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cyb0rghi, is there a way to make alt+tab cycle through windows instead of show desktop?02:00
cyb0rgPlasma is pretty cool so far, but wtf is up with that change?02:01
cyb0rgok, found the shortcut hidden in an inappropriate menu ("system settings" shortcuts. Cycling windows is not a system setting)02:04
cyb0rgok now I am more confused. alt+tab is already walk through windows, but it just switches between showing the desktop or my windows.02:05
cyb0rgok, found this issue. It was having it set to cycle through activities. I thought that meant windows within all activities. A bit ambiguous, but fair enough.02:12
IchsanHi Kubuntu developers. I've been Kubuntu fans since its early releases. After upgraded my Kubuntu from 16.04 into 18.04, I saw many good things. It's so awesome running on my gaming notebook! And I just want to say thank you for the greatest OS I've ever used!02:40
designbybeckWHY KDE WHY!... 18.04!? still randomness!? I want to love you... I really really do! You were so much more closer to Unity 16.04  with some configuring03:13
designbybeckI can't even do a screen shot with Shutter!03:13
designbybeck:( makes me so sad.... so so sad...what do I do with my life03:13
IrcsomeBot<ccarguelo> @designbybeck, That's because of Wayland03:15
IrcsomeBot<ccarguelo> @designbybeck, Switch back to X.org03:15
designbybeckIrcsomeBot:  !?!?! Wayland!? is it in Kubuntu? or in Gnome!?03:15
designbybeckI agree we need something beside of x.org!03:16
designbybeckWayland was something, Mir? was it? was something else? but just make it all work03:16
designbybeckI had this configured as close to Unity as I could...it was so sweet! streamlined ..Gnome was close..it was.. And I wanted to enjoy it03:18
designbybeckI can enlarge my font/text for date/time, but not my icons03:19
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @designbybeck, System Settings -> icons .... Advanced tab -> Panel.... set the size and restart plasma is change is not immediate.03:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ^if change^03:21
designbybeckno no no DarinMiller... the taskbar03:22
designbybeckI can't do a screen shot with Shutter or I'd show you... Shutter is the best for that...so easy in ANY other distro!03:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Oh, right click on task bar and use the slider to change icon size.03:23
designbybeckMAKE ME LOVE YOU! ....I'll be your best friend!  I'll promote many great things!03:23
designbybeckno no no.... see DarinMiller this was the great thing about Unity!... SIMPLE... streamlined ....gets out of your way03:24
designbybeckI do graphic design, video editing, 3D, I want my screen real estate!03:24
designbybeckI want VERY little OS in my way... Let me work!03:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Unity is still available as far as I know.... I personally hide all my panels so I have 100% screen realestate.03:25
designbybeck...by the way, I must say I'm on a HiDEF screen, so maybe that has a lil' to do with this03:25
designbybeckon a lptop03:25
designbybecklaptop03:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Me too.03:26
designbybeckHmmmm.....03:26
designbybeckbut I want to see give or take 20px bar with date/time03:26
designbybeckeasy HUD with "super" key03:26
designbybeckand Shutter to work out of the box . Along with hot corners for desktops03:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> The upper right hot corner is the only corner defined by default in kde, the rest are up to the user.03:28
designbybeckyeah I got of few of those lined out. Which I like!03:29
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I 100% agree with you in regards to Spectacle...needs lots of work to catch up with other screen capture tools.03:29
designbybeckwhat is Spectacle?03:29
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> The default screen capture tool.03:30
designbybeck...I only revisit KDE/Kubuntu once a year give or take! ? I do like what they have going on,....just over complicated....to much.  Don't be Windows...03:30
designbybeckI don't know Spectacle? Do You know Shutter? I haven't met its equal in LInux?03:31
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> The devs are very responsive to input.  If someone puts up a good case for better defaults, they make it happen.  Those of us that use it for a while are used to the complication and forget that not everyone has the same background.03:32
designbybeckI can respect that DarinMiller... and I understand that! ...which is why I'd love to win the Lotto and pay them all  :)03:33
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Yes, I have used an like shutter very much.03:33
IrcsomeBot* DarinMiller would do exactly the same if I win the lotto.03:34
designbybeckI try to teach streamlined, efficient, Open Source useage in all I do03:34
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designbybeckMy Love/Hate with KDE/Kubuntu is to complex for streamlineness. I was brainstorming on BEKoS ...(BECK OS) ...(forgot what I was calling it) But I was going to take all the KDE stuff and take out all the no needed settings for basic03:36
designbybeckIt would be great for KDE Lite... Mirror what Unity was. I know there have been a few settings along those lines03:38
designbybeckThemes and such03:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I see a couple in the Theme downloads:03:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> (Photo, 775x681) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/iH03pJAw/file_7088.jpg03:40
designbybeckThough I understand if I learn programming myself I can help the cause! I am just not there yet!03:40
designbybeck....I'm like a noob!03:40
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jozohello05:17
jozoI am not able to set mouse cursor shape in config05:17
jozoWhen I download ubuntuaero mouse cursor theme05:18
jozoarrow cursor is OK05:18
jozobut of I go on the link in chrome for example cursor is black05:18
jozohow can be this fixed ?05:19
jozoalso it is not possible to set usb mouse sensitivity05:19
jozohttps://store.kde.org/p/999992/ this theme btw05:21
valorieit's possible that the theme doesn't work for Gtk applications such as chrome05:21
valoriehave you tried Falkon?05:21
valorieit has totally replaced chrome for me05:21
valorie!info falkon05:22
ubottufalkon (source: falkon): lightweight web browser based on Qt WebEngine. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 2092 kB, installed size 9873 kB05:22
jozovalorie: it is also not working with qt apps05:22
jozovalorie: and on kubuntu 14.04 it works for everything05:23
valorieinteresting05:23
valoriewell, we don't support things we don't package05:23
valorieand we don't package themes05:23
jozoah :(05:23
valorieso I guess check with the person who wrote the theme?05:24
valorieperhaps some code changed in the past 2 years05:24
jozoand has kubuntu cursors similar as windows 7 ?in oficial package ?05:26
valorienot that I know of05:26
valorieI rarely change the defaults05:26
valoriedon't know what cursors looked like in win705:27
valorienot sure I ever used it05:27
jozook thanks05:28
valorieI mean, we could, but I don't know about it05:29
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BluesKajHowdy all11:55
R13oseHi BluesKaj12:19
BluesKajhi R13ose12:31
timsag3bye all! ^^12:33
R13oseBluesKaj: what's up?12:35
BluesKajmorning coffee here,  how about you, R13ose?12:42
R13oseTrying to solve my issues as always :)12:43
BluesKajR13ose, remind me , what's the issue again?12:58
R13oseBluesKaj: trying to solve that kubuntu locks when booting up and unsure why.  I see the kubuntu but never get to login screen or desktop13:11
BluesKajblack screen with blinking cursor?13:12
R13oseBluesKaj: actually nope, I see kubuntu logo and I hit escape and then when this stops the blinking cursor stays then and then disappears.  I don't know if this is waiting for something but I feel this is too long.13:17
BluesKajctl+alt+F2-F6, login with username and pw , then sudo nano /etc/default/grub, then edit the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" by replacing "quiet splash" with nomodeset. Then ctl + o , enter, ctl + x to save and exit , then at the prompt , run  sudo update grub, then reboot13:18
BluesKajcorrection: sudo update-grub13:19
R13oseI have also tried fsck and now badblocks.13:21
R13oseBluesKaj: where do I do what you are saying?13:22
BluesKajin the black screen13:23
R13oseBluesKaj: I have to wait for badblocks to finish. Yet, there is no black screen but you mean when this is trying to boot, right?13:25
BluesKajyes13:25
R13oseBluesKaj: should I try one boot after badblocks before doing yours or go straight into yours?13:26
BluesKajdepends , do you get the black screena fter bad blocks?13:27
BluesKajafter13:27
R13oseI have to wait and see.  Can we use a different word to black screen?13:28
elichai2Hey13:28
elichai2plasmashell stopped working in my laptop, when I start it I get sddm but after the launch only a terminal opens, if I run `plasmashell` in the terminal I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X9473nT35n/ and inside dmesg I have: `[  200.667715] plasmashell[5773]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fabb9d1d526 sp 00007ffff6e1a400 error 4 in libkcupslib.so[7fabb9ce1000+55000]`13:30
BluesKajR13ose, using ctl+alt+F2 to F6 gives you a TTY/VT which is a virtual terminal like the konsole, and then run the command i mentioned13:31
elichai2any ideas what to do? (I tried removing everything from that mentions kde/plasma from my HOME\.config\.cache, and tried to upgrade kde from the backports ppa)13:31
elichai2it might be because of this but i'm not sure: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FNBPtfFxmV/13:32
R13oseBluesKaj: yes I know but does that work at boot screen?13:33
BluesKajit should work after the Kubuntu logo disappears13:34
R13oseBluesKaj: what if kubuntu logo doesn't disappear?  I can't remember if this does or not13:35
BluesKajelichai2, run sudo apt full-upgrade when the terminal appears13:36
BluesKajR13ose, well, try rebooting to see13:37
R13oseBluesKaj: I will after badblocks, okay?13:37
elichai2BluesKaj: will it update to 18.04? I don't want to bring more problems, I'm right now on fully updated 17.1013:37
BluesKajR13ose, don't run bad blocks13:38
R13oseBluesKaj: I already did and done 60%+13:39
BluesKajelichai2, no it just upgrades all existing packages13:40
BluesKajR13ose, then let i finish and try then13:40
R13oseBluesKaj: thanks.  I will let you know when done which is super slow.13:41
BluesKajyou could cancel it, ctl+c13:43
R13oseBluesKaj: will that cause any issues?13:43
BluesKajit's just a scan afiak13:43
R13oseBluesKaj: What are the errors it says are there?13:44
BluesKajdunno13:46
R13oseMight take hours more to finish.  I will cancel and see what happens.13:47
elichai2BluesKaj: ok, I did a full-upgrade13:48
BluesKajelichai2, any upgrades happen?13:49
elichai2Nope13:49
R13oseBluesKaj: how long should I work a logo screen?13:51
BluesKajelichai2, run sudo dpkg --configure -a. then sudo apt  -f install13:52
R13oseBluesKaj: I am at busybox built-in shell noe13:52
R13osenow*13:52
elichai2BluesKaj: ran, nothing happened13:53
BluesKajR13ose, til the the logo disappears and the blinking cursor in the top left appears13:53
R13oseOk.13:54
R13oseBluesKaj: any thoughts what to do at busybox built-in shell?13:54
BluesKajyeah R13ose\, reboot13:55
BluesKajdon't run bad blocks again13:55
R13oseOkay sorry13:55
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BluesKajelichai2, run sudo apt install --reinstall cups14:03
R13oseBluesKaj: says mount: can't find /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root in fstab.  How to fix?14:05
BluesKajR13ose, are you using LVM  or some kind of new file system14:09
R13oseLVM14:10
BluesKajdunno much about LVM, since i don't need it ..think you need to do some research how fstab handles LVM partitions, R13ose14:15
R13oseThanks14:17
BluesKajR13ose, also since it's not dektop releated you could ask in #ubuntu chat as well. There a re quite few knowlegeable people there regarding LVM etc14:18
R13oseBluesKaj: I shouldn't ask in #lvm?14:19
BluesKajyou could ask there too , of course14:20
R13oseOkay thanks14:20
BluesKajnp14:20
R13oseBluesKaj: I asked in both and will wait14:23
R13oseBluesKaj: where is boot log?14:29
BluesKajR13ose, in /var/log14:47
R13oseBluesKaj: I don't see log but I didn't go into the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg- ones14:48
BluesKajr  look in root in dolphin, then/var/log14:48
BluesKajbrb,...gotta reboot14:49
R13oseBluesKaj: I am in busybox built-in shell not GUI14:56
R13oseBluesKaj: also the person helped me in #ubuntu said they don't anymore15:00
BluesKajdon't help, whynot?15:05
R13oseBluesKaj: only pointed me to a link that didn't work out15:14
R13oseBluesKaj: should I try: https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/recovering-from-unbootable-ubuntu-encrypted-lvm-root-partition/15:15
BluesKajI really don't know much about busybox, used it a few times with e2fsck to fix a boot problem caused by my W7 install, but  got rid of windows and no longer have the problem15:22
R13oseOkay.15:23
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EvilRoeywhat tools exist to give a sort of ActiveDirectory-like view to network management of Linux boxes?15:28
EvilRoeyoh hi BluesKaj15:28
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kubuntu_aye whats up15:30
Guest66760HI BOYS15:30
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GNARLYHELLO15:31
kubuntu_hey15:31
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BluesKajEvilRoey, netstat -nat command is one15:37
EvilRoeyok I suppose so, yes15:37
BluesKajEvilRoey, , not al your networked computers15:38
BluesKajjust the one you're using15:39
EvilRoeyokkkkk15:42
EvilRoey* okk15:42
EvilRoeysorry, my keyboard's weird15:43
viewer|35529Is there an on-screen keyboard in Kubuntu or is it only accessible on the lock screen?15:58
R13oseBluesKaj: should I also try general linux channel?16:03
BluesKajsure16:08
BluesKajviewer|35529, look for virtual keyboard in the package manager, there are a few choices16:09
IrcsomeBot<bauchhaus> What's the best way to configure a synaptics touchpad? I want no taps and no areas defined but one finger klick is left mouse button and two finger klick is right mouse button.16:29
skomorokh"No candidate version found for unetbootin" ...is there a new recommended tool for building a bootable Kubuntu install usb? The page linked from the release notes is timing out http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/installation.html16:41
rik-shawskomorokh: I prefer mkusb-nox (simple terminal version, but mkusb is there with a GUI if you want that).16:49
rik-shawBy default it takes the whole stick, and makes it read-only so is good for a UEFI compatible installer.16:50
skomorokhDoesn't seem to be in the repos or snap :(16:50
rik-shawI use multibootusb if you don't need UEFI and want to use the drive for other things and want multiple Linux installers on one stick.  http://multibootusb.org/16:50
skomorokhThanks, I'll give mkusb-nox a try, CLI + gets things right for UEFI the first time sounds like just the thing.16:51
rik-shawyes. agreed!  Sorry can't recall if in main repos but if want most up-to-date can use ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mkusb/+archive/ubuntu/ppa16:52
rik-shawwith stick installed, run "sudo mkusb-nox /path/to/iso.iso" and it has a nice interactive process from there.16:53
batteronizerHi, has anyone else noticed icons in the panel sometimes showing the wrong state/not updating in 18.04? Seems like a bug.16:59
viewer|56291Does Kubuntu have a virtual/on-screen keyboard installed by default?18:03
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mattflyhi20:40
mattflyanyone on a nvidia laptop?20:40
R13oseBluesKaj: ping20:40
valoriemattfly: I have one here; what's your question?21:02
mattflyhey are you able to hibernate on ur laptop?21:02
mattflyyou have the nvidia-390 driver?21:03
mattflykubuntu bionic?21:03
mattflywait arent you the guy i just talked with not so long ago21:06
valorieI'm not a guy! so .....21:10
valorie:-)21:10
valoriehmm, never have tried to hibernate21:11
valorieI basically never shut it down21:11
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.12.5 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) powered by Linux 4.15.0-20-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3399-3400/3800 MHz, RAM: 30959/32119 MB, Storage: 280/1144 GB, 273 procs, 643.12h up21:11
valoriemy other little laptop hibernates perfectly but it is not nvidia21:11
valoriechecking to see what driver I'm using21:12
mattflyis it a laptop?21:12
valorieyes, both21:12
mattflyoha21:12
mattflyi have reported a bug21:12
valorieyup, 39021:12
valorieok, what's the bug number?21:13
mattflyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/177049121:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1770491 in uswsusp (Ubuntu) "Hibernation doesnt work after installing nvidia-384(s2disk hangs)" [Undecided,New]21:13
valorieI'll try to test for you21:13
mattflywhenever you can21:13
mattflytry to see if you can hibernate21:13
valorieoh, 38421:13
mattflyno21:13
mattflythats the package name21:13
mattflynvidia-38421:13
valorie?21:13
mattflythe driver is 39021:13
mattflyidk why they make this mess21:13
valoriethat's pointlessly confusing21:14
mattflythe ubuntu package nvidia-384 installs the driver named 39021:14
mattflyyou can check it there21:14
mattflytry to see if hibernation works there anyway, im having this isssue since the alpha21:14
mattflywhenever you can21:14
mattflyand if you have the same problem reported there, give some feedback or tell me at least21:15
valorieI can try this later today21:16
valorieright now I'm trying to test the newest plasma21:16
mattflyoh 5.13?21:17
mattflyhave you added the backports ppas?21:17
valoriedid you see this, mattfly? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/66783321:17
valoriehttps://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-5-bugfix-update-for-kubuntu-18-04-lts-testing-help-required/21:18
mattflyyes i posted that21:18
valorieok21:18
valorieso there are eyes on this, good21:18
mattflynot really21:18
valorieI always use backports, yes21:18
mattflynobody recognizes the bug so far21:18
valoriebut we need to test the 5.12.5 release so that it can go into the point release in July21:19
acheronuk5.13 is still beta21:20
mattflyso 5.13 will never be part of kubuntu bionic?21:20
valoriemattfly: not as part of point releases21:21
acheronukmattfly: not in the main archive. it is not an LTS release, and depends on a not LTS Qt version. we will very likely have in a PPA for bionic for those who want leap off the LTS train21:21
valorie5.12 Plasma is LTS, so we want to keep that for our lts > lts people21:22
mattflyalright21:22
* valorie will leap into the future21:22
acheronukhttps://i.imgur.com/zBm13Jf.png21:23
* acheronuk hides21:24
valoriehttps://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/kde-plasma-5-13-features-upgrade21:25
valorie:-)21:25
valoriegosh, give me a minute dude, and I'll catch up!21:25
mattflyyeah i saw that this morning21:26
valoriehmmm, they got it a bit wrong as we've not decided whether or not to use the Backports PPA for this upgrade21:28
valoriesince they didn't ask.....21:28
acheronukmany things in these articles are guesses based what happened before21:30
valorieyup21:33
IrcsomeBot<weltimeister> @valorie, I would love to get 5.13 but I love stability. So I would like the idea to jump to 5.13.4 (or even 5.13.5) once it got out and stay with 5.12 until then.21:37
acheronukeven if we decide to put 5.13 in the main backports PPA, I think it unlikely will will push packages to it until at least the .2 or .3 bugfix release. keeping packages somewhere else for testing until then21:42
IrcsomeBot<weltimeister> @acheronuk, Ah! 😊 That is good to hear. Thank you for the info!21:49
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valorieIMO something like "plasma-backports" PPA would make sense -- depending on the state of Qt in the archive I suppose22:07
evlichi just installed kubuntu 18.04 using the minimal install option and it is a bit too minimal for me. is there an easy way (i.e. without reinstalling) to install the full installation?22:22
Lord_chenchonice job kubuntu team!22:24
valorieevlich: sure, just install whatever you like from either the commandline or using Discover or Muon22:41
valorieas usual22:41
valorieoh, and if you want everything, just sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop22:42
valoriethat will pick up everything you missed22:42
valorieor you can do that via muon/discover22:43

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