[00:50] If anyone is interested in learning to use Python, this seems to be a good course: https://developers.google.com/edu/python/ [00:51] It is free and comes with video lectures and exercises. [02:04] We should send this to Alexandrieu and encourage them to write back to Linus: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005/December/msg00021.html [02:04] oops: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html [05:24] Lovely quote... [12:52] I do disagree with this to a point. people have different use cases. and overly simplified designs... there is a reason why windows went the route it did, there is a reason why more and more people simply use cellphones than use laptops or desktop computers at all [12:53] We can say that for our audience and their workflows that what gnome is aiming for doesn't work. without demonizing gnome. [12:54] I don't like this attitude and it will lose us volunteers, it does lose us users as linux community [12:56] if nothing else that the users have the choice of DEs is an advantage for linux in appealing to a larger audience, and building a platform where software compiled once even can work in a variety of devices aimed at different users.