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wxl@tsimonq2: should i bother bisecting that pcmanfm-qt bug? the one patch doesn't seem to have any major impact and all the other changes in debian are just packaging changes01:41
wxlthere are 47 commits since 0.12.0 so that's probably going to be a bit of a PITA01:47
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T40: Calamares needs per-package apport hook] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4001:55
-lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T40: Calamares needs per-package apport hook] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) 01:56
lubot2<tsimonq2> @wxl, Nah, I wouldn't bother.02:06
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T40: Calamares needs per-package apport hook] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T40#77402:30
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T40: Calamares needs per-package apport hook] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T40#77502:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T40: Calamares needs per-package apport hook] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T40#77702:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T31: Better IRC integration] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) 02:56
tsimonq2Ahh. Drat.02:56
wxli'm going through old bugs and really cleaning them up02:57
tsimonq2wxl: NICE.02:57
tsimonq2OK02:57
wxlit'd be nice to have all that stuff out of our hair while we focus on lxqt02:57
tsimonq2I just discovered a bug in Lugito, then I plan on monkeying with commit notifications.02:57
tsimonq2Right, agreed.02:57
wxli'll look at the apport hook too03:00
tsimonq2Thanks.03:00
wxlprobably easy enough to just copy from ubiquity03:01
tsimonq2Right.03:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T40: Calamares needs per-package apport hook] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T40#78003:06
tsimonq2wxl: When I'm done with what I'm doing right now, I'll import Calamares' Git repo into Phab so we can try out the review system there.03:13
wxli can't find the freaking package hook for ubiquity. there are hints of it but that's about it03:14
tsimonq2apt-file find?03:14
wxlOH it's in apport03:14
wxlduh03:15
tsimonq2What does that mean for this?03:15
wxli guess apport contains all the per package hooks03:15
wxlin addition to the code to run them03:15
tsimonq2Ahh.03:15
tsimonq2Cool then.03:15
wxlhah still can't find it XD03:19
tsimonq2C'moooooooon XD03:19
wxldon't worry i'll gegt to grepping through the code03:20
tsimonq2hehe03:20
wxlnope not to be found. wthhhhhhhhhhhhh03:23
tsimonq2wxl: uhhh, look at `/usr/share/apport/package-hooks/`03:31
tsimonq2So it is in independent packages.03:31
tsimonq2teward, wxl: Yay, response from IS. \o/04:05
wxlhttps://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/commit/?id=f417526980a8f115e94f226665265ace531831e804:06
tsimonq2waaaaaaaaaaty04:06
tsimonq2*waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat04:06
tsimonq2(lol)04:07
wxllast commit msg involving apport suggests that the code, if any, hides within the actual ubiquity code04:07
wxlok i give up. you figure out where to put the file and what to file it against and we'll go from there04:09
tsimonq2dude04:09
tsimonq2omg04:09
tsimonq2wxl: `apt-file find /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/` literally gives you the answer.04:09
tsimonq2We don't NEED to use Ubiquity as a base. ;)04:09
wxlyes, that's apport, but it's not in the code04:09
tsimonq2Huh?04:10
wxlin fact, i find zero package-hooks in apport04:10
tsimonq2hmm04:10
tsimonq2wxl: I'm almost done with this commit notification qoolness04:11
wxlat least something's getting done :)04:12
tsimonq2hehe04:12
tsimonq2wxl: Dude, but seriously, if I can get this working, we can say goodbye to GitHub.04:12
tsimonq2I mean, like the task code, it might be buggy at first.04:12
wxlyay04:13
tsimonq2But we can work it out.04:13
tsimonq2I mean, I'm literally pushing untested code here, but hey, Python Is Pseudocode. XD04:13
tsimonq2Plus, JSON is freaking easy, and I can test API calls in the interactive Python terminal.04:13
lyn||oriantsimonq2, I don't know why but I get confused by JSON04:14
tsimonq2¯\_(ツ)_/¯04:14
tsimonq2I did too at first.04:14
tsimonq2You get it after a while. :)04:14
wxlplaying with Mastodon honed my JSON skills04:15
tsimonq2^04:15
tsimonq2That'll do it.04:15
tsimonq2Playing with this honed mine.04:15
tsimonq2wxl: Duuude, we need a URL shortener.04:21
wxlyeah! 04:22
tsimonq2Hmm, Ubuntu has one...04:22
wxlbut we need a domain name first04:22
tsimonq2Right.04:22
tsimonq2wxl: Wanna hunt that real quick?04:23
wxlalready on it04:23
tsimonq2Cool cool.04:23
Unit193> yourls04:23
tsimonq2Hm?04:26
wxllu.gd is kind of pricey but nice04:32
wxland available04:32
tsimonq2How pricey?04:32
wxl~$175 at full retail04:32
lyn||orianwow04:32
tsimonq2Holy waaat04:32
wxlbetter than lu.ki which is about $1.2k04:33
tsimonq2O_O04:33
tsimonq2Also, let's see if this untested code for commit messages works.04:33
wxltoo bad, it's cute04:33
wxlhttps://github.com/amitt001/pygmy04:35
tsimonq2Here goes...04:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUGITO1c1cc3f828ca: Move the "who" code to a central location.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUGITO1c1cc3f828ca04:36
wxlhttps://github.com/YOURLS/YOURLS (Unit193's suggestion)04:36
wxlhttps://github.com/cydrobolt/polr04:36
tsimonq2wxl: What do you think about the commit notification? Like it? Don't like it? What should I tweak?04:36
wxlhttp://www.tighturl.com/project/p/tighturl/04:36
wxli think that's perfect04:36
tsimonq2\o/04:37
tsimonq2Cool.04:37
wxlOOH lub.sh is $43.0204:38
tsimonq2DOOOOEEEEET04:38
wxllubu.ly is $19504:39
wxlwhat's ubuntu's shortner?04:40
tsimonq2ubu.one04:40
tsimonq2(I THINK)04:40
wxlwell dennis kirkland has his name on it04:42
tsimonq2Dennis?04:42
wxldustin04:42
tsimonq2uhhhhh04:42
wxlyou know what i mean04:42
tsimonq2You mean Dustin?04:42
tsimonq2XD04:42
wxllugi.to is $15504:43
tsimonq2OMG YES04:43
tsimonq2YASSSSS04:43
wxlOMG NO WAIT04:43
wxllubun.to is $15504:43
tsimonq2uhhh04:43
wxlhah04:43
tsimonq2And btw04:43
tsimonq2I already HAVE lubunt.us04:43
lubot2<Schyken> You guys04:44
lubot2<Schyken> omg 😆04:44
wxlthis ain't no time for hen picking, chicken04:44
tsimonq2LOL04:44
lubot2<Schyken> XD04:44
tsimonq2wxl: But DUUUUDE I already have lubunt.us04:44
wxlso use that but jesus lubun.to is REALLY good. it sounds like it should04:44
wxli'd ask @Schyken but he couldn't even bother showing up to LFNW, so he's out04:45
tsimonq2OK lol04:45
tsimonq2ooooooh04:45
lubot2<Schyken> Savage04:45
lubot2<Schyken> lubun.to sounds derpy af tho04:45
wxlthen you must be saying lubuntu sounds derpy, because it's the same pronounciation04:46
lubot2<Schyken> @wxl, Mmm, idk, I wouldn't think it that way04:46
wxlloo-boon-too04:46
lubot2<Schyken> Right, but lubun.to would seem more like "lubun-toe"04:47
wxli have never pronounced "to" like "toe"04:47
lubot2<Schyken> URLs kinda do that when you pronounce them04:47
lubot2<Schyken> Like agar.io04:47
wxlin fact, i've never pronounced anything but "toe" like "toe"04:47
lubot2<Schyken> Right, but a lot of people will with a URL04:47
wxluhhhhhhhhh04:47
lyn||orianlike I haven't heard people pronounce lubuntu wierdly?04:48
wxl^^ that's understandable04:48
wxlbut in that sense, this is no different04:48
lubot2<Schyken> Neither have I, but I'm not talking about "lubuntu"04:48
lubot2<Schyken> I04:48
wxli'll make sure there's a big blue toe on the main page, with a circle and a line through it just for you04:49
lubot2<Schyken> *I'll let you guys do your thing and save the "I told you so's" for later ;P04:49
wxlcrack head.04:49
lubot2<Schyken> 😆04:49
lyn||orianThen again if you only know about something from reading about it online I find more differences in pronunication04:49
tsimonq2k so now here's the moment of truth to see if the bot will spam the channel...04:50
lubot2<Schyken> Ruh roh04:50
tsimonq2OH: the thing doesn't care about branch creation. XD04:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTRUNNERPACKAGINGed177854e0f0: Merge tag 'debian/0.12.0-6' into ubuntu/cosmic] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTRUNNERPACKAGINGed177854e0f004:52
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTRUNNERPACKAGINGaf8a974b0f44: Create a merge changelog entry for the previous commit.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTRUNNERPACKAGINGaf8a974b0f4404:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTRUNNERPACKAGING644c151b738d: Change the Vcs entries to be Lubuntu-specific.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTRUNNERPACKAGING644c151b738d04:56
tsimonq2Oh, that's super nice.04:56
tsimonq2wxl: Phab puts a delay between webhook triggers for multiple commits in one push ^^^04:56
wxlhow much of a delay, tsimonq2 ?04:57
wxldo we even know what flood limits are on freenode and/or being enforced by ubuntu bots?04:58
tsimonq2wxl: Seems like the end delay is 20 seconds.04:58
tsimonq2So we should be totally fine for anti-flooding.04:58
tsimonq2BUT: if you know you're going to be pushing a lot of commits, PLEASE disable the webhook. :)04:59
tsimonq2Oh shoot, midnight already! O_O05:00
wxltsimonq2: can we just use lubunt.us?05:02
tsimonq2wxl: Sure.05:02
wxl(by the way that's pronounced "loo-boon-tuss"05:02
Unit193You're forgetting to pronounce the 'dot'05:03
wxlUnit193: so is there any reason you think we should use yourls over anything else?05:03
wxlUnit193: naw, it's like "bit-lee"05:03
Unit193I haven't looked into other options, least not for a little while.05:03
Unit193ubottu.com uses that.05:03
wxlgood enough for me05:04
tsimonq2wxl: If you get things set up, I can point it anywhere, then we can just transfer it to Canonical. I got it for dirt cheap but I don't really care about it.05:04
tsimonq2Seriously, after tax it was like $1.2505:04
wxlawww daaaaaaaaaaaaaaang05:05
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTRUNNERPACKAGINGacdc44a86697: Upload to Cosmic.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTRUNNERPACKAGINGacdc44a8669705:16
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTPANELPACKAGING096685b8d8d3: Merge tag 'debian/0.12.0-9' into ubuntu/cosmic] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTPANELPACKAGING096685b8d8d305:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTPANELPACKAGING9aba3e785045: Upload to Cosmic.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTPANELPACKAGING9aba3e78504505:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTPANELPACKAGING2c417a6c311b: Add a merge changelog entry for the last commit.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTPANELPACKAGING2c417a6c311b05:45
tsimonq2Uhm: that's out of order.05:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTPANELPACKAGING35886724d2d8: Change the Vcs entries to be Lubuntu-specific.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTPANELPACKAGING35886724d2d805:45
tsimonq2Whatever. It's something.05:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLXQTPANELPACKAGING645eb2788116: Fix typo in the patch description of fix-memory-leaks.patch.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLXQTPANELPACKAGING645eb278811605:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T31: Better IRC integration] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T31#78105:47
-lugito1:#lubuntu-devel- [T31: Better IRC integration] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T31#78105:47
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T31: Better IRC integration] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T31#78405:48
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS65d7dd7a13ea: In the panel.conf file, turn on autoclearing of the search message; this makes…] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS65d7dd7a13ea05:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS3a900eeeed3b: Upload to Cosmic.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS3a900eeeed3b05:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS0bc9ae7fde58: debian/files, go away.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS0bc9ae7fde5805:57
tsimonq2I got nagged about that for days on end when I went on the Destination Linux podcast. :)05:57
tsimonq2wxl: Let's postpone the newsletter until tomorrow afternoon so we can work together on the details.05:58
tsimonq2wxl: Can you confirm bug 1733125?06:01
ubot93Bug 1733125 in openbox (Ubuntu) "desktop background does not refresh" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173312506:01
tsimonq2Bedtime. Night everyone!06:03
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-default-settings] lubuntu-lugito pushed 3 new commits to ubuntu/cosmic: https://git.io/vpjBF06:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic 65d7dd7 Simon Quigley: In the panel.conf file, turn on autoclearing of the search message; this makes it consistent with other desktop environments.06:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic 3a900ee Simon Quigley: Upload to Cosmic.06:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-default-settings/ubuntu/cosmic 0bc9ae7 Simon Quigley: debian/files, go away.06:25
tsimonq2Oh jeez. That's... going to clash.06:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T41: Test the Openbox SRU] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4116:34
lubot<tsimonq2> Gah, isn't done yet...16:34
lubot<tsimonq2> There we go.16:36
lubot<tsimonq2> This is a really easy way to help Lubuntu out!16:38
lubothttps://phab.lubuntu.me/T4116:38
lubothttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbox/+bug/177169616:38
lubotAll you have to do is test the update using the instructions Steve gave, and let us know if it works, using the testcase in the bug description.16:38
lubot<tsimonq2> The more people the better. :)16:39
wxl@tsimonq2: did you see OP's comments about py2/3 compatibility?16:39
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Yeah but that's 16.04.16:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Orrr16:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Wait16:39
wxlright16:40
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh jeez.16:40
lubot<tsimonq2> So this needs to be done in Openbox itself...16:40
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: Wanna throw me something to sponsor, using the same SRU bug description?16:41
wxlafaik all you need to do is use the second patch16:41
wxler maybe not16:41
wxlmaybe it's both16:42
wxlactually not exactly16:42
lubot<tsimonq2> I'd say, grab the upload from bionic-proposed, throw the patch on top, add the dep, and give to me.16:42
lubot<tsimonq2> Unless we're reaching different conclusions here.16:43
wxlwith the env line calling py3 specifically, it's only valid if py3 is available16:43
lubot<tsimonq2> Right well does Openbox dep on py3?16:43
wxlit SUGGESTS the default version of python16:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh jeez.16:44
wxlwhich appears to be 216:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Uhhhh16:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T37: Figure out a good solution for backing up Phab] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T37#79616:45
lubot<tsimonq2> Hmm16:45
wxlthere's got to be something wrong here, cuz 18.04 most certainly should have py216:45
wxli think16:46
wxlpython  2.7.15~rc1-116:47
wxlpython2.7       2.7.15~rc1-116:47
wxlpython3 3.6.5-316:48
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T35: Make GitHub Read-only] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T35#79716:48
lubot<tsimonq2> The "python" package will never go to py3 per upstream recommendation.16:49
lubot<tsimonq2> So if they suggest python, then they're suggesting py2, no exceptions.16:49
lubot<tsimonq2> @lugito, lyn||orian, @VikingRedwolf: See that Phab comment.16:50
wxlok that's freaking weird17:26
wxlthe manifest says python and python2.7 both should be on here but they're not17:26
lubot<tsimonq2> Ignore the manifest. We're talking about a pure Openbox session here.17:59
wxlwell xubuntu doesn't have this problem18:00
wxlthat said, i think we have a different issue18:00
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T7: Canonical hosting for lubuntu.me] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T7#79818:00
wxlalso the testcase for this SRU is actually lubuntu18:00
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T7: Canonical hosting for lubuntu.me] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T7#79918:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T38: Package LXQt 0.13.0] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T38#80018:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T7: Canonical hosting for lubuntu.me] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T7#80118:05
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T38: Package LXQt 0.13.0] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T38#80218:07
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T38: Package LXQt 0.13.0] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T38#80318:10
wxltsimonq2: well i have no idea why we don't have python2. xubuntu does. that said, it's considered deprecated, so maybe we don't care. but obamenu is not python3 compliant. so both of those patches are needed to fix it. that's undoubtably true is cosmic as well.18:15
tsimonq2wxl: Do you think it's worth it to SRU support?18:16
tsimonq2Could you chat with the SRU vanguard to ask them what thwey think.18:16
tsimonq2*they18:16
tsimonq2s/./?/18:16
wxlhonestly, i didn't want to work ont his one at all18:16
tsimonq2Why not? :P18:16
wxli don't really consider us the maintainers of openbox except where it affects lubuntu itself18:17
wxlso it's not worthless, but not valid from a lubuntu perspective, which is what i said in the comments before you started working on it18:17
wxlif you wanted this to work, though, you'd do one of two things:18:18
wxl 1. get python2 in bionic and leave it as is18:18
wxl 2. use the second patch, too18:19
wxlfrom what i hear, you probably want to do #118:21
wxl1109 < sarnold:#ubuntu-flavors> "python" should only ever refer to py218:21
wxl1109 < sarnold:#ubuntu-flavors> if you change that all kinds of things break18:21
lubot<tsimonq2> Unless your name is Arch. XD18:21
wxlpython2.7 and python are on cosmic18:22
lubot<tsimonq2> By recommends, aye?18:23
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T41: Test the Openbox SRU] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T41#80518:24
wxloh good it doesn't spam with edits18:25
wxl@VikingRedwolf are you in charge of coordinating folks that want to do l10n?18:27
wxlor rather how does an interested party get started?18:28
wxlhuh. software-properties-kde doesn't really have an easy way to add proposed from what i can tell18:29
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, Please give me a task to port that from KDE -> Qt18:30
wxlit's just a name change if anything18:31
wxlthere's no depends on suggests that are kde18:31
lubot<tsimonq2> oh18:31
lubot<tsimonq2> You sure?18:31
wxlyep18:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok18:32
lubot<tsimonq2> Well still give me a task. XD18:32
wxlhold up. it does depend on qapt-batch which depends on kio which depends on kinit18:35
wxlthere's libkf5* stuff but that's all good18:35
wxluh weird somehow vlc plugin stuff gets pulled in18:37
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, kf5 is KDE...18:38
lubot<tsimonq2> We should port to pure Qt18:38
lyn||oriantsimonq2, I will need to figure out how the new phab workflow is to comment it18:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, Not anymore, I'm afraid18:51
wxl@VikingRedwolf do you know who is?18:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T42: make pure Qt software-properties] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4218:55
wxl@VikingRedwolf and just to confirm you're only artwork, right? :)18:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T41: Test the Openbox SRU] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T41#81818:58
wxlwhat do you folks think about adding a few characters of comment? like maybe 70 chars?18:59
wxlit's happening19:12
wxl1210 < GitHub:#lxde> lxqt-sudo/master 12271dd Alf Gaida: Release 0.13.0: Update changelog19:12
lubot<tsimonq2> Yup.19:12
lubot<tsimonq2> Although agaida is being impatient. :P19:12
lyn||oriantsimonq2, where would I push the manual too in the new workflow?19:13
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @wxl, Damn right19:37
lubot<VikingRedwolf> And developer's work critic 😐19:37
lubot<tsimonq2> .__.19:37
lubot<tsimonq2> You ARE a developer, right wxl?19:37
* wxl shrugs19:38
lyn||orianok that is how you approve a merge on launchpad for some tiny little thing that fixed it19:39
lyn||orianawww no manual things yet from lugito ?19:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Not yet.19:40
lyn||orianok19:40
lubot<tsimonq2> Actually Lyn you pushed to your own repo19:41
lyn||orianI did then I tried to merge it19:42
lyn||orianand that is a confusing part of launchpad+git19:43
lyn||orianI can push directly to it I think19:44
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Workflow integration for security updates] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4319:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALec474b62043a: fix warnings and screenshot] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALec474b62043a19:53
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] lubuntu-lugito pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vhey419:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master ec474b6 Lyn: fix warnings and screenshot19:55
lubot<tsimonq2> lol19:55
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Workflow integration for security updates] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T43#82920:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Workflow integration for security updates] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T43#83020:06
tewardwxl: tsimonq2: so we *can* move forward with phab for mail.  I have to reply to a Canonical reply to the ticket, first, but we should be able to get Phab mail working.  I'll have to do some tests and such after I get home from work.  Apologies for not replying earlier, busy day at work20:14
wxlteward: all good thanks!20:14
tewardwxl: FYI: I'm taking down the Phabricator sendmail instance, unless you have any objections, so I can install Postfix.  I won't remove the configs.20:19
wxlteward: absolutely yes!20:20
tewardemails might jump into the abyss for a bit, in case you need to make a note anywhere about it20:21
tewardhow locked down should I go :P20:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Workflow integration for security updates] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T43#84620:22
wxl1s20:23
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] lubuntu-lugito merged master into HEAD: https://git.io/vheH920:25
wxlteward: ok in 5 minutes please have at it. let me know when you're done.20:26
tewardthe first phase is switching it to Postfix and cleaning up after.  Configuring phabricator inbound email requires me to be at home.  I had already started but am reverting now.20:27
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T34: Configure email commands] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T34#84720:28
wxlfeel free to take as long as you want but let me know when it's all good to go20:28
wxlif it's easier for you to just keep outgoing down while you're dealing with incoming, that's fine20:28
tewardwxl: FWIW, I'm registered on phab, teward20:29
tewardin case you need to ping me via that20:29
wxloh k20:29
tewardand outgoing should work regardless20:29
tewardswitching back to Postfix then going to try and make it send me mail heh20:29
tewardgive me 5 minutes20:29
tewardwxl: outgoing mail works, it looks like it's going over postfix now.20:33
wxlok20:33
tewardi need to do some poking to make everything look kind, but other than that it should be OK for outgoing mail20:33
wxlwill there be any additional downtime for outgoing later?20:33
tewarddoes the occasional 5 second 'restart postfix' count?20:33
wxlno20:33
tewardthen no there won't be major downtime20:33
tewardnot unless Postfix or Phab want to take a royal dump on me :P20:34
tewardthe likelihood of that is very very low, i'm likely to get struck by lighting ten times in a row long before that.20:34
wxladded you as a subscriber to the task btw20:35
tewardindeed.20:35
tewardthanks20:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T34: Configure email commands] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T34#84920:36
tewardwxl: who has access to the actual DO backend for this20:56
tewardSimon?20:56
tewardCanonical?20:56
wxlsimon20:56
tewardthen Simon needs to go poke some things.20:56
tewardactually wait20:58
tewardi typoed20:58
tewardhm20:58
tewardthere we go20:59
tewardwxl: mail server is up, let me make sure mail can be received and I'll go back to Canonical and have them set up the redirect21:00
wxlum21:01
wxlwhere does the mail go to? XD21:01
wxlteward: mx.canonical.com bounced back from phab@lubuntu.me at least :/21:03
wxlphab@tsimonq2.net bounced with no explanation21:04
tewardwxl: phab@tsimonq2.net shouldn't go anywhere heh21:05
tewardphab@lubuntu.me won't work until I have Canonical update their system21:06
wxlthe fact that phab@lubuntu.me made it to canonical is probably a good sign21:06
wxlor21:06
wxlnot21:06
tewardwxl: that's the 'standard' response I expect21:06
tewardsince if you do a DNS lookup on lubuntu.me and its MX record you get canonical's mail relay21:06
wxlright21:07
wxlthat still doesn't necessarily test if our mail server is working right for incoming21:07
tewardokay, so21:09
tewardgot further that time21:09
tewardand another typo xD21:09
tewardwxl: got it to hand off to the backend.  but now it's missing modules heh21:12
tewardwhoo!21:24
tewardwxl: i managed to get something handed off to phab@.  there may be a junk item somewhere that can be purged.21:24
tewardalso, php-mailparse means I don't have to fuss with pear xD21:24
tewardor pecl21:24
tewardCanonical runs the DNS for lubuntu.me correct?21:25
wxlcorrect, teward 21:26
tewardOK.  I'll have them add the MX record as well then for phab.lubuntu.me, since that's where the mail's going to redir to.21:27
tewardnot all mail relays treat the bare A as a valid MX address21:27
tewardoops broken mail client21:30
tewardwxl: once Canonical replies to the ticket saying they added the redirection at the mail relay, try sending to phab@lubuntu.me and we can make sure it works.21:31
teward(I'm still stuck at work >.<)21:31
wxlkk21:31
wxldeej has been on a loooooooooooong lunch21:31
wxl@tsimonq2: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/new-lubuntu/5997/321:54
tsimonq2wxl: Harumph. I disagree.22:10
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl, "Too many apps for a lean distro" subjextive22:13
lubot<tsimonq2> *subjective22:13
mpmctsimonq2: I kind of agree with that post, there is far too many apps for a default install, especially considering it's supposed to be light.22:14
mpmcBut yes, it's subjective.22:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Maybe Calibre isn't needed, but I would disagree with the rest.22:14
lubot<tsimonq2> You need a calculator and a web browser and LibreOffice etc.22:14
lubot<tsimonq2> I also disagree with us being super super ultralean22:15
lubot<tsimonq2> These are practical applications a lot of people consider essential to their workflow.22:15
mpmcOne thing that bugs me the most about Ubuntu is Libre office by default. I must be the only person that hasn't used any libre office apps.22:16
lubot<tsimonq2> We will have a remedy for that soon.22:16
lubot<tsimonq2> Anyway, ttfn, be back in three hours22:16

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