[10:40] <lukaso666> hi! I have Xubuntu 16.4... official GUI update-manager (with upgradable LTS releases enabled in settings) doesn't show me any upgrade to 17.04 LTS or 18.04 LTS (and i saw these releases on xubuntu website).. should I upgrade the system on my own, by terminal?
[10:41] <Unit193> 17.04 is not an LTS, and the LTS will be offered at the first point release, which is in July.
[10:41] <lukaso666> Unit193: f***k, yeah! I forgot about that! sorry!
[10:42] <lukaso666> but anyway, can I upgrade it by changing the repo list and release upgrade in console?
[10:42] <knome> lukaso666, please remember this is a family-friendly channel...
[10:43] <knome> "any-to-any" upgrade paths should work now, so you should be able to upgrade to 18.04 from 17.04 as well.
[10:43] <lukaso666> or better stay with 16.04 ant to wait for official LTS? I mean a stable working distro...
[10:43] <lukaso666> knome: sorry!
[10:43] <knome> oh wait, i misread
[10:44] <knome> 16.04->18.04 is definitely a supported upgrade path, it will be proposed to you when the point release is out
[10:44] <lukaso666> I see
[10:44] <knome> that is, what Unit193 just said
[10:44] <knome> scheduled for july 26th
[10:45] <lukaso666> thanks, guys!
[10:45] <knome> you *can* upgrade earlier but for stability reasons the upgrade isn't advertised for 16.04 users yet
[10:46] <lukaso666> knome: that's why I asked.. I have Dabian sid too and I want Xubuntu as stable as possible alternative
[10:46] <lukaso666> so I'll wait until July 26th
[10:48] <knome> yup, it's not that far away anyway...
[10:48] <lukaso666> exactly
[19:22] <_thelion_> Hi there. In thunar: clicking on "open a terminal here" opens the terminal always in the home folder.
[19:22] <_thelion_> the setting in thunar is: exo-open --working-directory %f --launch TerminalEmulator
[22:18] <dunpeal> Hi. Is there a way to run the Xubuntu installer such that it won't create any user other than root initially?
[22:19] <dunpeal> Right now, it seems to force me to create a non-root user that don't want.
[22:19] <knome> dunpeal, no, for many reasons, mostly because using the root account isn't recommended on (x)ubuntu
[22:20] <dunpeal> knome: I know, it's not because I want to just use root as a regular user (ugh), but because I need more control over how my non-root main user gets created.
[22:20] <Javabean> s/(x)ubuntu/linux also aplicable to windows/mac/everybody
[22:20] <knome> dunpeal, hmm, like what control?
[22:20] <dunpeal> For example, I need to set a specific UID for it.
[22:22] <knome> sounds like a very rare situation
[22:22] <knome> may i ask what for?
[22:22] <knome> or in other words: are you trying to solve another problem with this solution?
[22:23] <dunpeal> knome: I need to match permissions on mounted network drives, and having the right UID there from the get-go is less hairy than doing remaps etc.
[22:24] <knome> right, but the network drive tools have the remapping features
[22:25] <knome> is there something else you'd like more control on?
[22:27] <knome> i mean i don't think it's very likely that the installer started allowing you to do fancy UID tricks ;)
[22:29] <dunpeal> knome: yeah, but it would be nice if it did.
[22:30] <knome> sounds like it would suit some other OS more - or potentially some text-mode installer or sth
[22:31] <knome> anyway, time to go to bed
[22:32] <knome> nighty!
[22:32] <dunpeal> Thanks.