better to do
[15:24] <SlidingHorn> oh wow...did I miss the flood?  Drone got that one on its own
[15:25] <BluesKaj> we had a power interruption so I missed all the fun :/
[15:39] <BluesKaj> the next door neighbour's overgrown cedar hedge grew inti the electrical power distribution box and shorted out the lines connected to it ...think she'll be receiving a hefty bill from the local utility :-)
[15:54]  * SlidingHorn is starting to think IntelCore is bugzie's kin
[15:57] <leftyfb> SlidingHorn: my eye twitched for a moment as well. We'll see
[15:58] <leftyfb> SlidingHorn: I don't think so .. IntelCore has been around for over a year
[15:58] <leftyfb> same ip since January
[16:01] <SlidingHorn> how do you get that so easily?
[16:01] <leftyfb> funny, I count 204 questions from IntelCore since exactly 1 year and 2 days ago
[18:33]  * tomreyn just learnt that there is no mirroring infrsatructure for cdimage.ubuntu.com. unfortunately that's where the 'proper' server images are hosted. so better have a local copy in case this (canonical CDN?) goes down.
[19:08] <SlidingHorn> just making sure I don't give the wrong advice here - had the guy nomodeset, install nvidia drivers, and when he rebooted, it still went to black screen & nouveau still loaded.  At this point do I have him blacklist noveau in the grub config?
[19:09] <SlidingHorn> ah Bashing-om to the rescue, thanks :)
[19:13] <Bashing-om> SlidingHorn: Ahw ,, just a tad bit of experience with nvidia drivers :P
[19:45] <SlidingHorn> sorry...inxi is my new favorite tool :P
[19:45] <leftyfb> I keep forgetting it's name :)
[19:51] <Bashing-om> SlidingHorn: By the same author .. check out the revamped pinxi : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2387337 .
[19:52] <leftyfb> pinxi isn't as useful if it's not available in the official repos.
[19:53] <SlidingHorn> oooo...if we can get that released and packaged :P
[19:55] <Bashing-om> SlidingHorn: Yeah, getting pinxi to replace inxi is the goal .
[19:57] <leftyfb> pitty it's not going to be written in bash anymore
[19:57] <leftyfb> that was the impressive part for me
[19:58] <leftyfb> and I always planned to pull it apart to use some of it's data gathering in other scripts
[19:58] <leftyfb> looks like I need to keep a copy of it around for future refernce
[20:01] <Bashing-om> Yeah, been my experience, if ya do not save it - ya loose it ( now just where did I save it at ??)
[20:36] <oerheks> Bashing-om, all his symptoms looks like his machine has reached EOL... i had no issues yesterday installing 1804
[20:36] <oerheks> tomorrow my desktop :-P
[20:39] <Bashing-om> oerheks: well, like this .. I installed 18.04's beta ubuntu and no issues, played with wayland - impressive . Installed xubuntu-core for testing and never went back to 16.04 . the core install is now my work horse .
[21:03] <SlidingHorn> leftyfb: is there somewhere you pulled all that info from other than the log site?  Did you use some sort of script or something?