[00:00] <oerheks> :-)
[00:01] <Rixter> OK....it's installing some codecs which I'm guessing are part of the "restricted" extras?
[00:01] <Rixter> OK, has and is installing opera-stable
[00:07] <Rixter> nacc: OK, that did it Opera installed!!   TNX
[00:07] <nacc> Rixter: yw
[00:09] <Rixter> nacc:  I should change the command from apt-get install opera to apt-get install opera-stable...correct?  Pretty simple...and easy to make mistake
[00:11] <nacc> Rixter: well, third party package, unclear what is supported where (if at all) -- you'd need to ask opera
[00:11] <nacc> Rixter: but yes the simplest fix was just to use opera-stable instead of opera
[00:11] <Rixter> TNX again!!
[00:16] <Davidian1024> hey there
[00:16] <Davidian1024> anyone know how to install additional drivers from the command line?
[00:17] <Davidian1024> i just upgraded to ubuntu 18.04 and it looks like the radeon driver keeps crashing when X tries to start
[00:17] <oerheks> sudo ubuntu-drivers list , or directly sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[00:17] <oerheks> ehm, radeon, is in the kernel now
[00:18] <Davidian1024> @oerheks: ok thanks, i'll give those a shot
[00:18] <oerheks> that would not install AMD drivers...
[00:19] <Davidian1024> that's ok
[00:19] <Davidian1024> as long as i can get the gui going for now
[00:19] <oerheks> check out yourself, to show what driver in use >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[00:21] <Bashing-om> Davidian1024: As oerheks says, in the kernel now, there are no "additional drivers" - depending on the AMD card  the proprietary overlay onto the amd-gpu driver could be available.
[00:24] <Davidian1024> right now it's showing the Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 [8086:191b] (rev 06) in use
[00:24] <Davidian1024> this laptop seems to have that along with an amd gpu in it
[00:26] <oerheks> i think you need to enable radeon with "radeon.modeset=1" in grub bootloader..
[00:27] <oerheks> or check your bios to set radeon as primairy GPU
[00:27] <Davidian1024> ok, gonna reboot and check the bios first.
[00:32] <oerheks> wb
[00:36] <Davidian1024> :(
[00:36] <musk_ox> New to 18.04, and the Ctrl+A shortcut is frustrating me. Can't see where it's defined in Settings->Keyboard. And I feel like I have to change it, because it conflicts with bash shortcuts
[00:39] <oerheks> Ctrl+A is a basic select  command, why would that bother you?
[00:46] <musk_ox> oerheks: yeah it doesn't make sense there must be something wrong with my configuration. window manager should not be showing/hiding windows with Ctrl+A
[00:58] <Unicorn_Princess> what's the simplest way to install ubuntu 18.04, with encryption, and dual-booting windows 7? all the guides I was able to find have a whole bunch of tricky steps
[00:58] <Unicorn_Princess> I was hoping I could maybe install fedora 28 first - it has no trouble setting up full disk encryption alongside a win7 boot
[00:59] <Unicorn_Princess> and then install ubuntu 18.04 over the fedora partition
[01:01] <Unicorn_Princess> (reason I'm not just sticking with fedora is it only boots successfully about 30% of the time, other times it just reboots)
[01:01] <arens> I just created and uploaded something to a PPA. About how long does it take to show up in launchpad?
[01:01] <crimson_king> Unicorn_Princess: usually there's no trick to it. Simply boot the installer, configure it as you want, select encryption/LVM, type password and go on
[01:01] <oerheks> Unicorn_Princess, all ubuntu versions support enryption, LVM
[01:02] <crimson_king> Unicorn_Princess: The installer will recognize your Windows 7 install and ask to install Ubuntu alongside it
[01:02] <Unicorn_Princess> crimson_king: there's no option for dual-boot -and- encryption though. if I want encryption, the only option offered by the installer is to overwrite the windows partition
[01:02] <oerheks> arens, url?
[01:02] <Unicorn_Princess> yes, if I choose the 'install alongside win7' option, it won't let me choose encryption as well
[01:02] <oerheks> Unicorn_Princess, there is.. unless windows use bitlocker, that takes whole drive
[01:03] <Unicorn_Princess> nah, my win7 is unencrypted
[01:03] <oerheks> encryption question comes after that
[01:03] <Unicorn_Princess> oh! I should mention, I have two drives, one for win7, other for linux.
[01:03] <crimson_king> I don't know that one, and I can't test it here
[01:03] <Unicorn_Princess> hm
[01:04] <Unicorn_Princess> i'll try reinstalling again, hopefully it'll be as simple as oerheks promises :)
[01:04] <arens> oerheks: I think its because my changelog was messed up, I'll give it to you in a min if it doesn't work this time :-p
[01:07] <oerheks> Unicorn_Princess, choose 'use LVM..."  >> https://websiteforstudents.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/ubuntu_1804_installation_3.png
[01:09] <jeffguorg> hi, there~
[01:09] <jeffguorg> i'm using bionic but where is opnejdk 9/10
[01:09] <jeffguorg> apt search only show me openjdk 8/11
[01:10] <simonizor> Just wanted to say screw whoever decided GNOME was a good default for Ubuntu.  So many people having problems with their systems not running smoothly anymore.  MATE would have been a much more sane choice.  That is all.
[01:10] <oerheks> jeffguorg, indeed, 8 or 11, i would suggest use 11
[01:10] <oerheks> openjdk-11-jdk
[01:10] <oerheks> simonizor, there is more choise than that: xubuntu, lubuntu ..
[01:11] <oerheks> !flavors
[01:11] <simonizor> Sure, but everyone goes for stock Ubuntu first and then complains about how badly it runs
[01:11] <simonizor> Not good for Ubuntu's image
[01:11] <jeffguorg> it's ok to move to Gnome. at least you still have a choice to move to plasma or other DE
[01:12] <simonizor> Kubuntu LUL
[01:12] <simonizor> What a mess of a KDE install that is
[01:12] <simonizor> Good thing KDE neon exists
[01:12] <oerheks> old hardware .. consider researching what to use..
[01:12] <leftyfb> !ot | simonizor
[01:14] <simonizor> Yeah, I'm aware.  Just wanted to stop by and say I'm tired of having users come to our support channel on Discord and complain about how badly Ubuntu runs.  Bad choices were made.  Hopefully better ones are made in the future.
[01:14] <tgm4883> simonizor: what channel is that?
[01:14] <jeffguorg> oerheks, sure. i just find openjdk 9 and 10 are missing in the apt repos and get curious where they are
[01:16] <oerheks> openJDK 9 has gone EOL, http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk9-downloads-3848520.html
[01:16] <jeffguorg> ooops
[01:16] <oerheks> and this post is talking about 10 or 11 in bionic.. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-February/004275.html
[01:17] <jeffguorg> well, the problem i met is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/1739631
[01:17] <oerheks> maybe that is why, it has reached EOL..
[01:18] <jeffguorg> i was trying to reproducing the issue, because a lot of our customers met this problem. and this bug also affect openjdk 11
[01:20] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/1771363
[01:21] <oerheks> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ca-certificates-java/+bug/1770553
[01:21] <jeffguorg> good to know openjdk 9 and 10 are removed from repo. don't need to worry about it
[01:22] <jeffguorg> yes, exactly the same problem
[01:23] <oerheks> jeffguorg, add yourself to that bugreport, it could help
[01:23] <jeffguorg> :) done
[01:24] <oerheks> Thank you.
[01:28] <guiverc> thank you jeffguorg (it adds 'heat' to the report)
[01:28] <jeffguorg> and about previous discussion about desktop environment, i think it's ok to move to gnome. just choose one that fit your need, no matter it's gnome3, mate, budgie, kde, i3wm or even without one
[01:28] <jeffguorg> :) my pleasure
[01:42] <Vashy> is it possible to tell when an nvidia driver was last updated?
[01:43] <Vashy> I don't see anything immediately obvious in the Nvidia X Server Settings application
[01:43] <operator-error> As a 16.04 user, and given the things I've read here in the last week or so, I'm glad I "have" to wait until 26 July to upgrade to 18.04.
[01:44] <Utkarsh> hi
[01:44] <Vashy> hi
[01:44] <Utkarsh> It's my first time here, was just testing out freenode
[01:45] <SlidingHorn> Utkarsh: that's off topic here - try ##chat
[01:45] <SlidingHorn> Vashy: try looking at /var/log/apt/history.log
[01:46] <Vashy> nothing in there
[01:47] <Vashy> tail -500  /var/log/apt/history.log | grep -i nvidia
[01:47] <Vashy> that returned nothing
[01:47] <Vashy> and there's only 38 lines in the file
[01:47] <Vashy> so the tail didn't miss anything
[01:48] <Vashy> although that's cool I didn't know that log existed =)
[01:48] <SlidingHorn> Vashy: there are probably older logs in that dir as well
[01:48] <Vashy> looking now
[01:54] <cclloyd> Does anyone know the default window manager/desktop managet for 18.04?  Specifically the lines I would need to put in `xstartup` for a VNC server?  I'm just getting grey screen rn.
[01:55] <leftyfb> cclloyd: you should try x11vnc for your vnc server
[01:55] <SlidingHorn> cclloyd: Gnome
[01:55] <leftyfb> sudo x11vnc -xkb -noxrecord -noxfixes -noxdamage -display :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -usepw
[01:55] <leftyfb> I think x11vnc will do what you want without creating custom configs
[01:56] <cclloyd> I should also note I did minimal installation of ubuntu desktop
[01:58] <cclloyd> That x11 command failed.  Output:  https://pastebin.com/HURUzykL
[01:59] <leftyfb> cclloyd: you need to make sure you copy it all on one line
[01:59] <leftyfb> cclloyd: your paste is wrapped
[02:04] <cclloyd> What do you mean copy on one line?  The command?  Cause that command was all on one line.
[02:05] <leftyfb> ah
[02:05] <leftyfb> you're running this over ssh
[02:05] <leftyfb> cclloyd: DISPLAY=:0 ; sudo x11vnc -xkb -noxrecord -noxfixes -noxdamage -display :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -usepw
[02:06]  * RtMF points people at xpra and/or x2go if they want something a bit more flexible than x11vnc
[02:07] <cclloyd> Does it matter that I don't have any display attached currently?
[02:07] <leftyfb> cclloyd: shouldn't
[02:07] <cclloyd> Cause it's still just giving me the error: x11vnc was unable to open the X DISPLAY: ":0", it cannot continue.
[02:08] <leftyfb> echo DISPLAY
[02:08] <leftyfb> echo $DISPLAY
[02:08] <leftyfb> what does that give you?
[02:08] <leftyfb> are you sure there's an X server running?
[02:08] <cclloyd> :0
[02:08] <cclloyd> Not sure.  How can I check.
[02:09] <leftyfb> cclloyd: did you install/start a Desktop Environment of some sort?
[02:09] <leftyfb> maybe it's wayland and not Xorg
[02:09] <cclloyd> I installed Ubuntu Desktop with a monitor attached.  Then unplugged it and rebooted.
[02:09] <cclloyd> I assumed the desktop manager would be run at startup no matter what.
[02:10] <cclloyd> I also read that 18.04 uses xorg instead of wayland as default.
[02:27] <J3kyl> what IRC client you guys using on Ubuntu?
[02:27] <J3kyl> I tried Pidgin and Kon something can’t remember right now and neither could connect
[02:28] <J3kyl> so far only been able to connect on my iOS device
[02:29] <leftyfb> J3kyl: do you have a support question?
[02:31] <J3kyl> which IRC client works on Ubuntu?
[02:31] <SlidingHorn> !irc | J3kyl
[02:31] <pavlos> I think hexchat is installed
[02:32] <J3kyl> thanks for the link ubottu and I’ll search for hexchat pavlos
[02:32] <J3kyl> I’m a noob so the more info I get the better
[02:33] <leftyfb> J3kyl: all the ones available in the official repositories work
[02:33] <Bashing-om> J3kyl: If you are so terminal minded then : http://www.andrews-corner.org/ubuntu/irssi.html .
[02:34] <J3kyl> It might just be the way I’m setting them up. On 14.04 I used Pidgin and I know it worked but this time for the life of me it won’t connect
[02:34] <J3kyl> OK this is great info I’ll try to get it going tomorrow
[02:34] <J3kyl> Thanks
[02:36] <leftyfb> pidgin is a horrible IRC client
[02:36] <leftyfb> pretty sure it's a dying project anyway
[02:42] <cclloyd> Ok I got the VNC working (just tried reinstalling a fake display driver) and it works.  I'm logged in. But I still have 2 issues.
[02:42] <cclloyd> 1.  The max resolution is 768p, which isn't even the resolution I set for the fake display
[02:42] <cclloyd> 2.  It has a black X cursor instead of the pointer.
[02:44] <oerheks> cclloyd, what vnc server exactly?
[02:44] <cclloyd> The command I'm using to run:  DISPLAY=:0 ; x11vnc -xkb -noxrecord -noxfixes -noxdamage -display :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -usepw -pointer_mode 1
[02:44] <oerheks> one could use vncserver -geometry 1920x1080 or something like that
[02:44] <cclloyd> (I didn't originally have the -pointer_mode, I just tried that to get it to work. but it didn't)
[02:45] <leftyfb> cclloyd: are you sure you're running a desktop environment on DISPLAY 0?
[02:45] <leftyfb> oerheks: he wants to connect to the existing DE. vncserver by itself just creates and empty X server
[02:46] <cclloyd> Not 100% sure I'm using display 0.  When connecting I'm using the address 192.168.1.x:1, as :0 didn't connect at all.
[02:47] <cclloyd> And adding -geometry 1920x1080 makes the window on my client larger, but just enlarges the 768p picture.
[02:49] <leftyfb> cclloyd: plug in a monitor and keyboard, login and type: echo $DISPLAY
[02:49] <cclloyd> No option to plug in a monitor right now.
[02:49] <cclloyd> Not an option*
[03:12] <ikkuranus> I thought it wasn't possible to have 2 files named the same thing inside a single directory
[03:17] <ikkuranus> oh nvm one character is caps
[03:23] <donjuan> anybody succes install ubuntu touch ?
[03:25] <Bashing-om> !touch | donjuan
[03:32] <jeffguorg> ubottu is an irc bot? looks cool
[03:32] <john> OK
[03:32] <john> so I think I know what is happening
[03:32] <jeffguorg> ubottu: help
[03:33] <john> the problem should be hardware related, not ubuntu related
[03:33] <john> even on 16.04 I am still having problems with USB
[03:33] <john> and a few minutes ago all my USB's just went dead
[03:33] <john> on the bios menu
[03:33] <john> and a few seconds after that, just rebooted
[03:34] <john> ubuntu is still giving me a shit ton of usb x-x.x device description read/64, error -32
[03:34] <john> and device not accepting address 9, error -71
[03:34] <john> and Device not responding to setup address.
[03:35] <jeffguorg> what about windows, can Windows recognize your usb drive?
[03:35] <john> he can
[03:35] <john> normally
[03:35] <john> but it also hangs from time to time
[03:35] <john> everything on linux dmesg seems ok
[03:35] <john> except for the usb issues
[03:36] <jeffguorg> and what about other usb drives? or other usb devices?
[03:36] <john> I have nothing to test except what is already on the pc
[03:36] <john> webcam (logitech c720), tplink usb 3.0 powered hub, cooler master mech kb and logitech wireless mouse
[03:37] <jeffguorg> all of these don't work on your linux?
[03:37] <john> yes
[03:38] <john> used to
[03:38] <john> now there are a shitload of those usb error messages
[03:38] <john> and the system keeps freezing on linux (once now, while on bios, kb and mouse just went dark and after a few seconds, a reboot)
[03:39] <john> memtest went ok
[03:39] <john> ssd (smartctr) seems to be ok as well
[03:40] <john> I think something on my intel skull canyon may be faulty
[03:40] <SlidingHorn> john: Separating all of this into so many different lines is making it difficult, if not impossible, to help.  Can you please state your issue in as much detail as possible on one line?
[03:40] <SlidingHorn> john: also, please watch the language :)
[03:42] <john> SlidingHorn, some time ago, i've upgraded my sdd, ram and keyboard. after that the system keeps hanging and I'm receiving on linux several usb error messages on dmesg. memtest for ram seems ok (passed ok), smartctl for both ssd also ok, in both BIOS menu, ubuntu 16.04.4 and 18.04 I receive several errors like "device descriptor read/64, error -32" and "Device not responding to setup address."
[03:44] <john> also, sorry for the language SlidingHorn, common in my place, so I end up just speaking a translated version with those when talking here, will try my best to avoid
[03:44] <Bashing-om> john: AHCI - Advanced Host Controller Interface - enabled in bios ?
[03:44] <john> yes Bashing-om
[03:45] <jeffguorg> my kb and nvme ssd doesn't work on my pc. haven't figured out a solution. my problem is more likely a hardward problem or at least related to the motherboard. don't know about yours
[03:45] <john> jeffguorg, is your PC also a intel nuc?
[03:47] <jeffguorg> nuc? sorry i'm not a native english speaker. and i have two keyboard, the one not working is a 'mechanical keyboard'(in Chinese)
[03:47] <Bashing-om> jeffguorg: what release ?  Add the following kernel argument at boot time: nvme_load=YES .
[03:47] <john> jeffguorg, Intel NUC (search on duckduckgo for intel nuc6i7kyk)
[03:48] <jeffguorg> tried this, it's my motherboard not recognizing the nvme ssd
[03:51] <jeffguorg> john: no, i bought accessories separately and assemble them by my own
[03:51] <john> do you have the same device not accepting addressX error X?
[03:55] <jeffguorg> john: no, but you should paste your dmesg on pastebin or something like that. that make it easier for others to diagnose
[03:57] <john> jeffguorg, I'll post it again
[03:57] <john> just a sec
[04:00] <john> here you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZhW95X9QC3/
[04:04] <jeffguorg> haven't met a situation like this
[04:05] <john> sooo weird
[04:05] <john> really have no idea of how to solve this.
[04:06] <john> I'm like 99% sure this is related to the freezes and reboots I'm having
[04:06] <john> [ 2241.837319] usb 1-4-port4: unable to enumerate USB device.
[04:06] <john> [ 2241.837241] usb 1-4.4: device not accepting address 54, error -71
[04:06] <john> too weird not to be related
[04:07] <Two_Dogs> https://goo.gl/7rgPEc john a camera?
[04:07] <jeffguorg> gotta have lunch. it's 12 in China. ttyl
[04:08] <john> good lunch
[04:09] <john> Two_Dogs, are you saying that this may be the camera's fault?
[04:10] <Two_Dogs> john: i googled the id, i dont know who did what in the library with the candle stick
[04:10] <Two_Dogs> john: does the camera work?
[04:10] <john> perfectly on cheese and obs-studio
[04:11] <john> several errors like "uvcvideo 1-1:1.0: Entity type for entity Extension 4 was not initialized!" when plugged though
[04:14] <Two_Dogs> john: my bad, that id and and google was for usb 1-4.1 , the issue is with usb 1-4.4
[04:16] <john> I've put everything on the usb hub now, let me see if it will hang overnight... The main problem has it been that when it freezes, I cant find anything on the logs after reboot
[04:17] <john> no indication of what caused the reboot. the only problems I can see anywhere are the device not accepting address XX, error -32 (and -71)
[04:20] <Two_Dogs> john: look at the system log
[04:22] <john> I think I found something...
[04:22] <john> https://paulphilippov.com/articles/how-to-fix-device-not-accepting-address-error
[04:23] <john> it seems to bonkers to be true but let me try that.
[04:24] <X-RANDOM1971> hello
[04:24] <X-RANDOM1971> p
[04:24] <X-RANDOM1971> exus me
[04:24] <Triffid_Hunter> john: nah that's just a procedure for letting the polyfuses cool down if you're pulling too much power from USB.. is your keyboard one of those crazy ones that looks like a christmas tree and a disco had a baby? some of those are quite power hungry and your computer will thank you if you use a powered hub with them
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[04:37] <adheshgarg> I am trying to install ubuntu 18.04 in asus r558u but every time installer gets stuck on first few steps and it stops to respond
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[04:41] <adheshgarg> I am trying to install ubuntu 18.04 in asus r558u but every time installer gets stuck on first few steps and it stops to respond
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[04:58] <Newbie0012> Anyone else having issue with skype on ubuntu 16.04
[04:58] <Newbie0012> HTTP Error 400. The request is badly formed.
[04:58] <Newbie0012> I am receiving this error
[04:58] <SlidingHorn> Newbie0012: what method did you use to install skype?
[04:59] <Newbie0012> I have downloaded from microsoft just doble click
[04:59] <Newbie0012> It was working
[04:59] <myrat> hello everyone can i creat 2 partition raid 0 in my pc with 5 hdd?
 Today I have updated os after that this happend
[05:00] <SlidingHorn> !raid | myrat
[05:01] <SlidingHorn> Newbie0012: from microsoft?
 : Nope my base system daily update
[05:02] <SlidingHorn> Newbie0012: you said "downloaded from microsoft"
 Yes I did downloaded skype frm microsoft It was working but after I updated my system now skype not running
[05:03] <SlidingHorn> Newbie0012: Oh, are you running the Windows subsystem for linux?
 : I use ubuntu only i dont have windows
[05:05] <Spookan> Newbie0012: Have you reinstalled it?
[05:05] <Two_Dogs> Newbie0012: try this, complete removal of skype via synaptic and install skype from windows again
 <Two_Dogs> :  I did twise also posted in microsoft community :D I just wanted to know if anyone else affetced
[05:07] <Two_Dogs> Newbie0012: ok
[05:07] <Newbie0012> I cleared everythig from my stystem with skype on it
[05:07] <SlidingHorn> Newbie0012: sorry...I somehow didn't know that MS owned skype.  That was the source of my confusion.
 No issues I just wanted to if  there is any workaround so
[05:08] <Spookan> But why download it from Microsoft? Why not just use the Ubuntu app store thing, can't remember the name now hehe.
 I think both are different version
[05:10] <Spookan> Newbie0012: Ok, well my girlfriend installed it from there and she dosen't have any problems with it. Are you on 18.04?
[05:10] <SlidingHorn> Newbie0012: what version are you looking for?  The version in the snap repositories is 8.22.76.3 (I don't usually recommend snaps, but for Skype that might be the best way)
[05:10] <SlidingHorn> Spookan: they're on Xenial
 I am running 16.04
 Let me check again
[05:11] <Spookan> Newbie0012: Ah ok.
[05:13] <Muligan> hey fellas, I need some help with a vm i'm working with that has (2) nics
[05:13] <Muligan> i want the 2nd nic that's tied to my LAN to have no firewall rules applied to it
[05:14] <Muligan> however, the WAN interface, I'd like to have iptables rules enforced
[05:14] <Muligan> suggestions?
[05:15] <SlidingHorn> Muligan: see if this is helpful:  https://serverfault.com/questions/244767/enable-iptables-on-one-interface
[05:16] <Muligan> SlidingHorn, ty sir
[05:18] <Newbie0012> Installed skypeforlinux 8.20.0.9 from synaptic no luck
[05:20] <Two_Dogs> Newbie0012: running skype from terminal or click?
[05:21] <SlidingHorn> !pm | Newbie0012
[05:21] <Newbie0012> Sorry my mistake
[05:24] <Newbie0012> SlidingHorn: If any solutions please let me know :0
[05:24] <swift110> hey
[05:25] <SlidingHorn> Newbie0012: Two_Dogs asked a question that might help them in assisting you
[05:26] <Newbie0012> Two_Dogs: I tried both Its not a permission issue
[05:26] <oerheks> sudo snap install skype --classic # works fine here
[05:32] <Newbie0012> oerheks: Strange I am using same version
[05:48] <Two_Dogs> Newbie0012: you mean snap installed?
[05:52] <Newbie0012> Two_Dogs: Sorry for the delay yes I did
[05:53] <Newbie0012> and I have fixed issue
[05:54] <Newbie0012> snap install skype --classic this is installing a version 8.20.0.9
[05:55] <Newbie0012> snap install --channel=insider/stable --classic skype I tried this command received another version which is working
[05:55] <Newbie0012> 8.22.76.3 It is my current version
[05:56] <Newbie0012> Thanks for help  guys ;0
[05:56] <Newbie0012> :)
[06:13] <Two_Dogs> so lesson learned? fiddle with skype till it works?
[06:15] <subhani> llo
[06:26] <BerenErchamion> I found this in my Update Manager for Linux Mint 17.2 Cinnamon Rafaela (64-bit):  kmod package:  15-Oubuntu7
[06:26] <BerenErchamion> Here's the description:  "This dummy package is provided to support the transition from module-init-tools to kmod and should be removed afterwards."
[06:27] <BerenErchamion> I just want to know if I should allow it to be installed with my Update Manager or not
[06:27] <ducasse> !mint | BerenErchamion
[06:30] <BerenErchamion> I already talked to #linuxmint-help about it.  And they're not sure if I need to remove it or not, because they don't know if the removal is automatic or not
[06:32] <SlidingHorn> BerenErchamion: Well you should follow their advice.  Unfortunately we can't help you here
[06:32] <ducasse> well, they're the ones that can help you, i suggest you go back there.
[06:33] <BerenErchamion> What does kmod do, anyway, and why is it used with the ubuntu flavour?
[06:35] <BerenErchamion> I still don't understand the purpose of kmod after reading this link:  https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/kmod
[06:38] <ducasse> it's used to handle kernel modules, see the package description
[06:38] <Rowan> Random question, what is the legality/license in using a default Ubuntu wallpaper in your own projects? One of my web design clients wants to use one on their website.
[06:39] <ducasse> Rowan: there's usually a 'copyright' file in the package, see that
[06:42] <michaelrose> Anyone want to speculate as to why Canonical was too stupid to explicitly ban snaps from even including code that mines coin in the background?
[06:42] <michaelrose> https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/05/15/trust-and-security-in-the-snap-store
[06:42] <ducasse> that's offtopic here, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:42] <michaelrose> ok
[06:50] <Rowan> ducasse thanks, I'll see what I can find
[06:52] <ducasse> Rowan: 'dpkg -L package' will give you a list of files, you should be able to find it there
[07:03] <myrat> guys where i can find desktop cloud image ubuntu 16?
[07:03] <myrat> or 18 please help someone
[07:04] <Rowan> myrat: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[07:06] <myrat> Rowan: yeah i see it
[07:06] <myrat> but can't find desktop cloud image
[07:11] <EriC^> myrat: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/107211/where-can-i-find-a-cloud-image-of-ubuntu-desktop/
[07:16] <Lud> Hello everyone, I am curious. Does setting ufw defaults to 'deny (incoming), reject (outgoing), disabled (routed)' mean even if I connected to the internet (could I even connect?) there would be no network activity at all due to everything being denied/rejected?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> Lud: the #netfilter guys might be able to help perhaps
[07:17] <Lud> lotuspsychje: Thank you, I'll check it out.
[07:41] <deepfreez> Hi, Ubuntu 18.04 support LVM?
[07:43] <EriC^> yes deepfreez
[07:49] <deepfreez> thanks
[07:51] <deepfreez> Ubuntu Server has the layout of setup in text mode ?
[07:53] <Jonta> deepfreez: I don't quite understand your question
[07:54] <deepfreez> The interface of install ubuntu 18.04 is in text mode? because dosen't look like 16.04
[07:54] <deepfreez> I am in Filesystem setup and is so complicated :)
[07:55] <kiriuha> hello
[07:55] <kiriuha> ?
[08:02] <deepfreez> I cannot create a VLM partition from interface...
[08:14] <spexi> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 18.04, LVM and encrypted file system. I have swap only 980M, and would like to have 8gb. Gparted is not listing swap at all. Anyway, what are the steps to increase swap? Should I first free some space from the disk?
[08:15] <deepfreez> spexi, how you install Ubuntu 18.04 with lvm on / ?
[08:16] <spexi> deepfreez: I just selected that use LVM with the new ubuntu intsallation
[08:16] <spexi> installation*
[08:17] <deepfreez> you have desktop or server?
[08:17] <spexi> desktop
[08:17] <deepfreez> pfff on server image I don't have that option...
[08:18] <EriC^> spexi: what's the partition table look like right now?
[08:18] <EriC^> spexi: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'\
[08:20] <spexi> EriC^: does nothing but "Error: /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt: unrecognised disk label" :D
[08:21] <spexi> I found a discussion about my question, and there was an answer, that had the following as the first command: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=1024k
[08:21] <spexi> But what is the /dev/zero? And what is that command doing
[08:21] <EriC^> spexi: that creates a swap file full of zeros
[08:22] <EriC^> so you can use it as swap without altering the partition table just using the file
[08:22] <EriC^> a far quicker way is to use fallocate -l 8g /swapfile
[08:22] <spexi> EriC^: so... Where that example command takes the 1G of zeros, if I don't have any unused space
[08:23] <spexi> I mean, I have unused space on the disk but not unallocated
[08:23] <ducasse> it takes it from your root filesystem
[08:23] <repys> how can I enable php in apache2 in ubuntu?
[08:23] <EriC^> it's literally just creating a file, no partition table editing at all
[08:23] <spexi> Ah, okay
[08:24] <SlidingHorn> !lamp | repys
[08:25] <spexi> EriC^: so about that fallocate command.. should that command alone do the trick?
[08:47] <vlt> spexi: If you want to use any file or block device as swap space you have to run `mkswap` on it first, then `swapon the_thing`.
[08:48] <vlt> spexi: If you add it to /etc/fstab it will be caught by `swapon -a` as well.
[08:51] <deepfreez> Wny Ubuntu Server 18.04 after install is 3.3g?
[08:54] <vlt> deepfreez: `du` can tell you about disk usage. I like `du -hax / | sort -h | less`.
[08:54] <Aliekezhi> hi, I'd like to upgrade from ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04, is there anything else to do than a distupgrade (and of course a backup) ?
[08:55] <vlt> Aliekezhi: Is direct LTS to LTS already officially supported? I thought that will be possible when 18.04.1 is released.
[08:56] <SlidingHorn>  Aliekezhi / vlt the direct upgrade is not supported until July when the .1 release is available
[09:00] <Aliekezhi> vlt, SlidingHorn thanks
[09:07] <shibumi> hello is there away to skip network configuration in Ubuntu Server 18.04 Live Server ISO?
[09:07] <shibumi> s/away/a way/
[09:08] <shibumi> problems is: I have currently no network. I just want to setup some static IPs, make the base installation and then move the server somewhere else
[09:11] <kugys86> hi
[09:11] <SlidingHorn> shibumi: I believe there's an option to skip it when it gets to that point in the installation (at least it used to)
[09:23] <shibumi> SlidingHorn: nope.. no such point in the installer. If it fails to connect any interface it will fail
[09:23] <SlidingHorn> shibumi: do you have an ethernet cord physically plugged in?
[09:25] <xiaou> hi
[09:25] <shibumi> SlidingHorn: nope
[09:26] <shibumi> SlidingHorn: just the server rack with USB stick for the ISO, VGA and USB for keyboard
[09:35] <john_rambo> Can anyone please share his/her conky script so that I can try in with my ~/.conkyrc ?
[09:39] <evanharvey> hello
[09:45] <shibumi> SlidingHorn: nvm.. installing ubuntu server via ISO without network doesn't work at all due to the fact that it needs network to get the packages
[09:48] <senaps> hi all, on a digitalocean ubuntu droplet, i have setup a squid proxy thing using this settings. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TH88ZT5S5j/ i want to add authentication now, and if possible, have another http proxy listening without username/password but restricted to twitter.com. is that possible?
[09:50] <senaps> i want to use this vps as a proxy server so i can connect my phone and browser's to the websites that are censored in iran. it's for personal use, but some applications (like twitter android client) don't have any  way to enter authentications.
[09:50] <kiokoman> senaps: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3297196/how-to-set-up-a-squid-proxy-with-basic-username-and-password-authentication
[09:51] <senaps> kiokoman i tested this link, doesn't do what i want to do
[09:52] <kiokoman> what is not working there?
[09:53] <senaps> i can't connect to it afterwards! and it doesn't answer my other problem of having another proxy without authentication.
[09:57] <kiokoman> add acl lan dstdomain twitter.com | always_direct allow lan | for the second problem
[09:58] <spexi> vlt: ok, thanks :)
[10:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:07] <jo__> hello
[10:21] <za1b1tsu> is it possible to have a live cd of ubuntu minimal?
[10:26] <SlidingHorn> za1b1tsu: I don't believe so - what's the use case?
[10:27] <za1b1tsu> SlidingHorn: just want to have a fast OS and highly configured  on an usb
[10:30] <JimBuntu> za1b1tsu, you should be able to make your own "minimal" live usb
[10:32] <za1b1tsu> JimBuntu: by uninstalling stuff from a live ubuntu?
[10:34] <SlidingHorn> za1b1tsu: This might be helpful in doing so:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[10:34] <mancman3> za1b1tsu: https://www.maketecheasier.com/6-tools-to-easily-create-your-own-custom-linux-distro/
[10:35] <user__> xd
[10:36] <user__> hello
[10:36] <JimBuntu> za1b1tsu, What I was talking about was by starting with the version of your choice, installing the apps you want, then make an image and put that on USB.
[10:36] <user__> anyone who uses tor network
[10:37] <user__> hello
[10:37] <za1b1tsu> JimBuntu: oh, thanks I didnt know I could do that
[10:38] <JimBuntu> The links above are probably easier.
[10:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu
[11:11] <francisv> I used to run Ubuntu 17.10 on a Macbook Pro 7,1 (with NVIDIA GeForce 320M).  I upgraded it to Ubuntu 18.04 but the computer blocks when logging in because it takes Wayland by default.  I have created a USB drive with Ubuntu 18.04 to install it from scratch, but it does not work either.
[11:12] <francisv> When I select Install Ubuntu, the installation freezes when displaying the Ubuntu log.
[11:12] <francisv> logo
[11:12] <francisv> Which parameters or command should I use to force the Ubuntu install to use X.org instead Wayland
[11:12] <francisv> ?
[11:13] <SlidingHorn> francisv: 18.04 uses X by default, not wayland
[11:13] <mancman3> 18.04 ships both with xorg as DEFAULT.
[11:13] <francisv> SlidingHorn: yes, I have read that
[11:14] <francisv> but for some strange reason, my upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04 started using Wayland
[11:14] <francisv> and my very old NVIDIA card does not suppor it
[11:14] <mancman3> francisv: at the login screen there is a GEAR COG, where u can select wayland or x
[11:14] <francisv> Anyway, if we forget the issues when upgrading and concentrate in the clean install.  Why is Ubuntu freezing when selecting Install?
[11:15] <mancman3> is fast boot disabled?
[11:15] <francisv> mancman3: my upgrade does not take me to the login screen.  It freezes before
[11:15] <mancman3> is fast boot disabled?
[11:15] <francisv> I dont know
[11:15] <francisv> how can I check that?
[11:16] <mancman3> check in BIOS
[11:17] <Projectns_> Hello can somebody help me?
[11:17] <francisv> ok, I need to figure out how to check the BIOS in a Macbook Pro
[11:17] <SlidingHorn> francisv: !ask | Projectns_
[11:17] <Projectns_> i wanna reach my apache server with my hostname
[11:17] <SlidingHorn> oops
[11:17] <Projectns_> http://hostname/... but i dosent dosent work
[11:17] <Projectns_> *
[11:17] <mancman3> francisv: i have no idea... maybe a web search will give u clues
[11:17] <francisv> yes, I'm doing that
[11:17] <SlidingHorn> !details | Projectns_
[11:18] <Projectns_> !pastebin
[11:18] <JimBuntu> hostname.local
[11:19] <Projectns_> *https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d7Qrq9gPsf/
[11:19] <JimBuntu> Projectns_, either what I said above, or you should add the hostname<TAB>IPaddress to your /etc/hosts file
[11:22] <francisv> Some additional info: When trying Ubuntu from the USB drive, the terminal flashes with log messages of nouveau.
[11:22] <francisv> MMIO wirte of 000.. FAULT at ...
[11:24] <francisv> (summary: Ubuntu 18.04, Macbook Pro 7,1 with Nvidia Gforce 320M)\
[11:24] <Projectns_> mhh
[11:24] <Projectns_> ok i try
[11:24] <Projectns_> 127.0.0.1 itteam+
[11:24] <Projectns_> wrong?
[11:28] <mancman3> francisv: i can only suggest a fresh install of 18.04. upgrades from and to always cause problems, because it mixes old and new softwares
[11:29] <JimBuntu> Projectns_, are you trying to access the hostname from the same computer that has that hostname? i.e., Computer A has the web server AND you are trying to use Computer A to view the web page?
[11:32] <Projectns_> i try it from a another computer ... Win -> Ubuntu
[11:35] <JimBuntu> The hosts change is only going to effect the Linux machine that you are browsing from. If you want to make changes to the Windows machine, you may need to ask in #windows
[11:38] <J3kyl> Projectns_ : sorry just got in the room what are you trying to do?
[11:38] <Ool> and if you try ping webserver is it working ?
[11:38] <Ool> name resolution need to work on your client
[11:39] <JimBuntu> Windows machine with browser, Linux with apache, wants to configure Windows to be able to use the apache servers hostname in browser, such as http://apache-server/index.html
[11:40] <francisv> mancman3: I am trying to do a fresh install from USB drive, but it freezes
[11:40] <JimBuntu> francisv, does it freeze if you try to do a fresh install of 16.04?
[11:41] <francisv> I did a fresh install with 16.04 long time ago, then I upgraded it to 17.10.  Everything was working fine.
[11:41] <francisv> until I upgraded to 18.04
[11:48] <francisv> can it be that Ubuntu 18.04 just drop all support to Nvidia Gforce 320M?
[11:51] <JimBuntu> francisv, is your UDB drive a live boot device? If so, are you able to boot into the "try ubuntu" portion?
[11:53] <francisv> JimBuntu: it is a USB drive created as explained in https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#0
[11:53] <francisv> I have tried the option "try ubuntu"
[11:54] <francisv> but it freezes
[11:54] <francisv> the log messages I described above are from this try
[11:55] <mancman3> edit grub with acpi=off maybe ?
[11:56] <mancman3> francisv: when u boot the install usb press is it F4 ? and choose acpi=off
[11:56] <JimBuntu> My suggestion would be to add    modprobe.blacklist=nouveau    to the kernel params in grub
[11:56] <mancman3> ^ or that
[11:57] <francisv> then, which driver would it use>?
[11:57] <francisv> I will try anyway\
[11:58] <BluesKaj> !u | mancman3
[11:58] <francisv> I run REFIND.  I am afraid I modified long time ago the variable 'spoof_osx_version' in refind.conf.  I have only one USB drive, so it is taking time to swap between REFIND and the bootable Ubuntu
[11:59] <mancman3> I type how i type, simple
[11:59] <francisv> lol.  I still can follow mancman3
[11:59] <mancman3> BluesKaj: i will try keep that in mind :)
[12:00] <BluesKaj> it's the rules as stated above, thanks
[12:00] <jcdutton> francisv, I don't know for sure, but if you use nvidia drivers, you might need to install an older version for an older nvidia card.
[12:00] <Projectns_> J3kyl: sry ... i wanna ping my server with my hostname itteam... but i doesnt work
[12:01] <JimBuntu> Projectns_, is the computer you are trying to ping FROM using Ubuntu?
[12:01] <Projectns_> yes
[12:01] <Projectns_> Ubuntu 16.04
[12:02] <Projectns_> the ubuntu system has a ip -> 192.168.2.254 .. but i cant ping the hostname itteam
[12:02] <JimBuntu> in that case, make the /etc/hosts change I mentioned before.  You would add itteam<TAB>IPaddressOfItteam
[12:03] <JimBuntu> Projectns_, it would look like                                    itteam     192.168.2.254
[12:03] <Projectns_> ok ... and what is when i get a another ip? ^^ from dhcp
[12:04] <JimBuntu> Projectns_, then you would need to change it again. So, better to configure your DHCP to always give the same IP for the NIC in the Apache2 server
[12:04] <Projectns_> ok
[12:05] <mgedmin> do you have avahi-daemon on both machines?  you should be able to ping using the <hostname>.local
[12:05] <doug16k> mgedmin, looks like disabling selective suspend fixes my usb stack going crazy, hotplug failure, and error spam, when I connect my hub. thanks for the suggestion
[12:05] <Projectns_> mh i try
[12:05] <mgedmin> (actually only one machine needs avahi-daemon, the other one needs libnss-mdns)
[12:05] <JimBuntu> mgedmin, I mentioned that long ago, but it seems they want to use "hostname" and not with .local at the end
[12:06] <mgedmin> doug16k: I'm happy my stab in the dark hit the target!
[12:06] <mgedmin> ah, high volume channels are fun
[12:06] <mgedmin> sorry for adding to the noise
[12:06] <Projectns_> the thing is.. i installed 18.04 without problem .. and i could reach itteam -> ip
[12:07] <R13ose> My boot is hanging on "started update utmp about runlevel changes" how do I fix this?
[12:07] <JimBuntu> Projectns_, you mean, 18.04 on the apache2 server? and from that server, you could use the hostname?
[12:07] <Projectns_> yes
[12:07] <JimBuntu> Projectns_, well, of course you could... you were on the server the hostname belonged to.
[12:07] <francisv> mancman3: JimBuntu I am at the GNU GRUB interface.  F4 is not available
[12:08] <francisv> only e to edit commands gbefore booting
[12:08] <francisv> or c for command line
[12:08] <JimBuntu> francisv, if you are at the interface, use 'e'
[12:08] <francisv> I type e
[12:08] <JimBuntu> add the words I mentioned right after the root UUID portion
[12:09] <R13ose> All I did was sudo fsck -Af and sudo reboot
[12:09] <JimBuntu> although, I think you can simply add them at the end of the line
[12:09] <JimBuntu> mgedmin, if that sorry was meant for me, it's not needed. I didn't see your suggestion as noise. I simply wanted to bring you up to date
[12:10] <mancman3> to get up and running you could add nomodeset after splashscreen comment. then once installed, install gpu driver
[12:10] <francisv> JimBuntu: there is nothing with root in that file.  the commands are:
[12:10] <francisv> set gfxpayload
[12:10] <francisv> and then linux, and then initrd
[12:11] <francisv> after that, in a new line I add:
[12:11] <francisv> modprobe.blacklist=neouveau
[12:11] <francisv> nouveau
[12:11] <Projectns_> mhh dont work
[12:11]  * mgedmin apologizes for adding to the noise with unnecessary apologies
[12:15] <Projectns_>  sudo: Hostname itteam kann nicht aufgelöst werden: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
[12:15] <jcdutton> francisv, why don't you use nouveau ?
[12:16] <Projectns_> hostname cant be disbanded ... cant find data or directory? o0
[12:16] <francisv> mancman3: JimBuntu: I am not sure how to use that interface.  It is suppose to be a Minimum Emacs-like screen editing, but no Emacs commands are available, or at least, the Control key is not working as a modifier key.  The simple instructions "Press Ctrl-x to boot" does not work, it just types "x"
[12:16] <francisv> No other typical Emacs key bindings as C-a, C-e work
[12:18] <francisv> ok, Control in Macbook pro is just not recotnized
[12:18] <francisv> F10 works fine
[12:18] <francisv> to gboot
[12:18] <francisv> boot
[12:18] <francisv> I continue testing..
[12:20] <francisv> jcdutton: the installer is trying to use nouveau
[12:20] <francisv> it is the one that is crashing
[12:20] <francisv> apparently
[12:23] <mancman3> francisv: a quick search shows that Press "Command," "Option" and the letters "O" and "F" simultaneously before the system starts up. will bring up BIOS on a mac book. as u power on do that << and disable fast boot if it is there
[12:25] <de-facto> hmm why is Ctrl+Alt+Backspace deactivated in ubuntu? every third login or so Xorg seems to be unable to bring up the Gnome DE when after login with correct password, so i want to KILL it
[12:26] <mgedmin> it was deactivated because people kept hitting it by accident
[12:26] <mgedmin> you can use Alt+SysRq+K to kill X.org (and everything else on that console)
[12:26] <mgedmin> ... if you enable it via a sysctl
[12:26] <mgedmin> (funny story: "you can use alt+sysrq+k" was mentioned as an argument in the discussion whether to disable ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:26] <francisv> I tried acpi=off and did not change the situtation, I also tried blacklisting nouveau but did not work either.  Although I am not totally sure the way how I use those options was correct.  What I did was type 'e' in the GRUB interface, then, at the end, I added a new line with those option.  One option at a time.
[12:27] <francisv> I will try disable fast boot
[12:27] <mgedmin> (but a later ubuntu version disabled alt+sysr+k and every other alt+sysrq shortcut except for the basic alt+sysrq+S,U,B as an emergency reboot)
[12:28] <BluesKaj> mgedmin, which key is sysrq ?
[12:28] <mgedmin> on my keyboard the printscreen key has 'sysrq' written in a different color underneath
[12:29] <rungcc_from_work> hi again guys
[12:29] <rungcc_from_work> I'm john from yesterday
[12:29] <BluesKaj> on most KBs it's PrtScn
[12:30] <rungcc_from_work> well, on my saga with linux and intel skull canyon NUC giving me a lot of USB errors... I think my nuc's mobo is dying :( not the computer don't even start the OS, I'll do more tests but it is possible a goodbye for my PC :(
[12:31] <francisv> mancman3: My computer boots using REFIND.  Trying 'command' + 'option' + 'O' + 'F' does not do anything special.  The REFIND boot management interface comes as normal.
[12:31] <mancman3> francisv: i've never used a mac. sorry
[12:32] <mancman3> francisv: 16.04 still has 3 years of life remaining too.
[12:32] <de-facto> mgedmin, hmm ppl hitting a specific three letter key combo my accident? wow. well i wish i could say Xorg was stable enough that this (well known) key combination would not be required anymore, yet unfortunately its not..
[12:32] <mancman3> francisv: so that is an option. As you say 16.04 worked fine ?
[12:33] <francisv> yes, 16.04 and 17.10 worked fine
[12:34] <francisv> Thank you for the support.
[12:34] <mancman3> Didn't exactly help though did we :(
[12:35] <Projectns_> mh
[12:38] <mgedmin> de-facto: I've done it myself!  ctrl+alt+right to switch workspaces, then hit backspace a bit too quickly
[12:40] <`whoami`> hello. I'm running ubuntu 18.04 as a live session, and would like to backup the config (keyboard layouts and such) to be able to import them on next boot. Is there any recommended tool for that ?
[12:40] <`whoami`> keyboard layout and wifi passwords would be a good start
[12:40] <francisv> mancman3: In a new try, I added acpi=off to the linux command, something similar to this https://askubuntu.com/questions/160036/how-do-i-disable-acpi-when-booting
[12:40] <francisv> the installer compleains now that it is unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[12:41] <mancman3> francisv: remove the acpi=off then
[12:42] <de-facto> mgedmin, i just reactivated Ctrl + Alt + Backspace with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration", it seems to work, but _not_ when the gray login screen after correct credentials in GDM stays indefinitely. i thought it always should kill Xorg. Do i really always have to "killall -KILL Xorg" when that happens?
[12:42] <mancman3> replace it with nomodeset (this removes graphics acceleration ) see it this works
[12:44] <mancman3> francisv: the nomodeset u add after quiet_splash i think it says. quiet splash anyway
[12:44] <kostkon> !nomodeset
[12:44] <sybariten> Oh hai
[12:45] <sybariten> What does a command like "apt-cache policy docker-ce" do ?
[12:45] <mancman3> indeed
[12:45] <Fuchs> sybariten: show what source from the package docker-ce and in what version it is available, or installed if installed
[12:45] <mancman3> sybariten: do 'man apt-cache' in terminal
[12:45] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: tells you which version (if any) is installed and which version is available in your repos.  See man    apt-cache
[12:46] <francisv> mancman3: nomodeset works
[12:46] <mancman3> francisv: and it is installing ?
[12:47] <Projectns_> help
[12:47] <francisv> well, it has started Ubuntu from the USB stick
[12:47] <francisv> I will try to install it now
[12:48] <sybariten> so basicly i've done an apt-add repository before that, but mayube my wanted package isnt in that added repo anyhow...
[12:49] <SlidingHorn> Projectns_: I have a feeling something is being lost in translation.  Are you a native German speaker?
[12:49] <mancman3> francisv: that's good. Once installed. check 'additional drivers' in software && updates, after enabling main, universe, multiverse and restricted repos under ubuntu software TAB. goog luck with it.
[12:50] <lapaga> sybariten, did you sudo apt update after adding the repo?
[12:51] <Projectns_> SlidingHorn yes im ^^
[12:51] <tomreyn> !de | Projectns_
[12:51] <Projectns_> ty
[12:51] <SimonNL_Afk> bitte
[12:52] <sybariten> lapaga: yerah, ive done it a couple of times...
[12:52] <sybariten> lapaga: ive moved on to more modern instruyctions now, from dockers own page instead. But it actually doesnt seem to find the package, although all the instruyctions before that finish without error
[12:53] <sybariten> i shall maybe look at this after a tea an an ice cream
[12:56] <`whoami`> !live
[12:56] <`whoami`> !backup
[12:56] <`whoami`> !sbackup
[13:12] <francisv> mancman3: the installer did its job.  It did some partition formatting and copied a bunch of files.  When rebooting the machine, the same problem happens.
[13:13] <mancman3> add nomodeset again. (it only stays until reboot) then do as i said ^^ and check additional drivers for gpu driver
[13:14] <pragmaticenigma> francisv: did you have luck getting Ubuntu reinstalled?
[13:14] <francisv> pragmaticenigma: no
[13:14] <Projectns_> Hello got an question.. i can reach my server on the adress itteam.local.. is it possible to reach the server on itteam
[13:15] <mancman3> pragmaticenigma: it is installed but blackscreening
[13:15] <mancman3> francisv: the installer finished if it told u to reboot / remove media
[13:16] <francisv> mancman3: yes
[13:16] <francisv> mancman3: well, not proper bladcksdcreeing, it freezes while displaying the ubuntu logo, or flashes while displaying nouveau log errors in terminal
[13:17] <leftyfb> Projectns_: if you've got your network setup properly, yes
[13:17] <Projectns_> and how can i change it
[13:21] <leftyfb> Projectns_: add .local to your search domain in your network settings. This should actually be done on your DHCP server/router
[13:24] <Projectns_> i have an domain with ..name.local ..
[13:24] <Projectns_> is it possible to get in there
[13:24] <leftyfb> Projectns_: yes, as I said about
[13:24] <Projectns_> and how can i change .local to ... name.local
[13:25] <leftyfb> wait, what?
[13:26] <deem> Projectns_: crosspostings are bad and as you have been told in #ubuntu-de this is not an ubuntu issue as it is a configuration thing on your windows client or router
[13:26] <leftyfb> Stick with hostname.local   Don't bother with hostname.sub.local
[13:26] <leftyfb> Projectns_: this is for Windows????
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !
[13:29] <Projectns_> yes its for widnwos
[13:29] <Projectns_> sry
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> Projectns_  type   /j ##windows
[13:29] <cfhowlett> yeah, comPLETEly off-topic here.
[13:29] <seven-eleven> how can i know from what ppa source a package got installed?
[13:30] <SlidingHorn> seven-eleven: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[13:30] <leftyfb> seven-eleven: apt-cache policy <package>
[13:30] <Fuchs> note that not all clients support /j, so I suggest /join
[13:30] <SlidingHorn> I win.
[13:30] <seven-eleven> thanks
[13:31] <seven-eleven> looks like its not firefox nightly that i installed hmm
[13:32] <seven-eleven> whats the package name of firefox nightly in ubuntu? firefox-trunk?
[13:33] <seven-eleven> oh yeah, had to install firefox-trunk not firefox, see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[13:34] <i4> hi, how can I enable VPN for some selected applications and not for all the traffic on my ubuntu?
[13:38] <pragmaticenigma> i4: You may have better luck in the #networking channel.
[13:38] <SlidingHorn> i4: ^^  also, try googling ubuntu split tunneling - there are a couple guides, but they're not from official sources and I don't know how upd to date they ary
[13:39] <SlidingHorn> s/upd/up  s/ary/are
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> i4  using a proxy comes to mind
[13:40] <pragmaticenigma> MonkeyDust: Proxies are different than VPNs, you can overlay the two, but you would still have to configure the proxy server to use the VPN connection and all other applications to use primary connection
[13:42] <rory> Does Ubuntu 18.04 repository have Ruby 2.4?
[13:42] <SlidingHorn> !info ruby
[13:42] <pragmaticenigma> !info ruby bionic
[13:42] <pragmaticenigma> rory: why would you be attempting to install an older version of Ruby?
[13:43] <rory> Ubuntu 16.04 only comes with Ruby 2.3 and my application requires Ruby 2.4 - For now I can find 2.4 in a third-party PPA, but I'm wondering if I should just upgrade to 18.04
[13:43] <rory> I'm trying to install a newer version
[13:44] <pragmaticenigma> rory: It would appear that Ubuntu 18.04 is offering Ruby 2.5 (if I'm reading the version numbers correctly)
[13:44] <rory> That would be fine too. It's 2.4 or greater.
[13:44] <rory> Thanks.
[13:44] <SlidingHorn> rory: ah - well just be aware that an upgrade from xenial to bionic isn't officially supported until the .1 release in July.  That's not to say it's not doable, though
[13:44] <cfhowlett> IMO, LTS only and wait for the .1 release to upgrade.  UMMV
[13:44] <rory> I don't actually mean upgrade, we are building images fresh each time, I would just update the base image
[13:45] <rory> upgrading servers in place is so 2003
[13:45] <pragmaticenigma> Installing from fresh should work just fine rory ... and it appears 18.04 exceeds your requirements at this time.
[13:48] <rory> i4: I think that will only work if the application itsself allows you to select which network adaptor it should use
[13:50] <sybariten> So, i'm getting back to my questrion. If i'm trying to install Docker from a guide at their own site, and apt says it cant find the package ... after i have added a custom Docker repo... where should i start looking for problems? I'm on Ubuntu 18 in this case, could it be too new?
[13:51] <Two_Dogs> sybariten: after adding you refreshed cache?
[13:51] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: ^^  (by   sudo apt update)
[13:52] <rory> if apt update does not work, it is likely too new, try changing the file in /etc/sources.list.d/something and change "bionic" to "artful" then apt update
[13:52] <rory> I didn't think Docker installed via a repository though
[13:53] <SlidingHorn> !info docker bionic
[13:53] <SlidingHorn> oh that's not what we're looking for
[13:54] <roylaprattep> Someone can help optimize samba transfer? It's so damn slow... 1mo/sec, debian file server with samba, downloading file from a windows 10 workstation
[13:54] <lapaga> per dockers ce page its 14.04,16.04,17.10
[13:54] <leftyfb> roylaprattep: try #debian or #windows
[13:54] <cfhowlett> roylaprattep, debian is supported in the #debian channels
[13:55] <roylaprattep> Ubuntu is debian based guys haha, come on...
[13:55] <SlidingHorn> roylaprattep: try asking for ubuntu help in debian...see how that goes.  Different distros have different support channels
[13:55] <cfhowlett> roylaprattep, we're aware.  still: ask debian for support with their distro
[13:55] <leftyfb> roylaprattep: yes, and there are things in debian that aren't in ubuntu and vice versa. They are not supported in the same way
[13:56] <rory> the fact they're supposedly so similar lulls people into a false sense of security
[13:56] <rory> and weird things happen due to subtle differences
[14:01] <pragomer> my gnome-calender shows me times like 3pm instead of (im in germany) 15.00h
[14:01] <pragomer> how can I change this?
[14:02] <SlidingHorn> pragomer: what DE are you using?
[14:02] <pragomer> gnome
[14:02] <pragomer> under 18.04
[14:04] <sybariten> Two_Dogs: SlidingHorn : yes, im pretty sure i did the update after adding the repo. It's written like that in the Docker guide. But i could try again. Hm. Weird
[14:04] <SlidingHorn> pragomer: Menu > System Settings > Date & Time > Time FOrmat
[14:05] <sybariten> rory: thanks for the tip, will look into the sources.list.d file(s)
[14:06] <pragmaticenigma> pragomer: There is not a way to customize the clock in Gnome-Shell... it's one of the most common questions asked.
[14:07] <leftyfb> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/617/fixclock/
[14:07] <mgedmin> gnome-tweaks has a few clock customization options
[14:08] <leftyfb> actually, maybe don't use the extension I posted above
[14:11] <pragomer> oh my lord. yes it was such simple. I could do the setting under "Date & Time" in systemsettings.
[14:11] <pragomer> thank you very much
[14:12] <sybariten> rory: sorry, did you mean i should go into /etc/apt/ and change anyu of the sources.* files there?
[14:12] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: let us see the link this gives you    xinxi -rz | pastebinit
[14:12] <SlidingHorn> s/xinxi/inxi
[14:14] <sybariten> SlidingHorn: dont havce either of those but i can install them...
[14:15] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: inxi & pastebinit are installed by default I believe
[14:15] <sybariten> SlidingHorn: actually i dont have them... inxi didnt exist in the repo...
[14:15] <sybariten> pastebinit i could get
[14:15] <SlidingHorn> !info inxi bionic
[14:16] <leftyfb> sybariten: enable the Universe repo
[14:18] <sybariten> leftyfb: gotcha sir
[14:18] <sybariten> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WShWk4fpRV/
[14:18] <IntelCore> simple question, How to replace /etc/default/grub with the last one, grub.bak0 ?
[14:19] <IntelCore> me has had a change of the grub, and it has the text.. now, so I need hide that
[14:19] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: first - is there a # in front of the line that has "cdrom"?
[14:19] <SlidingHorn> (there should be)
[14:19] <IntelCore> But It Read Only
[14:21] <sybariten> SlidingHorn: you mean in apt etc sources.list right? No actually there isnt, the cdrom line is uncommented
[14:22] <IntelCore> cdrom is a source. for the install
[14:23] <sybariten> yeah...
[14:23] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: Okay - one thing I'm seeing (other than that - and yes, if you've completed your install, that line should be commented out) is that Docker doesn't have a bionic repo yet...
[14:23] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: you can take your chances with their artful repository, but that could lead to some dependency issues.
[14:23] <sybariten> SlidingHorn: so should i try this apporoach of changing all the bionic appearencses to something else?
[14:24] <sybariten> SlidingHorn: no problem, i wont break anything important anyhow. I'll try thanks.
[14:24] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: *only* with the docker repo entry...you may also want to post in their forum asking when a bionic one will be made available
[14:25] <ioria> https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu/dists/
[14:25] <SlidingHorn> sybariten: there *is* a docker snap   sudo snap install docker
[14:25] <SlidingHorn> !snap | sybariten
[14:25] <SlidingHorn> no snap factoid?  interesting.
[14:26] <sybariten> yeah, i saw something about that in that GUI package management tool on the ubuntu desktop... i dont know what snap is though
[14:26] <IntelCore> < read about docker
[14:26] <SlidingHorn> ioria: AH - they haven't updated their install instructions it seems
[14:27] <IntelCore> oh yeah! this docker has to do with, doing what was like the unity left stripe of a panel
[14:27] <ioria> probably
[14:27] <J3kyl> can anyone help me with my IRC clients on Ubuntu 18.04? I’ve got Pidgin and Konversation neither one connects to IRC. Konversation says server found connecting and stays like that forever
[14:27] <IntelCore> < where snaps come off the left
[14:27] <ioria> !info xchat
[14:27] <chanikan> does anyone use anti virus for ubuntu, or have anyone gotten a virus ubuntu that you know off?
[14:28] <IntelCore> clamd
[14:28] <sybariten> oh, a cross-platform package distribution initiative?
[14:28] <J3kyl> I’m wondering if it’s something in my settings for the IRC server but I’ve got the same settings in my iOS client and it connects
[14:28] <SlidingHorn> J3kyl: see ubottu's post about xchat
[14:28] <IntelCore> hex is a nexgen xchat
[14:29] <J3kyl> SLidingHorn: OK I just want a client tha works
[14:29] <d2r2> hello
[14:29] <IntelCore> pidgin in bionic?
[14:29] <mancman3> 0x0893423523chat aka hexchat works well :) lol
[14:29] <d2r2> I am using Thunderbird
[14:30] <SlidingHorn> IntelCore: it works - there's also a discord plugin for it
[14:30] <d2r2> Just found out that it supports IRC as well
[14:30] <J3kyl> IntelCore: I have Pidgin but it doesn’t connect either gives me an error
[14:30] <mancman3> yup
[14:30] <IntelCore> we need to sign in discord and do ubuntuone in bionic
[14:30] <ioria> J3kyl, if also xchat fails, please let us know
[14:31] <J3kyl> ioria: OK going to try it and update
[14:31] <concept10> I've lost the ability to grab anything on my desktop.  What is the correct session shortcut for Ubbuntu default desktop (18.04))
[14:31] <IntelCore> usb mouse?
[14:32] <concept10> IntelCore Yes
[14:32] <IntelCore> Be sure it working. but, u can restart,
[14:33] <IntelCore> what u was doing when it hung
[14:33] <concept10> The mouse works, it just doesnt grab anything on the screen
[14:34] <Budgii> after a reboot I got a message: A new version of ubuntu is avaialble would you like to upgrade? -- will this delete all my files?
[14:34] <concept10> I can still use the keyboard.  Don't want to reinstall just installed doezens of libraries
[14:34] <ioria> concept10, you mean you cannot 'click' ?
[14:34] <SlidingHorn> Budgii: what version are you currently running?
[14:34] <d2r2> Budgii no it will not
[14:34] <IntelCore> concept10 - no reinstall
[14:34] <concept10> ioria That's correct.
[14:35] <Budgii> I'm on budgie, which is weird it's offering Ubuntu 18 LTS
[14:35] <ioria> concept10, echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[14:35] <d2r2> SlidingHorn: I think non LTS
[14:35] <SlidingHorn> Budgii: what version?
[14:35] <Budgii> Ubuntu Budgie
[14:35] <concept10> ioria Just remembered, this condition happened after installing gnome-tweaks
[14:35] <SlidingHorn> that's not a version..that's a flavor/DE
[14:35] <Budgii> it wants to give me 18.04 LTS
[14:36] <ioria> concept10,  gnome-tweak should not causing that
[14:36] <u0_a266> hello
[14:36] <IntelCore> He had a 17.10 in budgi?
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> Budgii: The question is what version of Ubuntu Budgie are you currently running ... like 16.04, 17.10, 14.04?
[14:36] <Budgii> pragmaticenigma, how do I tell?
[14:36] <concept10> ioria That enviroment variable returns nothing
[14:37] <d2r2> Budgii: Go to settings > Details and check your version
[14:37] <u0_a266> xn
[14:37] <u0_a266> hello
[14:37] <IntelCore> hello ask it
[14:37] <pragmaticenigma> Budgii, or run "lsb_release -a" on the command line
[14:37] <u0_a266> exit
[14:37] <Budgii> d2r2, thanks. Budgie 17.10
[14:37] <u0_a266> tor
[14:37] <kiriuha> hello
[14:38] <Two_Dogs> concept10: via terminal> journalctl --dmesg --pri=3 ## is mouse/input-device mentioned?
[14:38] <kiriuha> ls
[14:38] <kiriuha>  
[14:38] <kiriuha>  
[14:38] <kiriuha>  
[14:38] <kiriuha>  
[14:38] <SlidingHorn> Budgii: okay - back up anything important, and go ahead.  You *shouldn't* lose anything, but as with any upgrade, there's always a chance something could go awry
[14:38] <pragmaticenigma> Budgii: because you're not running LTS of Ubuntu-Budgie, you're being offered the release update. If you were on 16.04, you won't receive a notice until later this year.
[14:38] <J3kyl> Installed XChat and it’s been connecting to freenode for 3 minutes now
[14:39] <concept10> Two_Dogs Not mentioned.  Thanks.
[14:39] <IntelCore> back it, upDate it, then UpGrade it
[14:39] <d2r2> j3kyl use hexchat its better
[14:39] <pragmaticenigma> Budgii: SlidingHorn has great advice, make sure to back up all your important files, should anything go wrong your files are guaranteed to be safe.
[14:39] <J3kyl> d2r2 I just want one that will actually connect
[14:39] <Budgii> SlidingHorn, pragmaticenigma, thank you both. so this version Ubuntu 18 something LTS is the newest version of Ubuntu??
[14:39] <Budgii> that came out in april
[14:40] <SlidingHorn> Budgii: correct
[14:40] <ioria> J3kyl, close and try again
[14:40] <J3kyl> I’m on my iPad and it connects fine but I try to connect on my laptop and no client so far is able to connect
[14:40] <d2r2> Does anyone else feel wierd about the right side cross button
[14:40] <Budgii> SlidingHorn, cool. Do you like the new version?
[14:40] <J3kyl> ioria: will do
[14:40] <d2r2> j3kyl I have used xchat and hexchat both
[14:40] <ioria> J3kyl, as far as you have a working connection ...
[14:41] <d2r2> d3kyl you can even use thunderbird which also has IRC
[14:41] <IntelCore> << needs to set "splash" in /etc/default/grub But it Read Only in gedit
[14:41] <ioria> concept10, are you using gnome-shell ?
[14:41] <Two_Dogs> concept10: via terminal> grep -Ei 'EE|WW|error|warn|fail' /var/log/Xorg.0.log ## is mouse/input device mentioned?
[14:41] <d2r2> j3kyl ioria may be right about this because everything should work fine usually
[14:42] <concept10> Two_Dogs: grep: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: No such file or directory
[14:43] <IntelCore> lost mouse on usb, can systemd recover
[14:43] <ioria> concept10,  ther you are on wayland
[14:43] <enissay2> Is there way to search files content in a remote SFTP with SSH disabled without the need to download all 500+K files ?
[14:43] <concept10> ioria: Yes.  Default 18.04 install.  Was working fine until installing gnome-tweek and some gnome extensions.  Want to disable and remove the extensions
[14:43] <IntelCore> oh, way lan
[14:43] <J3kyl> d2r2 and ioria: these are my settings what do you think? irc.freenode.net/8001, auto connect at startup, nickserv password. The server was pre-filled by XChat so I didn’t do anything with it
[14:44] <leftyfb> enissay2: I don't think so.
[14:44] <mgedmin> doesn't 18.04 use rootless X that logs into ~/.cache/ somewhere?
[14:44] <Two_Dogs> concept10: no idea
[14:44] <J3kyl> iPad is on the same wifi network and it’s connected so I’m wondering what else could be causing the issue
[14:44] <enissay2> :'(
[14:44] <concept10> Two_Dogs Thanks
[14:44] <ioria> concept10,  you can disable exts from gnome-tweak , you know that
[14:44] <IntelCore> i see grub.bak, so i nano edit it??
[14:44] <mgedmin> ~/.local/share/xorg/ actually, not ~/.cache
[14:44] <concept10> ioria cant use the nouse
[14:45] <ioria> right
[14:45] <ioria> concept10,   can you paste 'env' output ?
[14:46] <IntelCore> sure it was tweak?
[14:46] <ioria> J3kyl,  still no connection ?
[14:47]  * mgedmin is pretty sure concept10 is suffering from a rogue X11 app that didn't release the mouse grab
[14:47] <concept10> ioria: I see nothing relevant but XDG_SESSION_ID=52
[14:47] <concept10> XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
[14:47] <concept10> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
[14:47] <concept10> SHLVL=1
[14:47] <mgedmin> I saw someone else complaining about this recently, it was the gnome-settings-daemon subprocess that highlights mouse cursor when you hit Ctrl
[14:47] <ioria> concept10,   on paste.ubuntu.com   or   env | pastebinit
[14:48] <concept10> ioria : sorry, havent been here since 2004
[14:48] <kristian2709_> Hey, please could someone help me pxe boot maas images? I am getting this error. "mount: mounting https://images.maas.io/ephemeral-v3/daily/bionic/amd64/20180426.2/squashfs on /root failed: No such device"
[14:48] <mgedmin> concept10: can you try pkill gsd-locate-pointer and see if that helps?
[14:49] <SlidingHorn> kristian2709_: You *may* get someone to help here, but try #maas
[14:50] <kristian2709_> SlidingHorn gonna check it out
[14:50] <IntelCore> is there a grub chan?
[14:51] <Two_Dogs> concept10: are you using a virtual machine?
[14:51] <SlidingHorn> !alis | IntelCore try searching with
[14:51] <IntelCore> yes thanks
[14:52] <concept10> ioria mgedmin It has to be one of these gnome shell extensions thats grabing my mouse continously.  I installed some paste bin mod, Ctrl-F9 will bring it up right now and I can select with the mouse.  After focus returns to the desktop, I cant grab anything else.  So i'm betting the root cause is some extension.
[14:52] <concept10> Two_Dogs Hardware
[14:52] <ioria> concept10,   agree
[14:53] <ioria> concept10,   gnome-shell-extension-tool --help
[14:53] <concept10> ioria thanks
[14:53] <sybariten> SlidingHorn: docker "sort of" instralled by help of snap... thanks!
[14:53] <ioria> concept10,  that should allow you to disable the exts from cli
[14:53] <mgedmin> concept10: logout + login should fix that, temporarily -- and then you can maybe disable the extension
[14:53] <concept10> mgedmin That doesnt work.  Rebooted several times
[14:54] <concept10> ioria Thanks.  I wish I could list the extensions from cmd line
[14:54] <mgedmin> I think you can, with gsettings (or dconf)
[14:54] <mgedmin> it's not necessarily convenient
[14:55] <J3kyl> ugh have no clue switched from wifi to ethernet and still no dice jsut connecting forever. I think I’m just going to uninstall all the clients and start from scratch
[14:55] <mgedmin> gsettings get org.gnome.shell enabled-extensions
[14:55] <concept10> mgedmin thanks for that
[14:56] <ioria> concept10,  take a look at   ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions   if any
[14:57] <concept10> ioria mgedmin Okay.  Thanks for the suggestions. I've disabled some, not rebooting since I cant get the mouse to log out the desktop
[14:57] <ioria> concept10,  gnome-session-quit --no-prompt
[14:58] <concept10> ioria:  Thanks - ill remember that, I hate when I cant do something from the command line
[14:58] <kiriuha> hello
[14:58] <kiriuha> ?
[14:58] <mgedmin> you can type 'reboot' in a terminal
[14:58] <mgedmin> you don't even need sudo if you're the only logged-in user
[14:59] <IntelCore> my sussdio. eh
[14:59] <kiriuha> error
[14:59] <mgedmin> also hey, I used to be able to use ctrl+alt+tab to focus the tab bar and access all of its menus, including the system menu that has the logout button, with the keyboard
[14:59] <concept10> mgedmin I know about reboot, was talking about logging out of the desk top
[14:59] <IntelCore> no one in grub, awake
[14:59] <u0_a1595> djdbx
[14:59] <mgedmin> but it doesn't work for me in 18.04
[14:59] <mgedmin> concept10: you said "not rebooting since I cant ..." and I misunderstood
[14:59] <kiriuha> grub
[15:00] <mgedmin> grub is pain (but better than lilo)
[15:00] <concept10> mgedmin ioria Success!!  I beileve the culprit is workspaces-to-dock@
[15:00] <ioria> oky
[15:00] <kiriuha> oky
[15:01] <kiriuha> t\/top
[15:01] <concept10> Now I can get off the mac and back onto ubuntu :)
[15:01] <kiriuha> (:
[15:01] <kiriuha> ):
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> kiriuha  it works, we see you
[15:02] <kiriuha> connectilg
[15:02] <concept10> mgedmin ioria thanks again
[15:02] <kiriuha> fish
[15:03] <blankhart> i am having trouble with libGL finding drivers for a locally compiled app.  glxgears works and LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose shows that it finds the drivers under /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so
[15:03] <blankhart> however, the app fails looking for them under /run/opengl-driver/lib/dri/i965_dri.so
[15:03] <u0_a1595> db
[15:03] <sybariten> in general terms, should i be able to log in over ssh, do user/group changes, close down the connection come back and then it has taken effect?
[15:04] <blankhart> i manually created symbolic links but then it fails again, apparently looking for underlying shared object files.  any thoughts?
[15:04] <u0_a1595> fh
[15:05] <u0_a1595> connect
[15:05] <kiriuha> help ne
[15:05] <kiriuha> help me
[15:05] <leftyfb> !ru | kiriuha
[15:05] <u0_a1595> me
[15:06] <kiriuha> !ru | ubottu
[15:06] <leftyfb> !op | u0_a1595 please ban all of u0_a*!*@*
[15:08] <kiriuha> connect
[15:08] <leftyfb> kiriuha: please stop
[15:08] <kiriuha> connect ssh 192.168.1.87
[15:08] <leftyfb> !op | kiriuha
[15:09] <jmgb4> Strange
[15:15] <IntelCore> he try con and ban ops. omg
[15:15] <kristian2709_> SlidingHorn: nobody is talking in #maas, could you help me?
[15:16] <SlidingHorn> kristian2709_: I'm not familiar at all with MAAS - You can feel free to ask your question again in here - It's been buried...try to include as much detail in one line as possible :)
[15:19] <kristian2709_> I am getting this error. "mount: mounting https://images.maas.io/ephemeral-v3/daily/bionic/amd64/20180426.2/squashfs on /root failed: No such device". What I basically want is to pxe boot the ephemeral image from a custom pxe server. My kernel is "https://images.maas.io/ephemeral-v3/daily/bionic/amd64/20180426.2/ga-18.04/generic/boot-kernel", initrd is "https://images.maas.io/ephemeral-v3/daily/bionic/amd64/2018042
[15:19] <kristian2709_> 6.2/ga-18.04/generic/boot-initrd" and cmdline args "root=https://images.maas.io/ephemeral-v3/daily/bionic/amd64/20180426.2/squashfs ro". Am I missing something?
[15:19] <guest-zgnsqt> lost
[15:20] <leftyfb> kristian2709_: that is most certainly a #maas issue
[15:20] <leftyfb> kristian2709_: or #ubuntu-server
[15:20] <guest-zgnsqt> haha
[15:20] <leftyfb> guest-zgnsqt: can we help you with something?
[15:20] <guest-zgnsqt> why so?
[15:20] <kristian2709_> lefttyfb: gonna try #ubuntu-server. #MAAS is quiet
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> guest-zgnsqt  this is the ubuntu supportchannel
[15:21] <guest-zgnsqt> whats mean by HexChat
[15:21] <guest-zgnsqt> how can i use that
[15:22] <guest-zgnsqt> ?????
[15:23] <IntelCore> Hexchat is xchat Nexgen
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> s/hes gone
[15:24] <IntelCore> it just another vers of xchat, after xchat changed
[15:24] <longword> To be fair, he was left waiting almost a full minute for an answer
[15:24] <IntelCore> So, if nano ctrl-O, it write 36 lines and 'saved' my file?
[15:25] <SlidingHorn> IntelCore: yes
[15:25] <IntelCore> thks
[15:27] <csed> Hey. So I just set up a 18.04 server VM that uh, doesn't let me change the hostname. Neither hostnamectl, /etc/hostname or hostname actually works. Just resets itself after a reboot.
[15:27] <csed> Any uh, magical new thing that I need to change?
[15:28] <IntelCore> vm in, save a host file?
[15:29] <csed> Sorry, what? You mean change /etc/hostname, or?
[15:29] <IntelCore> be sure that server saved host
[15:30] <csed> It did. It shows up in hostnamectl, and in /etc/hostname. Then it gets reset after a reboot.
[15:30] <IntelCore> did a reboot and reloaded vm server.
[15:31] <csed> I rebooted the VM, yes. Not the hypervisor.
[15:32] <IntelCore>  was it a forced reboot ? and was it in maintenance mode when you booted it ?
[15:33] <csed> Nope. Just a regular # reboot that I did.
[15:33] <IntelCore> on ocal disk? or vm on another?
[15:33] <IntelCore> *Local
[15:34] <csed> On the VM itself, yeah.
[15:34] <leftyfb> csed: you edited /etc/hostname , rebooted and it was reverted?
[15:35] <csed> leftyfb: Yeah. Before that I tried it with hostnamectl set-hostname and a reboot, and after that I tried it with just a # hostname and a reboot.
[15:35] <leftyfb> https://websiteforstudents.com/updating-changing-the-hostname-on-ubuntu-18-04-beta-server/
[15:35] <IntelCore> askubuntu.com/questions/517744/hostname-keeps-being-reverted
[15:37] <leftyfb> both of the answers in that last link are they wrong way to go about it
[15:37] <IntelCore> is 14.04, is old
[15:38] <csed> leftyfb, IntelCore: Yeah. preserve_hostname was the problem. Worked now, thanks. So uh, don't remember choosing a cloud install. Is this just a default on a standard server install now, or?
[15:38] <leftyfb> they're not relevant to csed's issue
[15:38] <leftyfb> csed: I think it is
[15:39] <csed> Alright, good to know. Thanks for the help.
[15:39] <IntelCore> askubuntu.com/questions/875276/revert-prevent-hostname-change
[15:40] <IntelCore> that 16.04
[15:41] <IntelCore> my lap top is hp, and i5 4core. but, i dunno why, this hypervisor is said not to apply to this laptop
[15:45] <leftyfb> IntelCore: the issue csed was having only pertains to 18.04 and cloud-init. Your last link also doesn't apply
[15:45] <IntelCore> I dunno if VTx is set, or can be set in my bios
[15:45] <leftyfb> IntelCore: what VM are you trying to use and for what type of guest?
[15:45] <IntelCore> leftyfb, ok.
[15:46] <IntelCore> leftyfb, no it is the HP laptop designed that way, i think
[15:46] <leftyfb> IntelCore: you haven't answered either of my questions
[15:47] <kiriuha> yes hp
[15:47] <IntelCore> leftyfb i do not know if I have even the ability to enable virtualization (VTx) on this pc
[15:47] <leftyfb> kiriuha: please stop
[15:47] <leftyfb> IntelCore: you still haven't answered either of my questions
[15:47] <name> there is no 'try lubuntu' option when I boot the installer
[15:48] <leftyfb> name: correct
[15:48] <name> according to google there is meant to be one
[15:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> IntelCore: generally speaking, laptops tend to not have vtx/vtd.
[15:48] <kiriuha> qwr respberry pi
[15:48] <NoImNotNineVolt> IntelCore: unless you're got a cadillac of a laptop.
[15:48] <IntelCore> wheeew
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> IntelCore  type   sudo apt install kvm-ok && kvm-ok
[15:49] <name> https://launchintolinux.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/lubuntu21.jpg
[15:49] <leftyfb> IntelCore: what VM are you trying to use and for what type of guest?
[15:49] <SlidingHorn> name: that's from 2012
[15:49] <tomreyn> name: it's not during boot, it's once boot has completed and you're on the desktop
[15:49] <IntelCore> wine?
[15:49] <name> wait are you saying I can't try it before installing it
[15:49] <IntelCore> I read where this laptop can't do hypervisor
[15:50] <leftyfb> IntelCore: wine is not a hypervisor
[15:50] <IntelCore> ok kool leftyfb
[15:50] <tomreyn> name: yes you can. which uubntu release are you referring to?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> IntelCore  make that    sudo apt install cpu-checker && kvm-ok
[15:51] <IntelCore> no thanks MonkeyDust.
[15:51] <leftyfb>  IntelCore what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[15:51] <name> 18.4
[15:52] <IntelCore> leftyfb, I was just saying that this laptop and hypervisor, I thought, from reading.. don't mesh
[15:52] <leftyfb> IntelCore: So you don't actually need support?
[15:52] <tomreyn> name: so you downloaded the Lubuntu desktop installer for 18.04, you boot it up full y until the desktop shows, and there is no prompt about whether you want to install or try it?
[15:52] <IntelCore> name - have a usb stick? ubuntu 16.04?
[15:53] <name> nope it jus says install
[15:54] <leftyfb> IntelCore: how does having a usb stick with Ubuntu 16.04 help name with getting the live session working with Lubuntu 18.04?
[15:54] <tomreyn> name: hmm maybe that's special about lubuntu then, i have not tried it. but if it boots up to the desktop you can just ignore the installation prompt and start using the desktop, tright?
[15:54] <IntelCore> leftyfb - I ran live session from usb, so maybe lubuntu will do that
[15:54] <name> I mounted the lubuntu ISO to USB using rufus
[15:55] <name> now when I boot it the first things I see are 'install lubuntu' 'test memory' 'help' 'repair a system'
[15:55] <name> I dont know its its a desktop
[15:56] <name> its like the pic above
[15:56] <tomreyn> name: what's the ISO file you downloaded called?
[15:56] <leftyfb> IntelCore: if you're going to provide suggestions, please pay attention to what people are looking for help with
[15:56] <name> lubuntu-18.04-alternate-amd64.iso
[15:56] <leftyfb> name: it's the alternate installed
[15:56] <leftyfb> that won't have the live session on it
[15:56] <name> oh..
[15:56] <leftyfb> installed/installer*
[15:57] <name> ill try the regular one then thanks
[15:59] <IntelCore> Twice have come to get help, been ignored, or had to find solutions myself. you know?
[16:01] <pragomer> when creating a link to a document (odt) via drag and drop to ubuntu 18.04 gnome desktop, the link isnt valid anymore after reboot, because the file is stored on my synology nas (via nfs) and the share isnt automounted.
[16:01] <pragomer> when mounting the share via nautilus the links does not work anymore
[16:01] <pragomer> it says that it is not a valid link
[16:02] <pragomer> and this isnt fixable
[16:02] <techpriest> Hello, it's my first time trying out Ubuntu ;)
[16:02] <pragomer> any ideas?
[16:03] <leftyfb> pragomer: maybe use ln to create a symlink
[16:04] <leftyfb> pragomer: other than that, maybe create a .desktop file
[16:04] <chzbacon> hey all, could someone here maybe help me out with ubuntu core?
[16:05] <chzbacon> i'm having a heck of a time trying to login.
[16:05] <leftyfb> chzbacon: you might have better luck in #snappy
[16:05] <leftyfb> chzbacon: https://askubuntu.com/questions/848422/how-do-i-login-to-ubuntu-snappy-core
[16:06] <leftyfb> chzbacon: https://developer.ubuntu.com/core/get-started/raspberry-pi-2-3
[16:09] <arensj> Why is my package that I uploaded to a ppa failing to build? Here is my control file https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/g8xShZ2ySR/ and the build log https://launchpadlibrarian.net/370523388/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-i386.tacoshop_1.0ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz  Its literally a c++ program that prints a line of text. It builds locally with make and debuild just fine.
[16:11] <nacc> arensj: 1) you are eliding most of your control file; 2) this is offtopic for this channel (IMO); 3) most likely your binary package does not specify the dependencies it needs at runtime.
[16:11] <arensj> nacc: which channel would be better? something more debian?
[16:11] <nacc> arensj: building with make is not really useful in this case, as it's `dpkg-buildpackage` that's failing (building the deb not building the binary shipped by the deb)
[16:12] <nacc> arensj: #ubuntu-packaging (iirc)
[16:12] <pragomer> ok, ill try it with a desktop file. thank you so much
[16:12] <chzbacon> thanks leftyfb
[16:12] <mgedmin> arensj: you can test building locally with pbuilder, that'll uncover problems like missing build depends
[16:13] <nacc> I would recommended sbuild over pbuilder, but that's just preference
[16:13] <nacc> or use a LXD and just build with dpkg-buildpackage
[16:13] <arensj> mgedmin: ack, thanks
[16:14] <mgedmin> I think sbuild is harder to setup?  I don't remember why I went with pbuilder
[16:14] <nacc> mgedmin: it's a bit more funky, but i think there is a wiki page
[16:16] <francisv> mancman3: pragmaticenigma:  I managed to enter to the new installation of Ubuntu by adding the 'nomodeset' when booting.  This installation was done along the previous upgraded 18.04 Ubuntu I had.  Where can I read about the options of the 'linux' command?  I checked the GNU GRUB documentation, but I see no 'nomodeset' there.
[16:18] <yuppie_> hello
[16:18] <yuppie_> im having a hell of a time getting copy/paste to work in tmux
[16:18] <francisv> I want to learn what exactly does 'nomodeset' and what are the consequences when starting Ubuntu always with that option
[16:18] <yuppie_> anyone have a config for vi keybinds?
[16:18] <SlidingHorn> yuppie_: like a cheat sheet?
[16:19] <yuppie_> yeah that would be nice
[16:19] <yuppie_> im on tmux 2.1
[16:19] <pragomer> creating and working with a desktop-file has the same (non-working) effect
[16:19] <yuppie_> and i get a lot of different blogs with different commands
[16:19] <SlidingHorn> yuppie_: here's a short one - www.atmos.edu/daes/atmclasses/atm350/vi_cheat_sheet.pdf
[16:20] <yuppie_> thanks but the link is down
[16:20] <jmgb4> Blah vi, why not just use nano
[16:20] <yuppie_> not sure cheat sheet is the right word
[16:20] <yuppie_> i need a config that has working tmux vi keybinds
[16:22] <dodo> #ubuntu -rs
[16:23] <dodo> #ubuntu-rs
[16:28] <francisv> I need to boot my Ubuntu 18.04 with 'nomodeset'.  How do I configure that in a persistent mode?
[16:28] <francisv> The file /etc/default/grub is empty
[16:31] <J3kyl> francisv: What are you trying to do?
[16:31] <nacc> francisv: it definitely should not be empty. are you on an Intel/AMD system?
[16:32] <J3kyl> try running sudo update-grub
[16:32] <nacc> J3kyl: why would that be relevant here?
[16:32] <francisv> J3kyl: My Ubuntu does not boot normally.  When I boot it, I type 'e' in GRUB and add 'nomodeset' to the 'linux' command
[16:33] <francisv> nacc: This is an Intel system
[16:34] <francisv> J3kyl: oh yes, it is not empty
[16:34] <nacc> francisv: ok, then definitely /etc/default/grub should not be empty. Did you delete it or something?
[16:34] <francisv> no, it is not empty
[16:34] <francisv> that was my bad
[16:35] <nacc> francisv: ok, then it's just a matter of editing the file (as root) adding nomodeset to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT (iirc) and running `sudo update-grub`
[16:35] <francisv> so, in the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, does it make a difference where I add 'nomodeset'?
[16:35] <nacc> francisv: no it doesn't matter
[16:37] <francisv> ok, I will try
[16:37] <francisv> where can I see the documentation of what exactly 'nomodeset' does?
[16:37] <francisv> the info documentation of GRUB does not talk about it
[16:38] <matjam> it tells the kernel to not use framebuffer for the console
[16:39] <nacc> francisv: it's not a grub paramter, it's a kernel parameter
[16:39] <matjam> so, it uses character modes available in the video card
[16:39] <francisv> ah
[16:39] <francisv> interesting
[16:39] <matjam> framebuffers use the svga modes that are supposed to be supported by all cards but it can sometimes cause problems with X
[16:39] <alpkaan35> i need help
[16:40] <francisv> where can I find the documentation for the kernel Ubuntu 18.04 uses?  that would be Kernel 4.15.0-20-generic
[16:40] <francisv> well, I think Google knows
[16:40] <francisv> where
[16:40] <alpkaan35> I need help about Ubuntu Dual Boot Menu
[16:40] <nacc> francisv: what kind of documentation?
[16:41] <francisv> where I see the nomodeset option
[16:41] <francisv> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.15/index.html
[16:41] <matjam> there's mention of it in https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/5924bbecd0267d87c24110cbe2041b5075173a25/Documentation/EDID/HOWTO.txt
[16:41] <francisv> not there
[16:41] <matjam> grep for nomodeset
[16:41] <nacc> francisv: it's in the source
[16:41] <francisv> ah
[16:41] <alpkaan35> Can someone help
[16:41] <matjam> !patience | alpkaan35
[16:41] <francisv> thank you nacc, matjam
[16:41] <matjam> alpkaan35: just ask your question
[16:42] <nacc> matjam: tbh, i don't think it has to do with the framebuffer exactly. It's about letting the kernel do modesetting or not
[16:42] <gb\> any pragmatic, recent advice on setting up your hard drive partitions for ubuntu?  i know i need a swap...
[16:42] <J3kyl> alpkaan35: what’s the issue?
[16:42] <matjam> nacc: I think you're right, based on what I just read :P
[16:42] <gb\> everything i find is 8 years old and im kinda leaning towards putting everything on one partition
[16:42] <alpkaan35> How do I switch to use Windows' Boot Selector
[16:42] <matjam> nacc: a lot of stuff you learn over the years is more like magic incantations with no understanding of what it does :P
[16:42] <nacc> matjam: :)
[16:42] <J3kyl> what you got installed?
[16:42] <J3kyl> and in which mode?
[16:43] <gb\> "erase disk and install ubuntu" ??
[16:43] <tomreyn> gb\: how will you be unsing this installation? desktop / server, one or many users? do you have plenty of RAM?
[16:43] <gb\> server
[16:43] <gb\> 4gb ram
[16:43] <gb\> its an old computer
[16:43] <alpkaan35> Oh
[16:43] <gb\> it will run mostly openvpn and samba
[16:44] <alpkaan35> I have a issue about Windows
[16:44] <alpkaan35> I know how to fix it
[16:44] <matjam> alpkaan35: You'd need to restore/repair the Windows bootloader, I am not sure how to do that. I think if you google for it you will find some information.
[16:44] <alpkaan35> But I can't because of Ubuntu Boot Selector
[16:44] <matjam> alpkaan35: does Ubuntu not allow you to boot windows?
[16:45] <alpkaan35> Yes
[16:45] <matjam> there should be an option in your menu
[16:45] <alpkaan35> But it gets freezes
[16:45] <matjam> so it does not boot windows from GRUB?
[16:45] <alpkaan35> When I try to boot using a troubleshooting option selected
[16:45] <tomreyn> gb\: for servers you wont need to suspend to disk, so you will reall yonly need swap when your ram runs full, if you want to use it for this purpose. alternatively, you can have the oom killer kick in then.
[16:46] <matjam> I'm confused, I thought you'd only get one option for windows
[16:47] <alpkaan35> Yes
[16:47] <matjam> so what happens when you select the Windows option?
[16:47] <tomreyn> gb\: personally i tend to not use swap or just very little, but i often use software raid and disk encryption, too, so that's a good reason not to. if you don't, and if you have fast storage i/o swapping when ram runs full is probably a good idea.
[16:47] <alpkaan35> It starts normal
[16:47] <matjam> ok and what happens when you select the normal Ubuntu option?
[16:47] <alpkaan35> The screen glitches (which is normal)
[16:47] <alpkaan35> Then it freezes
[16:47] <alpkaan35> Ubuntu option works
[16:47] <matjam> so you cannot boot Ubuntu
[16:47] <matjam> hiadefhiopgaeirugv
[16:48] <matjam> ok I need coffee I can't handle this
[16:48] <tomreyn> gb\: swap can go to a swap file system, or to a swap file on a different fiel system (meaning you don't have to have a separate partition for it)
[16:48] <alpkaan35> I asked here because it's about Ubuntu's boot selector
[16:48] <matjam> alpkaan35: Windows does not boot, Ubuntu boots fine, yes?
[16:48] <alpkaan35> Yes like that but listen
[16:49] <tomreyn> gb\: other than that all the old recommendations still apply: separate boot, var and home partitions often make sense on servers.
[16:49] <alpkaan35> Windows doesn't boot when I select a troubleshooting option
[16:49] <alpkaan35> Otherwise it works as normal
[16:49] <matjam> So both ubuntu and windows boot fine from normal option, but if you boot windows, then in the windows boot loader, choose troubleshooting?
[16:50] <matjam> I'm consfued, dude you need to really kind of explicitly explain what steps you're doing
[16:50] <alpkaan35> Yes I use a troubleshooting option
[16:50] <matjam> maybe take some pictures
[16:50] <alpkaan35> from Advenced Options
[16:50] <matjam> what advanced options? Grub's?
[16:50] <alpkaan35> Wait it will take some time I'll take pictures
[16:50] <alpkaan35> bye
[16:50] <matjam> ok
[16:50] <matjam> I'll get coffee.
[16:56] <alpkaan35> Ok I got the pictures
[16:57] <alpkaan35> Is anyone online
[16:59] <alpkaan35> hi
[17:02] <thealtoid> Hello. How to disable mouse acceleration on a touchpad? I've succesfully disabled it for normal mouse and for trackpoint on my laptop, but for some reason I'm struggling with the touchpad. Neither "AccelProfile" "flat" nor "AccelSpeed" "-1" work.
[17:05] <matjam> thealtoid: if you're able to figure out which hid driver it is, there may be a kernel module parameter you can add when it loads
[17:08] <thealtoid> matjam: I have to say, that seems pretty complicated for what it's worth.
[17:09] <supahfly> i installed ubuntu but it wont boot i played efi settings to no avail
[17:10] <supahfly> any reason it would just have a cursor flashing and no boot?
[17:10] <matjam> thealtoid: it can be easier, but I assumed you tried the easy stuff :-)
[17:11] <thealtoid> I mean, if in 2018 you have to install external software to disable your acceleration on a mouse, and it's apparently not easily done on a touchpad, there is something wrong...
[17:11] <matjam> I don't disagree
[17:12] <matjam> but linux doesn't control the hardware, and there's a lot of developers out there that contribute their time to developing drivers
[17:12] <matjam> and not all developers have had time to implement the APIs needed for GUI config stuff to work nicely together with their driver
[17:12] <matjam> it's all volunteers
[17:12] <thealtoid> matjam: for some reason, I don't think the problem is in the kernel driver at all.
[17:12] <matjam> for the most part
[17:12] <matjam> thealtoid: you may be right
[17:13] <matjam> It could be the xorg configuration
[17:13] <thealtoid> It's in braindead handling of input devices in desktop environments. It can't be anywhere else.
[17:13] <matjam> you'd be surprised
[17:13] <JimBuntu> thealtoid, try Option "AccelerationScheme" "none" as well.
[17:13] <tomreyn> !details | supahfly
[17:13] <thealtoid> JimBuntu: let's try that one.
[17:13] <matjam> thealtoid: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/392749/mouse-touchpad-acceleration-disabling-not-working
[17:14] <matjam> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
[17:14] <supahfly> im trying to install it again i might have missed something
[17:14] <supahfly> it used to work just fine
[17:14] <matjam> supahfly: try adding nomodeset to the kernel parameters in grub
[17:15] <tomreyn> supahfly: Ubuntu version? hardware information?
[17:15] <SimonNL> choki stop PMing me
[17:15] <supahfly> its a latitude e6510 laptop
[17:16] <tomreyn> SimonNL: there's no one here by this name
[17:16] <supahfly> unbuntu 18.04 lts
[17:16] <SimonNL> sorry tomreyn didn't know would go to all servers I'm on
[17:16] <thealtoid> JimBuntu: nope, same result.
[17:17] <JimBuntu> thealtoid, given the time, you rebooted, right?
[17:17] <thealtoid> JimBuntu: I am using webirc on a different machine. Yes, I rebooted.
[17:17] <supahfly> i brb i delete all partitions and try again
[17:19] <tomreyn> supahfly: if it's this one, you may need to boot with 'nomodeset' due to nvidia. http://www.dell.com/us/en/business/notebooks/latitude-e6510/pd.aspx?refid=latitude-e6510&s=bsd&cs=04
[17:20] <supahfly> it has intel graphics unfortunately
[17:20] <supahfly> solid little machine though
[17:21] <tomreyn> supahfly: the one i pointed to has both intel and nvidia graphics
[17:22] <supahfly> ty @tomreyn checking out the link
[17:22] <supahfly> that is indeed the laptop
[17:22] <supahfly> and how do i do no mode set
[17:22] <tomreyn> !nomodeset
[17:25] <supahfly> ty guys ur so helpful i have no idea i primarily use windows
[17:31] <sla3k> Hi there, I was having issues where my /boot directory was filling up with various kernel versions. I've now removed them and ran 'sudo apt autoremove' followed by 'sudo update-grub'. Most of the images are gone from /boot but I still see alot of "initrd.img-4.4.0-XX-generic" files. Is it safe to remove these from /boot manually or is there any other preferred way?
[17:31] <sla3k> I am using Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[17:31] <enyc> sla3k: i'd be checking on "dpkg -l | grep linux-image-" list.. are the packages REALLY gone?
[17:32] <enyc> sla3k: in some cases the entry will start 'rc' (removed but config files left)
[17:32] <enyc> sla3k: in witch case dpkg -P linux-image-[...]  should remove package completely
[17:33] <sla3k> enyc: ahh, yea some are having initial rc and some have ii, yet some have rH
[17:33] <sla3k> What does this 'ii' and 'rH' mean anyways
[17:34] <enyc> sla3k: ii = fully installed
[17:34] <enyc> sla3k: iH = half-installed apparently
[17:35] <enyc> sla3k: dpkg -P  will let you 'purge' an 'rc' package.   (or apt-get --purge autoremove back in the first-place)
[17:35] <sla3k> So I am guessing if I don't need them, I should remove them all but the one that is currently in use..
[17:35] <enyc> sla3k:   "dpkg --configure -a"   may help to prompt configuring half-installed packages
[17:35] <SimonNL> and keep one to fall back to if needed
[17:36] <SimonNL> sla3k: ^
[17:36] <enyc> sla3k: definitely try to sort it out at the package-system-level first.   IF you have completely purged package,  and you are SURE the initrd is now left-over  you can remove it manually (you may also have /lib/modules/VERSION ) as well.....
[17:36]  * enyc +1 to SimonNL   -- you definitely want 2 "ii" 'ed kernels that work.
[17:37] <sla3k> Right, thanks for the heads up guys. I'll keep atleast 3 in case.
[17:37] <sla3k> s/3/3 ii packages
[17:37] <SimonNL> thats not needed
[17:38] <sla3k> Yea, not needed but good to have in case something messes up.
[17:38] <enyc> sla3k: "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii"  will show you all packages that aren't just "fully installed" -- can be useful.
[17:39] <Nebi> Hi there
[17:39] <LOLOL> :hi
[17:39] <LOLOL> :cowsay test
[17:39] <LOLOL> :part
[17:40] <LOLOL> :lol
[17:41] <Nebi> Unfortunately I have a major freeze issue wheen rebooting. And currently I have no clue what it is. I was trying to install the right lib for something. And at the end I tried removing them from /usr/lib
[17:41] <Nebi> but I have not touched other libraries
[17:42] <Nebi> Whiel rebooting it now completely freezes before the login-screen
[17:42] <ioria> Nebi, go in recovery
[17:42] <Nebi> Hello, ioria
[17:43] <Nebi> ioria, this time I don't think I did sth extremely stupid as last time.
[17:43] <Nebi> ioria, root shell?
[17:43] <ioria> Nebi, yes
[17:43] <Nebi> ioria, ok im in
[17:44] <ioria> Nebi, mount -o remount,rw /
[17:44] <ioria> Nebi, pay attention, now you are root
[17:45] <Nebi> ioria, yes ok done
[17:45] <ioria> Nebi, so, what you did exactly ?
[17:45] <Nebi> ioria, i wanted to use the latest version of libprotobuf
[17:46] <ioria> Nebi,  from a .deb pkg, or what ?
[17:46] <Nebi> ioria, I follwed guidelines in the internet. apt removed the one in the apt. Installed it correctly. protoc --version said the right version. Python nand conda, too. But while launching an application it said that the version was not the right one
[17:47] <Nebi> ioria, no i uninstalled the pkg one because it only supports an old version
[17:47] <ioria> Nebi,  how did you install it ?
[17:47] <Nebi> ioria, in the end i made locate libprotobuf
[17:47] <Nebi> ioria, and then went to /usr/lib  and made rm -rf libprotobuf*
[17:47] <Nebi> ioria, this was the alst thing I did
[17:48] <ioria> Nebi,  how did you install it ?
[17:49] <Nebi> ioria, ok I installed it in 4 ways. First downloading the linux package. Unzipping and copiying the files to locations according tot he guidelines. Then i pip install and conda install with the required versions - unisntalling the old ones first. And in the end I also tried to download another c++ package to comile it myself
[17:49] <ioria> Nebi,  dpkg -l | grep libprotobuf
[17:50] <Nebi> ioria, three entried. all version 2.6. I think this is because in the very end i apt installed again when I had the freeze thinking that it is because of that
[17:50] <Nebi> ioria, but version 2.6 is super old. He was telling me I had version 3.1 even though I installed version 3.5.1
[17:51] <ioria> Nebi,  is the pkg name libprotobuf9v5  ?
[17:52] <Nebi> ioria, libprotobuf-dev:amd64, libprotobuf-lite9v5:amd64, and libprotobuf9v5:amd64
[17:52] <ioria> Nebi,  preceded by 'ii'  or what ?
[17:52] <Nebi> ioria, yes all three times
[17:52] <ioria> Nebi,  you are on xenial right ?
[17:53] <Nebi> ioria, yes
[17:53] <ioria> Nebi,  apt install --reinstall libprotobuf-dev:amd64  libprotobuf-lite9v5:amd64  libprotobuf9v5:amd64
[17:54] <ioria> Nebi,  without :amd64, sorry
[17:55] <Nebi> ioria, ok done
[17:55] <ioria> Nebi,  dpkg --configure -a
[17:56] <Nebi> ioria, ok - no response
[17:56] <supahfly> ty for helping me before i got it to work
[17:56] <supahfly> ty ty ty
[17:56] <ioria> Nebi,  try exit and resume
[17:57] <ioria> brb
[17:57] <Nebi> ioria, ok im rebooting
[17:57] <Nebi> ioria, freeze at reboot again
[18:02] <ioria> Nebi,  if you can open a tty, you can check logs and stuff
[18:03] <Nebi> ioria, yes I have terminal and am trying to find out
[18:03] <Nebi> ioria, the other libraries are for example in /usr/lib so I did not accidentally del them
[18:03] <Nebi> ioria, I was rather quite carefully this time
[18:04] <Nebi> ioria, also intersting is that protoc --version still tells me that I have 3.5.1
[18:05] <Exterminador> so, it's been a while that Im' trying to fix this issue, but no success until now. my laptop only works on recovery mode. using normal boot it starts throwing errors which i dont remember now (basically i don't have UI with normal boot). i'd like to "hear" all the available ideas and possible ways to debug/solve this
[18:05] <ioria> Nebi,  so the system is working, just the gui freezes ?
[18:06] <Nebi> ioria, it seems so yes. I also dont see any error message as the last line in the loading (when not 'quite') is something that is OK
[18:06] <ioria> Nebi,  what happen if you restart lightdm ?
[18:06] <ioria> *s
[18:07] <Nebi> ioria, just "restart lightdm"? says: unabel to connect
[18:08] <Nebi> ioria, failed to connect to system bus: failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such fiel or directory
[18:08] <sla3k> !pastebin
[18:08] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: we're going to need more info than that to try to diagnose...specific error messages, relevant log entries, maybe an   inxi -Frz   output to start?
[18:09] <ioria> Nebi,  sudo service lightdm restart  (from the console)
[18:11] <sla3k> Okay, I managed to remove most of the kernels and associated files/dependencies before ..81-generic. I have a question here, when I do 'uname -r' it shows me '4.4.0-81-generic' but 'linux-image-generic' in the pastebin shows '4.4.0.124.130'. Which kernel version is being used and if it is 81 then why the generic image shows it's 124.130...if that makes sense?
[18:11] <Nebi> ioria, ah ok it went to loading. [ OK ] Started Braille Device Support. And now it is blinking. At least it didnt freeze entirely.
[18:11] <sla3k> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gxYYVdyMFM/
[18:11] <gb\> guys i just tried to install ubuntuo on two identical machines
[18:11] <ioria> Nebi,  and check if you have root owned file in /home/user
[18:11] <gb\> it installed great on one, the other is giving me a "could only find i686 processor" error when installing
[18:11] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nc5Bc659Jp/ -- the inxi -Frz output
[18:12] <gb\> they are both identical HP compaq dc7100 CMT (PC926A) with Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz CPUs
[18:12] <Nebi> ioria, rebooting...
[18:12] <gb\> guys i just tried to install ubuntuo on two identical machines, it installed great on one, the other is giving me a "could only find i686 processor" error when installing, they are both identical HP compaq dc7100 CMT (PC926A) with Intel Pentium 4 2.8Ghz CPUs.  same installation media.   any advice?
[18:12] <gb\> same bios revision
[18:12] <doug16k> gb\, you have a P4 whose RTC battery hasn't corroded a hole in the motherboard? :D
[18:13] <gb\> the battery was dead on this one
[18:13] <gb\> but i changed it out
[18:13] <gb\> i have two more motherboards i can swap out
[18:13] <gb\> but then i gotta deal with replacing thermal paste etc
[18:13] <gb\> so im trying to figure out wtf is going on with this install cuz it is not an i686 cpu ...
[18:13] <Exterminador> I'm going to reboot into normal mode
[18:13] <Nebi> ioria, how can I see root owned files?
[18:14] <ioria> Nebi,  ls -al
[18:15] <doug16k> gb\, exactly which pentium 4 2.8GHz? this says no 64 bit support -> https://ark.intel.com/products/27447/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-2_80-GHz-512K-Cache-533-MHz-FSB
[18:15] <doug16k> i686 basically means "not x86-64"
[18:15] <gb\> oh
[18:15] <Nebi> ioria, I dont see the entire output but there are. there is .wajig and .xsessionrc and the rest I currently dont see
[18:15] <gb\> how is is that this distro just installed on the exact same sister machine
[18:16] <gb\> literally sitting beside it
[18:16] <gb\> https://puu.sh/Anmuh/461fd154f7.jpg
[18:16] <doug16k> gb\, different microcode possibly? compare bios revision. or different cpu
[18:16] <gb\> same bios rev
[18:16] <gb\> checked
[18:16] <gb\> yeah maybe it is a diff cpu
[18:16] <gb\> ive' got 2 more mobos
[18:17] <gb\> i just wasn't counting on having to swap them out
[18:17] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: anything more? I'm booting into normal mode now and I'm getting the usual errors that prevents me from having GUI
[18:17] <gb\> going to check the other machien now
[18:17] <gb\> but if this same installed worked, then it obv has a 64 bit machine
[18:17] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: knowing what those errors are will be a step in the right direction
[18:17] <gb\> er, cpu
[18:18] <Nebi> ioria, ah I see now how to scroll here
[18:18] <ioria> Nebi,  ls -al  | more
[18:18] <Nebi> ioria, more root files: .dbus . Thats it. Only these three files
[18:19] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: what I have in /var/log/ dir is: auth.log, btmp, gpu-manager.log, kern.log, syslog wtmp and Xorg.0.log. which do you want me to paste?
[18:19] <ioria> Nebi,  chown them, and sudo rm -rif  .dbus
[18:19] <doug16k> gb\, some P4 processors do have 64-bit, some don't
[18:19] <gb\> is there any way i can tell by looking at the mobo
[18:20] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: well you said "I'm getting the usual errors that prevents me from having GUI" - What were those?
[18:21] <Nebi> ioria, ok done
[18:22] <ioria> Nebi,  sudo service lightdm restart
[18:22] <doug16k> gb\, do you have a live cd (perhaps older distro than what you are attempting to install) which can boot on it? if so, boot that and in terminal, `cat /proc/cpuinfo`
[18:23] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: I'll paste a dmesg output in a bit
[18:23] <Nebi> ioria, it tries withoutsuccess. there is a failure: "Failed to start Light Display Manager see... for details
[18:24] <Nebi> ioria, I tried to insert that command but didnt work
[18:24] <Nebi> ioria,  'systemctl status lightdm.service brings two OKs and thats it - no mroe infos
[18:24] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/snjsvJXwS2
[18:25] <ioria> Nebi,  sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[18:25] <Exterminador> that's the dmesg output
[18:25] <gb\> i have two of these currently, are these 32 or 64 bit?  these are my spare mobos: https://puu.sh/AnmLW/f3ed51fada.jpg
[18:26] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: what *exactly* was the message you saw that you said "prevents me from having GUI"?  You still haven't told me.
[18:27] <Nebi> ioria, I tried and dont have internet. I restarted and clicked in recovery window on "enabel networking". but there is an error message: grub /etc/resolv.conf: no such file or directory
[18:27] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: I just see lots off errors
[18:27] <gb\> booting up other machien to check CPU info
[18:27] <Nebi> ioria, this time I really didn't touch the grub
[18:28] <Exterminador> don't know what of them (they appear pretty fast). I have no idea of what's going on
[18:28] <doug16k> gb\, I think this is the one for your cpu pic, https://ark.intel.com/products/30764/Intel-Pentium-4-Processor-520521-supporting-HT-Technology-1M-Cache-2_80E-GHz-800-MHz-FSB  (it is not 64 bit)
[18:29] <gb\> http://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SL/SL7PR.html
[18:29] <ioria> Nebi,  don't you have connection in console ?
[18:29] <gb\> alright so i just happened to be lucky and have 1 64 bit machine
[18:29] <gb\> details coming in a sec, it is booting
[18:29] <Nebi> ioria, I dont think so
[18:30] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: are you given a login prompt?  Graphical?  CLI?
[18:30] <ioria> Nebi, why ? nm starts at boot
[18:31] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: nothing of that. I need to ctrl+alt+f2 to go to tty2.. the screen stays black
[18:31] <Nebi> ioria, i dont know it should work. I tried now ping askubuntu.com > ping: unknown host askubuntu.com
[18:31] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: okay - let me see your Xorg.0.log and syslog (2 separate pastes, please)
[18:32] <gb\> so im not seeing 64 bit on this cat /prod/cpuinfo
[18:32] <gb\> uploading imagine
[18:32] <gb\> image
[18:32] <Exterminador> alright
[18:32] <gb\> https://puu.sh/AnmZ8/1bc557f589.jpg
[18:32] <Nebi> ioria, sudo apt update also gives fetching errors
[18:32] <gb\> so this is (obviously) the one that it installed and boots on, with the same installation media
[18:33] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn, syslog -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/s8TW2RVN4d/
[18:34] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn, Xorg log -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sP58tNvs4M/
[18:35] <ioria> Nebi, i suspect you are still in recovery mode
[18:35] <Nebi> ioria, I am. But I clicked on enable networking - with the above mentioned error messages
[18:35] <doug16k> gb\, 48 bit virtual address gives it away. that's what x86-64 has
[18:35] <ioria> Nebi, nope, reboot and login in console
[18:36] <Nebi> ioria, Ok Ill try but it usually hangs so that I cannot get out
[18:36] <doug16k> gb\, (address sizes)
[18:36] <ioria> Nebi, press Esc
[18:36] <gb\> uname -m spits out "x86_64"
[18:36] <thealtoid> matjam, JimBuntu: I was actually setting the AccelProfile in a wrong section. Turns out it works perfectly fine. I am sorry for wasting your precious time for a retard and fuckup like me.
[18:37] <R13ose> How do I move files from one mnt to another mnt?  I tried mv but they are staying in the mnt I don't want them in.  Any ideas?
[18:37] <gb\> so lets say these machines are intended to fail over to each other, or moreover, i turn one on and the other off
[18:37] <doug16k> gb\, that might indicate the distro's target architecture, not the hardware capability though
[18:37] <Nebi> ioria it hangs when I press Esc, it also hangs when i do shift+F1
[18:37] <gb\> ah, doug16k, it is the exact same USB key
[18:37] <R13ose> I am in command line
[18:38] <gb\> maybe ill go grab the 32 bit version?
[18:38] <Nebi> ioria, I mean it cannot prevent the hanging
[18:38] <JimBuntu> thealtoid, everyone makes mistakes. I almost asked you to pastebin the file as a whole, not doing so was my mistake. Also, we try to keep this room family-level safe in re to the language ;-D
[18:38] <gb\> you guys figure it is best to just put 32 bit version on both?
[18:38] <gb\> re: maximum compatibilty/config/etc between both
[18:38] <Nebi> ioria, in that state only the poweroff button reacts
[18:39] <doug16k> gb\, should work. if you have <= 4GB of RAM, the 32 bit version is fine
[18:39] <gb\> yeah its 4gb ram
[18:39] <gb\> i can also just swap this 64 bit proc out with one of my two spare mobos which are showing 32 bit
[18:39] <doug16k> even with more, PAE will let it use more
[18:39] <SporkWitch> i imagine software support is going to start being an issue, if it's not already; everything's been 64bit for some time now
[18:39] <gb\> physical address extesion
[18:39] <SlidingHorn> !nomodeset | Exterminador try this. See also /msg ubottu nvidia
[18:39] <gb\> im just thinking from a redundancy point of view
[18:40] <gb\> extra motherboards: https://puu.sh/AnndP/4502a3de13.jpg
[18:40] <ioria> Nebi,  remove quiet splash from the kernel line
[18:40] <robh71> mysql_secure_installation appears to NOT set the root pw on Ubuntu 18. Anybody have any info? Thanks
[18:41] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn, I'll try that right away
[18:41] <SporkWitch> robh71: i think if it already has one set it doesn't prompt for it? think i remember it asking you to set one the last time i installed mysql, but that was a long while ago (i normally use postgres)
[18:41] <Nebi> ioria (it also comes to my mind that I updated gcc and g++ to version 8. But I think that I did some restarts before without issues)
[18:42] <Nebi> ioria, ok I removed quiet splash and it stucks again at black screen
[18:42] <robh71> Mysql now doesn't prompt for a password, you set. it with the secure command
[18:42] <SporkWitch> robh71: (as in it asked as part of the install, not the secure_installation script after)
[18:42] <robh71> but then it doesn't work
[18:42] <Nebi> ioria, couldnt see what was last item
[18:42] <robh71> right I hear ya, that's how it was on previous versions
[18:43] <Nebi> ioria, shall I try again?
[18:43] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[18:44] <Nebi> ioria (btw there are in theory also many packages to update. I became since last time more careful and didnt want to upgrade again in order not to mess up with the linux kernel. I now very selectively updated packages)
[18:44] <ikonia> R13ose: if there was thoughts, people would have responded
[18:45] <R13ose> Okay sorry
[18:45] <doug16k> R13ose, do you have sufficient permission to move them? does mv report an error?
[18:46] <Nebi> ioria, Ok I tried again with quite splash and only saw that the last items were all green/ok. "started... sth" was the last one
[18:46] <nacc> R13ose: did mv give you an error? mounts aren't really relevant, you are just moving files around
[18:46] <SlidingHorn> R13ose: on top of what doug16k asked - what are the filesystem types?
[18:46] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: nomodeset allowed me to boot normally. I'm going to try to install the Nvidia drivers now
[18:47] <R13ose> doug16k: yes I am logged in as root and no errors.
[18:47] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: great! good luck
[18:47] <ioria> Nebi,  when the system halts, can you open a tty ?
[18:47] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: after installing the Nvidia drivers, should I remove nomodeset from the grub configuration?
[18:48] <Nebi> ioria, no absolutely nothing goes except the pwoeroff-button. Shift F1 or esc or ctrl-alt-del nothing works
[18:48] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: if you made the change at the grub menu, it was only temporary for this boot
[18:49] <Nebi> ioria, the 'input line' is also not blinking but just frozen
[18:49] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: I've edited /etc/default/grub and then ran update-grub
[18:49] <doug16k> R13ose, what does this command output: which mv
[18:49] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: ah, then yes, you'll want to remove nomodeset after you're finished
[18:50] <gb\> i imagine there will be no ubuntu 18 LTS 32 bit version
[18:50] <gb\> :(
[18:50] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: I'll try that for sure :) will you be around?
[18:50] <R13ose> SlidingHorn: one is ext4 and the other is vfat
[18:50] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: if I don't fall asleep, I should be here
[18:51] <R13ose> doug16k: /bin/mv
[18:51] <ioria> Nebi,  reboot in recovery
[18:52] <R13ose> If I could get networking working, I could move files from Linux to Windows no problem
[18:52] <nacc> ugb\: you should use a flavor (lubuntu) that opted to keep 32-bit support
[18:52] <Exterminador> okay. Nvidia drivers installed, edited grub, removed the nomodeset, and updated it. now, time to reboot
[18:52] <doug16k> R13ose, I just tried mv from ext4 to vfat, worked as expected
[18:52] <nacc> gb\: you should use a flavor (lubuntu) that opted to keep 32-bit support
[18:52] <Vashmeed> hey guys
[18:52] <Vashmeed> I need some help
[18:53] <Vashmeed> I installed ubuntu 18.04 LTS on my laptop and every time i wake up the laptop from hibernation i get a black screen and the computer wont respond
[18:53] <doug16k> gb\, yeah, lubuntu is probably more appropriate for an older machine anyway
[18:53] <nacc> R13ose: please use a pastebin, show the exact command youused and output
[18:53] <Nebi> ioria, ok im in recovery
[18:53] <Vashmeed> so I need to manuaally reboot it to get it to work
[18:53] <ioria> Nebi,  stat /home/myuser | grep Access
[18:54] <R13ose> Networking is not working on the machine.  If this was, I would move through Internet which is faster
[18:54] <doug16k> gb\, once that is installed you can probably apt install stuff to be more like the main distro anyway, like the desktop
[18:54] <nacc> R13ose: why would you move files on the network if they are local disks?
[18:55] <nacc> gb\: keeping in mind, there is an active discussion going on right now on the future of 32-bit on the ML
[18:55] <nacc> (ubuntu-devel/ubuntu-devel-discuss, iirc)
[18:55] <R13ose> nacc: I am moving from one machine to another through usb key at the moment which is too slow.
[18:55] <Vashmeed> Can anyone help me out with my hibernation wake up issue?
[18:56] <nacc> R13ose: ... I would be relatively surprised if moving over usb is slower than moving over network, unless you have a very slow usb key and a very fast network
[18:56] <Nebi> ioria, Access: (0700/drwx-----) Uid: (1000/   username) Gid:  (1000/   username)
[18:56] <SlidingHorn> !patience | Vashmeed
[18:56] <nacc> R13ose: in any case, you've not actually provided error messages or anything to indicate what is going wrong
[18:56] <Nebi> ioria, Access: 2018-05-16 and time
[18:56] <Vashmeed> Okay
[18:56] <ioria> Nebi,  no, i mean the permissions
[18:56] <SlidingHorn> Vashmeed: please provide the output of    inxi -Frz   in a pastebin
[18:57] <Exterminador>  SlidingHorn: unfortunately, I was sent to the same black screen. and the same output that I've posted
[18:57] <Exterminador> this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/snjsvJXwS2 abou
[18:57] <Nebi> 0700/drwx-------
[18:57] <Nebi> ioria, you mean that?
[18:58] <gb\> hey guys, i think i am going to go with debian 32 bit
[18:58] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: can you show me the inxi command again?  I want to see if it's trying to load the nvidia driver
[18:58] <gb\> rip out the 64 bit CPU from this machine
[18:58] <gb\> stick identical CPUs in both
[18:58] <R13ose> nacc: I know but I don't see an error just the files are staying there and not moving.  Like I am doing copying and not moving
[18:58] <gb\> run them as failover cluster
[18:58] <Vashmeed> SlidingHorn: https://pastebin.com/gT8cXtyB
[18:58] <ioria> Nebi,  yes, it's wrong should be 775 (for your user)
[18:58] <nacc> R13ose: so they are showing up on the destination?
[18:58] <gb\> nacc - where can i follow this discussion?
[18:58] <doug16k> gb\, 64 bit cpu can run 32 bit OS just fine, no need to rip out
[18:58] <gb\> i just want to be able to swap one of my emergency MOBOs in when one dies
[18:58] <Nebi> ioria, how can I change?
[18:58] <ioria> Nebi,  sorry, 755
[18:58] <nacc> gb\: the mailing list archives? lists.ubuntu.com
[18:58] <Exterminador>  SlidingHorn: right away
[18:59] <R13ose> nacc: yes but I want to move them not copy so I am not copying the same files all the time.
[18:59] <nacc> R13ose: use rsync?
[18:59] <ikonia> how is any of this anything to do with the #ubuntu channel gb\ ?
[18:59] <tomreyn>  dsvfd
[18:59] <R13ose> nacc: that is copying still?
[18:59] <nacc> R13ose: it will not copy the 'same files' all the time
[18:59] <Exterminador> erm. it's not even changing again to tty2
[18:59] <nacc> R13ose: and *again*, you aren't showing us any evidence of what is happening
[19:00] <R13ose> nacc: how can I show you if I have no internet or errors showing up?
[19:00] <nacc> R13ose: screenshots on phone, etc.
[19:00] <nacc> R13ose: that's at least one option, I'm sure there are others. Why don't have you networking?
[19:01] <R13ose> nacc: I don't know.  When I try to get Internet online this fails.
[19:01] <Nebi> ioria, chmod 755 ?
[19:01] <SlidingHorn> Vashmeed: i think this might be what you're experiencing: launchpad bug 1759860
[19:01] <ioria> Nebi,  chmod 755 /home/myuser
[19:01] <nacc> R13ose: what is "Internet online"?
[19:02] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: any of the other TTYs working?
[19:02] <doug16k> ioria, R13ose said they were root
[19:02] <ioria> Nebi,  check also the ownership (the Uid and Gid i  mean)
[19:02] <ioria> doug16k, sorry ?
[19:03] <R13ose> nacc: ifconfig eth0 up or ifconfig wlan0 up does nothing
[19:03] <nacc> R13ose: do you have them configured properly in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:03] <doug16k> ioria, oh sorry, mixing up conversations
[19:03] <ioria> doug16k, ok ^_^
[19:03] <ikonia> ifconfig eth0 up ?? something is wrong here
[19:03] <ikonia> this isnot a standard ubuntu install if you're even looking at that sort of thing
[19:03] <nacc> ikonia: indeed.
[19:04] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xr3PYPXv3B
[19:04] <ikonia> R13ose: what distro is this exactly
[19:04] <R13ose> Ubuntu
[19:04] <ikonia> ubuntu what
[19:04] <nacc> `lsb_release -sd`
[19:04] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: yeah, it attempted to load the nouveau driver again, which isn't what we wanted...just a sec
[19:05] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: when you installed the nvidia drivers, everything went successfully, right?
[19:05] <Nebi> ioria, sorry that it took so long - the computer went crazy and I had to reboot. OK did chmod. 0700/drxw.... isnt this the same?
[19:05] <Nebi> ioria ahh again
[19:05] <R13ose> 18.04
[19:05] <user|24614> caw
[19:05] <user|24614> hey
[19:05] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: yes. I installed it via Software & Updates without no issues
[19:06] <ioria> Nebi,  you maybe forgot to remount rw
[19:06] <ikonia> R13ose: so as I understand it you have booted into recovery mode/shell
[19:06] <ikonia> R13ose: what is the actual problem with your install booting normally
[19:06] <Nebi> ioria, true. sorry
[19:06] <ioria> Nebi,  mount -o remount,rw /
[19:06] <R13ose> I don't know might be hardware issues.
[19:06] <ikonia> R13ose: why do you think that ?
[19:07] <Exterminador> SlidingHorn: and I'm quite sure it was marked there has the graphics driver in use
[19:07] <R13ose> Because the booting gets stuck.
[19:07] <ioria> Nebi,  and i need to see the full output of   stat /home/myuser | grep Uid
[19:07] <ikonia> why do you think that's hardware ?
[19:07] <ikonia> and where does it get stuck R13ose
[19:07] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: SlidingHorn What driver did get installed - if any/additional - ? ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia '
[19:07] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: just a sec
[19:08] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: SlidingHorn What driver did get installed - if any/additional - ? ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[19:08] <R13ose> Because someone said after looking at smartctl was hardware failure
[19:08] <ikonia> R13ose: ok - so if you know it's hardware failure, why are you messing around, get replacement hardware
[19:08] <compdoc> hard drives die all the time
[19:08] <R13ose> I am trying to move files before I do that.  Once I do that I will get a new computer
[19:09] <Nebi> ioria, ok i mounted, chmod and stat. Output: Access: (0700/drwx-------) Uid: (1000/    username)  Gid: (1000/    username)
[19:09] <ikonia> R13ose: you want to copy files
[19:09] <ikonia> R13ose: not move them
[19:09] <Nebi> ioria, this was the entire output
[19:09] <ioria> Nebi,  chmod 755 /home/myuser
[19:09] <user|24614> wats good terminal based irc klient for ubuntu
[19:09] <Vashmeed> SlidingHorn: Thanks for your help, I tried kernel 4.17 rc5 and hibernation is fixed. However, my graphics are a bit laggy (laptop has discrete graphics), could I be doing something wrong? (This issue existed separately from the hibernation issue)
[19:09] <R13ose> Fine, copy.  I think through internet is faster because the usb key is so small
[19:10] <Exterminador> Bashing-om, SlidingHorn http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hKyg8R9HS9/
[19:10] <Nebi> ioria, I did this before. Sorry he got crazy again.
[19:10] <ikonia> R13ose: no, back them up locally to a local disk
[19:10] <R13ose> I am trying to back them up to another laptop
[19:10] <ioria> Nebi,  what you mean 'got crazy' ?
[19:10] <ikonia> R13ose: don't use the network
[19:10] <ikonia> R13ose: use a simple disk, usb for example
[19:11] <SlidingHorn> Vashmeed: That I'm not sure about - could be a trade off with the newer kernel.
[19:11] <R13ose> ikonia: I said the usb key is too small
[19:11] <ikonia> R13ose: then buy a bigger one
[19:11] <Vashmeed> SlidingHorn: it existed on lower kernels as well, whats the proper way to get nvidia drivers installed nowadays?
[19:11] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Old old hardware ? pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' so we can confirm the proper driver .
[19:11] <ioria> Nebi,  in the worse case,   adduser newuser  and reboot
[19:11] <Nebi> ioria, well after a while in the recovery shell promt, the recovery window pops up again. But it is visible but not really on. Actually you cannot click but only type as if there is still a shell. But Im not logged in in my username anymore. And now for exampel he also doesnt accept my password anymore. but also other things cannot be done
[19:12] <SlidingHorn> !nvidia | Vashmeed
[19:12] <Vashmeed> SlidingHorn: I'll check it out, thanks!
[19:12] <tomreyn> R13ose: there's another option: get the new computer first, then attach the old disks to it (either internally via sata, or via e-sata or usb), then copy the data.
[19:12] <Budgii> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 18.04 LTS takes more memory? I loaded it up on VirtualBox with 2 gigs a ram and its very slow.
[19:12] <ioria> Nebi,  in recovery you are Root
[19:13] <Nebi> ioria, I made 'login' and then to user
[19:13] <ioria> Nebi,  why ?
[19:13] <Nebi> ioria, because commands like ls didnt react
[19:13] <SlidingHorn> Budgii: 2 GB ram isn't much at all - Are you still using the Budgie desktop like you were earlier?
[19:13] <ioria> Nebi,  i lost you
[19:14] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: laptop is from 2009 I guess (Acer Aspire 5738ZG) -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z9tpVbkwFP/
[19:14] <Budgii> SlidingHorn, yes I am still using Budgie Desktop. I know 2 isn't a lot, but windows 7 runs just fine on 2 in virtual box. It is extremely delayed in click response on two. I'm trying to decide if my computer with 6 is a good fit for Ubuntu 18.
[19:15] <Nebi> ioria, Ok sry I realized now that it was stupid.
[19:15] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: lemme go checking .. presently you do not have nvidia driver loaded " configuration: driver=nouveau " .
[19:15] <Nebi> ioria, tryinfg the previous steps again
[19:17] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: what should I do to load it then? :)
[19:17] <sasho199> Does someone know how to change the active video card? I accidentally changed it via a gui but now the gui does not run
[19:18] <Nebi> ioria, Ok I repeated the steps. Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: (1000/   myusername) Gid: (1000 /   myusername) . Thats all
[19:19] <ioria> Nebi,  reboot
[19:19] <SlidingHorn> Budgii: while I don't think you'll have any problems running a Budgie desktop with a full 6GB, you might also want to look into LXDE & XFCE for some lightweight environments.  I've heard (anecdotal) claims that Budgie has its bugs, and it doesn't quite have the reputation as the other two yet, as it's still new.
[19:19] <ioria> Nebi,  if it stucks, try to open tty
[19:20] <Nebi> ioria, stucks and no way to open tty
[19:20] <Budgii> SlidingHorn, I am on Budgie 17. What i'm wondering if Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is going to run smoothly on this machine. I just changed the RAM allocation to 4GB and it's still quite slow.
[19:21] <ioria> Nebi,  reboot recovery and check logs
[19:21] <Exterminador>  Budgii: I run Xubuntu 18.04 in a machine with 4Gb of RAM from 2009 and it runs quite smoothly :)
[19:21] <SlidingHorn> Budgii: I've never used it personally.  If you're machine has 6GB of RAM and you're assigning 4GB to a VM, you're not exactly running an optimal setup.  Usually you would allocate half at most to a VM
[19:21] <Nebi> ioria, ok. which logs?
[19:22] <ioria> Nebi,  Xorg.0, dmesg, lightdm  and syslog
[19:22] <Budgii> Exterminador, I used to run Xubuntu around 2015 and was very happy with it! I only had a problem where I would get stuck on the loading screen, an eternal wheel.
[19:22] <SlidingHorn> Exterminador: (I didn't forget about you - Just seeing if Bashing-om goes the same route I was going...you're in good hands)
[19:22] <Exterminador>  Budgii: things have changed! give it a try again ;)
[19:23] <Exterminador>  SlidingHorn: that's what I thought ;)
[19:23] <sept> test
[19:23] <Budgii> SlidingHorn, I know 4 was a bit over the center threshold but I thought i'd try it to see if it made a difference.
[19:23] <sept> hey
[19:23] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: confirmed that the 340 driver is correct .. - is nomodeset set in grub ' cat /proc/cmdline ' ? ? else let's try from terminal ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[19:24] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: nope, nomodeset isn't there. I'll try the next tip now
[19:26] <ioria> Nebi,  stat / | grep -i uid
[19:27] <Nebi> ioria (i have difficulties because the recovery window pops up again and I cannog navigate well.)
[19:27] <Nebi> ioria in x.org.0 log I saw it ended something with gpu
[19:28] <ioria> Nebi,  stat / | grep -i uid
[19:28] <Nebi> ioria, "Access: (0755/drwxr-r-xr-x) Uid: ( 0 / root)  Gid: (0/  root)
[19:29] <gb\> ikonia - this started with me not being able to install 64 bit ubuntu because of an i686 error message, i came here looking for advice on this, turns out that I have two identical machines with different processors, so i cam here looking for advice ikonia, would you prefer I leave?  am I upsetting the delicate balance of this chanenl?  can you suggest another channel or are you generally just
[19:29] <gb\> being curious or trolling?
[19:29] <ioria> Nebi,  that's ok... did you install some video drivers ?
[19:29] <ikonia> gb\: neither, you've moved on from your problem to "I'm considering installing debian"
[19:29] <gb\> i figure if i'm looking to install and failover 2 identical ubuntu installations, where else do i come ask?
[19:30] <gb\> ikonia you shoud know a lot about where i am with my problem
[19:30] <ikonia> gb\: only what you've posted into the channel
[19:30] <gb\> because I am considering going with 16LTS 32 bit until this 32 bit thing gets worked out as per NACC
[19:30] <gb\> thats where the conversation ended
[19:30] <gb\> perhaps you weren't paying attention?
[19:30] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: all the steps have been done. no errors to report. what's the next thing to do? reboot?
[19:30] <gb\> at that point you questioned what this had to do with #ubuntu
[19:31] <Nebi> ioria, well I did not install nvidia drivers like last time. But I was trying to install programs that are linked to graphics. Caffe, opencv and so on
[19:31] <gb\> my last question is where I can look up developments about 18.04 actually supporting 32 bit
[19:31] <ikonia> 18:58 < gb\> hey guys, i think i am going to go with debian 32 bit
[19:31] <gb\> that was at 18:58
[19:31] <gb\> quit trolling
[19:31] <gb\> with all due respect
[19:31] <gb\> thanks anyway
[19:31] <Nebi> ioria, last linkes of x.org.0: some unloadmodules; then NVIDIA(GPU-o= deleting GPU-0, then server terminated swuccessfully
[19:31] <ikonia> gb\: no-one is trolling, your last statement was you're thinking of going with debian
[19:31] <oerheks> gb\, so what is your issue really? install 16.04 lts 32 bit then?
[19:32] <ikonia> and at that point I asked what this has to do with ubuntu any more
[19:32] <gb\> oerheks - not sure where to go from here
[19:32] <ikonia> and why you're considering putting 32bit on 64bit compute resource for "compatibility" I don't understand
[19:32] <gb\> because iwant two identical machines i can fail over
[19:32] <Nebi> ioria, /var/log/dmesg : only says: (NOthing has been logged yet)
[19:32] <ikonia> gb\: what are you using for a "fail over" approach
[19:32] <ikonia> technology wise
[19:32] <ioria> Nebi,  grasping at straws
[19:32] <gb\> no sure yet
[19:32] <gb\> it could be me turning one off and turning the other on
[19:33] <ikonia> so then how do you konw you need two identical machines
[19:33] <Nebi> ioria, Im sorry :(
[19:33] <gb\> that's why i am here having the conversatoin
[19:33] <gb\> do you understand now?
[19:33] <icee> gb\: IMO it's pretty dumb to deploy 32 bit x86 today
[19:33] <gb\> yeah but the hardawre i have is the hardware i have
[19:33] <icee> gb\: i understand the desire to make some old machine in the closet work or whatever
[19:33] <oerheks> 2 identical machines now, so what would be the problem ?? >> <gb\> rip out the 64 bit CPU from this machine <gb\> stick identical CPUs in both
[19:33] <ikonia> gb\: I understood before, hence why I asked what this had to do with ubuntu when you stated you wanted to use debian 32bit
[19:33] <ikonia> gb\: you don't need identical hardware
[19:34] <ikonia> gb\: what are the services these machines host ?
[19:34] <gb\> samba and openvpn
[19:34] <gb\> would the underlying libraries be different fo each OS
[19:34] <ioria> Nebi,  the last thing you did ?
[19:34] <gb\> like it is going to grab the x64 .. .stuff.. from apt-get ?
[19:34] <ikonia> it's fine if one is 32bit and one is 64bit
[19:35] <ikonia> gb\: it sounds like you actually just want a warm standby
[19:35] <gb\> all the .conf files will be the same etc?
[19:35] <icee> gb\: you can install 32 bit userland stuff with :i386 or whatever
[19:35] <gb\> yes, warm standby
[19:35] <gb\> that sounds nice
[19:35] <ikonia> gb\: so you need 2 machines running, and you need to sync the appropriate data betwen them
[19:35] <Nebi> I was tryingf to install a machien learning software that uses opencv, caffe and others. Until now these weeks my gpu with uda was working and I also could install opencv. This software today gave me some headachs the whole day. I tried compiling it and had several errors. Step yb step I got further. FOr example by adding a -pthread flag to compiling. Later by upgrading my gcc and g++ to version 8.
[19:35] <gb\> yeah
[19:35] <ikonia> one can be 64 bit the other 32 bit, no problem
[19:35] <gb\> but no 32 bit 18.04 LTS
[19:35] <Nebi> ioria, before the freeze I tried this lib problem
[19:35] <gb\> :(
[19:35] <ikonia> samba, will just be the data needs syncing, openvpn will need the certificates
[19:35] <ioria> Nebi,  details, please
[19:35] <Nebi> ioria, i made rm -rf libname
[19:36] <icee> gb\: the world's moved on from x86-32, maybe stick with 16.04 LTS or another dist or whatever.
[19:36] <ioria> Nebi,  what libs ?
[19:36] <gb\> yeah thts where im like.. debian?
[19:36] <gb\> but then someone said they are looking at doing 32 bit 18.04
[19:36] <icee> gb\: it's unreasonable for everyone else to do a bunch of work supporting something ancient
[19:36] <ioria> Nebi,  you should know you cannot rm lib random
[19:36] <ikonia> no-one is looking at doing 32bit
[19:36] <Nebi> ioria, rm -rf libprotobuf
[19:36] <Nebi> ioria, rm -rf libprotobuf*
[19:36] <gb\> fair enough, i get that
[19:36] <Nebi> ioria in /usr/lib/
[19:37] <Nebi> ioria, yes because I was trying to kill the old version
[19:37] <gb\> just figured the whole linux thing was about breathing new life into capable hardware now that everything is bloated
[19:37] <ioria> Nebi,  i made you reinstall those
[19:37] <ikonia> nothing is "bloated"
[19:37] <leftyfb> gb\: that's not the "whole linux thing"
[19:37] <Nebi> ioria, maybe vbecause I upgraded gcc and g++ to 8?
[19:37] <gb\> welp ur moving on from my hardware, i get it
[19:37] <gb\> thanks guys
[19:37] <Nebi> ioria, before the crash I downgraded it again
[19:38] <leftyfb> gb\: you don't need to put 32bit on the 64bit machine
[19:38] <Nebi> ioria, in the sense that I selectred lower version
[19:38] <gb\> leftyfb - but what do i put on the 32 bit machine?
[19:38] <leftyfb> gb\: you're only mirroring 2 services configs across 2 machines
[19:38] <Nebi> ioria, when i hit gcc --version it says 5.4 - because one of the problems I had then suddendly said that version 8 was too much
[19:38] <Budgii> Exterminador, I brought that computer home from work just now and connected to fiber optics. The hard drive is a lot faster and the VM is running good now!
[19:38] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: something knocked my router dowm .. current status on your end ?"
[19:38] <Nebi> ioria, so OK I put it down again to the previous one which was 5.4
[19:38] <icee> gb\: any reason to not run 16.04?
[19:38] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: that kind of solved my problem. I have a different issue now. I'm trying to upload a photo of the computer screen now
[19:38] <leftyfb> gb\: Do you need this "failover" because you fear old hardware dying?
[19:38] <gb\> nope i just.. see that 18 is current.. and i am not sure how long 16 will be supported for?
[19:39] <ioria> Nebi,  Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.9
[19:39] <leftyfb> gb\: April 2021
[19:39] <gb\> leftyfb - i'd like to be able to reboot and work on one while the other serves
[19:39] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: now it looks like this: https://imgur.com/YI9QkJF
[19:39] <gb\> oh thats plenty of time then
[19:39] <ioria> Nebi,  ?
[19:39] <leftyfb> gb\: sounds like you don't need failover, you just need a machine to play with
[19:39] <Nebi> ioria, Ubuntu 4.4.0-124-generic 16.04
[19:39] <icee> gb\: i wouldn't deploy 18.04 in production yet anyways, usually you wait for the first maintenance release (18.04.1)
[19:39] <gb\> yeah i need to be able to take 4 hours to image one, or run database maintenance, etc..
[19:40] <leftyfb> gb\: if you need failover, might I suggest something like running your services in docker
[19:40] <gb\> i will write this down
[19:40] <leftyfb> gb\: or LXD images
[19:40] <gb\> thank you
[19:40] <leftyfb> they could be on the same machine
[19:40] <sasho199> Can someone help with checking which is the active video card from the terminal?
[19:40] <gb\> i saw LVM images
[19:40] <leftyfb> that's not the same thing
[19:40] <gb\> LVM shoudl make it faster to ghost the drives
[19:40] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: any idea why the Nouveau drivers don't work with me?
[19:40] <ioria> Nebi,  the gcc --version
[19:40] <gb\> right now im using clonezilla and it takes forever
[19:40] <gb\> esp testing the restores etc
[19:41] <Nebi> ioria, as when the last crash occured: I stopped upgrading because it seems to freeze it too
[19:41] <ioria> Nebi,   gcc --version
[19:41] <gb\> i do daily diff backup but my once a month imaging is bringing down the file server for too long
[19:41] <leftyfb> gb\: Again, I think you should look into docker or LXD. Creating GB's of images is a really silly way of backing up live servers
[19:41] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: that could still be the grahic's driver ( or hardware ) . ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' .
[19:41] <Nebi> ioria, ahh sorry yes Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.9
[19:41] <gb\> leftyfb - wrote em down
[19:41] <gb\> will do some googling
[19:41] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: just a sec pls
[19:41] <gb\> i like the idea of floating servicse that run wherever
[19:42] <gb\> i think i am gonig about this the wrong way
[19:42] <gb\> thanks again all
[19:42] <leftyfb> gb\: basically, your host should be pretty vanilla and irrelevant and just be able to run the docker or lxd image or the like .... then you don't need multiple machines, of you if you do, it doesn't matter what they're running for a distro as long as it supports what I've mentioned
[19:43] <leftyfb> gb\: that said, none of this is going to work great or at all on a 32bit machine
[19:43] <ioria> Nebi,   grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:43] <Exterminador> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WJS6VpTRZ2/
[19:43] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: reading.
[19:44] <leftyfb> gb\: if money is tight, might I suggest a Raspberry Pi. That way your backups are an 8GB SD card
[19:44] <Budgii> Exterminador, just trolling :)
[19:44] <Nebi> ioria, deb cdrom: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS _Xenial Xerus_ - Release amd64 (20170215.2)] / xenial main restricted
[19:44] <SlidingHorn> sasho199:    inxi -Fz | pastebinit
[19:44] <ioria> Nebi,  and your kernel is 4.4 ?
[19:44] <Nebi> ioria, yes
[19:45] <ioria> Nebi,  you should be already on 4.13 , but it's another issue
[19:46] <Nebi> ioria, but when I upgraded it froze, so I stopped
[19:46] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: System sees no faults there in the log file . this is 18.04 ? what DE  ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' ?
[19:46] <ioria> Nebi,  if you cannot login in console , you need to boot a livecd, so you can paste logs
[19:46] <oerheks> Exterminador, i have the same laptop, runs fine with nouveau
[19:47] <oerheks> 3758G
[19:48] <ioria> Nebi,  and stick with the repos pkgs
[19:48] <Exterminador> oerheks: why the heck mine doesn't? any idea? :x
[19:48] <sasho199> SlidingHorn: I ran it without the pastebinit because I dont have it, but on graphics cards I am gettings both
[19:49] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: that outputs an empty line
[19:49] <SlidingHorn> sasho199: what version and flavor OS are you running?
[19:50] <Nebi> ioria, ok means I have to create a bootable usb I guess
[19:50] <sasho199> SlidingHorn: I think I found the answer
[19:50] <oerheks> Exterminador, curious indeed, there is no option to set intel/nvidia in the bios
[19:50] <sasho199> SlidingHorn: Thanks for your responce
[19:51] <ioria> Nebi,  i'am leaving, but mount the root partition under /mnt  , cd and expore them
[19:51] <Exterminador> in the current status, the laptop freezes a lot
[19:51] <oerheks> mine freeses 5-8 sec after login, until desktop is read ( and wireless, and dropbox)
[19:51] <Nebi> ioria, what do you mean?
[19:52] <oerheks> you might want to do a memtest86 run
[19:52] <Exterminador> mine with nouveau drivers don't even shows the login screen (only the splash screen). with Nvidia, well, it has lots of stripes in the screen and keeps blinking/freezing constantly
[19:52] <Nebi> ioria you mean not to use a bottable usb but to copy the root partition to a usb?
[19:53] <ioria> Nebi, nope,  mount your partition in /mnt , cd /mnt/var/log, an check
[19:53] <Nebi> ioria ok ill do. thank you very much for your help
[19:53] <ioria> Nebi, no problem
[19:54] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Something is hosed in the Xserver on your system as " sysop@x1804mini:~$ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE >> x11 " in my ise case .
[19:54] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: any further ideas?
[19:54] <RonaldsMazitis> how to I increase partition size with gparted
[19:54] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[19:54] <RonaldsMazitis> it does not allow me to use unallocated space
[19:55] <leftyfb> RonaldsMazitis: step #1, don't do this from the running operating system. Use a live CD.
[19:55] <RonaldsMazitis> yeah I'm from livecd
[19:55] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: step #ß, take backups
[19:55] <tomreyn> #0
[19:55] <leftyfb> ^
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Yeah,, lemme get it all together .
[19:56] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: do you have backups, too?
[19:56] <RonaldsMazitis> damn thing is barely moving
[19:56] <RonaldsMazitis> yeah
[19:56] <leftyfb> RonaldsMazitis: barely moving?
[19:56] <Exterminador> tty2 works well tho (no stripes, no blinking, nothing)
[19:56] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: what is barely moving?
[19:56] <RonaldsMazitis> gparted is slowly opening
[19:56] <leftyfb> RonaldsMazitis: I thought you said it doesn't allow you to use the unallocated space
[19:57] <RonaldsMazitis> yes
[19:57] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Konda keeps the finger pointed at the Xserver package - huh ?
[19:57] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: maybe it would be faster if you ran it from a usb key. can you show a screenshot where it doesn't let you partition the unallocated space?
[19:58] <RonaldsMazitis> I'm trying to increase partition in my virtual box
[19:58] <leftyfb> :/
[19:59] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: do you need anything from /etc/X11 to being pasted?
[19:59] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Anything we can use from ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg ' .
[20:01] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: I've ran the command. no output given.
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: maybe reboot and see if there was an efect " the-phigh flag, Using that forces it to autodetect. " .
[20:03] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: right away
[20:04] <Exterminador> what I find weird, is that the splash screen doesn't show stripes neither
[20:05] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: but they're back in the login screen
[20:05] <Exterminador> the laptop freezes for long periods of time (perhaps my graphics are completely dead?
[20:06] <RonaldsMazitis> https://ibb.co/kK6Oqd
[20:06] <RonaldsMazitis> what now
[20:07] <RonaldsMazitis> I do swapoff
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: untill the GUI loads the system is using the system driver rather then nouveau or nvidia .
[20:07] <RonaldsMazitis> still can
[20:08] <RonaldsMazitis> 't increase partition size
[20:08] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: And my experience with nvidia card . yep will freeze if the system is not happy with the GUI driver .
[20:08] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: any more magical ideas? or should I just reinstall 16.04 and stick with it?
[20:09] <RonaldsMazitis> leftyfb:
[20:09] <RonaldsMazitis> tomreyn: https://ibb.co/kK6Oqd
[20:10] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: also, stupid question. the "nomodeset" doesn't interfere with booting Windows or it does? I can't boot to Windows neither (same problem I had previously with Xubuntu).
[20:10] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Oh, 16.04 is that nuclear solution .. I am more than willing to try and find out the issue in 18.04 if ya got the time and inclination to troble shoot .
[20:11] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: I installed 18.04 as beta .. and never went back to 16.04 .. as 18.04 performs much the better on my old system.
[20:11] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: just tell me what to do. ;)
[20:12] <RonaldsMazitis> https://technology.amis.nl/2017/01/30/ubuntu-vm-virtualbox-increase-size-disk-make-smaller-exports-distribution/
[20:12] <oerheks> Exterminador, such issues as stripes at login sounds like a memory issue
[20:12] <oerheks> you might want to do a memtest86 run
[20:12] <RonaldsMazitis> this article tells me I just need to deactivate partition, but there is no button to do it
[20:13] <Exterminador>  oerheks: memory as ram?
[20:13] <Exterminador> never went above 2Gb from the 4Gb available iirc
[20:13] <oerheks> Exterminador, yes, as this machine shares memory
[20:14] <oerheks> ( with GPU that is)
[20:14] <oerheks> laptop from centrino-age, i was surprised it runs ubuntu so well, incl youtube
[20:15] <SyfiMalik> package manager isn't working. is there a way to change mirrors?
[20:15] <Exterminador>  oerheks: and how do I check that?
[20:16] <oerheks> SyfiMalik, yes, type 'sources' in dash and the update tool pops up, you can change it there
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Good boy ! I am always for the learning experience . let's 1st make sure that the package manager in not aware of any issues ' sudo dpkg -C ; sudo apt -f install ' .
[20:17] <Mavericks> hello what's the permission level 0765 represent ?
[20:17] <oerheks> Exterminador, run memtest from grubmenu or from live iso
[20:17] <RonaldsMazitis> I can't delete sda2
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: oerheks Knows his stuff also :) .. good advice to get the ram verified .
[20:18] <SyfiMalik> --- mirrors.nayatel.com ping statistics ---
[20:18] <SyfiMalik> 6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5005ms
[20:18] <SyfiMalik> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 28.922/34.502/39.499/3.897 ms
[20:18] <oerheks> Mavericks, http://permissions-calculator.org/decode/0765/
[20:18] <RonaldsMazitis> https://askubuntu.com/questions/175174/why-cant-i-increase-the-size-of-sda1-using-gparted
[20:18] <RonaldsMazitis> anyone
[20:18] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: dpkg -C gave no output. apt -f install says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[20:18] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[20:19] <Exterminador> I'm going to see that memtest now
[20:19] <oerheks> RonaldsMazitis, post the output of sudo fdisk -l # this shows where partitions start/end ( in blocks) ... there isn EXTENDED partition in between..
[20:20] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: All good then .. package manager is happy .
[20:21] <oerheks> as sda seems an empty disk, wipe and start over ?
[20:21] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: For the memtest- ya want at least 3 passes .. may take a while :)
[20:21] <SyfiMalik> installing from ubuntu software is okay but from terminal it doesnt work
[20:21] <Exterminador> erm. how do I do that? :x
[20:22] <RonaldsMazitis> https://ibb.co/cXFrAd
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: from either the liveUSB or the install grub ( advanced) boot menu choose "memtest" .
[20:23] <RonaldsMazitis> there is ubuntu on sda1
[20:23] <Exterminador> I think I've disabled those memtest options with grub customizer
[20:23] <Mavericks> oerheks: thank you so much
[20:23] <RonaldsMazitis> I just can't increase space I need for updates and other stuff
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Boot a live environment to the boot menu .
[20:26] <RonaldsMazitis> I can only create new partition, can't increase size of old
[20:26] <Bashing-om> RonaldsMazitis: Got to have the free space adjacent to what/where you are expanding .
[20:27] <RonaldsMazitis> but there is free space
[20:27] <RonaldsMazitis> unallocated 2,74 gb
[20:28] <Bashing-om> RonaldsMazitis: what is the file system on the partition that you are expanding ?
[20:29] <RonaldsMazitis> ext4
[20:30] <Exterminador> lovely! I can't even boot the live USB (black screen)
[20:33] <Exterminador> alright, I've pressed ESC key while booting, and went to test memory
[20:33] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Exterminador
[20:34] <Bashing-om> RonaldsMazitis: Are you working from the live environment such that the target partition(s) are not mounted ?
[20:35] <RonaldsMazitis> YES
[20:35] <Bashing-om> RonaldsMazitis: try from terminal ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/390769/how-do-i-resize-partitions-using-command-line-without-using-a-gui-on-a-server .
[20:36] <RonaldsMazitis> I will just try making new virtual machine
[20:37] <Exterminador> this is the right memtest, correct: https://imgur.com/a jm3k3p8 ?
[20:37] <Exterminador> https://imgur.com/jM3k3P8
[20:38] <oerheks> Exterminador, yes, let it run untill "Pass = 1 or more"
[20:38] <Exterminador> how many times?
[20:40] <Exterminador> only 25% of the 1st test lol
[20:41] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: I do suggest 3 or more passes . takes time .
[20:41] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: the issue is that your extended area does not cover the unpartitioned space. you cannot partition that unless you increase the size of the extended area.
[20:42] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: i.e. sda2 needs to be resized first of all
[20:42] <phinxy> What is the /etc/default/console-setup config file doing, if anything?  "configuration file for setupcon"
[20:42] <Exterminador> that will take about 2h to do the 3 passes! lol
[20:43] <[itchyjunk]> hi, stupid question. https://www.tensorflow.org/install/install_linux i'm trying to follow the steps here. and i cant apt-get cuda-command-line-tools
[20:43] <[itchyjunk]> i probably need to add something to my apt so it can find these non standared stuff? thanks
[20:43] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: another option you always have with virtual machines (and physical servers alie, though there money is involed, and storage bays may be physically limited) is to just add a new disk
[20:44] <phinxy> Does /etc/vconsole.conf overrule /etc/default/console-setup?
[20:44] <RonaldsMazitis> if I will add more apce
[20:44] <RonaldsMazitis> space
[20:44] <RonaldsMazitis> will I be able to update ubuntu
[20:44] <RonaldsMazitis> ?
[20:45] <RonaldsMazitis> I mean, it is living on 1 partition
[20:46] <Exterminador> Bashing-om, oerheks: while I wait I'm going to eat something. it's almost 23:00h and I haven't eat yet debugging this thing. I'll keep you both informed
[20:47] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: you can add a new storage, create a file system on it, update /etc/fstab to mount the new file system in an existing location, then move the contents of this directory on the old disk to the new disk
[20:47] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: K; I be here for a while yet this session :)
[20:47] <SlidingHorn> [itchyjunk]: the package they're trying to have you install is in nvidia-cuda-toolkit     sudo apt install nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[20:47] <can> Hello everyone, I have an issue with my computer since I reinstalled ubuntu.
[20:47] <RonaldsMazitis> I rather install everything again on new virtualbox then
[20:48] <[itchyjunk]> SlidingHorn, thanks a bunch 0/
[20:48] <Bashing-om> !details | can
[20:48] <can> I am stuck in a login loop because my home folder won't decrypt. Do you know any solution ? I did not find anything online
[20:48] <can> Sorry I thought Shift+Enter would create a new line but it sent the message
[20:50] <can> I managed to mount my home folder manually (i had a hard time but it works). But ubuntu doesn't decrypt it when I try to login, it just goes back to the login screen. I created a new user with encrypted home and its the same for that user
[20:54] <Bashing-om> can: Sorry, how encryption works is out of my experience range .
[20:54] <can> Bashing-om: no problem
[21:00] <Nebi> ok that seems serious: WHen I put a recovery usb with ubuntuon it, my pc also freezes
[21:03] <Bashing-om> Nebi: Can you confirm that the LiveUSB is not corrupted ?
[21:03] <Nebi> hmm ok 'nomodeset' helped
[21:04] <Nebi> Bashing-om, thanks yes it seems to be OK. WIth nomodeset it started. I'm trying now to see through my logs to see what happened today
[21:05] <Bashing-om> Nebi: :) .
[21:07] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: 1st pass done. Pass:1 Errors: 0; ** Pass complete, no errors, press ESC to exit **. second pass in progress
[21:10] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: also stupid question: since Xubuntu boots perfectly with "nomodeset" there's a way to change screen size after right? I'm stuck with 640*480..
[21:12] <crimson_king> Exterminador: During installation I used nomodeset and the resolution was low. But after booting into the installed system, it was back to normal
[21:13] <dunpeal> Hi there. Is there a way to specify the main user's uid during the Ubuntu installation process?
[21:13] <dunpeal> Or would I have to set it manually after install is done?
[21:13] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: sire there is a way .. but keeping "nomodeset" is not optimal, as it defeats "kernel Mode Setting" .
[21:14] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: all i need is it to work (so I can see my series in Strem.io) xD
[21:14] <crimson_king> Exterminador: Sometimes the installer will boot to a black screen, that's when nomodeset is useful. But after installed, the kernel mode setting should do its job instead
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: what bothers me is that echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE no retun indicates a possible issue with Xorg. Xorg is the GUI !
[21:16] <Nebi-live> Hi, OK I'm in live-CD and ready to explore the logs
[21:17] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: weirdly, it works fine on recovery mode, resume (shortened steps) with nouveau drivers
[21:18] <Nebi-live> Ioria, are you still there?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: When ya get done with the memtest might be a good idea here too to read X's log file .
[21:20] <Exterminador> the problem of using it with the recovery mode is that I don't have video acceleration and I need it to use Strem.io
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: nvidia-340 "should" work . find out why not :)
[21:22] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: I don't know why, but my laptop just shutdown by itself.
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: over heating ?
[21:23] <jmgb4> Isnt there a bios option (sometimes) to prevent auto-shutdown?
[21:24] <Exterminador> I don't think so. but can be. even tho it have worked flawlessly today in recovery mode and I've changed the thermal paste just 2 months ago
[21:24] <jmgb4> Like Bashing-om said, check the temps
[21:26] <markie^> what would i have to remove to stop my system from starting
[21:26] <markie^> so basically creating a massive error
[21:27] <matjam> thats a new one, usually people ask us to help them fix things.
[21:27] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: system give any info as to the shut down ' sudo tail /var/log/syslog ' ?
[21:27] <Nebi-live> ok I think I will try to uninstall virtualbox
[21:28] <markie^> matjam yeah it's a special of situation
[21:28] <dunpeal> Is there a way to have Ubuntu not create a user besides root during the installation process?
[21:28] <Nebi-live> other than that I  am searching for a needle in the hay in the logs
[21:32] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: so, do you want to see X logs?
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Well, I can, but i will see nothing that you do not see :)
[21:33] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Are you booted normal at this time ?
[21:33] <Nebi> service
[21:33] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: yes. I've tried to boot with "nomodeset", but still stripes in the screen
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[21:37] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/3slk
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: reading. I be awhile :)
[21:38] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: brb too. someone knocked my door
[21:38] <Nebi> Oh, I', right now reading a forum-article about how to fix a lightdm problem... by Bashing-om from 2014 :) You are famous :)
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: All bets are off " ro recovery nomodeset " looking at a driver issue .
[21:46] <Nebi> OK, a very concrete question. I typed in 'lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga' and the result is a VGA comptabible controller: Inter corporation. But it does not show my GPU. Could this be a hint of why I have a freeze at boot?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Yukkie p ist time for me that nomdeset is set, and the nvidia driver is still loaded !! .. and then the kernel pukes " (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Deleting GPU-0 " .
[21:47] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: I think I've made a mistake
[21:47] <Exterminador> lemme see one thing
[21:48] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: sorry, but I think that I've done Xorg.0.log.old ;x
[21:49] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: K .. want to see the current boot file :)
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: That last log boot time " Time: Wed May 16 22:23:01 " .
[21:51] <two_dogs_> [   189.409] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Wed May 16 22:23:01 2018
[21:52] <Exterminador> then I'm gonna reboot normally. without the "nomodeset". probably better?
[21:52] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Yes, a normal boot then we see what X has to relate .
[21:53] <Exterminador> I've removed all the Xorg.0.log*
[21:53] <Exterminador> let's see what it report now
[21:54] <Bashing-om> Two_Dogs: Exterminador: something really screwy going on with Xorg .
[21:55] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/v8n2
[21:56] <laptop> problem tried os-prober, updating grub menu and boot-repair and still could not have ubuntu acknowledge windows partition what do I do
[21:58] <iulian_>  /join  #hexcellents
[21:58] <rungcc_from_home> HI GUYS!just to let you all know, I discovered what was the problem with my intel nuc giving me all sort of problems! belive it or not, it was the SSD! He was perfectly working, but for some reason, he just don't work on my pc because he isn't an HP computer! What tip me off to try to revert to my old ssd to see if this was the problem was the model number of the new ssd, he is a liteon cv1-8b256-hp
[21:58] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: I'm considering in installing Xubuntu Xenial in another partition I have just to see if the problem goes away by itself
[21:59] <rungcc_from_home> the -HP at the end is because the ssd is only compatible with hewllet packard computers! no idea why he was giving problems with usb, but the freezing systems and reboots when inside bios went away, also the addressing errors on USB also disapeared from dmesg.
[22:01] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: How handy are you ? I am running  xubuntu-core 18.04 very happily .
[22:02] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: I'm a noob. been learning very slowly. I've some problems to retain information
[22:04] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: K. then too soon for you to go with a "make it your own " / It mau at this point be a good idea to have a dual boot . Any ideas of what would produce " (WW) Unresolved symbol: fbGetGCPrivateKey " ??
[22:05] <Bashing-om> it may at this**
[22:05] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: no idea, honestly
[22:07] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: As I keep saying .. Xorg seems inconsistent . I got no heartburn to purge and reinstall Xorg and the nvidia driver .
[22:07] <Exterminador> I can do it. just tell me how :)
[22:08] <Exterminador> apt remove --purge xorg* nvidia* ?
[22:09] <Nebi> OK, I'm asking for the last time today: maybe someone can help. I have a total freeze at the beginning of boot (when the logn screen should come). Before that issue I was doing for hours quite a lot of stuff. The last dangerous thing I did (just before the problem) was going to /usr/lib and typing rm -rf libprotobuf* with the aim of removing all the libprotobuf there. Before that I was trying to install version 3.5 of protobuf. While writing pro
[22:09] <Nebi> toc --version ti said it wqas 3.5 already. But while running a program it always said I was on 3.1. So I did different things. At the same time I also upgraded my gcc from 5.4 to 8. Maybe I did there something wrong? I also tried to compile caffe and openpose. I installed many libraries that were mentioned in some articles. Thats about it. I really dont know exactly what I did. And reading through the logs is currently not helping me as I dont k
[22:09] <Nebi> now what I should look for.
[22:09] <EriC^^> Nebi: try removing quiet splash from grub and put verbose instead
[22:10] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: apt remove --purge xorg* nvidia* ? :x
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: 1st we got to stop the Xserver . need to know the display manager : ' cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager ' .
[22:12] <Nebi> EriC^^ Thanks Eric. Unfortunately it didnt provide in the loading more information ebfore the freeze. Black screen with not-moving tick above
[22:12] <Exterminador>  Bashing-om: I'm on tty2. does it matter? as with the stripes I can't see nothing in the normal way
[22:13] <jcnoir> /plugin
[22:13] <EriC^^> Nebi: does another tty work?
[22:13] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: /usr/sbin/lightdm
[22:13] <Nebi> If I do normal boot or replacing by verbose, then no other tty can be opened. However, if I replace with 'nomodeset' then it crashes but I can change to another tty
[22:14] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Let's then try an easier way in your condition. rebbot to the login screen can you get a usable comsole interface with ' ctl+alt+F2 ' ?
[22:14] <|Night|> hey
[22:15] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Boy, I got some homework to do as I was expecting this to be ubuntu and running GDM3 rather than lightdm .
[22:15] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: that's what I've done :) I've let it boot until the login screen and then I've used ctrl+alt+f2
[22:15] <|Night|> I keep getting To connect to site insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.  with wget
[22:15] <|Night|> any idea how to fix this? CA is in my sertstore
[22:15] <|Night|> it even fails on github
[22:17] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Here then X is not started ) I think ) and we can safely run ' sudo apt remove --purge xserver-xorg ' sudo apt install xserver-xorg ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' . reboot to see what we have for sure .
[22:18] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: right away!
[22:19] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: I do expect that you can copy and paste in the blind :)
[22:20] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: I'm good typing manually (been doing it for some time)
[22:23] <kilroyson101> hey there quick question if i could
[22:23] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: :_ was concerned could not see properly in that TTY2 .
[22:23] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: rebooting (Nvidia logo appeared after splash screen) but once again, stripes in the login screen
[22:24] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: At that point is the vesa driver .
[22:24] <kilroyson101> unable to find root  error when installing from usb  any idea where i went sideways with the process ?
[22:25] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: next idea? :)
[22:25] <Bashing-om> kilroyson101: in the installer did you " something else" and did you there define the / partition ?
[22:25] <[itchyjunk]> hi i am trying to follow the steps here. https://www.tensorflow.org/install/install_linux i was told to apt-get install cuda-command-line-toolkit instead which i did. do i need to get the cuda-command-line-tools as well?
[22:26] <kilroyson101> wont show that part goes straight from the minimal or full install to the partion menu but it only shows my sdb not the harddrive for comp i believe
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: think'n
[22:28] <Bashing-om> kilroyson101: Best show the channel what you are working with . pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[22:29] <kilroyson101> like a pic or ?  if it changes the scenario any  these are machines that were wiped by police and bought at auction i have no back up O.S to work with on these machines
[22:29] <Bashing-om> kilroyson101: A pic might just might be good enough :)
[22:30] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: what returns ' apt-cache show xserver-xorg | grep Version ' ?
[22:30] <kilroyson101> kk ill take a shot of it with cell and ill be back  ty bashing-om   definitely appreciated,
[22:31] <Bashing-om> kilroyson101: Gotta be a reason .
[22:31] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: Version: 1:7.7+19ubuntu7
[22:33] <Jordan_U> kilroyson101: Are you sure that these computers have hard drives? Often the way that organizations ensure that no data gets leaked is by simply removing the hard drive before selling them on.
[22:34] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: that is correct .. and are the modules available ? pastebin ' cat /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ' .
[22:36] <Nebi> Could it be that running 'sudo ldconfig' it caused a freeze at boot?
[22:37] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: weirdly, no modules: http://termbin.com/1ofo
[22:38] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: default .. I had expected perhaps to see nvidia ?? Back to the drawing board .
[22:42] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Got a config file ( should NOT ) ' ls /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' anything mvidia here 'ls /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ' ?
[22:45] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: inside /etc/X11 there's no Xorg.conf. inside /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d there's a few files including nvidia.drm.outputclass-ubuntu.conf
[22:47] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: We should be good ... humm .. How about we revert back explicitly to nouveau driver . from there see what we can find ?
[22:47] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: how to do that? apt remove --purge nvidia* only?
[22:48] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: or should I go to Software & Updates and choose Xorg there?
[22:49] <Johnak> is this the place to ask if i have questions on my ubuntu?
[22:50] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Yes, and then explictly make sure the nouvea driver installs ' sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ' watching for error reports .
[22:50] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: Command line ' apt remove --purge nvidia* '
[22:50] <Bashing-om>  .
[22:51] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: right away.
[22:51] <Bashing-om> Johnak: most assurdedly .. ubuntu ask .
[22:54] <Johnak> my wlan0 does not show up in the "iwconfig", but my "lsusb" and "inxi -nx" says they can see this wifi adapter, has anyone and any similar problem?
[22:56] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: apt install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau said it's already installed
[22:56] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: reboot and still with bad graphic's ?
[22:57] <Exterminador> it's rebooting
[22:57] <Nebi> guys an important question: could the freeze be caused because I typed 'sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[22:58] <www_> no
[22:58] <Bashing-om> Nebi: I would not think so .. the package manager only looks for things it "can" remove .
[22:59] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: no bad graphics, but a black screen instead. :/
[22:59] <Nebi> Bashing-om, OK thanks for the info.
[22:59] <LinuxGuy2020> Hello I was wondering if there is a way for an average user to convert a deb package along with dependencies into a snap package. Command line is fine as long as its not rocket science.
[23:00] <Bashing-om> Exterminador: show a new Xorg.conf file . I am out of time and must cut grass, I be back in an hour or so .
[23:01] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: what I can see here is that "nomodeset" makes it work but I have low graphics resolution. if at least I could change screen resolution even with "nomodeset" enabled. pastebin on its way
[23:03] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: http://termbin.com/b0cx
[23:03] <Exterminador> oops
[23:03] <Exterminador> wrong file
[23:05] <Exterminador> Bashing-om: I don't have any Xorg.conf file
[23:08] <kilroyson101> how would one upload picture from comp to the chat ? got the pics   Bashing-om
[23:16] <kilroyson101> okay so i used rufus to make a ubuntu bootable usb with both 14.04 and 18.04 versions   unable to find root  error when installing from usb  any idea where i went sideways with the process ?if it changes the scenario any  these are machines that were wiped by police and bought at auction i have no back up O.S to work with on these machines an i have pictures of the screens and error aswell.
[23:18] <www_> kilroyson101: use dd instead of rufus
[23:19] <kilroyson101> dd ??
[23:19] <kilroyson101> could you elaborate ?
[23:21] <www_> type man dd in the terminal
[23:21] <compdoc> kilroyson101, rufus is  run on windows?
[23:22] <www_> or dd help
[23:22] <kilroyson101> is it the other option on rufus instead of iso ?   /    rufus is being run on windows but the machines themselves have nothing on them   im working with a base bios
[23:23] <www_> oh
[23:23] <compdoc> kilroyson101, imageUSB works perfectly with iso files
[23:24] <kilroyson101> 2.18.1213 version of rufus and the 14.04.4 and 18.04 versions of ubuntu     /  so you think switching the formatting program will yield different result ?
[23:24] <compdoc> its what i use
[23:24] <Nebi> OK, I will go to bed now. I posted my problem under the following link if someone might want to help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1037166/freeze-at-login-screen-ubuntu-16-04-unknown-reason-after-doing-many-things
[23:25] <kilroyson101> ill try it out  thanks compdoc
[23:25] <Exterminador> okay. how do I force the screen resolution even with nomodeset enabled?
[23:25] <kilroyson101> any other suggestions mates while im testing that out ?
[23:25] <www_> i use dd command with iso and it has never disappointed me
[23:26] <Exterminador> www_: afaik you don't have dd in Windoze
[23:28] <www_> Exterminador: i dont use windows!!!! if that person has a computer running linux, he can try it out
[23:31] <puff> I'm having trouble getting my kindle fire to mount via MTP.
[23:32] <puff> When I plug my kindle fire in via USB cable, I get "Unable to open MTP device '[usb:002,006]'"
[23:32] <www_> install mtp tools
[23:34] <puff> Hm, in dmesg, I see it recognizing the kindle fire, then: [183041.198292] ata4: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x4040000 action 0xe frozen
[23:34] <puff> I already have mtp-tools installed.
[23:38] <nacc> puff: that message implies a hardware fault occurred. Are you using the cable that came with your Kindle?
[23:39] <nacc> puff: have you tried other USB ports on your machine, some may be underpowered. If a laptop, is the laptop plugged in (this also changes port behavior, broad strokes)
[23:41] <Exterminador> nacc: by any chance do you know how to force a specific screen resolution even with nomodeset enabled?
[23:42] <nacc> Exterminador: have you tried with xrandr?
[23:43] <Exterminador> nope. how should I proceed?
[23:44] <PastorBones> Hey guys...I accidentally chown / but was able to stop it quick. /lib64 and /tmp were changed. I booted LiveCD, fixed ownership...still won't boot. Any suggestions?
[23:45] <gambl0re> can anyone recommend a simple lightweight easy to use video editor for ubuntu?
[23:50] <RoadRunner> trying to unmount an fs to shrink a lvm partition but seem to be making a mistake in my command syntax: "sudo umount /dev/sda5/xubuntu-vg/lvm2 pv".  Where "dev/sda5 "is the partition, "xubuntu-vg" the mount point and "lvm2 pv" the file system. Where is my mistake?
[23:51] <matjam> RoadRunner: just umount the mount path
[23:51] <matjam> if its mounted to /xubuntu-vg (you need to use the absolute path) then umount /xubuntu-vg
[23:52] <matjam> of course if the filesystem is in use it will not let you.
[23:53] <RoadRunner> matjam: I booted from a live cd and am following the example syntax here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume : "sudo umount /dev/vg_blah/lv_blah"
[23:54] <matjam> that will work just don't put anything after it
[23:54] <matjam> type "mount" to see whats mounted, exactly, and use the path there
[23:57] <michaelrose> so why exactly did ubuntu copy that idiotic pull up to get rid of lockscreen gesture from windows?
[23:58] <matjam> I don't know
[23:58] <RoadRunner> matjam: figuring out the correct path is the problem for me; I thought GParted gave it under "mount point". "mount" lists a ton of stuff and no dev/sda5 is evident
[23:59] <matjam> I replaced GDM with LightDM to get rid of it.
[23:59] <matjam> RoadRunner: well you're using lvm so the underlying device won't be mounted