[13:02] <jrwren> "LXD 3.1 will only be made available as a snap package. We will not be uploading it as a deb to Ubuntu 18.10 or through backports to previous releases."
[13:03] <jrwren> Well, then does it really exist then?  :)
[13:06] <cmaloney> jrwren: They still have some backports
[13:07] <cmaloney> but yeah,if they wanted to kill LXD this would be the way to do it
[13:07] <cmaloney> but w/e.
[13:46] <jrwren> yeah, its dead. it is snap only from this point forward.
[13:47] <jrwren> I'm sure it will continue because some canonical customer is using it, but its not a growth product.
[13:47] <rick_h_> I don't know, it has a large user base outside of ubuntu
[13:47] <jrwren> Its true. I only mean that it is dead to me. :)
[13:48] <jrwren> People will do ANYTHING to get their spotify on the desktop.
[13:48] <rick_h_> lol
[13:48] <rick_h_> I meant lxd vs snaps
[13:48] <rick_h_> lxd is used outside of ubuntu
[13:48] <jrwren> oh! duh.
[13:48] <jrwren> lol. I should go back to bed :)
[13:48] <rick_h_> snaps, yea I guess that's getting some outside ubuntu traction
[13:49] <jrwren> I can only barely imagine LXD being the right solution for things. I think it is because it is a little niche and I have poor imagination.
[13:50] <jrwren> I'm just bitter becasue I really like LXD but I really dislike snap. I feel like they are taking it away from me.
[13:50] <rick_h_> actually with the gpu pass through and such it's big in HPC atm
[13:51] <rick_h_> we've got several folks poking at it as a lot faster than VMs for scale but more useful than a docker container
[13:51] <jrwren> Makes sense.
[14:21] <brousch> We use LXC, but not LXD
[14:32] <cmaloney> LXD is really nice. I like LXD a lot
[14:32] <cmaloney> It's the quickest way for me to spin up a "what does this do" machine
[14:32] <cmaloney> but if LXC / LXD weren't available I'd probably switch to Vagrant
[14:35] <cmaloney> Thing is by making it snaps only they've essentially told the world "you have to be all-in to the Ubuntu way of doing things"
[14:35] <cmaloney> and that hasn't worked well in the past
[14:36] <cmaloney> It might have worked had Docker not completely changed how folks think about containers
[14:36] <cmaloney> And by changed I mean become synonymous with
[17:46] <jrwren> https://www.gnu.org/software/guix/blog/2018/tarballs-the-ultimate-container-image-format/ lol
[17:55] <cmaloney> jrwren: Search your feelings. You know it to be true
[17:58] <jrwren> its pretty close to true.