[01:47] <BionicMac> Does anyone use 'pasuspender'? As in editing your qjackctl settings under advanced in ther server perofix field to say 'pasuspender -- /usr/bin/jackd' instead of just '/usr/bin/jackd' ? I'm reading about this at qjackctl wiki. I've not had a lot of trouble with pulse-audio running while using jack, I need to record from internal mic andd I am having hell with it.
[01:48] <cfhowlett> #opensourcemusicians is my goto for such esoteric knowledge, BionicMac
[01:49] <BionicMac> cfhowlett: cool, I'll lurk around there a bit. Stragest thing here, I am routing complicated setups with no problem, yet I can't seem to record from the internal mic.
[01:49] <BionicMac> Although not a deal breaker sometimes it would be handy.
[01:50] <cfhowlett> BionicMac, I don't use jack enough to advise, but I thought it had specific capability to select and route audio sources
[01:51] <BionicMac> cfhowlett: yes it does. It is a mystery for me with the internal mic deal though. I'm thinking it maybe due to pulseaudio running at the same time. Although I have no issues with anything but the internal mic.
[01:51] <BionicMac> Probably something dead simple.
[01:52] <cfhowlett> ps -x | grep pulseaudio && kill -9 ####   <<< pid
[01:52] <cfhowlett> then do your routing
[01:52] <BionicMac> cfhowlett: Ok, I will try that. Thanks
[02:50] <OvenWerks> BionicMac: pasuspender has not been required for at least 4 years.
[02:50] <OvenWerks> maybe longer
[02:51] <OvenWerks> by 14.04 PA would allow jackd to take over a device it was using.
[04:30] <BionicMac> OvenWerks: noted, ok so I am trying anything to record from internal mic.
[04:30] <BionicMac> no go so far
[04:30] <cfhowlett> really hoped this was working by now ...
[04:34] <OvenWerks> BionicMac: ok, internal mic on a laptop?
[04:35] <BionicMac> OvenWerks: no, iMac desktop, internal sound
[04:35] <cfhowlett> iMac?  that may complicate things ...
[04:36] <OvenWerks> ok, does alsamixer show the mic as being there?
[04:36] <BionicMac> of course it does, but all other things sound related work perfectly.
[04:36] <BionicMac> yes
[04:36] <BionicMac> ubt i do have 2 sound chips, one regular and one for HDMI
[04:37] <BionicMac> but*
[04:37] <OvenWerks> pretty normal.
[04:37] <BionicMac> I never use the HDMI chip unless I am using optical though.
[04:37] <OvenWerks> on a PC, they would both show up as one devce but differenc esubdevices.
[04:38] <BionicMac> let me paste some things
[04:38] <OvenWerks> I am not sure on mac
[04:43] <BionicMac> yeah, I think I see a clue.. maybe -> I can't un-mute the only sliders that say 'mic'
[04:43] <BionicMac> https://bionicmac.club/index.php/s/DdNM3oQLNiECXBp
[04:44] <BionicMac> OvenWerks: ss of 'alsamixer -V all' and output of 'cat /proc/asound/cards' in the text file
[04:44] <BionicMac> I mean those 'Mic' sliders in alsamixer do not move, although they do not say 'muted'
[04:45] <OvenWerks> ya, I am looking at that.
[04:51] <OvenWerks> does it work through pulseaudio?
[04:51] <BionicMac> no, never can get mix working anywhere
[04:51] <BionicMac> mic*
[04:52] <BionicMac> with/wo jack etc
[04:52] <BionicMac> zita-a2j -j Mic -d hw:0,1 -r 48000 -n 3
[04:52] <BionicMac> when I run that the mic does show up in qjackctl
[04:52] <OvenWerks> with audio?
[04:52] <BionicMac> but I can't get anything out of it.
[04:53] <OvenWerks> right
[04:53] <BionicMac> it shows up in qjackctl connections, no sound at all
[04:53] <OvenWerks> so the problem is that it is turned off somehow
[04:53] <BionicMac> yep
[04:54] <BionicMac> maybe I can run this script that probes hda sound devices.. it does pin routing
[04:54] <BionicMac> it was the only way I got this sound card to work at all originally.
[04:56] <BionicMac> OvenWerks: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/HDA_Analyzer <- this is how I got the sound card to work at all.
[04:57] <OvenWerks> There was an utility I saw that does pin assignments for hda
[04:57] <BionicMac> I'll let ya know what gives. Taking a break right now. Plus I had to run that script to do pin routing.
[04:59] <BionicMac> plus I had to add 'options snd-hda-intel model=imac27' line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[05:00] <BionicMac> I'm getting there...
[05:03] <BionicMac> I just need this -> http://www.rme-audio.de/en/products/babyface_pro.php
[05:03] <BionicMac> =)
[05:03] <BionicMac> done.
[05:03] <BionicMac> lol
[05:04] <BionicMac> this -> http://www.rme-audio.de/en/products/fireface_ufx-plus.php
[05:04] <BionicMac> =0
[05:05] <BionicMac> OvenWerks: Is that HDA_analyzer the same utility you were talking about?
[05:08] <OvenWerks> hda-jack-retask
[05:11] <OvenWerks> it should be in the alsa-tools and/or alsa-tools-gui package
[05:12] <OvenWerks> Ha, therer it is, it is even ion the menu
[05:13] <OvenWerks> it gives a list of jacks on the computer and what they are used for right now.
[05:15] <BionicMac> ok
[05:16] <OvenWerks> I have to go get kids to bed.
[05:17] <BionicMac> got it, later
[15:11] <EDinNY> Since the last apt-get dist-upgrade, 18.04 does not automatically recognize my network printers.  Ideas?
[15:13] <ErichEickmeyer> EDinNY: I'd help you, but I'm off to my day job now. Seeing the lack of responses, I'd check #ubuntu to see if there's anybody there who can walk you through it since it might not be a Studio-specific problem.
[15:14] <EDinNY> tnx
[16:01] <OvenWerks> Hmm I don't see anything in my to be updated list that should affect network printers (keyring).
[16:02] <OvenWerks> after upgrade: settings->printers still shows my network printer.
[16:02] <OvenWerks> Is your network printer a windows shared printer? Mine is not, it is a cups printer.
[18:19] <cosmicfires> I'm installing 18.04 and gruib install fsiled. how do I fix that?
[19:00] <EDinNY> How do I lock the screen after X minutes of inactivity?
[19:21] <OvenWerks> EDinNY: setting->power manager->security
[19:22] <EDinNY> thanks
[20:11] <vanessarago> Hi!