/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/05/20/#ubports.txt

ubptgbot<Sconio> https://github.com/KDE/falkon00:01
ubptgbot<amolith> I that what UT uses? For some reason I waas thinking of was Oxide or Oxygen or something like that00:03
ubptgbot<amolith> @Sconio, I that what UT uses? For some reason I was thinking of was Oxide or Oxygen or something like that00:03
ubptgbot<Sconio> @Stereofont, I'm just reporting information from this topic00:05
ubptgbot<Sconio> @amolith, At your interrogation00:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @amolith, It's oxide, the implementation is browser-app00:13
ubptgbot<amolith> @Sconio, [Edit] I that what UT uses? For some reason I was thinking it was Oxide or Oxygen or something like that00:13
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Both are likely to be replaced00:14
ubptgbot<amolith> @UniversalSuperBox, This? … https://github.com/ubports/oxide00:14
ubptgbot<amolith> @UniversalSuperBox, Why?00:15
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Because Oxide is old and buggy and likely has some security concerns00:15
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> QtWebEngine is more recent, has more maintainers, and it plays Netflix00:16
ubptgbot<amolith> @UniversalSuperBox, Lol. Any idea of when?00:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The plan is to release the new browser in beta before the next OS update00:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> As a click00:17
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It started as like 20 minutes of messing around while complaining about Oxide00:19
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Right before the Oxide build failed. -_-00:19
ubptgbot<amolith> @UniversalSuperBox, I look forward to it! In the meantime, would it do any good to ask for an option to "View page as desktop"?00:21
ubptgbot<Sconio> :)00:25
ubptgbot<Sconio> yes00:25
ubptgbot<trainailleur> Dalton, Marius, Jan, and Florian, thank you for another fine community update.  Couldn't see it live today, but grabbed it from youtube and just watched it.  Appreciate your time in keeping the community au fait.01:36
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hey, no problem. Thanks for the kind words01:37
ubptgbot<trainailleur> QQ: is there any documentation on call log or SMS/MMS import/export?  If not, I'll try to do some testing in next month or so and see what I can come up with.01:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There is not01:41
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Unless you can dig something up on the Ubuntu Wiki01:42
ubptgbot<trainailleur> Couldn't find it if it's there.  Expected this, so not disappointed.  Sometime in three or four weeks I'll have some phone testing time again, and I'll get a SIM for one of my test phones and see what shows up on the filesystem with some simple tests.01:43
ubptgbot<trainailleur> Heh.  Typed a lot more and then blew it away with a keyboard snafu.  Oh well.01:44
ubptgbot<trainailleur> Text messages seem like an anxiety point for many phone switchers, so seems useful if we can document the way.  Then folk with modern development skills can perhaps work up something to do things the easy way rather than the long chain of pipes a hack like me is apt to employ.  πŸ˜„01:46
ubptgbot<amolith> Is there a tool already in UT that I can use to encrypt/decrypt folders? I'm using a dual USB flash drive that I can use as storage to put files on my phone and my laptop but I want to make sure they're secured so no one else can see them if I lose it.01:52
ubptgbot<amolith> Or maybe a way to open a password-protected zip archive?01:55
ubptgbot<amolith> Well. UT doesn't have `zip`. Anyone know why? I deem that an essential program πŸ˜•02:10
ubptgbot<amolith> [Edit] Well. UT doesn't have `zip`. Anyone know why? I deem that an essential piece of software πŸ˜•02:10
ubptgbot<Sconio> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/aDIswbPF.webp02:21
ubptgbot<amolith> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0C0OJhl7.webp02:24
ubptgbot<Sconio> :)02:24
ubptgbot<popescu_sorin> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/CAB0SCwl.webp03:17
ubptgbotrichelmy was added by: richelmy05:07
ubptgbot<advocatux> @richelmy, Hi Richelmy, welcome. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started07:14
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @amolith, As I remember, it can be done from terminal for a particular folder. The protocols are there. Nothing approaching user friendly though and of course UT ought to excel in that functionality. One day πŸ˜ƒ07:18
ubptgbot<advocatux> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/x0Zxs0ms.mp407:24
ubptgbotStrangerer was added by: Strangerer08:08
ubptgbot<Strangerer> Hi08:08
ubptgbot<vanyasem> welcome back Aravind08:10
ubptgbot<vanyasem> i will remember you for the entirety of my life08:10
ubptgbotmartinmayer was added by: martinmayer08:29
ubptgbotКСша was added by: КСша08:43
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> Is there a telgram-app group to ask questions in or is here the best place?08:44
ubptgbot<advocatux> @King welcome back. @martinmayer & КСша welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed. There are languages focus groups too08:47
ubptgbot<Stereofont> I think there is still a group specifically about telegram development but for general questions about UT telegram, here is finey08:47
ubptgbot<advocatux> [Edit] @Strangerer welcome back. @martinmayer & КСша welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed. There are languages focus groups too08:47
ubptgbot<Stereofont> [Edit] I think there is still a group specifically about telegram development but for general questions about UT telegram, here is fine08:47
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> OK I installed latest telegram-app on xenial nexus 5 last thursday.  App appeared to work ok but since then no updates in any group.  Is there something else I need to do to keep messages flowing?08:50
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Did you restart after?08:50
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Installed through terminal?08:50
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> Installed though openstore using new openstore version showing only 16.04 apps08:52
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Odd. Should be fine08:52
ubptgbot<Stereofont> I suggest uninstall,  reinstall and then restart08:53
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> Installed version 2.5.3.2.  I'll try that.  thxs08:54
ubptgbot<martinmayer> @advocatux, thank you.08:54
ubptgbot<advocatux> πŸ‘08:56
ubptgbot<advocatux> @fourloop2002 @Stereofont I think an Ubuntu One account is still necessary for notifications, isn't it?09:00
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Yes. But issue was no updates?09:03
ubptgbot<Stereofont> I assumed meant no new messages at all09:03
ubptgbot<advocatux> I don't know, I need more coffee definitely BRB :)09:04
ubptgbot<advocatux> (but you're right)09:05
ubptgbot<Stereofont> I just had one. Already need more though 😎09:05
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> Thats correct.  I was able to receive messages for a few hours but since then nothing.  Now the wifi won't come up - ah the joys of testing on development builds 😞09:06
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @fourloop2002, Maybe connection is the problem. Have you been using hotspot or VPN?09:07
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Nexus 5 has issues09:07
ubptgbot<martinmayer> I am trying to flash Ubuntu Touch on my bq M10 FHD. My computer has Ubuntu 16.04. When the installer asked me for the password I gave the password of the M10. I got the error message that the installer could not connct to the device. So I retried with the password of the computer. First, it said that I need to reboot the M10, wh09:08
ubptgbotich I did. Then the installer said "Flashing images ..." but it doesn't do anything. I have still the old Ubuntu 15.04 OTA-10.1 on the M10 after several hours. Which device's password does it expect? Computer or M10? Any ideas how to make it work?09:08
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Computer09:08
ubptgbot<martinmayer> @Stereofont, Then my second try was the correct one. But it doesn't install. It just keeps saying "Flashing images..."09:09
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> @Stereofont, I'm using wifi which is working ok for browser, open-store, etc09:10
ubptgbot<advocatux> [Edit] @fourloop2002 @Stereofont I think an Ubuntu One account is still necessary for notifications, isn't it? … EDIT: we're using ubports push server now :)09:10
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Maybe flash with wipe would have been better. I did that with my Frieza09:13
ubptgbot<LeoKor> @martinmayer, My M10 had kept saying that for more than 2 or 3 hours. Installed succesfully.09:14
ubptgbot<martinmayer> I let it run over night. This has been 10 hours already.09:15
ubptgbot<LeoKor> @martinmayer, Me, too - but in the morning it was done. … Does yours still keep saying "Flashing images..."?09:19
ubptgbot<martinmayer> @LeoKor, Yes, it does. And the M10 still working normally with the old original Ubunto. I kind of expected it would go into some system mode while it is being flashed.09:21
ubptgbot<martinmayer> @LeoKor, [Edit] Yes, it does. And the M10 still working normally with the old original Ubuntu. I kind of expected it would go into some system mode while it is being flashed.09:22
ubptgbot<Stereofont> You need to set it to Developer Mode in Canonical09:24
ubptgbot<Stereofont> In Install group btw09:24
ubptgbot<martinmayer> @Stereofont, I set it in developer mode before I started.09:25
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Better place for these discussions09:25
ubptgbot<LeoKor> @martinmayer, Something went wrong/ My M10 went in system mode immediately after starting flashing. And at the end of flashing it rebooted into new OS.09:25
ubptgbot<LeoKor> @martinmayer, [Edit] Something went wrong. My M10 went in system mode immediately after starting flashing. And at the end of flashing it rebooted into new OS.09:26
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Exactly. Everything Automagically handled09:26
ubptgbot<martinmayer> @Stereofont, Do I understand you right that this is not the group for such questions? Sorry, if so.09:27
ubptgbotVishal Ekka was added by: budheswarbaghel09:35
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @martinmayer, Welcome & Install is for that09:40
ubptgbot<martinmayer> @Stereofont, Thank you09:41
ubptgbot<technicalbird> @vanyasem, Thank you madam!!09:53
ubptgbot<vanyasem> πŸ˜†09:54
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> @Stereofont Reinstalled telegram-app and came back to exactly the same spot before uninstalled 😞 No updates messages still back from last thursday.  If I open the Ubports supergroup the Icon in top lefthand corner is flashing with an exclaimation mark(!) displayed, so something is amiss.09:55
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> @technicalbird, ♂️10:03
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @fourloop2002, Seems like it is pointing to the wrong cache. One for @Flohack I think …10:13
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> OK I've raised a bug report #613.  thks10:17
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @fourloop2002, have you tried deleting cache, data and config? you can do it using UT Tweak Tool10:27
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I have the same problem and it works after clearing the data....however the issue always comes back after some time....it only happens on my Nexus 5 though, on my bq E5, it works fine10:27
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Javacookies, This is Xenial. Does UTtweaktool work?10:52
ubptgbot<Strangerer> Hi @Stereofont11:03
ubptgbot<Javacookies> oh okay, I butt in without really knowing the whole story LOL … nope it doesn't yet but you can still do it manually in the cache,local and config folders11:05
ubptgbotPPD~! was added by: PPD~!11:22
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @PPD~!, Hello PPD. Here is our page for UBports stuff … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome11:24
ubptgbotShuco was added by: Shuco11:36
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Hi Jose. For more about UBports read … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome11:37
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> interesting bug on N5....  steps to reproduce: … *turn on hot spot (it works) … *turn off hot spot (some time later) … *turn hot spot back on:  no more icon showing in notification tray at top, no more functionality, but nearby computer still sees SSID. … *will not work again until full phone reboot at which point everything w12:30
ubptgbotorks normal again when you turn it on12:30
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> @Javacookies, I looked in cache & local. Its not obvious which directory is for telegram app. Any clues?12:30
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> interesting bug on my N5. Not sure if anyone else has seen this (all performed via notifiation tray at top 'network') … *turn on hot spot (it works) … *use it for a while … *turn it off (everything looks good) … *turn it on again: no more hot spot icon in system tray at top, no more hot spot … *fully reboot phone … *it works (12:32
ubptgbotbut I believe I had to turn hot spot on and off again sometimes even at this step)12:32
ubptgbot<technicalbird> @wayneoutthere, Did you raised issue on GitHu12:33
ubptgbot<technicalbird> @wayneoutthere, [Edit] Did you raised issue on GitHub?12:33
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> @wayneoutthere Is this 16.04?12:34
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> no.12:34
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> must be last OTA let me check...12:35
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> 15.04 r28512:35
ubptgbot<fourloop2002> Obviously not cos 16.04 has no mobile data - doh12:35
ubptgbotBigDaddyLinux was added by: BigDaddyLinux12:38
ubptgbot<advocatux> @BigDaddyLinux, Hi Rocco, welcome. Here are the first steps to conquer the world https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome12:39
ubptgbot<amolith> @BigDaddyLinux, I have to welcome you as well, Rocco. Destination Linux is one of my favourite podcasts!12:59
ubptgbotStefan was added by: Stefan13:06
ubptgbot<Stefan> Hello!13:07
ubptgbot<Stefan> UBports for some reason won't see my Nexus 5. USB Debugging is on, OEM is unlocked, and I've installed the drivers UBports installer asked me to.13:08
ubptgbot<Stefan> Would anyone be able to help out?13:09
ubptgbot<amolith> @Stefan, Welcome, Stefan! Check out this link to get you started and we can try to help in the Welcome & Install room (there's a link on the webpage)! … ubports.com/telegram-welcome13:12
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Stefan, Did you switch from charging defualt to MTP default?13:13
ubptgbot<Stefan> Thanks for your response, Yes I have13:14
ubptgbot<Stereofont> But Amolith is right…13:16
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @Stefan, First step is make a username in Telegram πŸ˜ƒ13:17
ubptgbot<Strigi> Alright13:20
ubptgbot<Stereofont> In Settings13:20
ubptgbot<Strigi> Should be done, do I need to rejoin the group for it to change?13:22
ubptgbot<Strigi> Ah, nevermind.13:22
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Hasn't saved13:22
ubptgbot<Stereofont> It enables invites and ping13:23
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Otherwise you get lost in a sea of users13:23
ubptgbot<Stereofont> You have a headline name (Strigi) and then a contact name like xyz12313:25
ubptgbot<ronnietucker> Is there a way to stop the browser reloading the page every time you switch tabs? Really annoying on a site like (the new layout) Reddit.13:30
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @ronnietucker, Ronnie, Marius is publishing a new browser soon in test form, based on QtWebEngine13:31
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Current browser will die 🍹13:32
ubptgbot<ronnietucker> @Stereofont, And good ridance to it. I won't be sending any flowers.  πŸ˜„13:42
ubptgbot<Javacookies> will it still look like the same as the current browser? just a change of the internals (engine/renderer)?13:48
ubptgbot<Stereofont> No reason why it should have the same appearance. It can be designed ground up13:49
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @ronnietucker, +113:50
ubptgbot<alan_griffiths> @wayneoutthere, I've had intermittent problems with N5 hotspot, nothing as consistent as you describe. There's a bug where others have reported their experiences.13:52
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Its new face will be BrowserMcBrowserface πŸ˜‰13:52
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @alan_griffiths, Issues after VPN too. Seems a Nexus 5 thing13:53
ubptgbot<dohniks> @JBBgameich I'm trying to build uttt locally with clickable. Seems I need to add dependencies there as well in the clickable.json: libgsettings-qt-dev and libpam0g-dev14:08
ubptgbot<dohniks> Should those be added to the docker container as well then?14:08
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> The container should only contain packages that are also included in the phone images, otherwise the click will not run. If the non-dev packages of it are included in the image, they can be in the cliclkable.json or the docker image.14:10
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> It makes sense to keep the docker image size small, so putting some packages into the clickable.json is fine.14:11
ubptgbot<dohniks> ah, ok, so not a clickable issue, but a uttt issue?14:13
ubptgbot<dohniks> (assuming you want to build uttt with clickable)14:13
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Wait, what's utt?14:14
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> [Edit] Wait, what's uttt?14:14
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Bettervto move this to AppDev or OpenStore?14:14
ubptgbot<dohniks> oh, sorry: ubuntu-touch-tweak-tool14:14
ubptgbot<Stereofont> [Edit] Better to move this to AppDev or OpenStore?14:14
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> In general dependencies can be in the clickable.json, but you need to keep in mind they will not be included in the resulting click package.14:15
ubptgbot<dohniks> ok. understood. thanks!14:17
ubptgbot<dohniks> @Stereofont, you mean, go to other channel?14:17
ubptgbot<dohniks> ah, thx for PM :)14:17
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @dohniks, Exactly14:18
ubptgbot<ManyHatsOfLinux> I have a Nexus 5 that I have Flash UB ports on to, I'm currently learning python and looking for ways to contribute to this project. Is there any low hanging fruit I could go for?15:29
ubptgbot<ManyHatsOfLinux> I have fairly decent sysadmin skills. But I've just started to learn programming15:30
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Good first issues are tracked here: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22good+first+issue%22 … If you want to do something with python, contributing to clickable (the app building environment) or writing an app in python yourself might be interesting.15:33
ubptgbotkristiinaas was added by: kristiinaas16:20
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @kristiinaas, Hello Kristina. Here is a link for our introductory page about UBports … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome16:48
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Stereofont, looks like a spam profile tbh16:48
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Hmm the google link is rather disturbing16:49
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @Stereofont, i took the risk. it's a link to some telegram channel about traveling. nothing too bad16:50
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Okay16:52
ubptgbot<Stereofont> That isn't exactly an 'about me' though16:53
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ubptgbot<Jo_Led> @Stereofont, Looks like a spam bot tbh ;P19:10
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Removed19:15
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @alan_griffiths, hmm strange.  well at least there is 'something' amongst others19:29
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @wayneoutthere, Yeah, the Nexus 5's Wi-Fi chipset doesn't behave well19:31
krizoekhi. is the sdk only for c++/qt ?19:36
krizoeki had high hopes that it would be possible to use gtk19:37
krizoekand do pure c programming with it19:38
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> You can also use go/qt or python/qt, but GTK is currently not working very well in a mobile context.19:38
krizoeki heard some rumors about purism making something for gtk, wouldn't be any collaboration with them?19:38
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> We're yet to see if any of the mobile GTK controls can be used anywhere but PureOS19:39
krizoekok19:39
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> And currently they don't fully exist, so mobile GTK wont get into the Ubuntu Touch 16.04 release most likely.19:40
krizoeki'll just wait until it comes out then19:40
krizoekthe version that include the mobile gtk that is19:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> you  can use gtk+ if you want, but you will have to ship it in your package, and it doesn't have the nice designs and such the support QML does19:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> the primary supported way to write UT apps is QML/JS and C++ where necessary19:42
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Will scaling even work with GTK?19:42
krizoekcool19:42
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @JBBgameich, No one tried19:42
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hey, @JBBgameich. I wasn't following. Did you get the Gallery working?19:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> @JBBgameich, Well, scaling doesn't really "work" with Qt either. You have to use the "scalable units" bits. You could write the same code to handle GRID_UNITS_PX in C, and use that as the basis for your widget/text sizes19:43
krizoekanyone of you tried to use sdl??19:43
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> I think I already saw SDL games for Ubuntu Touch.19:44
krizoekcool19:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes, scummvm has already been made to work19:44
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @UniversalSuperBox, Not yet, I worked on different things today. Unfortunately I still don't have an Ubuntu Touch device and so I only test in `clickable --desktop`. Maybe I can fix it by just testing around with the apparmor stuff, new build coming soon :)19:45
ubptgbot<dohbee> when we get the new Mir, a lot more stuff will "just work" and shouldn't break whenever Mir changes ABI19:45
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @UniversalSuperBox, I installed the test click using Xenial OpenStore.  No advantage to an install via terminal?19:45
krizoeki just ordered a cheap nexus 5. looking forward to trying out ubports19:46
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> @krizoek, @krizoek how much did you find yours for?19:48
krizoek50$19:48
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> Dirt cheap19:48
krizoeka used one19:48
krizoekyeah19:48
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> I'm looking forward to get one in july/sept (holidays for me)19:50
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @Stereofont, I think I already found one mistake I made. I didn't notice the prebuild script of clickable is run outside the container.19:57
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @JBBgameich, πŸ‘20:04
ubptgbot<vanyasem> https://github.com/ubports/calculator-app20:09
ubptgbot<vanyasem> what license is that app20:09
ubptgbot<vanyasem> it has no LICENSE file and doesn't mention a license anywhere20:09
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It's in the original project: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app20:10
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/04ban0K3.null20:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> We should add a LICENSE file though20:10
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @JBBgameich, Now the contents should be really armhf :)20:10
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, GNU GPL v3. as i assumed. thankds20:10
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, [Edit] GNU GPL v3. as i assumed. thanks20:10
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, opened issue20:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> ❀️20:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I don't know what the "Commercial Subscription" thing means20:11
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, https://github.com/ubports/calculator-app/issues/1420:12
ubptgbot<vanyasem> i will assign you now 🌝20:12
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @JBBgameich, Crashed again20:13
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I wonder if GitHub e-mails me when you do that?20:13
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, that was a joke, why would i do that :P20:13
ubptgbot<vanyasem> but probably20:13
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @Stereofont, Is there a log in `.cache/upstart/unity8.log`?20:13
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, https://www.ubuntu.com/support probably this?20:13
ubptgbot<vanyasem> maybe they have an agreement to support their old UT software for some partners20:14
ubptgbot<vanyasem> or had an agreement before20:14
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> It might also be the "IP legal assurance" program20:14
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Since it's right below the license20:14
ubptgbot<vanyasem> it's GNU GPL, i'm taking that snippet i wanted anyways20:14
ubptgbot<vanyasem> they won't catch me anyways, i'm in Russia20:15
ubptgbot<Stereofont> @UniversalSuperBox, No mention of kirigami in the Unity8 log. I restarted it made no difference20:17
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> strange20:19
ubptgbot<Stereofont> I uninstalled the previous version manually then installed the latest20:19
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> The clickable container and real Ubuntu Touch on a device seem to be very different.20:20
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Wait, @Stereofont are you using Vivid?20:20
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Xenial20:20
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> (Photo, 420x630) https://irc.ubports.com/faHZnmoH.png In clickable it already works20:20
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> ah20:20
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I should stop being lazy and go grab a phone20:20
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Xenial on Frieza20:21
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Please notify me if someone found a useful log, for now I'm out of ideas unfortunately.20:22
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> If you type `dmesg` are there any apparmor denies?20:22
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> My app developing experience until now feels like basically just fighting apparmor πŸ˜†20:23
ubptgbot<Stereofont> In vivid it doesn't install. In Xenial it says it does20:24
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Doesn't open in portrait either btw. Just checked20:25
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @Stereofont Can you send me your unity8.log anyway (if it doesn't contain any private information like passwords of course)?20:28
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Sorry my mistake. I scrolled down πŸ˜ƒ20:30
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hmm, well the process is definitely stopping20:32
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> qmlscene normally doesn't crash except if apparmor does strange things20:34
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> `aa-exec-click -p org.kde.kirigamigallery_kirigamigallery_5.45.1 -- QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Material qmlscene contents/ui/ExampleApp.qml`20:34
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> `aa-exec: ERROR: profile 'org.kde.kirigamigallery_kirigamigallery_5.45.1' does not exist`20:34
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Probably just can't execute it directly20:34
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> does profile mean apparmor profile?20:34
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes20:35
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> The click contents currently look like this: `contents  include  lib  manifest.json  org.kde.kirigamigallery.apparmor  org.kde.kirigamigallery.desktop  share`20:36
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Isn't there supposed to be an apparmor.json? https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/appdev/index.html#security-and-app-isolation20:37
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> oh you are right ... I just copied this from another app20:37
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> New build in progress :)20:38
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @UniversalSuperBox, I first thought the name doesn't matter since it's referenced from manifest.json, but it seems to matter.20:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―20:39
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I'm just guessing20:39
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/FCH9TIVF.null20:40
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well that didn't do20:41
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Maybe I should remove the special characters from the maintainer name in manifest.json, just in case ...20:41
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Same20:42
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/5QU919C0.null20:43
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Nope20:43
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Sorry ... I'm out of ideas again now20:44
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Ditto no go20:44
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> One thing I should check: can I put env vars in the dektop file like this at all https://github.com/JBBgameich/kirigami/blob/ut/examples/gallerydata/org.kde.kirigamigallery.desktop#L7520:46
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> clickable doesn't really uses the desktop file, it just extracts the line and executes it in bash, so no realistic test20:47
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Hmm, I'm still not seeing an apparmor profile defined20:48
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> I guess the safest try is to launch the app from terminal with desktop_file_hint set20:49
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Wvdk2x0T.null20:50
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> This time with reworked desktop file20:50
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @UniversalSuperBox, Do I need to increase the version number so the profile is rebuilt?20:51
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I'm not getting it in the first place20:51
ubptgbot<Stereofont> That didn't work either20:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> How do I make qmlscene load the libraries from the custom location?20:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Modules, sorry20:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> `qmlscene β€”desktop_file_hint=org.kde.kirigamigallery_kirigamigallery_5.45.1 /opt/click.ubuntu.com/org.kde.kirigamigallery/current/contents/ui/ExampleApp.qml`20:52
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> Iirc, qmlscene -i <lib_apth>20:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Whoops20:52
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> `App.qml:23 plugin cannot be loaded for module "org.kde.kirigami": Cannot load library [...]libkirigamiplugin.so: (libKF5Kirigami2.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)`20:54
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> LD_LIBRARY_PATH then?20:54
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> the file is located in `./lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/org/kde/kirigami.2/libkirigamiplugin.so`20:55
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> `libQt5QuickTemplates2.so.5: symbol _ZN17QQmlDelegateModel6objectEib, version Qt_5_PRIVATE_API not defined in file libQt5Qml.so.5 with link time reference`20:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> uh20:56
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> uh20:56
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Oh .. Qt rebuild in Ubuntu Touch?20:57
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yeah, we're up to 5.9.5 now20:57
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Ooops  β€¦ * `/me` updates the version number20:58
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/FqydtLmM.null20:58
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Let's try again20:58
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Is QtQuickControls2 finally included into the images btw?20:59
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> I could remove it from the click package then20:59
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yes, because we have the Suru style now afaik20:59
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Nope20:59
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Still no go21:00
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I almost kinda got it running21:00
ubptgbot<VeryOriginalUsername> Do the "officially supported" devices like n5 and opo use halium or run UT natively(idk if that's a good word for that)?21:01
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/W6mmIstZ.null21:01
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @JBBgameich, without QQC2 included this time21:01
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @JBBgameich is that a qtcontrols app?21:01
ubptgbot<vanyasem> [Edit] @JBBgameich is that a qtquickcontrols app?21:01
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Yes, it's a controls gallery app21:01
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Using QQC221:01
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @VeryOriginalUsername, ubp-5.1. Halium was taken from it21:01
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @JBBgameich, Should i use ut toolkit or qtquickcontrols for a new app?21:01
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> QtQuickControls, but the UITK isn't going away so you're fine21:02
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There are still a few things that the UITK has that QtQuickControls don't21:02
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Which I just use Kirigami for :)21:02
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> if it worked21:02
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @UniversalSuperBox, Exactly why i want to stay with UITK21:02
ubptgbot<vanyasem> I don't like kirigami tbh21:02
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @UniversalSuperBox, good point πŸ˜†21:03
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Anyway, the latest build doesn't work as well?21:03
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Well, running it manually with qmlscene almost works21:03
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> But the launcher doesn't21:03
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> scaling broken again?21:03
ubptgbot<Stereofont> Blank here21:04
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> That's something at least, just a white screen?21:04
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Or some very small text in the top left cornet?21:04
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> [Edit] Or some very small text in the top left corner?21:04
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/9aVz1Jut.png21:04
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @UniversalSuperBox You have no QQC2 style set21:05
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> `export QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Material`21:05
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> And `export QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_MOBILE=true`21:05
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @JBBgameich, Shouldn't that go in a clickable21:06
ubptgbot<vanyasem> In the desktop file21:06
ubptgbot<vanyasem> In exec line21:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Oi70QiK3.png21:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yay!21:06
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @vanyasem, It is, Dalton isn't using the desktop file though :)21:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @vanyasem, Apparmor is the problem so far21:06
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @UniversalSuperBox, Same scaling problem as in Kaidan, but it "works"21:06
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Probably simply because Ubuntu Touch has no real scaling but everything depend on UITK to use the custom gridUnits solution21:07
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> [Edit] Probably simply because Ubuntu Touch has no real scaling but everything depends on UITK to use the custom gridUnits solution21:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> This swiping thing isn't working too great either21:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Because, well, gesture points21:07
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> back swiping or which one?21:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> From the side, for the menu21:07
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> You can also swipe up and then turn right :) This gesture was implemented for UT specifically by the Kirigami developers21:08
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> Here's QQC2 Suru at work instead :)21:09
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/C5pat4mv.png21:09
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/MGw659qs.png21:09
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/EuDa0LfU.png21:09
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Altogether, the command was `QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_MOBILE=true QT_QUICK_CONTROLS_STYLE=Suru LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/opt/click.ubuntu.com/org.kde.kirigamigallery/current/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH" qmlscene β€”desktop_file_hint=org.kde.kirigamigallery_kirigamigallery_5.45.1 /opt/click.ubuntu.com/org.kde.kirigamigallery/c21:09
ubptgboturrent/contents/ui/ExampleApp.qml -i /opt/click.ubuntu.com/org.kde.kirigamigallery/current/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf`21:09
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> Yeah, autoscaling doesn't work. Needs to be done manually, apparently21:09
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> AUGH21:09
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> I didn't expect that21:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2zxTtyNr7G/21:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> there.21:10
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @sverzegnassi, Cool!21:10
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @sverzegnassi, How did you do the scaling part?21:10
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> I saw there is a GridUnit type implemented in suru, but how do I use it to scale the whole QQC2 stuff?21:11
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> @JBBgameich, ```qputenv("QT_SCALE_FACTOR", "2");```21:11
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Is that device independent?21:11
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @sverzegnassi, @UniversalSuperBox Dalton, your command seems to get even longer πŸ˜‚21:12
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> Lol21:12
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Any idea why it won't make him an apparmor profile, though, @sverzegnassi?21:12
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @sverzegnassi, Wow that looks awesome21:13
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> @UniversalSuperBox, No clue yet. I'm running my app from cmd as well. I'm going to give it a look tomorrow21:13
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Ah, okay. #BlameBrian then. :P21:14
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> @UniversalSuperBox Did the version that didn't include QQC2 work?21:15
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> "work"21:15
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> The code is here if anyone wants to work on that further: https://github.com/JBBgameich/kirigami/tree/ut/examples/gallerydata … I'm going to sleep now.21:19
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/2ZphqMvx.png I'm not Dalton, but seems so21:21
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> Cool. I wonder what the two floating buttons are trying to do though πŸ˜‚21:22
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> They seem to do scaling in their own, and are now scaled twice21:22
ubptgbot<JBBgameich> At least twice21:22
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> Correct! I've set scale ratio = 221:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Yeah21:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox the "Commercial Subscription" thing you see on Launchpad projects is https://launchpad.net/+tour/join-launchpad#commercial21:45
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @dohbee, thank you21:45
ubptgbot<dohbee> and all the projects owned by canonical, have such features enabled21:46
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> Since we're here I drop a few screenshots of the OpenStore mockup too...21:49
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/370uQ4PT.png21:49
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/sHL5MUD3.png21:49
ubptgbot<sverzegnassi> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/ksZvayDM.png21:49
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/b2EbWPss.mp421:50
ubptgbot<amolith> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/8nwsrF95.mp421:51
ubptgbot<ixavier> Wooow! Superb work. I'm already imagine the time when the top bar will have transparency *.*21:57
ubptgbot<vanyasem> where does UT keep app data? i have set a setting in my app, and i would like to reset it. but reinstalling and deleting the folder in ~/.config made no difference22:44
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> `.cache` and `.config`22:44
ubptgbot<vanyasem> oh nvm that's a bug in my app22:45
ubptgbot<Flohack> lol22:45
ubptgbot<vanyasem> well you never know who to blame22:45
ubptgbot<vanyasem> i will just #BlameDalton22:45
ubptgbot<amolith> @vanyasem, There actually four other messages with that tag in it. We need to make it a thing πŸ˜‰22:53
ubptgbot<amolith> @vanyasem, [Edit] There actually three other messages with that tag in it. We need to make it a thing πŸ˜‰22:53
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There is also #BlameMarius22:53
ubptgbot<cibersheep> @vanyasem, You can delete cache app from UT Tweak tool … https://open-store.io/app/ut-tweak-tool.sverzegnassi … Use with care;)22:54
ubptgbot<cibersheep> @vanyasem, [Edit] You can delete cache app from UT Tweak tool … https://open-store.io/app/ut-tweak-tool.sverzegnassi … Use it with care ;)22:54
ubptgbot<vanyasem> @cibersheep, i figured it out, i had a bug in my app22:54
ubptgbot<amolith> @UniversalSuperBox, There are more for blaming Marius than there are for you. Looks like it isn't your fault lol πŸ˜‰22:54
ubptgbot<cibersheep> @vanyasem, Oh, ok :)22:54
ubptgbot<dohbee> @UniversalSuperBox, and `.local/share/`23:07
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