[01:42] <user|57924> having an issue with tar thru kde causing system lockup. Tried to run kbackup and also tried tar script via konsole. Both cause system to lock with data going to USB 1.5TB HD partition. I can run the same script from a console login and it completes.
[01:44] <user|57924> note that this is an almost complete system backup
[01:45] <user|57924> Kubuntu version 16.04 LTS is being used for OS
[05:06] <timmybee> Hi everyone
[05:07] <timmybee> Trying to remove the space above the firefox tabs. Ive tried creating a userChome.css and adding some settings in the there however this doesnt seem to work
[06:25] <onlyabyte> Hey guys, how do you find Kubuntu 18.04 LTS?
 @onlyabyte, What do you mean?
[06:25] <onlyabyte> I'm planning on using it but I have one question about KDE on it. Will it stay on 5.12 LTS but still get the other updates eg: 5.12.5 LTS etc.
[06:26] <onlyabyte> ie: bug fixes
[06:26] <onlyabyte> I'm in love with KDE so I want to use something stable where I can get high uptime :)
 @onlyabyte, I'm pretty sure it will update
[06:27] <onlyabyte> Debian is too old so Kubuntu LTS is the best candidate
 @onlyabyte, I mean, it's the same as Ubuntu, Gnome was just updated to 3.28.2
[06:27] <onlyabyte> Oh goodie!
 @onlyabyte, Debian has KDE Plasma 5.8 LTS
[06:27] <onlyabyte> I doubt Ubuntu 18.04 would get 3.30 though
 @onlyabyte, Yeah, that will be up for 18.10
[06:27] <onlyabyte> I'm sick of GNOME, ugh.
[06:28] <onlyabyte> Been using it for so long and I put KDE on my system just to test and boy oh boy, is it fast!
[06:28] <acheronuk> 5.12.5 is in our updates PPA for the impatient to get it, but is also currently in testing for updates via the main archive
 @onlyabyte, Yeah, Plasma has freaking improved
[06:28] <onlyabyte> I'm not very impatient. Just curious, will the LTS stay on LTS KDE?
[06:28] <onlyabyte> I prefer stability :)
 @onlyabyte, AFAIK yes, until the next LTS
[06:29] <onlyabyte> Yay!
[06:29] <acheronuk> onlyabyte: for archive or our updates ppa, yes
[06:29] <onlyabyte> 5.12 is already so good (right now on Fedora)
[06:29] <onlyabyte> Oh okay, so if I wanted updates, I would need your official PPA?
[06:29] <onlyabyte> Or is it unofficial (ie: not from Kubuntu)
[06:30] <acheronuk> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs
 @onlyabyte, IK there is the Kubuntu official ppa for backports
 @onlyabyte, Yeah, I think it's official
[06:31] <onlyabyte> That's awesome!
[06:31] <acheronuk> Kubuntu updates PPA = updates we intend to try to get into the archive eventually
[06:31] <onlyabyte> I cannot wait to switch over to Kubuntu LTS!
[06:31] <onlyabyte> I see...
[06:32] <acheronuk> Kubuntu backports PPA = backports of much new things we probably won't for 18.04
 @acheronuk, Here: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa
 @ccarguelo, Correct for the updates one
 @acheronuk, This one? … https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=bionic
 Ups, sent it filtered
 Sorry, yes. That is the 'updates' one
 Great, isn't that ppa aded by default on Kubuntu?
[06:36] <onlyabyte> acheronuk: How would you comment on the stability of Kubuntu 18.04? Would you say KDE and Ubuntu is no longer known as the "unstable" distro?
 @ccarguelo, No. It's officailly ours, and the packages are basically what we intend to ship as real archive updates, but we can't have PPAs enabled by default. Ubuntu policy. Which I do agree with.
[06:40] <onlyabyte> I'll be back, going to migrate to Kubuntu!
[07:58] <batteronizer> Hi, sometimes when I change brightness using the function keys on my laptop, the brightness changes accordingly but within a few moments reverts to what it was before my adjustment.
[07:59] <batteronizer> I use Kubuntu 18.04. And for my fellow countryme, that's the correct usage of the word "revert".
[07:59] <batteronizer> *countrymen
[08:18] <obert> but how to upgrade to kubuntu 18? lsb_release wasn't enough to checkk for a new version?
[08:47] <batteronizer> obert: what is your current version?
[08:48] <batteronizer> upgrade to 18.04 from 16.04 would be available after 18.04.1, around July
[08:48] <obert> batteronizer: 17
[08:49] <batteronizer> obert: 17 what?
[08:49] <obert> 17.94 I guess
[08:49] <obert> 04
[08:49] <obert> the lts one
[08:49] <batteronizer> What do you mean guess? Check
[08:49] <obert> how to check it then? I don't remember the command
[08:49] <batteronizer> Use google
[08:50] <obert> ...
[08:50] <obert> Ubuntu 17.10 \n \l
[08:52] <batteronizer> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes?_ga=2.185750953.1477541786.1526806216-1488121166.1526806216#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_17.10
[08:52] <obert> anyway an answer like 'use google' in a chat where people should be glad to talk it is a bit ridiculous
[08:53] <obert> thanks
[08:54] <batteronizer> obert: What's ridiculous is saying "I guess" when you want help and not putting effort to look for a simple command.
[08:58] <obert> batteronizer: it is easier to paste the right command without let people getting mad on find infos in the whole web
[08:59] <obert> especially if someone got a slow internet
[08:59] <batteronizer> obert: It's easier for someone helping you if you don't say things like "I guess"
[09:00] <onlyabyte> Hi all!
[09:00] <onlyabyte> I'm loving Kubuntu 18.04! :D
[09:00] <onlyabyte> Finally, I've found the right distro for me.
[09:01] <onlyabyte> Just wanted to say thank you to the people who contributed to this distribution. It's superb!
[09:20] <acheronuk> onlyabyte: great to hear :)
[09:27] <ktecho> Yeah, kubuntu is amazing :)
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:07] <gmozafarian> hi
[12:08] <diogenes_> hi
[12:57] <obert_> got kubuntu 18.04 thanks people
[20:47] <inspectorcluseau> ;;tlast
[21:23] <R13ose> I am getting this error when I test disc for defects on live usb: check finished: errors found in 2 files.  How do I fix this?
[21:34] <skomorokh> Upgraded 17.10->18.04, all worked out well except one thing: my favourites disappeared and when I add some back, log out and back in again... they're gone once more.
[21:35] <skomorokh> Is that a familiar situation to anyone? Any hints where I might look?
[21:45] <valorie> skomorokh:
[21:46] <valorie> you might have some permissions problems which means your favs are not being saved properly
[21:46] <valorie> perhaps from running a gui app as root
[21:50] <valorie> you might have to chmod $HOME to fix
[21:55] <skomorokh> valorie: Hm, it was just working on 17.10, pretty sure the upgrade wouldn't have changed the perms. Any idea which file holds the favs so I can check it?
[21:56] <valorie> it would be in ~/.local or ~/.config
[21:56] <skomorokh> But like... .config/k-button-thingy?
[21:57] <valorie> perms are just a few bits, so they do sometimes mess up because..... the world is imperfect
[21:57] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[21:57] <valorie> I don't know which one, but those are just text files
[21:57] <valorie> you can read 'em
[21:58] <skomorokh> valorie: Heh, there's rather a few to read through.
[21:58] <valorie> R13ose: I was a bit unclear on whether the problem was in your install, or on your USB
[21:58] <valorie> skomorokh: sure, but most are obviously not what you need
[21:58] <valorie> people in #kde might know more
[21:59] <R13ose> valorie: I am not sure what the defect checks but I am hoping is on my HDD.  The HDD can't get through the full bootup as it get stuck but unsure why.
[22:00] <valorie> R13ose: `sudo apt install -f`
[22:00] <valorie> where f=fix
[22:00] <valorie> should reinstall anything messed
[22:00] <R13ose> valorie: will that delete files?  I am using the try kubuntu on the live usb
[22:01] <valorie> oh
[22:01] <valorie> hmmm
[22:01] <valorie> so not an install
[22:01] <valorie> do you have any other computers to try that USB on?
[22:02] <valorie> I would hesitate to advise going ahead if you aren't even booting up on the live USB
[22:02] <R13ose> valorie: meaning?
[22:03] <R13ose> I have another computer
[22:03] <valorie> I would try it there and see what happens
[22:03] <valorie> I don't have the expertise to give you more advice I'm afraid
[22:04] <R13ose> I tried fsck but still problems
[22:06] <R13ose> valorie: I am using the live usb
[22:07] <valorie> R13ose: I would make a backup of that HDD right now
[22:07] <valorie> how old is it?
[22:07]  * valorie has lost 3 HDs or SSDs in the past few months
[22:07] <valorie> one literally right after I made a full backup
[22:08] <R13ose> valorie: I did make a backup
[22:08] <valorie> good
[22:08] <valorie> IMO it is time to order a replacement
[22:08] <valorie> I mean, there are programs that will lock out badblocks
[22:08] <valorie> but that just tides you over until the new one arrives IMO
[22:10] <R13ose> How can this be done if I get to kubuntu screen and the boot locks after awhile on that screen
[22:11] <valorie> I think bad blocks runs in the commandline
[22:12] <valorie> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Badblocks
[22:14] <R13ose> valorie: thanks, trying some of them
[22:14] <valorie> !info e2fsprogs
[22:15] <valorie> best of luck, R13ose
[22:15] <valorie> I know the budget doesn't always welcome dying drives
[22:17] <R13ose> Thanks
[22:27] <xponent> I am using a System 76 laptop which has just a trackpad with no left or right buttons; just left or right click on the trackpad itself.  There is no functionally for right click.
[22:28] <valorie> xponent: i'm using s sys76 as well - right click works fine for me
[22:28] <valorie> even using both works as middle-click
[22:29] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.12.5 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) powered by Linux 4.15.0-20-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3346-3389/3800 MHz, RAM: 31762/32119 MB, Storage: 279/1144 GB, 279 procs, 620.41h up
[22:29] <valorie> when you say "no functionality" what do you mean?
[22:32] <xponent> When I place the cursor on the wallpaper, right click on trackpad does not open a menu.
[22:33] <valorie> :(
[22:33] <valorie> works for me
[22:33] <valorie> did that work in popOS or whatever was installed when you got it?
[22:34] <valorie> I guess it would be pop or ubuntu
[22:34] <acheronuk> they quit
[22:36] <valorie> :(
[22:36] <valorie> I wonder why people do that
[22:36] <acheronuk> perhaps they had turned off the right click on desktop action? that is possible in 'mouse actions' but right click would stay functional everywhere else
[22:37]  * acheronuk shrugs
[22:37] <valorie> seems a bit crazy to do that, unless you have kids who mess with your laptop or so
[22:37] <valorie> cats
[22:37] <valorie> :-)
[22:38] <acheronuk> someone on here the other day had their toddler press the PC power button in the middle of a 17.10 to 18.04 upgrade!
[22:39] <valorie> ouch!