| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:38 |
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| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:49 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu, had a good week-end? | 06:57 |
| duflu | oSoMoN, yeah, not bad. You? | 06:58 |
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| oSoMoN | yeah, a productive and relaxing week-end | 07:04 |
| tjaalton | terminator has somewhat transparent borders, anyone seen that? | 07:09 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:42 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke | 07:48 |
| duflu | It's quiet here | 07:48 |
| * willcooke looks at the holiday calendar | 07:48 | |
| oSoMoN | good morning willcooke | 07:49 |
| willcooke | hey oSoMoN | 07:50 |
| oSoMoN | Pentecost might be a national holiday in several countries | 07:50 |
| oSoMoN | here it's not a national holiday, but it might be a local one depending on where you live | 07:50 |
| willcooke | Seems it is in France | 07:51 |
| willcooke | Da'cour | 07:51 |
| willcooke | Also big in Ivory Coast and Iceland | 07:52 |
| ackk | hi, after latest updates on bionic I'm seeing a weird behavior. every ~3s, i have a very short screen "freeze", which is mostly noticeable when moving the mouse or typing. I'm not sure how can I debug what's causing it. any ideas? | 08:03 |
| Trevinho | Morning | 08:04 |
| Laney | |O| | 08:04 |
| willcooke | ackk, anything in the logs? Are you running Wayland or X (probably doesnt matter). might be useful to have top open to see if something jumps to 100% CPU when it freezes | 08:06 |
| ackk | willcooke, noting relevant in dmesg, and no cpu jumps that I can see. I'm running Wayland | 08:07 |
| ackk | willcooke, (and a plain GNOME session, if that could matter) | 08:07 |
| ackk | willcooke, the freeze is very brief, the machine is usable but it's noticeable especially when you move the mouse | 08:07 |
| willcooke | ackk, shouldnt matter. Give X a go and see if it does the same thing? That might narrow it down at least. Syslog is likely to have more useful info that dmesg | 08:07 |
| ackk | willcooke, oh, you're right I see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Nmx4JHJrrY/ in syslog | 08:08 |
| ackk | willcooke, that's repeated. I wonder if system-monitor is the cause | 08:09 |
| ackk | oddly, it seems to work properly | 08:09 |
| willcooke | it probably restarts quick enough that you dont notice (apart from perhaps the freeze) | 08:09 |
| duflu | ackk, bionic right? I see the same problem on every machine I install cosmic on (so far) | 08:09 |
| ackk | duflu, yes bionic | 08:09 |
| ackk | willcooke, yes, it seems to be it | 08:09 |
| ackk | willcooke, I had seed a similar error in the past but I thought that was fixed? | 08:10 |
| ackk | (about trying to access deallocated objects) | 08:10 |
| ackk | sigh, it seemed they had fixed the plugin to work with bionic's gnome | 08:11 |
| ackk | willcooke, thanks for the tip, at least the issue doesn't show anymore | 08:12 |
| willcooke | ackk, np | 08:14 |
| Laney | Trevinho: hey, can you look into those comments on the gdm thing please? | 08:34 |
| Laney | also, how was your weekend in london? | 08:34 |
| Laney | the great weather continues | 08:34 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yes, I will. i noticed those last friday | 08:35 |
| Trevinho | Laney: great i was able to see many friends living here... I always love London, eventually :-) | 08:35 |
| Laney | \o/ | 08:35 |
| Laney | are you in the office? | 08:36 |
| Trevinho | not yet.. Heading in a bit. | 08:38 |
| Trevinho | what about you? | 08:39 |
| Laney | yeah was nice, didn't do anything special just hanging around here | 08:40 |
| Laney | sowed some more sweetcorn and courgettes/squash ;-) | 08:41 |
| Laney | gourdgeous | 08:41 |
| popey | willcooke: remember I mentioned full screen windows on 2nd monitor have no controls? Seems it's only firefox. Can you reproduce? | 08:46 |
| popey | (perhaps this new funky CSD stuff in FF60) | 08:47 |
| willcooke | popey, testing | 08:51 |
| willcooke | works | 08:51 |
| popey | sorry, I said "full screen" I mean "maximised" | 08:51 |
| willcooke | at least I think it does | 08:51 |
| willcooke | popey, https://imgur.com/a/btYlgbP | 08:53 |
| popey | huh. I must have some reminant of unity kicking around, as you suggested. I still have my window controls on the left for example. | 08:54 |
| willcooke | yeah I think it's a Unity hangover | 08:54 |
| willcooke | but no idea what | 08:54 |
| popey | hm. is there a gnome shell dconf reset magic thing? | 08:54 |
| xnox | unity-default-settings or some such, maybe touch default settings? | 08:55 |
| willcooke | morning xnox | 08:56 |
| popey | willcooke: some judicious file removal and dconf resets fixed it, thanks! | 09:19 |
| willcooke | popey, woot! | 09:22 |
| popey | Where should I filed bugs which affect only the snap of firefox and not the deb? | 10:25 |
| xnox | willcooke, can seeded-snaps knowledgeable people review branches attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1767896 ? looks like seeded snaps missing a "dependency" | 10:28 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1767896 in OEM Priority Project "Live 18.04 with broken seed causes snapd high CPU usage" [Critical,Confirmed] | 10:28 |
| Laney | xnox: you can merge those | 10:30 |
| xnox | Laney, ok. but i don't quite understand it. I thought that there are no dependencies between snaps... and how would existing installs gain the dep? | 10:37 |
| xnox | do we need to respin desktop isos? | 10:37 |
| xnox | are there any other missing deps? | 10:37 |
| Laney | xnox: I think comment 13 and 15 answer your questions | 10:38 |
| * xnox rereads | 10:38 | |
| xnox | ah, thanks | 10:39 |
| Laney | :> | 10:43 |
| duflu | xnox, watching the logs in a cosmic live session I got the impression that was causing frequent and short shell freezes/stutter. Would that be right? | 10:49 |
| duflu | Or Laney ^ | 10:49 |
| Laney | If it's as CPU intensive as it says, could be... | 10:50 |
| Laney | see if it stops when that missing snap gets installed? | 10:50 |
| duflu | Yeah. Also I need to log off | 10:50 |
| duflu | Night | 10:50 |
| oSoMoN | popey, re firefox snap bugs (sorry I missed the question): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi#h=dupes%7CFirefox | 11:38 |
| popey | ok | 11:38 |
| popey | ta | 11:38 |
| oSoMoN | yw | 11:38 |
| popey | oSoMoN: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1463091 | 11:45 |
| popey | :) | 11:45 |
| ubot5 | Mozilla bug 1463091 in Untriaged "snap links do not work in the firefox snap" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 11:45 |
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| oSoMoN | popey, thanks | 12:02 |
| === pstolowski|lunch is now known as pstolowski | ||
| Laney | GunnarHj: I'm going to upload your dh-translations to cosmic now, thanks for that | 13:08 |
| Laney | suggest watching things over the next little while before you decide on SRUing anything? | 13:08 |
| GunnarHj_ | Laney: Yay! Right, I'll coordinate with jbicha about a possible SRU. | 13:32 |
| Laney | GunnarHj_: Why weren't icons and keywords stripped before? | 13:34 |
| Laney | I hope there's not some place that isn't using a library to read those... | 13:34 |
| GunnarHj_ | Laney: No idea to be honest. Assuming it was a oversight. | 13:37 |
| Laney | guess we'll find out :-) | 13:37 |
| Laney | I personally probably wouldn't try to SRU that bit | 13:37 |
| Laney | it is up | 13:38 |
| GunnarHj_ | Laney: We have stripped those for g-c-c during a few months now (via d/rules), and I haven't heard about any issues. | 13:38 |
| Laney | OK, but SRUs are about minimising risk and this seems to not minimise it | 13:39 |
| GunnarHj_ | Laney: Indeed. That part is indeed not important enough for SRUing. | 13:39 |
| Laney | Anyways, lets see how it goes in cosmic for a bit | 13:40 |
| Laney | merci beaucoup! | 13:40 |
| GunnarHj_ | Laney: Thank you for providing guidance and sponsorship! | 13:40 |
| xnox | Laney, so we did not get to the bottom of what creates the serial-getty@ wants symlink, have we? | 13:59 |
| xnox | Laney, should I email foundations-crew & server-crew to figure it out? | 14:00 |
| tseliot | Laney: hi, do you know if there is a recommended way to SRU a fix for pulseaudio (in bionic)? Shall I commit my changes in the git branch for cosmic first? | 14:08 |
| tseliot | xnox: I might need to backport some fixes for logind too about this problem, when I have the time (it should be about 3 commits) https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/8393 | 14:11 |
| ubot5-ng | systemd bug 8393 in systemd "DRM devices opened by logind stay referenced indefinitely by PID 1" (comments: 2) [Closed] | 14:11 |
| ubot5 | bug 8393 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "RTF documents not associated to OOO" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8393 | 14:11 |
| xnox | tseliot, bug report with SRU template and commit ids from upstream repo to backport; and I can handle an sru backport. | 14:26 |
| tseliot | xnox: great, I'll do that. Thanks | 14:27 |
| Laney | xnox: nope - you can do if you like, I was hoping stgraber would turn up but maybe he was off | 14:33 |
| Laney | tseliot: I'm not familiar with pulseaudio in particular, but the bug should be fixed in cosmic too, yeah | 14:33 |
| tseliot | Laney: ok, I'll try to do as the previous uploaders did, and hope for the best. Thanks | 14:34 |
| Laney | tseliot: if there's not a branch, making one for bionic wouldn't be a bad idea | 14:35 |
| Laney | and then update that in debian/control | 14:35 |
| tseliot | Laney: they have an ubuntu-bionic branch https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/pulseaudio/log/?h=ubuntu-bionic | 14:37 |
| Laney | sweet | 14:37 |
| tseliot | I think I'll use the "ubuntu" branch first, for cosmic, and then I'll use "ubuntu-bionic" for the SRU | 14:37 |
| Laney | makes sense | 14:38 |
| tseliot | finally fixing LP: #405294 would save us a lot of a pain | 14:38 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 405294 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "A2DP Bluetooth audio skips terribly ["Skipping NNN us (= MMM bytes) in audio stream"]" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405294 | 14:38 |
| Laney | ♥ | 14:44 |
| tseliot | :) | 14:44 |
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| oSoMoN | have a good evening everyone! | 16:43 |
| GunnarHj_ | sil2100: Thanks for taking on the missing codeset bug. Then I don't need dev hunting for that one. :) | 17:16 |
| GunnarHj_ | Laney: I got a build fail msg about pkgbinarymangler. Did you request a rebuild? | 17:24 |
| Laney | GunnarHj_: Yeah looks like the tests aren't 100% great | 17:25 |
| GunnarHj_ | Laney: I see. Success now anyway. | 17:25 |
| willcooke | night all | 19:46 |
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