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no_convertixHey there,15:01
no_convertixI want to convert an avi-file to an mp4-file using vlc. Whenever I try to convert vlc says "missing encoder: H264-MPEG-4-AVC(part 10)" or "cannot open hevc encoder". can anyone tell me how to install the missing libarys/encoders? thx15:06
chriswere[m]How do I run a gui app as root not that gksu is gone?15:15
no_converiHey, sorry to bother again -- I tried something an had to leave. If someone already answered my question I would appreciate you to repeat, else this is my problem: I want to convert an avi-file to a mp4-file using vlc. But whenever I try to convert vlc says "missing encoder: H264-MPEG-4-AVC (part 10)" or "cannot open hevc encoder". Can someone tell me how to install missing encoders or missing librarys? thx15:40
gnugrno_converi: try to install libdav-tools, might is what you missed15:51
gnugropsss15:52
gnugrerr.15:52
gnugrlibav-tools15:52
no_converiI did not have that paket before, but it still does not work. either "Video - H.264 + MP3 (MP4)" nor "Video - H.265 + MP3 (MP4)"16:01
Guest59110Hi All. Does Thunderbird integrate with ayatana-indicator-messages in Ubuntu MATE? I am trying to do this in Debian sid with MATE, but can't work out how to make Thunderbird connect with the messages indicator. If a Ubuntu MATE developer could give some tips or pointers, I would be very grateful.16:04
gnugrGuest59110: perhaps thunderbird's *eds* extension could be useful16:09
chriswere[m]How do I run a program with admin:// ? That's the usual recommendation from search results.16:11
chriswere[m]Is there a way to run a gui app as root NOT from the command line, if so, how?16:14
gnugrchriswere[m]: most apps belong to user in a normal DE, unless you run Kali-Linux which the majority of its app run as root16:17
gnugrto spesific most *hack* tools/apps use to run as root16:18
gnugrto be*16:18
gnugrwe can not recommend you to login as root16:19
gnugrchriswere[m]: still if you have apps which need root, ofcaurse you can call them with *sudo*16:22
chriswere[m]gnugr I'm not sure I follow, my VPN app needs to run as root, so far I can only do that my dropping into the command line, but is there a gui way to do it know that gksu has been removed?16:23
gnugri also use e.g hydra package, which i call it as root16:23
gnugri use 'sudo hydra'16:24
gnugrchriswere[m]: give us an example of an app you want to run16:25
gnugrvpn no need root16:26
gnugri run it as user from nm-applet16:27
chriswere[m]gnugr eddie the AirVPN client.16:34
chriswere[m]I don't get why VPNs on Linux are so difficult.16:34
TaZeRclient or server? client part is very simple16:39
chriswere[m]I would use OpenVPN and the Network Manager app, but that's not a reliable connection and UFW only seems to work when it wants to. I'm sure it's a user-error, but no-one can really get to the bottom of it, and I don't really have the expertise so I opted for a VPN with a specific Linux app. AirVPN doesn't have a working Ubuntu app so I need to run the portable version client.16:41
Guest59110gnugr: thanks for the suggestion, I'll try it.16:41
chriswere[m]When the VPN drops, apart from the little notification, it just carries on leaking info.16:41
chriswere[m]TaZeR: I'm just trying to get my client working, do you have any suggestions on my current use case?16:44
TaZeRchriswere[m]: what are you trying to use?16:44
TaZeRoh AirVPN?16:44
chriswere[m]TBH, I'd just be happy if I could get all my traffic through a VPN tunnel on UFW, but whenever I allow tun0 and tun1 through the firewall, it still seems to cut off all traffic. I didn't have this issues in 17.10.16:45
gnugrchriswere[m]: i use mostly this https://www.vpnbook.com/freevpn16:48
chriswere[m]But if I can just run AirVPNs Eddie app without having to jump into the command line, I'll settle for that.16:48
chriswere[m]Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd quite like to get one of my current VPNs working.16:51
gnugrchriswere[m]: also you need some extra packages for your network-manager https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dZPzsz69GG/16:51
gnugrget them16:51
chriswere[m]No luck I'm afraid gnugr16:53
gnugryour networm-manager to connect to any VPN needs those packages16:54
chriswere[m]My UFW config is here if that helps https://pastebin.com/wjqkpWbv16:54
gnugrnetwork-manager*16:54
chriswere[m]I installed them, I assumed they came with Ubuntu-MATE 18.04 since I didn't need to install extra stuff with 17.10. However the problem remains the same.16:56
chriswere[m]I've been working away at the UFW issue for the last few days and it's kinda beaten me. So I decided to opt for a VPN service that offers a specific Linux client, AitVPN, but they only offer a portable binary (for Ubuntu), but I'd like to run that without have to drop into the terminal every time. Gksu used to fill the role perfectly.17:03
chriswere[m]AirVPN* sorry17:03
no_converignugr: it's me again -- do you have any other idea on my vlc convert to mp4 problem. It does not work jet even though I have libav-tools installed now17:10
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gnugrno_converti: have you try 'smplayer17:23
no_convertinot yet -- wait a sec17:24
no_convertignugr: I don't find an option to convert it neither gui or commandline17:32
gnugrno_converti: actually converters exist from mp4 to mp317:33
gnugrhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/174287/how-do-i-convert-an-mp4-to-an-mp317:34
no_convertiI need to convert avi to mp417:35
no_convertignugr: got to leave for a moment -- I' ll be right back17:38
gnugrno_converti: use ffmpeg for that, "ffmpeg -i myfile.avi myfav.mp4"17:39
gnugror "ffmpeg -i myfile.avi -strict -2 myfav.mp4"17:41
no_convertithx first one seems to work already17:42
no_convertigot to go now i ll check the results later but it seems to work -- thx again17:42
Guest59110gnugr: I installed thunderbird EDS extension, but I couldn't find any notification options. Do you have any further hints?18:36
mate|51857ciao18:56
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Guest96476I've tested Ubuntu. No way : Windows is far better. Why don't u admit that, guys ?19:06
Guest96476No one here ? Dead chan. Windows'users are happier !19:12
gnugrGuest96476: what's wrong19:13
Guest96476Nothing ! I just want to promote WIndows here. Hard job.19:13
Guest96476!quit19:14
Guest96476! quit19:15
Guest96476unable to quit... I'm really a windows' fan...19:15
gnugrGuest96476: currently mate-indicator-applet and ayatana-indicator-application should be together19:15
greenmanspiritHello all, I came into a 4k monitor and most things are working very well. However, libre-office is tiny and I have a hard time using the menu or toolbars. When I googled, it says that hidpi should work.19:19
gnugrgreenmanspirit: deal with mate-tweak for HIDPI if needed19:21
greenmanspiritgnugr: I have mate-tweak set to HiDPI19:22
gnugrand no scaling?19:22
greenmanspiritnope19:23
greenmanspiritI can work on the page by scaling the document up but the rest of the UI is small19:23
gnugrgreenmanspirit: please highlight Wimpress about it19:23
greenmanspiritWimpress: Hello, I came into a 4k monitor and most things are working very well. However libre-office is tiny and I have a hard time using the menu or toolbars. I have mate-tweak set to HiDPI.19:25
gnugrgreenmanspirit: sure no graphic firmware/modules missing?19:28
greenmanspiritgnugr, When I look in "Additional Drivers" in "Software & Updates", it lists Nouveau in use.19:32
greenmanspiritMost apps are working, off the top of my head, the one that aren't are libre-office, enpass and VirtualBox19:33
gnugrhmmm.... i see no scaling-factor in dconf editor19:43
greenmanspiritlooks like the nextcloud client as well19:47
greenmanspiritthings like that one don't bother me much though because I don't use it often.19:47
gnugrhttps://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-desktop/issues/20819:52
gnugrgreenmanspirit:  check this ^^^^19:52
gnugrahhhh yes exist window-scaling-factor19:55
gnugrgreenmanspirit: dconf editor 'org.mate.desktop.interface.window-scaling-factor'19:57
gnugractivate it and try again19:58
gnugri've to go now19:59
greenmanspiritthank you gnugr20:00
greenmanspiritI am trying this change out now20:00
greenmanspiritstill small20:00
greenmanspiritIt is active and set to 220:00
Guest59110gnugr: Thanks for your attention. Indicators are generally working properly, and Thunderbird is working properly. The missing piece is the way to connect them. If this works in Ubuntu MATE (I don't know), then there will be someone who just knows how it can be accomplished.20:26
winterkHeys. I'm trying to get Ubuntu MATE 18.04 running on a Lenovo Ideapad 110-15ACL. So far it booted fine and I've gone online - but I can't get audio to work. Can you provide some assistance on this?20:37
winterkI'm currently running off the LiveCD before I'm sure that I am ready to replace Windows 10.20:38
winterk(USB, naturally)20:38
alkisgIf you have hdmi connection, make sure you select it as the output device20:39
alkisg(for audio, that is)20:39
winterkOnly analog, and that's chosen. I'm trying to use the built-in speakers.20:39
alkisgTry `dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999`, maybe someone can pinpoint any issues in your dmesg20:41
winterkOh that's new.20:42
m4twinterk: maybe try installing alsa-utils if not already installed, and unmuting potentially muted-by-default interfaces20:44
m4tyou might need to F6 to select the proper sound card20:45
m4ter, using "alsamixer"20:45
winterkF6?20:45
winterkOh, in alsamixer?20:45
m4tyes. it might default to e.g. intel hdaudio over hdmi instead of the local sound card20:52
m4tfor example on mine i have both nvidia and intel gpu. it defaults to intel which is the audio output jacks on the mobo, but the nvidia is hdmi only20:53
m4ti actually noticed that in the 4.15 kernel my sound stopped working. it was i think due to a newer sound driver which made unmuting the "HP/Speaker Auto Detect" control necessary to get any sound20:55
winterkm4t, this looks like a lead. There's a HD-Audio Generic in addition to HDMI, and HDMI was selected.20:57
winterkI should note that I'm not the actual user, he is remote on the phone and I am assisting20:57
m4toh, well the system default per alsa is different than the one selected in mate via pulseaudio20:57
winterkahh.20:57
winterkDo we need to save configuration somehow or is choosing the new device in alsamixer affecting things instantly?20:58
m4tno, it isn't choosing the device there that is persistent. it is unmuting a potentially muted control20:58
winterkOh20:58
m4t"pavucontrol" is where you select the sound card pulse uses20:58
winterkWhich one is Firefox using by default? ALSA or PulseAudio?20:59
m4tprobably pulseaudio20:59
m4tfirefox actually dropped direct alsa support somewhat recently iirc21:00
m4tif you unmute a control in alsamixer and that fixes sound, then a simple reboot should save the state (/etc/init.d/alsa-utils or the systemd equivalent) and restore it on every boot thereafter21:01
winterkLets see with pavucontrol21:01
m4tor i think you could do: sudo service alsa-utils restart21:01
m4ti was under the impression you'd already configured the correct output device in pavucontrol and was still getting no sound...21:01
m4tif you haven't done that then yeah, pavucontrol is the first place to look/configure/select things21:02
winterkWe havent done anything. This is a LiveCD running fresh off the USB thumbdrive.21:03
winterkI am currently instructing him to install pavucontrol21:04
m4tah well actually, you should be able to just right-click the speaker/volume icon in the top right notification area and select "Sound Preferences"21:05
m4tthey're basically the same...i kinda got the two mixed up.21:05
m4tthe one built-in to mate is called mate-volume-control. that's what is run when right-clicking and selecting "Sound Preferences"21:06
winterkSays he can see the volume bar for Firefox moving inside Pavucontrol so that means something's happening. No audio tho.21:07
m4tyeah do mate-volume-control instead, sorry.21:07
winterkIn the configuration tab he only has one profile available: Analog Stereo Duplex21:07
m4ti don't think pavucontrol will be persistent across sessions. mate-volume-control *will* as its state is saved and reloaded.21:07
winterkCool, but unfortunately we've already been there and couldn't find another option under Output. So.. not sure what to do next :)21:08
m4tuhm if there's only one sound card and one profile then only thing i can think is unmuting in alsa-mixer21:08
winterkCould it be a driver issue at this state? This is a RealTek chip21:08
m4tmaybe...21:08
m4tthe configuration tab in pavucontrol shows the available sound devices21:09
m4tbesides hitting 'm' to mute/unmute in alsamixer there is also e.g. the PCM and/or Master control which can be selected (with arrow keys) and arrow-up will maximize volume21:11
winterkThe Ideapad 110-15ACL uses the RealTek ALC233. Looks like there's some entries on that with Linux support.21:12
m4thttps://pasteboard.co/HlEiFrA.png is what i was referring to with the HP/Speaker Auto Detect control. it's selected and highlighted red.21:12
m4ter sorry https://pasteboard.co/HlEj3Bd.png21:13
m4tMM = muted, OO = unmuted21:14
winterkOh you think the speaker might be muted21:14
winterkThis is firefox tho so it's probably not using alsa21:14
m4tpulseaudio uses alsa.21:15
winterkAh21:15
m4tit lets multiple applications use the same sound card, mixes/resamples in software, then outputs to the actual alsa device21:15
m4tso there are controls visible in alsamixer that aren't visible in pavucontrol/mate-volume-control.21:15
m4teven if volume is cranked to 100% in mate, some control visible in alsamixer could be muted (or unmuted!) which is preventing output21:16
m4tsometimes having something *unmuted* can break things. here's what i'd suggest. open up alsamixer, and open up mate-volume-control. make sure the correct sound device is selected in both. then under Hardware tab in mate-volume-control use "test speakers"21:17
m4tif there's no sound, play around with alsamixer controls and try again21:17
m4tupdates made in alsamixer are instantaneous so there is no need to close/reopen between making changes21:18
winterkSo we're looking to tweak Speaker Auto Detect specifically?21:18
m4tnot necessarily...that is the issue i had with 4.15 kernel21:18
winterkOh. Which slider are we looking for then?21:19
m4tit could be something else. that's why i suggested bringing everything to 100%, making sure everything is OO instead of MM (muted)21:19
winterkAh.21:19
winterkOnly muted output device is Headphones. Trying to unmute...21:20
winterkMax volume, no change21:20
m4t:(21:21
winterkI'm guessing that's the headphones port, as labeled21:22
m4tnot necessarily :|21:22
winterkNope, it is! He just tried. The analog headphones jack is working21:22
m4tit's not one size fits all as far as port naming is going21:22
winterkNo speakers tho~21:22
m4tcool...21:22
winterkOkay thats good news. Means the driver is.. fine? I guess!21:23
m4ti guess then you could try muting other devices and unplugging the headphones21:23
m4tyeah, at least partially21:23
m4ti had an awful issue on my ca0132 where the spdif (optical) port would *not* work with the upstream kernel driver. some hdaudio port assignments were mixed up in the actual driver source and had to be swapped in order for it to work.21:24
m4tit could be something like that, just throwing it out there, hopefully not though. i'll see if anyone else has reported issues with that laptop...21:24
winterkOr the sound chip!21:26
m4twell. if it works in windows it's probably not that21:27
m4tto be clear, they haven't had headphones plugged in the entire time have they? re: the hp/speaker auto detect thing. sometimes there is a mini switch built into the headphone jack. it detects when something is plugged in and mutes the speakers.21:29
winterkNope. He just plugged them in to test right now21:29
m4tk21:29
m4tsomeone on the debian mailing list a ideapad 110 said that the following fixed it : pactl set-card-profile 1 output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo21:31
m4thowever you've previously stated that there is only ONE profile available in mate-volume-control21:31
m4trunning pactl would essentially do the same thing as selecting a different profile in mate-volume-control21:31
winterkYeah we're pretty lost right now except just giving up and using headphones.21:34
m4tcan't say you didn't try21:37
winterkThanks~21:44
m4t¯\_(ツ)_/¯21:51
mate|6909help-me, a lost my all partitions of windows and my file files after isntall of ubuntu mate. and now waths a solution?23:51
lapagamate|6909, you will get more help in #ubuntu23:53

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