cyb0rg | hi, is there a way to make alt+tab cycle through windows instead of show desktop? | 02:00 |
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cyb0rg | Plasma is pretty cool so far, but wtf is up with that change? | 02:01 |
cyb0rg | ok, found the shortcut hidden in an inappropriate menu ("system settings" shortcuts. Cycling windows is not a system setting) | 02:04 |
cyb0rg | ok now I am more confused. alt+tab is already walk through windows, but it just switches between showing the desktop or my windows. | 02:05 |
cyb0rg | ok, found this issue. It was having it set to cycle through activities. I thought that meant windows within all activities. A bit ambiguous, but fair enough. | 02:12 |
Ichsan | Hi Kubuntu developers. I've been Kubuntu fans since its early releases. After upgraded my Kubuntu from 16.04 into 18.04, I saw many good things. It's so awesome running on my gaming notebook! And I just want to say thank you for the greatest OS I've ever used! | 02:40 |
designbybeck | WHY KDE WHY!... 18.04!? still randomness!? I want to love you... I really really do! You were so much more closer to Unity 16.04 with some configuring | 03:13 |
designbybeck | I can't even do a screen shot with Shutter! | 03:13 |
designbybeck | :( makes me so sad.... so so sad...what do I do with my life | 03:13 |
IrcsomeBot | <ccarguelo> @designbybeck, That's because of Wayland | 03:15 |
IrcsomeBot | <ccarguelo> @designbybeck, Switch back to X.org | 03:15 |
designbybeck | IrcsomeBot: !?!?! Wayland!? is it in Kubuntu? or in Gnome!? | 03:15 |
designbybeck | I agree we need something beside of x.org! | 03:16 |
designbybeck | Wayland was something, Mir? was it? was something else? but just make it all work | 03:16 |
designbybeck | I had this configured as close to Unity as I could...it was so sweet! streamlined ..Gnome was close..it was.. And I wanted to enjoy it | 03:18 |
designbybeck | I can enlarge my font/text for date/time, but not my icons | 03:19 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> @designbybeck, System Settings -> icons .... Advanced tab -> Panel.... set the size and restart plasma is change is not immediate. | 03:21 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> ^if change^ | 03:21 |
designbybeck | no no no DarinMiller... the taskbar | 03:22 |
designbybeck | I can't do a screen shot with Shutter or I'd show you... Shutter is the best for that...so easy in ANY other distro! | 03:23 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Oh, right click on task bar and use the slider to change icon size. | 03:23 |
designbybeck | MAKE ME LOVE YOU! ....I'll be your best friend! I'll promote many great things! | 03:23 |
designbybeck | no no no.... see DarinMiller this was the great thing about Unity!... SIMPLE... streamlined ....gets out of your way | 03:24 |
designbybeck | I do graphic design, video editing, 3D, I want my screen real estate! | 03:24 |
designbybeck | I want VERY little OS in my way... Let me work! | 03:25 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Unity is still available as far as I know.... I personally hide all my panels so I have 100% screen realestate. | 03:25 |
designbybeck | ...by the way, I must say I'm on a HiDEF screen, so maybe that has a lil' to do with this | 03:25 |
designbybeck | on a lptop | 03:25 |
designbybeck | laptop | 03:25 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Me too. | 03:26 |
designbybeck | Hmmmm..... | 03:26 |
designbybeck | but I want to see give or take 20px bar with date/time | 03:26 |
designbybeck | easy HUD with "super" key | 03:26 |
designbybeck | and Shutter to work out of the box . Along with hot corners for desktops | 03:27 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> The upper right hot corner is the only corner defined by default in kde, the rest are up to the user. | 03:28 |
designbybeck | yeah I got of few of those lined out. Which I like! | 03:29 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> I 100% agree with you in regards to Spectacle...needs lots of work to catch up with other screen capture tools. | 03:29 |
designbybeck | what is Spectacle? | 03:29 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> The default screen capture tool. | 03:30 |
designbybeck | ...I only revisit KDE/Kubuntu once a year give or take! ? I do like what they have going on,....just over complicated....to much. Don't be Windows... | 03:30 |
designbybeck | I don't know Spectacle? Do You know Shutter? I haven't met its equal in LInux? | 03:31 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> The devs are very responsive to input. If someone puts up a good case for better defaults, they make it happen. Those of us that use it for a while are used to the complication and forget that not everyone has the same background. | 03:32 |
designbybeck | I can respect that DarinMiller... and I understand that! ...which is why I'd love to win the Lotto and pay them all :) | 03:33 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> Yes, I have used an like shutter very much. | 03:33 |
IrcsomeBot | * DarinMiller would do exactly the same if I win the lotto. | 03:34 |
designbybeck | I try to teach streamlined, efficient, Open Source useage in all I do | 03:34 |
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designbybeck | My Love/Hate with KDE/Kubuntu is to complex for streamlineness. I was brainstorming on BEKoS ...(BECK OS) ...(forgot what I was calling it) But I was going to take all the KDE stuff and take out all the no needed settings for basic | 03:36 |
designbybeck | It would be great for KDE Lite... Mirror what Unity was. I know there have been a few settings along those lines | 03:38 |
designbybeck | Themes and such | 03:38 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> I see a couple in the Theme downloads: | 03:39 |
IrcsomeBot | <DarinMiller> (Photo, 775x681) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/iH03pJAw/file_7088.jpg | 03:40 |
designbybeck | Though I understand if I learn programming myself I can help the cause! I am just not there yet! | 03:40 |
designbybeck | ....I'm like a noob! | 03:40 |
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jozo | hello | 05:17 |
jozo | I am not able to set mouse cursor shape in config | 05:17 |
jozo | When I download ubuntuaero mouse cursor theme | 05:18 |
jozo | arrow cursor is OK | 05:18 |
jozo | but of I go on the link in chrome for example cursor is black | 05:18 |
jozo | how can be this fixed ? | 05:19 |
jozo | also it is not possible to set usb mouse sensitivity | 05:19 |
jozo | https://store.kde.org/p/999992/ this theme btw | 05:21 |
valorie | it's possible that the theme doesn't work for Gtk applications such as chrome | 05:21 |
valorie | have you tried Falkon? | 05:21 |
valorie | it has totally replaced chrome for me | 05:21 |
valorie | !info falkon | 05:22 |
ubottu | falkon (source: falkon): lightweight web browser based on Qt WebEngine. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 2092 kB, installed size 9873 kB | 05:22 |
jozo | valorie: it is also not working with qt apps | 05:22 |
jozo | valorie: and on kubuntu 14.04 it works for everything | 05:23 |
valorie | interesting | 05:23 |
valorie | well, we don't support things we don't package | 05:23 |
valorie | and we don't package themes | 05:23 |
jozo | ah :( | 05:23 |
valorie | so I guess check with the person who wrote the theme? | 05:24 |
valorie | perhaps some code changed in the past 2 years | 05:24 |
jozo | and has kubuntu cursors similar as windows 7 ?in oficial package ? | 05:26 |
valorie | not that I know of | 05:26 |
valorie | I rarely change the defaults | 05:26 |
valorie | don't know what cursors looked like in win7 | 05:27 |
valorie | not sure I ever used it | 05:27 |
jozo | ok thanks | 05:28 |
valorie | I mean, we could, but I don't know about it | 05:29 |
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BluesKaj | Howdy all | 11:55 |
R13ose | Hi BluesKaj | 12:19 |
BluesKaj | hi R13ose | 12:31 |
timsag3 | bye all! ^^ | 12:33 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: what's up? | 12:35 |
BluesKaj | morning coffee here, how about you, R13ose? | 12:42 |
R13ose | Trying to solve my issues as always :) | 12:43 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, remind me , what's the issue again? | 12:58 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: trying to solve that kubuntu locks when booting up and unsure why. I see the kubuntu but never get to login screen or desktop | 13:11 |
BluesKaj | black screen with blinking cursor? | 13:12 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: actually nope, I see kubuntu logo and I hit escape and then when this stops the blinking cursor stays then and then disappears. I don't know if this is waiting for something but I feel this is too long. | 13:17 |
BluesKaj | ctl+alt+F2-F6, login with username and pw , then sudo nano /etc/default/grub, then edit the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" by replacing "quiet splash" with nomodeset. Then ctl + o , enter, ctl + x to save and exit , then at the prompt , run sudo update grub, then reboot | 13:18 |
BluesKaj | correction: sudo update-grub | 13:19 |
R13ose | I have also tried fsck and now badblocks. | 13:21 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: where do I do what you are saying? | 13:22 |
BluesKaj | in the black screen | 13:23 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: I have to wait for badblocks to finish. Yet, there is no black screen but you mean when this is trying to boot, right? | 13:25 |
BluesKaj | yes | 13:25 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: should I try one boot after badblocks before doing yours or go straight into yours? | 13:26 |
BluesKaj | depends , do you get the black screena fter bad blocks? | 13:27 |
BluesKaj | after | 13:27 |
R13ose | I have to wait and see. Can we use a different word to black screen? | 13:28 |
elichai2 | Hey | 13:28 |
elichai2 | plasmashell stopped working in my laptop, when I start it I get sddm but after the launch only a terminal opens, if I run `plasmashell` in the terminal I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X9473nT35n/ and inside dmesg I have: `[ 200.667715] plasmashell[5773]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fabb9d1d526 sp 00007ffff6e1a400 error 4 in libkcupslib.so[7fabb9ce1000+55000]` | 13:30 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, using ctl+alt+F2 to F6 gives you a TTY/VT which is a virtual terminal like the konsole, and then run the command i mentioned | 13:31 |
elichai2 | any ideas what to do? (I tried removing everything from that mentions kde/plasma from my HOME\.config\.cache, and tried to upgrade kde from the backports ppa) | 13:31 |
elichai2 | it might be because of this but i'm not sure: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FNBPtfFxmV/ | 13:32 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: yes I know but does that work at boot screen? | 13:33 |
BluesKaj | it should work after the Kubuntu logo disappears | 13:34 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: what if kubuntu logo doesn't disappear? I can't remember if this does or not | 13:35 |
BluesKaj | elichai2, run sudo apt full-upgrade when the terminal appears | 13:36 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, well, try rebooting to see | 13:37 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: I will after badblocks, okay? | 13:37 |
elichai2 | BluesKaj: will it update to 18.04? I don't want to bring more problems, I'm right now on fully updated 17.10 | 13:37 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, don't run bad blocks | 13:38 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: I already did and done 60%+ | 13:39 |
BluesKaj | elichai2, no it just upgrades all existing packages | 13:40 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, then let i finish and try then | 13:40 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: thanks. I will let you know when done which is super slow. | 13:41 |
BluesKaj | you could cancel it, ctl+c | 13:43 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: will that cause any issues? | 13:43 |
BluesKaj | it's just a scan afiak | 13:43 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: What are the errors it says are there? | 13:44 |
BluesKaj | dunno | 13:46 |
R13ose | Might take hours more to finish. I will cancel and see what happens. | 13:47 |
elichai2 | BluesKaj: ok, I did a full-upgrade | 13:48 |
BluesKaj | elichai2, any upgrades happen? | 13:49 |
elichai2 | Nope | 13:49 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: how long should I work a logo screen? | 13:51 |
BluesKaj | elichai2, run sudo dpkg --configure -a. then sudo apt -f install | 13:52 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: I am at busybox built-in shell noe | 13:52 |
R13ose | now* | 13:52 |
elichai2 | BluesKaj: ran, nothing happened | 13:53 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, til the the logo disappears and the blinking cursor in the top left appears | 13:53 |
R13ose | Ok. | 13:54 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: any thoughts what to do at busybox built-in shell? | 13:54 |
BluesKaj | yeah R13ose\, reboot | 13:55 |
BluesKaj | don't run bad blocks again | 13:55 |
R13ose | Okay sorry | 13:55 |
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BluesKaj | elichai2, run sudo apt install --reinstall cups | 14:03 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: says mount: can't find /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root in fstab. How to fix? | 14:05 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, are you using LVM or some kind of new file system | 14:09 |
R13ose | LVM | 14:10 |
BluesKaj | dunno much about LVM, since i don't need it ..think you need to do some research how fstab handles LVM partitions, R13ose | 14:15 |
R13ose | Thanks | 14:17 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, also since it's not dektop releated you could ask in #ubuntu chat as well. There a re quite few knowlegeable people there regarding LVM etc | 14:18 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: I shouldn't ask in #lvm? | 14:19 |
BluesKaj | you could ask there too , of course | 14:20 |
R13ose | Okay thanks | 14:20 |
BluesKaj | np | 14:20 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: I asked in both and will wait | 14:23 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: where is boot log? | 14:29 |
BluesKaj | R13ose, in /var/log | 14:47 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: I don't see log but I didn't go into the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg- ones | 14:48 |
BluesKaj | r look in root in dolphin, then/var/log | 14:48 |
BluesKaj | brb,...gotta reboot | 14:49 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: I am in busybox built-in shell not GUI | 14:56 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: also the person helped me in #ubuntu said they don't anymore | 15:00 |
BluesKaj | don't help, whynot? | 15:05 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: only pointed me to a link that didn't work out | 15:14 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: should I try: https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/recovering-from-unbootable-ubuntu-encrypted-lvm-root-partition/ | 15:15 |
BluesKaj | I really don't know much about busybox, used it a few times with e2fsck to fix a boot problem caused by my W7 install, but got rid of windows and no longer have the problem | 15:22 |
R13ose | Okay. | 15:23 |
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EvilRoey | what tools exist to give a sort of ActiveDirectory-like view to network management of Linux boxes? | 15:28 |
EvilRoey | oh hi BluesKaj | 15:28 |
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kubuntu_ | aye whats up | 15:30 |
Guest66760 | HI BOYS | 15:30 |
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GNARLY | HELLO | 15:31 |
kubuntu_ | hey | 15:31 |
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frankTM | @GNARLY | 15:31 |
GNARLY | @frankTM | 15:31 |
BluesKaj | EvilRoey, netstat -nat command is one | 15:37 |
EvilRoey | ok I suppose so, yes | 15:37 |
BluesKaj | EvilRoey, , not al your networked computers | 15:38 |
BluesKaj | just the one you're using | 15:39 |
EvilRoey | okkkkk | 15:42 |
EvilRoey | * okk | 15:42 |
EvilRoey | sorry, my keyboard's weird | 15:43 |
viewer|35529 | Is there an on-screen keyboard in Kubuntu or is it only accessible on the lock screen? | 15:58 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: should I also try general linux channel? | 16:03 |
BluesKaj | sure | 16:08 |
BluesKaj | viewer|35529, look for virtual keyboard in the package manager, there are a few choices | 16:09 |
IrcsomeBot | <bauchhaus> What's the best way to configure a synaptics touchpad? I want no taps and no areas defined but one finger klick is left mouse button and two finger klick is right mouse button. | 16:29 |
skomorokh | "No candidate version found for unetbootin" ...is there a new recommended tool for building a bootable Kubuntu install usb? The page linked from the release notes is timing out http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/installation.html | 16:41 |
rik-shaw | skomorokh: I prefer mkusb-nox (simple terminal version, but mkusb is there with a GUI if you want that). | 16:49 |
rik-shaw | By default it takes the whole stick, and makes it read-only so is good for a UEFI compatible installer. | 16:50 |
skomorokh | Doesn't seem to be in the repos or snap :( | 16:50 |
rik-shaw | I use multibootusb if you don't need UEFI and want to use the drive for other things and want multiple Linux installers on one stick. http://multibootusb.org/ | 16:50 |
skomorokh | Thanks, I'll give mkusb-nox a try, CLI + gets things right for UEFI the first time sounds like just the thing. | 16:51 |
rik-shaw | yes. agreed! Sorry can't recall if in main repos but if want most up-to-date can use ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mkusb/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 16:52 |
rik-shaw | with stick installed, run "sudo mkusb-nox /path/to/iso.iso" and it has a nice interactive process from there. | 16:53 |
batteronizer | Hi, has anyone else noticed icons in the panel sometimes showing the wrong state/not updating in 18.04? Seems like a bug. | 16:59 |
viewer|56291 | Does Kubuntu have a virtual/on-screen keyboard installed by default? | 18:03 |
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mattfly | hi | 20:40 |
mattfly | anyone on a nvidia laptop? | 20:40 |
R13ose | BluesKaj: ping | 20:40 |
valorie | mattfly: I have one here; what's your question? | 21:02 |
mattfly | hey are you able to hibernate on ur laptop? | 21:02 |
mattfly | you have the nvidia-390 driver? | 21:03 |
mattfly | kubuntu bionic? | 21:03 |
mattfly | wait arent you the guy i just talked with not so long ago | 21:06 |
valorie | I'm not a guy! so ..... | 21:10 |
valorie | :-) | 21:10 |
valorie | hmm, never have tried to hibernate | 21:11 |
valorie | I basically never shut it down | 21:11 |
valorie | Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.12.5 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) powered by Linux 4.15.0-20-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3399-3400/3800 MHz, RAM: 30959/32119 MB, Storage: 280/1144 GB, 273 procs, 643.12h up | 21:11 |
valorie | my other little laptop hibernates perfectly but it is not nvidia | 21:11 |
valorie | checking to see what driver I'm using | 21:12 |
mattfly | is it a laptop? | 21:12 |
valorie | yes, both | 21:12 |
mattfly | oha | 21:12 |
mattfly | i have reported a bug | 21:12 |
valorie | yup, 390 | 21:12 |
valorie | ok, what's the bug number? | 21:13 |
mattfly | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/1770491 | 21:13 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1770491 in uswsusp (Ubuntu) "Hibernation doesnt work after installing nvidia-384(s2disk hangs)" [Undecided,New] | 21:13 |
valorie | I'll try to test for you | 21:13 |
mattfly | whenever you can | 21:13 |
mattfly | try to see if you can hibernate | 21:13 |
valorie | oh, 384 | 21:13 |
mattfly | no | 21:13 |
mattfly | thats the package name | 21:13 |
mattfly | nvidia-384 | 21:13 |
valorie | ? | 21:13 |
mattfly | the driver is 390 | 21:13 |
mattfly | idk why they make this mess | 21:13 |
valorie | that's pointlessly confusing | 21:14 |
mattfly | the ubuntu package nvidia-384 installs the driver named 390 | 21:14 |
mattfly | you can check it there | 21:14 |
mattfly | try to see if hibernation works there anyway, im having this isssue since the alpha | 21:14 |
mattfly | whenever you can | 21:14 |
mattfly | and if you have the same problem reported there, give some feedback or tell me at least | 21:15 |
valorie | I can try this later today | 21:16 |
valorie | right now I'm trying to test the newest plasma | 21:16 |
mattfly | oh 5.13? | 21:17 |
mattfly | have you added the backports ppas? | 21:17 |
valorie | did you see this, mattfly? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/667833 | 21:17 |
valorie | https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-5-bugfix-update-for-kubuntu-18-04-lts-testing-help-required/ | 21:18 |
mattfly | yes i posted that | 21:18 |
valorie | ok | 21:18 |
valorie | so there are eyes on this, good | 21:18 |
mattfly | not really | 21:18 |
valorie | I always use backports, yes | 21:18 |
mattfly | nobody recognizes the bug so far | 21:18 |
valorie | but we need to test the 5.12.5 release so that it can go into the point release in July | 21:19 |
acheronuk | 5.13 is still beta | 21:20 |
mattfly | so 5.13 will never be part of kubuntu bionic? | 21:20 |
valorie | mattfly: not as part of point releases | 21:21 |
acheronuk | mattfly: not in the main archive. it is not an LTS release, and depends on a not LTS Qt version. we will very likely have in a PPA for bionic for those who want leap off the LTS train | 21:21 |
valorie | 5.12 Plasma is LTS, so we want to keep that for our lts > lts people | 21:22 |
mattfly | alright | 21:22 |
* valorie will leap into the future | 21:22 | |
acheronuk | https://i.imgur.com/zBm13Jf.png | 21:23 |
* acheronuk hides | 21:24 | |
valorie | https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/kde-plasma-5-13-features-upgrade | 21:25 |
valorie | :-) | 21:25 |
valorie | gosh, give me a minute dude, and I'll catch up! | 21:25 |
mattfly | yeah i saw that this morning | 21:26 |
valorie | hmmm, they got it a bit wrong as we've not decided whether or not to use the Backports PPA for this upgrade | 21:28 |
valorie | since they didn't ask..... | 21:28 |
acheronuk | many things in these articles are guesses based what happened before | 21:30 |
valorie | yup | 21:33 |
IrcsomeBot | <weltimeister> @valorie, I would love to get 5.13 but I love stability. So I would like the idea to jump to 5.13.4 (or even 5.13.5) once it got out and stay with 5.12 until then. | 21:37 |
acheronuk | even if we decide to put 5.13 in the main backports PPA, I think it unlikely will will push packages to it until at least the .2 or .3 bugfix release. keeping packages somewhere else for testing until then | 21:42 |
IrcsomeBot | <weltimeister> @acheronuk, Ah! 😊 That is good to hear. Thank you for the info! | 21:49 |
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valorie | IMO something like "plasma-backports" PPA would make sense -- depending on the state of Qt in the archive I suppose | 22:07 |
evlich | i just installed kubuntu 18.04 using the minimal install option and it is a bit too minimal for me. is there an easy way (i.e. without reinstalling) to install the full installation? | 22:22 |
Lord_chencho | nice job kubuntu team! | 22:24 |
valorie | evlich: sure, just install whatever you like from either the commandline or using Discover or Muon | 22:41 |
valorie | as usual | 22:41 |
valorie | oh, and if you want everything, just sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop | 22:42 |
valorie | that will pick up everything you missed | 22:42 |
valorie | or you can do that via muon/discover | 22:43 |
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