[13:20] <wexx> hey guys
[13:25] <diogenes_> hey wexx
[13:33] <wexx> you guys are the linux pros?
[13:35] <diogenes_> some pros some cons
[13:38] <wexx> you run lubuntu right?
[13:38] <wexx> just installed lubuntu on my old pc, and I'm a linux beginner
[13:39] <diogenes_> nice
[13:39] <diogenes_> congrats
[13:39] <wexx> hehe thanks
[13:40] <wexx> trying to make it look a bit better, you have any tips?
[13:40] <diogenes_> depends on what meaning you out in "better"
[13:42] <wexx> A bit more colourful ;p
[13:44] <diogenes_> wexx, maybe here you can find something useful: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=customize+lxde
[13:46] <wexx> will take a look at that.
[13:46] <wexx> thanks
[13:49] <diogenes_> yw
[14:24] <sam1321> hello,is anyone there
[14:25] <diogenes_> sam1321, 62 people
[14:26] <sam1321> are you an bot or a real person?
[14:26] <diogenes_> me <[14:26] <sam1321> finally someone who i can talk to
[15:51] <cristian__c> hello
[15:51] <cristian__c>  I've installed dropbox but applet doesn't show dropbox icon and  it's not working
[15:52] <cristian__c> I've created a new autostart entry changing dropbox launch command
[15:52] <cristian__c> unfortunately, dropbox default autostart is often enabled by the system, even if I disable it by lxsession
[15:52] <cristian__c> I've tried some workarounds but I don't know how to delete default dropbox autostart entry (in order to use custom new dropbox launch autostart)
[15:52] <cristian__c> any ideas?
[16:00] <diogenes_> cristian__c, /etc/xdg/autostart
[16:00] <cristian__c> yeah, I0ve looked at it too
[16:00] <cristian__c> but, I found dropbpx entry in .config/autostart
[16:01] <cristian__c> *dropbox
[16:01] <diogenes_> rename both and add your custom
[16:02] <cristian__c> diogenes_: I've tried to change Exec command in .desktop file
[16:02] <cristian__c> it seems my changes are overwritten by OS after a bit
[16:03] <diogenes_> i doubt they are
[16:04] <cristian__c> diogenes_: I confirm: /etc/xdg/autostart doesn't include dropbox .desktop
[16:06] <diogenes_> maybe it's a service, systemctl status dropbox
[16:06] <cristian__c> diogenes_: about .config/autostart/dropbpx.desktop, Exec= line is currently: dropbpx start -i
[16:07] <cristian__c> but lxde/lubuntu doesn't accept dropbpx applet, so, applet appears just by using another command
[16:07] <cristian__c> diogenes_: ok, I try systemctl to see
[16:08] <cristian__c> ok, result:
[16:08] <cristian__c> dropbox.service
[16:08] <cristian__c> Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
[16:09] <cristian__c> Active inactive (dead)
[16:09] <cristian__c> unfortunately, lxsession doesn't allow to delete entries inside its gui
[16:09] <diogenes_> cristian__c, ok if you run your sudtom command in terminal, do you get your desired effect?
[16:10] <diogenes_> custom*
[16:10] <cristian__c> yeah, I've also added it as custom manual autostarted application
[16:11] <cristian__c> in Lxsession co figuration -> Autostart -> Manual autostarted applications
[16:11] <cristian__c> my custom entry is: dbus-launch dropbox start
[16:12] <diogenes_> cristian__c, and if you open dropbox app and look through the settings and disable autostart?
[16:12] <cristian__c> but if Dropbox entry is checked (inside Known applications table), my custom entry doesn't work
[16:12] <cristian__c> diogenes_: I've tried to see dropbpx settings in past
[16:12] <cristian__c> I look at it again
[16:13] <cristian__c> I've right-clicked dropbox app,et and then Pteferences->General
[16:14] <cristian__c> in System, 'Start Dropbox at system boot' is not checked
[16:14] <cristian__c> but Dropbox entry is checked in lxsession configuration gui, oddly
[16:16] <cristian__c> diogenes_: I don't know if ypu need a screenshot
[16:17] <cristian__c> *you
[16:17] <diogenes_> ok, remove all the entries that have dropbox in ~/.config/autostart
[16:17] <diogenes_> run: vi ~/.config/autostart/mydropbox.desktop
[16:18] <diogenes_> there you write:
[16:18] <diogenes_> [Desktop Entry]
[16:18] <diogenes_> Name = My Dropbox
[16:18] <diogenes_> Type = Application
[16:18] <diogenes_> Categories = Network;
[16:18] <diogenes_> Icon = lubuntu
[16:19] <diogenes_> Exec = sh -c "<your command>"
[16:19] <cristian__c> .comfig/autostart includes just: Lockscreen, GSettings data convert, Gnome settings daemon, Dropbox, Indicator Application, LXRandR autostart .desktop files
[16:19] <diogenes_> save, close and run: chmod +x ~/.config/autostart/mydropbox.desktop
[16:19] <cristian__c> ok, but why 'sh -c'?
[16:19] <cristian__c> ah, ok, sorry
[16:20] <diogenes_> that's more reliable
[16:20] <diogenes_> with sh -c ".."
[16:21] <cristian__c> I'm fear OS will create again Dropbox default entry if I delete the default one and I add my custom .desktop file
[16:21] <cristian__c> btw.
[16:21] <cristian__c> I try your tip, btw
[16:21] <diogenes_> we'll see, after reboot what happens
[16:22] <cristian__c> it could happen after some reboots/sessions too
[16:22] <cristian__c> (system update)
[16:22] <cristian__c> *updates
[16:23] <cristian__c> *updates
[16:29] <cristian__c> diogenes_: a new entry named 'Fixed Dropbox' is appearing inside Known applications of lxsession gui
[16:29] <cristian__c> now, I reboot
[16:30] <diogenes_> ok
[16:32] <cristian__c> I'm back again
[16:33] <cristian__c> diogenes_: Os has added again Dropbox entry in lxsession gui table
[16:34] <diogenes_> ok that's weird
[16:34] <cristian__c> so, I don't know how to remove it
[16:34] <diogenes_> try this: find /etc/ -type f 2>/dev/null | grep dropbox
[16:35] <cristian__c> ok
[16:35] <diogenes_> that will look for any dropbox in /etc because that's the usual place where applications get their configs
[16:36] <cristian__c> ok, found, 1 line result
[16:37] <cristian__c>  /etc/apt/spurces.list.d/dropbpx.list
[16:37] <cristian__c> *dropbpx.list
[16:37] <cristian__c> *dropbox
[16:37] <cristian__c> not good news
[16:37] <diogenes_> yeah that's not what we need
[16:38] <cristian__c> I'm looking for dropbox in package manager
[16:38] <wxl> doesn't exist; it's proprietary software
[16:38] <cristian__c> Proprperties
[16:38] <cristian__c> -p
[16:38] <cristian__c> Installed files
[16:39] <diogenes_> have a look here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/dropbox
[16:40] <cristian__c>  /usr/bin ....; /usr/lib .... , libnautilus-dropbpx.so
[16:41] <cristian__c> I've got the opposite issue (about archlinux wiki)
[16:49] <cristian__c> Note: When using any of these methods, you need to prevent Dropbox from doing a standard autostart by unchecking Dropbox - Preferences - General - Start Dropbox on system startup. This prevents Dropbox from creating the ~/.config/autostart/dropbox.desktop file and thus from starting twice.
[16:49] <cristian__c> from archlinux wiki page.
[16:50] <cristian__c> diogenes_: unfortunately, as told earlier, this option is already not checked
[16:52] <diogenes_> cristian__c, well, what can you say about proprietary stuff, they do what they want and you can't figure it out what is it doing
[16:52] <cristian__c> yeah, and I don't find a way to prevent it to add the entry over and over
[16:53] <diogenes_> there is one way but it's a radical way
[16:53] <cristian__c> diogenes_: I know this issue happens o  lxde but not in unity/gnome (and maybe kde)
[16:54] <cristian__c> http://blog.pengyifan.com/dropbox-icon-is-not-working-xubuntu-16-04-lts/
[16:55] <cristian__c> ' The reason is that Dropbox starts to use “indicator area” for their tray icon instead of “notification area”'
[16:57] <diogenes_> ChanServ, there is a way to prevent it to write to a folder by running: sudo chattr +i /path/to/folder so that way it will have all the files inside of the folder intact, nothing to be removed and nothing to be added
[16:57] <diogenes_> but kater don't forget to run: sudo chattr -i /folder to make it r/w again
[16:57] <diogenes_> later*
[16:59] <cristian__c> diogenes_: Could change dropbox Exec line in dropbox.desktop and use chattr +i?
[16:59] <cristian__c> *could I
[16:59] <diogenes_> yep
[16:59] <cristian__c> *chattr +i command after .desktop change
[16:59] <diogenes_> yes, try that
[16:59] <diogenes_> and reboot
[16:59] <cristian__c> ok
[21:03] <Thedarkb-X40> Installer crashed due to an IO error
[21:03] <Thedarkb-X40> balls