[00:58] <leftyfb> SlidingHorn: it's mostly a function I have that looks through my logs
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:20] <SlidingHorn> mornin lotuspsychje
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> hey SlidingHorn how are you mate
[04:20] <SlidingHorn> tired
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> SlidingHorn: up all night?
[04:24] <SlidingHorn> yeah
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> slide down and relax, new timezones taking over from you :p
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !wacom
[05:50] <EriC^^> morning all
[06:01] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:02] <lordievader> Why does Neo4 still claim his English is 'proficient' when multiple people have given up on him due to his poor English?
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> morning EriC^^ lordievader
[06:08] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[06:08] <lordievader> How are  you doing?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> fine here, weather is colder now
[06:08] <lordievader> Yes, indeed -.-
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> and almost weekend cant be bad :p
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast
[06:12] <lordievader> Weekend is nice :)
[06:17] <ducasse> good morning
[06:25] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[06:25] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:26] <EriC^^> morning ducasse lordievader lotuspsychje
[06:27] <lordievader> 👋
[06:27] <jink> Morning, nerds.
[06:28] <ducasse> hi lordievader. EriC^^ - i'm fine, thanks, how about you?
[06:28] <lordievader> Doing good here.
[06:31] <EriC^^> great thanks ducasse
[06:33] <ducasse> national day here today, lots of stuff happening everywhere
[06:41] <lordievader> Nice stuff, or 'too many people, not nice' stuff?
[06:45] <ducasse> for me, the latter. there will be crowds *everywhere*, and i don't do crowds.
[06:46] <ducasse> so staying at home and preparing for family to come for barbecue :)
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse jink
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: the meat is marinating already?
[06:52] <lordievader> ducasse: Crowds are the worst.
[06:54] <ducasse> morning lotuspsychje - all well today? haven't really started on the meat yet :)
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah fine here ducasse :p
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !info zzuf xenial
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !info zzuf precise
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> !info zzuf bionic
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> weird
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys workday ;)
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:06] <JimBuntu> Hello there BluesKaj
[12:08] <BluesKaj> 'Morning JimBuntu, how's things this fine morn?
[12:11] <JimBuntu> Good and looking up so far. It's a crisp/chilly morning with blue skies. I'll take it! How are you?
[12:12] <lordievader> 👋
[12:18] <BluesKaj> JimBuntu, the weather's the same here and I'm doing ok so far...lotsof stuuf to do today. My 2 daughters are driving up from Montreal today so i have to finish cleaning this place :-)
[12:18] <JimBuntu> Awesome for you though!
[12:19] <BluesKaj> yeah, absolutely
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hey lordievader, how's things?
[12:19] <lordievader> Doing good here 😁
[12:20] <lordievader> Good luck with cleaning 😉
[12:21] <BluesKaj> hehe, yeah , had a good stsrt yesterday so it shouldn't be too difficult to finish up
[12:22] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj, everyone. :)
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Hi pauljw :-)
[12:23] <lordievader> 👋
[12:24] <BluesKaj> lordievader, that emoji is showing up here as a vertical rectangle
[12:24] <pauljw> looks a hello kitty here...
[12:24] <pauljw> looks like
[12:25] <lordievader> Hmm, it is a waving hand emoji. Either your client doesn't use/support utf-8 or your fon't is missing this specific emoji.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> the first 2 you posted worked ok
[12:25] <lordievader> https://emojipedia.org/waving-hand-sign/
[12:25] <pauljw> ah yeah, now i see the hand...
[12:26] <pauljw> i'm so used to emoji's being face oriented that i wasn't looking for something else. :)
[12:27] <BluesKaj> font I use is Dejavu Sans
[12:30] <BluesKaj> of course I'm also testing 18.10 Cosmic dev OS so who what can happen
[12:30] <BluesKaj> who knows
[12:31] <BluesKaj> running well so far , but there haven't been many upgrades or new installs since it's early days
[12:32] <daftykins> lordievader: i saw it
[12:33] <daftykins> yeah i would've thought at this point there's not even anything between 18.04 and 18.10? :)
[12:33] <BluesKaj> had about 50-60 upgrades so far
[12:35] <BluesKaj> no kernel upgrades or kde/plasma major version changes
[15:12] <tgm4883> leftyfb: yea dpkg-dev isn't needed for this
[15:12] <leftyfb> got all the files already?
[15:12] <tgm4883> dpkg-dev is for creating the repo. The repo is already created
[15:13] <tgm4883> whoever gave her the ISO created the repo
[15:13] <tgm4883> so I think we just need to find the right deb line to add to sources.list
[15:13] <tgm4883> That page that was linked to assume you're dumping a bunch of random debs in a directory and want to make a repo out of that
[15:14] <tgm4883> leftyfb: so I think what probably need to happen is to have a sources line something like
[15:15] <tgm4883> deb file:/usr/local/mydebs xenial-updates main restricted ...
[15:15] <leftyfb> deb file:///home/repository SuiteCodename main restricted universe multiverse
[15:15] <tgm4883> yea
[15:15] <leftyfb> deb file:///home/repository xenial-updates main restricted
[15:16] <leftyfb> deb file:///home/repository xenial-security main restricted
[15:16] <tgm4883> she's got updates and security, so two lines. Figuring out what parts she has now
[15:16] <leftyfb> I'd say the 2 lines I just posted
[15:17] <tgm4883> Probably. I'm doubtful she has universe and multiverse, but she might not have restricted either
[15:17] <leftyfb> the lines I posted last don't have universe and multiverse
[15:17] <daftykins> what's the deal with a custom repo?
[15:18] <tgm4883> I know. I'm just saying we need to figure out what she has first
[15:18] <tgm4883> daftykins: someone was given an ISO with a mirror of the repo to update an air-gapped server
[15:18] <tgm4883> a mirror or a semi mirror, unsure how complete it is
[15:19] <tgm4883> it's 45GB, so it's not a full mirror
[15:19] <daftykins> curious method
[15:21] <leftyfb> not a bad idea if it's done correct and with some instruction
[15:22] <tgm4883> leftyfb: main and multiverse
[15:22] <tgm4883> what a weird combo
[15:22] <leftyfb> yeah, interesting
[15:22] <tgm4883> oh and universe
[15:22] <leftyfb> and universe
[15:22] <tgm4883> that's not so crazy then
[15:22] <daftykins> by the sounds though, it would've been easier to ship an image of an installed OS to transfer over
[15:23] <daftykins> oh no i'm being an idiot, 'cause they wouldn't necessarily know what software they want to use
[17:10] <leftyfb> nacc: you know WSL has very little do with #windows right? It's based off the cloud image of ubuntu. The error they were having has to just do with a broken mysql installation. The "runlevel" error is a red herring
[17:14] <EriC^^> evening all
[17:47] <EriC^^> hey oerheks
[17:47] <oerheks> Hi EriC^^ \0/
[17:54] <nacc> leftyfb: dunno any of that, i know that WSL is not supported in #ubuntu.
[17:55] <leftyfb> nacc: I'd say with it's installation or kernel level stuff or maybe even advanced networking. But as far as a broken package system, it's just ubuntu. At that point it has nothing to do with Windows
[17:55] <leftyfb> nacc: sending someone to #windows because of a broken mysql installation in ubuntu is going to get them nowhere and very frustrated with ubuntu
[17:55] <leftyfb> not Windows
[17:56] <nacc> leftyfb: i have seen donofrio find enough weird shit that i disagree with you.
[17:57] <nacc> leftyfb: and choose to not disclose they are on wsl until an hour into debugging.
[17:57] <nacc> leftyfb: and you know what, i honestly don't care if they are frustrated with ubuntu. All I did was point them to the FAQ response for their specific usage.
[17:57] <oerheks> donofrio.. he is the only active user i know on WSL .. problems with installing a desktop and such
[17:57] <leftyfb> which tells them to ask for help in #windows
[17:57] <nacc> leftyfb: I believe I've seen you do the same with other users for other things. So let's just drop it
[17:58] <nacc> leftyfb: feel free to change the FAQ response, if you think it's wrong.
[17:58] <leftyfb> nacc: is that something I have the ability to do?
[17:58] <nacc> leftyfb: yes.
[17:59] <nacc> "!ubuwin is ..."
[17:59] <nacc> (without the quotes, of course)
[17:59] <oerheks> the !wsl factoid is correct, no?
[17:59] <nacc> leftyfb: the admins of the bot will have to approve it, but that's how the responses are defined and adjusted over time.
[17:59] <oerheks> !wsl
[18:00] <nacc> leftyfb is claiming that support for some parts of it should occur in #ubuntu, afaict.
[18:00] <nacc> might be true, but hasn't been our policy until now
[18:00] <leftyfb> I most certainly claim that. #windows has no business supporting an Ubuntu OS. Maybe the installation on their subsystem. Or if something is wrong at the kernel level. But userland, no way.
[18:01] <nacc> it's not an Ubuntu product, it's a Canonical prodcut
[18:01] <nacc> *product
[18:01] <nacc> also, I would think someone would pick "#ubuntu-on-windows" first, but that's just me
[18:01] <leftyfb> the running OS is just the cloud image. Same thing that gets installed on servers
[18:02] <nacc> except *how* it runs is nothing like Linux
[18:02] <nacc> so you can handwave all you need to, I will handwave back
[18:02] <leftyfb> there's 14 people in there. One is a chanserv, one is me, and one is the guy that was looking for help earlier. Not going to get much help there.
[18:03] <nacc> nope, that's the consequence of choosing to use the product, then
[18:03] <nacc> maybe don't use windows
[18:03] <nacc> just like any number of other products that have no support on IRC
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[18:03] <oerheks> and 12.04 extended support
[18:04] <oerheks> oh i love the wave of 32 users in the future
[18:04] <leftyfb> In the case of today, the issue was with ubuntu as an OS and zero to do with windows or the WSL product.
[18:04] <oerheks> 32 bit *
[18:16] <oerheks> oh my ..
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> oO
[19:10] <kostkon> :/
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu & windows are such good friends :p
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> ive readed it on internet!
[20:22] <JimBuntu> it MUST be true! Kinda like how IBM loves Apple
[20:35] <oerheks> Canonical loves ibm too.. and the next day 100.000 layed off
[20:36] <leftyfb> a little too much
[20:36] <leftyfb> that's all I worked on for most of the 3 years I worked there
[20:36] <leftyfb> damn Power 8
[20:37] <oerheks> I can not be paid, sorry Mark.
[20:37] <oerheks> :-D
[20:48] <tsimonq2> To be fair, Canonical probably loves IBM because they're a big ... corporate sponsor. ;)
[20:49] <JimBuntu> For sure, there should be some love their. Plus, it's IBM, a fair amount of Linux love from IBM in general.
[23:30]  * oerheks facepalms
[23:30] <oerheks> sorry nacc .. i explicitly asked him about other os that might controll ..
[23:30] <nacc> oerheks: that's what i thought too :/
[23:31] <oerheks> then we all still win, guessing was right
[23:54] <oerheks> !cookie | nacc
[23:55] <oerheks> !pizza EriC^^