/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/05/17/#ubuntu-discuss.txt

leftyfbSlidingHorn: it's mostly a function I have that looks through my logs00:58
lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:11
SlidingHornmornin lotuspsychje04:20
lotuspsychjehey SlidingHorn how are you mate04:20
SlidingHorntired04:20
lotuspsychjeSlidingHorn: up all night?04:24
SlidingHornyeah04:24
lotuspsychjeslide down and relax, new timezones taking over from you :p04:27
lotuspsychje!wacom04:35
EriC^^morning all05:50
lordievaderGood morning06:01
lordievaderWhy does Neo4 still claim his English is 'proficient' when multiple people have given up on him due to his poor English?06:02
lotuspsychjemorning EriC^^ lordievader06:07
lordievaderHey lotuspsychje06:08
lordievaderHow are  you doing?06:08
lotuspsychjefine here, weather is colder now06:08
lordievaderYes, indeed -.-06:08
lotuspsychjeand almost weekend cant be bad :p06:09
lotuspsychjebbl breakfast06:11
lordievaderWeekend is nice :)06:12
ducassegood morning06:17
lordievaderHey ducasse06:25
lordievaderHow are you doing?06:25
EriC^^morning ducasse lordievader lotuspsychje06:26
lordievader👋06:27
jinkMorning, nerds.06:27
ducassehi lordievader. EriC^^ - i'm fine, thanks, how about you?06:28
lordievaderDoing good here.06:28
EriC^^great thanks ducasse06:31
ducassenational day here today, lots of stuff happening everywhere06:33
lordievaderNice stuff, or 'too many people, not nice' stuff?06:41
ducassefor me, the latter. there will be crowds *everywhere*, and i don't do crowds.06:45
ducasseso staying at home and preparing for family to come for barbecue :)06:46
lotuspsychjehey ducasse jink06:48
lotuspsychjeducasse: the meat is marinating already?06:49
lordievaderducasse: Crowds are the worst.06:52
ducassemorning lotuspsychje - all well today? haven't really started on the meat yet :)06:54
lotuspsychjeyeah fine here ducasse :p06:54
lotuspsychje!info zzuf xenial07:46
ubot5Package zzuf does not exist in xenial07:46
lotuspsychje!info zzuf precise07:46
ubot5zzuf (source: zzuf): transparent application fuzzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.svn20100215-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 65 kB, installed size 244 kB07:46
lotuspsychje!info zzuf bionic07:47
ubot5zzuf (source: zzuf): transparent application fuzzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.15-1 (bionic), package size 63 kB, installed size 187 kB07:47
lotuspsychjeweird07:47
lotuspsychjebbl guys workday ;)08:27
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BluesKajHiyas all11:58
JimBuntuHello there BluesKaj12:06
BluesKaj'Morning JimBuntu, how's things this fine morn?12:08
JimBuntuGood and looking up so far. It's a crisp/chilly morning with blue skies. I'll take it! How are you?12:11
lordievader👋12:12
BluesKajJimBuntu, the weather's the same here and I'm doing ok so far...lotsof stuuf to do today. My 2 daughters are driving up from Montreal today so i have to finish cleaning this place :-)12:18
JimBuntuAwesome for you though!12:18
BluesKajyeah, absolutely12:19
BluesKajHey lordievader, how's things?12:19
lordievaderDoing good here 😁12:19
lordievaderGood luck with cleaning 😉12:20
BluesKajhehe, yeah , had a good stsrt yesterday so it shouldn't be too difficult to finish up12:21
pauljwhey BluesKaj, everyone. :)12:22
BluesKajHi pauljw :-)12:22
lordievader👋12:23
BluesKajlordievader, that emoji is showing up here as a vertical rectangle12:24
pauljwlooks a hello kitty here...12:24
pauljwlooks like12:24
lordievaderHmm, it is a waving hand emoji. Either your client doesn't use/support utf-8 or your fon't is missing this specific emoji.12:25
BluesKajthe first 2 you posted worked ok12:25
lordievaderhttps://emojipedia.org/waving-hand-sign/12:25
pauljwah yeah, now i see the hand...12:25
pauljwi'm so used to emoji's being face oriented that i wasn't looking for something else. :)12:26
BluesKajfont I use is Dejavu Sans12:27
BluesKajof course I'm also testing 18.10 Cosmic dev OS so who what can happen12:30
BluesKajwho knows12:30
BluesKajrunning well so far , but there haven't been many upgrades or new installs since it's early days12:31
daftykinslordievader: i saw it12:32
daftykinsyeah i would've thought at this point there's not even anything between 18.04 and 18.10? :)12:33
BluesKajhad about 50-60 upgrades so far12:33
BluesKajno kernel upgrades or kde/plasma major version changes12:35
tgm4883leftyfb: yea dpkg-dev isn't needed for this15:12
leftyfbgot all the files already?15:12
tgm4883dpkg-dev is for creating the repo. The repo is already created15:12
tgm4883whoever gave her the ISO created the repo15:13
tgm4883so I think we just need to find the right deb line to add to sources.list15:13
tgm4883That page that was linked to assume you're dumping a bunch of random debs in a directory and want to make a repo out of that15:13
tgm4883leftyfb: so I think what probably need to happen is to have a sources line something like15:14
tgm4883deb file:/usr/local/mydebs xenial-updates main restricted ...15:15
leftyfbdeb file:///home/repository SuiteCodename main restricted universe multiverse15:15
tgm4883yea15:15
leftyfbdeb file:///home/repository xenial-updates main restricted15:15
leftyfbdeb file:///home/repository xenial-security main restricted15:16
tgm4883she's got updates and security, so two lines. Figuring out what parts she has now15:16
leftyfbI'd say the 2 lines I just posted15:16
tgm4883Probably. I'm doubtful she has universe and multiverse, but she might not have restricted either15:17
leftyfbthe lines I posted last don't have universe and multiverse15:17
daftykinswhat's the deal with a custom repo?15:17
tgm4883I know. I'm just saying we need to figure out what she has first15:18
tgm4883daftykins: someone was given an ISO with a mirror of the repo to update an air-gapped server15:18
tgm4883a mirror or a semi mirror, unsure how complete it is15:18
tgm4883it's 45GB, so it's not a full mirror15:19
daftykinscurious method15:19
leftyfbnot a bad idea if it's done correct and with some instruction15:21
tgm4883leftyfb: main and multiverse15:22
tgm4883what a weird combo15:22
leftyfbyeah, interesting15:22
tgm4883oh and universe15:22
leftyfband universe15:22
tgm4883that's not so crazy then15:22
daftykinsby the sounds though, it would've been easier to ship an image of an installed OS to transfer over15:22
daftykinsoh no i'm being an idiot, 'cause they wouldn't necessarily know what software they want to use15:23
leftyfbnacc: you know WSL has very little do with #windows right? It's based off the cloud image of ubuntu. The error they were having has to just do with a broken mysql installation. The "runlevel" error is a red herring17:10
EriC^^evening all17:14
EriC^^hey oerheks17:47
oerheksHi EriC^^ \0/17:47
naccleftyfb: dunno any of that, i know that WSL is not supported in #ubuntu.17:54
leftyfbnacc: I'd say with it's installation or kernel level stuff or maybe even advanced networking. But as far as a broken package system, it's just ubuntu. At that point it has nothing to do with Windows17:55
leftyfbnacc: sending someone to #windows because of a broken mysql installation in ubuntu is going to get them nowhere and very frustrated with ubuntu17:55
leftyfbnot Windows17:55
naccleftyfb: i have seen donofrio find enough weird shit that i disagree with you.17:56
naccleftyfb: and choose to not disclose they are on wsl until an hour into debugging.17:57
naccleftyfb: and you know what, i honestly don't care if they are frustrated with ubuntu. All I did was point them to the FAQ response for their specific usage.17:57
oerheksdonofrio.. he is the only active user i know on WSL .. problems with installing a desktop and such17:57
leftyfbwhich tells them to ask for help in #windows17:57
naccleftyfb: I believe I've seen you do the same with other users for other things. So let's just drop it17:57
naccleftyfb: feel free to change the FAQ response, if you think it's wrong.17:58
leftyfbnacc: is that something I have the ability to do?17:58
naccleftyfb: yes.17:58
nacc"!ubuwin is ..."17:59
nacc(without the quotes, of course)17:59
oerheksthe !wsl factoid is correct, no?17:59
naccleftyfb: the admins of the bot will have to approve it, but that's how the responses are defined and adjusted over time.17:59
oerheks!wsl17:59
ubot5Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide17:59
naccleftyfb is claiming that support for some parts of it should occur in #ubuntu, afaict.18:00
naccmight be true, but hasn't been our policy until now18:00
leftyfbI most certainly claim that. #windows has no business supporting an Ubuntu OS. Maybe the installation on their subsystem. Or if something is wrong at the kernel level. But userland, no way.18:00
naccit's not an Ubuntu product, it's a Canonical prodcut18:01
nacc*product18:01
naccalso, I would think someone would pick "#ubuntu-on-windows" first, but that's just me18:01
leftyfbthe running OS is just the cloud image. Same thing that gets installed on servers18:01
naccexcept *how* it runs is nothing like Linux18:02
naccso you can handwave all you need to, I will handwave back18:02
leftyfbthere's 14 people in there. One is a chanserv, one is me, and one is the guy that was looking for help earlier. Not going to get much help there.18:02
naccnope, that's the consequence of choosing to use the product, then18:03
naccmaybe don't use windows18:03
naccjust like any number of other products that have no support on IRC18:03
nacc<cough>mint</cough>18:03
oerheksand 12.04 extended support18:03
oerheksoh i love the wave of 32 users in the future18:04
leftyfbIn the case of today, the issue was with ubuntu as an OS and zero to do with windows or the WSL product.18:04
oerheks32 bit *18:04
oerheksoh my ..18:16
lotuspsychjeoO18:56
kostkon:/19:10
lotuspsychjeubuntu & windows are such good friends :p19:12
lotuspsychjeive readed it on internet!19:12
JimBuntuit MUST be true! Kinda like how IBM loves Apple20:22
oerheksCanonical loves ibm too.. and the next day 100.000 layed off20:35
leftyfba little too much20:36
leftyfbthat's all I worked on for most of the 3 years I worked there20:36
leftyfbdamn Power 820:36
oerheksI can not be paid, sorry Mark.20:37
oerheks:-D20:37
tsimonq2To be fair, Canonical probably loves IBM because they're a big ... corporate sponsor. ;)20:48
JimBuntuFor sure, there should be some love their. Plus, it's IBM, a fair amount of Linux love from IBM in general.20:49
* oerheks facepalms23:30
oerhekssorry nacc .. i explicitly asked him about other os that might controll ..23:30
naccoerheks: that's what i thought too :/23:30
oerheksthen we all still win, guessing was right23:31
oerheks!cookie | nacc23:54
ubot5nacc: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!23:54
oerheks!pizza EriC^^23:55

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