[00:01] https://github.com/KDE/falkon [00:03] I that what UT uses? For some reason I waas thinking of was Oxide or Oxygen or something like that [00:03] @Sconio, I that what UT uses? For some reason I was thinking of was Oxide or Oxygen or something like that [00:05] @Stereofont, I'm just reporting information from this topic [00:06] @amolith, At your interrogation [00:13] @amolith, It's oxide, the implementation is browser-app [00:13] @Sconio, [Edit] I that what UT uses? For some reason I was thinking it was Oxide or Oxygen or something like that [00:14] Both are likely to be replaced [00:14] @UniversalSuperBox, This? … https://github.com/ubports/oxide [00:15] @UniversalSuperBox, Why? [00:15] Because Oxide is old and buggy and likely has some security concerns [00:16] QtWebEngine is more recent, has more maintainers, and it plays Netflix [00:17] @UniversalSuperBox, Lol. Any idea of when? [00:17] The plan is to release the new browser in beta before the next OS update [00:17] As a click [00:19] It started as like 20 minutes of messing around while complaining about Oxide [00:19] Right before the Oxide build failed. -_- [00:21] @UniversalSuperBox, I look forward to it! In the meantime, would it do any good to ask for an option to "View page as desktop"? [00:25] :) [00:25] yes [01:36] Dalton, Marius, Jan, and Florian, thank you for another fine community update. Couldn't see it live today, but grabbed it from youtube and just watched it. Appreciate your time in keeping the community au fait. [01:37] Hey, no problem. Thanks for the kind words [01:40] QQ: is there any documentation on call log or SMS/MMS import/export? If not, I'll try to do some testing in next month or so and see what I can come up with. [01:41] There is not [01:42] Unless you can dig something up on the Ubuntu Wiki [01:43] Couldn't find it if it's there. Expected this, so not disappointed. Sometime in three or four weeks I'll have some phone testing time again, and I'll get a SIM for one of my test phones and see what shows up on the filesystem with some simple tests. [01:44] Heh. Typed a lot more and then blew it away with a keyboard snafu. Oh well. [01:46] Text messages seem like an anxiety point for many phone switchers, so seems useful if we can document the way. Then folk with modern development skills can perhaps work up something to do things the easy way rather than the long chain of pipes a hack like me is apt to employ. 😄 [01:52] Is there a tool already in UT that I can use to encrypt/decrypt folders? I'm using a dual USB flash drive that I can use as storage to put files on my phone and my laptop but I want to make sure they're secured so no one else can see them if I lose it. [01:55] Or maybe a way to open a password-protected zip archive? [02:10] Well. UT doesn't have `zip`. Anyone know why? I deem that an essential program 😕 [02:10] [Edit] Well. UT doesn't have `zip`. Anyone know why? I deem that an essential piece of software 😕 [02:21] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/aDIswbPF.webp [02:24] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0C0OJhl7.webp [02:24] :) [03:17] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/CAB0SCwl.webp [05:07] richelmy was added by: richelmy [07:14] @richelmy, Hi Richelmy, welcome. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started [07:18] @amolith, As I remember, it can be done from terminal for a particular folder. The protocols are there. Nothing approaching user friendly though and of course UT ought to excel in that functionality. One day 😃 [07:24] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/x0Zxs0ms.mp4 [08:08] Strangerer was added by: Strangerer [08:08] Hi [08:10] welcome back Aravind [08:10] i will remember you for the entirety of my life [08:29] martinmayer was added by: martinmayer [08:43] Кеша was added by: Кеша [08:44] Is there a telgram-app group to ask questions in or is here the best place? [08:47] @King welcome back. @martinmayer & Кеша welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed. There are languages focus groups too [08:47] I think there is still a group specifically about telegram development but for general questions about UT telegram, here is finey [08:47] [Edit] @Strangerer welcome back. @martinmayer & Кеша welcome! Take a look to https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you up to speed. There are languages focus groups too [08:47] [Edit] I think there is still a group specifically about telegram development but for general questions about UT telegram, here is fine [08:50] OK I installed latest telegram-app on xenial nexus 5 last thursday. App appeared to work ok but since then no updates in any group. Is there something else I need to do to keep messages flowing? [08:50] Did you restart after? [08:50] Installed through terminal? [08:52] Installed though openstore using new openstore version showing only 16.04 apps [08:52] Odd. Should be fine [08:53] I suggest uninstall, reinstall and then restart [08:54] Installed version 2.5.3.2. I'll try that. thxs [08:54] @advocatux, thank you. [08:56] 👍 [09:00] @fourloop2002 @Stereofont I think an Ubuntu One account is still necessary for notifications, isn't it? [09:03] Yes. But issue was no updates? [09:03] I assumed meant no new messages at all [09:04] I don't know, I need more coffee definitely BRB :) [09:05] (but you're right) [09:05] I just had one. Already need more though 😎 [09:06] Thats correct. I was able to receive messages for a few hours but since then nothing. Now the wifi won't come up - ah the joys of testing on development builds 😞 [09:07] @fourloop2002, Maybe connection is the problem. Have you been using hotspot or VPN? [09:07] Nexus 5 has issues [09:08] I am trying to flash Ubuntu Touch on my bq M10 FHD. My computer has Ubuntu 16.04. When the installer asked me for the password I gave the password of the M10. I got the error message that the installer could not connct to the device. So I retried with the password of the computer. First, it said that I need to reboot the M10, wh [09:08] ich I did. Then the installer said "Flashing images ..." but it doesn't do anything. I have still the old Ubuntu 15.04 OTA-10.1 on the M10 after several hours. Which device's password does it expect? Computer or M10? Any ideas how to make it work? [09:08] Computer [09:09] @Stereofont, Then my second try was the correct one. But it doesn't install. It just keeps saying "Flashing images..." [09:10] @Stereofont, I'm using wifi which is working ok for browser, open-store, etc [09:10] [Edit] @fourloop2002 @Stereofont I think an Ubuntu One account is still necessary for notifications, isn't it? … EDIT: we're using ubports push server now :) [09:13] Maybe flash with wipe would have been better. I did that with my Frieza [09:14] @martinmayer, My M10 had kept saying that for more than 2 or 3 hours. Installed succesfully. [09:15] I let it run over night. This has been 10 hours already. [09:19] @martinmayer, Me, too - but in the morning it was done. … Does yours still keep saying "Flashing images..."? [09:21] @LeoKor, Yes, it does. And the M10 still working normally with the old original Ubunto. I kind of expected it would go into some system mode while it is being flashed. [09:22] @LeoKor, [Edit] Yes, it does. And the M10 still working normally with the old original Ubuntu. I kind of expected it would go into some system mode while it is being flashed. [09:24] You need to set it to Developer Mode in Canonical [09:24] In Install group btw [09:25] @Stereofont, I set it in developer mode before I started. [09:25] Better place for these discussions [09:25] @martinmayer, Something went wrong/ My M10 went in system mode immediately after starting flashing. And at the end of flashing it rebooted into new OS. [09:26] @martinmayer, [Edit] Something went wrong. My M10 went in system mode immediately after starting flashing. And at the end of flashing it rebooted into new OS. [09:26] Exactly. Everything Automagically handled [09:27] @Stereofont, Do I understand you right that this is not the group for such questions? Sorry, if so. [09:35] Vishal Ekka was added by: budheswarbaghel [09:40] @martinmayer, Welcome & Install is for that [09:41] @Stereofont, Thank you [09:53] @vanyasem, Thank you madam!! [09:54] 😆 [09:55] @Stereofont Reinstalled telegram-app and came back to exactly the same spot before uninstalled 😞 No updates messages still back from last thursday. If I open the Ubports supergroup the Icon in top lefthand corner is flashing with an exclaimation mark(!) displayed, so something is amiss. [10:03] @technicalbird, ♂️ [10:13] @fourloop2002, Seems like it is pointing to the wrong cache. One for @Flohack I think … [10:17] OK I've raised a bug report #613. thks [10:27] @fourloop2002, have you tried deleting cache, data and config? you can do it using UT Tweak Tool [10:27] I have the same problem and it works after clearing the data....however the issue always comes back after some time....it only happens on my Nexus 5 though, on my bq E5, it works fine [10:52] @Javacookies, This is Xenial. Does UTtweaktool work? [11:03] Hi @Stereofont [11:05] oh okay, I butt in without really knowing the whole story LOL … nope it doesn't yet but you can still do it manually in the cache,local and config folders [11:22] PPD~! was added by: PPD~! [11:24] @PPD~!, Hello PPD. Here is our page for UBports stuff … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [11:36] Shuco was added by: Shuco [11:37] Hi Jose. For more about UBports read … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [12:30] interesting bug on N5.... steps to reproduce: … *turn on hot spot (it works) … *turn off hot spot (some time later) … *turn hot spot back on: no more icon showing in notification tray at top, no more functionality, but nearby computer still sees SSID. … *will not work again until full phone reboot at which point everything w [12:30] orks normal again when you turn it on [12:30] @Javacookies, I looked in cache & local. Its not obvious which directory is for telegram app. Any clues? [12:32] interesting bug on my N5. Not sure if anyone else has seen this (all performed via notifiation tray at top 'network') … *turn on hot spot (it works) … *use it for a while … *turn it off (everything looks good) … *turn it on again: no more hot spot icon in system tray at top, no more hot spot … *fully reboot phone … *it works ( [12:32] but I believe I had to turn hot spot on and off again sometimes even at this step) [12:33] @wayneoutthere, Did you raised issue on GitHu [12:33] @wayneoutthere, [Edit] Did you raised issue on GitHub? [12:34] @wayneoutthere Is this 16.04? [12:34] no. [12:35] must be last OTA let me check... [12:35] 15.04 r285 [12:35] Obviously not cos 16.04 has no mobile data - doh [12:38] BigDaddyLinux was added by: BigDaddyLinux [12:39] @BigDaddyLinux, Hi Rocco, welcome. Here are the first steps to conquer the world https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [12:59] @BigDaddyLinux, I have to welcome you as well, Rocco. Destination Linux is one of my favourite podcasts! [13:06] Stefan was added by: Stefan [13:07] Hello! [13:08] UBports for some reason won't see my Nexus 5. USB Debugging is on, OEM is unlocked, and I've installed the drivers UBports installer asked me to. [13:09] Would anyone be able to help out? [13:12] @Stefan, Welcome, Stefan! Check out this link to get you started and we can try to help in the Welcome & Install room (there's a link on the webpage)! … ubports.com/telegram-welcome [13:13] @Stefan, Did you switch from charging defualt to MTP default? [13:14] Thanks for your response, Yes I have [13:16] But Amolith is right… [13:17] @Stefan, First step is make a username in Telegram 😃 [13:20] Alright [13:20] In Settings [13:22] Should be done, do I need to rejoin the group for it to change? [13:22] Ah, nevermind. [13:22] Hasn't saved [13:23] It enables invites and ping [13:23] Otherwise you get lost in a sea of users [13:25] You have a headline name (Strigi) and then a contact name like xyz123 [13:30] Is there a way to stop the browser reloading the page every time you switch tabs? Really annoying on a site like (the new layout) Reddit. [13:31] @ronnietucker, Ronnie, Marius is publishing a new browser soon in test form, based on QtWebEngine [13:32] Current browser will die 🍹 [13:42] @Stereofont, And good ridance to it. I won't be sending any flowers. 😄 [13:48] will it still look like the same as the current browser? just a change of the internals (engine/renderer)? [13:49] No reason why it should have the same appearance. It can be designed ground up [13:50] @ronnietucker, +1 [13:52] @wayneoutthere, I've had intermittent problems with N5 hotspot, nothing as consistent as you describe. There's a bug where others have reported their experiences. [13:52] Its new face will be BrowserMcBrowserface 😉 [13:53] @alan_griffiths, Issues after VPN too. Seems a Nexus 5 thing [14:08] @JBBgameich I'm trying to build uttt locally with clickable. Seems I need to add dependencies there as well in the clickable.json: libgsettings-qt-dev and libpam0g-dev [14:08] Should those be added to the docker container as well then? [14:10] The container should only contain packages that are also included in the phone images, otherwise the click will not run. If the non-dev packages of it are included in the image, they can be in the cliclkable.json or the docker image. [14:11] It makes sense to keep the docker image size small, so putting some packages into the clickable.json is fine. [14:13] ah, ok, so not a clickable issue, but a uttt issue? [14:13] (assuming you want to build uttt with clickable) [14:14] Wait, what's utt? [14:14] [Edit] Wait, what's uttt? [14:14] Bettervto move this to AppDev or OpenStore? [14:14] oh, sorry: ubuntu-touch-tweak-tool [14:14] [Edit] Better to move this to AppDev or OpenStore? [14:15] In general dependencies can be in the clickable.json, but you need to keep in mind they will not be included in the resulting click package. [14:17] ok. understood. thanks! [14:17] @Stereofont, you mean, go to other channel? [14:17] ah, thx for PM :) [14:18] @dohniks, Exactly [15:29] I have a Nexus 5 that I have Flash UB ports on to, I'm currently learning python and looking for ways to contribute to this project. Is there any low hanging fruit I could go for? [15:30] I have fairly decent sysadmin skills. But I've just started to learn programming [15:33] Good first issues are tracked here: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3A%22good+first+issue%22 … If you want to do something with python, contributing to clickable (the app building environment) or writing an app in python yourself might be interesting. [16:20] kristiinaas was added by: kristiinaas [16:48] @kristiinaas, Hello Kristina. Here is a link for our introductory page about UBports … https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [16:48] @Stereofont, looks like a spam profile tbh [16:49] Hmm the google link is rather disturbing [16:50] @Stereofont, i took the risk. it's a link to some telegram channel about traveling. nothing too bad [16:52] Okay [16:53] That isn't exactly an 'about me' though === grumblr is now known as grumble [19:10] @Stereofont, Looks like a spam bot tbh ;P [19:15] Removed [19:29] @alan_griffiths, hmm strange. well at least there is 'something' amongst others [19:31] @wayneoutthere, Yeah, the Nexus 5's Wi-Fi chipset doesn't behave well [19:36] hi. is the sdk only for c++/qt ? [19:37] i had high hopes that it would be possible to use gtk [19:38] and do pure c programming with it [19:38] You can also use go/qt or python/qt, but GTK is currently not working very well in a mobile context. [19:38] i heard some rumors about purism making something for gtk, wouldn't be any collaboration with them? [19:39] We're yet to see if any of the mobile GTK controls can be used anywhere but PureOS [19:39] ok [19:40] And currently they don't fully exist, so mobile GTK wont get into the Ubuntu Touch 16.04 release most likely. [19:40] i'll just wait until it comes out then [19:41] the version that include the mobile gtk that is [19:41] you can use gtk+ if you want, but you will have to ship it in your package, and it doesn't have the nice designs and such the support QML does [19:42] the primary supported way to write UT apps is QML/JS and C++ where necessary [19:42] Will scaling even work with GTK? [19:42] cool [19:42] @JBBgameich, No one tried [19:42] Hey, @JBBgameich. I wasn't following. Did you get the Gallery working? [19:43] @JBBgameich, Well, scaling doesn't really "work" with Qt either. You have to use the "scalable units" bits. You could write the same code to handle GRID_UNITS_PX in C, and use that as the basis for your widget/text sizes [19:43] anyone of you tried to use sdl?? [19:44] I think I already saw SDL games for Ubuntu Touch. [19:44] cool [19:44] yes, scummvm has already been made to work [19:45] @UniversalSuperBox, Not yet, I worked on different things today. Unfortunately I still don't have an Ubuntu Touch device and so I only test in `clickable --desktop`. Maybe I can fix it by just testing around with the apparmor stuff, new build coming soon :) [19:45] when we get the new Mir, a lot more stuff will "just work" and shouldn't break whenever Mir changes ABI [19:45] @UniversalSuperBox, I installed the test click using Xenial OpenStore. No advantage to an install via terminal? [19:46] i just ordered a cheap nexus 5. looking forward to trying out ubports [19:48] @krizoek, @krizoek how much did you find yours for? [19:48] 50$ [19:48] Dirt cheap [19:48] a used one [19:48] yeah [19:50] I'm looking forward to get one in july/sept (holidays for me) [19:57] @Stereofont, I think I already found one mistake I made. I didn't notice the prebuild script of clickable is run outside the container. [20:04] @JBBgameich, 👍 [20:09] https://github.com/ubports/calculator-app [20:09]