[02:00] <cyb0rg> hi, is there a way to make alt+tab cycle through windows instead of show desktop?
[02:01] <cyb0rg> Plasma is pretty cool so far, but wtf is up with that change?
[02:04] <cyb0rg> ok, found the shortcut hidden in an inappropriate menu ("system settings" shortcuts. Cycling windows is not a system setting)
[02:05] <cyb0rg> ok now I am more confused. alt+tab is already walk through windows, but it just switches between showing the desktop or my windows.
[02:12] <cyb0rg> ok, found this issue. It was having it set to cycle through activities. I thought that meant windows within all activities. A bit ambiguous, but fair enough.
[02:40] <Ichsan> Hi Kubuntu developers. I've been Kubuntu fans since its early releases. After upgraded my Kubuntu from 16.04 into 18.04, I saw many good things. It's so awesome running on my gaming notebook! And I just want to say thank you for the greatest OS I've ever used!
[03:13] <designbybeck> WHY KDE WHY!... 18.04!? still randomness!? I want to love you... I really really do! You were so much more closer to Unity 16.04  with some configuring
[03:13] <designbybeck> I can't even do a screen shot with Shutter!
[03:13] <designbybeck> :( makes me so sad.... so so sad...what do I do with my life
 @designbybeck, That's because of Wayland
 @designbybeck, Switch back to X.org
[03:15] <designbybeck> IrcsomeBot:  !?!?! Wayland!? is it in Kubuntu? or in Gnome!?
[03:16] <designbybeck> I agree we need something beside of x.org!
[03:16] <designbybeck> Wayland was something, Mir? was it? was something else? but just make it all work
[03:18] <designbybeck> I had this configured as close to Unity as I could...it was so sweet! streamlined ..Gnome was close..it was.. And I wanted to enjoy it
[03:19] <designbybeck> I can enlarge my font/text for date/time, but not my icons
 @designbybeck, System Settings -> icons .... Advanced tab -> Panel.... set the size and restart plasma is change is not immediate.
 ^if change^
[03:22] <designbybeck> no no no DarinMiller... the taskbar
[03:23] <designbybeck> I can't do a screen shot with Shutter or I'd show you... Shutter is the best for that...so easy in ANY other distro!
 Oh, right click on task bar and use the slider to change icon size.
[03:23] <designbybeck> MAKE ME LOVE YOU! ....I'll be your best friend!  I'll promote many great things!
[03:24] <designbybeck> no no no.... see DarinMiller this was the great thing about Unity!... SIMPLE... streamlined ....gets out of your way
[03:24] <designbybeck> I do graphic design, video editing, 3D, I want my screen real estate!
[03:25] <designbybeck> I want VERY little OS in my way... Let me work!
 Unity is still available as far as I know.... I personally hide all my panels so I have 100% screen realestate.
[03:25] <designbybeck> ...by the way, I must say I'm on a HiDEF screen, so maybe that has a lil' to do with this
[03:25] <designbybeck> on a lptop
[03:25] <designbybeck> laptop
 Me too.
[03:26] <designbybeck> Hmmmm.....
[03:26] <designbybeck> but I want to see give or take 20px bar with date/time
[03:26] <designbybeck> easy HUD with "super" key
[03:27] <designbybeck> and Shutter to work out of the box . Along with hot corners for desktops
 The upper right hot corner is the only corner defined by default in kde, the rest are up to the user.
[03:29] <designbybeck> yeah I got of few of those lined out. Which I like!
 I 100% agree with you in regards to Spectacle...needs lots of work to catch up with other screen capture tools.
[03:29] <designbybeck> what is Spectacle?
 The default screen capture tool.
[03:30] <designbybeck> ...I only revisit KDE/Kubuntu once a year give or take! ? I do like what they have going on,....just over complicated....to much.  Don't be Windows...
[03:31] <designbybeck> I don't know Spectacle? Do You know Shutter? I haven't met its equal in LInux?
 The devs are very responsive to input.  If someone puts up a good case for better defaults, they make it happen.  Those of us that use it for a while are used to the complication and forget that not everyone has the same background.
[03:33] <designbybeck> I can respect that DarinMiller... and I understand that! ...which is why I'd love to win the Lotto and pay them all  :)
 Yes, I have used an like shutter very much.
[03:34] <designbybeck> I try to teach streamlined, efficient, Open Source useage in all I do
[03:36] <designbybeck> My Love/Hate with KDE/Kubuntu is to complex for streamlineness. I was brainstorming on BEKoS ...(BECK OS) ...(forgot what I was calling it) But I was going to take all the KDE stuff and take out all the no needed settings for basic
[03:38] <designbybeck> It would be great for KDE Lite... Mirror what Unity was. I know there have been a few settings along those lines
[03:38] <designbybeck> Themes and such
 I see a couple in the Theme downloads:
 (Photo, 775x681) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/iH03pJAw/file_7088.jpg
[03:40] <designbybeck> Though I understand if I learn programming myself I can help the cause! I am just not there yet!
[03:40] <designbybeck> ....I'm like a noob!
[05:17] <jozo> hello
[05:17] <jozo> I am not able to set mouse cursor shape in config
[05:18] <jozo> When I download ubuntuaero mouse cursor theme
[05:18] <jozo> arrow cursor is OK
[05:18] <jozo> but of I go on the link in chrome for example cursor is black
[05:19] <jozo> how can be this fixed ?
[05:19] <jozo> also it is not possible to set usb mouse sensitivity
[05:21] <jozo> https://store.kde.org/p/999992/ this theme btw
[05:21] <valorie> it's possible that the theme doesn't work for Gtk applications such as chrome
[05:21] <valorie> have you tried Falkon?
[05:21] <valorie> it has totally replaced chrome for me
[05:22] <valorie> !info falkon
[05:22] <jozo> valorie: it is also not working with qt apps
[05:23] <jozo> valorie: and on kubuntu 14.04 it works for everything
[05:23] <valorie> interesting
[05:23] <valorie> well, we don't support things we don't package
[05:23] <valorie> and we don't package themes
[05:23] <jozo> ah :(
[05:24] <valorie> so I guess check with the person who wrote the theme?
[05:24] <valorie> perhaps some code changed in the past 2 years
[05:26] <jozo> and has kubuntu cursors similar as windows 7 ?in oficial package ?
[05:26] <valorie> not that I know of
[05:26] <valorie> I rarely change the defaults
[05:27] <valorie> don't know what cursors looked like in win7
[05:27] <valorie> not sure I ever used it
[05:28] <jozo> ok thanks
[05:29] <valorie> I mean, we could, but I don't know about it
[11:55] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:19] <R13ose> Hi BluesKaj
[12:31] <BluesKaj> hi R13ose
[12:33] <timsag3> bye all! ^^
[12:35] <R13ose> BluesKaj: what's up?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> morning coffee here,  how about you, R13ose?
[12:43] <R13ose> Trying to solve my issues as always :)
[12:58] <BluesKaj> R13ose, remind me , what's the issue again?
[13:11] <R13ose> BluesKaj: trying to solve that kubuntu locks when booting up and unsure why.  I see the kubuntu but never get to login screen or desktop
[13:12] <BluesKaj> black screen with blinking cursor?
[13:17] <R13ose> BluesKaj: actually nope, I see kubuntu logo and I hit escape and then when this stops the blinking cursor stays then and then disappears.  I don't know if this is waiting for something but I feel this is too long.
[13:18] <BluesKaj> ctl+alt+F2-F6, login with username and pw , then sudo nano /etc/default/grub, then edit the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" by replacing "quiet splash" with nomodeset. Then ctl + o , enter, ctl + x to save and exit , then at the prompt , run  sudo update grub, then reboot
[13:19] <BluesKaj> correction: sudo update-grub
[13:21] <R13ose> I have also tried fsck and now badblocks.
[13:22] <R13ose> BluesKaj: where do I do what you are saying?
[13:23] <BluesKaj> in the black screen
[13:25] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I have to wait for badblocks to finish. Yet, there is no black screen but you mean when this is trying to boot, right?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:26] <R13ose> BluesKaj: should I try one boot after badblocks before doing yours or go straight into yours?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> depends , do you get the black screena fter bad blocks?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> after
[13:28] <R13ose> I have to wait and see.  Can we use a different word to black screen?
[13:28] <elichai2> Hey
[13:30] <elichai2> plasmashell stopped working in my laptop, when I start it I get sddm but after the launch only a terminal opens, if I run `plasmashell` in the terminal I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X9473nT35n/ and inside dmesg I have: `[  200.667715] plasmashell[5773]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fabb9d1d526 sp 00007ffff6e1a400 error 4 in libkcupslib.so[7fabb9ce1000+55000]`
[13:31] <BluesKaj> R13ose, using ctl+alt+F2 to F6 gives you a TTY/VT which is a virtual terminal like the konsole, and then run the command i mentioned
[13:31] <elichai2> any ideas what to do? (I tried removing everything from that mentions kde/plasma from my HOME\.config\.cache, and tried to upgrade kde from the backports ppa)
[13:32] <elichai2> it might be because of this but i'm not sure: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FNBPtfFxmV/
[13:33] <R13ose> BluesKaj: yes I know but does that work at boot screen?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> it should work after the Kubuntu logo disappears
[13:35] <R13ose> BluesKaj: what if kubuntu logo doesn't disappear?  I can't remember if this does or not
[13:36] <BluesKaj> elichai2, run sudo apt full-upgrade when the terminal appears
[13:37] <BluesKaj> R13ose, well, try rebooting to see
[13:37] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I will after badblocks, okay?
[13:37] <elichai2> BluesKaj: will it update to 18.04? I don't want to bring more problems, I'm right now on fully updated 17.10
[13:38] <BluesKaj> R13ose, don't run bad blocks
[13:39] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I already did and done 60%+
[13:40] <BluesKaj> elichai2, no it just upgrades all existing packages
[13:40] <BluesKaj> R13ose, then let i finish and try then
[13:41] <R13ose> BluesKaj: thanks.  I will let you know when done which is super slow.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> you could cancel it, ctl+c
[13:43] <R13ose> BluesKaj: will that cause any issues?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> it's just a scan afiak
[13:44] <R13ose> BluesKaj: What are the errors it says are there?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> dunno
[13:47] <R13ose> Might take hours more to finish.  I will cancel and see what happens.
[13:48] <elichai2> BluesKaj: ok, I did a full-upgrade
[13:49] <BluesKaj> elichai2, any upgrades happen?
[13:49] <elichai2> Nope
[13:51] <R13ose> BluesKaj: how long should I work a logo screen?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> elichai2, run sudo dpkg --configure -a. then sudo apt  -f install
[13:52] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I am at busybox built-in shell noe
[13:52] <R13ose> now*
[13:53] <elichai2> BluesKaj: ran, nothing happened
[13:53] <BluesKaj> R13ose, til the the logo disappears and the blinking cursor in the top left appears
[13:54] <R13ose> Ok.
[13:54] <R13ose> BluesKaj: any thoughts what to do at busybox built-in shell?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> yeah R13ose\, reboot
[13:55] <BluesKaj> don't run bad blocks again
[13:55] <R13ose> Okay sorry
[14:03] <BluesKaj> elichai2, run sudo apt install --reinstall cups
[14:05] <R13ose> BluesKaj: says mount: can't find /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root in fstab.  How to fix?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> R13ose, are you using LVM  or some kind of new file system
[14:10] <R13ose> LVM
[14:15] <BluesKaj> dunno much about LVM, since i don't need it ..think you need to do some research how fstab handles LVM partitions, R13ose
[14:17] <R13ose> Thanks
[14:18] <BluesKaj> R13ose, also since it's not dektop releated you could ask in #ubuntu chat as well. There a re quite few knowlegeable people there regarding LVM etc
[14:19] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I shouldn't ask in #lvm?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> you could ask there too , of course
[14:20] <R13ose> Okay thanks
[14:20] <BluesKaj> np
[14:23] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I asked in both and will wait
[14:29] <R13ose> BluesKaj: where is boot log?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> R13ose, in /var/log
[14:48] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I don't see log but I didn't go into the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg- ones
[14:48] <BluesKaj> r  look in root in dolphin, then/var/log
[14:49] <BluesKaj> brb,...gotta reboot
[14:56] <R13ose> BluesKaj: I am in busybox built-in shell not GUI
[15:00] <R13ose> BluesKaj: also the person helped me in #ubuntu said they don't anymore
[15:05] <BluesKaj> don't help, whynot?
[15:14] <R13ose> BluesKaj: only pointed me to a link that didn't work out
[15:15] <R13ose> BluesKaj: should I try: https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/recovering-from-unbootable-ubuntu-encrypted-lvm-root-partition/
[15:22] <BluesKaj> I really don't know much about busybox, used it a few times with e2fsck to fix a boot problem caused by my W7 install, but  got rid of windows and no longer have the problem
[15:23] <R13ose> Okay.
[15:28] <EvilRoey> what tools exist to give a sort of ActiveDirectory-like view to network management of Linux boxes?
[15:28] <EvilRoey> oh hi BluesKaj
[15:30] <kubuntu_> aye whats up
[15:30] <Guest66760> HI BOYS
[15:31] <GNARLY> HELLO
[15:31] <kubuntu_> hey
[15:31] <frankTM> @GNARLY
[15:31] <GNARLY> @frankTM
[15:37] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, netstat -nat command is one
[15:37] <EvilRoey> ok I suppose so, yes
[15:38] <BluesKaj> EvilRoey, , not al your networked computers
[15:39] <BluesKaj> just the one you're using
[15:42] <EvilRoey> okkkkk
[15:42] <EvilRoey> * okk
[15:43] <EvilRoey> sorry, my keyboard's weird
[15:58] <viewer|35529> Is there an on-screen keyboard in Kubuntu or is it only accessible on the lock screen?
[16:03] <R13ose> BluesKaj: should I also try general linux channel?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> sure
[16:09] <BluesKaj> viewer|35529, look for virtual keyboard in the package manager, there are a few choices
 What's the best way to configure a synaptics touchpad? I want no taps and no areas defined but one finger klick is left mouse button and two finger klick is right mouse button.
[16:41] <skomorokh> "No candidate version found for unetbootin" ...is there a new recommended tool for building a bootable Kubuntu install usb? The page linked from the release notes is timing out http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/installation.html
[16:49] <rik-shaw> skomorokh: I prefer mkusb-nox (simple terminal version, but mkusb is there with a GUI if you want that).
[16:50] <rik-shaw> By default it takes the whole stick, and makes it read-only so is good for a UEFI compatible installer.
[16:50] <skomorokh> Doesn't seem to be in the repos or snap :(
[16:50] <rik-shaw> I use multibootusb if you don't need UEFI and want to use the drive for other things and want multiple Linux installers on one stick.  http://multibootusb.org/
[16:51] <skomorokh> Thanks, I'll give mkusb-nox a try, CLI + gets things right for UEFI the first time sounds like just the thing.
[16:52] <rik-shaw> yes. agreed!  Sorry can't recall if in main repos but if want most up-to-date can use ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mkusb/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:53] <rik-shaw> with stick installed, run "sudo mkusb-nox /path/to/iso.iso" and it has a nice interactive process from there.
[16:59] <batteronizer> Hi, has anyone else noticed icons in the panel sometimes showing the wrong state/not updating in 18.04? Seems like a bug.
[18:03] <viewer|56291> Does Kubuntu have a virtual/on-screen keyboard installed by default?
[20:40] <mattfly> hi
[20:40] <mattfly> anyone on a nvidia laptop?
[20:40] <R13ose> BluesKaj: ping
[21:02] <valorie> mattfly: I have one here; what's your question?
[21:02] <mattfly> hey are you able to hibernate on ur laptop?
[21:03] <mattfly> you have the nvidia-390 driver?
[21:03] <mattfly> kubuntu bionic?
[21:06] <mattfly> wait arent you the guy i just talked with not so long ago
[21:10] <valorie> I'm not a guy! so .....
[21:10] <valorie> :-)
[21:11] <valorie> hmm, never have tried to hibernate
[21:11] <valorie> I basically never shut it down
[21:11] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.12.5 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) powered by Linux 4.15.0-20-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3399-3400/3800 MHz, RAM: 30959/32119 MB, Storage: 280/1144 GB, 273 procs, 643.12h up
[21:11] <valorie> my other little laptop hibernates perfectly but it is not nvidia
[21:12] <valorie> checking to see what driver I'm using
[21:12] <mattfly> is it a laptop?
[21:12] <valorie> yes, both
[21:12] <mattfly> oha
[21:12] <mattfly> i have reported a bug
[21:12] <valorie> yup, 390
[21:13] <valorie> ok, what's the bug number?
[21:13] <mattfly> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/1770491
[21:13] <valorie> I'll try to test for you
[21:13] <mattfly> whenever you can
[21:13] <mattfly> try to see if you can hibernate
[21:13] <valorie> oh, 384
[21:13] <mattfly> no
[21:13] <mattfly> thats the package name
[21:13] <mattfly> nvidia-384
[21:13] <valorie> ?
[21:13] <mattfly> the driver is 390
[21:13] <mattfly> idk why they make this mess
[21:14] <valorie> that's pointlessly confusing
[21:14] <mattfly> the ubuntu package nvidia-384 installs the driver named 390
[21:14] <mattfly> you can check it there
[21:14] <mattfly> try to see if hibernation works there anyway, im having this isssue since the alpha
[21:14] <mattfly> whenever you can
[21:15] <mattfly> and if you have the same problem reported there, give some feedback or tell me at least
[21:16] <valorie> I can try this later today
[21:16] <valorie> right now I'm trying to test the newest plasma
[21:17] <mattfly> oh 5.13?
[21:17] <mattfly> have you added the backports ppas?
[21:17] <valorie> did you see this, mattfly? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/667833
[21:18] <valorie> https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-5-bugfix-update-for-kubuntu-18-04-lts-testing-help-required/
[21:18] <mattfly> yes i posted that
[21:18] <valorie> ok
[21:18] <valorie> so there are eyes on this, good
[21:18] <mattfly> not really
[21:18] <valorie> I always use backports, yes
[21:18] <mattfly> nobody recognizes the bug so far
[21:19] <valorie> but we need to test the 5.12.5 release so that it can go into the point release in July
[21:20] <acheronuk> 5.13 is still beta
[21:20] <mattfly> so 5.13 will never be part of kubuntu bionic?
[21:21] <valorie> mattfly: not as part of point releases
[21:21] <acheronuk> mattfly: not in the main archive. it is not an LTS release, and depends on a not LTS Qt version. we will very likely have in a PPA for bionic for those who want leap off the LTS train
[21:22] <valorie> 5.12 Plasma is LTS, so we want to keep that for our lts > lts people
[21:22] <mattfly> alright
[21:22]  * valorie will leap into the future
[21:23] <acheronuk> https://i.imgur.com/zBm13Jf.png
[21:24]  * acheronuk hides
[21:25] <valorie> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/kde-plasma-5-13-features-upgrade
[21:25] <valorie> :-)
[21:25] <valorie> gosh, give me a minute dude, and I'll catch up!
[21:26] <mattfly> yeah i saw that this morning
[21:28] <valorie> hmmm, they got it a bit wrong as we've not decided whether or not to use the Backports PPA for this upgrade
[21:28] <valorie> since they didn't ask.....
[21:30] <acheronuk> many things in these articles are guesses based what happened before
[21:33] <valorie> yup
 @valorie, I would love to get 5.13 but I love stability. So I would like the idea to jump to 5.13.4 (or even 5.13.5) once it got out and stay with 5.12 until then.
[21:42] <acheronuk> even if we decide to put 5.13 in the main backports PPA, I think it unlikely will will push packages to it until at least the .2 or .3 bugfix release. keeping packages somewhere else for testing until then
 @acheronuk, Ah! 😊 That is good to hear. Thank you for the info!
[22:07] <valorie> IMO something like "plasma-backports" PPA would make sense -- depending on the state of Qt in the archive I suppose
[22:22] <evlich> i just installed kubuntu 18.04 using the minimal install option and it is a bit too minimal for me. is there an easy way (i.e. without reinstalling) to install the full installation?
[22:24] <Lord_chencho> nice job kubuntu team!
[22:41] <valorie> evlich: sure, just install whatever you like from either the commandline or using Discover or Muon
[22:41] <valorie> as usual
[22:42] <valorie> oh, and if you want everything, just sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[22:42] <valorie> that will pick up everything you missed
[22:43] <valorie> or you can do that via muon/discover