[00:00] <matjam> can you go to https://paste.ubuntu.com/ and paste the output of "mount" and "lvs" and "vgs"
[00:03] <matjam> then send me the link, of course
[00:03] <matjam> :-)
[00:09] <PastorBones> let me boot back up the live...
[00:09] <PastorBones> should I run these as sudo?
[00:10] <PastorBones> getting permission errors on the lvs command
[00:10] <PastorBones> and the vgs
[00:11] <matjam> yeah you will need to be root
[00:11] <swift110> hey all
[00:13] <RoadRunner> matjam: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YcW9HHRSc8/
[00:15] <matjam> sec
[00:15] <matjam> looks like root is mounted inside the gui? You should be able to umount it with "umount /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root"
[00:17] <RoadRunner> matjam: could it be mounted inside a gui because gparted is running?
[00:17] <matjam> eh, gparted shouldn't be mounting things
[00:17] <matjam> try the umount first
[00:17] <matjam> as root
[00:18] <PastorBones> matjam: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2WQ74RXDqf
[00:19] <matjam> hang on RoadRunner and PastorBones are you guys the same?
[00:19] <matjam> I got you both confused
[00:19] <matjam> lol
[00:20] <PastorBones> nope...I got the chown / problem
[00:20] <RoadRunner> matjam: no I am just RoadRunner :)
[00:20] <matjam> ok, so, RoadRunner your filesystem should be unmounted
[00:20] <PastorBones> I will wait... 😉
[00:20] <RoadRunner> matjam: it seems to have accepted your command. How to verify? type in mount again?
[00:22] <matjam> RoadRunner: no, you can now do whatever things you want to do in gparted
[00:22] <matjam> I assume why you wanted that filesystem unmounted
[00:22] <matjam> PastorBones: so, I'm not sure how to fix that
[00:23] <PastorBones> I assumed it would be easier to just backup and reinstall.
[00:23] <matjam> PastorBones: what did you do exactly? chown / to your user?
[00:23] <matjam> PastorBones: probably, though http://hyperlogos.org/page/Restoring-Permissions-Debian-System
[00:23] <PastorBones> but once I noticed it only got lib64 I hoped there was an easier way
[00:23] <matjam> PastorBones: well
[00:23] <PastorBones> I did sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /
[00:24] <matjam> PastorBones: ah that will kill it lol
[00:24] <PastorBones> lolya...just a lil bit
[00:24] <matjam> PastorBones: it might have got into /dev
[00:24] <PastorBones> ok...no worries. just games and my webserver on it.
[00:24] <matjam> I honestly would re-install just to be safe
[00:25] <matjam> RoadRunner: I'm heading out, hope that helped yuou
[00:25] <PastorBones> thx matjam...you're the best. btw, how many more years you planning on hanging around in here? lol
[00:25] <matjam> ha
[00:25] <PastorBones> 😉 peace
[00:26] <RoadRunner> matjam: yes, just wanted to know how you recognized that as THE file system?
[00:26] <matjam> i looked for "root" in the paste
[00:27] <matjam> I think xubuntu decided to automount your / filesystem in /media/xubuntu/... because its an ext4 filesystem and it's trying to be helpful
[00:27] <RoadRunner> matjam: just checked the fs using the same path, seems ok
[00:29] <RoadRunner> matjam: so now, I'll use the same path to shrink it: "sudo lvreduce --resizefs -L 30G /dev//mapper/xubuntu--vg-root" correct?
[00:30] <matjam> you need to shrink the filesystem first
[00:30] <matjam> I think
[00:30] <matjam> resize2fs /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root 30G
[00:30] <matjam> should do it
[00:30] <RoadRunner> matjam: here https://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume  it says the above command does both at the same time
[00:31] <matjam> ah that would be the --resizefs
[00:31] <matjam> yeah you are probably good to go
[00:31] <RoadRunner> matjam: many thanks :)
[00:34] <OdicforceSounds> hi all, does anyone can tell me what service open a locahost:6667 services at init, that is not explicity an IRC_server ?
[00:36] <rypervenche> OdicforceSounds: Is this starting up on your machine?
[00:36] <OdicforceSounds> rypervenche: yes
[00:36] <rypervenche> OdicforceSounds: Can you run this for us? "sudo ss -plnt"
[00:37] <rypervenche> OdicforceSounds: And pastebin the output please.
[00:38] <OdicforceSounds> rypervenche: https://pastebin.com/EzxwN3VK
[00:39] <neildugan> Hi I am getting lots of errors like : "May 17 10:36:23 robin kernel: [  435.241641] ata15.00: failed command: FLUSH CACHE EXT" ....  but ata15 is not mentioned in /dev/disk/by-path (others are) ... any ideas on how to fix this?
[00:40] <rypervenche> OdicforceSounds: Unless I don't understand how systemd works, I'd say that that's a problem.
[00:41] <OdicforceSounds> rypervenche: suggestion?
[00:41] <RoadRunner> how long is lvreduce and resizefs from 75-30GB likely to take?
[00:42] <rypervenche> OdicforceSounds: Have you installed any packages from outside of your official Ubuntu repositories?
[00:42] <rypervenche> RoadRunner: Not long at all normally. Shrinking might take longer, I guess, but not by much I don't think.
[00:44] <OdicforceSounds> rypervenche: I guess I didn't ... I will check what software is installed then.. thnks
[00:44] <rypervenche> OdicforceSounds: If it's what I think it is, then you should reinstall.
[00:54] <OdicforceSounds> rypervenche: it was bitlbee
[00:55] <OdicforceSounds> I did install it from ubuntu sources anyway, as I was testing it, I did installed yesterday and yeah.. I removed and vuala.. no more IRC service in that machine!
[01:01] <rypervenche> Weird.
[01:06] <jeffrey_f> Does there exist a script to move a the /home to another disk/partition?
[01:09] <ClydeSlims> I'm trying to add SSH keys to a new user I made. I have two users: ron and tod
[01:09] <Two_Dogs> jeffrey_f: the home folder to its own partition?
[01:09] <ClydeSlims> I already have an SSH keys for ron under /home/ron/.ssh/authorized_keys that I made with putty gen. I also have one for tod: /home/tod/.ssh/authorized_keys
[01:09] <ClydeSlims> However, when I use the private key in PuTTy I made for tod, it keeps trying to use the username 'ron'
[01:09] <ClydeSlims> and I have no idea why.
[01:11] <rypervenche> jeffrey_f: Nope. You would just do that manually.
[01:12] <rypervenche> ClydeSlims: So you made two separate keys using PuTTY?
[01:13] <ClydeSlims> rypervenche, I generated it, then I saved the public key and private key to my desktop. Then I took the contents of the public key and put it under /home/tod/authorized_keys.
[01:13] <ClydeSlims> Then I use the private key to attempt to login and it keeps trying to use the one for ron
[01:13] <ClydeSlims> even though I'm using tod's private key...
[01:14] <rypervenche> ClydeSlims: Likely a PuTTY thing then. I'd recommend using either something like Babun or the Linux subsystem and use a real terminal and real openSSH.
[01:19] <matlock> how hard would it be to re-package the clear linux kernel into an ubuntu ppa?
[01:20] <matlock> it would be an instant speed-up for intel users
[01:20] <matlock> intel posts their kernels as rpms, could probably be converted to deb
[01:21] <SporkWitch> matlock: ever done any packaging? :P
[01:21] <matlock> none of the custom optimizations will ever be upstreamed into linux kernel, they can't, nor can ubuntu adopt them because their amd64 has to work well on amd and older intel too
[01:21] <matlock> yeah, it's a real pain in the ass, even snaps are
[01:22] <SporkWitch> ClydeSlims: the correct location for authorized_keys is ~/.ssh/authorized_keys the correct permissions for the file are 0600, and i've seen some versions of ssh require ~/.ssh to have 0700
[01:22] <Hashtag> Who manages apt? Seems like a big responsibility.
[01:23] <ClydeSlims> SporkWitch, yeah those are all correct. Turns out it's a bug in PuTTy.
[01:23] <ClydeSlims> oh well
[01:23] <matlock> it's broken down into teams hashtag, long-established processed are followed
[01:23] <rypervenche> matlock: I suppose there's always alien.
[01:24] <SporkWitch> ClydeSlims: also, if you're forced to use windows, I recommend BitVise Tunnellier over putty, more feature rich and a bit nicer to work with; the WSL is semi-usable as long as you have local privkeys; it has no USB access, so hardware tokens aren't an option
[01:26] <Hashtag> matlock: I'm guessing it's part of the debian project?
[01:27] <matlock> hashtag initially, but then it filters down through ubuntu's apt services and other distro's own apt services, like devuan
[01:27] <matlock> each distro has a process for approving and distributing those new packages according to their release strategy
[01:28] <hggdh> I am guessing the "clear linux kernel" is the kernel as published by upstream; if I am correct, then it is already available; see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[01:28] <Hashtag> interesting
[01:29]  * SporkWitch needs to read up on how apt improves over apt-get and/or aptitude...
[01:29] <matlock> hggdh, the clear linux kernel is the not the upstream kernel, it is a heavily patched version of the linux kernel distributed by intel as part of their clear linux reference distro
[01:29] <hggdh> matlock: I stand corrected :-)
[01:30] <matlock> hggdh the clear linux kernel rips out all kinds of AMD and non-x86 stuff, also includes a bunch of special optimizations that could probably never be upstreamed or included in a mainstream distro
[01:31] <matlock> the only distro that does ship them is solus, but it would be cool if you could add via ppa in ubuntu
[01:31] <SporkWitch> sounds like something to ask intel to package and maintain lol
[01:32] <matlock> maybe, but they are pushing their own distro and already publish rpms
[01:32] <hggdh> matlock: I understand. Well, you can package it in a PPA but it will (probably) never be a generally available kernel in any main distro (since it targets only Intel)
[01:32] <SporkWitch> ^ this, and it also means there's little incentive for someone to step up and maintain it, due to the limited utility
[01:34] <SporkWitch> i can say that after the PITA that was my first attempt at packaging and setting up a PPA, I have no interest in trying to support multiple architectures; I'll keep it working on AMD64 on current LTS, since that's what I use, but it just isn't worth the effort to go more nuanced
[01:34] <jeffrey_f> rypervenche: I figured as much......
[01:34] <matlock> I wouldn't discount people wanting speed on their laptops, maybe someone will want it enough who has capability to do it, people go out of their way to publish other custom kernels via PPA
[01:35] <SporkWitch> matlock: i think you're probably overstating the performance difference vs effort
[01:35] <RoadRunner> trying to downsize an lvm partition but seems something went wrong, Gparted still sees the partition at its former size and can't reduce it (only thinkg that changed is it sees it as only 30GB used)  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VW9ncRNP75/
[01:35] <SporkWitch> matlock: there's a reason almost no one bothers recompiling their kernels anymore; hardware is just so much faster now, the benefits just don't justify the effort
[01:36] <matlock> effort in terms of installing a ppa and updating off it? that's not much effort; the performance improvement on intel x86 chips are a magnitude of 2-3 on many tasks in clear linux compared to ubuntu
[01:37] <SporkWitch> i'd be really curious to see those benchmarks, though it'd be hard to get an apples-to-apples comparison unless you are running otherwise identical systems; ubuntu and its derivatives do add a fair bit of candy that's going to impact performance
[01:37] <matlock> source of performance stats: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu1804-fedora28-clear&num=1
[01:37] <SporkWitch> yeah, so we're comparing complete distros, not just kernels
[01:38] <SporkWitch> you're looking at a lot more differences than just a kernel here
[01:38] <SporkWitch> also, x86? wtf are you doing running x86 in 2018? lol
[01:39] <SporkWitch> i assume you mean x86_64, better known as AMD64?
[01:39] <matlock> yes, x86_64
[01:41] <SporkWitch> assuming the source is public, nothing stopping you from compiling and running that kernel yourself; i'd be far more interested in seeing a benchmark on a 100% identical system, with the kernel being the only exception.  You could even do this on the same machine with a reboot between benchmarks
[01:42] <SporkWitch> 2-3x is pretty massive, and if it's just kernel optimizations, that isn't just massive, that's unbelievable (literally, heh)
[01:43] <matlock> yeah, it's not just the kernel, looks like someone has already tried this
[01:43] <matlock> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-clear-tweaks&num=1
[01:43] <matlock> they did not get the same increases you see across the distros, i realize now clear linux and solus are also rebuilding all system libraries with glibc optimizations, that would require a lot more than just one package
[01:44] <RoadRunner> sorry, dropped connection, if someone answered me regarding my lvm downsizing issue, please repeat, thanks :)
[01:45] <SporkWitch> matlock: read the last page, it's addressing (and concluding) pretty much what i did, though admittedly he's basing it on more than intuition
[02:04] <RoadRunner> seems the logical volume went down from 74 to 30GB but the file system is still seen as 74... and I can't find my root fs (had to reboot)  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xW9P7PvtfH/ Help?
[02:05] <cfhowlett> !lvm | RoadRunner, I've ZERO experience but the factoids might be worth reading
[02:06] <cfhowlett> no doubt, more current information is available
[02:07] <xamithan> Can you just lvextend -r the xubuntu-vg/root ?
[02:09] <RoadRunner> I've already followed advise from here https://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume and it is that 2 in one command  "sudo lvreduce --resizefs -L 30G /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root" that had created the screw up.  Wish I just did it one at a time... No how to fix the mess...?
[02:10] <xamithan> Just try doing a lvextend -r -l 100%FREE /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root
[02:12] <RoadRunner> xamithan: I had to reboot since so my root fs is no longer  at /dev/mapper; where it is now - I don't know  and can't find it; that's why I included the paste above
[02:12] <RoadRunner> xamithan: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xW9P7PvtfH/
[02:13] <xamithan> Well it is somewhere because it shows up in lvs
[02:13] <matjam> RoadRunner: you took a full backup, right? :-)
[02:13]  * cfhowlett thinks "of COURSE he did!"
[02:14]  * matjam backs up his linux machine to his NAS every day
[02:14] <RoadRunner> matjam: no important data there, but I'd rather not have to give up on that partition because of the settings
[02:14] <matjam> RoadRunner: I would try the e2resizefs command anyway
[02:14] <xamithan> Is it just under /dev/xubuntu-vg/root ?
[02:14] <matjam> because it should do it right
[02:15] <matjam> resize2fs
[02:16] <xamithan> Thats how my LVM shows up anyway,  so a lvextend -r -l 100%FREE /dev/xubuntu-vg/root might work
[02:16] <RoadRunner> xamithan: could you please exlpain that sysntax to me?
[02:17] <RoadRunner> matjam: would resize2fs work on lvs fs?
[02:17] <xamithan> the -l is for the extents,  telling it to use all available space from the VG,  and -r will autoresize the filesystem
[02:18] <xamithan> That'll get it back to 74gigs,  if that is what you want to do.  If you just want to resize the FS down to 30gb try resize2fs
[02:19] <xamithan> I just like using the -r switch since you don't need to do two commands
[02:19] <RoadRunner> according to man resize2fs is for ext2,3,4 so would it work for lvs?
[02:19] <xamithan> You can use it for lvreduce too
[02:19] <matjam> the lv is just a block device, it has ext4 on it
[02:20] <RoadRunner> ok, so the last q is how to make sure where my root fs actually is?
[02:20] <RoadRunner> can you guys see it in my "mount" paste?
[02:21] <xamithan> I would assume /dev/xubuntu-vg/root  if it isn't in mapper
[02:21] <matjam> tis /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root
[02:22] <RoadRunner> matjam: tis?
[02:22] <matjam> tis poor yorrick, for I knew him well
[02:22] <matjam> tis but a dream
[02:23] <RoadRunner> ok, ok :) you Shakespeare lover you :)
[02:23] <cfhowlett> WWWD?
[02:27] <RoadRunner> matjam: so: "resize2fs /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root 30G"?
[02:29] <Yourock17> Hi
[02:30] <matjam> RoadRunner: should be good. Not warranties though, you might end up blowing it all up :P
[02:30]  * matjam reboots to install Ubuntu Budgie
[02:37] <RoadRunner> matjam: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZGpZJfXzFX/ how to proceed?
[02:46] <RoadRunner> matjam: I can guess you are likely getting tired of my newbie questions, but please don't leave me now :)
[02:58] <RoadRunner> ok, I executed the command and was told that the file system is already that size so "nothing to do" yet the partition still can't be decreased in size
[03:02] <debauchery1st> anyone around?
[03:02] <psilicon> Yes, lots of people.
[03:03] <cfhowlett> only 1606 or so ...
[03:03] <RoadRunner> I'd like to issue lvreduce command sepparately but there is no man on it. Would this be correct "sudo lvreduce  -L 30G /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root"?
[03:04] <debauchery1st> I'm re-installing ubuntu and I can't format my old partition
[03:04] <debauchery1st> It says it's formatted, and then it's not
[03:04] <cfhowlett> what is the error message, debauchery1st
[03:04] <debauchery1st> there's no error. it's very strange
[03:04] <SwedeMike> RoadRunner: "man lvreduce" works for me. And yes, it looks like that would be correct. You know what it does, right?
[03:05] <RoadRunner> SwedeMike: should reduce the lvm partition size
[03:05] <SwedeMike> RoadRunner: yes, and you know it only does that, it does nothing to the filesystem?
[03:05] <cfhowlett> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit    debauchery1st
[03:06] <RoadRunner> SwedeMike: yes, the fs is already suppose to be shrunk
[03:06] <SwedeMike> RoadRunner: ok, then yes, that should work fine.
[03:06] <RoadRunner> SwedeMike: wonder why my man has nothing on lvreduce, what ver os are you running?
[03:07] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, https://pastebin.com/ihV4a3GC
[03:07] <SwedeMike> RoadRunner: both ubuntu and debian have manpages for lvreduce when I check.
[03:07] <cfhowlett> debauchery1st, ah,  sudo gdisk -l | grep pastebinit        because GPT not MBR
[03:09] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, https://pastebin.com/fimgGDKd
[03:09] <RoadRunner> SwedeMike: 16.04 gets me nothing; do get it under 18.04
[03:11] <cfhowlett> debauchery1st, ah, yes.  the hybrid gpt/mbr.  I suspect you're running into a permission restriction.
[03:14] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, is there a solution for that?
[03:15] <cfhowlett> debauchery1st, haven't found the easy analysis fix yet.
[03:15] <debauchery1st> I'm on the kubuntu 18.04 live usb stick
[03:15] <w5io> I'm working with xubuntu 18.04 -how do I set up a l2tp vpn connection?
[03:16] <cfhowlett> debauchery1st, is this your first installation of *buntu to this device?
[03:16] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, hardly. I'm a developer. python mostly.
[03:16] <cfhowlett> :)   alrighty then
[03:17] <w5io> ..all I see is pptp option.
[03:17] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, I think I have mint on there
[03:17] <cfhowlett> possible work around: purge the current partitions then repartition?
[03:18] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, I tried that with gparted
[03:18] <t_> Just coming here to thank whoever wrote the driver to work with hdmi cable / tv
[03:18] <t_> THANK YOU
[03:18] <debauchery1st> I even booted into the mac partition and tried to delete them in disk-utility
[03:19] <debauchery1st> it just wont erase
[03:19] <cfhowlett> I've seen this with windows.  partition lock due to improper/incomplete windows shutdown
[03:20] <debauchery1st> you think I need to boot windows and do a shutdown /h ?
[03:20] <cfhowlett> if you have windows then yes.  merely speculating here ...
[03:20] <debauchery1st> they're on different disks
[03:21] <debauchery1st> physically speaking
[03:21] <operator-error> cfhowlett: correct.  debauchery1st: doesn't matter if they're different physical disks.
[03:22] <cfhowlett> yep ...
[03:22] <debauchery1st> operator-error, that's interesting.
[03:23] <debauchery1st> I'll be back.
[03:23] <operator-error> debauchery1st: you could also force the drive to mount in read/write mode in Linux.
[03:24] <RoadRunner> SwedeMike: this is where I am at https://i.imgur.com/tGWoqcT.png any idea how to proceed?
[03:26] <operator-error> cfhowlett: if debaucher1st comes back and needs to know how to force-mount a windows partition/drive (that wasn't properly shutdown) under Linux, point him to https://blog.arvixe.com/how-to-force-mount-unclean-shutdowned-windows-ntfs-or-fat32-drive-in-linux/
[03:27] <operator-error> cfhowlett: if debaucher1st comes back and needs to know how to force-mount a windows partition/drive (that wasn't properly shutdown) under Linux, point him to https://blog.arvixe.com/how-to-force-mount-unclean-shutdowned-windows-ntfs-or-fat32-drive-in-linux/
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !cookie | operator-error
[03:27] <cfhowlett> wilco
[03:28] <operator-error> :)  Mmmmmm, cooooookiiiieeeeee.
[03:29] <Draegon> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on a dual monitor system, kernel version is 4.4.0-124-generic, and the system is updated every day (when updates available). I installed Digimend v7 drivers a couple days ago, and the Stylus Pen for my Ugee graphics tablet now draws smoothly, and has pressure sensitivity, which is perfect. Is there any way to change the Hot Key assignment, and tie the tablet resolution to the same as one of my monitors?
[03:29] <w5io> Anyone have successful experience connecting to a l2tp vpn in x18.04?
[03:30] <SlidingHorn> Draegon: what version and flavor OS are you running?
[03:30] <Draegon> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[03:35] <debauchery1st> operator-error, I properly shutdown windows
[03:35] <cfhowlett> operator-error> cfhowlett: if debaucher1st comes back and needs to know how to force-mount a windows partition/drive (that wasn't properly shutdown) under Linux, point him to https://blog.arvixe.com/how-to-force-mount-unclean-shutdowned-windows-ntfs-or-fat32-drive-in-linux/
[03:35] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, I'm back
[03:35] <cfhowlett> proceed with partitioning/formatting
[03:36] <Draegon> Currently, the issues I still need to resolve is Hotkey Buttons, assign Single not Dual Monitor usage for my graphics tablet, and force/fix the Tablet to Monitor resolution as circles come out as egg shaped.
[03:38] <SwedeMike> RoadRunner: proceed with what? I have no idea what you're trying to do.
[03:38] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, I get a "can have overlapping partitions" error
[03:39] <cfhowlett> never worked with that one.  move a partition should clear it???
[03:41] <SwedeMike> RoadRunner: btw, I tend to resizefs to 5% less than the underlying device, just to make sure I overrun the partition. Then I shrink the lv, then I resizefs again so it can detect the new size
[03:41] <SwedeMike> RoadRunner: I wouldn't trust resize2fs and lvreduce to agree that "30G" is the same thing.
[03:42] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, https://pastebin.com/GVcLX3Hk
[03:43] <cfhowlett> I see a lot of success.  We happy?
[03:43] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, https://pastebin.com/8TQH8QXp
[03:43] <debauchery1st> that's what's so strange.
[03:44] <debauchery1st> it doesn't actually format
[03:44] <cfhowlett> yeah line 28 ...
[03:44] <cfhowlett> I don't get it
[03:44] <FaTaL_G> dang frustrating... I did a update & upgrade, and now my system on reboot, had my ethernet IP offline by default, I had to force it ifup
[03:44] <cfhowlett> and will have to suggest you ask someone who knows.
[03:44] <FaTaL_G> and my additional network card is seen, but not servicing ip address via dhcp
[03:45] <FaTaL_G> anyone have a suggestion what I should look at to see why the network device isnt working even though its listed?
[03:45] <debauchery1st> FaTaL_G, wifi?
[03:46] <FaTaL_G> yes and no
[03:46] <FaTaL_G> the wifi works, and the intel i219v 201 work
[03:46] <FaTaL_G> The enp4s0f# does not
[03:48] <debauchery1st> systemd
[03:48] <FaTaL_G> Im worried that the kernel update did it.... (04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82580 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01))
[03:49] <debauchery1st> I'd suggest hopping on a live usb of 18.04
[03:49] <cfhowlett> FaTaL_G, easy enough to analyze.  reboot, hit esc after bootsplash to bring up grub, select "old ubuntu" and see what happens
[03:52] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, do you think the hardware could be the problem?
[03:53] <cfhowlett> highly doubtful.  this is a partitioning error, i.e. at the software level.
[03:53] <cfhowlett> IMO
[03:54] <debauchery1st> it runs. ubuntu works on that partition.
[03:54] <debauchery1st> I just don't want that flavor any more
[03:54] <cfhowlett> wait, what?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> if you want to change ubuntu flavors, do NOT reinstall.
[03:54] <FaTaL_G> I statically set the ip, and it worked
[03:55] <cfhowlett> e.g. sudo apt purge ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop will yield a Kubuntu system
[03:55] <FaTaL_G> so its not assigning IP on those nics, but it is via wifi and my intel onboard nics
[03:56] <debauchery1st> cfhowlett, my apt-get sort of broke
[03:57] <debauchery1st> I started getting "import debian.deb822" errors
[03:57] <cfhowlett> then do it from the USB: boot USB, chroot to your system then execute the command on that traget
[03:57] <cfhowlett> no idea what that error meas
[03:57] <cfhowlett> means
[03:57] <debauchery1st> I'm on the kubuntu usb
[03:58] <cfhowlett> same process.  what is your end goal?
[03:58] <debauchery1st> my end goal was to have a clean system
[03:58] <debauchery1st> I saved my important files and decided to reinstall
[03:58] <cfhowlett> cool.   starting point/system was ...?
[03:59] <debauchery1st> I think it may have been mint 17
[03:59] <cfhowlett> then my suggestion won't work and you should install ubuntu the normal way.
[03:59] <debauchery1st> that's what I'm trying to do.
[04:00] <Draegon> Is there any way to assign/change hotkey association on a graphics tablet (standard tablet, no on board OS) in ubuntu 16.04?
[04:01] <w5io> need help with xubuntu 18.04 with 4,15 kernel and l2tp vpn
[04:01] <Alion001> Why Then Is This "FATAL" And To WHO: modprobe: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper is in use.
[04:01] <debauchery1st> I'll see if moving the SSD to a USB case has an affect on the permission problem
[04:01] <w5io> Anyone mess with this yet?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> debauchery1st, great experiment!  let us know the outcome, debauchery1st
[04:02] <debauchery1st> ok
[04:02] <debauchery1st> bbl
[04:11] <liveuser1> hi
[04:12] <liveuser1> jottr: what do you think about google docs
[04:12] <liveuser1> so much private writings never shared
[04:13] <liveuser1> do you reccommend using google docs for sharing
[04:13] <liveuser1> or RELEASE
[04:13] <cfhowlett> liveuser1, not an ubuntu support issue.  please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:14] <RoadRunner> SwedeMike: I am just trying to shrink my lvm partition and I took your advise and reduced the fs to 25GB while trying to reduce partition to 30GB. Terminal is telling me that all is done and is fine but GParted doesn't see the extra space and the lvm still is the same size as before
[04:15] <liveuser1> cfhowlett: is there a bazaar spot for the apparmor profile?
[04:15] <liveuser1> ubuntu has a skel by default where debian or kali doesn't
[04:16] <liveuser1> cfhowlett: making my own profile requires using more binaries
[04:16] <liveuser1> the complain binary etc
[04:18] <liveuser1> cfhowlett: ey, make yourself useful
[04:19] <liveuser1> ahbout that apparmor profile
[04:19] <liveuser1> !webkit
[04:19] <liveuser1> Is there a simpler browser available
[04:19] <liveuser1> webkit
[04:19] <liveuser1> !web-kit
[04:19] <cfhowlett> liveuser1, you are randomly jumping topics.  I suspect chatbot
[04:20] <BionicMac> O_o
[04:20] <FaTaL_G> o_0
[04:29] <underd0g> hello
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> underd0g: welcome, what can we do for you?
[04:29] <hide4> nothing, just testing haha
[04:30] <underd0g> nothing just testing
[04:30] <liveuser1> underd0g: testing what
[04:31] <cfhowlett> guys: this is the support channel.  please make a private channel for random chat
[04:31] <underd0g> liveuser1: new weechat config
[04:32] <Draegon> Anyone knowledge of graphics tablets>
[04:32] <Draegon> ?
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Draegon: best to ask your detailed question to the channel
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> !details | Draegon
[04:33] <Draegon> I asked earlier, but no response.
[04:33] <Draegon> Anyway "I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on a dual monitor system, kernel version is 4.4.0-124-generic, and the system is updated every day (when updates available). I installed Digimend v7 drivers a couple days ago, and the Stylus Pen for my Ugee graphics tablet now draws smoothly, and has pressure sensitivity, which is perfect. Is there any way to change the Hot Key assignment, and tie the tablet resolution to the same as one of my monitors?"
[04:33] <hide4> quit
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Draegon: can this help ? https://medium.com/@ahris/setting-up-wacom-tablets-with-ubuntu-16-04-d7277e4a595d
[04:42] <Draegon> lotuspsychje: That link is talking about installing drivers. I installed the Digimend v7 drivers a couple days ago. The stylus pen used to be jerky pixelated rubbish, now it has pressure sensitivity and smooth lines.
[04:49] <smiledays-1g> hello
[04:49] <matjam> hello smiledays-1g
[04:49] <Draegon> lotuspshchje: It says about using CLI to configure Tablet, Stylus, Eraser, and Cursor. The Stylus Pen has 2 buttons, they are currently doing the move canvas and popup the colour/pen wheel, I'm happy to keep that. What I want to edit is the 8 Hotkeys on the tablet itself. For example, I want to set Eraser as 1 of the hot keys, and Undo as another.
[04:51] <Draegon> The overview page relocates to another github page, and they talk about Kernel Driver, X Driver, and libwacom, which would I need, if either can help with what I'm trying to do?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Draegon: not sure how hotkeys work on tablets, have you tryed hotkeys in unity?
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !hotkeys | Draegon
[04:57] <matjam> Draegon: I think the digimend stuff also allows you to configure the hotkeys
[04:57] <matjam> Draegon: when I was looking at that stuff for you I noticed that it had that feature
[04:57] <Draegon> I have no idea of setting hot keys in ubuntu.
[04:58] <matjam> https://github.com/DIGImend/digimend-kernel-drivers/issues/10 might be relevant?
[04:58] <matjam> have you tried posting in the issues there, it seems there's people who know that hardware and can help if you can't find what you need
[04:58] <Draegon> Hi again Matjam, it works perfect for sensitivity and pressure since v7 was installed after you went zzz.
[04:58] <matjam> sorry, its just it's kinda esoteric hardware
[04:58] <lis_> MerlinJ82
[05:00] <lis_> sorry merlin
[05:00] <lis_> bye
[05:01] <ix> test
[05:01] <matjam> ix: success
[05:02] <ixxx> matjam i got a new video card and I need to use command line to toggle between motherboard analog audio out and hdmi digital out (from geforce card)
[05:02] <Draegon> I'll check that link. I have been by the wacom channel, but never anyone there.
[05:02] <pignu> hi - i'm using 16,04 how do I increase the guests hardrive space? its capped at 4gb
[05:02] <ixxx> It works when I change output device in playback, but I can't figure out command for terminal/shortcuts
[05:03] <matjam> Draegon: I have a lot more success posting into the issues app of github; developers that use github a lot tend to pay attention to stuff raised there.
[05:04] <Draegon> Ok, thanks.
[05:04] <Draegon> Do u think they'd be able to help tie up the resolution of tablet to monitor as well?
[05:05] <matjam> ixxx: I believe you need to use pactl
[05:05] <matjam> Draegon: you can ask, but I don't think that's possible
[05:05] <matjam> Draegon: X treats all input devices equally; you can't "bind" them to a specific display like that - I *think* - I don't know 100% for sure but again, those people know tablets, so if anyone knows it will be them.
[05:06] <Draegon> OK, thanks. I'll ask.
[05:06] <ixxx> matjam the card names that work are built-in audio analog stereo and gf108 hdmi4
[05:06] <ixxx> matjam the trick is the profiles are different AND the cards are different so I need to toggle profile AND card.
[05:07] <matjam> ixxx: I found this https://askubuntu.com/questions/71863/how-to-change-pulseaudio-sink-with-pacmd-set-default-sink-during-playback/72076#72076
[05:07] <matjam> dunno if that helps
[05:07] <Draegon> If I get any joy, I'll pop back to update you in case someone else asks similar.
[05:08] <matjam> Draegon: well, just posting an issue will help; it's searchable then - just make sure you post success there and what you did so others can stumble on it
[05:08] <matjam> Draegon: https://xkcd.com/979/
[05:10] <Draegon> OK, thanks again for your help, and information.
[05:15] <pignu> none                         3,9G  1,4G  2,5G  35% /tmp/guest-... how do I increase the size of this partition
[05:17] <ixxx> matjam nothing i do works
[05:23] <jerry> www
[05:23] <matjam> ixxx: you've reached the limit of my knowledge with pulseaudio i'm afraid
[05:24] <matjam> i just click on stuff and it works? lol
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> ixxx: did you try pavucontrol yet?
[05:26] <ixxx> matjam what's funny is it used to work on this very computer. the only part that changed is i got a new video card (old one died). ONLY DIFFERENCE IS CURRENT CARD DOES NOT REQUIRE SPDIF WIRES!
[05:26] <ixxx> lotuspsychje it works in pavucontrol. I just need it to work via command line.
[05:27] <ixxx> lotuspsychje matjam I think what happened is in the past I only had one "audio device" because the HDMI video card was getting the audio signal via the SPDIF out on the MOBO. The current card is its own audio device and gets the audio straight from the PCIe slot
[05:30] <ixxx> OK Ill deal with it tomorrow.
[06:23] <Nebi> Good morning,unfortunately I still have the same issue but this morning the behavior changed a bit https://askubuntu.com/questions/1037166/freeze-at-login-screen-ubuntu-16-04-unknown-reason-after-doing-many-things
[06:23] <Nebi> Since this morning it doesn't entirely freeze anymore but the graphic display blinks as if it tries to enter into graphics mode
[06:24] <Nebi> and when persistently clicking ctr+alt+2 i can even go into tty
[06:26] <Nebi> Can anyone help?
[06:27] <two_dogs_> Nebi: explain
[06:28] <Nebi> two_dogs_, I put the entire description in the follwoing link including xorg-log and command-log of what I did: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1037166/freeze-at-login-screen-ubuntu-16-04-unknown-reason-after-doing-many-things
[06:28] <Nebi> two_dogs_, since yesterdasy Istarted to ahve a freeze at login screen. without being able to do anything else (going into tty)
[06:29] <Nebi> two_dogs_, since this morning it doesnt freeze anymore but the screen blinks as if it tries to change the graphics mode. I now can also change into tty
[06:29] <Nebi> two_dogs_ the problem is I did a lot of things yesterday. One at the very end was in /usr/lib doing rm libprotobuf*
[06:30] <two_dogs_> Nebi: and gcc
[06:30] <Nebi> two_dogs_ I updated gcc to 8, changed later to 5.4, now again at 8
[06:31] <Nebi> two_dogs_ gcc --version sais 8.0.1
[06:32] <two_dogs_> Nebi: what is the defaut gcc for your version?
[06:32] <Nebi> two_dogs_ it was 5.4 previously
[06:32] <Nebi> two_dogs_ one thing I was trying to comile yesterday needed higher gcc version
[06:33] <Nebi> two_dogs_ could this be the reason?
[06:34] <two_dogs_> Nebi: revert gcc to default install, reinstall package where libprotobuf* is reinstalled
[06:36] <Nebi> two_dogs_ ok Im on it. I will do apt remove gcc-8 and g++-8
[06:37] <two_dogs_> Nebi: ok
[06:37] <ducasse> Nebi: which release is this?
[06:39] <Nebi> ducasse, stable release. Version 8.0.1
[06:39] <ducasse> Nebi: no, of ubuntu
[06:40] <Nebi> ducasse, ah 16.04, kernel: 4.4.0-124-generic
[06:41] <Nebi> two_dogs_ ok I did both things and screen still flashing
[06:42] <ducasse> if you try booting a live usb, does that work properly? what about an 18.04 live usb?
[06:42] <Nebi> two_dogs_ ah "gcc is currently not installed. i have to change version"
[06:43] <Nebi> ducasse, yes booting a live usb worked when removing nomodeset (whih was weird). When I remove nomodeset in te normal boot it also behaves differently but still doesnt enter into login screen
[06:43] <Nebi> ducasse, I had 16.04 live usb but already downloaded 18.04 just in case
[06:44] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: was nvidia driver installed and working prior?
[06:45] <Nebi> update-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/gcc is dangling: itt will be opdated with ebst choice. There is only one alternative...
[06:45] <Nebi> shall i just sudo apt install gcc?
[06:46] <Nebi> Two_Dogs yes nvidia driver was installed and working with CUDA. I havent touched the direct driver yesterday but many things that I did were linked to graphics (I was trying to install caffe, was changing versions of opencv and was mainly trying to install openpose)
[06:47] <Nebi> Two_Days however I had problems with the nvidia drivers in the past when I was trying to make CUDA run.
[06:47] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: type 'two' and tap tab key
[06:48] <Nebi> Two_DOgs twopi?
[06:48] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> glxinfo | grep -i render | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[06:49] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: it is simpler to autocomplete a nick via entry of the first 2-3 letters and then pressing 'tab' key
[06:50] <Norux> is ubuntu part of the GNU project?
[06:50] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, ah sorry now I see what you meant :) Thanks for the tip!
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> !gnu | Norux
[06:51] <Norux> lotuspsychje: I know that, but does "based on" mean "part of"?
[06:51] <Norux> it's not listed on http://gnu.org
[06:52] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, output was: nc: getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution. Error: unable to open display
[06:52] <Two_Dogs> a pure gnu distro would suck Norux
[06:52] <ducasse> Norux: no, it's not. it uses lots of gnu software, though
[06:53] <Norux> ducasse: thanks, that's the answer I wanted. :+1:
[06:53] <confluency> "Based on" does not mean "part of".
[06:53] <confluency> In general, not just in this case.
[06:53] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: show here the exact line executed
[06:54] <Norux> confluency: does this mean that the ubuntu core relies on non-free software components?
[06:54] <confluency> What's "the Ubuntu core"?
[06:55] <Norux> confluency: I mean the OS itself, not the software you can install though packages. e.g. the ubuntu server without any additional things
[06:55] <confluency> Norux: what is "the OS itself"?
[06:55] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, rebooting...
[06:55] <confluency> The "server" distribution is a particular collection of packages.
[06:56] <Norux> confluency: and do any of those packages rely on non-free software?
[06:56] <Norux> (or are)
[06:56] <Two_Dogs> Norux: look at every license agreement
[06:57] <confluency> I have no idea.
[06:57] <Norux> ok thanks :)
[06:57] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, glxinfo | grep -i render | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:57] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, output: Error: unable to open display
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Norux: from the wiki: Ubuntu operates under the GNU General Public License (GPL) and all of the application software installed by default is free software. In addition, Ubuntu installs some hardware drivers that are available only in binary format, but such packages are clearly marked in the restricted component
[06:58] <Norux> lotuspsychje: awesome, thanks!!!
[06:58] <Two_Dogs> Nebi:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> sudo apt install inxi
[06:59] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, inxi is already the newest version
[06:59] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Gxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[07:00] <Nebi> termbin.com/hsn0
[07:00] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, sorry: http://termbin.com/gsn0
[07:01] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, aha, so clearly graphics?
[07:02] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: maybe, or inxi in tty dont see graphics
[07:02] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, ah ok
[07:02] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> pstree -nsupa | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[07:03] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: thought about re-install of system? got a separate home partition?
[07:03] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, http://termbin.com/1r3b
[07:05] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, well I wouldnt fancy it because it was quite some heavy work to have the current state running with CUDA. But in these circumstances it would be an option. However I think I would need a separate home partition
[07:05] <ducasse> Nebi: i second the idea of a reinstall, since a live usb works
[07:06] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: its just that the system seems totally borked, no xorg, no greeter, no desktop etc
[07:06] <Two_Dogs> but got docker and forget what else i saw
[07:07] <Nebi> Two_Dogs,  is there a possibility of "repair" option through usb?
[07:07] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, or like backup to 24hours ago?
[07:08] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: was there some backup process running previously?
[07:08] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, I don't think so :/
[07:08] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: nothing to backup to then
[07:09] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, and not possible to find what I did wrong through going back the commands?
[07:09] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JQZMBcm7CC/
[07:09] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: maybe, via logs
[07:10] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: copy/paste & execute via terminal> cat /var/log/apt/term.log  | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[07:10] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: no need to share the dump if you dont feel the need
[07:11] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, I ahve here the last commands before the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JQZMBcm7CC/
[07:11] <Nebi> before the problematic reboot and the reboot before that were 200 commands but many cd .. etc
[07:13] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: too many variables for me to want to entertain :)
[07:13] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: i would call this a lesson in what not to do to the workstation, perhaps you need two installs, the workhorse and the testbed
[07:14] <devkort_> cd /home
[07:15] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, well this is also a bit what I fear: what did I learn? In the end, openpose wasn't working nor did caffe. So when I will have to do the entire thing again then I will not rm libprotobuf* but other than that?
[07:17] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, after installing previously CUDA and opencv it seemed so instable to get it runnign that I didnt want to touch it anymore
[07:17] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: you learned to play what if on a testbed install, and leave the workstation install alone till you tweak the issues out of the testbed
[07:17] <ducasse> Nebi: other than that come here and ask if you are unsure what to do
[07:18] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, yes thats true :)
[07:18] <Nebi> Could maybe this have caused a problem: sudo chown $USER /usr/local/bin/protoc
[07:18] <Nebi> sudo chown -R $USER /usr/local/include/google
[07:18] <Nebi> just asking because I saw it now
[07:19] <ducasse> you've done too much stuff to that system for anyone to support it
[07:19] <Two_Dogs> ^^ what ducasse said Nebi
[07:19] <Nebi> ok, I see :(
[07:20] <Nebi> So shall I stick to 16.04 or hope that it gets better with 18.04?
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> Nebi: things get better when you keep your system healthy, on any ubuntu version
[07:21] <Two_Dogs> i prefer current myself, but thats just my opinion
[07:21] <Nebi> Two_Dogs, by current you mean the 18.04?
[07:22] <Nebi> lotuspsychje, well I had previously issues to upgrade to a newer kernel. So I was having 16.04 with kernel 4.4.
[07:22] <Two_Dogs> i have a ubuntu server running now for about 8yrs, 24/7, and i think the trick was leaving it alone more than not
[07:22] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: ^^
[07:22] <Nebi> :)))))
[07:23] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: for your cuda experimenting i would be as current as possible
[07:23] <ducasse> Nebi: just try the 18.04 live usb, see if it behaves
[07:24] <Nebi> ok, en garde. Thanks for the help, people!
[07:25] <ducasse> remember, ask here if you are unsure what to do rather than fiddling and breaking something
[07:28] <bwoah_> exit
[07:28] <bwoah_> quit
[07:28] <bwoah_> Quit
[07:29] <Nebi> ducasse, Ok I will :) Sweating already when thinking about the partitioning now
[07:30] <Two_Dogs> Nebi: thats a thought, the process of turning home folder into partition is pretty much cli/terminal, do it now then reinstall ,ubuntu has an excellent wiki on how to turn home into partition
[07:37] <liveuser1> can this channel be commandered for a federal.log considering logbot on irc.mozilla.org suddenly doesn't join #federal.log?
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> liveuser1: what has this related to ubuntu?
[07:41] <liveuser1> it is a channel known to have an open to the public log
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> liveuser1: #ubuntu gets logged yes
[07:41] <liveuser1> is there any other channel which has such?
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !logs | liveuser1
[07:44] <Nebi> (hmm, it s weird that the live disks (16.04 and 18.04) only work with nomodeset
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> Nebi: some graphics cards requier nomodeset to enter system
[07:45] <JakeFrom98> Hello, I was wondering how to install zzuf fuzzer it appears you used to be able to install it from the repos but you cannot anymore. If anyone could help me out I'd apperciate it! My Ubuntu version is 16.04
[07:46] <Nebi> lotuspsychje, but I didn't need it before with my old 16.04 installation
[07:46] <alibaba22> haloo guys ~
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> JakeFrom98: seems like it has been removed
[07:48] <JakeFrom98> Ya I think it was I'm trying to figure out another way to install it.
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> JakeFrom98: but its back in 18.04 so it seems
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> JakeFrom98: so perhaps check !backports or install ubuntu 18.04?
[07:50] <JakeFrom98> Okay I'll look into that and get back to you
[07:59] <JakeFrom98> Thank you lotuspsychje for your help I think I'm just going to update it Ubuntu 18.04
[08:02] <rangemonger> why do i have to be connected to the internet for a 32bit efi install to take?
[08:03] <EriC^^> rangemonger: what iso are you using?
[08:03] <rangemonger> lubuntu 1804
[08:04] <rangemonger> if i install while offline, it fails, online, it works
[08:04] <EriC^^> rangemonger: what exactly is the iso?
[08:04] <rfouyer> Salut
[08:04] <rangemonger> lubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64
[08:05] <C0ckGobblr> Hi
[08:05] <C0ckGobblr> Helloo
[08:05] <C0ckGobblr> Can i ask a question
[08:05] <EriC^^> rangemonger: maybe it needs to update some packages to work, how does it fail?
[08:06] <C0ckGobblr> Id like to ask a question regarding firmware iwlwifi
[08:06] <C0ckGobblr> May i
[08:06] <rangemonger> EriC^^: the majority of the install goes fine, once it gets to installing grub, this: "The 'grub-efi-ia32' package failed to install into /target/"
[08:06] <C0ckGobblr> I want to ask a question
[08:07] <EriC^^> rangemonger: you could install without grub then manually install grub
[08:07] <C0ckGobblr> Is that alright, if i ask a question
[08:07] <EriC^^> rangemonger: 'ubiquity -b' launches the installer without installing grub in the end
[08:07] <C0ckGobblr> You seem to be busy and i have a question
[08:07] <EriC^^> C0ckGobblr: there's 1700people here, ask if someone knows they'll help
[08:07] <C0ckGobblr> Sure
[08:08] <rangemonger> and to then install grub?
[08:08] <EriC^^> rangemonger: chroot to the install and use 'grub-install'
[08:09] <C0ckGobblr> Ive upgraded from 17.04 to 18.04 and the iwlwifi drivers stopped working properly. Association witg AP times out in half a second after 3 fast tries...wtf
[08:09] <C0ckGobblr> No more internet
[08:10] <rangemonger> EriC^^: also, what package(s) are the wifi drivers? when i try to build a minimal iso with a few set things, i dont have wifi drivers
[08:10] <C0ckGobblr> I keep getting an ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE) link becomes rdy
[08:12] <EriC^^> rangemonger: sudo lshw -c network should show what drivers are being used
[08:12] <C0ckGobblr> If its iwl rangemonger you do sudo apt install iwlwifi-firmware
[08:13] <C0ckGobblr> Theres also openelec drivers on github if u want absolute latest shit google openelec/iwlwifi-firmware
[08:13] <rangemonger> iwl is fine, as long as it works
[08:13] <rangemonger> ill see if thats it
[08:14] <C0ckGobblr> Still no way to diagnose my wifi issues, this is a fresh install
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> !language | C0ckGobblr
[08:14] <C0ckGobblr> Ubuntu is so disappointing and everything is getting worse and worse every version
[08:15] <C0ckGobblr> Why would you break the wifi firmware its the most important thing
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> C0ckGobblr: you can generalize such statements, you can only speak of your system
[08:16] <Nebi> AHHH, it is running!!!!!! It is running! My old 16.04 is runnign again!!!!!
[08:16] <IcikIwir> hi
[08:16] <XB23> C0ckGobblr: Poor wifi in ubuntu is the reason i was forced to switch to mint
[08:17] <IcikIwir> nice to know you
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> XB23: please dont make such statements here in #ubuntu
[08:18] <XB23> Apologies
[08:18] <Nebi> SO funny, I realized that I had to redownload the 18.04 so I went back to trial a bit around with the briken system. while doing sudo apt-get update I saw that he was lacking libprotobuf-lite so i --reinstall installed it
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Nebi
[08:18] <Nebi> Arghhh, Wait Im having graphics now but it is not starting desktop
[08:19] <Nebi> I mean the background appears but nothing else from the system
[08:19] <ledeni> C0ckGobblr, start from beginning 'lspci | grep Wireless | nc termbin.com 9999'
[08:20] <Nebi> reinstall desktop? reinstallx.org?
[08:26] <Nebi> reinstalling ubuntu-desktop and unity didnt change the situation. Someonhas an idea? I see the background after login through the lgoin screen. I can even right click and open a terminal
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> Nebi: recoverymode/fix broken packages..or reinstall clean
[08:28] <Nebi> lotuspsychje, ah yes I will try broken packages immediately. Well reinstall clearn I think that after today adn yesterdays exepriences I will eventually do. But if I can back into my system I can at least currently work and schedule a two-system (prod and test) in the coming weeks
[08:31] <ledeni> Nebi, try make --> .config to .config-old and .cache to .cache-old , after that reboot
[08:33] <utiaka> Hi there
[08:34] <utiaka> I am trying to install VMware Horizon Client, but got a: python: command not found
[08:34] <utiaka> I think Ubuntu has Python3
[08:34] <utiaka> Does anyone know how to solve it?
[08:35] <utiaka> I read I should not installed Python or Python2 if I already have Python 3
[08:36] <utiaka> Anyone knows how to solve this "python: command not found"?
[08:36] <ikonia> utiaka: python is normally a symlink to python
[08:36] <ikonia> utiaka: as in the specific version
[08:36] <JimBuntu> utiaka, I'm not sure what issue you are having, but I can say that you can def have Python 2 and Python 3 installed at the same time without issue.
[08:36] <blackflow> utiaka: scripts requiring just "python", require python 2.x, by definition. if that's 18.04, you might need to install python 2 specifically.
[08:37] <utiaka> Thank you all
[08:37] <utiaka> Yes, I do have 18.04
[08:37] <blackflow> !info python
[08:37] <utiaka> Ok, so then I will install Python 2
[08:37] <blackflow> utiaka: the package is just "python"
[08:38] <blackflow> (as opposed to "python3")
[08:38] <utiaka> So, I should just do sudo apt install Python ?
[08:38] <kiokoman> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           9 apr 16 16:31  python -> python2.7
[08:38] <Nebi> (it is taking me some time because I dont have internet in recovery mode. Don't know why. Activating it seems not to work there. )
[08:39] <blackflow> utiaka: lowercase p
[08:39] <utiaka> Gooooood, than you! I'm gonna give it a try!
[08:41] <keanlee> hello everyone
[08:43] <utiaka> blackflow: Thank you! It worked!!
[08:43] <utiaka> Thank you all. Great support!
[09:13] <Nebi> ledeni, you mean mv or cp the config files that you mentionned?
[09:16] <Nebi> shall I maybe also try remove --purge xorg?
[09:19] <rofl783> unity is meh.
[09:26] <Nebi> repair broken packages and moving conflig and cache didnt affect the issue
[09:27] <Nebi> Imn going now to try to clearn xorg xserver and others and install according to this: https://www.computersnyou.com/4945/re-install-xorg-xserver-completely-ubuntu/
[09:29] <Nebi> ohoh maybe this was stupid. He is saying that many CUDA and nvidia drivers were deinstalled too
[09:29] <Sonderblade> is there a way to reset unity to default settings?
[09:29] <Sonderblade> i deleted the .local directory and now it wont start properly
[09:33] <jeffguorg> this bot(ubottu) is cool, how could i interact with it?
[09:34] <guest> you can send a private messages to it if you want to experiment instead of talking to it here
[09:34] <Two_Dogs> Sonderblade: deleted or sent to trash?
[09:35] <ducasse> !msgthebot | jeffguorg
[09:35] <Sonderblade> Two_Dogs: deleted
[09:35] <jeffguorg> cool!
[09:36] <Nebi> OK didnt help. Now after logging in he comes straight back to login screen
[09:39] <Two_Dogs> Sonderblade: you might try reinstalling unity, not sure that will be enough
[09:40] <SpaceManiac> Getting "libpython3.6 : Depends: libpython3.6-stdlib (= 3.6.5-3) but 3.6.5-5~16.04.york0 is to be installed", how does one go about fixing this kind of thing?
[09:40] <Two_Dogs> Sonderblade: i would not delete .local in the future
[09:40] <Sonderblade> Two_Dogs: i know but the directory was huge :)
[09:40] <Two_Dogs> ic
[09:41] <SpaceManiac> sorry, for context, that's drilling down through apt-get because 'vim' went missing after do-release-upgrade
[09:41] <jeffguorg> in china we have QQ(IM developed by Tencent), but it's proprietary software. so we merely have something like bot. even if someone developed one, it's just for fun, not something like this. it's my first time using IRC, surprised by it.
[09:42] <jeffguorg> i mean 'hardly' . sorry for my poor English. :p
[09:42] <Two_Dogs> Sonderblade: try 'aptitude' command if not used, instead of apt/apt-get, it does a better resolve job
[09:43] <Two_Dogs> Sonderblade: my bad
[09:43] <Two_Dogs> SpaceManiac: try 'aptitude' command if not used, instead of apt/apt-get, it does a better resolve job
[09:43] <SpaceManiac> hmm ok, I'll try that if it comes up again
[09:44] <SpaceManiac> I think I may have just got the right apt-get invocation to downgrade python3.6 without uninstalling 200 other packages
[09:48] <guiverc_d> SpaceManiac, what release are you running?
[09:48] <Exterminador> so, yesterday I've been helped by Bashing-om to try to sort out why using normal boot I got a black login screen and lots of errors related to nouveau driver in Xubuntu Bionic. we've tried lots of possibilities and none worked. I've installed Xubuntu Xenial in a different partition and the error was present there too. I must assume that something is borked with my graphics driver or even with my graphics card. I'm only able to use the laptop
[09:48] <Exterminador> via recovery mode without any issues except no video acceleration. using nomodeset fixes the problem in normal bot, but then I'm stuck with a 640*480 resolution when my laptop has a 1280*720.. I was wondering if with nomodeset enabled is possible to force the change of the screen resolution, or if it's possible to have video acceleration in recovery mode. one of them would please me.
[09:48] <SpaceManiac> guiverc: previously xenial, just do-release-upgraded into bionic, which caused the break
[09:48] <SpaceManiac> my suspicion is python3.6 I had installed from a PPA looked newer than the one in bionic
[09:50] <jk^> pls
[09:50] <guiverc> SpaceManiac, I'd suggest running "apt-cache policy libpython3.6-stdlib" & pasting the output into pastebin & providing us link...  (3.6.5-3 is bionic standard)
[09:50] <jk^> i have this problem with audacity
[09:50] <jk^> "FFmpeg cannot find audio codec 0x12000"
[09:51] <jk^> i can't export in 3gpp format an audio file
[09:51] <SpaceManiac> guiverc: I did "apt-get install -f libpython3.6-stdlib=3.6.5-3 libpython3.6-minimal=3.6.5-3 python3.6=3.6.5-3 python3.6-minimal=3.6.5-3" and that seems to have fixed it
[09:51] <jk^> i found this guide https://ttmanual.audacityteam.org/man/FAQ:Installation_and_Plug-Ins/pt_BR
[09:51] <guiverc> :) SpaceManiac
[09:51] <jk^> i went here https://ffmpeg.org/download.html
[09:52] <SpaceManiac> so often that asking on IRC brings the mental clarity needed to figure it out myself
[09:52] <jk^> but i don't know what download... the green button at the top or the other in the page...
[09:52] <bazhang> jk^, install from ubuntu software sources
[09:52] <jk^> which packages?
[09:53] <jk^> i'm on lubuntu
[09:53] <bazhang> jk^, sudo apt install ffmpeg
[09:53] <jk^> i'm opening synaptic
[09:53] <jk^> it's already installed
[09:53] <bazhang> jk^, lubuntu kubuntu ubuntu same source
[09:54] <bazhang> whats the end goal here jk^
[09:55] <jk^> i need to export an audio file in 3gpp format
[09:55] <jeffguorg> if i were you, i'd rather use conda so different versions of python won't mix together and won't be touched by package managers. and it's platform independent...not very constructive but i really suggest you to use conda(for python), n(for nodejs) or something like that if you need a version different with your system default
[09:55] <jk^> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t_Gs14uu6214R-UdIZgw4nbV2yktvQR0
[09:56] <jk^> bazhang do u see? it's already installed that package
[09:57] <bazhang> be patient jk^ , I'm searching for a solution
[09:57] <rpittau> jk^: ffmpeg doesn't come with that codec included, if you want it you will have to compile it yourself and enable it
[09:57] <jk^> how to compile it myself? :\
[09:57] <jk^> and enable it?
[09:57] <jk^> .\
[09:57] <jk^> i found this page: https://ttmanual.audacityteam.org/man/FAQ:Installation_and_Plug-Ins/pt_BR
[09:58] <jk^> after i went here: https://ffmpeg.org/download.html
[09:58] <jk^> but i don't know what download
[09:58] <rpittau> jk^: that's the correct page
[09:58] <jk^> the link at the top, or others links?
[09:58] <rpittau> jk^: the FAQ
[09:58] <jk^> the "green" link at the top or the link by Operating System
[09:58] <jk^> FAQ where?
[09:59] <rpittau> jk^: if you search for 0x12000 on that page you will see that ffmpeg requires amr libs
[09:59] <rpittau> jk^: the FAQ link you posted
[09:59] <rpittau> jk^: https://ttmanual.audacityteam.org/man/FAQ:Installation_and_Plug-Ins/pt_BR
[09:59] <jk^> i read this: Linux/Unix:
[09:59] <jk^> You may download (or build) a suitable FFmpeg library for your own purposes. To build, obtain the source code from the FFmpeg project. If you download a pre-built library, this might be either a "shared" or "static" build. A static build consists of a single libavformat library, whereas a shared build has at least three libraries (libavformat, libavcodec and libavutil). It is recommended to use a shared build, but Audacity will also work
[09:59] <jk^> with a static build.
[09:59] <jk^> If you compile Audacity from source code, it will link to the installed FFmpeg headers, which should always be compatible with an installed FFmpeg binary.
[09:59] <jk^> ok, i read that
[09:59] <jk^> but now, how to proceed?
[10:00] <jk^> i followed this link https://ffmpeg.org/download.html
[10:00] <jk^> i donwloaded this file: https://ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-4.0.tar.bz2
[10:00] <jk^> did i wrong?
[10:00] <jk^> :\
[10:00] <jk^> rpittau bazhang
[10:01] <_0kx__> hi
[10:01] <_0kx__> i'm using ubuntu 18.04. after the last upgrade there is a problem in the authentification in the login process.
[10:03] <guiverc> _0kx__, do you mean you enter password, its accepted, screen blanks and then you return to login screen (ie. loop?)
[10:03] <Nebi> Well so much to 18.04: trying it on the live disk doesnt react to neither mouse or keyboard.
[10:05] <_0kx__> guiverc: no, i've entered the password in the wrong way. it's ok. the login screen comes back. but, then i'm entering the password in the right way, the login starts and hung up in a blank (violette) screen. and the gnome don't starts.
[10:05] <jk^> how to update my lubuntu to 18.04 LTS?
[10:05] <_0kx__> guiverc: i've reinstalled gdm, gnome-session and so on, but same problem.:-)
[10:06] <bazhang> jk^, what version are you on now
[10:06] <jk^> 16.04.04
[10:06] <jk^> bazhang
[10:07] <bazhang> jk^, have you checked software sources for a new offering
[10:07] <jk^> yes
[10:07] <guiverc> _0kx__, I would suggest switching to terminal (ctrl+alt+f4 for example), then logging in, confirming you can login from there, then check disk space (df -h) as if no space on /home/ ($USER home directory) it can have issues... this is only possible cause only (and likely not your issue anyway)
[10:07] <bazhang> lts to lts, although you might have to wait for the point release for it to become available
[10:08] <_0kx__> guiverc: yeah, i've tried it, but there is 33g free space.
[10:09] <EriC^^> _0kx__: is ~/.Xauthority owned by your user?
[10:09] <_0kx__> guiverc: to enjoy the bug, first i've to enter the password in the wrong way, after this, the login comes back and the at the this time, there is no login possible.
[10:10] <guiverc> _0kx__, space available to home, then video is next likely issue, I'm no help there sorry, but `lshw -C video`...
[10:10] <jk^> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1T6o6THUyoDVKrpsG6yQ4SoVKkWtLggTY
[10:10] <_0kx__> guiverc, ok, thanks!
[10:10] <jk^> bazhang
[10:12] <Exterminador> so, any ideas about my problem? I'm open to all possible suggestions
[10:12] <_0kx__> [EriC^^]: hmm, where do i find the .xauthority? in i don't find it
[10:13] <Gargravarr> _0kx__: it should be in your home folder, ~. it's a hidden file. in a file manager, press Ctrl+H to show all files
[10:14] <guiverc> jk^, 18.04 upgrade from 16.04 will be offered when 18.04.1 is releasted (26-july expected date from memory) - you can force upgrade before then, but it's not recommended till that occurs (for stability reasons)
[10:14] <bazhang> Upgrading from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[10:14] <bazhang> Upgrades from 16.04 LTS will not be enabled until a few days after 18.04.1's release expected in late July. jk^
[10:15] <bazhang> as I just said prior jk^
[10:15] <bazhang> point release is the .1
[10:15] <_0kx__> Gargravarr: in the home folder isn't the .xauthority file. (ls -la)
[10:16] <jk^> ok thanks
[10:16] <bazhang> welcome
[10:17] <_0kx__> in the /var/auth/log aren't any hints to this problem.:-)
[10:18] <EriC^^> _0kx__: it is ~/.Xauthority with capital X
[10:18] <_0kx__> [EriC^^]: no.
[10:19] <_0kx__> maybe this: pam_systemd(su:session): Cannot create session: Already occupied by a session. ? i've found in the auth.log
[10:19] <Exterminador> if someone missed my issue: http://pastebin.com/GJ6bTAq1
[10:19] <Gargravarr> hi all, got a GPG problem that seems to have appeared all on its own. first Duplicity started throwing GPG errors, and now i can't sign Git commits. i haven't touched my GPG folder or run GPG from the command line in months, so i don't know what could have caused this, and the error messages are not very informative. does anyone know where i should start?
[10:21] <xmbq> can i install a pkg from later ubuntu (artsy) to older ubuntu (xenial) ?
[10:21] <bazhang> xmbq, not a good idea at all
[10:22] <xmbq> bazhang: why?
[10:22] <bazhang> xmbq, which package do you need, and why do you need the higher number
[10:22] <_0kx__> [EriC^^]: it seems, some sessions are overlapped?
[10:22] <xmbq> poppler-utils
[10:22] <bazhang> and why
[10:23] <EriC^^> _0kx__: yes seems some problem like that
[10:23] <xmbq> because there are some bugs in earlier version
[10:23] <EriC^^> try googling for the error _0kx__ might give some results
[10:23] <bazhang> there are bugs in every version
[10:23] <xmbq> bazhang: yeah but i tried with the new version and it fixes that problem
[10:23] <xmbq> that particular one
[10:23] <bazhang> mixing repos will do way more harm than any minimal good you imagine
[10:24] <xmbq> bazhang: so i should compile from source?
[10:24] <bazhang> xmbq, or find a PPa
[10:24] <guest> xmbq: whether it's a sensible idea depends on what the package is - if it's some small, self contained application it will likely be OK, but if it's a desktop environment you will have a bad time
[10:24] <_0kx__> [EriC^^]: i've googled a lot, but found nothing useful. it is hard to describe the problem. maybe that's the problem, to describe the problem.
[10:24] <xmbq> bazhang: but on the production server, i want to avoid compiling there, how can i distribute the binary? should i build as a static binary?
[10:25] <_0kx__> [EriC^^]: thanks!
[10:25] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: do you have inxi installed?
[10:28] <_0kx__> i'm really not a expert. is there maybe a step for step help to solve the problem.:-)
[10:29] <DK2>  my /bin was deleted completeley
[10:29] <DK2> can you recover from it?
[10:30] <guest> no
[10:30] <DK2> just replace it from some other os?
[10:30] <Nebi> OK I am at the point where I am absolutely frustrated and do not know any further. While now almost 24 hours with several problems in a row and slee-deprived, on the one hand the old installation loops in the login-screen, and the disk image of 18.04 doesnt react to either keyboard-inpu or mouse-clicks but mouse-movement. Everything is so crazy. Im going for a run now.
[10:30] <Gargravarr> DK2: you'll need an Ubuntu ISO, but it won't be pretty
[10:30] <guest> you could try to install on another machine and copy it across
[10:30] <_0kx__> it's after the upgrade process from 17.10 to 18.04. i'm running only the standard configuration, no fancy special modifications.:-)
[10:30] <DK2> im gonna try
[10:31] <xmbq> how can i distribute the binary?
[10:32] <xmbq> docker or statically linked binary?
[10:32] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: not sure, but I can check it in a bit, as soon as I get homw
[10:32] <Exterminador> home*
[10:33] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: did the upgrade complete error free?
[10:33] <_0kx__> two_dogs: yes!
[10:34] <_0kx__> two_dogs: yeah, it was like magic. all seems to run smooth and nice. it appears after i've entered the password in the wrong way. and in the secound approch to enter the password the login hungs up.
[10:35] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude safe-upgrade -sy ##  any complaints?
[10:36] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: is that password issue a known bug?
[10:36] <_0kx__> two_dogs: no complaints. no, not a known bug.
[10:39] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl -b --pri=3 ## any complaints related to issue?
[10:41] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: yes, inxi is installed.
[10:41] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: ok
[10:42] <_0kx__> two_dogs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DXxhwMJz96/. there are something with user session keyring. but i don't know, maybe its related to the password bug.
[10:43] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Gxc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[10:43] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/t9mr (worth to mention that im in recovery mode)
[10:46] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: is gnomescreensaver default install for your desktop? is it missing?
[10:48] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: when you boot into normal session do you get to login?
[10:49] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: i got a black screen
[10:49] <_0kx__> two_dogs: is installed: gnome-screensaver is already the newest version (3.6.1-8ubuntu3).
[10:50] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: was nvidia installed? ever?
[10:51] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: is the process gnomescreensaver running now?
[10:51] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: i use plasma so excuse me for gnomeshell ignorance
[10:51] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: it wasn't installed, but yesterday me and Bashing-om did installed it, purged it and so on. nothing worked
[10:51] <_0kx__> two_dogs: :-)
[10:53] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: copy/paste & execute via terminal> dpkg -l nvidia* | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[10:54] <_0kx__> two_dogs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/88wSp6bpBZ/   .
[10:54] <jk^> isn't there a way to solve my problem? :\
[10:54] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/bxoq
[10:56] <guiverc> jk^, which/what problem? forcing release-upgrade??
[10:56] <jk^> no guiverc with an installation
[10:57] <jk^> Audacity gives me "FFmpeg cannot find audio codec 0x12000" when i try to export an audio file in 3gpp format...
[10:57] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: is the screensaver process ran as user or system normally? both?
[10:57] <jk^> i found this page https://ttmanual.audacityteam.org/man/FAQ:Installation_and_Plug-Ins/pt_BR
[10:57] <jk^> but i don't know how to proceed
[10:57] <jk^> :\
[10:58] <jk^> guiverc
[10:58] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: you have the live session? did live work well?
[10:58] <guiverc> sorry jk^ i can't help with ffmpeg issue
[10:58] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: not even live w/o nomodeset
[10:59] <_0kx__> two_dogs: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q9BS62H2jC/ . hmm, there are two gsd-screensaver processes. one of them runs with root, and the other as a user process.
[10:59] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: yes, i saw that, is that normal for gnome-shell?
[10:59] <_0kx__> two_dogs: both!
[11:00] <_0kx__> two_dogs: hmm, i don't know.
[11:00] <Two_Dogs> who is the gnome-shell guru here?
[11:01] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Fxxrzc0 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[11:01] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: copy/paste & execute via terminal> pstree -nsupa | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[11:01] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/mk1v
[11:02] <jk^> guiverc just a question
[11:02] <_0kx__> two_dogs: yes. and this is obscure: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mxp4b7NGMV/.
[11:03] <jk^> if i try to use another softwater different from audacity, will i have the same problems?
[11:03] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude search ~n4.15.0-20 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[11:04] <_0kx__> two_dogs: http://termbin.com/wicw.
[11:04] <guiverc> jk^, i don't know ... my guess would be audacity I think is Qt based; so if you used a gtk+ one you may have more chance of difference - but I could be 100% wrong!
[11:04] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/8mnl
[11:05] <jk^> which are the most popular audio editor for ubuntu?
[11:05] <jk^> i don't know them apart audacity
[11:05] <Two_Dogs> _0kx__: using crypto partitions? which?
[11:05] <jk^> guiverc
[11:06] <guiverc> jk^, i know nothing about video/audio sorry.
[11:07] <_0kx__> two_dogs: yes. the standard ubuntu encryption. it's /home/.ecryptfs  .
[11:08] <_0kx__> two_dogs: standard in the sense of the installation dialogs.
[11:10] <_0kx__> two_dogs: i've apt-install gnome-screensaver --reinstall. i try to reboot it, maybe the problem is solved.
[11:11] <mgedmin> fwiw there's no ~/.Xauthority for me either on 18.04, and yet X11 apps work fine
[11:12] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: did you disable onboard intel graphics?
[11:12] <Two_Dogs> ?
[11:12] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: i dont think so
[11:13] <Exterminador> if i did it, i didnt noticed it
[11:13] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: look at bios, can you do anything to graphics options
[11:13] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: i can restart and see. 2 minutes
[11:14] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: ok
[11:15] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: I don't see anything in the BIOS related to graphics
[11:15] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: ok
[11:17] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: I have this laptop with dual boot. I have exactly the same problem trying to boot Windows
[11:18] <jk^> !yasm
[11:18] <jk^> !nasm
[11:18] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: you think maybe you got graphic card issues?
[11:18] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: yep, I do think that's probably that. perhaps the Nvidia card is dying or something like that
[11:19] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: yeah, something like that
[11:19] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: use the thing as a server
[11:19] <Exterminador> but I still don't understand how with nomodeset or in recovery it works great
[11:20] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: it's my main laptop and I can't buy another one at this time xD
[11:20] <Exterminador> as long as it keeps working via recovery, I'll use it as is
[11:21] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: cool
[11:22] <Exterminador> it's 9y old laptop already. I think I can't use any external graphics card (there's no place for it tho)
[11:22] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: you added 'nomodeset' to grub?
[11:23] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: when I use nomodeset, I'm stuck with a 640*480 screen resolution. it's super duper ugly
[11:23] <Exterminador> currently I'm booting via Advanced options, then I choose resume boot
[11:23] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: you might be able to use 'xrandr' to tweak resolution
[11:24] <Exterminador> hum.. I've never used xrandr tho
[11:24] <Two_Dogs> time to learn something new Exterminador
[11:25] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador https://git.io/vpNYr
[11:25] <PhoenyxCullen> Has the new LTS been released?
[11:25] <PhoenyxCullen> Sorry, been out of contact.
[11:25] <mgedmin> Exterminador: PhoenyxCullen 18.04 LTS is out, yes
[11:26] <PhoenyxCullen> Ok. Thanks.
[11:26] <mgedmin> oops sorry Exterminador didn't mean to tag you
[11:26] <mgedmin> PhoenyxCullen: note that users of 16.04 LTS will not be offered to upgrade until 18.04.1 is out in June
[11:27] <Two_Dogs> --fb widthxheight <-- my suggestion Exterminador
[11:27] <Exterminador>  mgedmin: no worries. Two_Dogs I'll try later on perhaps..
[11:34] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: tks for the help and patience :)
[11:35] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: good luck :)
[11:36] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: just one last question: with nomodeset I'll have video acceleration?
[11:38] <_0kx__> two_dogs: no, same problem.:-)
[11:38] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: i dont think you will see hardware acceleration,
[11:39] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: nvidia driver install borked how?
[11:40] <_0kx__> two_dogs: i've reinstalled pam, gnome-screensaver, gdm3.
[11:42] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: when I install nvidia drivers and all that stuff, I this in the screen: https://imgur.com/YI9QkJF
[11:43] <Exterminador> I can't use it (I can't see what I'm typing, etc)
[11:43] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: what is missing? panel?
[11:44] <Exterminador> no, the screen is full of stripes. like a curtain. makes it unusable
[11:45] <Exterminador> even with nomodeset enabled when using Nvidia drivers
[11:51] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: tried some other distro's live?
[11:53] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: tried Manjaro Deepin live and Xubuntu Xenial (laptop is with Xubuntu Bionic). all had the same problem
[11:54] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: ok
[11:57] <Exterminador> Two_Dogs: that's the reason that lead me to think that the problem is related to my Nvidia card. it's starting to enter in RIP mode
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:59] <Two_Dogs> Exterminador: i would think so, windows is as broke as linux
[12:02] <Exterminador>  Two_Dogs: exactly! not even Windows boots properly. but instead a black screen I have some sort of BSOD. lol
[12:06] <_0kx__> two_dogs: it is an authentication error, says gdm.:-)
[12:06] <Nebi> Hello again
[12:08] <_0kx__> two_dogs: thats the error message: pam_unix(gdm-password:auth): authentication failure
[12:13] <superuser> halla
[12:19] <AndroUser> Hello?
[12:19] <EriC^^> !ask | Jbread
[12:20] <Jbread> I can not get my wired connection to work on the latest version of ubuntu
[12:24] <ledeni> Jbread, you wifi work?
[12:25] <guiverc> Jbread, if you enter `ip addr` do you recognize the device (ie. it looks like its there, enp0s25 is the name of my nic on 18.04)
[12:25] <Jbread> I don't have wifi
[12:26] <ledeni> Jbread, 'lspci | grep Network'
[12:26] <superuser> jbread, then through which network adapter are you connected to the internet ?
[12:27] <Jbread> Linksys re3600
[12:28] <Jbread> linksys  re6300
[12:28] <Jbread> My bad
[12:30] <aphotica> Anyone else getting a weird bug on Xubuntu where if the monitor shuts off, and it turns back on, the refresh rate is stuck at 59.0hz and 1376x768? Such a weird bug. Using an RX 580 with Xubuntu 18.04 LTS and display port with an ASUS monitor, 144hz TN 1080p.
[12:35] <Nebi> OK, now I can safely say that the desktop is also back and I can work. CUDA is surprisingly working; python/conda too. THis is already a good start for working. THank you again guys for all the help.
[12:36] <ledeni> Nebi, great what you do?
[12:36] <nots> i don't have wifi too. but i did last time i installed ubuntu 18.04
[12:36] <nots> i'm still strugulling with it
[12:37] <nots> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2392154&p=13767712#post13767712
[12:38] <Nebi> ledeni, thats difficult to say as in the last 6 hours or so I threw a lot of nukes. Completely purging xorg and nvidia. Reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, xorg, unity, nvidia. Lately also removing many .config and .chache files.
[12:38] <Nebi> ledeni, in the end I am not sure what helped. But I am conscient that I must be riding a volcano right now
[12:39] <ledeni> Nebi, it is ok
[12:40] <_0kx__> two_dogs: yeah, the #ubuntu-dev and #gnome channel know the bug: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/370642960/gdm3_3.28.0-0ubuntu1.1_source.changes
[12:41] <_0kx__> two_dogs: thanks a lot!
[12:41] <ledeni> nots, 'lspci | grep Wireless | nc termbin.com 9999'
[12:53] <jurgentje> Hi, I'm looking for a way to magnify the screen dynamically like was possible with Compiz in the past (scroll wheel + modifier). Anyone know if there are tools for this?
[12:55] <mgedmin> there's a screen magnifier in Universal access in System Settings
[12:56] <newbuntu> complete linux newb here
[12:56] <newbuntu> having trouble installing linux on my new Lenovo
[12:56] <newbuntu> currently "trying" on a USB
[12:57] <jurgentje> Hi newbuntu, I have some older Thinkpads here too, and on some of them, the SD card slot isn't bootable.
[12:57] <newbuntu> I was able to successfully install, but after login, either the mouse would not move, or, if it did, everything would seem to freeze whenever i tried to open or use anything
[12:58] <jurgentje> did you do a checksum on your download? maybe something went wrong with the download
[12:58] <newbuntu> no. I honestly dont even know what that is. And I'm afraid im in over my head. But I think I can learn...
[13:00] <newbuntu> I checked around online, and found that with older versions, some had a similar problem that was related to the NVIDIA graphics card
[13:02] <newbuntu> the answer there suggested press "e" at the install screen, then "replace 'splash quiet' with 'nomodeset'" and i tried that. but since I'm not sure what it means, I dont know for sure if I did it right.
[13:05] <yokowka> hello to all! in terminal: bash: /etc/profile.d/vte.sh: no such file or catalog    ,   how to make it clear?
[13:06] <kj4> hello, how to I get a version of VirtualBox installed that supports USB passthrough?
[13:06] <guiverc> newbuntu, I agree with jurgentje in that I think md5sum/checksum checks (to confirm download was perfect) are worth it .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM  may help.  the 1-2 mins to check can save hours of debugging issues (that occur if even a single bit of download is wrong)
[13:07] <arunkumar413> connecting external display is making my laptop monitor blank
[13:08] <guiverc> (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto i actually prefer; but it assumes a *nix host is used to verify, and I didn't know if this applies)
[13:08] <lapaga> yokowka, is there a number after vte like 2.91?
[13:09] <yokowka> lapaga - no number, only ....vte.sh
[13:10] <ledeni> arunkumar413, check Setting --- Devices ---- Screen display --- should be option for both display to show up
[13:10] <_0kx__> bye
[13:12] <arunkumar413> there is no devices
[13:12] <arunkumar413> option
[13:13] <ledeni> arunkumar413, sorry what DE you using?
[13:13] <leftyfb> kj4: all versions of Virtualbox released in the last 10 years supports USB passthrough
[13:14] <arunkumar413> DE?
[13:14] <jurgentje> you'll need the virtualbox extensions installed on your gues system though
[13:14] <jurgentje> DE = desktop environment (gnome, kde, ...)
[13:15] <leftyfb> yokowka: undo whatever you did you install /etc/profile.d/vte.sh
[13:16] <ledeni> arunkumar413,better say ubuntu version
[13:16] <arunkumar413> It's linux mint
[13:16] <leftyfb> !mint | arunkumar413
[13:16] <kj4> leftyfb: I thot OSE versions did not?
[13:17] <yokowka> leftyfb how to undo?
[13:18] <leftyfb> yokowka: how did you put it there in the first place?
[13:18] <leftyfb> kj4: where does it say that?
[13:21] <yokowka> leftyfb i'd installed playonlinux , it not opens wide, then in synaptic i'd delete it, and also clean the system with bleach beat as root....
[13:21] <guest> Is there a nice way to automate modifying the $PATH variable in /etc/environment? I need to append to the path as part of a script, but I can't replace the whole line, because it may have changed upstream and I want to keep the changes
[13:21] <leftyfb> yokowka: I don't think playonlinux would install vte
[13:22] <leftyfb> guest: use sed and regex
[13:23] <newbuntu> guiverc thank you
[13:25] <engineerJamesJ> Can someone point me to a tutorial regarding "how to unlook a Ubuntu computer when password lost" ?
[13:25] <s10gopal> bug 1745646 is fixed in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[13:25] <leftyfb> engineerJamesJ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Lost_Password
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> guest: that's more of a programming question than a support question. You might want to try one of the #bash channels. Also, I would recommend inside your script to capture the current path to a variable. Then update the existing path, appending what you need to the end. When your script finishes, assign the saved path from the variable at beginning back to the original path variable.
[13:25] <leftyfb> engineerJamesJ: found on google by searching for "ubuntu reset password live cd"
[13:26] <brainwash> s10gopal: it does not say "fix released"
[13:26] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: $PATH is already a variable
[13:26] <leftyfb> engineerJamesJ: please do not PM
[13:26] <engineerJamesJ> THANKS !
[13:27] <s10gopal> brainwash, status: 	In Progress → Fix Committed , and it is fixed in upstream
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: I know, I don't see why sed would be required. A script can just as easily update $PATH during execution. What I'm trying to say is capture the current $PATH value to be able to restore it back the way it was when the script finishes
[13:27] <brainwash> s10gopal: that should answer your question then
[13:28] <yokowka> leftyfb i do not remember when vte was installed!
[13:28] <s10gopal> brainwash, The patch has landed upstream as cfcadfaad7251d8b640713724b388164d75465b2 , it means it is also fixed in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[13:28] <brainwash> s10gopal: does it say "fix released" for 18.04?
[13:28] <leftyfb> yokowka: please contact support from vte on how to remove it. vte is not an official Ubuntu package
[13:28] <s10gopal> brainwash, no
[13:29] <brainwash> s10gopal: so, it's not yet fixed
[13:29] <guest> pragmaticenigma: yeah I can do it myself if I needed to, my question was, do I need to, is there some nice built in way to do it instead?
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> guest: You're best bet is to ask that question in #bash
[13:29] <leftyfb> guest: no, use a script that appends to $PATH
[13:30] <leftyfb> s10gopal: ask in the bug report if you can test the fix
[13:30] <guest> thanks
[13:30] <s10gopal> thx
[13:30] <yokowka> leftyfb - i'll think to do it)
[14:01] <s10gopal> iso on ubuntu download page is also updated ?
[14:02] <Spookan> s10gopal: What do you mean?
[14:03] <s10gopal> Spookan, if i download ubuntu 18.04 iso today and download another iso after several month both will be same ?
[14:03] <eraserpencil> hey guys, I was testing out enhancd, but i seem to have messed up my cd setting after deleting the cloned folders
[14:04] <phillly> hi. my question about manually installing .deb packages.
[14:04] <eraserpencil> "whereis cd" returned nothing
[14:04] <phillly> some instructions involve getting a key from a key server and checking a ".asc" file. what is the reason for this?
[14:05] <leftyfb> s10gopal: only if you download the daily. Otherwise, they only change when a point release is made available (18.04.1, 18.04.2)
[14:05] <juslintek> Hi anyone having freezing Web Developer panel on Ubuntu 18.04?
[14:06] <leftyfb> phillly: sudo dpkg -i <name of package.deb>
[14:06] <guest> phillly: if you download the .asc file once from a trusted source, you can verify in future that the .deb file you downloaded is from the same source
[14:06] <s10gopal> thx
[14:06] <juslintek> Sorry, i meant anyone having firefox 60, freezing Web Developer panel on Ubuntu 18.04?
[14:07] <phillly> guest: so .asc file is not associated with each release? is it just the public key then?
[14:08] <leftyfb> phillly: sudo dpkg -i <name of package.deb>
[14:08] <guest> phillly: yes
[14:08] <eraserpencil> any aid
[14:08] <phillly> leftyfb: I understand the depackaging process. I am just confused about keys
[14:08] <ioria> eraserpencil,  It is a builtin command, which means that it is executed directly by your shell
[14:08] <leftyfb> phillly: if you've got the .deb file downloaded, you don't use keys to install it
[14:09] <ioria> eraserpencil,  it's not a program
[14:09] <phillly> I have seen "gpg --verify" against ".asc" files though
[14:09] <leftyfb> phillly: it's not needed. Just install the .deb
[14:09] <guest> leftyfb: I think you missed the actual question - "some instructions involve getting a key from a key server and checking a ".asc" file. what is the reason for this? "
[14:09] <leftyfb> guest: "<phillly> hi. my question about manually installing .deb packages."
[14:10] <leftyfb> guest: the 2nd part is being asked with the assumption that .asc file matter when installing a local .deb file
[14:10] <guest> First remark was setting the context for the actual question to follow.
[14:10] <phillly> so when I do a "gpg --recv-key", I get the public key from a server, right? then I do "gpg --verify *.asc" to check the "signature" to verify that the package is signed correctly to verify authenticity then?
[14:10] <leftyfb> phillly: Have you tried to just install the .deb package?
[14:11] <eraserpencil> loria: I got that part. The reason i'm looking for the location of cd is because when I cd, it shows an error somewhere along the lines of enhanc no longer found.
[14:11] <phillly> leftyfb: I do not have a problem with installing a .deb package. I want to understand the key business. I want to know about it
[14:11] <guest> anyway if you are downloading an .asc file from a server, and you are also downloading the .deb file at the same time from the same server, the fact they match doesn't really tell you anything. If someone was trying to host a malicious deb they could also host a malicious asc
[14:11] <leftyfb> phillly: there is no key business when installing a .deb package
[14:11] <phillly> I am not a crypto export. just saw today reading articles that packages are signed. it used to be just md5 hash for me
[14:11] <guest> the idea is to download the asc once from a trusted connection, then you can use it in future to verify deb packages downloaded from untrusted sources
[14:12] <phillly> ok it makes bit more sense to me now, thank you guest
[14:12] <phillly> leftyfb: can you tell me why .deb package does not require gpg verification?
[14:13] <leftyfb> phillly: because you already have it. Now, pulling packages using apt from a repository, that's what requires keys.
[14:13] <eraserpencil> ioria ^
[14:13] <ioria> eraserpencil,  there is no location of 'cd'   : type cd
[14:13] <leftyfb> eraserpencil: you'll need to contact enhanc support to properly remove enhanc to get rid of the error
[14:15] <guest> eraserpencil: "cd" is built into the Bash shell - can you run "which cd" maybe someone has changed that
[14:16] <eraserpencil> i got "cd  is aliased to '__enchancd::cd' "
[14:17] <eraserpencil> and which cd returned ntg
[14:17] <leftyfb> eraserpencil: ok, remove the alias
[14:17] <guest> eraserpencil: check in your ~/.bashrc file to see if there's a line like: alias cd="...
[14:17] <guest> eraserpencil: and remove that line, then open a new terminal window
[14:17] <eraserpencil> i checked that and not there
[14:18] <eraserpencil> i did a grep -rni for enchancd in ~ and but got nothing back
[14:18] <ioria> eraserpencil,  do you have a .bash_alias fiel ?
[14:18] <ioria> *file
[14:18] <guest> eraserpencil: do you have any clue what __enchancd::cd is and where it came from?
[14:19] <guest> eraserpencil: btw you can use \cd to override the alias in the immediate term
[14:19] <guest> eraserpencil: is it affecting all users or just yours? if you do "sudo su" and get a root shell, does "cd" work as expected?
[14:20] <s10gopal> ubuntu budgie is just ubuntu + budgie desktop manager ?
[14:20] <phillly> guest: by the way, I just looked inside one of the ".asc" files. it says "PGP signature". the tool is called "gpg" however. Google says PGP is proprietary and OpenPGP is an open alternative. do you know by any chance why is it not called like "OpenPGP Signature" then?
[14:20] <guest> maybe a trademark thing?
[14:20] <eraserpencil> guest: it's affecting just me, root is fine
[14:20] <guest> It's a "PGP Signature" - OpenPGP is an implementation
[14:21] <guest> GPG is another implementation but they both work on "PGP Signatures" - that's the answer
[14:21] <confluency> PGP is the actual name of the algorithm.
[14:21] <eraserpencil> enhancd uses awk for the functionality... if it helps you help me troubleshoot
[14:21] <guest> eraserpencil: try "grep cd ~/.*"
[14:22] <Nebi> Hi, after resolving the issue with the computer Im back to the moment before I started the catastrophe. So this time I'm more careful and ask here first. So it is about libprotobuf. Protocol Buffer runtime library. My protoc --version says libprotoc 3.5.1. And also python has 3.5 installed. But while executinv a program it says: This program requires version 3.5.0 of the Protocol Buffer runtime library, but the installed version is 3.1.0. I googled around and
[14:22] <Nebi> there are also other people having the same issue but I will not again go and rm libs in the /usr/lib folder. Rather I want to understand what is going on.
[14:24] <ioria> eraserpencil,  we're talking about this :  https://github.com/b4b4r07/enhancd ?
[14:24] <phillly> thank you guest and coffeeguy
[14:24] <eraserpencil> guest: it gave too much results so i piped it to another grep looking for enhancd and only the chat logs came up
[14:24] <phillly> I mean confluency :)
[14:24] <eraserpencil> yes thats the one
[14:24] <eraserpencil> i ran init.sh
[14:26] <ioria> eraserpencil,  i think you need to unset those ENHANCD_FILTER environment variables
[14:27] <zetheroo> in 16.04 how do you correctly rename a network device?
[14:27] <zetheroo> I am seeing info like this https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/328485/ubuntu-16-04-change-interface-name
[14:27] <zetheroo> but it seems rather messy
[14:28] <leftyfb> zetheroo: that's how you do it
[14:28] <leftyfb> eraserpencil: if all you did was run the init.sh, then all you need to do is reboot and the problem will be gone
[14:32] <eraserpencil> haha...right, it's been a while since i reboot
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil: or open a new terminal session
[14:33] <eraserpencil> pragmaticenigma: yea, that dosent work
[14:33] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: it was an export
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> ah, that would make sense
[14:34] <zetheroo>  leftyfb: seems like it can be done with the ip command
[14:35] <leftyfb> zetheroo: you asked how to do it correctly
[14:35] <leftyfb> zetheroo: udev does the naming/renaming. Setting it as a udev rule is the correct way
[14:35] <solsTiCe> zetheroo: what's tour version of ubuntu ?
[14:35] <solsTiCe> oops
[14:35] <zetheroo> leftyfb: how is it not correct to use the ip command?
[14:36] <zetheroo> leftyfb: where are the names of network interfaces defined in 16.04?
[14:36] <zetheroo> because there is no /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file
[14:36] <leftyfb> zetheroo: it's part of udev/kernel. If you want to hardcode your own name, you set a udev rule
[14:36] <ioria> eraserpencil,  run 'reset' in terminal
[14:36] <leftyfb> zetheroo: create it
[14:37] <leftyfb> ioria: reset won't purge exports I don't think
[14:37] <ioria> ok
[14:37] <bodie_> Hi, anyone know how to get emacs magit working to sign commits?  I'm on Ubuntu.  This is the behavior: https://github.com/magit/magit/issues/2859
[14:38] <zetheroo> leftyfb: The problem is that when adding a new network interface (hardware) to the system it's not automatically added to the /etc/network/interfaces file, and ifocnfig doesn't show any new device either. But I was able to see it with ipmaddr so that's fine.
[14:39] <leftyfb> zetheroo: ifconfig -a
[14:39] <leftyfb> zetheroo: also, ls /sys/class/net/
[14:39] <zetheroo> leftyfb: Ok 👍
[14:40] <transhuman> so, I have taken the hard drive out of one ubuntu desktop, and put it in another system. first had an AMD processor, new one has duel Xeon 5405, and a crappy video card. Typing is slow and double types, desktop refresh is   slightly faster (both internal video cards suck! Anything I should do for proper hardware redetection?
[14:40] <Monkey_b> hey guys, struggling to get a dual boot installation with windows10... it seems gparted and fdisk won't see my actual HD/partitions (it only sees the live usb)... i've disabled secure boot in BIOS as well as fast startup in the windows10 power options... but no luck, any ideas what else may be interfering?
[14:41] <leftyfb> transhuman: use a different DE or put a better video card in it
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> Monkey_b: Is the drive protected by BitLocker?
[14:42] <transhuman> DE?
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> transhuman: Desktop Environment
[14:42] <Monkey_b> pragmaticenigma, never heard of bitlocker, let me google
[14:43] <transhuman> funny thing is this machine used to run like 10 VM's no problem!
[14:43] <transhuman> brb
[14:45] <leftyfb> transhuman: Is this a server or desktop? If all you're doing is running headless VM's, you don't need the GUI to be fast
[14:45] <leftyfb> transhuman: in fact, I wouldn't even run a GUI
[14:45] <Monkey_b> pragmaticenigma, it seems i dont have bitlocker on this laptop, searched for it up and down no sight of it
[14:46] <Monkey_b> wait a minute i take that back
[14:46] <Monkey_b> i see a bitlocker service running
[14:46] <transhuman> unfortunately I have no choice my desktop died
[14:48] <pragmaticenigma> Monkey_b: Bitlocker service doesn't mean the drive is encrypted. BitLocker service is also used for reading external drives that may have been encrypted
[14:48] <Monkey_b> ok, yea i dont see any signs of it being encrypted
[14:49] <leftyfb> Monkey_b: https://uit.stanford.edu/service/encryption/wholedisk/bitlocker
[14:49] <leftyfb> look for "Turning off BitLocker"
[14:49] <leftyfb> just to be sure
[14:49] <pragmaticenigma> Monkey_b: Looking through a couple articles... The short answer is, if the live cd isn't detecting the drive, it's best not to continue forward. You risk losing your entire Windows drive.
[14:49] <Monkey_b> win10 home, so not available
[14:50] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: The problem is, LiveCD isn't even seeing a hint of a drive.
[14:50] <leftyfb> that's a driver issue then
[14:50] <Monkey_b> pragmaticenigma, it's a new laptop, not worried about data loss
[14:50] <Monkey_b> that said dual boot would be nice for gaming purposes
[14:50] <AbbyH> Hi All, wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. I've been lumped with maintaining a isolated 16.04 virtual machine, my only access is via ssh from a machine with extremly restricted internet access. The party who maintain the infrastructure have given me a 45GB iso file which appears to mirror the structure of apt repository. Could anyone give me some guidance on how to go about using
[14:50] <AbbyH> this iso to update the installed packages.
[14:51] <pragmaticenigma> Monkey_b: I'm not talking about data loss... I'm stating that the drive isn't going to work, and forcing it to work isn't a good idea
[14:51] <Monkey_b> so i bought a brand new brick
[14:51] <pragmaticenigma> Monkey_b: we may get it up and running today, but a kernel update, grub update, or some other low level update could make the system unbootable again in the future
[14:51] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: it could probably work with the right drivers for the storage device/controller
[14:52] <pragmaticenigma> That's above my expertise to try and fix
[14:52] <leftyfb> AbbyH: https://www.linux.com/learn/create-your-own-local-apt-repository-avoid-dependency-hell
[14:52] <eraserpencil> ioria: i just reboot. im good now thanks alot!
[14:52] <leftyfb> Monkey_b: what is the make/model?
[14:53] <Monkey_b> https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GS65-Stealth-Thin-8RF
[14:53] <leftyfb> AbbyH: or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[14:53] <AbbyH> leftyfb: I came accross that article, however I dont have dpkg-dev installed
[14:53] <Monkey_b> perhaps relevant: 1x M.2 SSD slot (NVMe PCIe Gen3), 1x M.2 SSD Combo (NVMe PCIe Gen3 / SATA )
[14:53] <AbbyH> and as this .iso is my only source of packages, no way to install it
[14:54] <leftyfb> AbbyH: I would not recommend doing it then
[14:54] <AbbyH> leftyfb: I dont really have a choice
[14:56] <leftyfb> AbbyH: You cannot do the job if you do not have the right tools
[14:56] <pragmaticenigma> AbbyH: I would think the people responsible for giving you the ISO should also be responsible for teaching you how to use it.
[14:57] <AbbyH> They don't know themselves :D
[14:57] <leftyfb> then why did they assume what they did would work and give you no other options?
[14:57] <pragmaticenigma> AbbyH: Then I would be contacting my manager, you've been given a task and no resources or materials on how to perform said task.
[14:58] <leftyfb> AbbyH: a recursive dpkg -i on all packages on the cd could work, but more than likely it would cause all sorts of problems and would not be recommended. That is the only option to you with the current environment and toolset
[14:58] <AbbyH> the joys of clasified projects :D
[14:58] <leftyfb> Sounds like whoever gave it to you assumed that would be sufficient
[14:58] <AbbyH> im the only one with a brain cell that has the required security clearance
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> Monkey_b: The only fixes I've seen involve a high potential of full data loss and potentially bricking the drives in the process. I'd use the laptop as is, or start researching it's configuration to understand how the drives are configured for that unit
[15:01] <tgm4883> AbbyH: have you tried the sources.list portion of that link?
[15:02] <leftyfb> tgm4883: I'm pretty sure there's more to it than that. package lists, keys, etc
[15:02] <tgm4883> leftyfb I skimmed it, but one could assume that whoever gave AbbyH the ISO already did that part
[15:02] <AbbyH> tgm4883: I did. during apt update it tried to chmod some of the files. which being a .iso mounted via a loopdevice and thus readonly, it failed
[15:03] <leftyfb> AbbyH: copy it's contents locally
[15:03] <tgm4883> AbbyH: I don't suppose you have 45GB free space to move that to
[15:03] <Monkey_b> pragmaticenigma, i see, appreciate the help, could you share some info on that so i can dig further?
[15:03] <AbbyH> tgm4883: nope
[15:04] <AbbyH> although
[15:04] <AbbyH> I have 2 servers with this issue that can talk to each other. I might be able to delete the iso from one and scp the files out of the other iso
[15:05] <leftyfb> AbbyH: you sure dpkg-dev isn't available on this iso?
[15:05] <tgm4883> AbbyH: When you say it tried to chmod the files, what command did you run?
[15:05] <AbbyH> leftyfb: its on the iso, but fails dependencies. And I can't find all of them here
[15:06] <AbbyH> tgm4883: apt update
[15:06] <leftyfb> AbbyH: then the iso is not complete and you will not be able to update all your packages from it
[15:06] <tgm4883> The more I look at this page, the more I think dpkg-dev and update-mydebs aren't necessary
[15:08] <tgm4883> AbbyH: just to confirm, you've mounted the ISO on your system and added a deb line pointed to that location?
[15:08] <AbbyH> yup
[15:09] <tgm4883> AbbyH: and the contents of that directory look similiar to this http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/
[15:09] <juslintek> Hi, having this problem: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K67ZdkdwPb/, anyone can help?
[15:11] <AbbyH> tgm4883: I have folders for dist, pool and projects
[15:11] <tgm4883> AbbyH: what's in dist?
[15:13] <linuxgecko> i have a 16.04 system that is not bringing up eth1 or dnsmasq on boot. if i login and manuall `ifup eth1` and `/etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart`  all is fine. how do i get these services running on boot?
[15:13] <Nebi> Standard question to learn: Let's assume I want to install a package (in this case opencv). Using the prebuilt binaries would give a version that is too low. So Shall I try to build from source? Or this there another, maybe safer, alternative?
[15:13] <AbbyH> tgm4883: xenial-security and xenial-updates.
[15:14] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: server or desktop?
[15:14] <EDinNY> ince the last apt-get dist-upgrade, 18.04 does not automatically recognize my network printers.  Ideas?
[15:15] <tgm4883> AbbyH: ok, what is in both of those folders? And where did you mount the ISO
[15:22] <AbbyH> tgm4883: they both have main, multiverse, Release, Release.gpg and universe.
[15:22] <AbbyH> I've just realised, the chmod stuff is just warning. hiding between them I've got 2 errors which are probably the actual issue.
[15:23] <AbbyH> Failed to fetch file:/media/cdrom/dists/xenial-security/main/binary-i386/Packages File not found
[15:23] <AbbyH> same for xenial-updates
[15:23] <AbbyH> I'm not sure why its even looking for i386 tho
[15:23] <tgm4883> AbbyH: where did you mount the ISO?
[15:23] <AbbyH> /media/cdrom
[15:24] <leftyfb> shouldn't there be an ubuntu before dists ?
[15:24] <tgm4883> not necessarily
[15:25] <tgm4883> AbbyH: this is an AMD64 install?
[15:25] <AbbyH> yeah
[15:25] <rfleming> Question: Is 'Appendix B. Automating the installation using preseeding' at https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/apb.html current and up-to-date?
[15:25] <AbbyH> and the only architechture added to dpkg is amd64
[15:26] <tgm4883> AbbyH: try changing your lines in sources.list to deb-amd64 instead of just deb
[15:26] <zoopla> Hi all, I am struggling with apt and dpkg. I can't do anything with apt-get because it tells me to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" but when I do I get the following https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GqCVVCHRK/
[15:26] <tgm4883> I think that's the syntax for it
[15:27] <leftyfb> rfleming: what is your actual support question?
[15:28] <AbbyH> tgm4883: its not deb-adm64. that fails. but found deb [arch=amd64,i386] on the debian multiarch wiki. so going to try that syntax. (obviously without the i386)
[15:28] <tgm4883> AbbyH: yep, just saw that too. Try that
[15:29] <rfleming> leftyfb: I'm looking to preseed and want to know if the documentation is current... because sometimes it's not
[15:29] <leftyfb> rfleming: try it out. It should be fine for you. To ask someone to read through ALL of that to determine if it's up to date is silly
[15:29] <leftyfb> rfleming: preseeding hasn't really changed
[15:30] <AbbyH> tgm4883: that cleared the i386 error. but I now get: Failed to fetch file:/media/cdrom/dists/xenial-security/main/i18n/Translation-en File not found
[15:31] <mnr200> Hello, I'm having issue with installing 3G modem on Ubuntu 16.04
[15:31] <AbbyH> I begining to suspect the people that gave me this iso really have no clue what they are doing
[15:31] <leftyfb> ^
[15:31] <mnr200> Basically it's not showing anything when I connect the modem on my dell laptop
[15:32] <mnr200> and with  $ lsusb
[15:32] <rfleming> leftyfb: I don't believe I asked anyone to read anything.  I simply asked if the documentation was current and up-to-date.  If you don't know, then you don't know; but thank you for the information that preseeding hasn't changed.
[15:32] <mnr200> The device is shown like this : Bus 001 Device 005: ID 19d2:1588 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[15:32] <mnr200> How do I configure it to get it working?
[15:34] <tgm4883> AbbyH: Is that a warning or an error? I'm not sure how important that Translation-en file is.
[15:34] <AbbyH> tgm4883: error, but i found you can stick this in apt conf Acquire::Languages "none";
[15:35] <AbbyH> it now works
[15:35] <AbbyH> :D
[15:35] <tgm4883> sweet
[15:35] <AbbyH> 312 packages to upgrade
[15:35] <tgm4883> \o/
[15:35] <AbbyH> I am not running that this close to friday
[15:35] <tgm4883> yea that's a lot of packages
[15:36] <AbbyH> time to email the idiots that keep chasing me about this crap because "MUG SECURITYIES" and tell them the iso they gave me sucked and I'm not doing shit until monday and only after they take a vm snapshot
[15:37] <AbbyH> *MUH
[15:40] <leftyfb> AbbyH: If this is how they're going to do this sort of thing, I would not only document this, but create a script on the iso that will setup the repo for you
[15:48] <arooni> question; i have this ufw rule; 22                         ALLOW       192.168.1.159 ;; but when i try to connect it fails; i find i have to disable the ufw and then renable it  to allow myself to connect to this machine.  ideas?
[15:53] <Ool>  arooni ufw allow in to any app 'OpenSSH' from 192.168.1.159
[15:53] <Ool> it is that you want to do ?
[15:53] <arooni> Ool: yes.
[15:54] <FurretUber> Hi, my notebook froze when I ejected my USB 3 HDD. I have netconsole enabled and it's printing many messages like [ 1364.258268] watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#2 stuck for 22s! [qemu-system-x86:2890]
[15:54] <Ool> arooni: And you don't write it like that isn't it ?
[15:54] <FurretUber> I think this is related to the mainline kernel, where may I get help?
[15:54] <mnr200> My 3G modem just won't show up, can anyone give me the idea how do I get it working?
[15:54] <arooni> Ool: that's the way the rule is i pasted above; ar eyou saying i need to modify it
[15:55] <Ool> with the right syntaxe ?
[15:56] <Ool> you can 'ufw logging low' or medium to see the log
[15:56] <mnr200> With $ lsusb
[15:56] <mnr200> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 19d2:1588 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[15:56] <Ool> well to write log into /var/log/ufw.log
[16:01] <Kartagis> hello
[16:01] <zoopla> Hi all, I am struggling with apt and dpkg. I can't do anything with apt-get because it tells me to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" but when I do I get the following https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GqCVVCHRK/
[16:01] <Kartagis> how can I fix my shell's encoding? vim gives me problems
[16:02] <Kartagis> I tried locale-gen -a, but didn't help.
[16:04] <Kartagis> LANG is en_US.UTF-8
[16:05] <AbbyH> Kartagis: 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' should be what you need. Check any locales you want are selected for generation and then pick the default on setp 2
[16:05] <AbbyH> *step
[16:06] <Nebi> ok the next step. while compiling opencv he cannot find gtk/gtk.h. My first idea (after googlin) is that the dev libary might be missing. But when wanting to install gtk-3-dev he says something about impossible situation and unmet dependencies. ?
[16:06] <jcdutton> zoopla, when you leave it for 20 minutes, look in "top" and see if it is doing anything
[16:06] <killall> hello ubuntu 18.10 frezees my computer on usb boot of the installer
[16:08] <Nebi> killall, I had a similar issue with 18.04. It worked in my case by adding nomodeset in grub.
[16:08] <zoopla> jcdutton: pretty much all %CPU is at 0
[16:08] <killall> Nebi, i will see where the grub of the pen is :)
[16:09] <Nebi> killall, :)
[16:09] <jcdutton> zoopla, try removing apt-get remove mysql-server
[16:09] <linuxgecko> leftyfb: server
[16:10] <jcdutton> zoopla, how did you get into this problem state?
[16:10] <bodie_> is there a recommended pinentry program in ubuntu 18 for working with emacs?
[16:11] <zoopla> jcdutton: same message "invoke-rc.d: could not determine current runlevel" appears when "apt-get remove"ing
[16:11] <killall> Nebi, not working, still cant select neither of the options.
[16:11] <jcdutton> zoopla, type "runlevel"
[16:11] <zoopla> jcdutton: when i tried to install docker i started getting this problem
[16:11] <zoopla> everything was fine before
[16:11] <jcdutton> what does runlevel return?
[16:12] <zoopla> unknown
[16:12] <jcdutton> are you running this from within a docker instance?
[16:12] <jcdutton> stop any docker processes
[16:13] <zoopla> jcdutton: this is WSL
[16:13] <killall> stuck on ubuntu install cant even select any option, computer stops responding on grub from pen
[16:17] <linuxgecko> leftyfb: thoughts/solutions?
[16:19] <skomorokh> I finally upgraded to 18.04 ...starting with my router. And now dnsmasq isn't being used for dhcp and dns... anyone have any clues as to what changed?
[16:19] <skomorokh> systemd ate networking ...more?
[16:19] <Cheez> i thought dnsmasq was gone from 16.04
[16:20] <skomorokh> Perhaps as defaults... I was still using it. I'd kind of like to still be using it if it's not _too_ painful.
[16:20] <Cheez> yeah my 16.04 boxes dont have it either
[16:21] <Nebi> I'm sorry for asking so much today, but I just don't want to repeat the catastrophe yesterday. So I need gtk library I guess. And while installing with dpkg it says that unmet depedencies. THe following link says "downgrading versions" does the trick. I just wanto to be sure that I am not again putting my computer into fire by doing something like that : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38752214/installing-libgtk-3-dev-unmet-dependencies
[16:21] <jcdutton> zoopla, what is WSL?
[16:21] <nacc> jcdutton: windows subsystem on linux
[16:21] <zoopla> ^
[16:21] <nacc> or something similar
[16:22] <zoopla> *for linux
[16:22] <nacc> not supported here
[16:22] <nacc> !ubuwin | zoopla
[16:22] <jcdutton> zoopla, Ah! In that case, I don't have a clue how to help you.
[16:22] <zoopla> thanks either way
[16:24] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: do you have your interface setup in /etc/network/interfaces?
[16:25] <jcdutton> zoopla, there might be a #wsl channel or somewhere that can help you
[16:26] <bodie_> is there a recommended pinentry program in ubuntu 18 for working with emacs?
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> bodie_: can apt-cache search pinentry help?
[16:27] <leftyfb> bodie_: just FYI, there is no "Ubuntu 18". It's 18.04. It's more than just a point release. The .04 is it's release month
[16:30] <leftyfb> zoopla: https://nickjanetakis.com/blog/setting-up-docker-for-windows-and-wsl-to-work-flawlessly
[16:30] <leftyfb> zoopla: but as suggested, removing mysql-server might be your first step
[16:31] <zoopla> leftyfb: at this rate i will have to reinstall WSL becasue `apt-get remove` throws the same error
[16:32] <jcdutton> zoopla, the problem is the runlevel.  Google wsl and runlevel   or something like that
[16:32] <leftyfb> zoopla: --purge
[16:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> insserv: exiting now without changing boot order!
[16:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> why would i get that message (at the end of a long list of errors) when i try to `systemctl enable someservice`
[16:34] <NoImNotNineVolt> note, the service has nothing to do with changing boot order. it's a webapp.
[16:39] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: Are you replying back to IntelCore(who isn't here anymore) from a conversation from 24 hours ago?
[16:41] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: Do you get the error when you enable any other systemd unit?
[16:45] <leeyaa> hi
[16:45] <leeyaa> does anyone have an example kickstart file for installing Ubuntu using LVM for all volumes ?
[16:47] <R13ose> jcdutton: hi?
[16:48] <dedze> Hi, I found this in my sys.log, does anyone have any idea what is happening? I tried googling but no success. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2hrpkJ3rv8/
[16:48] <leftyfb> R13ose: If you need help, ask for help. Not for an individual.
[16:49] <R13ose> leftyfb: okay sorry
[16:49] <NoImNotNineVolt> leftyfb: i don't have another unit to enable :P
[16:49] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: if you're running Ubuntu you most certainly do
[16:50] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: try it with sshd.service
[16:52] <linuxgecko> leftyfb:  yes.. as static. eth1 is the interface being used for dnsmasq leases.
[16:53] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: can you pastebin the config for the interface? Also, if you need help, you'll need to respond a little more often than once every half hour
[16:53] <proy> \join  #pvm
[16:55] <NoImNotNineVolt> leftyfb: sshd.service is already enabled. if it wasn't, i wouldn't be on this headless box :P
[16:56] <leftyfb> NoImNotNineVolt: try snapd
[16:56] <leftyfb> or install mysql ... or anything that's got a service. To test it
[16:56] <linuxgecko> leftyfb: i'm used to slow support cycles in distro channels :) sorry :/
[16:57] <niiop> How to install wine in lubuntu 18.04  ??
[16:58] <linuxgecko> leftyfb: https://paste.debian.net/1025096/
[16:59] <leftyfb> niiop: same as any other package in Ubuntu
[16:59] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: I take it eth1 isn't coming up?
[17:00] <niiop> leftyfb: from the sof center or from terminal ?
[17:00] <leftyfb> niiop: either will work
[17:00] <kruug> It's funny that people with issues with Ubuntu are getting sent to ##windows.
[17:01] <leftyfb> kruug: Can we help you with something?
[17:01] <kruug> leftyfb: how would you fix this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2GqCVVCHRK/ ?
[17:01] <niiop> leftyfb: there won't be any problems while installing it, because i tried in version 14.04 and didnt get installed ?
[17:01] <leftyfb> kruug: I already told zoopla how I would go about fixing it
[17:02] <leftyfb> niiop: did you try in 18.04?
[17:02] <jcdutton> kruug, the problem is with WSL
[17:02] <niiop> leftyfb: not yet am downloading the iso now ..
[17:04] <leftyfb> jcdutton: actually, that's not true
[17:04] <leftyfb> zoopla: https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/1332#issuecomment-320469132
[17:05] <leftyfb> zoopla: only do the last line if you know you need mysql-server installed
[17:05] <niiop> leftyfb: so wine is stable and installable in the new ubuntu version, I should expect no problem ya ?
[17:06] <leftyfb> niiop: It's really not helpful to assume things are going to go wrong in an environment you haven't even installed yet.
[17:06] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: Look at the difference between your eth0 settings and eth1 settings, besides the fact that they're static/dhcp
[17:07] <niiop> leftyfb: ok i will install it and see then, thanks
[17:07] <zoopla> leftyfb: i end up getting things to do with dpkg configuration with every one of those commands
[17:08] <zoopla> and then 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' is the same problem i started with
[17:08] <leftyfb> zoopla: please pastebin the output so we can see everything you typed and the errors
[17:10] <TheLaw> when will come the upgrade to ubuntu 18.04 in my update list?
[17:11] <leftyfb> TheLaw: If you're running 16.04, then in July
[17:11] <zoopla> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BWj63Rv3v5/
[17:11] <TheLaw> leftyfb: thx :-)
[17:12] <kruug> zoopla: try moving on now and do what you were going to do.
[17:13] <kruug> Since mysql is no longer installed, it shouldn't prevent you from doing what you originally intended to do.
[17:13] <leftyfb> zoopla: sudo fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[17:13] <leftyfb> kruug: it is installed and the dpkg packaging system is in a broken state
[17:13] <zoopla> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7VpXZ6c9Hn/
[17:14] <kruug> leftyfb: ah, right.  I missed the `1 not fully installed or removed.` line
[17:15] <leftyfb> zoopla: it seems like your system might have some issues. If you don't care much about it's possibly going belly-up, then try: sudo kill -9 783
[17:16] <zoopla> leftyfb: alright, i did it... what now?
[17:16] <leftyfb> zoopla: try to purge mysql* again
[17:17] <leftyfb> or dpkg-reconfigure -a
[17:18] <zoopla> i think it's fixed
[17:18] <zoopla> installing mysql now and no issues so far
[17:20] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: ?
[17:21] <ca_cabot> hey all, i've got a wireless printer set up on my network - it's a Brother HL-2280DW using the published Brother drivers for linux. It works, but is incredibly slow - as in, send the doc to printer, 20 minutes later it starts the job. My network is fast (unifi ap-ac-pro WAP [positioned on the ceiling about 8 feet from the wifi printer], pfSense router, etc - network is def not the problem.) I don't know shit about
[17:21] <ca_cabot> printer drivers, there are multiple options for printer setup, CUPS, LPR, etc. which one should i be using, could that be the problem?
[17:21] <leeyaa> guys, trying to install xenial on vmware workstation 12 - it fails on installing grub
[17:22] <leeyaa> is there something special i need to do to install it ?
[17:22] <leeyaa> it simply fails to install grub on /dev/sda
[17:22] <leftyfb> !ohmy > ca_cabot
[17:27] <Sven_vB> I'd like to establish a null-modem like link between two computers, but I'd like to avoid plugging cables (for laziness) and regulations forbid I open my own "wireless network". so what other modes than PAN could I use to hook up their bluetooth antennas? maybe audio?
[17:28] <jcdutton> Sven_vB, make one computer an access point, and the other the client. You can use wpa2 so it won't be open
[17:29] <jcdutton> Sven_vB, google hostapd
[17:29] <Sven_vB> jcdutton, if I'm caught opening a wireless network there I'll be kicked from the building.
[17:29] <Sven_vB> well, not from the top of it. :)) but out of it
[17:30] <jcdutton> Sven_vB, define "open" ?
[17:30] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: this a homestead?
[17:30] <jcdutton> Sven_vB, if you are worried, use a cable
[17:30] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: If so, I'm sure they mean open in the sense that it's open for anyone to use. As in no security. Like you're sharing your internet with the public
[17:31] <Sven_vB> yeah cable would be the obvious solution, I'm trying to find a cool lazy one.
[17:31] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: Otherwise, connecting 2 pc's together via wireless in your own home should not be against any regulations
[17:32] <jcdutton> Sven_vB, if you do get kicked from the building, it will be wireless, so you will stuff have access....<- Joke
[17:32] <jcdutton> s/stuff/still
[17:32] <Sven_vB> I'm trying to use it at a place where they mean "open" as in they don't want any wireless networks except their own ones.
[17:33] <Sven_vB> jcdutton, :D
[17:34] <Sven_vB> so I guess there's currently noone around who knows a cool BT mode that I could use instead of hostap
[17:34] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: you should clarify that with them. If you buy a Chromecast or Echo Dot, it sets up a "wireless network" for you to connect to in order to configure them. Are these devices banned in your building because of this? If so, time to move.
[17:35] <Sven_vB> they've clarified with me, it's part of their cyber security policy.
[17:35] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: you should talk to them and tell them you're looking to connect 2 pc's in your house together. It won't be open to the public. I'm sure it'll be fine. Otherwise, again, move. Because that's REALLY ignorant of them.
[17:35] <Sven_vB> it's not on my home. I've enough wifis here :)
[17:35] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: sounds like they're barely able to spell "cyber security"
[17:36] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: also, BT adhoc connections are less secure and are still considered wireless
[17:36] <Sven_vB> I don't think I'll win them over with that line of argument though. I'll go investigate bt-audio more
[17:37] <Sven_vB> yeah but it's probably not a "network"
[17:37] <Sven_vB> probably a direct 1:1 wifi wouldn't be either buf I wouldn't rely they understand it and think the same.
[17:38] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: sounds like they wouldn't be able to find it if you didn't broadcast it, turned down the signal and obscured the name
[17:39] <Sven_vB> now that's an idea. if I manage to make the signal really weak, that would probably work, as I only need to bridge less than one meter
[17:39] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: Do they ban wireless printers? Echo's? Chromecasts? Air conditioners? How about the owlet sock for baby breathing monitoring? These all create adhoc wireless AP's for you to connect to.
[17:40] <EriC^^> leeyaa: you can install without the bootloader installation part and then manually install grub later using "ubiquity -b"
[17:41] <Sven_vB> they do have chromecasts, although I don't know whether one is near enough. if it is, how would I use that?
[17:41] <leeyaa> Sven_vB: велл
[17:41] <leeyaa> whops
[17:41] <leeyaa> EriC^^: well, apparently you need to use efi so default stuff can work
[17:41] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: the point is, all these devices do the same thing setting up an adhoc connection between 2 pc's does
[17:42] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: they're just as secure/insecure
[17:42] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, you mean I should masquerade as a wifi-enabled printer or chromecast?
[17:42] <EriC^^> leeyaa: no problem, you can chroot to the install after the installation is done, just make sure you boot the iso in efi mode
[17:43] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: I mean, this rule of their is completely ignorant and should be challenged with intelligence
[17:43] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, the rule seems to be based on legal FUD
[17:44] <leeyaa> EriC^^: too much work to boot into it after ;p
[17:44] <Sven_vB> most of the cyber sec there is probably to satisfy insurance terms
[17:44] <leeyaa> im digging how to automate ubuntu install but for now cant figure it out
[17:45] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: then they should ban all "smart" products. Wireless printers. The list is almost endless
[17:45] <Sven_vB> leeyaa, I happen to have an install wizard project that drives Ubiquity, we could team up developing it
[17:47] <leeyaa> Sven_vB: not a developer. just a regular system engineer, wont be much of use :)
[17:48] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, I'll better not tell them or I might soon have to plug even more cables for stuff like printing. ;)
[17:56] <bashM0nk3y> test
[17:56] <bashM0nk3y> can anyone else read this?? sorry im a IRC newb
[17:57] <Sven_vB> bashM0nk3y, I read
[17:57] <bashM0nk3y> awesome! thanks Sven_v8
[17:58] <bashM0nk3y> i guess my client already registered me..? when I was on the kde plasma DE konversation wouldn't auto register
[17:59] <bashM0nk3y> afaik
[18:00] <TortoiseSvn> My volume is so low help!
[18:00] <TortoiseSvn> 18.04
[18:00] <bashM0nk3y> gnome?
[18:00] <TortoiseSvn> Struggling to hear stuff on chrome
[18:00] <TortoiseSvn> yes gnome
[18:01] <bashM0nk3y> i had some issues with pulseaudio on 18.04 myself
[18:01] <oerheks> TortoiseSvn, go into systemsettings, sound # and allow louder than 100% ..
[18:01] <TortoiseSvn> I have certified super hearing and I struggle
[18:01] <TortoiseSvn> but on my windows laptop it is ok
[18:02] <TortoiseSvn> how does that work oerheks ?
[18:02] <TortoiseSvn> It is already ticket but if I untick it I get nothing
[18:03] <Sven_vB> bashM0nk3y, it seems you're not registered to nickserv if you meant that. you can check with: /ns whoami
[18:04] <Sven_vB> bashM0nk3y, for more IRC help, ask #freenode
[18:04] <bashM0nk3y> yes thats exactly what i was trying to remember, thx again
[18:05] <oerheks> TortoiseSvn, maybe you use the line out plug, that gives 8% sound volume or so
[18:06] <TortoiseSvn> ikcerog: Wgat>
[18:06] <TortoiseSvn> oerheks: what?
[18:07] <oerheks> "what" ?
[18:07] <oerheks> what do you not understand, TortoiseSvn
[18:07] <TortoiseSvn> I want to use my laptop speakers
[18:12] <abdelghani> Hi anyone here knwo Sqlinjection
[18:13] <oerheks> abdelghani, join the kali channels for pentesting
[18:14] <oerheks> TortoiseSvn, describe your system please, and soundcard details > sudo lspci -v
[18:14] <TortoiseSvn> oerheks: my laptop is black
[18:15] <oerheks> awesome .... is there a power button on it too ?
[18:15] <TortoiseSvn> yes
[18:16] <tgm4883> !details | TortoiseSvn
[18:16] <TortoiseSvn> It's ok, I don't need to hear things :(
[18:17] <EriC^^> TortoiseSvn: did you try settings > sound ?
[18:18] <leftyfb> abdelghani: https://www.esecurityplanet.com/hackers/how-to-prevent-sql-injection-attacks.html
[18:22] <frenda> Hey there; I have rent a VPS yearly and I want to use it a proxy/tunnel to bypass the censorship (filtering), What kinds of services can I run on it?
[18:22] <frenda> as a*
[18:23] <EriC^^> frenda: if nobody knows here you might find an answer in #netfilter
[18:25] <EriC^^> frenda: maybe this helps https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-ssh-tunneling-on-a-vps
[18:25] <frenda> EriC^^: 😍
[18:30] <TortoiseSvn> EriC^^: I did
[18:30] <TortoiseSvn> It never did this on 16.04 :(
[18:31] <kirbylife> hi
[18:31] <EriC^^> TortoiseSvn: how did you install 18.04? upgrade from 16.04?
[18:32] <EriC^^> hi kirbylife
[18:32] <TortoiseSvn> Install
[18:32] <TortoiseSvn> total fresh
[18:32] <EriC^^> did you happen to try the sound in the live usb?
[18:33] <TortoiseSvn> nope
[18:33] <EriC^^> TortoiseSvn: try sudo apt-get install pavucontrol and run it and see if you can tweak it
[18:34] <TortoiseSvn> EriC^^: Ok instant improvement. Thanks! :)
[18:34] <EriC^^> TortoiseSvn: great! no problem :)
[18:34] <TortoiseSvn> EriC^^: Can I just ask.. I was tired and I asked a bad question.. How can you have the patience to help?
[18:34] <TortoiseSvn> I struggle with that..
[18:35]  * oerheks noted the tip from EriC^^ 
[18:35] <TortoiseSvn> oerheks: To use pavucontrol?
[18:36] <TortoiseSvn> I can finally hear again
[18:36] <Shayed> s
[18:36] <oerheks> TortoiseSvn, yes, pavu can do more than pulse audio volume control.
[18:36] <kirbylife> I recommend always install a fresh copy and not do apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:36] <TortoiseSvn> I just boosted chrome value
[18:36] <TortoiseSvn> But why kirbylife ?
[18:38] <kirbylife> i have had bad experiences doing dist-upgrade
[18:38] <bashM0nk3y> _systemd_is_evil: you on? just wondering which init based distros you would recommend?
[18:39] <bashM0nk3y> kirbylife: broken depends?
[18:39] <kirbylife> yep
[18:39] <bashM0nk3y> same here
[18:39] <bashM0nk3y> although it only happened to me once and I really dont remember what I was using at the time
[18:40] <nikolasc> hi there. My server is always setting ondemand cpufreq with cpufrequtils disabled, tried rc.local but after reboot is always ondemand instead of performance
[18:48] <Sven_vB> nikolasc, do you know a command to fix it after boot?
[18:48] <en1gma> does ubuntu 18.04 come with some kind of screen recorder?
[18:49] <leftyfb> en1gma: did you try typing "screen record" into the software store?
[18:50] <en1gma> leftyb i was thinking it was included. i remember hearing some kind of talk awhile back about some kind of capture being included in the distro
[18:50] <en1gma> will type it like you suggested though
[18:51] <Sven_vB> nikolasc, once you do, the lazy way would be to just schedule your command as a startup task that runs a bit later than whatever applies the other setting. you could fork << setsid sh -c 'sleep 30; your_fix_command' & >> from your rc.local
[18:53] <EDinNY> Looking at power manager...how do I lock the screen after X minutes of inactivity?  It mentions "screensaver", but it is not installed.  Do I need to install it?
[18:53] <RoadRunner> is it possible to change a fs of a partition from lvm to ext4 without loosing data?
[18:53] <leftyfb> RoadRunner: LVM isn't a format, it's a partition type
[18:54] <leftyfb> and no
[18:54] <thingfish> EDinNY: that's in Privacy
[18:54] <matjam> RoadRunner: no
[18:54] <PsychoBoB> ubuntu 18 is good?
[18:54] <matjam> is good, ya
[18:54] <thingfish> ya mon
[18:54] <PsychoBoB> better than 16 ?
[18:54] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: that's not a support question.
[18:54] <matjam> is better than 16 mon
[18:55] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: Try it and decide for yourself
[18:55] <PsychoBoB> what is mon ?
[18:55] <thingfish> sigh
[18:55] <EDinNY> thingfish: What is "privacy" under in settings?
[18:55] <PsychoBoB> is more speed?
[18:55] <thingfish> EDinNY: screen lock
[18:55] <PsychoBoB> For my note?
[18:55] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: Try it and decide for yourself
[18:55] <PsychoBoB> that have a 4 gb of memory
[18:55] <leftyfb> !enter > PsychoBoB
[18:56] <EDinNY> thingfish: I opened "settings".  what do I click on next?
[18:56] <PsychoBoB> I need to ask on windows channel maybe leftyfb ?
[18:56] <thingfish> EDinNY: is this 18.04?
[18:56] <EDinNY> thingfish: yes 18.04
[18:56] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: trolling is offtopic here. Try ubuntu and decide if you like it or not.
[18:56] <PsychoBoB> trolling?
[18:57] <thingfish> EDinNY: look over on the left, after opening Settings.  You'll see Privacy.
[18:57] <PsychoBoB> This channel is to ask about?
[18:57] <thingfish> oh wait EDinNY i'm running GNOME.
[18:57] <thingfish> not the vanilla install.
[18:57] <thingfish> sorry
[18:57] <leftyfb> PsychoBoB: This is a support channel. Typically you'll need to be running or attempting to install Ubuntu in order to properly receive support.
[18:57] <EDinNY> thingfish: I am running xfce4
[18:57] <thingfish> ooohhh
[18:57] <alumn> On Ubuntu 16.04 with an ext4 filesystem, I am trying to learn whether a file was accessed during a certain period. Normally I would look at the last-accessed timestamp `atime` of the file. However, a few days after the period of interest, I know that the file was copied, so that the `atime` was updated then. Is it possible, through the journal or otherwise, to determine whether the file was accessed during the period?
[18:57] <PsychoBoB> first I dead, after I ask about the death
[18:58] <EDinNY> ...but don't they use the same settups?
[18:58] <PsychoBoB> ¬¬
[18:58] <PsychoBoB> take it easy my friend
[18:58] <leftyfb> alno
[18:58] <leftyfb> alumn: no
[18:59] <thingfish> EDinNY: no they don't.  Google says use ctrl+alt+del.
[18:59] <EDinNY> thingfish: I knew that.  I want it to do it on X minutes of inactivity
[19:00] <thingfish> dunno then, EDinNY.  I only ever have used GNOME.
[19:00] <alumn> leftyfb: I thought that the ext4 journal would record updates like that, which I might be able to review with `debugfs` or similar.
[19:01] <matjam> alumn: no, you would need to have enabled auditd
[19:02] <PsychoBoB> ?
[19:04] <bashM0nk3y> couldn't this info be accessed through the system logs if configured correctly?
[19:05] <alumn> bashM0nk3y: What specifically do you have in mind?
[19:05] <matjam> bashM0nk3y: thats what auditd does
[19:05] <matjam> http://xmodulo.com/how-to-monitor-file-access-on-linux.html
[19:05] <bashM0nk3y> whats the difference between auditd and journald?
[19:06] <bashM0nk3y> alumn: im no expert just spit-balling so to speak
[19:07] <matjam> auditd is for auditing any system event. journald is part of systemd.
[19:07] <matjam> systemd controls processes running, and journald logs events related to process control.
[19:09] <bashM0nk3y> ahhh.. good info
[19:09] <matjam> this is not to be confused with a filesystem journal, which journals writes to the filesystem such that filesystem consistency can be reconstructed by replaying the filesystem journal.
[19:10] <alumn> matjam: Is it possible that the access i'm interested in is recorded in the filesystem journal history?
[19:10] <bashM0nk3y> is auditd included in typical ubuntu repos?
[19:10] <leftyfb> alumn: no
[19:10] <bashM0nk3y> i see that its in my repos on 16.04 but not installed by default
[19:11] <AlexPortable> Any ETA on 18.04.1 ?
[19:11] <kostkon> AlexPortable, july
[19:11] <alumn> One more shot. I believe `acct` was enabled during the time that the file was copied, but _after_ the period I'm interested in. Might there be any indication of what the last-accessed timestamp was at the time that I know it was copied, e.g. if `acct` recorded 'changed last-accessed timestamp from XX:XX:XX to YY:YY:YY'?
[19:11] <bashM0nk3y> i ran into a serious bug in mate 18.04 so ill be on 16.x for the forseeable future
[19:11] <AlexPortable> any way i should wait for 18.04.1 ?
[19:11] <matjam> AlexPortable: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[19:12] <leftyfb> AlexPortable: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | AlexPortable
[19:12] <ioria> alumn, ls -ltu will tell you the last file opened, but cp is anothe thing
[19:12] <bashM0nk3y> 'mate-indicator-applet' would suck up free RAM at the rate of about 1MB per sec or so
[19:13] <alumn> ioria: As I understand it, `ls -ltu`  shows the time that the file was copied. I want to know if it was accessed during the week _before_ it was copied.
[19:13] <matjam> alumn: that information is lost
[19:13] <ioria> alumn, nope, when has been opened (not copied)
[19:13] <RoadRunner> trying to reduce size of lvm partition but vgs reports Vsize is still 74G https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qrXGngFbxd/ what to try next?
[19:14] <alumn> ioria: copying a file opens it, no?
[19:14] <ioria> alumn, nope
[19:16] <alumn> ioria: it seems to.
[19:16] <alumn> just tried it
[19:16] <nikolasc> hi there. My server is always setting ondemand cpufreq with cpufrequtils disabled, tried rc.local but after reboot is always ondemand instead of performance
[19:16] <ioria> alumn, run again   ls -ltu
[19:16] <alumn> ioria: yes, it's updated
[19:17] <ioria> alumn,  not here
[19:17] <matjam> ioria: https://github.com/coreutils/coreutils/blob/master/src/copy.c#L1033
[19:17] <matjam> you may have noatime set on the filesystem, ioria
[19:18] <ioria> matjam, nope
[19:18] <hs> hello. i have just installed ubuntu. it randomly freezes for no apparent reason, usually right after i resume (laptop). I read somewhere that I might want to update to the latest kernel.. having trouble doing that. is there an easy way to do so?
[19:19] <nikolasc> any help?
[19:20] <croberts> hs: usually just run sudo apt-get upgrade and see if a new kernel is there
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> nikolasc: perhaps try #ubuntu-server ?
[19:20] <alumn> ioria: Which filesystem
[19:20] <nikolasc> k thx
[19:20] <ioria> alumn,  ext4
[19:20] <RoadRunner> matjam: got a minute?
[19:21] <alumn> ioria: Are you using a file you just created? Do you have relatime enabled? (default)
[19:21] <ioria> alumn,  yep
[19:21] <hs> ok i just did that cmd. it updated something gnome but I dont think the kernel. the kernel version I have is 4.15.-20 generic
[19:21] <alumn> ioria: yeah it won't update atime for a file previously accessed in the last 24 hours
[19:21] <hs> i understand there is a newer version out there
[19:24] <brainwash> hs: easy way would be this https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/ukuu-easy-way-to-install-mainline-kernel-ubuntu
[19:24] <ioria> alumn,  yes, updated ...
[19:25] <matjam> RoadRunner: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67702/how-to-reduce-volume-group-size-in-lvm
[19:27] <hs> ty trying that bw
[19:33] <ioria> alumn,  still there ?
[19:35] <alumn> ioria: ya
[19:36] <ioria> alumn,  can you try   stat --format=%n" "%y  myfile  | sort  -k2
[19:37] <alumn> ioria: that gives the last-modified date
[19:37] <gopal> unable to connect to wifi on ubuntu 18.04 , i am able to see network , but they keep on asking password
[19:37] <alumn> ioria: see `man stat`
[19:37] <bashM0nk3y> gopal: are you using network-manager?
[19:37] <ioria> alumn,  yes...
[19:38] <bashM0nk3y> which comes by default*
[19:38] <gopal> bashM0nk3y, no
[19:38] <alumn> ioria: (i'm looking for time-before-last-accessed)
[19:38] <gopal> yes
[19:38] <ioria> alumn,  ok
[19:39] <gopal> bashM0nk3y, wifi drivers are also installed
[19:39] <bashM0nk3y> im a little new to the gnome2/gnome3 side of network-manager but I have had luck with 'wicd'
[19:39] <bashM0nk3y> in the past*
[19:39] <ioria> alumn,  i thin every time the file is modified, the new modification time overwrites the previous one
[19:40] <bashM0nk3y> connman is another network mgmt tool that is supposed to be for intel hardware
[19:40] <codercat> how do I disable my FUCKING trackpad in lubuntu
[19:40] <alumn> ioria: It wasn't modified, I'm interested in access only.
[19:40] <bashM0nk3y> codercat: i always disable mine as well
[19:40] <codercat> im trying to type and breathing on it makes everything go to shit!!
[19:40] <codercat> I dont see any option to do it in prefrences
[19:41] <bashM0nk3y> codercat: ive used lubuntu before but dont remember how the prefrences work
[19:41] <gopal> bashM0nk3y, broadcom ?
[19:41] <matjam> !ohmy | codercat
[19:41] <bashM0nk3y> gopal: i would try 'sudo apt install wicd' and then systemctl start wicd
[19:41] <bashM0nk3y> codercat: try to go into the
[19:41] <bashM0nk3y> mouse prefs*
[19:42] <ioria> alumn,  yes, you probably need Auditd
[19:42] <codercat> in mouse prefs theres no relevent setting
[19:42] <codercat> my sensitivy and speed is set to minimum
[19:42] <codercat> but this looks like settings for an extrnal mouse
[19:42] <codercat> external
[19:42] <gopal> bashM0nk3y, after that ?
[19:43] <bashM0nk3y> codercat: let me spin up a lubuntu box real quick and ill take a look
[19:43] <codercat> ok thanks
[19:43] <matjam> codercat: install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, use synclient TouchpadOff=1
[19:43] <bashM0nk3y> what version are you running?
[19:43] <matjam> I believe that will work
[19:43] <bashM0nk3y> ^ there you go
[19:43] <matjam> its possible to automate it with udev I think
[19:43] <codercat> ok how to do that
[19:43] <codercat> im new to bash and linux
[19:43] <bashM0nk3y> google is your friend
[19:44] <matjam> codercat: sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[19:44] <bashM0nk3y> aka i dont know how to do that either lol
[19:44] <matjam> codercat: synclient TouchpadOff=1
[19:44] <gopal> bashM0nk3y, it keeps on asking password
[19:44] <matjam> in a terminal
[19:44] <lifeboy> The gnome3 tabswitching functionality is really lousy, not?
[19:44] <ioria> alumn,  unless was used 'sudo'; in this case you can find it in  /var/log/auth.log
[19:45] <matjam> you may have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics installed already though
[19:45] <matjam> which is fine
[19:45] <codercat> yey that worked
[19:46] <jmgb4> Anybody run into the ssh issue with "...no matching key exchange method found. Their offer: diffie-hellman-group1-sha1"?
[19:46] <gopal> could not connect to wicd's bus interface
[19:46] <bashM0nk3y> matjim: is xserver-xorg-input-synaptics a stand-alone application or does it tie into the existing prefrences?
[19:46] <jmgb4> I added the kexalgorithms into sshd_config but still no go
[19:46] <bashM0nk3y> gopal: sudo systemctl reload dbus.service
[19:46] <matjam> codercat: advanced usage, automatic udev so it disables with external mouse and re-enables when you unplug: https://askubuntu.com/questions/824593/udev-rule-for-external-mouse-detection-to-turn-touchpad-on-and-off
[19:47] <lifeboy> I mean, if I have multiple firefox windows open for example, when switch (alt-tab) and wait on firefox, the windows appear, but now I have use the other hand or mouse to select one of the windows. Slow and cumbersome.
[19:47] <lifeboy> Does this bother anybody?
[19:47] <gopal> bashM0nk3y, still same error , it supports broadcom chip ?
[19:48] <codercat> thanks, yeah ill need that too
[19:49] <Tegu> lifeboy: I don't know for sure but try alt + the key over tab
[19:49] <bashM0nk3y> lifeboy: gnome2 > gnome3 ;]
[19:49] <codercat> any reason why wine shows no window(s) when I open a file with it
[19:49] <oerheks> lifeboy, use SUPER + tab
[19:51] <zmc> So I'm on ubuntu vivid, and unable to use the oldreleases mirror as the Packages file is zipped but my apt version only looks for the unzipped Packages files.
[19:51] <zmc> Is this an issue to be fixed or am I just doing it wrong?
[19:51] <leftyfb> !eol | zmc
[19:52] <zmc> ubottu: I'm aware of that, unfortunately since I'm on unusual hardware, that's not an option.  I should be able to use the oldreleases mirror to continue to be able to add and remove software.
[19:53] <zmc> Sorry that should have been directed to leftyfb.
[19:53] <leftyfb> zmc: unfortunately, we cannot support EOL releases. old-releases was created out of convenience, but is not supported here.
[19:54] <zmc> leftyfb: Does old-releases have a maintainer?
[19:54] <matjam> zmc: how unusual is unusual anyway? there's usually a way to get LTS working on unusual hardware
[19:55] <zmc> matjam: It's a parallella board.  It's a zynq arm/fpga with a special math chip. Afaik the SDK and related software for the epiphany accelerator don't work on newer releases.
[19:55] <matjam> zmc: yeah, thats pretty exotic.
[19:56] <zmc> matjam: I've got a modern mainline kernel, and a new FPGA bitstream working. I don't know if anyone in the ubuntu space would care.
[19:58] <matjam> zmc: I might be able to help in #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is only for help supported releases of ubuntu.
[19:58] <zmc> Afaict, the old-releases mirror purged the non-zipped versions of the packages file since modern apt's can handle gz and bz2, this limits the usefulness of the mirror though. Now I've broken my apt since I installed a version incompatible with my current userland.
[19:58] <zmc> matjam: Ok, thanks. I'll move there.
[20:15] <darrend> hi, one of my machines is not seeing the 18.04 release, it keeps telling me 17.10 is the latest. I've switched mirrors and updated cache a few times. How can I troubleshoot?
[20:16] <matjam> darrend: thats normal until 18.04.1 is released in july
[20:16] <oerheks> set upgrade to 'any new version' in your update settings, that will do
[20:16] <darrend> oh. My other machines notified me and I updated them
[20:16] <darrend> oerheks: I did that, it told me 17.10 was latest
[20:16] <oerheks> i see 18.04 in my 17.10, but stick to it a month or so
[20:19] <oerheks> try to run apt full-upgrade on comandline?
[20:20] <darrend> I just ran 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' and now it tells me the update is there. Thx
[20:20] <oerheks> https://imgur.com/a/pmeeoAU
[20:20] <darrend> Before I used the gui, and maybe with a mirror that was slightly out of date
[20:21] <oerheks> easy to check, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[20:21] <oerheks> 'main' will do, i guess
[20:21] <darrend> using main now
[20:33] <lifeboy> oerheks, bashM0nk3y and Tegu, no, neither does it. I expect alt-tab / super-tab to switch between the grouped windows as well. As it does with the non-grouped windows, but it doesn't
[20:33] <oerheks> indeed, it is limited to the current desktop
[20:34] <oerheks> it could work on 2 screens, if you extend your desktop over those 2 screens
[20:35] <maszlo> i am not certain this is a ubuntu question or grub.  can I update a working install (just / and swap partitions) to use UEFI rather than legacy?
[20:36] <hggdh> there is an extension called "alternate tab" that allows for tabbing across workspaces
[20:39] <rustyboi> Hey guys, I have an issue with nvidia drivers. I was using proprietary 390 version for ubuntu 18 and switched back and forth between nouveau. Now the proprietary one don't want to work because apparently it is missing dependencies and apt --fix-broken install can't correct this. I've never submitted bug myself, sorry for missing details. It's GTX 760
[20:40] <maszlo> rustyboi: i think that is from missing kernel source iirc
[20:40] <rustyboi> here is a terminal output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5NFybSrNM2/
[20:41] <maszlo> you are running 32bit?
[20:41] <rustyboi> i tried purging all nvidia related and then reinstalling again, didnt work
[20:41] <rustyboi> 64 bit here
[20:42] <maszlo> what is the nvidia card?
[20:42] <rustyboi> geforce gt 760
[20:43] <fichero> why is ubuntu not asking me for my password to install updates
[20:43] <fichero> is a security issue?
[20:43] <fichero> it used to
[20:43] <AlexPortable> 18.04 ships with kernel 4.15 right? Which ubuntu will ship with kernel 4.16 ?
[20:44] <oerheks> no, but next 18.10 could give kernel 5.0
[20:44] <maszlo> rustyboi: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/134262/en-us
[20:45] <oerheks> fichero, not all updates require password/password reboot
[20:45] <oerheks> ( in the GUI )
[20:47] <fichero> oerheks: k thanks
[20:58] <sivam1> hi all
[20:58] <sivam1> hi all
[21:01] <rustyboi> maszlo: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FkXCy9kNp6/
[21:02] <phocking-2> hey anyone here familiar with jira on 16.04
[21:03] <energizer> I have a virtual machine that i think has bad stuff on it. I want to look inside. Can I do this safely on a computer that's not isolated?
[21:03] <compdoc> sure
[21:03] <energizer> compdoc: me?
[21:03] <compdoc> unless it infects you over the lan
[21:03] <leftyfb> phocking-2: since it's not a supported package, you'll need to contact Jira support for help with Jira on Ubuntu
[21:03] <compdoc> yes, energizer
[21:03] <phocking-2> leftyfb:
[21:03] <phocking-2> isn't that what irc is for? lel
[21:04] <leftyfb> phocking-2: this channel is for support with Ubuntu. Not Jira.
[21:04] <phocking-2> im sure not officially supported by ubuntu but there are folks using it i'm sure
[21:04] <leftyfb> Jira is not part of Ubuntu
[21:05] <skomorokh> My ath9k wlan0 was fine upgrading 15.10->16.04...->17.10 but now when I upgrade to 18.04 it doesn't show up anymore. lsmod shows the ath9k module is loaded, but lshw -C network shows the device as "unclaimed"
[21:05] <phocking-2> leftyfb: bruh, even if you are staff on this channel or whatever, i'm just trying to make something work on an ubuntu server so i think this is relevant. #atlassian is dead
[21:05] <compdoc> skomorokh, usually means the wrong driver
[21:06] <mikl> hi
[21:07] <skomorokh> compdoc: but like... it's been the same module all along afaik. So you think somewhere between 4.13 and 4.15 the ath9k driver dropped support for my specific chipset or something like that?
[21:07] <compdoc> skomorokh, I cant say, but either you have the wrong driver now, or no driver at all
[21:08] <skomorokh> Hm. That's easy enough to test. But it's headless, is there a way to trigger grub to use a specific kernel for next boot?
[21:09] <rfleming> Does the file ~/.config/dconf/user play any importance in a system and need to be backed up, or is it something that's auto-generated?
[21:10] <leftyfb> rfleming: that's your dconf settings. Mainly gtk settings. Like which side of the window the min/max/close buttons are on
[21:10] <leftyfb> and I think keybindings
[21:10] <leftyfb> it's like nothing in size, if you're backing things up, can't hurt to add it
[21:11] <rfleming> So basically gtk+ settings for gnome apps
[21:11] <rfleming> curious because I'm configuring openbox
[21:11] <leftyfb> rfleming: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/dconf
[21:11] <rfleming> (I do have a couple of gnome apps installed)
[21:12] <linuxgecko> leftyfb:  sorry,  i had to afk. looking now.   yes,  eth1 is not comming up.
[21:13] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: Look at the difference between your eth0 settings and eth1 settings, besides the fact that they're static/dhcp
[21:16] <linuxgecko> leftyfb: facepalm.  ok,  that covers that..  ubuntu is not the distro where i spend most of my time. i'm used to it being auto if it's defined.
[21:17] <linuxgecko> leftyfb: will my dnsmasq work fine now? for good measure, i've been restarting it after i ifup eth1
[21:17] <leftyfb> linuxgecko: test it
[21:27] <anthony> x:q
[21:31] <senaps> hi all, 2 questions: I have ubuntu 17.10, it's failed. i have removed dpkg, copy pasted the files for it again, and even before dpkg remove, i couldn't update/remove/install new app's without error from mysql-server not being found (it's sock wasn't where dpkg was looking for) so i have ubuntu 18.04 iso and it's currently being burned into a usb. questions are: 1- should i upgrade or fresh install 2- what i will lose? do i loose my pycharm ce, virtualbox and
[21:31] <senaps>  other programs configs and data? would they break?
[21:40] <oerheks> dpkg removed ... some can fix that, but i would say backup data and reinstall
[21:46] <Nebi> Does someone here now about version conflicts between libprotobuf, tensorflow and python?
[21:47] <Nebi> I have more or less the same issue as here: https://github.com/BVLC/caffe/issues/5711
[21:58] <nacc> Nebi: afaik, tensorflow is not an ubuntu package
[21:59] <Nebi> nacc, well the issue is that libprotobuf is a package in the standard ubuntu repository
[22:00] <nacc> Nebi: yes, I know.
[22:00] <nacc> Nebi: what is your problem with something Ubuntu provides?
[22:00] <nacc> Nebi: 3rd party package/program issues are for those third parties to resolve, not here
[22:01] <goedel> Hello. My Ubuntu 18.04 VM configured for an internal network, with static IP address, is thinking there is no connection and is disconnecting after 30 seconds, even if I have an active SSH session on that network. How to get this crap not to disconnect me.
[22:01] <Nebi> nacc, OK ic
[22:01] <nacc> goedel: configured how?
[22:02] <nacc> goedel: and what virtualization layer are you using?
[22:02] <goedel> goedel: wired connection, static IP address, no DNS, no routing, IPv6 disabled. I am using VirtualBox and it works perfectly fine, but the system is disconnecting me.
[22:02] <nacc> goedel: you mean Network Manager?
[22:03] <goedel> nacc: correct.
[22:03] <nacc> goedel: not entirely sure what you want to do with a network address without routing, but ok.
[22:03] <Jordan_U> goedel: You don't even have a default gateway?
[22:03] <nacc> goedel: what 'system' is disconnecting you?
[22:04] <goedel> It's network manager. The setup is pretty simple - I have an internal network in VBox and the same gway and netmask on both machines. In this example, I have an Ubuntu server with IP 10.10.10.2, gw 10.10.10.0, nmask 255.255.255.0, and the Ubuntu Desktop with iP 10.10.10.1
[22:04] <goedel> This setup was bulletproof up until 18.04.
[22:05] <nacc> (fwiw, your gateway seems invalid to me)
[22:05] <goedel> The settings are dummy anyways. But that is not a problem.
[22:07] <nacc> goedel: well, you've not provided any logs indicating what is actually happening and have changed your description of the problem as well. So, tbh, hard for me to trust that you know what is not the problem already.
[22:08] <goedel> The real question is why the heck does network-manager turn anything off if it determines, by some flawed logic, that there is no connectivity.
[22:09] <skomorokh> I've confirmed that my old 4.13 kernel restores wlan0 ...so apparently somewhere between 4.13 and 4.15 the ath9x module really did stop recognising some variants :(
[22:10] <nacc> goedel: where do you see Network Manager doing this? Your "server" doesn't (or shouldn't) have NM running. So your "desktop" NM indicator is going off?
[22:10] <goedel> nacc: network-manager ON A DESKTOP turns off the interface and displays a pop-up that the connection couldn't be established.
[22:11] <nacc> goedel: ok, did you look in syslog?
[22:11] <goedel> It stopped doing that for now.
[22:12] <nacc> goedel: if it did it before, you'd still see logs in syslog about it
[22:15] <Jordan_U> goedel: Please pastebin the output of "journalctl -u NetworkManager" .
[22:18] <goedel> Relevant bits https://pastebin.com/Wh2utTcp
[22:22] <RoadRunner> matjam: as you suggested, followed these instructions https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/67702/how-to-reduce-volume-group-size-in-lvm but inspite of everything appearing ok in terminal https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2YMDq8NKbG/ GParted still fails to shrink the file system
[22:22] <phablet> how can I restore my missing terminal appeared?
[22:25] <RoadRunner> also can't understand why after issuing "sudo resize2fs /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root 25G", lvs still lists root at 30G and swap at 2G for a total of 32G
[22:26] <Draegon> I need to edit "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-tablet.conf", however, "xorg.conf.d/50-tablet.conf" folder & file doesn't currently exist. I've installed and used gksu, and also used "sudo -i" but cannot create files or folders in that location. Is there something else I need to do? I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 with kernel 4.4.0-124-generic.
[22:27] <Jordan_U> RoadRunner: Becuause you're just changing the size of the filesystem, not the size of the logical volume. It's as if you had run resize2fs on a 30 GB partition, until you modify the partition table (or the LVM logical volume) you can't actually *use* that "free" space.
[22:29] <RoadRunner> Jordan_U: perhaps you could tell me what I am still missing: inspite of everything appearing ok in terminal https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2YMDq8NKbG/ GParted still fails to shrink the file system
[22:31] <the-erm> Is 18.04 considered a stable release?  I know it's LTS, but the question is 18.04 stable or is stable 18.04.1?
[22:31] <matjam> RoadRunner: back up the filesystem, delete the entire lvm set, recreate partitions, restore.
[22:31] <matjam> you've been at this for days
[22:32] <Jordan_U> RoadRunner: It looks like you're using commands to shrink the PV, but what you really want to do is to shrink the LV.
[22:32] <matjam> the-erm: it's LTS, which means it's supported, however it just got released, so if you want something not so buggy, 16.04 or wait for 18.04.1
[22:33] <the-erm> The next question is how reliable is do-release-upgrade ?  It seems like every time I've used it things have failed.
[22:34] <matjam> the-erm: It depends how much custom stuff you've installed via PPAs etc. If you stuck to just whats in the official supported repos, do-release-upgrade tends to work reasonably well.
[22:34] <nacc> the-erm: and what are you upgrading from?
[22:34] <the-erm> 16.04.4
[22:35] <RoadRunner> matjam: good to hear from you again :) yes, days indeed...  I just thought that now I am really close so maybe one more step and victory but I guess there is nothing left to try?
[22:35] <nacc> the-erm: ok, then you shouldn't upgrade (via d-r-u) until 18.04.1 comes out
[22:35] <nacc> the-erm: which is when LTS -> LTS upgrades are supported.
[22:35] <the-erm> I have a few custom repos ... so it's probably not a good idea.
[22:39] <Jordan_U> RoadRunner: http://www.microhowto.info/howto/reduce_the_size_of_an_lvm_logical_volume.html
[22:40] <Jordan_U> RoadRunner: Be very careful that you don't accidentally make your LV smaller than your filesystem. If you accidentally do, you will lose data.
[22:40] <matjam> RoadRunner: you probably have to change the partition table now for the partition that holds the pv
[22:40] <matjam> RoadRunner: you did take a full backup, right?
[22:41] <the-erm> We're going to provision a new server ... I'm still on the fence if I should use 16.04.4 or 18.04.  We're doing major upgrade and it's running 14.04.5 so I'm going to be using 16.04.4 or 18.04, however it looks like it'll be sometime this month or June and 18.04.1 isn't going to be released until July.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> matjam: I think that RoadRunner just wants to use the freed up space for their swap volume, which is on the same PV, so there is no need to touch the PV or the partition table.
[22:41] <matjam> the-erm: I'm running 18.04 on new servers.
[22:41] <the-erm> ok.
[22:42] <matjam> the-erm: As the packages are relatively limited on a server, I'm a bit more confident there.
[22:42] <skatetensor> Why run ubuntu for servers? , i mean most people don't right?
[22:42] <matjam> Jordan_U: oh, right.
[22:42] <the-erm> matjam: Have you had any major compatibility issues?  We're doing weird stuff like running libreoffice and wine on a headless xorg server.
[22:42] <nacc> the-erm: I don't consider it particularly the point of the channel to advise you on that choice
[22:42] <matjam> skatetensor: you'd be surprised. Lots of ubuntu out there on servers.
[22:43] <nacc> skatetensor: 'most people' is not really a useful metric
[22:43] <skatetensor> matjam: nice , i did not know that :)
[22:43] <oerheks> skatetensor, there are no secure numbers of users/downloads/upgraders, sorry
[22:43] <the-erm> nacc: You're right however if anyone is going to know or have experience they'd probably be in here :)
[22:43] <nacc> the-erm: i mean, only you can honestly know. we don't know your application needs, testing done on the 4.15 kernel, etc.
[22:43] <nacc> the-erm: the fact that you depend on wine makes me back away immediately.
[22:44] <matjam> ... wine? eek.
[22:44] <skatetensor> nacc: i just meant that normally i am seeing user run centOS , or some red hat variant , at least in my work
[22:44] <RoadRunner> Jordan_U: no, the freed up space will be used for instal with another ver of os
[22:45] <nacc> skatetensor: right, but your work is what? a negligible fraction of the actual use of Linux by the world.
[22:45] <the-erm> Well it's only for 1 program, and that's to get the length of .dss and .ds2 files.  avprobe doesn't handle those files ... at least a couple years ago it didn't.  In the end the best solution was to load the file and then read the title bar then kill the program.  Hackie but it works.
[22:46] <RoadRunner> matjam: is changing the partition table going to take longer than starting from scratch?
[22:46] <phocking-2> it seems to me these days that ubuntu is the windows of linux essentially; more folks use it than not
[22:46] <matjam> RoadRunner: no, but you could easily screw it up and lose all your data.
[22:46] <phocking-2> i really prefer ubuntu/debian packages to redhat ones tbh
[22:46] <matjam> RoadRunner: so, take a backup.
[22:47] <skatetensor> nacc: thats true but the rise of ubuntu server use is to the lack of IT support
[22:47] <RoadRunner> matjam: ok, so what's involved?
[22:47] <dedze> Hello, I have weird lines in my sys.log starting byt '------------[ cut here ]------------', any idea what it is about? Should I worry about it? Googling didn't help.     https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c89WyWsJjd/
[22:47] <nacc> skatetensor: i have no idea what you're talking about, and we're fairly far off topc. Let's leave it at, you were incorrect about your assumptions about the use of ubuntu on servers.
[22:47] <matjam> so, this is off topic, but anecdotally, ubuntu has destroyed my nginx/apache/mysql/exim/postfix/etc configuration never, but CentOS/RHEL has destroyed it every time I've done a major upgrade
[22:48] <nacc> dedze: usually those are followed by the actual error logs fromthe kernel
[22:48] <matjam> I'm now at the point on my servers I just upgrade to the latest LTS via do-release-upgrade and I don't even bother opening the SSH port.
[22:48]  * matjam is just that confident
[22:48] <nacc> dedze: in your case, it would seem your wireless driver hit an error. Without knowing more about the driver, it may not be anything or it may be fatal
[22:49] <skatetensor> nacc: i doubt that :)
[22:50] <matjam> RoadRunner: honestly I'd just back up, delete the partitions, rebuild, restore. I feel it would be quicker.
[22:51] <dedze> nacc: I recently reinstalled ubuntu and while it was updating (right after downloading), I closed the updating in order to plug the ethernet cable (instead of wifi), could it have caused this type of problems?
[22:51] <nacc> dedze: it's possible, sure
[22:52] <dedze> nacc: Oki thank you
[22:52] <RoadRunner> matjam: the reason I've been so persistent after all this effort is not to feel like it was all a waste of time; since it didn't work, the main things I'm getting out of it is to stay away from lvm and to be so persistent...  I do apreciate all your help though
[22:58] <matjam> RoadRunner: I think it's dangerous to proceed unless you know what you're doing, and you do the research and understand it.
[22:58] <matjam> I'm not comfortable giving you commands to fdisk etc, and would prefer if you figure it out.
[22:59] <matjam> the PV is a partition on the disk, you'll need to figure out how to resize the partition so that it holds the whole PV, now that it's been "shrunk".
[23:06] <hoechts> Hi, I'd like to change the grub menu items. I have tried everything, but it doesnt change at all. I have installed the grub customizer, and my changes show up, but the bot menu does not change.
[23:06] <nacc> hoechts: change how?
[23:06] <hoechts> nacc, editing /etc/grub.d/40_customer for example
[23:07] <hoechts> nacc, or editing /etc/default/grub setting GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR
[23:07] <nacc> hoechts: ok, and you ran `sudo update-grub` after that?
[23:07] <hoechts> yes
[23:07] <hoechts> nacc, the /boot/grub/grub.cfg was updated. I can see my changes
[23:08] <Daekdroom> Hello, I've been messing with Pulseaudio modules, but some settings I changed in /etc/pulse have made my audio stop working through Pulseaudio (onnly Alsa works now). I've been unable to restore that folder's defaults through apt...
[23:08] <nacc> hoechts: but if you drop into grub, you don't see the corresponding changes?
[23:09] <hoechts> nacc, i reboot and i see grub 2.xx (2.02 i guess)
[23:09] <hoechts> nacc, my added entries do not show up, nor does the renaming to be shown
[23:10] <nacc> hoechts: i'm not sure, sorry -- that's surprsing. You could see if, for instance, changing /etc/grub/default's kernel commandline works
[23:11] <hoechts> nacc,  you mean /etc/grub.d/default ?
[23:11] <oerheks> hoechts, what OS installed Grub?
[23:11] <hoechts> nacc, eh i mean /etc/default/grub
[23:11] <hoechts> oerheks, 18.04 LTS
[23:12] <oerheks> oke no other linux beside this ?
[23:12] <hoechts> several times 18.04 LTS
[23:12] <oerheks> just to rule out than an other OS rules over grub
[23:13] <hoechts> oerheks, its a completley new HDD. No other HDDs attached. I have installed 18.04 LTS some days ago, and several more today
[23:13] <hoechts> oerheks, hence, its very important to name these instalations. Otherwise, i dont know which one is the one i want to boot to
[23:14] <Draegon> Is there a difference to editing files located in "/etc/X11/" compared to "/usr/share/X11/"? As referring to 2 different guides 1 says to the first, the 2nd says to use the other.
[23:14] <erhan> hi
[23:14] <erhan> can you help me
[23:15] <Draegon> erhan: you need to specify what you need help with
[23:16] <Daekdroom> I've fixed my issue by manually extracting /etc/pulse files from pulseaudio.deb. No idea why apt-get install --purge --reinstall pulseaudio didn't do that itself
[23:16] <erhan> not specify
[23:17] <erhan> screen resolution
[23:18] <Draegon> erhan: You NEED to detail WHAT exactly your issue is, as the users in channel won't know whether they can help you, without knowing details of the issue.
[23:19] <matjam> !ask | erhan
[23:20] <erhan> rpi-3 attached to Philips brand TV
[23:20] <erhan> does not give proper resolution
[23:22] <erhan> If you can help xrander
[23:22] <erhan> rpi-3
[23:22] <erhan> os ubuntu mate
[23:23] <Draegon> matjam: Continuing from yesterday, I've been speaking with spbnick from Digimend github, and on their irc channel. The updated guide (today) says to edit /etc/x11/ but I can't get access. Should I edit files in that location, or the /usr/share/x11/ location?
[23:23] <matjam> Draegon: edit as root
[23:24] <erhan> ok
[23:24] <Draegon> I've tried, I used gksu after installing it, then also tried sudo -i, I can get access to the etc/... location but cannot create any files or folders there.
[23:24] <nacc> Draegon: they are different files, but if you can't edit one, then you can't edit the other
[23:25] <nacc> Draegon: fwiw, /etc/X11/ (not etc/x11)
[23:25] <nacc> Draegon: and same for /usr/share/X11/
[23:26] <matjam> Draegon: sudo gedit
[23:26] <Draegon> sorry, that's what I meant, just fast typing.
[23:26] <nacc> hoechts: yes, sorry, re: /etc/default/grub
[23:26] <matjam> sudo gedit file.blah
[23:26] <hoechts> nacc, oerheks I finally could change the menu entry of the first Ubuntu Installation. I booted to this installation, change the name in /etc/default/grub, ran update-grub, and the first menu item war renamed. Now i booted to the second installation, ran update-grub on this installation, as well as on the first installation, but the 2nd menu item does not change. Andy Ideas?
[23:26] <nacc> matjam: no, you should not use sudo with graphical apps
[23:26] <matjam> nacc: no?
[23:26] <nacc> matjam: gksu is for that purpose
[23:26] <matjam> does it mess up dotfiles?
[23:26] <nacc> matjam: it has been known to make desktops unusable, yes.
[23:26] <matjam> ah
[23:26] <matjam> my bad
[23:26] <Draegon> I tried that, it says the file folder doesn't exist, and won't allow me to make them
[23:27] <matjam> I always use vim .. :P
[23:27] <nacc> tbh, I don't know why anyone needs a GUI editor to edit system files, but whatever
[23:27] <hoechts> nacc, i juste used gedit to edit /etc/default/grub ...
[23:28] <Draegon> the guide I'm using is https://github.com/DIGImend/digimend-kernel-drivers#configuration
[23:29] <nacc> hoechts: you have multiple installations of grub?
[23:29] <nacc> hoechts: of ubuntu, i mean
[23:29] <matjam> Draegon: are you talking about /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-tablet.conf
[23:29] <hoechts> nacc, yes, several
[23:29] <nacc> Draegon: there may not be an /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[23:30] <nacc> hoechts: ok, then i think it will matter *which* one is actually controlling the installed grub
[23:30] <erhan> thx Draegon:
[23:30] <hoechts> nacc, i guess the first one. The first one was actually able to rename its own menu item, but how am i supposed to change the other ones?
[23:30] <FaTaL_G> Would anyone here be willing to help me walk through steps to determine what is wrong with my Ubuntu 16.04 router? Im quite frustrated with the Ubuntu update/upgrade process.... every single time I've ran: sudo update; sudo upgrade; sudo reboot, the sytem never reboots fully functional
[23:31] <nacc> FaTaL_G: `sudo update` is not a command you'd run
[23:31] <nacc> FaTaL_G: do you mean `sudo apt-get update` ?
[23:31] <FaTaL_G> specifically, at this time, the dhcp server is borked
[23:31] <Draegon> That's the issue, neither file or folder doesn't exist, however the xorg.conf.d does exist in the /usr/share/x11/ location. Should I just create the file in the /usr/share/... location?
[23:32] <FaTaL_G> and for some reason one of my 6 ethernet ports which actually serves the internet keeps coming up inactive, and I have to force ifup it
[23:32] <FaTaL_G> nacc: yes, I was just being brief
[23:32] <xamithan> So set it to onboot=yes in the config
[23:33] <nacc> Draegon: read `man xorg.conf`, maybe -- /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is for package and vendor config files
[23:33] <FaTaL_G> I've had this machine working fine. And I can reboot fine, but over the last few months, when I do the apt-get updates/upgrades, after a reboot, SOMETHING is always broken
[23:33] <nacc> Draegon: whereas /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d is for local system configuration
[23:34] <nacc> FaTaL_G: was your dhcp server actually upgraded?
[23:35] <FaTaL_G> nacc: what logfile file should I confirm that in
[23:35] <nacc> FaTaL_G: /var/log/apt/history.log
[23:36] <matjam> Draegon: just create /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the configuration there.
[23:37] <matjam> Draegon: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:38] <skatetensor> FaTaL_G: when you say broken you mean not working or could not be installed?
[23:38] <hoechts> nacc, anyway, thanks for your helping attempts. After ~2 hours i give up and choose a completely different solution, like one usb-drive per installation, or something similar...
[23:41] <FaTaL_G> nacc: no, isc-dhcp-server was not modified
[23:41] <FaTaL_G> skatetensor: not working any longer despite me making zero user edited configuration changes
[23:41] <nacc> hoechts: i honestly don't know how those multiple grub config setups are meant to work; I assumed they'd either share a /boot/grub/ partition (which means they'd all read the same data), or perhaps grub has some autodetection logic
[23:42] <FaTaL_G> as I mentioned tho, I have 6 enet devices, *(that includes a br0 anda wlan), but ONE of my enet cards doesnt even show up on ifconfig without the -a, and I have to ifup it to get it to grab an IP from my fios ont
[23:42] <skatetensor> FaTaL_G: Had the same problem yesterday was i was recovering elementary , most of my repos wouldn't work
[23:42] <skatetensor> sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf
[23:43] <skatetensor> and making dynamic updates allowed worked for me
[23:43] <FaTaL_G> which is NEW behavior... it didnt do that before the last reboot where I upgraded/updated
[23:43] <hoechts> nacc, I just have one more idea i will try out now: I set up 40_custom on the initial ubuntu installation, adding all the menu entries i want. I think this should work. brb
[23:44] <skatetensor> FaTaL_G: might be useful to see whats is causing your problem, if you look at the bug reports lately snapd and Braille device support seem to mess up the updates
[23:45] <FaTaL_G> skatetensor: I cant imagine that is the issue here, my update WORKED, and my assertion (may be incorrect but so far has been spot on), is that each time I perform a apt-get update/upgrade, my system ahs issues when I reboot
[23:45] <skatetensor> Do you have the time to look at the installation?
[23:45] <skatetensor> meaning , what erros are you getting at the terminal?
[23:47] <FaTaL_G> I updated april 1st... and actually wondered if ubuntu was hacked, because afterwards, my system wouldnt even boot. With help from users here, it turned out to be a "corrupt" or incomplete grub2 upgrade/update process, but as a user triggering the apt-get, I had zero indication that anything went wrong
[23:48] <FaTaL_G> I do
[23:48] <Blood_n_Binary> Ello
[23:48] <FaTaL_G> thats why I came here. Im not linux dumb, but there is a lot where I dont always know where to start, especially because over the years, paths change, log daemons change, etc.
[23:49] <Blood_n_Binary> Same I have dealt with linux since the old days....
[23:49] <FaTaL_G> yea, when redhat was.... 7..... not 7.0
[23:49] <FaTaL_G> ;)
[23:49] <FaTaL_G> dot matrix printers
[23:49] <Blood_n_Binary> 30
[23:49] <Draegon> It won't allow me to save as the file/directory doesn't exist. When I tried to create the folder, it just made a xorg.conf.save file.
[23:50] <FaTaL_G> I do not have any errors on the terminal atm
[23:50] <FaTaL_G> but the isc-dhcp-server is not running
[23:50] <FaTaL_G> and based on my limited knowledge, it could be part of why the ethernet device connected to my ont is shutting off
[23:51] <FaTaL_G> which, if its something like the isc-dhcp is trying to dhcp my ont while my ont is dhcp'ing my ubuntu router, might point to the culprit
[23:52] <FaTaL_G> but again.... it worked fine before apt-get update/upgrade, and afterwards, its "broke"
[23:52] <Blood_n_Binary> did you set the server repository to something shady? ...hehe
[23:52] <hoechts> nacc, this one worked... So lessons learned: There is only one ubuntu installation managing grub. All other installations have no effect on the grub loader... All menu entries i was trying to change are found in the os-probe section. Hence, changing 10_linux does not have any effect
[23:53] <FaTaL_G> enp0s31f6 boots up "disabled"
[23:53] <Blood_n_Binary> Fatal_G I would try and change the repository location.  This might be your buggaboo
[23:54] <FaTaL_G> I'm using standard ubuntu ootb servers
[23:55] <Blood_n_Binary> what error are you getting?
[23:55] <FaTaL_G> but if I have test sources on, I'll turn that off
[23:55] <Draegon> If I'm creating the file through sudo nano, is there a command to create the folder, /xorg.conf.d/ so I can create/edit the 50-tablet.conf file?
[23:55] <FaTaL_G> where do I look for the error? There are a lot of locations to look at logs
[23:56] <Blood_n_Binary> try and run sudo apt update and copy paste what it says
[23:56] <skatetensor> Draegon: mkdir
[23:57] <Draegon> Will that work in sudo nano, or run it from a different instance of Terminal?
[23:58] <FaTaL_G> Blood_n_Binary: https://pastebin.com/dt59D0iw
[23:58] <NEOalquimista> Draegon, create the folder first with mkdir, then enter nano and write the file
[23:58] <Draegon> OK, thanks
[23:59] <FaTaL_G> I have backports, which I might not need anymore, because I use a PCI-66U
[23:59] <skatetensor> Draegon: i would do something like mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[23:59] <skatetensor> Draegon: sudo nano  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[23:59] <Blood_n_Binary> you can create the filename after your done with editing in nano
[23:59] <Draegon> Thanks. Yes. I'll try that.