[02:00] hi, is there a way to make alt+tab cycle through windows instead of show desktop? [02:01] Plasma is pretty cool so far, but wtf is up with that change? [02:04] ok, found the shortcut hidden in an inappropriate menu ("system settings" shortcuts. Cycling windows is not a system setting) [02:05] ok now I am more confused. alt+tab is already walk through windows, but it just switches between showing the desktop or my windows. [02:12] ok, found this issue. It was having it set to cycle through activities. I thought that meant windows within all activities. A bit ambiguous, but fair enough. [02:40] Hi Kubuntu developers. I've been Kubuntu fans since its early releases. After upgraded my Kubuntu from 16.04 into 18.04, I saw many good things. It's so awesome running on my gaming notebook! And I just want to say thank you for the greatest OS I've ever used! [03:13] WHY KDE WHY!... 18.04!? still randomness!? I want to love you... I really really do! You were so much more closer to Unity 16.04 with some configuring [03:13] I can't even do a screen shot with Shutter! [03:13] :( makes me so sad.... so so sad...what do I do with my life [03:15] @designbybeck, That's because of Wayland [03:15] @designbybeck, Switch back to X.org [03:15] IrcsomeBot: !?!?! Wayland!? is it in Kubuntu? or in Gnome!? [03:16] I agree we need something beside of x.org! [03:16] Wayland was something, Mir? was it? was something else? but just make it all work [03:18] I had this configured as close to Unity as I could...it was so sweet! streamlined ..Gnome was close..it was.. And I wanted to enjoy it [03:19] I can enlarge my font/text for date/time, but not my icons [03:21] @designbybeck, System Settings -> icons .... Advanced tab -> Panel.... set the size and restart plasma is change is not immediate. [03:21] ^if change^ [03:22] no no no DarinMiller... the taskbar [03:23] I can't do a screen shot with Shutter or I'd show you... Shutter is the best for that...so easy in ANY other distro! [03:23] Oh, right click on task bar and use the slider to change icon size. [03:23] MAKE ME LOVE YOU! ....I'll be your best friend! I'll promote many great things! [03:24] no no no.... see DarinMiller this was the great thing about Unity!... SIMPLE... streamlined ....gets out of your way [03:24] I do graphic design, video editing, 3D, I want my screen real estate! [03:25] I want VERY little OS in my way... Let me work! [03:25] Unity is still available as far as I know.... I personally hide all my panels so I have 100% screen realestate. [03:25] ...by the way, I must say I'm on a HiDEF screen, so maybe that has a lil' to do with this [03:25] on a lptop [03:25] laptop [03:26] Me too. [03:26] Hmmmm..... [03:26] but I want to see give or take 20px bar with date/time [03:26] easy HUD with "super" key [03:27] and Shutter to work out of the box . Along with hot corners for desktops [03:28] The upper right hot corner is the only corner defined by default in kde, the rest are up to the user. [03:29] yeah I got of few of those lined out. Which I like! [03:29] I 100% agree with you in regards to Spectacle...needs lots of work to catch up with other screen capture tools. [03:29] what is Spectacle? [03:30] The default screen capture tool. [03:30] ...I only revisit KDE/Kubuntu once a year give or take! ? I do like what they have going on,....just over complicated....to much. Don't be Windows... [03:31] I don't know Spectacle? Do You know Shutter? I haven't met its equal in LInux? [03:32] The devs are very responsive to input. If someone puts up a good case for better defaults, they make it happen. Those of us that use it for a while are used to the complication and forget that not everyone has the same background. [03:33] I can respect that DarinMiller... and I understand that! ...which is why I'd love to win the Lotto and pay them all :) [03:33] Yes, I have used an like shutter very much. [03:34] * DarinMiller would do exactly the same if I win the lotto. [03:34] I try to teach streamlined, efficient, Open Source useage in all I do === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [03:36] My Love/Hate with KDE/Kubuntu is to complex for streamlineness. I was brainstorming on BEKoS ...(BECK OS) ...(forgot what I was calling it) But I was going to take all the KDE stuff and take out all the no needed settings for basic [03:38] It would be great for KDE Lite... Mirror what Unity was. I know there have been a few settings along those lines [03:38] Themes and such [03:39] I see a couple in the Theme downloads: [03:40] (Photo, 775x681) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/iH03pJAw/file_7088.jpg [03:40] Though I understand if I learn programming myself I can help the cause! I am just not there yet! [03:40] ....I'm like a noob! === jason is now known as Guest92528 [05:17] hello [05:17] I am not able to set mouse cursor shape in config [05:18] When I download ubuntuaero mouse cursor theme [05:18] arrow cursor is OK [05:18] but of I go on the link in chrome for example cursor is black [05:19] how can be this fixed ? [05:19] also it is not possible to set usb mouse sensitivity [05:21] https://store.kde.org/p/999992/ this theme btw [05:21] it's possible that the theme doesn't work for Gtk applications such as chrome [05:21] have you tried Falkon? [05:21] it has totally replaced chrome for me [05:22] !info falkon [05:22] falkon (source: falkon): lightweight web browser based on Qt WebEngine. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu3 (bionic), package size 2092 kB, installed size 9873 kB [05:22] valorie: it is also not working with qt apps [05:23] valorie: and on kubuntu 14.04 it works for everything [05:23] interesting [05:23] well, we don't support things we don't package [05:23] and we don't package themes [05:23] ah :( [05:24] so I guess check with the person who wrote the theme? [05:24] perhaps some code changed in the past 2 years [05:26] and has kubuntu cursors similar as windows 7 ?in oficial package ? [05:26] not that I know of [05:26] I rarely change the defaults [05:27] don't know what cursors looked like in win7 [05:27] not sure I ever used it [05:28] ok thanks [05:29] I mean, we could, but I don't know about it === berk_ is now known as onlyabyte [09:47] Ivan Coronel was added by: Ivan Coronel === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [11:55] Howdy all [12:19] Hi BluesKaj [12:31] hi R13ose [12:33] bye all! ^^ [12:35] BluesKaj: what's up? [12:42] morning coffee here, how about you, R13ose? [12:43] Trying to solve my issues as always :) [12:58] R13ose, remind me , what's the issue again? [13:11] BluesKaj: trying to solve that kubuntu locks when booting up and unsure why. I see the kubuntu but never get to login screen or desktop [13:12] black screen with blinking cursor? [13:17] BluesKaj: actually nope, I see kubuntu logo and I hit escape and then when this stops the blinking cursor stays then and then disappears. I don't know if this is waiting for something but I feel this is too long. [13:18] ctl+alt+F2-F6, login with username and pw , then sudo nano /etc/default/grub, then edit the line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" by replacing "quiet splash" with nomodeset. Then ctl + o , enter, ctl + x to save and exit , then at the prompt , run sudo update grub, then reboot [13:19] correction: sudo update-grub [13:21] I have also tried fsck and now badblocks. [13:22] BluesKaj: where do I do what you are saying? [13:23] in the black screen [13:25] BluesKaj: I have to wait for badblocks to finish. Yet, there is no black screen but you mean when this is trying to boot, right? [13:25] yes [13:26] BluesKaj: should I try one boot after badblocks before doing yours or go straight into yours? [13:27] depends , do you get the black screena fter bad blocks? [13:27] after [13:28] I have to wait and see. Can we use a different word to black screen? [13:28] Hey [13:30] plasmashell stopped working in my laptop, when I start it I get sddm but after the launch only a terminal opens, if I run `plasmashell` in the terminal I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X9473nT35n/ and inside dmesg I have: `[ 200.667715] plasmashell[5773]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fabb9d1d526 sp 00007ffff6e1a400 error 4 in libkcupslib.so[7fabb9ce1000+55000]` [13:31] R13ose, using ctl+alt+F2 to F6 gives you a TTY/VT which is a virtual terminal like the konsole, and then run the command i mentioned [13:31] any ideas what to do? (I tried removing everything from that mentions kde/plasma from my HOME\.config\.cache, and tried to upgrade kde from the backports ppa) [13:32] it might be because of this but i'm not sure: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FNBPtfFxmV/ [13:33] BluesKaj: yes I know but does that work at boot screen? [13:34] it should work after the Kubuntu logo disappears [13:35] BluesKaj: what if kubuntu logo doesn't disappear? I can't remember if this does or not [13:36] elichai2, run sudo apt full-upgrade when the terminal appears [13:37] R13ose, well, try rebooting to see [13:37] BluesKaj: I will after badblocks, okay? [13:37] BluesKaj: will it update to 18.04? I don't want to bring more problems, I'm right now on fully updated 17.10 [13:38] R13ose, don't run bad blocks [13:39] BluesKaj: I already did and done 60%+ [13:40] elichai2, no it just upgrades all existing packages [13:40] R13ose, then let i finish and try then [13:41] BluesKaj: thanks. I will let you know when done which is super slow. [13:43] you could cancel it, ctl+c [13:43] BluesKaj: will that cause any issues? [13:43] it's just a scan afiak [13:44] BluesKaj: What are the errors it says are there? [13:46] dunno [13:47] Might take hours more to finish. I will cancel and see what happens. [13:48] BluesKaj: ok, I did a full-upgrade [13:49] elichai2, any upgrades happen? [13:49] Nope [13:51] BluesKaj: how long should I work a logo screen? [13:52] elichai2, run sudo dpkg --configure -a. then sudo apt -f install [13:52] BluesKaj: I am at busybox built-in shell noe [13:52] now* [13:53] BluesKaj: ran, nothing happened [13:53] R13ose, til the the logo disappears and the blinking cursor in the top left appears [13:54] Ok. [13:54] BluesKaj: any thoughts what to do at busybox built-in shell? [13:55] yeah R13ose\, reboot [13:55] don't run bad blocks again [13:55] Okay sorry === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [14:03] elichai2, run sudo apt install --reinstall cups [14:05] BluesKaj: says mount: can't find /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root in fstab. How to fix? [14:09] R13ose, are you using LVM or some kind of new file system [14:10] LVM [14:15] dunno much about LVM, since i don't need it ..think you need to do some research how fstab handles LVM partitions, R13ose [14:17] Thanks [14:18] R13ose, also since it's not dektop releated you could ask in #ubuntu chat as well. There a re quite few knowlegeable people there regarding LVM etc [14:19] BluesKaj: I shouldn't ask in #lvm? [14:20] you could ask there too , of course [14:20] Okay thanks [14:20] np [14:23] BluesKaj: I asked in both and will wait [14:29] BluesKaj: where is boot log? [14:47] R13ose, in /var/log [14:48] BluesKaj: I don't see log but I didn't go into the /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg- ones [14:48] r look in root in dolphin, then/var/log [14:49] brb,...gotta reboot [14:56] BluesKaj: I am in busybox built-in shell not GUI [15:00] BluesKaj: also the person helped me in #ubuntu said they don't anymore [15:05] don't help, whynot? [15:14] BluesKaj: only pointed me to a link that didn't work out [15:15] BluesKaj: should I try: https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/recovering-from-unbootable-ubuntu-encrypted-lvm-root-partition/ [15:22] I really don't know much about busybox, used it a few times with e2fsck to fix a boot problem caused by my W7 install, but got rid of windows and no longer have the problem [15:23] Okay. === Arthur_MD is now known as Arthur_D [15:28] what tools exist to give a sort of ActiveDirectory-like view to network management of Linux boxes? [15:28] oh hi BluesKaj === kubuntu is now known as Guest66760 [15:30] aye whats up [15:30] HI BOYS === Guest66760 is now known as GNARLY [15:31] HELLO [15:31] hey === kubuntu_ is now known as frank === frank is now known as frankTM [15:31] @GNARLY [15:31] @frankTM [15:37] EvilRoey, netstat -nat command is one [15:37] ok I suppose so, yes [15:38] EvilRoey, , not al your networked computers [15:39] just the one you're using [15:42] okkkkk [15:42] * okk [15:43] sorry, my keyboard's weird [15:58] Is there an on-screen keyboard in Kubuntu or is it only accessible on the lock screen? [16:03] BluesKaj: should I also try general linux channel? [16:08] sure [16:09] viewer|35529, look for virtual keyboard in the package manager, there are a few choices [16:29] What's the best way to configure a synaptics touchpad? I want no taps and no areas defined but one finger klick is left mouse button and two finger klick is right mouse button. [16:41] "No candidate version found for unetbootin" ...is there a new recommended tool for building a bootable Kubuntu install usb? The page linked from the release notes is timing out http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/installation.html [16:49] skomorokh: I prefer mkusb-nox (simple terminal version, but mkusb is there with a GUI if you want that). [16:50] By default it takes the whole stick, and makes it read-only so is good for a UEFI compatible installer. [16:50] Doesn't seem to be in the repos or snap :( [16:50] I use multibootusb if you don't need UEFI and want to use the drive for other things and want multiple Linux installers on one stick. http://multibootusb.org/ [16:51] Thanks, I'll give mkusb-nox a try, CLI + gets things right for UEFI the first time sounds like just the thing. [16:52] yes. agreed! Sorry can't recall if in main repos but if want most up-to-date can use ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mkusb/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [16:53] with stick installed, run "sudo mkusb-nox /path/to/iso.iso" and it has a nice interactive process from there. [16:59] Hi, has anyone else noticed icons in the panel sometimes showing the wrong state/not updating in 18.04? Seems like a bug. [18:03] Does Kubuntu have a virtual/on-screen keyboard installed by default? === kubuntu is now known as Guest59808 === EvilRoey is now known as BenEVILentRoey === BenEVILentRoey is now known as EvilRoey === sysadmin is now known as Jatto === jonas_ is now known as cyndn [20:40] hi [20:40] anyone on a nvidia laptop? [20:40] BluesKaj: ping [21:02] mattfly: I have one here; what's your question? [21:02] hey are you able to hibernate on ur laptop? [21:03] you have the nvidia-390 driver? [21:03] kubuntu bionic? [21:06] wait arent you the guy i just talked with not so long ago [21:10] I'm not a guy! so ..... [21:10] :-) [21:11] hmm, never have tried to hibernate [21:11] I basically never shut it down [21:11] Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.12.5 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS (Bionic Beaver) powered by Linux 4.15.0-20-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3399-3400/3800 MHz, RAM: 30959/32119 MB, Storage: 280/1144 GB, 273 procs, 643.12h up [21:11] my other little laptop hibernates perfectly but it is not nvidia [21:12] checking to see what driver I'm using [21:12] is it a laptop? [21:12] yes, both [21:12] oha [21:12] i have reported a bug [21:12] yup, 390 [21:13] ok, what's the bug number? [21:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/uswsusp/+bug/1770491 [21:13] Launchpad bug 1770491 in uswsusp (Ubuntu) "Hibernation doesnt work after installing nvidia-384(s2disk hangs)" [Undecided,New] [21:13] I'll try to test for you [21:13] whenever you can [21:13] try to see if you can hibernate [21:13] oh, 384 [21:13] no [21:13] thats the package name [21:13] nvidia-384 [21:13] ? [21:13] the driver is 390 [21:13] idk why they make this mess [21:14] that's pointlessly confusing [21:14] the ubuntu package nvidia-384 installs the driver named 390 [21:14] you can check it there [21:14] try to see if hibernation works there anyway, im having this isssue since the alpha [21:14] whenever you can [21:15] and if you have the same problem reported there, give some feedback or tell me at least [21:16] I can try this later today [21:16] right now I'm trying to test the newest plasma [21:17] oh 5.13? [21:17] have you added the backports ppas? [21:17] did you see this, mattfly? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/667833 [21:18] https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-5-bugfix-update-for-kubuntu-18-04-lts-testing-help-required/ [21:18] yes i posted that [21:18] ok [21:18] so there are eyes on this, good [21:18] not really [21:18] I always use backports, yes [21:18] nobody recognizes the bug so far [21:19] but we need to test the 5.12.5 release so that it can go into the point release in July [21:20] 5.13 is still beta [21:20] so 5.13 will never be part of kubuntu bionic? [21:21] mattfly: not as part of point releases [21:21] mattfly: not in the main archive. it is not an LTS release, and depends on a not LTS Qt version. we will very likely have in a PPA for bionic for those who want leap off the LTS train [21:22] 5.12 Plasma is LTS, so we want to keep that for our lts > lts people [21:22] alright [21:22] * valorie will leap into the future [21:23] https://i.imgur.com/zBm13Jf.png [21:24] * acheronuk hides [21:25] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/05/kde-plasma-5-13-features-upgrade [21:25] :-) [21:25] gosh, give me a minute dude, and I'll catch up! [21:26] yeah i saw that this morning [21:28] hmmm, they got it a bit wrong as we've not decided whether or not to use the Backports PPA for this upgrade [21:28] since they didn't ask..... [21:30] many things in these articles are guesses based what happened before [21:33] yup [21:37] @valorie, I would love to get 5.13 but I love stability. So I would like the idea to jump to 5.13.4 (or even 5.13.5) once it got out and stay with 5.12 until then. [21:42] even if we decide to put 5.13 in the main backports PPA, I think it unlikely will will push packages to it until at least the .2 or .3 bugfix release. keeping packages somewhere else for testing until then [21:49] @acheronuk, Ah! 😊 That is good to hear. Thank you for the info! === chencho9000 is now known as Lord_chencho [22:07] IMO something like "plasma-backports" PPA would make sense -- depending on the state of Qt in the archive I suppose [22:22] i just installed kubuntu 18.04 using the minimal install option and it is a bit too minimal for me. is there an easy way (i.e. without reinstalling) to install the full installation? [22:24] nice job kubuntu team! [22:41] evlich: sure, just install whatever you like from either the commandline or using Discover or Muon [22:41] as usual [22:42] oh, and if you want everything, just sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop [22:42] that will pick up everything you missed [22:43] or you can do that via muon/discover