[00:01] on that note, one other issue I am observing, is a video "stripe" that comes and goes esp under higher quality video playback, is that also a "known issue/fact"? [00:01] whats the command for checking opencl version? [00:03] now for my issue, i have had a ubuntu server like setup on 32bit for aprox 8yrs, i think its time to go 64bit, having a home partition that has been seeing 32bit processes for long time now should not make a diff from the user side if i move to 64bit, yes? === BusyLM1 is now known as BusyLM [00:05] lapaga: SlidingHorn: Two_Dogs: so pavucontrol is installed: 3.0-4 [00:06] RoadRunner: was or is now? [00:06] Two_Dogs: was all along - I did nothing [00:07] RoadRunner: bring it up, look for profile specific to amd/radeon output [00:07] hdmi:3 is always a good choice [00:08] RoadRunner: bring it up, look for profile in configuration panel specific to amd/radeon output [00:16] Two_Dogs: just found a pavucontrol.ini any idea where to look for more? [00:17] RoadRunner: no, configuration tab of pavucontrol is all gui, no cli [00:18] Two_Dogs: not sure where that would be... [00:18] applications? [00:21] RoadRunner, you might have two...sound and pulseaudio look at both [00:23] Two Dogs: ahh, guys, does pavu stand for Pulse Audio Volume Control or is that something else/extra? [00:24] hold mouse over one or the other and click...not a big deal to check [00:27] ok, I am having an embarasingly dumb moment... I've been there all along, just didn't realize there were more tabs hidden... Found Config tab and the HDMI device... checking now [00:35] Two_Dogs: the best profile is 5.1 surroung? [00:35] *surround [00:35] RoadRunner_: you have the hardware for 5.1 sound? [00:36] vid cards feeds hdmi to the surround box which has 5.1 [00:36] RoadRunner_: cool, then yeah, sounds like an excellent choice [00:39] Two_Dogs: in Output Devices tab, clicking the "set as fallback" button will preserve the setting or is it lost whenever tv is turned off? [00:41] RoadRunner_: fallback is last resort setting, if the tv is gonna be an on/off prospect then its not much of a fallback, my opinion [00:42] RoadRunner_: its all test and trial now, plink with it [00:45] Two_Dogs: by that you mean that 18.04 is still a trial version? [00:45] no [00:57] Two_Dogs: after tv was turned off and back on the sound worked correctly but the "set as fallback" button got deselected; what is this button for then? [01:04] Does anyone here have Xubuntu? The only hold back I have from switching is the windows key does not open the 'start menu' [01:04] Is there a way around this? [01:06] You mean the super key ? [01:06] Budgii: pretty sure this has been pointed out to you before: Menu > Settings Manager > Keyboard > Application Shortcuts. Fine xfce4-popup-whiskermenu [01:07] s/fine/find [01:07] (by default, it's Ctrl+Escape [01:11] SlidingHorn, actually no haha. we talked about my OS and you suggested Xubuntu :) [01:12] Also, thanks! that worked! I'll probably install it tomorrow. D: [01:12] :D [01:13] Btw that is the first search link on google. You could use that next time. === jerry is now known as Fleetwood === k117 is now known as konrados === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:03] Hi all, i would like to expand the root Partition. In windows I already decreased a Partition, so the unallocated space is before the root Partition. How can I extend it? Tnx! Xubuntu 16.04.4 LTS [02:06] mitic_: https://www.howtogeek.com/114503/how-to-resize-your-ubuntu-partitions/ [02:07] mitic_: found by searching for "ubuntu resize partition" on google [02:07] every result on the first page answers your question [02:09] leftyfb, tnx, but i was not sure how to resize it if the free space is before the root partition. gn [02:12] o === josh is now known as Guest56540 === Guest56540 is now known as Prospero_1 [02:37] how do i turn off the color emoji [02:38] i dont like high-color graphics in a black and white document [02:38] in what application? [02:38] and what version of ubuntu? [02:39] 18.04, every application, its like the system font or something, i thought there'd be a setting somewhere [02:39] its in the terminals, in firefox, everywhere. [02:39] https://www.howtogeek.com/350029/how-to-uninstall-emoji-on-ubuntu/ [02:40] found on google by searching for "ubuntu 18.04 disable emoji" [02:41] i tried "ubuntu disable color emoji" and found nothing -- all the results are how to *enable* instead of *disable* for some reason, maybe the filter bubble [02:43] when you remove the color emoji via that method, it changes to some old font that is missing half the emoji, hmm. I'll figure out how to fix that, too [02:43] thanks leftyfb [02:43] when you uninstall the package? [02:45] leftyfb: yeah, whatever font replaces noto-color-emoji doesnt have the majority of recent emoji; i tried apt install fonts-noto but that didnt fix it, maybe i have to set that as the emoji font somewhere or something [02:45] I have read so many pages, I'm getting confused. I need to use a shell script to set 9 xsetwacom commands, either at bootup, or just before running Krita. I've seen examples of what the Shell Script should look like, but no idea where to put the script file. [02:46] Also, how, where, or when to call the shell script. [02:47] Draegon: try /etc/rc.local [02:47] wheni go to the characters thing, it says "not included in cantarell", i guess cantarell is the font set somewhere, cant find where though, it looks like 'ubuntu' is the font being used everywhere [02:47] Draegon: you know "krita" isn't supported here correct? [02:48] leftyfb: why would krita not be supported like any other app? [02:49] sorry about that, I googled it and saw on their page only an appimage for it. I incorrectly assumed it wasn't in the repos but it is [02:49] I have spoken in #Krita, here, and in #DIGImend to try and get my tablet working. With the greateful help of Two_Dogs, have it working, but each place tried to set the commands on login don't work. [02:49] Draegon: you create a file in ~/bin with some name you remember, myscripts.sh for example [02:51] Draegon: the first line of the file has the shabang thing and the lines below have all those commands you previously shared [02:51] OK. [02:51] Will that run automatically on bootup/login, or will I need to make a reference to it somewhere else? [02:52] Draegon shabang script linux https://git.io/vppiJ [02:52] Thanks. [02:52] Draegon: you will need to via file manager set the file as 'executable' for the local user, no getting fancy with sudo [02:53] ok, that's easier. [02:53] Draegon: and lastly you would add the script as an executable from your desktops start-up apps [02:54] Draegon: I would edit the .desktop file for krita, look at what command it's using to start krita, add that command to the end of your script. Run the script, verify it all works, then replace the command in the desktop file with the full path and name of your script [02:54] Draegon: since you previously ran the commands from terminal after going into session without sudo i would imagine it would just work [02:55] Draegon: that should make avail where ever those commands do to the whole session regardless of app opened [02:56] Two_Dogs: oh, the "commands" are just ENV's? [02:56] leftyfb: i guess they are sort of, but ran from some xsetsomething command line [02:57] leftyfb: i am not really all that smart about tablet tweaks [02:57] I understand the make executable part, not sure about the add script as executable from desktops start-up apps [02:58] Draegon: your desktop has a config area for apps you want started at login, typical name for them is 'start-up apps' [02:59] Draegon: in that config area(gui) you add the script by name as something to also start on login [02:59] Draegon: this is now desktop 101 [02:59] i have no idea what desktop you got Draegon [03:00] Krita is ran from a self contained .appimage file [03:00] Draegon: this has nothing to do with krita [03:01] Draegon: why are you using the appimage? It's part of the ubuntu repositories [03:01] Draegon: krita is an app, krita app needs some settings on a tablet to function correctly, those settings are loaded via a script you have configured to auto start via the start-up apps config of your desktop [03:02] Two_Dogs: he didn't configure to auto start [03:02] he doesn't know how [03:02] leftyfb: perhaps not yet, but we will get there [03:02] Sorry, I have dyslexia & autism, this is taking me time to figure out. [03:02] leftyfb: Krita in Ubuntu Software is older than the AppImage version [03:03] :/ [03:03] Draegon: focus then [03:05] Draegon: krita version issues are not part of my convo with you thus far, that is an install from some repo/ppa where krita version what ever you needed [03:17] with regards to bluetooth on 16.04, is there an alternative bluetooth manager? be it GUI or CLI tools [03:18] eraserpencil: blueman? [03:19] will try that out! thanks! [03:19] is the default one bluez or gnome bluetooth [03:25] Two_Dogs: I'm working through your instructions above 1 by 1, so far I have this, does this look right for what I need? [03:25] https://gist.github.com/CelticDraegon/c3a542f44b50cf85040ea697848730af [03:27] I cannot find a .desktop, start-up apps, either as a folder, or file. === fabricius1 is now known as fabricius [03:33] I do have a ~/.local/share ~/.config/ just cannot find any startup, bootup. The Desktop folder, ~/Desktop has no files in it. I am running Unity Desktop. === finalriposte is now known as riposte [03:59] Trying to connect to a smb share. nmblookup returns the correct address. pinging the IP works. pinging the hostname and nslookup don't. What might the problem be? [04:10]

??? === li is now known as Guest29173 [04:11] someone here [04:11] ? [04:11] Guest29173, change your nick [04:11] Guest29173, No (sorry couldn't help myself) - if you look there are 1000s of people here, if you have a support question please just ask it (ideally a single line, & be patient in waiting for a response) [04:12] Guest29173, theres always people here, and if you're patient they might answer whatever you ask [04:15] On a server, why is it advisable to have a user for each service? For eg, a user for postgresql, a user for irc bouncing, a user for next cloud etc etc [04:15] I can ping a LAN device by IP address but not by hostname. nmblookup {hostname} returns the device's IP. What's wrong? [04:17] Hey guys. I think that Ubuntu has incorrectly identified my GPU (or lack there of). Searching online with my specific laptop renders Intel HD Graphics 4400 but this is the output from the terminal: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TPMbRb8Cck/ [04:17] Any ideas? [04:18] The reason I'm even poking around with the drivers/hardware is that when I try to play certain games they crash immediately. [04:18] Even games that don't require remotely intensive graphics processing. [04:18] ? [04:18] you mean the external gpu? [04:19] kumool: GPU is probably the wrong term. I mean the integrated graphics. I don't see the word "Haskell" anywhere in the specifications of my laptop but it is the only thing that appears when I query the kernel. [04:19] whats your laptop [04:20] kumool: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/inspiron-15-7547-laptop/manuals [04:20] is it brand new? [04:20] kumool: There is a PDF on that site that lists all technical specifications. [04:20] kumool: No. [04:21] i don't wanna download anything [04:21] i see, it is intel hd graphics [04:21] kumool: That's fair. The exact term on the PDF is "Intel HD Graphics 4400" [04:22] running ubuntu xenial, where would i modify the command that starts Xorg? i've been looking at /etc/lightdm and nothing seems to stick [04:22] i can see that `/usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -dpi 144 :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch` is what's running but don't know where that's setup [04:22] kumool: But, as you can see from here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TPMbRb8Cck/ It states something along the lines of "haswell" [04:25] yeah.. this sounds more like a linux kernel problem than an ubuntu one [04:25] kumool: Darn. If I were to install the "correct" driver, does it automatically replace the old one? [04:25] apparently setpci is the program you want apparently, never used it before so i'll try googling or you can try too [04:26] it wont hurt [04:26] the drivers are just installed, if the kernel wants to load it it will [04:27] Draegon: yeap, put that file in ~/bin [04:27] kumool: Where do I look at which driver is loaded? [04:28] Draegon: yeap, put that file in ~/bin , via file manager set the execute enable/flag [04:29] baumy, startx is usually the one that starts Xorg [04:32] i am trying to pass '-ardelay 200 -arinterval 14' to Xorg and can't find where to do it [04:33] SaltyMcUrist, lsmod [04:34] on an older ubuntu i had that in ~/.xserverrc, doesn't seem to work anymore [04:35] think i found it here https://superuser.com/questions/935801/whenever-i-plug-in-another-keyboard-key-repeating-rate-is-reset-to-some-value [04:37] looks like ubuntu doesn't use startx, just lets lightdm start the X server [04:41] SaltyMcUrist, modinfo drm [04:42] woops not thath [04:43] /usr/sbin/lightdm --show-config shows lightdm reading my config but it isn't getting run =| [04:43] i'm becoming convinced ubuntu is just buggy [04:44] I will be leaving for another OS soon ;) [04:44] i wish i could, work mandates ubuntu or something not-linux, which would be even worse [04:45] i am leaving for something not linux [04:45] its not that bad [04:50] I can ping a LAN device by IP address but not by hostname. nmblookup {hostname} returns the device's IP correctly. What's wrong? [04:50] kumool: After doing some poking around I think that I'm wrong about which driver is loaded.. [04:50] kumool: Meaning it is correct, and the issue I'm having is due to something else. [04:51] kumool: giving up? [04:51] Two_Dogs, ? [04:51] kumool: on linux? [04:52] kumool: why? [04:52] oh absolutely, i'm only using it because i had an old disc to save this laptop [04:54] kumool: yet here you are [04:54] Two_Dogs: File done. Took a while as couldn't get execute to work, sorted now. File is created/edited/execute permission added. [04:55] Two_Dogs, mmm putting it shortly... i dislike its methodology? [04:55] Draegon: you are persistent :) [04:55] LOL, I want this to work. [04:55] kumool: again, then why are you here? [04:55] I'm like a rottweiler with a bone. [04:55] Draegon: one sec, brb [04:56] just an off the cuff comment, i do help when i can [04:56] Draegon: the mexicans call it 'ganas', kudos so, wait one sec [04:59] Two_Dogs: Ok. [05:00] Draegon: the script what did you call it? be specific and where did you put it? yeah, we are doing this from scratch :) [05:01] ganas :) [05:01] Two_Dogs: OK. mytablet.sc and it's location is ~/bin/ [05:02] Draegon: sc? [05:02] Trying to play The Binding of Isaac, crashes immediately. Running it from the command line reveals https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2KRrY7P3YR/ Any ideas? [05:02] fine [05:02] Oops, just a typo, it is actually mytablet.sh [05:03] Draegon: copy/paste & execute via terminal> ls ~/bin/*.sh | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here [05:03] Draegon: lets try to be specific and accurate, its linux, unforgiving' [05:04] !steam | steam problem more than an ubuntu problem it seems, SaltyMcUrist [05:04] steam problem more than an ubuntu problem it seems, SaltyMcUrist: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion. [05:04] for the lurkers, how do i check his file for executable flag? [05:05] via cli? [05:05] i dolphin [05:05] Two_Dogs, stat ? [05:05] guiverc: no idea, how? [05:06] he aint proved the thing exists yet [05:06] i want to see the thing first [05:06] (i haven't been watching; i just saw your last line - check file is executable - i use stat to read stats for file) stat wanted-file [05:07] guiverc: hes got a txt file, needs to execute as script(bash) [05:07] god i love linux :) [05:08] guiverc: this is all about making some tablet talk to krita with all the bells ans whistles [05:08] Draegon: ???? [05:09] Draegon: copy/paste & execute via terminal> ls ~/bin/*.sh | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here [05:09] sorry I don't understand... [05:09] guiverc: hes got a txt file that should be sh/bash executable [05:09] http://termbin.com/9jk5 and the location is /bin/ not ~/bin/ [05:10] Two_Dogs, so chmod (change file mods +x) [05:10] it seems like ubuntu simply does not read or respect /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [05:10] does anybody know why? [05:10] Draegon: why is that file on system side, was there a specific reason? [05:10] I can ping a LAN device by IP address but not by hostname. nmblookup {hostname} returns the device's IP correctly. What's wrong? [05:10] guiverc: thnks [05:11] Draegon: meaning i expected the file in your userspace [05:12] Draegon: if there was some wiki reason to run the script as root/system then ok [05:13] Draegon: you want as much as possible to not allow root/system to be involved [05:13] hey [05:13] Draegon: ? [05:14] Draegon: i dont know is fine [05:14] In the ~/ there is no /bin/ location. There is a .config I don't know if that helps? [05:14] Draegon: create folder ~/bin [05:15] Draegon: place file in ~/bin without involving 'sudo/root/su' [05:16] Draegon: the thing is you dont want the tablet talking root/system if possible, and you said you ran the commands from terminal without sudo/su , yes? [05:17] Draegon: the thing is you dont want the tablet talking root/system if possible, and you said you ran the commands from terminal without sudo/su , yes? [05:17] Draegon: thAT is a yes/no question [05:17] Done, file & folder created. Yes [05:18] Draegon: in ~/bin/ yes? [05:18] Yes [05:18] Draegon: copy/paste & execute via terminal> ls ~/bin/*.sh | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here [05:18] Execute Permissions granted [05:18] Draegon: yes [05:18] Draegon: you did not know linux would be this much fun/? [05:19] It's a LOT of fun. ;-) [05:19] http://termbin.com/o6t2 [05:20] Draegon: copy/paste & execute via terminal> cat ~/bin/mytablet.sh | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here [05:22] http://termbin.com/jush [05:22] Draegon: good [05:23] Do you want me to remove the one from /bin/ ? [05:23] Draegon: you could [05:26] Draegon: ok, via file-manager did you set the file in ~/bin/your-script as executable? [05:26] the right answer is 'yes' [05:26] Done [05:27] Yes [05:27] Draegon: good, [05:28] Draegon: what desktop? i am on https://git.io/vpp1B so things get confusing [05:29] I have a user account on my server that I use for outsiders to use it without sudo privileges. I have a sudo account and was wondering how I could view that password as I have forgotten it. changing it would mean having to change it b on all computers and media players that use it. [05:29] KDE Plasma <--me Draegon , and you are using what? [05:29] Unity Desktop, and Kernel is 4. something, [05:30] Draegon: unity has some start up app config [05:30] kernel 4.4.0-124-generic and amd 64-bit [05:30] i can google it [05:30] ok [05:30] Draegon: nevermind the kernel [05:31] b0t how to start-up app in unity https://git.io/vpp12 [05:31] Draegon: ^^ [05:32] checking link, 1 min [05:32] Draegon: my god it seems unity is a really horrible desktop [05:33] It is a bit chunky [05:33] chunky [05:33] yeah] [05:33] I've heard that 18.04 is supposed to have dropped Unity in favour of going back to Gnome. [05:34] Draegon: indeed [05:34] Draegon: dont make me learn unity [05:34] b0t how to start app in unity https://git.io/vpp1o [05:35] unity has been dropped from official ubuntu. no need to use it or learn it. [05:35] LOL. All I need is a temporary fix, as soon as I can afford to build my new computer, I'll try out Ubuntu 18.04 or if its' out by then, 18.04.1 [05:36] fix? sudo apt install xfce4 logout, select xfce session, login. [05:36] Draegon: the fix is 'your script needs to auto start via unity on login [05:36] Ok [05:37] Draegon: cfhowlett had a good thought, a real desktop [05:37] or lxde or gnome or plasma ... [05:38] cfhowlett: I have some programs already installed. Would I need to reinstall or ? to use the programs if I install another desktop? [05:38] Draegon: i am trying to help, i do want you to get over this, i am clueless to 'unity' though' [05:38] where in unity does one add to auto-start? [05:38] Draegon, my suggestion installs an alternate desktop environment only. all apps reamin [05:38] *remain* [05:38] I've never tried any other desktop other than the default Unity that came with Ubuntu. [05:39] Draegon: what cfhowlett said [05:39] OK, any preference to either of those you just mentioned ? [05:39] Draegon, you were'nt born knowing unity. easy enough to figure things out [05:39] Draegon: mate? [05:39] ok. [05:40] Draegon: dont forget, unity is not all the desktop out there [05:40] !desktop | Draegon [05:40] Draegon: A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), !LXDE (lubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors [05:41] cinnamon is really nice Draegon [05:41] Yeah. I'm look at google a min for the diff versions u mentioned [05:41] and it has 'start up aPPS' [05:43] the hardest thing about linux is getting set on a desktop, you have to get used to desktop, know it, like inside out, then you go from there [05:43] Is it possible to run multiple desktops ? [05:44] Draegon: indeed is [05:44] I like the Cinnamon, and XFCE looks nice [05:44] Draegon: worse case? see multiple apps in menu [05:44] Y not BOTH!? [05:44] Draegon: cool, get on cinnamon [05:44] Draegon, you can have multiple loaded/installed, but only a single DEsktop can be running at the same time (i have ubuntu, with xfce, mate installed - xfce running) - you can use apps of multiple DEs at the same time though [05:45] Draegon, bit of advice: install the DE NOT the entire *buntu-desktop [05:46] cfhowlett: How do I do that then, say for the moment for cinnamon? [05:46] Draegon: install 'cinnamon' the desktop, i am not sure what the meta package is in ubuntu, i use it in opensuse, a very nice desktop [05:47] Draegon: copy/paste & execute via terminal> sudo aptitude install -sy cinnamon | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here [05:47] Draegon: a simulation, i know what to expect in cinn deps wise [05:48] drop the sudo [05:48] Draegon: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude install -sy cinnamon | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here [05:48] Draegon: do last shown here [05:48] ok. [05:48] brb [05:49] Sorry, was checking out some booty desktop wallapers that were shown in Cinnamon desktop search, lol. [05:51] says not currently installed, aptitude, so just do the install of that & then do the last command again? [05:51] apt install -sy cinnamon should also fly [05:53] hallo [05:53] Ok, installed [05:54] errrr, not if you executed the ***simualation*** [05:54] i.e. install -s ... [05:54] Draegon: the point of the sausage making is to get you into a common known desktop [05:55] Draegon: like cinnamon [05:56] and for added bonus Draegon you got cfhowlett giving a 'hoot' [05:56] Draegon: this is the time to heed [05:56] OK, that's cool. [05:56] * cfhowlett things "whoot!" not "hoot!" [05:57] yeah, whoot [05:57] mis mistake [05:58] cfhowlett: he needs some script to run so his krita has the foo to play nice [05:58] Draegon: yoy best have the right krita [05:58] OK, but I understood his unity DE was unstable? [05:59] i dont know unit [05:59] unity [05:59] what so ever [05:59] I ran that previous line, sudo with -s instead of -sy so does that mean it's now installed? [05:59] that's where I entered the thread and suggested he install an alternate, functional D# [05:59] if he can do a auto-start of script then all is good [06:00] Draegon: why sudo? [06:00] Draegon, no. -s means simulated. in fact the first line of of output should tell you that [06:00] Draegon, line 1 https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p87fkrmgnB/ [06:00] Draegon: dont fucking 'sudo' unless you see it spelled out [06:00] ok. [06:01] Draegon: excuse me [06:01] sir, I need you to back away from the keyboard and take a breath ... [06:01] Draegon: your script is gonna run in userspace, sudo wont be playing [06:01] aye [06:01] 10-10 [06:02] cfhowlett: go! [06:03] Draegon, does your output show any errors? [06:03] Ok, I just scrolled back, that "Note:" is not in the output [06:04] I don't think so, gonna check [06:04] apt install -sy cinnamon | pastebinit [06:04] i prefer aptitude [06:04] its a more muscular apt [06:04] not installed by default. trying to keep it simple here [06:05] cfhowlett: cool [06:05] does apt resolve? [06:05] No errors that I can see. just about to run that next command [06:06] Draegon, and paste the url it returns! [06:06] i found aptitude resolving issue 'by mistake', i saw it working, i aint used anything else since in apt/deb [06:06] leftyfb, but you are correct, will not join again :) [06:06] no go [06:07] Draegon, details? [06:07] apt install -sy cinnamon | pastebinit [06:07] apt install -sy cinnamon | pastebinit [06:07] what error? [06:07] The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: [06:07] sudo apt install pastebinit [06:07] That is all it said [06:07] grr. OK, try it with nc [06:07] cfhowlett: let me, pls [06:07] go for it! [06:08] * cfhowlett goes into lurk mode [06:08] Can we please not recommend -y, even with -s? [06:08] Draegon: copy/paste & execute via terminal> aptitude install -sy cinnamon | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here [06:08] into 10-10 [06:09] ubuntu makes trouble shoot difficult [06:09] you want me to install aptitude, not currently installed? [06:09] Flannel: -sy is like a default 'wha does it take to do what ever' [06:10] you can of course be specific [06:10] Draegon: Replace that with apt instead of aptitude [06:10] with ppa i dont know how you guys do it on ubuntu, its difficult [06:11] Two_Dogs: yes, but you're running the risk of people starting to use -y once doing things for real, which is just playing with fire. [06:11] http://termbin.com/ahj9 [06:12] It also had a warning just before outputting the termbin URL, "WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts." [06:13] Flannel: i dont use sudo/su, i dont ask for it and i ask for a sim, there are the smart guys, they gewt to reboot and reinstall, worse case, and i dont make it the worse case, i am playing with a OG. thats fun too [06:14] they know stuff!! [06:14] Two_Dogs: Just please stop using it, thanks. [06:14] Flannel: using which process? [06:15] i want to be ok here [06:15] thnks [06:15] don't recommend -y as it may cause newer users to create more problems than they solve. [06:16] Draegon: I'm not sure why we were having you simulate that, but it looks like you're not going to run into any issues installing it. [06:16] cfhowlett: you need -y in the aptitude -s thing, you cant see the damm options [06:17] ah. OK. didn't know that as I use apt [06:17] without seeing the options in a trouble shoot, how do you know to resolve a aptitude issue? [06:18] i dont apt, its a script, odd aint it? [06:18] go forward and aptitude [06:19] Two_Dogs: Just use apt-get (or apt, if you're so inclined) instead, and problem solved, no need for -y. [06:19] xkuse the loudness [06:19] Flannel: i aint gonna do apt-get, i aptidude on deb [06:20] Two_Dogs: I'm happy for you. But most people don't have aptitude installed, so you're probably going to have issues with that. [06:21] i feel a certain cozynes about it [06:21] Draegon: Sorry, was there a specific concern about you installing cinnamon successfully? [06:21] Flannel: ubuntu dont aptitude by default? [06:22] Two_Dogs: Correct. Hasn't in a few years. [06:22] Flannel: i have creeds, got the ubuntu server doing dnsmasq for me since 2008? [06:22] Not sure, I just followed the lines, which were obviously simulation [06:23] Draegon: Alright. So, sounds like you're all set to do `sudo apt-get install cinnamon` [06:23] that should count for something, btw, thats 24/7 [06:23] yeah fucker, 24/7 doing the dnsmasq, ubuntu 32bit server [06:23] Two_Dogs: No one implied you don't know what you're talking about. But aptitude is going to get weird looks when commands don't work, and including -y in your commands is running a risk of people using it for real. [06:24] sorry [06:24] Two_Dogs: Also, please mind the language. [06:24] Flannel: ok [06:24] Flannel: aptitude was what i saw working the best with apt [06:25]