[00:00] <adam7> check https://www.reddit.com/r/TopMindsOfReddit/comments/8du0vn/welcome_to_the_matrix/
[00:00] <SlidingHorn> adam7: what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[00:09] <sarcastico> back - off - 1day 43m e 39s
[00:10] <CIU> hello
[00:13] <i00nsu> hi all, is possible to install xinit without installing a bounch of gpu I don't use? Or I need to install them and I can remove them later without removing xinit ?
[00:15] <tomreyn> i00nsu: installing xinit should work independant of whether specific hardware is installed or not.
[00:16] <Regen> Anyone having problems playing youtube videos (chrome AND firefox) after upgrading to 18.04?
[00:17] <i00nsu> tomreyn: I am in minimal basic server mode, I do "apt install xinit" and there is a lot of drivers and stuff that is not needed as I already had installed xserver-xorg-mydrive
[00:18] <tomreyn> !info xserver-xorg-mydrive
[00:18] <i00nsu> tomreyn: nouveau ( what difference make for the case ? )
[00:19] <tomreyn> i00nsu: dpedendencies will need to be resolved during package installation, if that's what you mean. i do not know what "xserver-xorg-mydrive" is, though
[00:19] <i00nsu> I need xinit .. I don't need radean etc..
[00:20] <sarcastico> Away - off
[00:20] <tomreyn> you can install with --no-install-recommends
[00:20] <tomreyn> sarcastico: please disable your away signalling script on this channel
[00:22] <i00nsu> tomreyn: Top! xx
[00:35] <jusss> where I can get the latest iso image?
[00:35] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: if I am to set up 18.04 in 4 partitions with sepparate home, boot and swap, back up wise, would it be unnecessary overkill to mirror everything and just mirror home and boot partitions instead?
[00:35] <jusss> is there like sid version of debian in ubuntu?
[00:37] <SlidingHorn> jusss: there is development on the 18.10 version - head to #ubuntu+1 for more info on that
[00:37] <jusss> SlidingHorn: ok
[00:38] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner: not sure what you mean by mirroring
[00:41] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: bfr, my approach was to have an install in one partition (not counting swap), the backup was another partition that was an exact copy of the install partition.  I am wondering how to do this better.
[00:42] <tomreyn> Regen: running "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade && snap refresh" may fix it already.
[00:43] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner: personally, I wouldn't keep the backup on the same device, but that's just me
[00:43] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: in other words, you feel I am overdoing it?
[00:44] <tomreyn> RoadRunner: that's a copy, not a backup. use duplicity (GUI dejadup), boxbackup or restic to do remote backups, and always retain the latest full and the latest incremental backups for a couple days.
[00:49] <RoadRunner> tomreyn: just a backup of data or settings will not help me if my setup becomes unbootable
[00:49] <[Kid]> anyone running multipath ? i get all my paths with a multipath -ll, but i cant mount it. says it is busy, but it isn't mounted based on showing mounts.
[00:56] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: if the formated capacity of my drive is 74GB and I want to keep half of it for various backups, what partition sizes and mount points would you recommend for home, boot, swap and the rest?
[00:59] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner: in terms of swap, if you're only running ubuntu bionic, you don't need it - it uses a swapfile instead.  I have 20GB set to / and the rest of my hdd allocated to /home/ just kinda depeds on what you want
[01:02] <laptop> hello
[01:02] <laptop> quick question, i have windows on one partition and ubuntu on the next, if windows if compromised can they get to ubuntu
[01:05] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: I am likely to only use xubuntu 18.04 (or newer) on this box.  It was my understanding that a sep swap partition may speed up operations of os, this is not so anymore?
[01:12] <laptop> is ubuntu 18.04 faster than 16.04? Also I have kernel 4.13 is that a problem if it says everthing is uptodate
[01:12] <laptop> i know the mitigations for spectre are in 4.15
[01:15] <crimson_king> laptop, a competent opponent will find many ways to get to you, that depends on your threat model. But I've never heard of any malicious software that would simply break out of Windows into another operating system.
[01:15] <laptop> i see thank you
[01:16] <laptop> also would you recommend updating to 18.04 in terms of speed reliabilty and performane
[01:16] <laptop> I have a core 2 duo 2.2 ghz with 2 gb ram and intel gma 4500 processor
[01:16] <laptop> is there is better support with 18.04
[01:17] <crimson_king> laptop, I don't know. 16.04 is still supported. If you're happy with it, don't sweat it. Don't get paranoid over these things. If you really need more updated software, Ubuntu 18.04 is the right place to be right now, hehe
[01:18] <laptop> when you say more updated software what is the real advantage, security?
[01:18] <laptop> i am in hotel rooms a lot with wifi
[01:18] <crimson_king> laptop, usually, yes. New kernel brings new hardware support, fixes, improvements, but also sometimes brings new issues
[01:18] <laptop> other than firewall there is no other protection other than a vpn
[01:18] <laptop> is 18.04 still too buggy
[01:18] <oerheks> there is only one way to find out, for your hardware.
[01:19] <crimson_king> laptop, exactly what oerheks said
[01:19] <laptop> i am need to install it lol
[01:19] <oerheks> it might run wayland fine, too
[01:20] <crimson_king> laptop, about security, firewall is just one of many things that make up security of a GNU/Linux system.
[01:20] <laptop> well you know it is really sad i had to install windows vista on my system to play my game since the intel driver is not well supported, unfortunately i only have a windows visata license although i like linux more
[01:20] <laptop> what else would you recommend
[01:21] <crimson_king> laptop, I mean, you don't need to install anything else assuming your needs are average.
[01:21] <crimson_king> I just use firewall because I need to open ports for my Tor relay
[01:21] <crimson_king> port forwarding..
[01:22] <laptop> i see i think i will try ubuntu 18.04 the security mitigations are worth along with the most stable browser
[01:22] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: if a sepparate swap partition is of no benefit; I would like for the total install not to exceed 37GB and my current home directory is ~7GB, is it reasonable to allocate 10GB for the home partition, 3GB for boot partition and the rest for the rest of system?
[01:22] <laptop> just sucks that i have to still use windows vista to play my game
[01:22] <crimson_king> laptop, by the way, experiment with Tor. Download the Tor Browser. Read the website, it has important info.
[01:22] <crimson_king> If you worry about privacy/security, that will be interesting
[01:23] <laptop> i have experimented with it, i like zenmate it works better for me
[01:23] <laptop> zenmate vpn
[01:23] <laptop> for chromium
[01:23] <laptop> plus my bank will not allow me to use tor
[01:24] <crimson_king> I see, just be careful with VPNs. They're centralized. Don't just trust any one
[01:26] <laptop> that is why i have to rely on the most uptodate kernel and browser that is stable not perfect but better than nothing
[01:26] <DocPlatypus> how do I stop updates from being automatically downloaded? I sometimes take my laptop to places where I'm using a cellular-wifi bridge or other spotty connectivity situations, and do not want to exhaust the quota/have my connection lag unnecessarily
[01:29] <bsudarsono> halo
[01:32] <crimson_king> DocPlatypus, open "Programs & Updates", the app that lets you choose mirrors, edit PPAs, you know?
[01:32] <crimson_king> DocPlatypus, then switch to the "Updates" tab
[01:34] <crimson_king> DocPlatypus, where it reads "When there are security updates" change to "Show Immediately"
[01:34] <crimson_king> But I'm not sure if other apps like GNOME Software will respect these options or they have their own
[01:36] <two_dogs_> hello everyone
[01:39] <oerheks> with systemd; systemctl status apt-daily.service and systemctl status apt-daily.timer are the services to tweak if you want to rule updates
[01:44] <snapdata> I'm trying to get the on-screen keyboard working for my disabled brother in 18.04. However, the only time it actives is when tapping on the input for the 'Applications' menu (gnome 3). In all other input scenarios, it never appears. I have tried both with and without the OSK enabled in the Accessibility settings, it makes no difference.
[01:45] <snapdata> I have tried googling extensively but only turned up bugs for 16.04 or earlier that are no longer relevant.
[01:45] <snapdata> Could someone tell me how I can check what inputs are firing for what touch events so that I might be able to trace it back to the source?
[01:45] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: I realize its all largely personal pref but, I'd like to know, what is a min reasonble amount of space for the system partition to work properly (if boot partition is sepparate)?
[01:47] <snapdata> For the record I have tried in Terminal (sometimes it appears, sometimes it doesn't, it's extremely sporadic), in web browsers, and other non-system apps (where it has never appeared at all)
[01:47] <SlidingHorn> RoadRunner: take a look at https://help.ubutu.com/community/DiskSpace
[01:48] <SlidingHorn> oops
[01:48] <SlidingHorn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[01:50] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: thank you I'll study this
[01:52] <oerheks> snapdata, move mouse down, then hit space, and keyboard appears
[01:54] <RoadRunner> SlidingHorn: a superficial look through this material suggests a swap partition as "very recommended" , remembering what you said about it earlier, I am wondering if their suggestions may be out of date?
[01:55] <snapdata> oerheks: is that just the way it works in 18.04 now? My brother is mentally disabled and he's not going to be able to do that. I was hoping it would work like it used to where it just appears when you use a touch event to select an input field
[01:58] <snapdata> oerheks: What I've noticed playing around now is I can somewhat reliably get the keyboard to appear by dragging up from the bottom of the screen (1 out of 5 times or so) but there's no way to close it then. Unfortunately that will be too complicated for him
[02:00] <oerheks> that would be clicking the keyboard-icon, no?
[02:01] <snapdata> oerheks: What do you mean? In 18.04 there is no keyboard icon like there was in 17.04 and earlier
[02:02] <snapdata> oerheks: or 16, can't remember. Unity and Gnome use different OSKs
[02:03] <oerheks> settings > universal access - 1st switch "always show .." and typing "onscreen keyboard"
[02:04] <oerheks> under that, there is type assist, with tweak options
[02:07] <snapdata> oerheks: It doesn't work regardless of whether or not the OSK is enabled in the accessibility settings, unfortunately. Ubuntu 18.04 has some weird bundled support for touch activation of the OSK regardless of whether or not it's enabled, but in any case, it only works in the app menu, and nowhere else really
[02:08] <snapdata> oerheks: I've even tried installing the OSK from unity, which doesn't appear under any circumstances either
[02:11] <oerheks> i wonder why might can help you with this, touch and keyboard issue
[02:20] <antonioalencar> Hi! Could someone help me out ? I was trying to move a '.tar.gz' from Downloads file to a file in /usr, however I did it right, somehow i also moved the /home/mainfolder , is there something i could do to back for what was before ?
[02:23] <eelstrebor> earlier i tried to install 18.04, got it installed but the network didn't get configured correctly and i couldn't login to get my desktop - so i rolled back to 16.04 and now i have a networking issue - names get resolved but i can't ping my isp's gateway but can connect to the router
[02:24] <eelstrebor> frustrated
[02:25] <eelstrebor> the routing table matches other computers so i'm at a loss as to how to fix this - btw, all other devices on the network are ok, just my server box is broken
[02:27] <eelstrebor> did i mention that i can't web surf?
[02:28] <guiverc> antonioalencar, i would suggest looking thru `history` (command history) and seeing what you did wrong  (in hopes it'll provide a solution beyond the normal restore from backups)
[02:28] <Prospero_1> you can't ping the gateway address?
[02:28] <Prospero_1> Because it sounds like you can reach the dns
[02:30] <guiverc> eelstrebor, i agree with Prospero_1 , the only option could be two devices using same ip address & a switch/router ignoring one as a result? (was it fixed? - check its ip address)
[02:30] <guiverc> eelstrebor, s/only option/only other cause i can think of/
[02:32] <eelstrebor> all my devices on my network have a static ip and none have this ip except just it - also everything worked fine until i made the mistake of trying to upgrade
[02:33] <guiverc> eelstrebor, it was just a thought I had  (easy to check, so I thought worth mentioning)
[02:35] <eelstrebor> it really makes me mad when this happens
[02:36]  * eelstrebor wonders how many HOURS he'll have to spend to fix it
[02:36] <Prospero_1> cat /etc/resolv.conf and ping the nameserver address there. What is the result?
[02:36] <eelstrebor> i'm done for the night
[02:37] <eelstrebor> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[02:37] <eelstrebor> pings fine and i can ping the router
[02:38] <guiverc> eelstrebor, add a "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to the file, try pinging (named addresses) addresses then...
[02:40] <eelstrebor> tried it, no-go
[02:41] <eelstrebor> i don't know, maybe it's something flakey with the new router firmware - i've tried rebooting the router so i'll try rolling back the firmware
[02:42] <eelstrebor> but, the family comes after me with pitchforks when i mess with the router
[02:42] <maum> hello
[02:47] <Prospero_1> 127.0.0.1 is your localhost. Guiverc has it. 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1 :')
[02:49] <guiverc> Prospero_1, localhost is not abnormal, it means its done locally (elsewhere) - if that was misconfigured though another address would 'solve' the issue as it'd be used also (what i was thinking - it wouldn't fix local dns & gets lost of restart..)
[02:50] <Prospero_1> guiverc, yep. The ping there isn't indicative of anything useful though.
[02:53] <Prospero_1> Alright then. Take it one hop at a time. What is your default gateway address, can you ping it, and can you open up an admin web page on it?
[02:53] <Prospero_1> Another long shot would be to try ufw disable
[04:16] <{bosco}> so i am using my laptop ubuntu 17.04 with a hdmi cable attached to my samsung monitor and outputing the sound to a soundbar via audio cables why is my sound not going through the sound bar works just fine in windows to test but not in ubuntu display works fine and ubuntu sees it just fine :_
[04:18] <cfhowlett> support for 17.04 ended in January.  upgrade to a supported version
[04:19] <{bosco}> i agree but it should still work in 17.04 correct or there is a way to make it work
[04:19] <cfhowlett> not supported includes irc support has ended.  upgrade is the way to make it work.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !17.04
[04:21] <{bosco}> did something like this not work out of the box in 17.04 sound over hdmi or is this new to 18.04/10 ??? if so i will upgrade
[04:25] <cfhowlett> sound > important < security?
[04:26] <{bosco}> is that a yes or no ?
[04:26] <{bosco}> if it was supposed to i want to figure out why
[04:27] <lotuspsychje_> {bosco} 17.04 is end of life, that means we cannot support it anymore as cfhowlett stated above
[04:28] <{bosco}> i know u cannot support it but u cant tell me whether sound over hdmi was supported in a previous version thats all i am asking ?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> certainly was in 16.04 I haven't tested 18.04
[04:29] <cfhowlett> of course, YMMV. different hardware, etc
[04:31] <cfhowlett> easy test for your, {bosco}: get 16/18.04, make an ubuntu USB, boot the USB and test it.
[05:13] <begundal> hello
[05:16] <Shibe> is there any way i can get the latest stable mesa on ubuntu 18.04? the padoka stable ppa only seems to support 16.04 and 17.10
[05:16] <Drag0nhunter> hello all
[05:18] <Drag0nhunter> @shibe...officially...no but there are other ways i can't mention here
[05:19] <lotuspsychje_> !latest | Shibe
[05:22] <oerheks> if not padoka, then oibaf https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[05:30] <patrick_> Can anyone help me navigate upgrading my Ubuntu Mate 15.10 to 16.04?
[05:31] <patrick_> ..I found the disc from a few years back having 15.04 on it; popped it in a raspberry pi, and here I sit now with 15.10, and a bit stuck..
[05:32] <Prospero_1> Google: sources.list 16.04 mate --or you can apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:32] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | patrick_
[05:33] <Prospero_1> dist-upgrade has caused me headaches in the past. Haven't done it in a while though.
[05:43] <maum> hello
[05:47] <maum> ./dev/sda1 is full, what can I do?
[05:47] <EriC^^> maum: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:48] <maum> EriC^^: I tried it but the device is still full
[05:48] <EriC^^> maum: show your partition table "sudo parted -ls"
[05:48] <EriC^^> !paste | maum
[05:49] <maum> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tJh4BJr6VW/
[05:53] <EriC^^> maum: type 'df -h'
[05:55] <maum> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V6ktfqtPdM/
[05:58] <EriC^^> maum: type 'sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print'
[05:59] <maum> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8PmmZnGNqK/
[06:00] <EriC^^> maum: type 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda'
[06:01] <maum> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3KmRXd5Q5r/
[06:02] <EriC^^> maum: press "d" then select "1"
[06:02] <maum> EriC^^: can I do this?
[06:02] <EriC^^> yes
[06:02] <maum> EriC^^: the fillesystem will be gone?
[06:02] <maum> hm..
[06:02] <EriC^^> no just the partition table entry
[06:03] <maum> I did
[06:03] <maum> sda3 left
[06:03] <gogeta> ?
[06:03] <EriC^^> type 'n' then 'p'
[06:03] <EriC^^> (for primary)
[06:03] <EriC^^> make the starting sector at 2048
[06:03] <gogeta> old manual partation?
[06:03] <gogeta> why not use cfdisk
[06:03] <maum> partition number is 1 ?
[06:03] <EriC^^> maum: yes
[06:04] <maum> EriC^^: last sector?
[06:04] <EriC^^> maum: use the default one
[06:04] <maum> os
[06:04] <maum> ok
[06:04] <maum> done
[06:04] <EriC^^> type 'w'
[06:04] <maum> q ?
[06:05] <EriC^^> yes
[06:05] <EriC^^> then 'sudo partprobe /dev/sda'
[06:05] <maum> done
[06:05] <EriC^^> maum: sudo resize2fs /dev/sda1
[06:06] <maum> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7x4J2Nvt3F/
[06:07] <rangemonger> if im doing a net install with a minimal lxde desktop, what package(s) do i need to get the wifi tray icon?
[06:07] <EriC^^> maum: what does df -h show ?
[06:08] <gogeta> rangemonger: wpasuppclment and some sort of networkmanager
[06:08] <maum> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mc76wZfHNd/
[06:08] <rangemonger> gogeta: word, thanks
[06:09] <gogeta> rangemonger: wicd is a good alt
[06:09] <rangemonger> great thanks
[06:10] <rangemonger> ill try em both
[06:10] <gogeta> rangemonger: network manager in gnome and need a bunch of gnome stuff
[06:10] <gogeta> rangemonger: wicd is its own thing and you cant install both they conflict
[06:10] <rangemonger> right, i can try one at a time though
[06:11] <EriC^^> maum: try rebooting it
[06:11] <gogeta> rangemonger: wicd-client is the gui version
[06:11] <rangemonger> actually, it seems that wicd depends on the other one
[06:12] <rangemonger> gogeta: im making a minimal server for my compute stick
[06:13] <rangemonger> seems like every ubuntu release's meta packages get a bit more messed up
[06:13] <gogeta> rangemonger: wicd-curses is a cli version with a ncuses gui
[06:13] <maum> EriC^^: ok
[06:13] <gogeta> rangemonger: very nice if your going no window manager
[06:13] <rangemonger> noted
[06:14] <rangemonger> if one of these works good, the only other problem left is finding away to do an install without needing a net connection
[06:15] <rangemonger> for some reason it needs one to get the efi grub installed
[06:15] <rangemonger> even if i compile an iso with the grub efi packages
[06:16] <maum> EriC^^: I rebooted the system, df -h output is same
[06:18] <gogeta> rangemonger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[06:18] <gogeta> rangemonger: oh strange
[06:18] <rangemonger> yeah
[06:18] <rangemonger> well, it does that even with an official build
[06:19] <rangemonger> install it with no nw connection, grubs efi install fails
[06:19] <oerheks> "seems like every ubuntu release's meta packages get a bit more messed up"  i read such statements all the time, but never proven to be true
[06:19] <rangemonger> with net on, it goes
[06:19] <rangemonger> oerheks: i never read it anywhere but its been my experience over the last few versions
[06:20] <rangemonger> i used to have an easier time just installing a minimal and then picking a few metas and be done with it
[06:20] <rangemonger> now things are all broken, its like the metas dont get everything they need to work
[06:20] <rangemonger> for example, installing xinit doesnt give you a working xorg like it used to
[06:20] <gogeta> rangemonger: one methed could be clone your entire base install to a image and clone it to eatch drive
[06:21] <rangemonger> it "forgets" to get xterm, which is what it needs
[06:21] <rangemonger> gogeta: thats what i was thinking if all else fails
[06:27] <maum> EriC^^: are you there?
[06:29] <begundal> hello
[06:30] <rangemonger> gogeta: the preferences>network connections item in lubuntus start menu, what package is this a part of? i cant seem to pin it down
[06:30] <gogeta> rangemonger: probly network manager
[06:31] <rangemonger> i installed that and i dont get it
[06:32] <gogeta> rangemonger: To fix the Network Manager not showing up on the panel issue, from the Lubuntu menu select Preferences > Default applications for LXSession, then click on the Autostart tab and under "Manual autostarted applications" type "nm-applet", then click the "+ Add" button on the left:
[06:33] <gogeta> rangemonger: then relog and it should be there
[06:34] <rangemonger> gogeta: so it just needs to autostart
[06:34] <rangemonger> it should add a start menu entery though
[06:34] <rangemonger> oh wait, one of the packages i just got added it
[06:34] <rangemonger> not sure which
[06:35] <gogeta> rangemonger: sometimes with ldxe you even need to refresh for the menu to refresh
[06:35] <gogeta> rangemonger: eg reload
[06:35] <rangemonger> hmm, if i go to create a wifi with it, nothing happens, must need something more
[06:35] <rangemonger> ive been restarting after most installs to make sure
[06:36] <rangemonger> this is on a vm at the moment so its not that irritating
[06:36] <gogeta> rangemonger: lol
[06:36] <gogeta> rangemonger: nothing as in no networks show up?
[06:36] <rangemonger> the whole wifi dialogue doesnt show
[06:36] <rangemonger> one sec, gonna run it from a terminal window
[06:37] <gogeta> rangemonger: that may mean your lacking a wifi driver
[06:37] <rangemonger> crap, nothing shows up in the terminal
[06:37] <rangemonger> no verbose stuff
[06:37] <rangemonger> oh well
[06:37] <rangemonger> hmm
[06:38] <rangemonger> i think the dialogue should still come up
[06:38] <rangemonger> it does on the full lubuntu build
[06:38] <gogeta> rangemonger: what the applet?
[06:38] <rangemonger> oh wait, there was a seg fault
[06:38] <gogeta> rangemonger: ah
[06:38] <rangemonger> nm-connection-editor
[06:39] <gogeta> rangemonger: kinda why i recmonded wicd
[06:39] <rangemonger> seg fault on a fresh install :S
[06:39] <rangemonger> yeah, im leaning towards that  one too
[06:40] <gogeta> rangemonger: in base installed the nm is a bit of a bear
[06:40] <LeelooMinai> Anyone alive?
[06:40] <gogeta> LeelooMinai: nope killed em all
[06:40] <rangemonger> gogeta: yeah
[06:40] <LeelooMinai> Are you human?
[06:40] <gogeta> LeelooMinai: there dead
[06:41] <LeelooMinai> That was a serious question.
[06:41] <lotuspsychje_> !ask | LeelooMinai
[06:42] <gogeta> rangemonger: wicd has a applet as well
[06:42] <LeelooMinai> There's 1640 nicks in this channel. If you are human, ask yourelf: why my question had close to no response and even when someone responded, the communications stopped?
[06:43] <rangemonger> gogeta: i also made a minimal lxde for nothing more than to run kvm on my desktop, its really sweet this way, basically just the taskbar, remote tools via nomachine, timeshift for backup and virtman
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> LeelooMinai: asking if anyone is alive is not an ubuntu support question, go to the essential please
[06:43] <guiverc> LeelooMinai, when did you ask your Ubuntu question?  I'
[06:43] <gogeta> rangemonger: handy
[06:43] <guiverc> I'm yet to see one.
[06:43] <rangemonger> gogeta: yeah, i saw the applet, its perfect
[06:43] <LeelooMinai> You are proving my point.
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: please next time, be helpful to users
[06:44] <Markdown1_> !anyone | LeelooMinai
[06:44] <gogeta> lotuspsychje: litterly helping one
[06:44] <rangemonger> lotuspsychje: dude is really helpful this time
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: saying the channel is dead, isnt really helpful?
[06:44] <gogeta> rangemonger: so wicd is working correctly
[06:45] <LeelooMinai> From my point of view this channel is dead, yes, that's the point.
[06:45] <rangemonger> seems to be, im going to have to compile this into an iso and fire it up on the compute stick to be sure
[06:45] <gogeta> rangemonger: nice
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> LeelooMinai: please proceed to your question?
[06:45] <ducasse> LeelooMinai: do you have a support question?
[06:45] <LeelooMinai> Which means, either I am insane or people are not human any more.
[06:45] <rangemonger> how is it dead? we are all right here? :P
[06:45] <LeelooMinai> rangemonger: We?
[06:46] <rangemonger> me, and the others talking right now
[06:46] <LeelooMinai> Are you sure everything is "normal" around?  DId you maybe notice something strange happening with "the world"?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> !ot | LeelooMinai
[06:47] <LeelooMinai> lotuspsychje: Are you human?
[06:47] <guiverc> thanks lotuspsychje
[06:47] <Markdown1_> !offtopic | LeelooMinai
[06:48] <LeelooMinai> No one asked me a question that I would be able to distinguish from AI.
[06:48] <LeelooMinai> And it should terrify you if there's any humanity left in you.
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> LeelooMinai: please stop chitchat here
[06:49] <guiverc> LeelooMinai, I looked in the last six hours of logs; I see no Ubuntu question in the logs for this channel (from your nick).  Please stay on topic.
[06:49] <Flannel> LeelooMinai: as others have said, you can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic, but not here.
[06:49] <LeelooMinai> Proving my point.
[06:49] <gogeta> dam didnt mean to feed to troll
[06:50] <LeelooMinai> I am not a troll. I am a human being. You behave like AI.
[06:50] <cfhowlett> and you are acting rude and disruptive.
[06:50] <Flannel> gogeta: Not a troll, just offtopic.
[06:51] <gogeta> Flannel: havent seen you in years didnt know you still an ops hear
[06:51] <Flannel> gogeta: Howdy howdy.
[06:52] <Markdown1_> theres a very easy way to know who are the Ops :P
[06:52] <Markdown1_> its listed
[06:52] <gogeta> lol i know flannel
[06:56] <scrote> hi
[06:56] <scrote> debootstrap is saying -->  W: Cannot check Release signature; keyring file not available /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg  What does that have to do with bootstrap?
[07:06] <oerheks> scrote, err, ask in #debian ?
[07:08] <oerheks> i wonder if you need https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/debian-archive-keyring .. we would use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-keyring/2018.02.28
[07:23] <bronne> 18.04 -> any way to disable automount of usb drives (disabled it 2 places so far - media gui and org/gnome/media-handling/automount -> no effect)
[07:34] <EriC^^> maum: what does sudo parted -ls show now?
[07:36] <kiriuha> hello
[07:36] <kiriuha> ?
[07:37] <ducasse> !ask | kiriuha
[07:38] <cfhowlett> ducasse, he knows. same thing over the past couple of days/nights
[07:41] <kiriuha> apt remove htop | kiriuha
[07:43] <bronne> kiriuha, is it some kind of abstract trolling?
[07:48] <kiriuha> ll
[07:50] <kiriuha> 2 + 2
[07:54] <kiriuha> has
[07:55] <kiriuha> bash
[07:55] <quesker> is there a 32 bit ubuntu?  can't find it on downloads page
[07:55] <rangemonger> gogeta: well this is weird, the applet doesnt show my wifi nic but i put the gnome one that you referred to as a bear on their and it sees the various SSIDs in the area
[07:55] <rangemonger> quesker: they dropped it
[07:55] <cfhowlett> not for ubuntu.  yes for xubuntu and lubuntu
[07:55] <bronne> quesker, support dropped
[07:55] <Tegu> quesker: there is one at the deeply hidden in the alternative downloads section
[07:55] <cfhowlett> at least for 16.04
[07:55] <rangemonger> but those are dropping soon too
[07:56] <bronne> quesker, https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[07:56] <quesker> ok thanks I see 16.04 32 bit
[07:57] <Tegu> here is a 32-bit netbook image for 18.04 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[07:57] <Tegu> netboot*, not netbook..
[07:58] <quesker> thanks but I think I need an iso so I can boot in a vm
[07:58] <Tegu> there is mini.iso
[08:01] <bronne> quesker, what 32-bit programs do you need to run?
[08:01] <quesker> host os is 32 bit
[08:02] <bronne> quesker, ah wow ok
[08:14] <thinky> hi there
[08:16] <Lud> Hello, I am having some trouble. VLC isn't able to open my /dev/video0 file. The VLC log says 'v4l2 demux error: cannot open device '/dev/video0': Operation note permitted' Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[08:26] <Lud> I think VLC doesn't have permission to read my /dev/video0 file :/
[08:34] <Lud> GOT IT
[08:34] <Lud> Snap installs in a private Home environment, had to install with the --classic flag!
[08:57] <shmotten> Hey!
[08:57] <shmotten> I have some problems with drivers
[08:58] <shmotten> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T440 with ubuntu 18.04 and my I can't get my touchpad and fingerprint scan drivers working
[08:58] <shmotten> I have tried installing them via a VM but that didn't work
[09:05] <rats> Hi
[09:06] <shmotten> Does anybody know?
[09:06] <rats> What??
[09:07] <shmotten> How I can install the drivers on my Lenovo thinkpad T440
[09:07] <shmotten> For my touchpad and fingerprint scanner
[09:07] <rats> It will automatically installed
[09:08] <rats> You dont need to do anything
[09:08] <shmotten> Nope, it's kind of a weird touchpad with one button but the normal functionalities don't work
[09:08] <shmotten> I can use it to left click and move the cursors but that's it
[09:09] <shmotten> I can't right click or scroll with multiple fingers
[09:09] <crimson_king> shmotten, that is a matter of configuration
[09:09] <shmotten> Where can I configure that?
[09:09] <crimson_king> just a moment, i'll find the page that shows you that
[09:09] <shmotten> Okay, thank you!
[09:11] <crimson_king> shmotten, when you say you can't right click, is it via button or gesture?
[09:12] <shmotten> My touchpad is one big button so right clicking is normally a fast double click or a long click
[09:14] <crimson_king> shmotten, have you tried tapping with two fingers?
[09:15] <shmotten> Yes I have now but it just left clicks
[09:16] <crimson_king> shmotten, okay, i'm writing a libinput config with an option, you'll try it and see if that works.
[09:16] <shmotten> Okay, thank you
[09:21] <crimson_king> shmotten, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7tYSdwBFYg/
[09:21] <shmotten> thank yoo
[09:21] <crimson_king> you will create folder /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ if it doesn't exist already
[09:21] <shmotten> Okay I'll do that
[09:22] <crimson_king> edit new file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf
[09:22] <crimson_king> and paste the config I posted in there.
[09:22] <crimson_king> Reboot computer and see if it works
[09:23] <crimson_king> And try to understand the options, so you can adapt them later to your needs. Here are my sources: https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput
[09:26] <faLUCE> Hello. Is there a newsreader for ubuntu, with GUI, that allows to send control messages?
[09:26] <shmotten> Okay, thank you crimson! I'm going to restart now
[09:28] <shmotten> It worked Crimson, thank you so much!
[09:28] <crimson_king> shmotten, good to know, your welcome (:
[09:29] <crimson_king> shmotten, By the way, there's some information concerning your laptop here: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T440s#Trackpoint_scrolling
[09:29] <crimson_king> if you ever need it
[09:29] <shmotten> Thanks!
[09:36] <shmotten> Crimson do you mind if I share this on my blog in the future? Of course I'll credit you
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[09:43]  * WargaNet marhaban ya ramadan
[09:43] <WargaNet> exit
[09:43] <WargaNet> hy bro
[09:43]  * WargaNet hy bro
[09:43]  * WargaNet marhaban ya ramadan
[09:44] <WargaNet> ping
[09:44] <WargaNet> ping
[09:44]  * WargaNet ping
[09:44] <WargaNet> ping
[10:03] <Lud> Can someone tell me, what is the audio src file I can use (similar to dev/video0) for my microphone?
[10:19] <Lud> I found the file, it is in /dev/snd/by-path. But I don't know why VLC won't work with it.
[10:20] <Lud> It says it can't open ALSA device, no such file or directory.
[10:38] <lars_> I`m running ubuntu on an old macbook.  The fans tend to spike and then turn off repeatedly.  Is there a way to rather get the fans to run moderately all the time or at least more often?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !fans | lars_
[10:38] <lars_> !fans
[10:38] <cfhowlett> wait 1
[10:39] <cfhowlett> !fan | lars_
[10:39] <cfhowlett> try that
[10:39] <lars_> cfhowlett thank you, I will try that!
[10:39] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[10:43] <tom3434> hi, i was doing dist-upgrade but let me ssh session time out while it was waiting for my input. I coulnd't ssh back in and forgot about the backup sshd running before rebooting the server. Now neither of 2 sshd's running. I managed to upload a php shell to do some basic stuff, any way i can fix ssh somehow?
[10:46] <enyc> tom3434: upload? via what mechanism?
[10:47] <enyc> tom3434: you probably need access to 'console' of your server, etc.
[10:47] <tom3434> torrent and webserver with php are still running, i created a torrent
[10:47] <enyc> tom3434: webserer runs as a restricted user
[10:48] <tom3434> yeah i know
[10:48] <enyc> tom3434: generally no, you can't do much about locking yourself out like that =)
[10:48] <tom3434> but maybe the backup ssh is setuid
[10:48] <enyc> tom3434: but you did'nt answer my question
[10:48] <enyc> tom3434: 11:46 < enyc> tom3434: upload? via what mechanism?
[10:48] <enyc> tom3434: do you have some out-of-band file-access-protocol thats' still wokring??!?
[10:48] <tom3434> there's a torrent client running with a webinterface, i added a torrent there
[10:49] <enyc> tom3434: hrrm, thats' just again within that pirtucalr web-interface/program
[10:50] <lars_> !fan
[10:51] <tom3434> now searching for all setuid programs...
[10:57] <tom3434> yes, got in
[10:57] <tom3434> with https://evertpot.com/189/
[10:58] <enyc> tom3434: ooer i wouldn't have wanted www-data to be able to root, hrrm.
[10:58] <tom3434> well you need the password of a user
[10:59] <lars_> whoever helped me, now the fans are acting more sensible, thanks!
[10:59] <enyc> tom3434: fix sshd, fix backup sshd ;p
[11:00] <enyc> tom3434: check that sshd comes back on reboot...?
[11:00] <tom3434> maybe if i can continue the dist-upgrade from here it will fix itself
[11:00] <enyc> tom3434: yes, get backup sshd up first
[11:00] <tom3434> do you know the location of that?
[11:00] <enyc> tom3434: "dpkg --configure -a" will help complete package-configuration in progress
[11:00] <enyc> tom3434: no, did you follow instructions to start sshd yourself?
[11:00] <lars_> is there an easy way to back up (and recover) an installation I`m happy with to a cloud?
[11:01] <lars_> for example dropbox
[11:01] <acu> !nvidia
[11:01] <enyc> lars_: not simple you are talknig dik-images or filessytme-images or something
[11:01] <enyc> lars_: generally you want virtula-machine wrapped around it to do that kind of thing
[11:02] <tom3434> haven't done anything yet
[11:02] <enyc> tom3434: how did you start bakcup-sshd yourself the first time?
[11:02] <tom3434> it was the dist-upgrade process that started it
[11:03] <enyc> tom3434: really????!?
[11:03] <enyc> tom3434: not had that
[11:03] <enyc> tom3434: ubuntu's "do-release-upgrade" is another matter
[11:03] <lars_> enyc ok.  I`ll google that and see what I can find out
[11:03] <enyc> lars_: "cloud" is far too vague really
[11:04] <tom3434> oh yeah could have been that one
[11:04] <enyc> tom3434: in which case, I'd "dpkg --configure -a" first
[11:04] <enyc> tom3434: and then try restarting do-release-upgrade and let it start backup-sshd again, etc
[11:04] <tom3434> ok
[11:04] <enyc> tom3434: this time TEST IT and keey your own log, don't just 'lose' whats' going on
[11:05] <lars_> enyc right.  What I really want to do is just put it on a remote storage service.  Doesn`t matter witch service.
[11:06] <enyc> lars_: tbh I'd look at what-it-is that linuxmint-19 incude in their system (soon to be released) to make system-backup/rsync mechanism.
[11:06] <enyc> lars_: whatever that is, probably can be applied to ubuntu-18.04 too, i very much suspect.
[11:07] <enyc> lars_: ALSO -- its' all-very-well haning something resembling a copy and 'feeling safe' -- but you need to TEST that you can actually install a new system hard-disk temporarially and ''restore'' the backup/image  actually works.
[11:11] <lars_> enyc right.  Pictures and documents I tend to store on multiple cloud services, but since i tend to break my linux installations, I`d like to learn how to do a full upgrade, so I don`t have to do all the customization every time that happens
[11:11] <lars_> ops, I ment backup, not upgrade
[11:11] <enyc> lars_: if you have a set of stuff that is 'complex' you may want to consider separating into virtual-machines
[11:12] <enyc> lars_: HOWEVER, really, you need to be able to restore your customizations-that-matter from scratch,  basically your own documentation.
[11:13] <enyc> lars_: if you're not able to restore-from-scratch, basicalyl, you're doing sometithgnwrong.
[11:16] <lars_> enyc right, I`ve got like 6 months of linux experience so far, so there are a lot of concepts that are foreign to me.  The raspberry pi got me hooked :)
[11:16] <enyc> lars_: keep going // keep loarening
[11:16] <enyc> lars_: i've had allosrts of debian/devuan/ubuntu/slackware/redhat/variants for long time...!
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:29] <acu> Hello Everyone
[11:30] <phil42> buenos dias
[11:30] <acu> I run ubuntu 16.04 in a toshibal 2x1 laptop -  everything was OK, but I cannot boot anymore - the data inside is OK, but I need to restore the boot partition - can anyone help me how to do it ?
[11:32] <lars_> acu what did you do before that happened?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> acu, details?
[11:33] <kiokoman> acu: https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[11:37] <acu> the problem is that I cannot see even grub - strangely enough I went to bios and checked something - but I did not any modification I can remember - I reseted the bios/uefi too - and disabled secure boot - however, it looks like the hdd is not there
[11:39] <tomreyn> acu: when you say you don't get to "see grub", you mean the grub menu does not show when the system boots?
[11:43] <tom3434> anyone got a clean sshd config file for 18.04?
[11:43] <kiokoman> acu: maybe inadvertently u change sata hard disk mode from ide to ahci or the other way around
[11:45] <kiokoman> tom3434: default should be here /usr/share/openssh/sshd_config
[11:45] <tom3434> thx
[12:02] <math_> hi
[12:27] <Zborg> I am trying to install the vbox guest additions on a ubuntu 18.04 host and it doesn't want to cooperate
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !vbox | Zborg
[12:28] <Zborg> When I try to run make oldconfig && make prepare on the kernel headers it fails with  "no rule to make target arch/x86/entry/syscalls/syscall32.tbl"
[12:31] <Zborg> which is absolutely useless generic information and says nothing about fixing the "kernel configuration is invalid" error message when installing the guest additions
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Zborg, highly specific to virtualbox might be better asked in the #vbox channel
[12:33] <Zborg> Well the problem is with going into /usr/src/linux-headers-4.15.0-20 and running make oldconfig && make prepare
[12:33] <cfhowlett> wait are you compiling from source or something?
[12:34] <Zborg> I believe VBoxLinuxAdditions.run does compile the modules from source
[12:34] <tomreyn> "install guest additions on a [..] host" sounds wrong.
[12:34] <Zborg> no, ubuntu 18.04 guest
[12:34] <zero> anyone installed R on ubuntu 18.04 yet?
[12:35] <zero0000> anyone installed R on ubuntu 18.04 yet?
[12:35] <tomreyn> Guest7394: probably, whats your actual question?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> I click on virtualbox Devices, select "install guest additions CD image" sudo sh ./VBoxLinuxAdditions and done.
[12:35] <zero0000> tried r-core and get nothing but needs dep but they wont install/
[12:36] <zero0000> ?
[12:37] <zero0000> unable to get R or R studio going in latest ubuntu update any idea's people?
[12:37] <tomreyn> !details | zero0000
[12:38] <zero0000> i get this warning Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[12:38] <zero0000> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[12:38] <zero0000> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[12:38] <zero0000> or been moved out of Incoming.
[12:38] <zero0000> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[12:38] <zero0000> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[12:39] <tomreyn> !paste | zero0000
[12:40] <zero0000> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mg7kXDpZVw/
[12:41] <cfhowlett> Zborg, are you using this guide:  https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch04.html#idm2099
[12:42] <nero_> zero : autoremove the package with purge and reinstall the package with the forcing commands see also if need some dependances you need
[12:42] <tomreyn> zero0000: what is the command you rant o create this output?
[12:42] <zero0000> sudo apt install r-base
[12:43] <tomreyn> zero0000: did you "sudo apt update" beforehand?
[12:43] <zero0000> yea
[12:43] <cfhowlett> sudo apt dist-upgrade
[12:43] <zero0000> fresh install not installed before :/
[12:43] <tomreyn> nero_: let's not force unless there is really no other option.
[12:44] <darthbuntu> hey guys, I'm trying to install cuda and I accidentally did `dpkg -i ....deb` on the wrong .deb file, and now I'm not able to remove it ... the .deb file didn't install anything, it only adds new repository sources .... I've tried removing the file under /etc/apt/sources.d/... but it still complains when I try to add a different version repo
[12:44] <darthbuntu> also seems that I can't use dpkg -r since the .deb is not a package, but only adds a repository
[12:45] <tomreyn> zero0000: i'm with cfhowlett there, do the dist-upgrade
[12:45] <cfhowlett> darthbuntu, sudo dpkg -r foo.deb       should remove
[12:45] <zero0000> ill give it go
[12:46] <darthbuntu> cfhowlett: lol funny thing ... I actually tried removing the exact foo.deb name, but that didn't work ,but now that you've said it I just did `sudo dpkg -r foo` and it worked :o
[12:46] <darthbuntu> thanks :)
[12:46] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[12:47] <darthbuntu> but I still see it under the "Other software" section in the repositories GUI hrmm
[12:47] <darthbuntu> and doing `sudo apt update` still fetches from that repo
[12:47] <cfhowlett> reboot and try again
[12:47] <zero0000> same result after dist-upgrade?
[12:48] <tomreyn> darthbuntu: apt purge foo
[12:48] <Zborg> yes, and I just tried to get the kernel sources but I just have download-signed, download-unsigned, generate-depends, and some other stuff rather than the regular kernel source
[12:48] <darthbuntu> tomreyn: thanks!
[12:48] <darthbuntu> purge helped
[12:49] <tomreyn> zero0000: please show the output of : sudo apt update && apt-cache policy
[12:51] <zero0000> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fPDfHb2yqH/
[12:52] <zero0000> it seems to be ignoreing the cran.rstudio?
[12:52] <tomreyn> zero0000: you have two apt sources configured which do not, no longer, or not yet exist / provide packages for bionic.
[12:52] <cfhowlett> you have mixed trusty and bionic in your sources.  this will cause unexpected behavior up to and including breakage
[12:52] <cfhowlett> and xenial!
[12:52] <tomreyn> zero0000: fix those first: http://ppa.launchpad.net/upubuntu-com/tor64/ubuntu and http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/tor-browser/ubuntu
[12:53] <tomreyn> zero0000: also what cfhowlett says, since that's the issue preventing installation of R, and may cause other issues.
[12:54] <zero0000> ok how do I go about sorting that sorry if dum question?
[12:54] <cfhowlett> zero0000, easy way: edit sources and comment out everything that is non-bionic or ...
[12:55] <tomreyn> zero0000: also "sudo apt purge r-base", i'd do this first.
[12:55] <cfhowlett> build and replace your sources.list manuall with https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[12:56] <Zborg> so any idea how I can get the actual kernel src via apt-get?
[12:57] <zero0000> ok cheers give these things a try
[12:59] <tomreyn> Zborg: could it be that you are mixing up the virtualbox guest additions (which may be installed in VMs running under vbox by inserting an iso images which is dstributed with virtualbox itself into the VMs cd-rom drive) with the virtualbox kernel modules which are required to make virtualbox run on the virtualization host?
[13:01] <Zborg> No, I am running VBoxLinuxAdditions.run from the guest additions disc in the ubuntu 18.04 guest
[13:01] <nicholasBPM> I run my openvpn connection using namespace, if my openvpn connection gets stuck is kill -HUP PID a good way to go?
[13:01] <Zborg> But it fails and in the log it says ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid. include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are missing. Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it.
[13:02] <tomreyn> Zborg: which version of virtualbox is this?
[13:02] <Zborg> 5.2.6
[13:03] <zero0000> tomreyn: fixed it cheers guys
[13:03] <zero0000> cfhowlett: fixed it cheers guys
[13:03] <cfhowlett> happ2help!  and in the future, keep those sources clean
[13:03] <zero0000> commented out in the source and installed correctly :)
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> msg ubottu !info virtualbox
[13:06] <tomreyn> Zborg: if you'll use the upstream repository you should be able to get around this. alternatively, install kernel headers and build utilities in the 18.04 guest using: sudo apt updatze; sudo apt install linux-headers build-essential
[13:07] <tomreyn> Zborg: with the second approach you might need to search the web for virtualbox patches, though, in case this version of the guest additions is not yet compatible with 18.04 guests.
[13:07] <Zborg> already did that
[13:08] <tomreyn> Zborg: which one?
[13:08] <tomreyn> and what was the results
[13:08] <Zborg> I already have the headers and build-essential
[13:08] <Zborg> and the result was the error I gave you
[13:08] <Zborg> I would like to avoid updating virtualbox since that takes several hours, especially if you have XP guests
[13:09] <Zborg> that can take several hours
[13:09] <tomreyn> Zborg: why does it take several hours?
[13:10] <Zborg> after updating virtualbox you have to boot into each windows virtual machine (in safe mode for xp and possibly 7 as well), uninstall the old guest additions, and then install the proper ones
[13:10] <cfhowlett> I've uninstall?  never.  install a new one?  sure.
[13:10] <tomreyn> Zborg: in my experience, the ones from the older virtualbox version will just continue to work fine. but YMMV.
[13:11] <YADW1> Hello! I'm looking for a way to set a ssh password that's different from my user password. Can it be done? My user pass is kinda short/easy to guess, because I only need one for sudo and permissions, I am the only one using my laptop. But I'm not really sure it's an optimal choice to leave an SSH server open with basically no actual protection :/
[13:11] <ben8472> YADW1 : use ssh key instead of password
[13:12] <YADW1> ben8472 I didn't know about it, I'll check it in the man page
[13:12] <ben8472> YADW1 : https://askubuntu.com/questions/46930/how-can-i-set-up-password-less-ssh-login
[13:12] <YADW1> Thank you very much!
[13:12] <ben8472> you are welcome
[13:15] <tomreyn> Zborg: make sure linux-generic and dkms are also installed
[13:34] <macuserman> hello! trying to install bionic beaver 18.04 on a macbook - 16.04 and 17.10 worked, upon trying 18.04 I am looping on startup with some kind of error I think is related to kernal and/or graphics card, it says "unable to handle kernal null pointer deference" - is there a way I can boot from an older kernal?
[13:37] <compdoc> macuserman, on startup booting the dvd, or when booting the hdd?
[13:40] <macuserman> @compdoc when booting the hdd
[13:41] <compdoc> have you tried booting the dvd live? selecting 'try ubuntu'?
[13:41] <macuserman> up to 17.10 seemed to successfully install to hdd
[13:41] <Guest59637> 1796
[13:41] <Guest59637> 0123465
[13:42] <macuserman> compdoc - had some issues booting from live USB with 18.04, so that's why I tried 16.04 which worked fine as well as 17.10
[13:43] <compdoc> how did you put the image on the usb stick?
[13:43] <macuserman> I was getting similar error of being stuck while booting either selecting "install to hdd" or "try ubuntu" options
[13:43] <macuserman> compdoc I did unetbootin, startupdisk, and tried etcher, all three
[13:43] <compdoc> unetbootin is horrible
[13:44] <macuserman> I read some people mentioned you might be able to boot from DVD/CD to bypass
[13:44] <SporkWitch> compdoc: try etcher
[13:44] <macuserman> don't know why USB wouldn't work though
[13:46] <compdoc> Startup Disk Creator seems to come with ubuntu
[13:48] <SporkWitch> [09:44:16] <SporkWitch> compdoc: try etcher
[13:48] <macuserman> newest linux mint edition installed fine as well
[13:55] <smittix> Hi everyone, Has anyone else had an issue where a second monitor is detected but shows no display. It's just black?
[14:01] <SporkWitch> smittix: check display settings
[14:03] <neure> uj
[14:03] <neure> i have ubuntu and windows dual booting
[14:04] <neure> every now and then windows wipes out grub
[14:04] <neure> can i somehow avoid that?
[14:04] <neure> or somehow it disables it, makes it not show up in boot
[14:05] <SporkWitch> neure: other than not booting windows, no; windows is not a good neighbour, and MSFT has been known to do that deliberately
[14:06] <macuserman> smittix uhhh can you just set it up in settings to show dual monitors?
[14:07] <SporkWitch> neure: you could try using separate physical drives; i think windows will only mess with the MBR on its system drive, but i'm not sure, and there's nothing stopping it from messing with every drive's MBR if MSFT chooses to tell it to in one of the unblockable patches they do now
[14:07] <compdoc> macuserman, sounds like you researched it. does seem to be a kernel problem
[14:08] <tomreyn> neure: separate physical drives is an option, as is running windows in virtualization, such as under virtualbox. this works for most use cases, but not when you require graphics acceleration in windows.
[14:10] <SporkWitch> tomreyn: assuming current hardware and a second GPU (or onboard + discrete), pass-through is an option
[14:13] <macuserman> true thx compdoc however so how do I boot from an older kernal or troubleshoot? Can I run bionic beaver with an older kernal (how would I do that)?
[14:15] <compdoc> that might be possible, and might be possible to boot a newer kernel thats been fixed, but thats not something I have ever had to do. hang out and keep asking
[14:16] <tomreyn> SporkWitch: yes, might be. depends a lot.
[14:16] <YADW1> ben8472 about the ssh-key method you suggested me earlier, it would need me to copy ssh fingerprints from any client I want to connect from to my server, right? That's quite a downside, because I might want to reach my ssh server from about any client. What can I do for that?
[14:16] <SporkWitch> tomreyn: current hardware supports it; it's been several years since it was lacking in anything but the really low-end mobos and cpus
[14:17] <macuserman> oddly enough I successfully installed 18.04 on an older mac than the one I am currently trying to make work...
[14:17] <SporkWitch> YADW1: you can put the privkey on a flashdrive if you like
[14:18] <YADW1> SporkWitch that's smart, I didn't think of that. Thank you. I still wish there was a way to login with a password different from my user pass.
[14:18] <SporkWitch> YADW1: though if you want to be able to connect from arbitrary hosts without separate keys per host, i would recommend investing in something like a yubikey
[14:18] <xLhemux> hmm
[14:19] <SporkWitch> YADW1: there are many ways to achieve that, but key-based auth is generally preferable
[14:19] <SporkWitch> YADW1: if you want extra points, you can set up a LUKS container on the flash drive, though this will preclude use in windows
[14:20] <YADW1> SporkWitch why not both a key AND a pass? :D It actually would be terrible to store an authorized key on some random machine that then could log into the server at will
[14:21] <SporkWitch> YADW1: it's possible to set that up as well
[14:21] <SporkWitch> YADW1: and that's why you set a passphrase on the key...
[14:23] <YADW1> Shoot, I feel such a newbie. (Which I probably am anyway, but one moment ago I wasn't thinking about it and my whole life felt so much better. :P)
[14:24] <nik_> any ubuntu software to connect digital camera to computer by usb cable to act as webcam ? does VLC or OBS help in doing that ?? if yes HOW ?
[14:26] <nik_> alternative to digitalcamcontrol for ubuntu ?
[14:27] <SporkWitch> nik_: that will typically depend on the camera, not just software.  not all digital cameras support acting as a webcam
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> nik_  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntustudio, a multimedia dedicated channel
[14:28] <macuserman> thx for helps compdoc I will probably tinker around
[14:29] <nik_> monkeydust sporkwitch thanks
[14:29] <SporkWitch> YADW1: assuming you set up your ssh keys already, then yes, you should feel a little silly, because it prompts you to set a passphrase on the key :P  as to the rest, it's rarely done outside the enterprise, and even then you're usually not doing more than tying it into LDAP
[14:30] <SporkWitch> so no shame in not knowing about the rest
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> nik_  in a terminal, type   apt-cache entangle
[14:31] <nik_> does vlc or OBS detect any digital camera ?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> apt-cache show entangle*
[14:33] <nik_> monkeydust thanks i think that will work
[14:56] <kristenbb> hello, can i upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04?
[14:57] <kristenbb> hello, can anyone read me? it seems i can't read anyone...
[14:58] <CookieM> if I were you, I wouldn’t
[14:59] <CookieM> 16.04 is supported till 2021, so why doing it and have an additional headache?
[15:00] <CookieM> upgrading is NOT a straightforward process and usually many glitches occur, making using upgraded system unusable
[15:01] <tomreyn> kristenbb: upgrades usually work fine on supported upgrade paths. upgrading 16.04 to 18.04 is not supported, yet, as discussed in the 18.04 release notes
[15:03] <ppf> how can i hook into a ipv6 prefix change?
[15:03] <transhuman> Hi! I am wondering what the effect of downgrading ubuntu 18.04 root / partition to ubuntu 17.04 (and leaving the /home partition as is)
[15:04] <tomreyn> !downgrade | transhuman
[15:05] <transhuman> tomreyn, even if I reinstall all but the home parition?
[15:05] <tomreyn> transhuman: what you can do is install 16.04, keeping a separate /home if you had that separate already
[15:05] <transhuman> not going to work
[15:05] <transhuman> but thanks, you see I am screwed because nvidia 304 driver is no longer available
[15:05] <tomreyn> you may need to clean up some files in your home directory to be able to login graphically as this user
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> transhuman  and 17.04 is !eol
[15:06] <transhuman> oh I see what yoru saying
[15:06] <tomreyn> oh, nvidia, i'm not so much into that
[15:06] <transhuman> yeah eol but they should still keep maintaining the video drivers in myho
[15:07] <tomreyn> since these drivers are proprietary, there is not a lot canonical / ubuntu can do about it
[15:09] <transhuman> I understand, some day I will create a better video company, as soon as I get rich
[15:10] <transhuman> have to win the big one first though
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> transhuman  or buy out existing video companies
[15:10] <transhuman> yeah maybe a better idea actually
[15:12] <transhuman> I am going to have to buy an new power supply to get my other video cards working, this one is missing the cables, since it has issues its probably not worth buying the cables for it
[15:16] <matjam> morning peeps
[15:16] <transhuman> anyone able to suggest what they think is slowing down the boot of this system ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mxtd5dJqbn/
[15:18] <aperson123456> think i found a bug
[15:18] <transhuman> I notice gnome-shell is taking lots of resources (thought this issue was resolved
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> !bug| aperson123456
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> transhuman  in a terminal, type      systemd-analyze blame
[15:20] <transhuman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hP8drh3nv9/
[15:20] <transhuman> already tried running fsck on the disc from live cd
[15:20] <aperson123456> MonkeyDust, yeah.. looks complicated. im gonna put it on my to do list.
[15:21] <transhuman> no errors reported
[15:22] <ioria> transhuman, restart gnome-shell  : alt + F2 ; r; enter
[15:22] <transhuman> yeah it runs fine once booted
[15:22] <matjam> anyone using Ubuntu MATE 18.04 able to get the worskpace switching effects to work?
[15:22] <transhuman> the gnome shell issue was supposed to be resolved (at least upstream) not sure if that fix has made it) do you think this is what is slowing down boot??
[15:23] <ioria> transhuman, the boot ? nop
[15:23] <transhuman> I thought not
[15:23] <aperson123456> anyways, in case i never get around to filing a report:  network manager reports (most) ethernet cables 10 Mbs when cable is initially plugged in to the computer nic after connecting to switch. Pulling out the cable, waiting 5 sec and plugging it back in results in nm correctly setting the connection to 1GBs.
[15:23] <ioria> transhuman, you said 'gnome-shell is taking lots of resources '
[15:23] <transhuman> well on that note is the fix for gnome-shell memory leak in 18.04 now?
[15:24] <ioria> transhuman, nope
[15:24] <transhuman> any idea when?
[15:24] <ioria> transhuman, nope
[15:24] <transhuman> its in the works though right? they have found the bug  from what i understand, is this correct?
[15:25] <transhuman> its in lots of distributions
[15:25] <ioria> transhuman, work in progress
[15:26] <transhuman> ok, thanks ,what about the slow boot issue, this is whats really killing me since I have 24 gig of ram
[15:27] <ioria> transhuman,  systemd-analyze| awk '{print $10}'
[15:28] <transhuman> that doesn't work but if i change the $10 to a $7 it shows userspace
[15:29] <ioria> transhuman,  systemd-analyze
[15:29] <aperson123456> transhuman, 10 bucks won't get you root in this day and age
[15:29] <aperson123456> transhuman, 7*
[15:30] <tomreyn> aperson123456: no one will act upon your report on irc. unless you'll report a bug (after verifying it is not just an issue with your system and someone else did not already report the same issue) nothing will change as a result of your report here.
[15:30] <transhuman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hP8drh3nv9/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mxtd5dJqbn/ yeah I already posted those but it seems even though the hard drive is the top user of resources it shows no errors
[15:31] <aperson123456> tomreyn, I know.
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: i have an active systemd bug, if you want subscribe to it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1742063
[15:32] <transhuman> ah a systemd bug ok
[15:33] <transhuman> yeah I will subscribe to it
[15:33] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: if that fits your issue..
[15:35] <elim_garak> does anyone here manage or help admin the ubuntu bugs mailing list
[15:35] <elim_garak> ive subscribed but never get the email notification to accept
[15:37] <matjam> yeah I doubt we can help you with that
[15:37] <matjam> but I assume you checked your spam folder
[15:37] <elim_garak> yeah
[15:37] <elim_garak> and junk and all that
[15:38] <matjam> you could email postmaster@ but I have no idea if a human actually reads that email
[15:39] <goim22> hello. i've just burned ubuntu 18.04 and booted into it off usb to try to recover a deleted partition. when i run gparted and try to access the data recovery option, it says i need to install gpart. when i try to install gpart it says there is no installation candidate - https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/NmXYBCz52T/ any ideas what i can?
[15:39] <goim22> i can do*?
[15:40] <transhuman> hybred 1tb hard drives are around $110 bucks now, are they worth it? (personally never owned one and have only worked with full ssd drives) any opinions?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | goim22
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> transhuman: ##hardware for such questions
[15:41] <transhuman> ok
[15:41] <goim22> lotuspsychje: i already know this, what's the relevance?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> goim22: you typed gpart
[15:42] <goim22> lotuspsychje: yes?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> goim22: its called gpartED
[15:43] <goim22> lotuspsychje: when you run gpartED and try to do a data recovery it tries to run gpart
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> goim22: try photorec on the testdisk package to recover data
[15:45] <matjam> there is a gpart and a gparted
[15:45] <matjam> just to be confusing
[15:45] <matjam> you want to use gparted
[15:46] <matjam> gparted should be installed by default in the USB image
[15:50] <ioria> goim22,  apt-cache policy gpart
[15:50] <eelstrebor_> got rolled back to 16.04 since i had a few problems with 18.04
[15:51] <ioria> goim22,  maybe you need to enable universe and run apt update
[15:52] <matjam> oh, I misread.
[16:00] <guardian> hello
[16:00] <guardian> I'm used to monitor /etc with etckeeper with Debian. Lately I installed 18.04 and I see content of /etc/apparmor.d and /etc/systemd keeps changing boot after boot
[16:00] <guardian> what gives?
[16:03] <matjam> guardian: I'd file a bug with the maintainers
[16:04] <matjam> thats not what I'd expect
[16:04] <matjam> ubuntu-bug systemd
[16:04] <guardian> ok will take a chance
[16:05] <leftyfb> guardian: what changes exactly? Both of those are pretty dynamic. I wouldn't think it out of the ordinary for them to change their files on boot
[16:05] <matjam> leftyfb: not in /etc
[16:05] <matjam> in /var maybe
[16:06] <leftyfb> depends on what changes
[16:06] <leftyfb> it might be by design
[16:06] <matjam> right, would still consider it a bug
[16:06] <leftyfb> guardian: what files change exactly?
[16:06] <matjam> it breaks the LSB model.
[16:07] <leftyfb> matjam: well, considering /etc/apache2/logs is by default logs for apache, and those are obviously always changing
[16:07] <matjam> isn't that a symlink to /var/log/apache
[16:07] <matjam> because I'd be super surprised if apache2 logs into /etc
[16:07] <leftyfb> it is once I configure it to be on every install :)
[16:07] <matjam> yeah, thats
[16:08] <matjam> thats you doing that, not apache by default
[16:08] <guardian> so after having rebooted I have /etc/apparmor.d/snap.core.4486.usr.lib.snapd.snap-continue that's deleted
[16:08] <leftyfb> see
[16:09] <leftyfb> that's normal
[16:09] <guardian> /etc/apparmor.d/snap.core.4571.usr.lib.snapd.snap-confline that's untracked
[16:09] <guardian> as well as a bunch of other files
[16:09] <leftyfb> matjam: and I think you misunderstood. /etc/apache/logs is NOT a link to /var/log/apache2 by default. It's only /etc/apache/logs which I then make into a link every time I install apache on ubuntu.
[16:10] <matjam> the apache2 package does not create an /etc/apache/logs directory
[16:10] <guardian> I for sure didn't expect /etc changing "constantly" without me adding or removing packages
[16:10] <guardian> or enabling/disabling systemd services
[16:10] <matjam> well, snaps are weird
[16:10] <guardian> I don't even know what they are
[16:10] <guardian> I usually don't use Ubuntu
[16:11] <matjam> its a way of installing applications with all their dependencies in a chroot
[16:11] <matjam> is this on a server?
[16:11] <guardian> in that respect I have another Ubuntu beginner question. When I browse files, I can go to "Other Locations". And there I see drives and partitions which I can navigate with the GUI file browser
[16:11] <guardian> but when I do so, where are the partitions mounted?
[16:11] <matjam> its mounted under gvfs which is a user space thing
[16:11] <guardian> it's Ubuntu Desktop 18.04, fresh install
[16:12] <guardian> is there an overhead going through gvfs? because for sure I'll access these partitions frequently
[16:12] <guardian> it seems I'm better off editing fstab accordingly
[16:13] <matjam> guardian: seems fine to me but I mount my NAS in /etc/fstab anyway
[16:13] <aperson123456> guardian, they should mount under /media/USERNAME/MEDIANAME
[16:13] <uruwi_> xorg is driving me crazy
[16:13] <aperson123456> guardian, unless you set them to automount then they are mounted under /mnt/
[16:14] <matjam> aperson123456: not smb mounts etc
[16:14] <guardian> aperson123456: thank you
[16:14] <aperson123456> matjam, guardian right ok - talking about usb mounts.
[16:15] <guardian> it's not even USB in my case
[16:15] <guardian> just other drives in the box
[16:15] <uruwi_> I've been trying to set up things to use my nVidia card on my laptop this whole weekend and now I'm here after having purged nvidia drivers: https://gist.github.com/bluebear94/0c40f0c47c8943f399f3453cbf2b4531
[16:15] <Butterfly_> ::  ^ TITLE ^ : gist:0c40f0c47c8943f399f3453cbf2b4531 · GitHub
[16:15] <matjam> heh I can't even foudn the gvfs mount point for mine lol
[16:15] <aperson123456> matjam, guardian and scsci+ata
[16:15] <Ben64> Butterfly_: you should turn that off
[16:15] <Butterfly_> woops
[16:15] <matjam> uruwi_: is it a multi-gpu laptop?
[16:15] <Butterfly_> let me fix that
[16:15] <uruwi_> /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so is a symlink to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so.390.59 which doesn't exist
[16:15] <uruwi_> matjam: yep
[16:16] <guardian> I find it funny automount mounts in /mnt while /mnt is defined as "temporarily mounted filesystems"
[16:16] <YADW1> SporkWitch Hey there, it's still me, the ssh n00b. I generated a key from another device of mine, which does not support ssh-copy-id, so I had to manually copy both files to my server machine. Guess what? Randomarts don't match! Somebody kill me please :D
[16:16] <guardian> looks like nobody can settle on FHS
[16:16] <Butterfly_> Ben64 : it should not have displayed in this channel, let me fix that, but it might take some minutes :)
[16:16] <uruwi_> I've asked on AskUbuntu but didn't get any useful answers
[16:16] <matjam> uruwi_: so you purged the nvidia binary driver
[16:16] <uruwi_> I'm probably going to end up using bbswitch
[16:16] <matjam> uruwi_: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[16:16] <uruwi_> matjam: let me double check
[16:16] <aperson123456> guardian, I guess someone decided that harddisks should not be mixed with removable media
[16:16] <anddam> hello, is there an official upgrade guide from a 16.04 to 18.04?
[16:17] <uruwi_> dpkg -l | grep nvidia gives nothing
[16:17] <uruwi_> matjam: no xorg.conf
[16:17] <SporkWitch> YADW1: i never use copyid.  scp ~/.ssh/idrsa.pub user@host:~/ then on the server, cat idrsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[16:17] <Ben64> Butterfly_: cool, just a friendly reminder, stuff like that could end with you making ops angry :)
[16:17] <matjam> anddam: nope, as it's not officially recommended yet. However you can use do-release-upgrade
[16:17] <SporkWitch> YADW1: the DOUBLE >> is important, as it means append, rather than overwrite
[16:17] <leftyfb> anddam: there will be in July when 18.04 hits 18.04.1
[16:18] <matjam> uruwi_: did you use this guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#SLI_.2F_Multi-GPU
[16:18] <Butterfly_> ::  ^ TITLE ^ : BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - Community Help Wiki
[16:18] <Butterfly_> Ben64 : i just loaded the script yesterday, but altered it like 15 minutes ago, it does exactly what i want in the channel i created it for, but i seem to have done something wrong as it displays in here too
[16:18] <anddam> I'll wait, thanks
[16:18] <anddam> I don't have a strong need for the update, just powered back a small headless server after a while
[16:18] <YADW1> SporkWitch, I'll try with scp, not sure it's implemented in my other device though. As for basic bash syntax, yeah, I may be a noob, but I'm really not so desperate xD
[16:19] <anddam> what's the proper way to configure wireless and dhcp for a headless server?
[16:19] <aperson123456> on that note: anyone had success disabling removable drive automounts??
[16:19] <SporkWitch> YADW1: i wouldn't have offered the extra warning if it weren't for the fact that doing it wrong could remove your existing keys, locking you out
[16:19] <matjam> anddam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic
[16:19] <SporkWitch> YADW1: if it's a linux or unix machine, you have scp on it.  if it's windows, i recommend bitvise tunnelier
[16:20] <matjam> uruwi_: oh that might have been the wrong link
[16:20] <uruwi_> matjam: oh, that multi-gpu? I thought you referred to Optimus
[16:20]  * uruwi_ is slightly confused
[16:20] <matjam> uruwi_: I'm confused too, lol
[16:21] <YADW1> Actually it's Android, which I discovered, to my dismay, to be a lot less "linux" than I thought. Quite frustrating, tbh.
[16:21] <matjam> uruwi_: I think if you install the latest nvidia package, nvidia-485 from the cli
[16:21] <uruwi_> lspci -vnn | grep 'VGA\|3D' gives 2 lines
[16:21] <uruwi_> 485?!!
[16:21] <matjam> uruwi_: *385
[16:21] <matjam> lol
[16:21] <anddam> matjam: thanks again
[16:21] <SporkWitch> YADW1: email the pubkey to yourself, or put it on gdrive
[16:22] <anddam> I shrunk an ext4 partition with resize2fs, do I need to manually edit the FAT or is there a program that will fit the partition to the ext4 fs?
[16:22] <uruwi_> matjam: isn't it 390 or 396?
[16:22] <matjam> lsyoyom: yeah so in the nvidia-settings tool you can switch between the intel video and the nvidia chip
[16:22] <matjam> you're right, its 390
[16:23] <matjam> uruwi_: this is what I have installed https://pastebin.com/qh9WfyCB
[16:23] <uruwi_> also, this page <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation> doesn't make it clear, but if I want to use Bumblebee, should I also install nvidia-390 or nvidia-396?
[16:23] <matjam> uruwi_: er, 18.04 right?
[16:23] <uruwi_> yep
[16:24] <matjam> oh something special for optimus
[16:24] <YADW1> I used adb pull, which (in case you weren't familiar with android) is a cli utility to copy from/move to connected devices and shell interface. Basically, I just copied the generated file, which I imagine is not so different from scp-ing it or emailing it to myself...
[16:24] <matjam> that could be an older guide
[16:24] <matjam> uruwi_: I wouldn't trust that guide, its 3 years old
[16:24] <uruwi_> yeah I've experienced the issue of seeing a lot of outdated answers
[16:24] <YADW1> Just, the hashes/randomarts do not match, and I don't understand why...
[16:24] <uruwi_> What would you recommend for Optimus laptops today then
[16:25] <matjam> uruwi_: I would try using the binary drivers supplied by ubuntu
[16:25] <matjam> uruwi_: then use the nvidia-settings tool to switch GPUs
[16:25] <Adran> uruwi_: on that website it says its already built in on newer editions
[16:25] <uruwi_> I've tried doing that but I don't get anything displayed
[16:25] <matjam> uruwi_: did you try using nomodeset
[16:25] <uruwi_> matjam: I do get the login sounds, but no display
[16:26] <SporkWitch> YADW1: randomart? sounds like you're exporting it in the wrong format.  you want openssh2 format
[16:26] <uruwi_> `cat /proc/cmdline` and I should be seeing nomodeset, right?
[16:26] <matjam> yeah
[16:27] <uruwi_> because I have it set
[16:27] <matjam> you could try adding nomodeset to the end of the boot line in grub
[16:27] <matjam> ok
[16:27] <matjam> uruwi_: are you able to select the primary GPU in the bios?
[16:27] <SporkWitch> YADW1: it will look like: ssh-rsa AAAAaM43m0d56j905j00...jsi4064 some plaintext
[16:27] <uruwi_> Nope, haven't found that option in bios
[16:28] <matjam> uruwi_: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/black-screen-after-boot-on-18-04-with-nvidia/16393/18 looks relevant
[16:28] <matjam> of course thats ubuntu mate but probably applies?
[16:28] <SporkWitch> YADW1: the only parts that matter are ssh-rsa and the hash; the stuff at the end is just a comment field (some stuff uses this to label the keys, like github; others ignore it)
[16:29] <uruwi_> matjam: Seen that post
[16:29] <SporkWitch> YADW1: and it must be a single line per pubkey; ssh-rsa hash comment, all one line
[16:29] <matjam> uruwi_: are you using nouveau right now?
[16:29] <YADW1> SporkWitch Alrightey, I'll check that
[16:29] <uruwi_> hold on, let me connect from my phone so I can send messages while rebooting and such
[16:29] <uruwi_> matjam: unfortunately I'm in Cinnamon's fallback mode
[16:30] <matjam> fun times
[16:31] <matjam> uruwi_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1764005 is the relevant bug
[16:33] <uruwi_> which do you recommend: 390 or 396?
[16:33] <matjam> uruwi_: looks like you need to install nivida-prime 0.8.8
[16:33] <uruwi_> yep
[16:33] <matjam> along with the latest driver probably
[16:34] <uruwi_> I'll go with 396 then
[16:34] <yourname1> question: i have three different computer all having the same issuee..i thought it was my wireless keybard but its not.. i have to wait 10-15 seconds for my keyboard or computer to catch up?? it doesnt always get the keystrokes too.. even on wired keyboard.. why is this happening how can i fix this..
[16:34] <matjam> uruwi_: that would be your best bet I think
[16:34] <matjam> yourname1: does your wireless keyboard use a little usb dongle?
[16:35] <matjam> yourname1: I would try moving the USB wired keyboard and the dongles into different ports.
[16:35] <matjam> yourname1: also if you're plugging through a USB hub, try plugging in directly
[16:36] <yourname1> matjam: yes but i unplugged it and now on wired and still having the same issue.. i dont believe my mem or cpu is doing alot of work either
[16:36] <uruwi_> and I've got to update-initramfs -u right?
[16:36] <matjam> uruwi_: installing the package SHOULD do that for you
[16:37] <matjam> yourname1: did you try the other USB ports in the machine?
[16:37] <uruwi_> okay, about to reboot from my lappy; reach me at my phone by saying uruwi2
[16:37] <matjam> uruwi2: good luck
[16:37] <uruwi2> I wish...
[16:38] <matjam> uruwi2: if it doesn't work, I'd do a fresh install, simply because I might have messed something up with all the install/uninstall/messing with config stuff
[16:38] <yourname1> matjam: yea tried different ports and two other computers are doing the same thing
[16:38] <matjam> yourname1: are the two other computers using the same motherboard?
[16:39] <yourname1> matjam: no totally seperate machines
[16:39] <matjam> No mean, same model of motherboard
[16:39] <matjam> *I mean
[16:39] <yourname1> matjam: oh sorry no they are different aswell
[16:40] <matjam> can you do "dmesg | pastebinit"
[16:40] <yourname1> matjam: yea sure one sec
[16:40] <anddam> matjam: on a second thought, can't I just use network-manager (that I already have) to manage my system wifi setup?
[16:40] <matjam> anddam: you're talking about a server, I tend to avoid network manager on servers, but yeah you can.
[16:41] <uruwi2> okay, didn't gen an xorg.conf yet, but got a login screen
[16:41] <matjam> uruwi2: its normal to have no xorg.conf, nvidia-settings will write one though
[16:41] <uruwi2> xorg err tho
[16:41] <matjam> uruwi2: a login screen is hopeful
[16:41] <uruwi2> lemme gist it
[16:42] <matjam>  you can cat FILE | pastebinit too
[16:42] <yourname1> matjam: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ccRWNPQ69R/
[16:43] <uruwi> https://gist.github.com/bluebear94/c348a101dcb34d571f39bacbf9b5ac62
[16:43] <matjam> yourname1: looking
[16:43] <matjam> uruwi: sec
[16:43] <uruwi> note: (EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for (null): -2
[16:44] <matjam> yourname1: disconnect your phone, I think it's resetting the USB bus constantly
[16:45] <yourname1> matjam: will do and it is haha.
[16:46] <insigne> ola
[16:46] <matjam> uruwi: so it loads the driver
[16:46] <matjam> uruwi: [   102.148] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  396.24  Wed Apr 25 23:17:01 PDT 2018
[16:46] <matjam> uruwi: but then fails to detect the chip?
[16:46] <i00nsu> hi all. I am trying to understand how firejail works. It seams a very cool project, while they offer almost "most used programs profiles", in my experience, I cannot desactivate firejail to NOT use those profiles in some moment. Any ideas?
[16:46] <uruwi> Strange...
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> !es | insigne
[16:47] <insigne> hello
[16:48] <matjam> uruwi: try removing the nomodeset thing
[16:48] <matjam> and rebooting
[16:48] <matjam> !justask | insigne
[16:48] <i00nsu> insigne: ( Olá ) >> Ubuntu-br OU ubuntu-pt :D ( é tudo a mesma coisa ) >> ubottu ubuntu-es for spanish ( hola ) ;) .. is almost the same
[16:49] <insigne> tem algum br aqui?
[16:49] <i00nsu> insigne: ubuntu-br
[16:49] <insigne> ?
[16:50] <insigne> eu nao encontrei nenhum servidor ubunto-br
[16:50] <i00nsu> insigne: faz /join #ubuntu-br ( lá encontrarás mais pessoas que falam português )
[16:50] <matjam> !br | insigne
[16:50] <i00nsu> matjam: ^
[16:50] <matjam> :D
[16:50] <insigne> nao tem ninguem no servidor br
[16:50] <insigne> :(
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[16:51] <i00nsu> insigne: ( tens de entrar no canal #UBUNTU-BR  qual servidor ? ( CANAL ) tal como este canal é uma canal! :D
[16:52] <insigne> ubottu eu fiz isso mas nao tem ninguem no canal
[16:52] <i00nsu> insigne: há pouca gente, mas encontras lá pesoas!
[16:52] <insigne> i00nsu eu nao encontrei ninguem
[16:53] <i00nsu> insigne: então tenta outra vez pois há menos de 10 segundos tinha lá mais de 10 pessoas!
[16:53] <matjam> insigne:
[16:53] <matjam> você precisa ser paciente lá. Não podemos ajudá-lo em seu idioma. Desculpa!
[16:53] <uruwi2> ok moar fallback
[16:53] <matjam> uruwi2: arrrgh
[16:54] <alagabes> hey - does anyone know how ubuntu 16.04 was encrypting the hard drive? was that luks? I wrecked my hard drive yesterday by installing another OS on it and i'm trying to recover LUKS header but either all copies of header have been overwritten or that wasn't luks in the first place
[16:54] <insigne> ta vou tentar digitar  de novo "/join ubunto-br"
[16:54] <uruwi2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FCzyvGJycb
[16:55] <i00nsu> insigne: Tenta lá pedir ajuda lá no canal para separar as águas >> lingua >> SEM as " << ASPAS " e ubuntu-br ( substitui o O por U
[16:55] <uruwi2> basically the same
[16:55] <i00nsu> insigne: Estou à espara! :D
[16:55] <insigne> pronto achei o canal
[16:55] <insigne> obrigado pela ajuda
[16:56] <matjam> uruwi2: did you install that prime package?
[16:56] <matjam> uruwi2: nvidia-prime
[16:56] <uruwi2> dpkg -l shows it
[16:56] <uruwi2> ii in the first column = installed?
[16:56] <matjam> what happens when you run nvidia-settings in fallback mode
[16:57] <matjam> yeah
[16:57] <uruwi2> unable to load info from any available system
[16:58] <uruwi2> that was the message
[16:59] <matjam> yeah
[16:59] <matjam> figured
[16:59] <matjam> uruwi2: so, I would give bumblebee a go. There looks like active users and developers on that project.
[16:59] <matjam> but
[16:59] <matjam> uruwi2: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/951
[17:00] <matjam> uruwi2: I'd give it a try, if only out of desparation
[17:04] <uruwi2> reboot
[17:05] <vavkamil> hello
[17:06] <vavkamil> is anyone experiencing problems with spotify on 18.04?
[17:07] <uruwi2> argh another fallback
[17:07] <matjam> uruwi2: :-(
[17:07] <uruwi2> this time it can't find /dev/dri/card0
[17:08] <uruwi2> I think I set it up wrong
[17:08] <matjam> uruwi2: maybe do a fresh install and do it from scratch
[17:08] <uruwi2> think I need to purge nvidia drivers and bumblebee, reboot, then install bumblebee
[17:08] <matjam> just in case something you did in earlier attempts screwed something up
[17:08] <matjam> maybe
[17:09] <someone_> Hi , How I can install wine fully , I mean I want install all available libraries and addons .
[17:09] <i00nsu> someone_: You need to use universe / restricted
[17:09] <ioria> uruwi2, why bumblebee ? prime not working ?
[17:10] <someone_> i00nsu How ?
[17:10] <i00nsu> another question: what is pep-json-serv?
[17:10] <matjam> ioria: if you know how to get the optimus thing working it would help, I've been struggling
[17:10] <i00nsu> someone_: vim /etc/apt/sources.list << un-comment lines
[17:10] <ioria> uruwi2, dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[17:10] <vavkamil> optimus and bumblebee? who is naming these things
[17:11] <uruwi2> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pfkk38tvPt
[17:11] <Butterfly_> ::  ^ TITLE ^ : Ubuntu Pastebin
[17:12] <ioria> uruwi2, 1) what's your card 2) nouveau was working ?
[17:12] <i00nsu> Why I have a pep-json-serv running without using an app for it ?
[17:13] <uruwi> sorry I think I fat fingered on my phone
[17:13] <uruwi> GeForce 930M
[17:13] <Butterfly_> grmbl
[17:13] <ioria> uruwi2,  nouveau was working ?
[17:14] <uruwi> I used i915 before this whole ordeal
[17:14] <ioria> uruwi2,  ok,i see nvidia-driver-396  ... you add the ppa ?
[17:15] <uruwi> yep
[17:15] <ioria> uruwi2,  ppa:graphics-drivers ?
[17:15] <uruwi> I think that was it
[17:15] <ioria> uruwi2,  ok, can you paste   ubuntu-drivers list
[17:15] <someone_> i00nsu Thank you.
[17:16] <uruwi> nvidia-driver-396 nvidia-driver-390
[17:16] <nightOwlHash> so did ubuntu 18 drop support for adding system tray icons? im trying to do it in java, but i keep getting operation not supported
[17:17] <ioria> uruwi2,  ok,   sudo apt purge nvidia*    (note the *)
[17:18] <uruwi> that doesn't purge anything
[17:18] <uruwi> I've been using:
[17:19] <ioria> uruwi2,  what ?
[17:19] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know why krita 4.0.3 opens twice on the dock?
[17:19] <uruwi> dpkg -l | grep nvidia | awk ' { print $2; } ' | xargs sudo apt -y purge
[17:19] <ioria> uruwi2,  why ?
[17:20] <ioria> uruwi2,  please again:     sudo apt purge nvidia*
[17:20] <uruwi> sudo apt purge nvidia* doesn't work because nvidia-modprobe isn't even installed
[17:21] <uruwi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mGy2MpfvVx
[17:21] <i00nsu> does bionic comes with super hiden services that open without permission? I mean.. this is a clean installation.. why I have services and projects that are not Installed !? ipsec too??? :o
[17:23] <i00nsu> charon? what service is this?
[17:24] <ioria> uruwi2, dpkg -l | grep nvidia   now ?
[17:24] <uruwi> same
[17:24] <uruwi> I'm going to use that fancy command now
[17:24] <ioria> uruwi, that's not normal ...
[17:27] <i00nsu> ok.. solved ..it was strongswan
[17:27] <ioria> uruwi, use the cmd you used before and check again  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[17:27] <uruwi> now it's empty
[17:27] <ioria> uruwi, purge bumblebee
[17:28] <uruwi> done
[17:28] <ioria> uruwi,  autoremove
[17:29] <uruwi> done again
[17:29] <ioria> uruwi,  dpkg -l | grep nvidia  empty ?
[17:29] <uruwi> yep
[17:30] <ioria> uruwi,  dmesg | grep Kernel
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: best way is to ask your specific issue to the channel
[17:31] <uruwi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NgfDvGNfYS
[17:31] <ioria> uruwi,  you removed  ' quiet splash' ?
[17:32] <uruwi> yes
[17:32] <uruwi> I prefer not to have them
[17:32] <ioria> uruwi,  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade   (check errors, if any)
[17:33] <ioria> uruwi,  you're not using wayland, right ?
[17:33] <uruwi> nope
[17:33] <ioria> ok
[17:33] <CookieM> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5IJ1Y2TVns
[17:34] <uruwi> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6b3Rr3cC5M
[17:34] <vavkamil> lotuspsychje, I don't know, gimp and spotify from snap is broken
[17:34] <CookieM> wrong channel, sorry for that
[17:34] <ioria> uruwi,  so, bumblebee from ppa,not from off repo ?
[17:35] <uruwi> yes
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: for snaps, try to contact the maintainer of the snap
[17:35] <uruwi> should I remove it?
[17:36] <ioria> uruwi,  well,  you can remove that ppa, it's not updated to bionic
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: does it give you errors of any kind on launch?
[17:37] <ioria> uruwi,  and reboot
[17:39] <quickrick> i am having trouble getting my second display to work with anything other than 1024x768
[17:39] <quickrick> its a TV, pretty sure it should be 1360x768
[17:39] <quickrick> trying to add a custom resolution with xrandr isn't working in 18.04
[17:40] <vavkamil> lotuspsychje, https://community.spotify.com/t5/Desktop-Linux/Spotify-snap-doesn-t-launch/td-p/4008186 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1757284
[17:40] <uruwi> done
[17:41] <ioria> uruwi,  apt full-upgrade is '0'  ?
[17:41] <uruwi> logging in results in fallback
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | rui
[17:41] <uruwi> yeah, it worked
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: bug shows incomplete
[17:42] <ioria> uruwi,  rebooted ?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: also for snap packages, i think its better to contact the maintainer instead of ubuntu bugs
[17:43] <uruwi> yes
[17:43] <ioria> uruwi,  and ?
[17:43] <uruwi> cinnamon had to fall back
[17:44] <ioria> uruwi,  sudo lshw -C video
[17:45] <uruwi_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9dZJHwQshj/
[17:45] <uruwi_> ^ ioria
[17:45] <uruwi_> Hmm, unclaimed...
[17:46] <ioria> uruwi_, yesboth incredible
[17:46] <ioria> uruwi_, sudo apt install linux-generic
[17:46] <uruwi_> ioria: already the newest version
[17:46] <ioria> uruwi_, sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic
[17:47] <uruwi_> ioria: done
[17:48] <ioria> uruwi_, what is really weird is that also intel is broken
[17:48] <ioria> uruwi_,   cat /etc/default/grub
[17:49] <uruwi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hyRqsDDVX3/
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> vavkamil: snap info spotify?
[17:51] <uruwi_> got that ioria?
[17:51] <ioria> uruwi_,  yes.... sudo update-grub and reboot
[17:52] <uruwi> done
[17:52] <uruwi> rebooting
[17:54] <uruwi> rebb
[17:54] <uruwi> reboot done, cinnamon falls back again
[17:55] <ioria> uruwi_,  video cars stillUNCLAIMED ?
[17:55] <ioria> *cards
[17:55] <uruwi> yes
[17:56] <uruwi_> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nnfhC7vmF7/ is the Xorg.0.log
[17:56] <ioria> uruwi_,  did you blacklist intel (i915) ?
[17:56] <quickrick> is there a better way to get a custom 1360x768 display in 18.04?
[17:57] <uruwi> yeah, install i915 false
[17:57] <uruwi> commented that out
[17:57] <uruwi> reboot?
[17:58] <ioria> uruwi_,  what is i915 false ?
[17:58] <uruwi> I think that's the culprit
[17:58] <ioria> uruwi_,  what is i915 false ?
[17:58] <uruwi> rebooting again
[18:02] <uruwi> lshw -C video lists the first as claimed now
[18:02] <ioria> uruwi_,  paste, please
[18:03] <uruwi_> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P875H3T35Y/
[18:03] <ioria> uruwi_,  did you blacklist nouveau as well ?
[18:03] <quickrick> ok i got it
[18:03] <quickrick> thanks
[18:03] <uruwi_> ioria: Xorg.0.log is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6nQtc76RMF/
[18:03] <quickrick> xrandr works the same i guess
[18:04] <uruwi_> noveau is blacklisted
[18:04] <quickrick> i dont like the new cartoons
[18:04] <quickrick> i hate when you change all the cartoons
[18:04] <ioria> uruwi_,  why ?ù
[18:04] <uruwi_> and /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so is a dangling symlink
[18:04] <uruwi_> because I was trying to use the nvidia drivers
[18:06] <ioria> uruwi_, should not be blalisted now
[18:06] <ioria> uruwi_, you manually did that ?
[18:07] <uruwi_> ok, did `sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf.inactive`
[18:07] <uruwi_> does that unblacklist nouveau?
[18:08] <ioria> uruwi_,  there are several ways : usually is  in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf  and in /etc/modprobe.d/nouveau-kms.conf
[18:08] <uruwi_> turns out that it does since only .conf files are loaded
[18:09] <uruwi_> yeah, found another
[18:09] <ioria> uruwi_,  rm all
[18:09] <ioria> uruwi_,  after run  sudo update-initramfs -u
[18:10] <uruwi_> done
[18:10] <ioria> uruwi_,  did you do something else ?
[18:10] <uruwi_> nope
[18:10] <ioria> uruwi_,  reboot
[18:10] <uruwi_> rebooting!
[18:12] <n00bUNTU> I just followed this tutorial... https://www.howtogeek.com/242045/HOW-TO-GET-THE-LATEST-NVIDIA-AMD-OR-INTEL-GRAPHICS-DRIVERS-ON-UBUNTU/
[18:13] <n00bUNTU> to update my driver, and walked away. when i returned, my laptop was in a sleep mode (what's it called on Linux?)
[18:13] <uruwi> fallback again
[18:13] <n00bUNTU> anyway... I'm afraid it didn't complete. and now I'm concerned it will cause problems.
[18:13] <n00bUNTU> PLZ HALP
[18:13] <n00bUNTU> :D
[18:14] <uruwi> both are claimed now in lshw
[18:14] <uruwi> but still have the failed to load libglx.so error
[18:15] <YADW1> 'Ello once more, this time I hope for good... ^^'
[18:15] <YADW1> After setting a ssh server, I'm trying to link my dynamic ip to a dynamic dns service (the one I use is dnsdynamic), and I have installed and properly (I guess?) configured ddclient. But noooo, of course something HAD to be broken, right? For some reason the dynamic dns isn't updating. Why me, sweet lord, why me.
[18:17] <SporkWitch> YADW1: is it not updating, or has the TTL just not expired?
[18:18] <ioria> uruwi_,  apt install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core
[18:18] <uruwi> done
[18:19] <uruwi_> but /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/nvidia/libglx.so is still a dangling symlink
[18:19] <ioria> uruwi_,  can you paste  lsmod
[18:19] <uruwi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WQZcz7qH4T/
[18:20] <YADW1> SporkWitch I don't know, how can I check if the TTL is still live?
[18:21] <ioria> uruwi_,  i think that nvidia (and maybe bumblebee) are not completely purged
[18:22] <ioria> uruwi_,  did you also tried the nvidia installer from their website ?
[18:22] <uruwi_> Yeah but it turns out that it doesn't work well
[18:22] <ioria> uruwi_,  .....
[18:23] <ioria> uruwi_,  cd in the installer folder
[18:23] <uruwi_> mmhmm
[18:24] <uruwi_> hold on, let me restart lightdm
[18:25] <uruwi> Woo, no fallback!
[18:30] <uruwi_> okay, what's the best way today to be able to use my dGPU on an Optimus machine?
[18:30] <uruwi_> I kind of don't want to spoon this up after I've done so much work to get it to where I was before this whole ordeal
[18:32]  * matjam gives ioria a gold star
[18:32] <ioria> uruwi_,  matjam   (lol)    wait... did you  --unistall the nvidia .run ?
[18:32] <uruwi_> yeah, I did --uninstall that
[18:33] <matjam> tsk uruwi_ you gotta tell people when you install stuff like that :P
[18:33] <ioria> uruwi_, ok, can you reboot to recheck the Xorg.0.conf again ?
[18:33] <uruwi_> ._.
[18:34] <n00bUNTU> looking for some help. completely new to ubuntu. attempted to update video card drivers. left, and laptop went into sleep mode.
[18:34] <n00bUNTU> or... locked out.
[18:34] <n00bUNTU> pls advise
[18:35] <matjam> n00bUNTU: does not wake when pressing a key, I presume
[18:35] <ioria> uruwi_, to answer your question : is nvidia-prime
[18:36] <n00bUNTU> no it's fine.
[18:36] <n00bUNTU> matjam... what I'm saying is, I went out for a smoke.
[18:36] <n00bUNTU> and I don't think it completed the task
[18:36] <matjam> n00bUNTU: it will be fine if it was halfway through, sleept, and then you woke it up.
[18:37] <matjam> n00bUNTU: the only issue would be is if you reset the machine while it was asleep
[18:38] <matjam> n00bUNTU: if you do "ubuntu-drivers devices" whats the output?
[18:38] <matjam> n00bUNTU: you can do a "ubuntu-drivers devices | pastebinit"
[18:38] <matjam> and paste the link
[18:39] <hal9000> anyone know how to change catfish search default search path?
[18:40] <hal9000> i swore there was an easy way to do it but search fails me
[18:42] <hal9000> nevermind...http://hawramani.com/setting-the-default-search-path-for-catfish-file-search/
[18:42] <uruwi_> matjam: thanks to ioria's help, I've gotten my computer to where it was before I started trying to install the nvidia driver
[18:43] <uruwi_> now I've got to figure out how to get it to switch to the nvidia driver without spooning things up
[18:43] <n00bUNTU> matjam I'll try it now
[18:44] <n00bUNTU> matjam i have to install pastebinit first
[18:45] <SporkWitch> n00bUNTU: somecommand | nc termbin.net 9999
[18:45] <n00bUNTU> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pz8xxJrr7b/
[18:47] <n00bUNTU> matjam http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pz8xxJrr7b/
[18:48] <matjam> n00bUNTU: its installed, should be good to go.
[18:48] <n00bUNTU> will i need to restart?
[18:50] <matjam> n00bUNTU: yes, you need to restart after installing binary video drivers
[18:51] <n00bUNTU> matjam TY. maybe I'll be able to watch videos in teh facebook noa
[18:51] <n00bUNTU> *nao
[19:10] <n00bUNT0Rx> matjam thank you.
[19:11] <n00bUNT0Rx> ok new Question
[19:11] <n00bUNT0Rx> This laptop came with windows 10 presintalled. The sound came out pretty loud, and sounded NICE. after I formatted and installed ubuntu, it seems like my sound has gone rather quiet
[19:12] <samj426> Hey all. I need help with getting my screen to flip back to its normal state. I am running Ubuntu on HP ProBook 450 G5
[19:12] <samj426> Any help is appreciated
[19:12] <n00bUNT0Rx> I've enabled boosting the audio beyond 100 for now. But would like to know if there is a better fix.
[19:15] <tomreyn> samj426: flip back, as in hardware?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> samj426  start from the beginning, what happened
[19:15] <ELQEYNN> humanitytoward each other ... That sounds pretty profound.
[19:15] <samj426> My entire screen is upside down.
[19:15] <ELQEYNN> humanity toward each other ... That sounds pretty profound.
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> ELQEYNN  this is the ubuntu support channel
[19:16] <samj426> I just installed it on an empty partition and went to go click on firefox and when i did it flipped my entire screen upside down
[19:17] <ELQEYNN> What's the package manager called?
[19:17] <ylikowski> samj426: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1002472/keyboard-shortcut-for-rotating-ubuntu-17-10-screen ?maybe?
[19:17] <tomreyn> ELQEYNN: apt
[19:17] <samj426> Im new to this whole thing. What do you mean package manager
[19:18] <tomreyn> samj426: i think ELQEYNN wasn't talking to you specifically
[19:20] <uruwi_> okay, now I've installed bumblebee
[19:20] <samj426> okay
[19:20] <ylikowski> samj426: https://askubuntu.com/questions/968169/screen-randomly-rotates-on-ubuntu-17-10 There's another discussion on the subject
[19:20] <uruwi_> glsanity says that the nvidia drivers are loaded properly, but the problem is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2yvsRpM8VM/
[19:22] <samj426> uruwi what is that
[19:22] <samj426> All i see is a bunch of text
[19:22] <n00bUNT0Rx> can someone help me sort out an audio issue plz
[19:22] <SporkWitch> is there a CLI command i can use to verify which GPU driver is currently in-use?
[19:23] <SporkWitch> n00bUNT0Rx: If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later.
[19:23] <n00bUNT0Rx> SporkWitch i did that already
[19:23] <n00bUNT0Rx> This laptop came with windows 10 presintalled. The sound came out pretty loud, and sounded NICE. after I formatted and installed ubuntu, it seems like my sound has gone rather quiet
[19:23] <n00bUNT0Rx> I've enabled boosting the audio beyond 100 for now. But would like to know if there is a better fix.
[19:23] <SporkWitch> n00bUNT0Rx: check alsamixer
[19:24] <n00bUNT0Rx> do what?
[19:24] <n00bUNT0Rx> i dont think i follow
[19:24] <uruwi_> rebooting...
[19:24] <tomreyn> !audio | n00bUNT0Rx
[19:25] <n00bUNT0Rx> ty SporkWitch
[19:25] <tomreyn> alsamixer is a text graphics application which allows you to access and configure prettymuch all the features of your source devices.
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> n00bUNT0Rx  open a terminal and type     alsamixer
[19:26] <n00bUNT0Rx> MonkeyDust done. I see a mixer, but not sure yet how to interpret
[19:28] <uruwi_> > installed bumblebee
[19:28] <uruwi_> > cinnamon doesn't fallback
[19:28] <uruwi_> Let's try seeing how it goes
[19:29] <uruwi_> Okay, I get an error with GLX_SwapBuffers
[19:29] <uruwi_> * X_GLXSwapBuffers
[19:29] <n00bUNT0Rx> okay new question.. LOL
[19:29] <tomreyn> n00bUNT0Rx: press f6 to select the right sound card, then use cursor keys to the left and right to look fr something looking ssimilar to a radio button or tick box which allows you to activate an amplifier.
[19:30] <n00bUNT0Rx> tomreyn thank you
[19:31] <tomreyn> it may also be a slider saying 'gain' or 'amp.'
[19:32] <name> Hi! Since I switched to Ubuntu 18.04 (Gnome 3), whenever I debug a program with Qt Creator, a prompt periodically appears on the program window letting me choose if I want to force the program to quit, or let it wait. This popup also hijacks random input channels.
[19:32] <name> This means I can not navigate the code during debugging via the keyboard. I can also randomly not get to previous places I've visited in the stack, because my clicks don't do anything.
[19:33] <name> The temporary solution is to click "Wait" at the prompt and use the roughly 5 seconds time window to act until it freezes again.
[19:33] <name> Is there a way to disable this prompt and just let the window go black or whatever when the program is stopped by a debugger?
[19:35] <brainwash> name: probably a question for irc.gnome.org
[19:35] <name> brainwash: Thank you! I didn't know what component is responsible for the prompt.
[19:35] <matjam> name: could be apport
[19:36] <brainwash> name: I'd think that it's the window manager "mutter"
[19:36] <matjam> name: you might want to try disabling the apport.service in systemctl
[19:37] <name> matjam: Thanks, I'll try!
[19:37] <matjam> might want to do that anyway so its not eating your core files
[19:37] <ioria> or an heavy error in code  (very heavy)
[19:37] <name> matjam: And the constant "System Program Problem" things too, right? Been seeing those since circa 2012.
[19:38] <matjam> right, not much use for a developer
[19:38] <brainwash> "System Program Problem" would be probably apport related
[19:40] <brainwash> name: maybe this https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=737109
[19:40] <brainwash> "this" as in being related to your first problem
[19:43] <name> brainwash: no, the bug concerns unexpected behaviour on cancelling the prompt. I just don't want the prompt to lock up my input at all.
[19:43] <ioria> name,  i got that in python-gtk when i write foolish code
[19:44] <brainwash> name: right. and this report tells you where to look.
[19:44] <matjam> ioria: he's in a debugger, so the program is halted
[19:44] <matjam> so yeah its not responding to gui events
[19:45] <brainwash> name: assuming that this is hardcoded, and only a source code change can alter the behavior of the dialog
[19:45] <brainwash> including making it not appear at all
[19:46] <brainwash> but again, best to ask the gnome devs
[19:46] <brainwash> on their irc network
[19:47] <matjam> you're right, its in mutter I think, looking at the source
[19:48] <brainwash> alternatively, use a different window manager
[19:49] <brainwash> gnome3 may not support changing it though
[19:50] <matjam> so it looks like you could patch a part of mutter to do what you want but I don't see any configuration for it
[19:51] <matjam> using a different window manager might be easier
[19:52] <matjam> https://github.com/magcius/mutter/blob/rounded-aa/src/core/display.c#L4200
[19:52] <matjam> is where it does it
[19:53] <matjam> looks like lots of people would love you for making a feature :P
[19:53] <matjam> super offtopic lol
[19:57] <uruwi_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RNYpjjJrdk/ hmm, this is suspicious
[19:58] <snapdata> In gnome 3, when connecting to a VPN, the connection immediately switches off when switched on from network-manager. But running `sudo openvpn --config <same_config_file>` from the command line works perfectly
[19:58] <snapdata> Any ideas?
[19:59] <snapdata> I have tried setting the particular VPN config to always prompt for a password in network-manager, but it apparently doesn't even get to that step before failing because it switches off before prompting
[20:00] <matjam> snapdata: check /var/log/syslog, I found that for my vpn I needed to create a directory in /var somewhere for it to work
[20:00] <matjam> and it was printing an error about it
[20:01] <snapdata> matjam: thank you, I got some really weird output tho https://pastebin.com/raw/h9HwKchQ
[20:02] <name> ioria, matjam, brainwash: Thank you for the help. I might change window managers, or the complete DE. I wanted to try XFCE again. Nevertheless, I hoped there would be an easier solution. Disabling the apport service didn't work.
[20:03] <snapdata> matjam: all I'm finding about it is bugs that are 8+ years old
[20:09] <anddam> matjam: I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic  but it's a bit out of date
[20:10] <anddam> matjam: this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Configure_your_wireless_interface references /etc/init.d/wpa.sh start and stop, should I replace those with systemctl commands in /etc/network/interfaces?
[20:11] <Godel> I have a fresh installation of Ubuntu 18.04. I want to restore my files, using Deja Dup, but when I click the Restore button and indicate the location of the backup files,  the message is "Restore Failed. No backups to restore." Am I screwed?
[20:13] <_KaszpiR_> Godel probably you need to reconfigure system so that it is recognizeable as old system
[20:15] <Godel> _KaszpiR_, How? Recreate old folders?
[20:16] <lapaga> It’s saying no backup found
[20:16] <_KaszpiR_> more likely 'recreate deja dup config', something in /etc/defaults  maybe
[20:16] <pengu> Are the files on a separate hard drive?
[20:17] <pengu> I've never had good experiences with backup apps
[20:18] <pengu> I just back up files to a separate hd
[20:18] <_KaszpiR_> plain old rsync for the rescue
[20:19] <Godel> _KaszpiR_, how can I use rsync to restore deja dup files?
[20:19] <Godel> They are encrypted with GPG.
[20:20] <_KaszpiR_> Godel I have absolutely no idea
[20:20] <adhi> ubuntu!
[20:20] <Godel> Okay.
[20:20] <Godel> Do you know how to recreate the config file that you mentioned?
[20:20] <_KaszpiR_>  suggest readig through deja-dup man
[20:21] <Godel> I have a fresh installation of Ubuntu 18.04. I want to restore my files, using Deja Dup, but when I click the Restore button and indicate the location of the backup files,  the message is "Restore Failed. No backups to restore." Does anybody know how to solve this problem?
[20:26] <glitchd> looking for a bit of assistance with xscreensaver
[20:27] <pengu> I used to use xscreensaver
[20:27] <pengu> might be able to help
[20:28] <glitchd> trying to keep it active to blank screen, but also want it to reactive if i move the mouse, maybe 3-4 seconds after it detects no movement, but at the same time, i dont want it to run in a loop because it prints messages on the screen saying its already active.
[20:28] <glitchd> *reactivate
[20:28] <pengu> I see. that sounds beyond my pay grade.
[20:29] <glitchd> lol sounds like something i would say
[20:29] <glitchd> its all good, thx anyways
[20:29] <glitchd> im not even sure if its entirely possible or not
[20:29] <pengu> there's a bunch of settings in the rc file
[20:29] <pengu> if it's not there then, i dunno
[20:29] <pengu> the archwiki has an article, i think
[20:30] <glitchd> i normall use a custom script to use dkms to just power off the screen and its attached ot a keyboard shortcut. but i cant use it in the situation since the machine im using it on is a machine that i normally play music from and its attached to an lcd tv, so if i use dkms to power it off, it kills the music.
[20:31] <pengu> can u use a tablet or phone for your music?
[20:31] <adhi> Yeah, the echovirus 11 code will be injected into the population. We managed to get our hands on the code, check the NK FTP.
[20:31] <glitchd> i could, but thats not what im trying to do.
[20:32] <pengu> fair enough, i used to spend hours messing with settings in config files
[20:32] <glitchd> right on
[20:32] <pengu> like .xinitrc or the one for xterm
[20:32] <pengu> now i just run pop!_os and have learned to love all things GNOME
[20:32] <pengu> used to run slackware tho
[20:33] <glitchd> or i wonder if there is a way to surpress messages from xscreensaver so it doesnt continually notify me that the script is trying to activate xscreensaver when its already active
[20:39] <granttrec> is there any way to get an album cover veiw in rythmbox
[20:39] <nyhalcrow> no, but amarok has one
[20:40] <nyhalcrow> >>sudo apt-get install amarok
[20:41] <R0b0t1> How do I download the signed kernel source for a release?
[20:42] <anddam> I'm very confused by wireless configuration at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic , am I suposed to actually write the wpa.sh init.d on a modern (16.04) system? won't it class with the systemd unit I see already running?
[20:43] <SporkWitch> anddam: is there a reason you don't just use the GUI?
[20:46] <henaaque> i currently have windows installed on a ssd drive and all my data stored on a secondary hdd drive. i'd like to install ubuntu on this secondary drive, while keeping grub or whatever bootmanager i should use on the ssd, so i'd still benefit from fast startups on windows. is it possible? if so, how?
[20:47] <SporkWitch> sure, but you'll need some free space on the second drive to partition for linux, do your partitioning manually, then specify the existing UEFI boot partition and MBR
[20:49] <SporkWitch> alternatively, you could do it all on the HDD and just tell the computer which drive to boot from to switch between windows and linux
[20:50] <henaaque> i see...
[20:50] <henaaque> and is there an option to choose a separate uefi partition built on ubuntu installer?
[20:51] <henaaque> or should i install it normally and change it on "boot repair"?
[20:51] <SporkWitch> you can, but if you're sharing an MBR, there's no reason to.  multiple operating systems' bootloaders can share a UEFI boot partition
[20:51] <SporkWitch> if / when MSFT decides to nuke the linux stuff, it can do that regardless of where you put stuff
[20:52] <henaaque> ok
[20:52] <henaaque> thanks!
[20:54] <tomreyn> henaaque: if i really wanted multi boot (i think running vm in a VM where it cant do much harm is much better) i'd put linux on one drive and windows on the other and use the uefi on demand boot drive chooser.
[20:54] <tomreyn> aka uefi boot menu
[20:54] <syb0rg> Hi, Kubuntu live does not want to boot on my hardware, so I intend to install ubuntu server and then install kde
[20:54] <syb0rg> is there anything I should change on reconfiguring from a server to a desktop installation?
[20:54] <compdoc> thats fine
[20:55] <tomreyn> syb0rg: did you have a question there?
[20:55] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: if the one doesn't work it's unlikely the other will
[20:55] <syb0rg> sure do boss =P
[20:55] <syb0rg> I still want to try thhough
[20:55] <syb0rg> at least I can get a bootable server and check out the errors
[20:55] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: the main difference between the two is KDE and associated apps vs gnome and associated apps + canonical apps.  drivers and the other stuff that would affect hardware compatibility are the same
[20:55] <compdoc> I used to install server and then Mate on top. but now just use the minimal install of Ubuntu Mate
[20:56] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: you can do a CLI install with the kubuntu livedisk as well
[20:56] <syb0rg> SporkWitch, noted, but I kinda wanted to experiment with server edition as a base for a minimal UEFI install anyway
[20:57] <syb0rg> so I think I will try this method
[20:58] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: it's not like windows, where there are registry keys that deliberately lock out functionality based on which version you have (really based on those registry entries); all "server edition" means is default settings and bundled software
[20:58] <SporkWitch> syb0rg: you do you, i just want to make clear that you aren't really looking at the big differences it seems like you think you are
[20:58] <syb0rg> lol. I know it isn't like windows, I just wanted to make sure there were not default configurations that were sane for a server, but not a desktop
[20:59] <syb0rg> I figured this was a reasonable question to ask here while I download the server iso on my slow-ass DSL connection =P
[20:59] <SporkWitch> my condolences, i do not miss DSL
[20:59] <syb0rg> yeah it isn'
[20:59] <syb0rg> *isn't ideal
[20:59] <syb0rg> but it is cheap
[21:01] <McBoot> Hello, I am having a problem. On Ubuntu 18.04, Samba won't install from the repo. It says 'samba has no installation candidate'
[21:01] <SporkWitch> not in my experience; i've usually found it barely cheaper than cable and orders of magnitutde slower (not to mention unreliable)
[21:01] <SporkWitch> McBoot: apt search samba
[21:01] <syb0rg> yeah SporkWitch, but dem regional monopolies. It varies from location to location
[21:02] <SporkWitch> true
[21:02] <manic0o> lcd 3.5 and hdmi monitors?
[21:03] <manic0o> can you apt get nvidia x server settings?
[21:03] <McBoot> SporkWitch: I searched and a bunch of files come up, samba-libs and samba-testsuite are there but raw Samba isn't.
[21:03] <SporkWitch> McBoot: read the descriptions to find the main one that installs what you're looking for
[21:04] <SporkWitch> package names change from time to time
[21:08] <McBoot> SporkWitch: I see, thank you. I am unsure which based on these descriptions. I have a PS2 connected via crossfeed and want that ethernet cable to share files to it.
[21:09] <McBoot> SporkWitch: Ah, got it. Thank you so much!
[21:10] <Guest19191> quit
[21:11] <ylikowski> McBoot:
[21:11] <ylikowski> smbc/bionic 1.2.2-4build2 amd64
[21:11] <ylikowski>   samba-commander - curses based samba network browser
[21:12] <tomreyn> that's not the smb daemon
[21:12] <ylikowski> smbc?
[21:13] <ylikowski> yep, sorry, the wrong package
[21:13] <ylikowski> samba/bionic 2:4.7.6+dfsg~ubuntu-0ubuntu2 amd64
[21:13] <ylikowski>   SMB/CIFS file, print, and login server for Unix
[21:13] <ylikowski> That's the one
[21:14] <McBoot> Odd it doesn't show up.
[21:14] <ylikowski> failed copy/paste
[21:14] <ylikowski> search with smb
[21:14] <McBoot> Okay
[21:15] <McBoot> Still doesn't show :/
[21:17] <ylikowski> McBoot: done sudo apt-get update?
[21:17] <McBoot> ylikowski: Yeah, including autoremove samba in case
[21:18] <SporkWitch> McBoot: PS2 as in playstation 2?  Have you thought about using Plex or something else that supports DLNA?
[21:19] <McBoot> SporkWitch: I haven't, I know that Open PS2 Loader uses SMB.
[21:19] <McBoot> shooot I gotta head to work. Thank you all for the help.
[21:19] <SporkWitch> though i don't recall PS2 supporting much of anything... PS3 definitely, and i believe PS4 as well, support DLNA
[21:19] <SporkWitch> SMB is always a nightmare
[21:20] <McBoot> SporkWitch: Good to know ^^
[21:21] <SporkWitch> McBoot: sorry, i know it's not the answer you wanted, i was just seeing if there were easier alternatives available
[21:21] <SporkWitch> McBoot: literally anything is less headache than samba, especially if you want auth with it
[21:22] <Freekid> hello
[21:22] <Freekid> my fello
[21:27] <R13ose>  I am getting this error when I test disc for defects on live usb: check finished: errors found in 2 files.  How do I fix this?
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  depends on the type on errors
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> of*
[21:29] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: how do I know the errors?
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  how did you test the disc?
[21:31] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: From the live usb, there is an option in the menu that comes up.
[21:35] <hellyeah> hey
[21:36] <hellyeah> have a question
[21:36] <hellyeah> i try to boot ubuntu from usb
[21:36] <hellyeah> i installed ubuntu to the usb driver
[21:36] <hellyeah> when i try to boot it i couldnt do that
[21:36] <hellyeah> why did that happen?
[21:36] <hellyeah> i couldnt start ubuntu from usb
[21:37] <hellyeah> but i need to work with ubuntu from usb
[21:37] <hellyeah> pls tell me something about it
[21:38] <xar-> !enter
[21:38] <hellyeah> do i have to compose /boot myself?
[21:39] <hellyeah> because ubuntu cannot be boot i mean grub didnt come
[21:39] <SporkWitch> hellyeah: 1) use your punctuation, not the enter key, 2) assuming you built the drive correctly, make sure USB boot is supported and enabled in your BIOS/UEFI and check the boot order; if this is set and supported, you probably didn't make the drive correctly.  I recommend using Etcher
[21:39] <hellyeah> i am trying etcher now
[21:40] <hellyeah> okay sorry i am not sure windoes 10 does support usb boot  becayse i get into bios i see usb is enable but there is no usb selectiopn in boot list
[21:42] <SporkWitch> windows isn't a factor; windows isn't your BIOS/UEFI
[21:48] <arooni> i have this rule in ufw; 22                         ALLOW       192.168.1.159  ;; but it blocks connections from that ip address.. any idea why?
[21:48] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: any further ideas?
[21:49] <SporkWitch> arooni: don't know if it will let you do it, but if it does, make sure there isn't another rule in iptables that's blocking.  iptables -S
[21:51] <arooni> May 20 16:50:52 LilArooni kernel: [24546.927299] [UFW AUDIT] IN=wlan0 OUT= MAC=64:80:99:18:ab:48:84:d6:d0:14:8d:8a:08:00 SRC=192.168.1.159 DST=192.168.1.101 L EN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=44463 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=36358 DPT=22 WINDOW=65535 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 ;; looks like it does get blocked according to ufw
[21:53] <arooni> SporkWitch: i dont see anything explicit on iptalbes -S that says block port 22
[21:53] <SporkWitch> dunno what the output from UFW normally looks like, but is that allowing bidirectional? (i normally use iptables, sorry)
[22:02] <tomreyn> arooni: that's [UFW AUDIT], not [UFW BLOCKED]. it would say the latter if a packet was dropped. i assume AUDIT is just getting logged since you requested packets to be logged?
[22:04] <realies> how to make /tmp be in ram? ubuntu 16.04
[22:04] <blkadder> arooni, Pastebin ufw status
[22:05] <blkadder> realies, mount as tmpfs
[22:06] <realies> blkadder, how?
[22:07] <brainwash> !tmpfs
[22:10] <beefjoe> what does this command do
[22:10] <beefjoe> sudo apt-get update -qq
[22:10] <beefjoe> I mean the flag -qq
[22:10] <realies> quiet
[22:11] <realies> man apt-get
[22:13] <transhuman> Hi! my ubuntu desktop shows two monitors but they are mirrored and I cant seem to figure out how to get an extended display. I tried randr but it seems it cant see the difference between the two monitors (in fact only one is listed)
[22:15] <blkadder> realies, Should be done automatically IIRC as it us under systemd
[22:15] <ericrajuin> transhuman: does xrandr shows 2 monitors ?
[22:15] <transhuman> ones a dvi and ones a vga in an nvidia geforce 6600, I cant use the proprietary drivers cause they don't exist any more
[22:16] <transhuman> no it does not ericrajuin
[22:17] <transhuman> ericrajuin, any idea what that means?
[22:18] <realies> blkadder, how do i make sure?
[22:18] <blkadder> What's the output of "mount"
[22:18] <blkadder> That will tell you.
[22:19] <realies> blkadder, https://dpaste.de/LDwh/raw
[22:19] <realies> not seeing /tmp
[22:21] <arooni> blkadder: https://gist.github.com/arooni/a31971db6e07a0f4355ac77434a12574 ;; interesting enough when i run sudo ufw disable; then sudo ufw enable; i can connect; no idea why thats necessary tho
[22:22] <ericrajuin> transhuman: I am trying to figure out
[22:26] <blkadder> realies, Not automatic apparently, sorry for the misinfo... I think I set it up on an image a long time ago which I use so it is automatic for me. :-)
[22:26] <realies> i've added tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,nosuid,nodev,noexec,mode=1777,size=512M 0 0 to fstab
[22:27] <realies> can i activate this without rebooting?
[22:27] <blkadder>  cp /usr/share/systemd/tmp.mount /etc/systemd/system/tmp.mount
[22:27] <blkadder> systemctl enable tmp.mount
[22:27] <blkadder> systemctl start tmp.mount
[22:28] <blkadder> THEN do a "mount" and you should see it. :-)
[22:29] <rachid1> slt
[22:29] <blkadder> If you have existing stuff in /tmp you care about though you may want to cp it somewhere else and then back once you mount...
[22:29] <rachid1> ca va
[22:31] <realies> blkadder, should i remove the line i inserted in fstab?
[22:32] <blkadder> arooni, Have you just been using ufw?
[22:32] <blkadder> You weren't messing around with iptables as well or something were you?
[22:34] <realies> blkadder?
[22:34] <blkadder> realies, You can remove it.
[22:34] <blkadder> Will persist if it is under systemd.
[22:34] <realies> i think it is
[22:34] <realies> will leave it for now, hope nothing breaks on reboot
[22:35] <blkadder> Which is confusing and non-intuitive yay systemd.
[22:35] <blkadder> I just tested on a scratch image.
[22:35] <blkadder> And confirmed.
[22:35] <realies> erm
[22:35] <realies> if i enable tmp.mount it would try and start it on boot?
[22:35] <realies> would that not interfere with the line in fstab?
[22:35] <blkadder> If you enable it under systemd it will stay enabled.
[22:36] <blkadder> If you put stuff in fstab AND have it enabled under systemd I really don't know...
[22:36] <blkadder> May be fine, may conflict.
[22:36] <datlink> does any know how to start cron in the terminal?
[22:37] <blkadder> systemd is the borg.
[22:43] <Two_Dogs> i would do> systemctl start cron.service
[22:45] <transhuman> its because I am using a vesa driver ericrajuin
[22:45] <transhuman> thanks
[22:45] <transhuman> going to go with nauevea or however you spell the damn thing
[22:49] <ericrajuin> transhuman: I remembered had the same problem before when I tried to install amdgpu-pro, couldn't figure out why. ended up rolling back to the opensource driver
[22:49] <evlich> i had some problems with my upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04, and i'm wondering if anyone can help me
[22:50] <ericrajuin> glad you solved it.
[22:51] <evlich> about halfway through my installation i got a message about how graphics had die, and it told me to switch to another shell (Ctrl+Alt+F2)
[22:51] <yourname1> evlich: did it give you a reason why or an error output?
[22:52] <transhuman> ericrajuin, it was infact because I was using the vesa driver (apparently it only supports mirroring)
[22:52] <evlich> if i recall correctly, graphics died because of some missing file or something like that
[22:53] <evlich> unfortunately i don't recall all the details
[22:53] <Two_Dogs> evlich:  copy/paste & execute via terminal> sudo apt update ; aptitude safe-upgrade -sy ## see complaints?
[22:54] <evlich> i've been able to boot into recovery mode, but i can't seem to get networking running
[22:55] <evlich> so apt update just fails with a lot of network unreachables
[22:55] <Two_Dogs> evlich: it would fail without networking avail
[22:55] <evlich> networking was available when i was doing the upgrade
[22:56] <evlich> is there something that i could read that would tell me how to get networking up in the recovery mode shell?
[22:57] <Two_Dogs> evlich: try this> systemctl start NetworkManager
[22:57] <evlich> so i should be able to boot into recovery mode and then drop into the shell and do that?
[22:58] <evlich> i'll give it a try, thank you
[22:58] <yourname1>  evlich: i dont see a reason why it would just stop enless its some type of data error because at that point your graphic drivers are already loaded.. it might be be media
[23:01] <Guest37599> fuck you
[23:02] <matjam> lol
[23:04] <evlich> When I try 'systemctl start NetworkManager' I get a 'timed out waiting for device dev-mapper-cryptswap1.device'
[23:06] <Two_Dogs> evlich: you have crypto swap?
[23:06] <tomreyn> evlich: that's just to point out that something is wrong with your cryptswap1 device
[23:07] <tomreyn> "cat /proc/swaps" probably  won't list it, since it failed to be setup
[23:07] <evlich> I set up lvms when I installed Ubuntu
[23:07] <Guest89781> im first time in my life use the irc chat :) hi all, im from Norilsk, Russia.
[23:07] <tomreyn> cryptswap1, unless it's a misnomer,. points to a dmcrypt device
[23:08] <tomreyn> hi Guest89781
[23:08] <Guest89781> how i can change my name?
[23:08] <Guest89781> tomreyn: Hi
[23:08] <tomreyn> Guest89781: type: /nick mynewnick
[23:08] <yourname1> tomreyn: why would one even need to encrypt swap?
[23:09] <Andrewich> Its a simple:) Thank you
[23:09] <tomreyn> yourname1: because sensitive information, such as a memory dump when suspending to disk, can be written to it.
[23:09] <evlich> So is there something that I can do about the dmcrypt thing?
[23:09] <yourname1> tomreyn: ahh oh ok. thank :)
[23:10] <evlich> I assume it is pulling credentials from that, is there a way I can type them in manually?
[23:10] <tomreyn> evlich: most likely. can you show the output of: cat /etc/crypttab; cat /etc/fstab; sudo dmsetup ls; cat /proc/swaps; lsblk; blkid
[23:12] <tomreyn> evlich: i mean you most likely can do something about "the dmcrypt thing". i don't know what you meant by "it is pulling credentials from that"
[23:12] <evlich> Yeah, I wasn't thinking about the swap thing
[23:12] <tomreyn> normally, a crypt swap partition would be initialized with a random passphrase or key since you don't actually need to persist it across boots.
[23:14] <evlich> Im typing on my phone, so there is a lot of output. Is there something you are looking for?
[23:15] <tomreyn> !pastebin | evlich
[23:15] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | evlich
[23:15] <tomreyn> this way you'll only need to type urls
[23:17] <tomreyn> even better would be to connect here from the affected system, then you could just copy + paste or pipe the urls into the chat
[23:20] <evlich_> Shell https://imgur.com/a/GW3B8WA
[23:23] <Andrewich> anybody talk to russia?)
[23:23] <evlich_> sdb1 is a bootable USB, I don't know if there is a way to install packages from that
[23:23] <Two_Dogs> evlich_: see if you can fit the following in to jpg> pstree -nsupa
[23:24] <evlich_> It is short
[23:24] <Andrewich> i mean "speak"
[23:25] <evlich_> Recovery https://imgur.com/a/GdffStL
[23:26] <tomreyn> Andrewich: do you have an ubuntu support question then? this channel exists for this very purpose only. you can also join #ubuntu-offtopic, though
[23:26] <tomreyn> evlich_: 16 GB swap is plenty...
[23:26] <Andrewich> 	i understand, sorry. I just dont know what is it IRC channel and etc
[23:27] <Andrewich> How i can join the channel?
[23:27] <Two_Dogs> evlich_: not much is running for sure
[23:28] <tomreyn> evlich_: edit the last line in /etc/fstab, replacing "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1" by the UUID reported for it in the blkid output
[23:28] <kk4ewt> Andrewich,  and what channel do you want to join
[23:28] <tomreyn> no quotes, though
[23:28] <tomreyn> !ot | Andrewich
[23:28] <tomreyn> !register | Andrewich
[23:29] <Andrewich> #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:29] <Andrewich> i think
[23:29] <tomreyn> Andrewich: read the two messages ubottu just posted
[23:29] <kk4ewt> then type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:30] <kk4ewt> tomreyn,  wouldnt he need to be registered to be in here ?
[23:30] <Andrewich> ohhhh
[23:30] <tomreyn> kk4ewt: yes, as those messages say.
[23:30] <Andrewich> my english is very ba
[23:31] <Andrewich> Now i will translate all is you write, and answer.
[23:31] <evlich_> I can't write to /etc/fstab
[23:32] <tomreyn> evlich_: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[23:32] <evlich_> I'm already root,I think
[23:32] <evlich_> root@concept
[23:33] <Two_Dogs> evlich_: does your setup have a home partition?
[23:34] <evlich_> Yes
[23:34] <evlich_> Sorry, no
[23:34] <Two_Dogs> evlich_: probably faster and cleaner to re-install
[23:35] <tomreyn> evlich_: maybe your root file system is mounted read-only. does " mount | grep root " say 'ro'?
[23:35] <tomreyn> Two_Dogs: wait, why?
[23:36] <evlich_> Yes, it is mounted read only
[23:37] <evlich_> How can I remount it rw?
[23:37] <tomreyn> evlich_: so actually the swap partition not mounting may be just a side effect of your system not booting properly, for yet unknown reasons.
[23:37] <tomreyn> evlich_: you probably didn't mention that for a reasonß
[23:37] <tomreyn> ?
[23:38] <evlich_> I just did the default recovery mode and then drop into a shell
[23:38] <tomreyn> evlich_: why did you start recovery int he first place?
[23:39] <evlich_> Because regular mode just leaves me with a flashing cursor
[23:39] <Two_Dogs> evlich_: can you get to tty from flashing cursor?
[23:39] <tomreyn> evlich_: next time you seek support, please be sure to start by discussing the root issue.
[23:39] <evlich_> No.
[23:40] <evlich_> It seems to just hang
[23:40] <Two_Dogs> evlich_: fixing a cascading failure aint worth the time unless lives depend on that system
[23:40] <backnforth> Hi, what's the package for Ubuntu in order to get the mod_proxy_fcgi module for apache?
[23:40] <tomreyn> evlich_: you can mount the root file system read-writable by using: mount -o remount,rw /
[23:42] <evlich_> Is there some way to boot a live CD and then recreate my environment with tvr network from tvr live CD?
[23:43] <tomreyn> backnforth: apache2-bin
[23:43] <Two_Dogs> evlich_: boot into live and see of there is a fix system option
[23:44] <Two_Dogs> evlich_: from live it is easier to tweak the installed
[23:44] <tomreyn> evlich_: what is "tvr network" and "tvr live cd"?
[23:45] <tomreyn> Two_Dogs: only if you know how to chroot properly
[23:45] <Two_Dogs> tomreyn: yeap
[23:45] <Guest69567> Trump's dick is fucking tasty!
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[23:46] <evlich_> What is tvr?
[23:46] <backnforth> tomreyn,  I have it installed but my machine is showing that it's /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_proxy.so" is missing
[23:46] <tomreyn> evlich_: i'm asking you, you talked about it
[23:47] <evlich_> Sorry, that was a typo for "the"
[23:47] <tomreyn> backnforth: then you're either not running a supported ubuntu release (or not ubuntu at all), or you or something you ran (re)moved the file.
[23:48] <tomreyn> evlich_: i see, didn't realize. so yes, you could do it from the live cd, but i doubt this would help unless you know what you actually need to fix.
[23:49] <backnforth> tomreyn,  I'm running ubuntu 16.04
[23:49] <tomreyn> evlich_: you should probably try to understand why "regular mode just leaves me with a flashing cursor [...] It seems to just hang"
[23:49] <evlich_> I'm guessing that I could resume the install or fix the packages if I could get a shell with network access
[23:50] <tomreyn> evlich_: so you were recently installing ubuntu and the installation did not succeed?
[23:50] <yourname1> evlich_: are you usinh a usb or cd?
[23:50] <tomreyn> backnforth: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&arch=any&mode=filename&searchon=contents&keywords=mod_proxy_fcgi
[23:53] <tomreyn> backnforth: you can sudo apt reinstall apache2-bin
[23:54] <tomreyn> backnforth: you can "sudo apt-get --reinstall install apache2-bin"
[23:54] <tomreyn> ^ correction
[23:55] <evlich> phone died, i'm in the live CD now
[23:55] <evlich> i'm fine with a re-install, but i really want to keep the contents of my home directory
[23:56] <Two_Dogs> evlich: is 'repair system' an option?
[23:56] <evlich> in the installer?
[23:57] <evlich> it doesn't seem to be
[23:58] <tomreyn> no, there is no such option on the ubuntu live systems
[23:58] <Two_Dogs> evlich: you could while in the live go thru the process needed to turn the system's now home folder into a partition, you would need freespace of course for the partition, or save the content of /home folder, along with /etc if you tweaked any thing in it
[23:58] <yourname1> evlich:  i use a seperate partition for /home when you reinstall just choose to not format and you should be good